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  • In Mexico City, familiar subcultures like punk and emo transform into warring urban tribes. Hailey goes to all corners of the city to find out why these unique identities have taken hold.
    This episode of States of Undress originally aired on VICE TV in 2017.
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  • @refinery29
    @refinery29  Před 5 měsíci +49

    WATCH NEXT: Trans Women’s Impact on Thai Fashion - czcams.com/video/pJiRT8WWqNg/video.html

    • @CleopatraPhilopator
      @CleopatraPhilopator Před 5 měsíci

      Hey 👋 Hello refinery29, this was a GREAT documentary! Could you guys please put in the description box the date this was recorded? 😊🙏

    • @carlosgil9886
      @carlosgil9886 Před 4 měsíci

      Just to add that this documentary was made around 2016? Couse that president end functions in 2018

    • @demetrixxxable
      @demetrixxxable Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ok.. mi raza, este video tiene DATOS VIEJOS E IRRELEVANTES. Pues miren la fecha en que se subió? I hope is not from that woman who appears… talking on this video!😮

    • @rec.thecritic
      @rec.thecritic Před 4 měsíci

      😂😂😂 is not murray is mirray my king 😂😂😂it sounded horrible

    • @user-eu7md1ew9s
      @user-eu7md1ew9s Před 4 měsíci

      Yuck😂 no more 🌈

  • @icohuom4145
    @icohuom4145 Před 2 měsíci +77

    As an Anthropologist, I found this video truly enlightening. I admit I was about to stop watching when she mentioned Merecedes Benz fashion week and Mexico’s former first lady and her daughters, I thought I was just another silly video. I was brushing my teeth and that was the reason why I didn’t stop the video, then minute after minute it revealed an amazing and accurate description of Mexico City’s urban tribes. Well done. If one day Mexico collapses, as it happened to some of its prehispanic societies, this video would be a true archeological treasure, it would save art historians many years of work, and would expose a real vision of the social complexities of the Mexican society back in 2017.

  • @Clwr_Romeo
    @Clwr_Romeo Před 5 měsíci +816

    Hailey is hands down one of the best hosts for shows like this she really talks to everyone she doesn't act like shes in a zoo. I hope she gets to continue hosting shows like this cause she is Amazing.

    • @ellitestar
      @ellitestar Před 5 měsíci +18

      I agree, she doesn't patronize her interviewees.
      I just made up a new word I think?

    • @casaprofunda_
      @casaprofunda_ Před 5 měsíci

      absolutely stretch. basic white girl who can't even speak the language prancing around. like at least get someone who can speak spanish. don't know why i keep getting these unrefinery video recommended every few months with this chick.

    • @xenostim
      @xenostim Před 5 měsíci +12

      agreed. and no, you didn't invent the word interviewee 😁@@ellitestar

    • @TomSarracino
      @TomSarracino Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ya! Amazing ! 🎉

    • @estelacruz1016
      @estelacruz1016 Před 5 měsíci

      Agree

  • @roybeauregard
    @roybeauregard Před 5 měsíci +592

    As a mexican living in the mexico city metropolitan area, this documentary did make a lot of justice on showcasing capitalist mexican urban culture .It's very accurate to my own experiences seeing social groups and minorities interacting through the lens of my upper middle/working class upbringing. Really like how they cared to report on THE actual culture. Good job!

    • @wetguavass
      @wetguavass Před 4 měsíci +1

      I don't think so

    • @stevezy4772
      @stevezy4772 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Mamon

    • @arislopes1924
      @arislopes1924 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also she lied and gave Mis information by calling CDM the largest metro area in the western hemisphere when clearly São Paulo takes that title by 1 million residents

    • @wetguavass
      @wetguavass Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@arislopes1924 CDMX is second largest or largest in the world, jus depends on how you count it. It's between Tokyo and CDMX.

    • @arislopes1924
      @arislopes1924 Před 3 měsíci

      @@wetguavass in that case is 3rd then since São Paulo is the largest urban area in the Americas, surpassing Mexico City by 1 million residents and having a much larger urban sprawl that extends all the way to port city of santos in the coast making it even a coastal city in a way

  • @lucemoon4370
    @lucemoon4370 Před 5 měsíci +368

    As a former “emo” back in 2009, it’s actually amazing to see these kids keeping the style / music alive.

    • @sweetiepie4328
      @sweetiepie4328 Před 5 měsíci +24

      I was in Mexico in the 1998.... they been on this style even back then. Very reggae goth almost

    • @msergio0293
      @msergio0293 Před 5 měsíci +8

      It's a dead style but whatever

    • @REAL-NANO
      @REAL-NANO Před 4 měsíci +7

      This is from 2016.

    • @ChelseySmith-gg9rb
      @ChelseySmith-gg9rb Před 4 měsíci +16

      I’m 30 and still am lmao 🤣 I’m former nothing besides being a mix between a goth, emo and hippy and have been since I was younger. It’s a lifestyle and not something we just get out of if you enjoy the styles and scene. That’s just me though. I hate going by labels because it depends on my mood that determines what I wear or what I wanna be that day.

    • @WhiteWolfos
      @WhiteWolfos Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@ChelseySmith-gg9rb you're not the only one! There's alot of ppl ik still rocking the styles

  • @tracyspacey6071
    @tracyspacey6071 Před 5 měsíci +512

    I’ve been to Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Madrid, New York, Miami, L.A., Buenos Aires and Mexico City. And Mexico Coty fashion is so unique they really push style and art to the next level.

    • @franciscovilcheavila960
      @franciscovilcheavila960 Před 5 měsíci

      @@3x157 Si, por ejemplo los estadounidenses solo mencionan a los cholos y su ropa cuando se refieren a los mexicanos, debe ser complicado cuando tienen esa vision de ustedes.

    • @jahwobble5214
      @jahwobble5214 Před 5 měsíci +8

      have you been to London??

    • @lorihoop3831
      @lorihoop3831 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I need to know what top she has on in the beginning of the video. I love it.

    • @YusefMontiel
      @YusefMontiel Před 5 měsíci

      😂ok

    • @earthn1447
      @earthn1447 Před 5 měsíci +18

      I too have explored many major cities and lived in a few - I have never experienced the beauty, complexity and incredible array of creativity as I saw in Mexico City.

  • @keynotepablo3524
    @keynotepablo3524 Před 4 měsíci +235

    im living in mexico city (formerly in socal) and i can easily say without a doubt, mexico city has some of the most unique and bold fashion i've ever seen in my life. people down here are SO unafraid to wear literally whatever. brands don't matter, replicas don't matter, nobody gives a shit. people are just freely themselves, and i mean REALLY themselves. the confidence is unrivaled.
    PS.. this video was uploaded in 2017.. i only wish they could do a new video on the current state of fashion in mexico city in 2024. it's insane.

    • @Evalunamf
      @Evalunamf Před 4 měsíci

      zocalo

    • @user-qj4nq6ky9c
      @user-qj4nq6ky9c Před 4 měsíci

      I was in Mexico 1972. It was alright then. Just saying

    • @keynotepablo3524
      @keynotepablo3524 Před 4 měsíci +14

      @@user-qj4nq6ky9c newsflash buddy, it's 2024, FIFTY years later. the state of fashion is not even REMOTELY close to what it was in the 70s. you're living on the moon if you think it's the same.

    • @sky-pv7ff
      @sky-pv7ff Před 3 měsíci

      They are broken people. Except the office worker group.

    • @septimaserpent
      @septimaserpent Před 3 měsíci

      Can You Lmk What You Prefer In Mexico City Vs. What You Prefer In SoCal? I Live In La Habra (If You Know Where That Is Lol) & I Honestly Despise It Here. Been Planning A Move To Eugene, OR But Mexico City Sounds Dope & Wanna Hear A Firsthand Account From Someone Who Has Lived Over Here & Moved There.​@@keynotepablo3524

  • @gog9o9magog
    @gog9o9magog Před 5 měsíci +140

    you gotta check out the mexican goth scene. mexican goths are perfect, pre-mall goth 80s style goths. its like i returned to highschool. at their events they even play my teenage playlist. warms my cold dead heart

    • @alexsmart5452
      @alexsmart5452 Před 4 měsíci +10

      I been in the Goth/Industrial scene since 84'. Im in LA/Hollywood and the Mexican Goth scene both here in LA and in Mexico is well loved. Their love of Robert Smith and Morrissey has always been a gateway drug to conversation when Ive visited Mexico and run into Goths there.

    • @frankyymilkyy9001
      @frankyymilkyy9001 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@alexsmart5452 So you just come and say you love Smith/Morrissey and they are like "you're welcooome! and it's not cringey at all to start conversations like that"

    • @jahbrony3650
      @jahbrony3650 Před 2 měsíci

      @@frankyymilkyy9001 lol!

  • @jesusserrano8769
    @jesusserrano8769 Před 5 měsíci +56

    as a mexican who lives in the far north, i feel astonished everytime i go to mexico city, it is like another country, full of culture

  • @SmokeyChipOatley
    @SmokeyChipOatley Před 4 měsíci +111

    I know this is an older documentary but it’s still fantastic regardless. Hailey did a great job not only connecting with but understanding the people living Mexico’s truth and not this fictionalized version perpetuated by US media and politicians. No Mexico isn’t perfect. But it has a lot more in the form of beauty and culture than many people outside its borders would give it credit for.

  • @tracyaskew1651
    @tracyaskew1651 Před 5 měsíci +191

    I'm American from the States and was into the Punk scene in my high school days back in Washington, DC. Back then, I stood out being black in what was mostly the White kids in the scene at the time. My black friends just didn't understand me or why. But, I didn't really care one bit. I'm 58 now, but it was like a safe community for me at the time. My parents didn't get it but accepted it and my wild friends. They loved her. I moved to Mexico a few years ago and had no idea this was so heavy here. This whole program was for me, educational and so well done. You have a natural charisma that makes people open up to you. Keep up the good work!

    • @duanegoggins873
      @duanegoggins873 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Know what you are talking about. As a 59 y.o. Black man, I went through the same thing in the early 80's being into punk and other alternative scenes.

    • @gilwood7530
      @gilwood7530 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I was just a misfit white kid , late 70s and early 80s in school , loved the whole scene ...everyone got along at punk shows ..i guess I was still a misfit but by my own choice ...it really made my teen years memorable

    • @joeyj6808
      @joeyj6808 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Best kept secret: the punk scene has always been mellow and accepting of weirdos like me. Don't tell anybody!

    • @johannwolf1
      @johannwolf1 Před měsícem

      @@duanegoggins873 we are the same age... this is all derivative. I want to hear something new musically, see something new in fashion. I want to bring beauty back... it's all gotten so pathetic and ugly.

  • @jairortega3877
    @jairortega3877 Před 5 měsíci +136

    I don't think I've ever saw a documentary that portrays this well Mexican fashion and culture, well done! Also the host did such an amazing job

  • @VanessaSalmeron5
    @VanessaSalmeron5 Před 5 měsíci +172

    Wow I'm from México and you have done very good research, it's incredible that you have visited those places which many people are afraid of.
    Thanks for showing our reality without judgment.

  • @geryg7030
    @geryg7030 Před 5 měsíci +131

    This was beautifully done. Hailey is a complete professional and she has an authenticity that, clearly, anyone from any background recognizes and responds well to. Also, thank you to all who worked on this project for showing the many, many dimensions and layers that Mexico is comprised of- even in the segue music, you guys didn’t just use the “typical Mexican” music that most non-Mexican media tends to generically resort to.
    A job well done. Even my mom, who is much more versed with our culture than I am, was drawn into this video as I watched and also gained new perspectives.
    Thank you 🙏🏽🙌🏽

    • @nokateno
      @nokateno Před 4 měsíci

      She really works that concerned expression.

  • @user-lh8my2hk1z
    @user-lh8my2hk1z Před 5 měsíci +38

    The lack of a condescending lense through all of it made it real but significantly vibrant and immersive, showing us a deep view of a contemporary Mexico City when majority of times international media coverage lacks about the layers of mexican society beyond simple stereotypes

  • @nayibdelarosa510
    @nayibdelarosa510 Před 5 měsíci +267

    really well produced, from a Mexican, this piece was fun and respectful.

    • @alejandromoreno5056
      @alejandromoreno5056 Před 5 měsíci +1

      why would it not be respectful?

    • @RipPimpCScrewstonTX
      @RipPimpCScrewstonTX Před 5 měsíci +4

      "Fun & respectful" you sound Mexican American. Southern part of the west coast to be exact 😅

    • @lindascott2008
      @lindascott2008 Před 5 měsíci +22

      @@alejandromoreno5056 Because it is highly likely that this documentary could have been looking at people's choices as bizarre oddities, as outsiders looking in, and the person interviewing could have had a cynical or sarcastic tone in her voice, but didn't, which would not have been respectful. And they had the respect to really look at the positive reason for the various "tribes" and how the unity among the tribe members and their mutual support of each other creates a positive purpose in that city. I would not have seen that if it were not pointed out. I found it incredibly respectful when it was highly possible to not be.

    • @nicolasmaximus2286
      @nicolasmaximus2286 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Because the wrong person could make it look bad & disrespectful!!! How about old are you☝️?
      Out of respect I won’t say it.🎬

    • @derek5839
      @derek5839 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@RipPimpCScrewstonTX does the tx from your name not mean Texas?

  • @kocholawis1851
    @kocholawis1851 Před 5 měsíci +35

    As a Mexican i can say that that part about the impunity of the rich is true. 2 People i know where killed by rich drunken teenage drivers, whithout any consecuences. One of them was a girl under 12 years old.

  • @betsymelinacortezalonso4834
    @betsymelinacortezalonso4834 Před 8 měsíci +101

    Thank you Refinery29 for keep posting all of Vice "States of Undress" episodes!

  • @fuckingtruth9328
    @fuckingtruth9328 Před 5 měsíci +59

    haley gates is absolutely fenomenal on these series!

  • @catAfaable
    @catAfaable Před 8 měsíci +735

    Is this old?. Lopez Obrador has been the president since 2018 , not Peña Nieto

    • @DrawLatinFashion
      @DrawLatinFashion Před 8 měsíci +292

      This must be very old, since Fashion Week Mexico hasn’t been held in Mexico City since the pandemic. Edit: This is from 2016 (that’s when the 10th anniversary of MBFWMx was)

    • @dinodinosaur2930
      @dinodinosaur2930 Před 8 měsíci +117

      @@DrawLatinFashion This is 8 years old

    • @estrelladamian9534
      @estrelladamian9534 Před 8 měsíci +72

      I don’t think it matters how old this is, still a way of life for many people living in Mexico still 😢

    • @sararichardson737
      @sararichardson737 Před 6 měsíci +57

      @@dinodinosaur2930YEAH and the peso has recovered since then

    • @sxt4447
      @sxt4447 Před 6 měsíci +40

      They reposted the series but it’s was originally done in the early 2010s

  • @lewizzrocks
    @lewizzrocks Před 5 měsíci +54

    Mexico City is absolutely a top 3 metro city in terms of culture, Beauty and history.

    • @0000song0000
      @0000song0000 Před 3 měsíci +1

      but damn air pollution
      Every time i go there's a chilango proudly talking about "carrying a bag of smog" when traveling to other cities.
      There's just too many cars,busses, trailers, motorcycles, bycicles, and crossing a street becomes quite stressful 😅

  • @dianakim6240
    @dianakim6240 Před 5 měsíci +118

    This country full of subcultures which is amazing, absolutely love it,

    • @danieldelrancho5749
      @danieldelrancho5749 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Honestly is not the whole country, it’s mainly Mexico City, more likely you won’t see that anywhere else in the country

    • @DavidRuiz-wv5mp
      @DavidRuiz-wv5mp Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@danieldelrancho5749 ciudad juares está lleno de pachucos y en otros estados también que tú no conozcas otros lugares de mexico es otra cosa

    • @MagieUrisha
      @MagieUrisha Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@danieldelrancho5749 In the center of every city there's a subculture. Even at the more conservative ones (Nuevo León for ex.) there's a counterpart (a lot of LGBT+ communities are hosted there, from Drag Queens to furries).

    • @danieldelrancho5749
      @danieldelrancho5749 Před 5 měsíci

      @@DavidRuiz-wv5mp eh visitado Juárez varias veces y nunca eh visto ni un pachucho, posiblemente si hay varios pero solo se visten así los domingos. De eso no hablo sino de los rockeros de la ciudad de México qe para ellos si es un estilo de vida

    • @danieldelrancho5749
      @danieldelrancho5749 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MagieUrisha the lgbtq group or community isn’t a subculture my dude

  • @staceytroffer8287
    @staceytroffer8287 Před 4 měsíci +18

    You have the sweetest disposition, you get along with anyone and everybody, no one feels threatened by your style of communication, which is incredible. Really a pleasure to watch. And very interesting topics.

  • @angel2641
    @angel2641 Před 5 měsíci +176

    Classism is huge in Mexico due its history of colonialism.

    • @TheSunship777
      @TheSunship777 Před 5 měsíci

      colonialism produced another form of Mexican culture as seen in its baroque

    • @anaquintero9841
      @anaquintero9841 Před 5 měsíci +8

      No éramos colonia, éramos provincia.

    • @javieresparbe5582
      @javieresparbe5582 Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@anaquintero9841
      😂

    • @jammart85
      @jammart85 Před 5 měsíci +9

      el clasismo, inclusive en la pasarela esa moda ni siquiera es accesible si no es más para que los riquillos lo vean como un espectáculo.

    • @andros1000
      @andros1000 Před 5 měsíci +8

      True. All this dysfunctionality has colonial roots, but Mexico has had more than 200 years to fix it. It is its own baby, now. It seems it’s only gotten worse in some ways.

  • @karinaalvear2229
    @karinaalvear2229 Před 5 měsíci +55

    Thank you for showing the many realities of mexico, the many worlds that exist within... the abstract beauty of my home country. thank you

  • @carlitoxb110
    @carlitoxb110 Před 5 měsíci +26

    Mexican city is one of the most vibrant city in all of the American continent

    • @hihenry22
      @hihenry22 Před 17 dny +1

      i would say in the world.

  • @Livenow11484
    @Livenow11484 Před 5 měsíci +34

    It’s cool to see that Mexico has preserved all these subcultures something that hasn’t been seen in the US for over a decade. It’s too bad that they don’t all band together against the government though.

    • @MarkPemble
      @MarkPemble Před 5 měsíci +4

      Oh, believe me, pretty much all of this culture is still seen here in the States - but on a smaller level.

    • @pucknhusker9426
      @pucknhusker9426 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Well said my man.
      If the kids are united they will never be divided ✌

    • @ericktellez7632
      @ericktellez7632 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Rise against what government? Our current government is the most popular government Mexico has had since the 1940s, Amlo has the second or third highest approval rating in the world if you count Putin or not, why would people band towards a government almost 70% approve of?

    • @cosmicmuch2024
      @cosmicmuch2024 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@ericktellez7632 You're absolutely right. It's currently the most popular government in Mexico, I believe top 2 in the world. On the contrary, it's a shame people in the US don't get together to do something on what currently going on.

    • @yaddahaysmarmalite4059
      @yaddahaysmarmalite4059 Před 4 měsíci

      @@cosmicmuch2024 we got trump up here mucking things up. and the democrats don't see the issues in the right way to be effective in doing anything about it. we've got stupid people on both sides of the political divide.

  • @JohnnygSawyer
    @JohnnygSawyer Před 5 měsíci +46

    What an interesting perspective into Mexican Culture. Back in my day (80's) in Los Angeles, all the genres hung out together. You could have metalheads, punks and goths in your crew. It's sad that it's so divided in Mexico.
    Haley was phenomenal, she didn't act any different around all the subcultures. The Cholos looked like LA Crips. Those lowrider bikes are awesome! Bravo ❣️

    • @thearcanamodernau8130
      @thearcanamodernau8130 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Creo que es porque los movimientos se formaron de manera muy distinta en ambos países, a pesar de que técnicamente tienen el mismo nombre. La historia de la Ciudad de Mexico ha sido muy complicada y llena de conflicto desde su inicio. Lógico de la extensión urbana más grande de latinoamerica.

  • @ho2cultcha
    @ho2cultcha Před 4 měsíci +9

    Many years ago, i was introduced to the 'freson' side of mexico. I was hitch hiking to Acapulco on my 25th bday and got picked up by this Syrian guy in a mercedes convertible. We spent the next 2 months bopping around mexico - flying back and forth to Mexico City for parties etc... The first thing that blew my mind was when there was a traffic jam because they were blasting to expand the road near Acapulco. Traffic was backed up for miles! My friend pulled to the side of the traffic and gunned it. When cops stopped him a few times, he swore at them and laid on the horn until they let him thru. They stopped the blasting until we were through. I was mortified, but that was just the introduction. I met a lot of singing legends, movie stars - Mexican and American, and tripped on the best acid ever while being towed on an innertube by a fast little boat. I'm tripping my balls off and there are dolphins jumping around me. One of these days, i'll write about it more.

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- Před 4 měsíci +15

    That bicycle interview, that is so refreshing. Not many go on excursions like this even on a good weather day especially for an active conversation.

  • @Ch3rryT3a
    @Ch3rryT3a Před 8 měsíci +38

    Interesting subject matter, especially the juxtaposition between the rich and poor right next to eachother.

  • @TheLindenbaum
    @TheLindenbaum Před 5 měsíci +23

    I have not finished watching this, but I need to say that Hailey is wonderfully brave and obviously very well connected to herself and to it all. Thank you for so much valid information!

  • @earthn1447
    @earthn1447 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I woke up to the amazing uniqueness of the difference cultures in Mexico when visiting an exhibit of nativity scenes at the community center in Coyoican - I recognized many of the different styles and materials but hadn’t realized they had grown out of distinct groups of people.
    It was truest an experience seeing the nativity created from stoneware, to 2-D metal, woven from straw, beading and so many other traditions. I could spend years in Mexico City exploring the arts - and the magnificent archeological museum was mind blowing.

  • @terrijdavis1953
    @terrijdavis1953 Před 5 měsíci +40

    This is SUCH a great piece and hosted beautifully. I really enjoyed this❤

  • @NatalieSelene
    @NatalieSelene Před 4 měsíci +8

    I grew up in the US with punks and goths in the 90s and emos after Y2K. Honestly, I cannot imagine those 3 groups not getting along. Here in the states, they are all a small divergence from the exact same thing.

    • @twezi
      @twezi Před 3 měsíci

      its because its about the tribal aestheticism and not about what the things actually mean. dude was right when he said "they hate us because we are hardcore" because they actually live as themselves 24/7. punks in the US dont stop being punk to go to their factory jobs.

  • @japanish14
    @japanish14 Před 8 měsíci +51

    Being Mexican but Living in Canada since I was 6, I love seeing this part of my culture which I will never understand or even get to really see. Thankyou for spreading the wonders of Mexico to the world.

    • @GhostdanceCalaveras
      @GhostdanceCalaveras Před 5 měsíci +3

      prayers that you are able to escape Canada

    • @Garbeaux.
      @Garbeaux. Před 3 měsíci

      Your culture is a mix of Mexican *and* Canadian since you’re Mexican but grew up and live in Canada.

  • @dizen4391
    @dizen4391 Před 5 měsíci +15

    This documental means to be one of the better ever made from all clothing style in at least Mexico City, indeed because involve a little of the bigger clothing style and the deep history about what's made and relate to who. Awesome work, I've could say this need to be saved in a national museum. Different perspectives are what made us "to be". 11/10!

  • @EstoNoesta-oj2lk
    @EstoNoesta-oj2lk Před 4 měsíci +10

    I just wanna say that you did a great job with this episode. As a Mexican I loved it and wanna thank you for you professionalism. Was great to see the effort to picture a lot of kind of tribes

  • @talltom1129
    @talltom1129 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Haley,I love your style. Your presentation is totally unpretentious, and feels so real. This is the 3rd of your videos i watched today, and I subscribed so I can see the rest! For the record, I'm a 65 year old white man, and have lived with the punk mindset since the eighties.

  • @thearcanamodernau8130
    @thearcanamodernau8130 Před 4 měsíci +5

    As a Mexican is amazing how distant I feel from these urban subcultures even though I live in a city less than a hundred kilometers away. These urban sub cultures exist where I live but they are not as prominent or big as they are in the capital. It goes to show how how diverse the culture is in this country.

  • @joanofarcxxi
    @joanofarcxxi Před 4 měsíci +5

    I LOVED this so much, for so many reasons. I am Portuguese but I live in California and have spent most of my adult life in Los Angeles and Fresno (now I live in the central coast). I visited Mexico several times, different states and cities, but my favorite was definitely Mexico City. It is wild! I have never seen such a mezcla of people, sights, sounds, and flavors, it's so unique, insane, wonderful, and exotic. It's packed with a whole lot of people!! - and they are often up all night. I remember going to a cafe after 1AM, on a week night, and it was so packed that there were no tables or chairs left. People were sitting on the sidewalk outside. It was hot, but not uncomfortable. People were wearing the most interesting fusion of styles, and they had their guitars, and some had matracas, flutes, and other small instruments, and they were playing music and smoking cigarettes. There is a rawness to the place. It feels brutal at times. I was scared to walk around at night, and even in the day, I was afraid to walk around alone. I find Mexican culture super interesting and mysterious. In a way, Mexicans and Portuguese are very similar, perhaps due to Catholicism and the Hispanic background of the discoveries and colonization, and of course, our language. But in other ways, we are so different. Mexican culture and history are fascinating, and the different groups/gangs of fashion expression are truly phenomenal in the way they embody the varied sentiments of the diverse population. You did such a great job with this report, and I have to say, you are very brave. It's almost like you infiltrated their world, and they were not all necessarily comfortable with that, so it took guts to dive in. ❤💚🤍💙 Saludos hermanos Mexicanos. ❤💀

    • @jonathanweir6084
      @jonathanweir6084 Před 4 měsíci

      anywhere compared to portugal is, especially coming from the azores. fresno even.

    • @joanofarcxxi
      @joanofarcxxi Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@jonathanweir6084yeah, right. I am not from Azores, a very beautiful place. And I didn't grow up in Portugal, though I was born there and I love my heritage. I have traveled a lot and lived in different countries. Mexico City is in a separate category. Over 22 million people in one massive chaotic city. It's tremendous.

  • @bevs9995
    @bevs9995 Před 5 měsíci +39

    Fascinating that the emos and punks hate eachother in mexico --- never seemed to be the case in America.. Actually, it seems like the two subcultures just produced a hybrid: Called the Scene Kids

    • @helenrowlett6804
      @helenrowlett6804 Před 5 měsíci +5

      agree. punks and emos are mostly the same in the US

    • @speedwagoncito
      @speedwagoncito Před 5 měsíci +5

      I don't know if it's the same or similar in other places, but here in Mexico, a lot of "true fans" of something tend to be the gatekeeper kind of fans, especially when it comes to music like rock (punk or metal, mainly). If you don't like the same genre as them, you're looked down upon by "trues". If you like the genre but listen to "mainstream" bands, you're looked down upon by "trues". If you're just getting into a band's music or a genre in general, you're seen as a "poser" by "trues" because you likely only/mostly know the most popular songs of that band/genre, and so on and so forth. I'm guessing that could be where part of the hate stems from, since some of the emo kids in the video were wearing Misfits shirts and other punk bands' shirts too. It's frankly silly, but it's something that actually happens with some of those guys.
      Also, as mentioned in the video, a lot of people here associate being emo with being gay as plenty of the then kids who were emo here in the 2000s have identified as LGBTQ+ at some point. Plus, emos were known to be more in touch with their feelings, being emotional and crying and etc, all of which tend to be seen as "feminine things" that men are looked down upon or even mocked about it if they do it and, thus, seen as "gay" due to the strongly rooted sexism/misogyny we have in the country. Pair that with the raging homophobia even in more open-minded places like Mexico city, and it really does show more or less where some of the hate towards emos comes from.
      It also doesn't help that a lot of punks in Latin America and in Mexico alone tend to align more with conservative views in general, and so you often see some of them making fun of radical stances and gender-defying looks and whatnot (countless times I've seen "boomer" type of posts from them mocking even other punks who are more radical in their appearances, or those who defy gender stereotypes and etc). It's sad.

    • @andros1000
      @andros1000 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Mexico *is* in “America”. The other country you are referencing is the “United States of America”. The word America was not coined solely for one country, but for an entire continent or hemisphere.

    • @bevs9995
      @bevs9995 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@andros1000 why do south americans keep saying this. i see them all over the comment sections of videos, like they really want to be known as "americans" or something

    • @andros1000
      @andros1000 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@bevs9995 Because that’s what they are. They are Americans from the southern part of America. Hence the name “South” America. US Americans are that and they are also just “Americans”, because they too exist in the continent/hemisphere that was named “America”since the early 1500s, *way before* the first English colonies were founded. US Americans can also be thought of as North Americans, because that distinction also applies to them, as it does to Canadians, Greenlanders, and Mexicans, all also just “American”, continentally or hemispherically speaking.
      I know most US Americans think of America/American as terms that only apply to them, and they have persuaded much of the rest of the world to think likewise. But, peoples with historical memory need not abide by such arbitrary appropriations. In Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French (partially) and German-speaking lands (partially as well), amongst others, this awareness of the true origin and significance of America/American is an established part of the culture.

  • @allisonrosinski1264
    @allisonrosinski1264 Před 8 měsíci +14

    This was so cool! Thanks for making this Refinery 29 and Hailey!

  • @swicheroo1
    @swicheroo1 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Correction: That opening shot is NOT a square. It's the central artery of the city--Avenida Paseo de la Reforma--where protests happen a lot. It is NOT a traditional square.

    • @Alpha-Andromeda
      @Alpha-Andromeda Před 4 měsíci

      And also where protests don’t happen all the time. It’s a beautiful major Avenue flanked by gorgeous trees and a wide esplanade for walking leisurely and enjoying. It’s separated in sections by several important roundabouts with monuments or fountains. One of these roundabouts has the “angel of independence” a tall column with a golden winged goddess atop , which is why the protests are held there whenever people feel they want to attract attention to their cause.
      Very similar to Place de la Bastille in Paris, also the type of roundabout which is a favorite place to make sure the government pays attention to your cause because you’re heavily disrupting traffic.

  • @AmissAttire
    @AmissAttire Před 5 měsíci +12

    This was beautifully and wonderfully inspiring!
    Well done Hailey 👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥. This truly moved my heart 🥰

  • @TheLoneDranger
    @TheLoneDranger Před 5 měsíci +5

    "Once we attack people's dignity, then it's no longer funny." So well said godinez.

  • @gerardorodas1854
    @gerardorodas1854 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I am a 59 year old from Tijuana punk rocker you did a tremendous job.

  • @camiloestrada2450
    @camiloestrada2450 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Amazing video! As a Mexican, I feel grateful for your work guys. Thanks! Hailey is la neta del planeta!

  • @FinancialFinesse00
    @FinancialFinesse00 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Thanks for making such a valuble and informative episode of Mexico City such a vibrant city full of energy loved it keep the gems coming

  • @jasminetorres8570
    @jasminetorres8570 Před 4 měsíci +9

    why am I so emotional?? I loved every minute of this as a Mexican-American, it was a great watch! loved the host!

  • @Meeseeyou
    @Meeseeyou Před 5 měsíci +25

    This video reminds me of a Spanish couple we shared an elevator with in Las Vegas at Cesar’s palace a few years back. They dressed and looked liked they have money. Not sure what they said to each other but they were giggling at my husband and I. Yeah, sure, we aren’t dressed like them but never judge a book by its cover. Time and place for everything, that’s our attitude. How does anyone know that we cannot afford a 10K purse, drive 100K car, or live in a million dollar home or two😉😉😉.
    Always tell my kids, always be humble, be kind to others, and count your blessings. Money can be lost in a blink of an eye but people will always remember how you treated them.
    My kid act the way that entitled man jerk throwing the bike off the street; I’ll be the first to kick his ass👊.

    • @dabsallday9938
      @dabsallday9938 Před 5 měsíci +6

      If you didn’t know what they were saying, how do you know that they were giggling at you and your husband?!?

    • @BoogieBoogsForever
      @BoogieBoogsForever Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@dabsallday9938😂 You've never interacted with people? You can tell when people glance at you and how they talk under their breath...

    • @BoogieBoogsForever
      @BoogieBoogsForever Před 4 měsíci

      Also, they were pointing.
      J/k 😂😂

    • @venomdank965
      @venomdank965 Před 4 měsíci +2

      they were maybe saying "mmm they look delicious Id like to invite them to our couples xxx group hehehehe"

    • @dabsallday9938
      @dabsallday9938 Před 4 měsíci

      @@BoogieBoogsForever of course I have 🤣 but I rewatched the video and you’re right.. it does look like they were talking about them..

  • @rodrigodiaz5003
    @rodrigodiaz5003 Před 5 měsíci +9

    So well documented, with sensitivity and care.. great oroduction.thank you!

  • @torodeoro5905
    @torodeoro5905 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Exelent video. I'm Mexican living in the US all my life and sometimes I forget how beautiful my culture is. Great job 👏👏

  • @fleetc
    @fleetc Před 4 měsíci +3

    The reporter and team did an amazing job documenting this. It's sad seeing so many lost souls. The godín part was really funny, it reminds me of the salaryman in Japan.

  • @pathfinderwellcare
    @pathfinderwellcare Před 4 měsíci +2

    I really appreciate and honor Hailey's compassion and humility. ❤

  • @LohengrinX14
    @LohengrinX14 Před 2 měsíci +1

    man as an american the Goths, punks and emos not getting along is just mind blowing to me cause here we're like one nation made of many tribes of people who love wearing black

  • @miloluna8201
    @miloluna8201 Před 5 měsíci +13

    Me encantó muchísimo como tú vas aprendiendo de cada persona con respeto y asombro. 🎉🎉🎉❤

  • @diegomsvn
    @diegomsvn Před 5 měsíci +7

    Im finding out this videos and I have to say youre really amazing for doing this im from Mexico and I really enjoyed watching her explore MBFW

  • @GothGuy885
    @GothGuy885 Před 4 měsíci +4

    kewl that Goth is still alive and well in Mexico. I do my part here in California 👍🤘

  • @maryancorzo3294
    @maryancorzo3294 Před 5 měsíci +5

    increíble contenido, mostrando un lado de la ciudad de méxico que normalmente no muestran. Gracias por el gran documental!!!

  • @jaad9848
    @jaad9848 Před 5 měsíci +7

    The taxis are always running scams in CDMX and Cancun. I generally support Taxis worldwide but taxi drivers in those 2 specific places can get bent

    • @BearingMySeoul
      @BearingMySeoul Před 5 měsíci

      Just take Uber or Didi? That's what I use apart from the airport.

  • @amadolandin9506
    @amadolandin9506 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Amazing video! I used to live in Mexico City and saw a lot of what you experienced. Being part of many of the urban tribes has probably open our eyes to different worlds within one BIG City.

  • @saltspringdesign
    @saltspringdesign Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is fascinating, revealing, very well made, I absolutely love the host and the subject matter. This is an important sociological record, as educational as it is entertaining. The human race are extremely colourful and creative but that’s not all. We are also violent, destructive, egotistical, self-centred, irrational and crazy sometimes. Watching this re-enforces my own pre-disposition to eschew tribalism and be a lone wolf, a man with no pre-set system of belief, no uniform to identify me as a member of social sub-culture or economic class, free of the prevailing cultural paradigms and beholden to no one. To any realistic, rational, well educated person Catholicism is whack and has an atrocious history. I do like some of the music and architecture, however that has come for Catholicism but all of that does not come close to countering the pain, torture, rape and confusion on the people of South and Central American. The blending and blurring of the more ancient animistic and polytheistic religions with the newer Catholicism is very interesting from a sociological perspective also. The familia aspect is understandable, given the nature of human condition and the fact that many, for one reason or another, do not really have a family nurturing and protecting them. I feel blessed for mine for sure and I suppose a family IS a sort of tribe, some more than others. It’s complicated.

  • @OscarOLVERAIRIGOYEN
    @OscarOLVERAIRIGOYEN Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hailey enriches the fashion show with humanity, cultural awareness, intelligence, and incredible empathy for all human expressions. Bravo!

  • @warehouserobotstudio
    @warehouserobotstudio Před 5 měsíci +4

    Great documentary, a real dive into the true Mexico. Congrats!! I loved it

  • @book_cake4
    @book_cake4 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Kissing in the cheek is common when people know eachother, but with stragers, not so much. I know for a fact that they felt affection and it was nice that you did that.

  • @ericksolorio3084
    @ericksolorio3084 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great documentary!
    The way Hailey connects with the awesome people of Mexico City is very great!

  • @pilargonzalez8442
    @pilargonzalez8442 Před 4 měsíci

    Loved this documentary! Wonderful how kind she is with the people she interviews, loved seeing such different people and hearing their stories, just wonderful. I was very impressed by the creativity of the ID designer and show!! Thank you Hailey & Crew!!!

  • @mino3d1
    @mino3d1 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The talent of that young fashion Designer; "Rosa Pistolas" is so original; UNIQUE.
    Great documentary I really loved the way you fused with all the people ❤ your video it is SO different from other CZcamsrs that they copy to each other again and again the same thing,,, Congrats ✌🏻

  • @sebastianaleman5493
    @sebastianaleman5493 Před 4 měsíci +2

    the Godines part got me dead lmao

  • @MajICReiki
    @MajICReiki Před 4 měsíci +2

    Well done documentary, the interviews are respectful, lovely, intriguing and human. I appreciate the connecting the subcultures through faith and shared beliefs, culture heritage, values, and even the challenges they share in common, despite their differences.

  • @amisam2215
    @amisam2215 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I love your documentaries. Furthermore you are so beautiful but at the same time modest and non judgemental. This makes you and your work very likeable :)

  • @ciciv123
    @ciciv123 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Wish I would of seen my tribe on here. Los sonideros. #sonidos #Sonoramico #laChanga #Condor

  • @TXTrojan
    @TXTrojan Před 3 měsíci

    loved this interview and it randomly showed up on my feed great seeing not just a different culture as the stereotype but the different tribes within . this was well put together

  • @nomadicroadrat
    @nomadicroadrat Před 4 měsíci +2

    Kudos to the producers and researchers. Before reading that it was a Vice production, kept thinking this is so Vice like.

  • @erenjaeger1738
    @erenjaeger1738 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Bruh, seeing emo still a thing in Mexico gave me mixed feelings. It's like 2009 all over again:'(. I love they still dress like 2005-2011 style

    • @frankyymilkyy9001
      @frankyymilkyy9001 Před 2 měsíci

      why should someone stop being an emo if they already are? some would stay emo forever. (disclaimer: I'm not an emo and I don't like the music)

  • @nerval-ts5wk
    @nerval-ts5wk Před 5 měsíci +5

    Es un exelente trabajo, cubres cosas que pocos perciben ❤ saludos de Guadalajara

  • @mwj5368
    @mwj5368 Před 4 měsíci

    Hailey is amazing how she meets with so many within the huge population of Mexico City. She can speak with anyone and they all accept her. I live in a Senior citizens building of 131 apartments and they formed a "tribe" here too. They all gather around the front lobby and become informally "members" and hang out there most of the day. It is their way of support and dealing with the greater society they have been segregated from. I see the formation of a tribe as a primal necessity as we are a social being and it is fundamental to the course of human history. I'm not a member but it is interesting to see how they find unity and support and satisfy a basic human need. It's interesting as it happens in Mexico City and Minneapolis, or Tokyo, or Bejing... I see it as a universal to the human condition. Thanks Hailey as you are courageous amazing person communicating with an array of amazing people, opening a vital window on the world.

  • @servandopatlan6150
    @servandopatlan6150 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you for a very respectful report. You did a great job of explaining the why of each community. Keep promoting understanding for all of humanity.

  • @callmec0c0
    @callmec0c0 Před 6 měsíci +12

    I would be in jail in Mexico. A little rich twat bumping my bike? That money will go to face reconstruction surgery for him

  • @rickycardenas5154
    @rickycardenas5154 Před 5 měsíci +4

    LMFAO why the fuc Jonathan dressed in a scantily clad robe 😂

  • @Skootfairy
    @Skootfairy Před měsícem +1

    Love the zen garden moment!

  • @dustedNdisgusted
    @dustedNdisgusted Před 4 měsíci

    Great work Hailey. You are a vibe! I stumbled on this video by accident and found it so compelling. I love CDMX and this video.

  • @Teonanacatl
    @Teonanacatl Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm 50, I used to be a rocker, now I'm a godín 😎🤑

  • @miguelgr11
    @miguelgr11 Před 5 měsíci +3

    This is one of the best docs I have ever seen! So much respect and empathy by the presenter. Awsome work!

  • @diane9247
    @diane9247 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This was so good! There is so much strife between groups, though. I wasn't expecting that.

  • @helenarosno
    @helenarosno Před měsícem

    this is an amazing documentary thank you for making it!

  • @TheWayabo
    @TheWayabo Před 5 měsíci +3

    At the start of the video I thought it was going to be some generic "influencer" video thing, but you went to interesting places, with interesting people and it was very funny, but I was thinking "why does she said the peso is devalued? when right now is one of the strongest currencies in the world" then I saw at the end of the video that it was a production from 2017, that's the difference a good president can do

  • @babyhoneybee777
    @babyhoneybee777 Před 5 měsíci +6

    The think about countercultures, is that they are really all against one enemy in the end- I agree with another commentator, all of these people with so much heart and soul should unite against the upper class (there's WAY MORE of us than there are of them...) and really- I echo that sentiment for almost every country in the world right now. In America, we are struggling too, though certainly a privelaged struggle, but still- to keep food on the table, to keep our apartments or houses, to see a doctor when sick, and I see this in every country where the top few hold ALL the wealth and the divide grows larger. There is NO reason we cannot ALL eat, sleep under a roof, and have enough, there are enough resources if distributed correctly. I work 40 hours a week, and I can't even afford to buy enough food, fix my car or a house.. I rent in combined quarters with multiple generations of family- all in the last 5 years.... I have a feeling that we will all come to a breaking point soon, it's already happening... WORLDWIDE!
    There are so many more of us struggling for necessities than those flying around in private jets wasting 100,000 on a couch for their living room in their 3rd house.... forget race, religion, ethnicity, sexuality, those are all personal things that are used against us to keep us apart so we don't realize we are all actually in the SAME boat, so we don't not unite as one against the small percent that hoarde all the resources that could keep us ALL fed, housed, and truly safe and comfortable...

    • @mikeyrose4183
      @mikeyrose4183 Před 5 měsíci

      They are under US 👹🇺🇸 payroll.

  • @seasalt9845
    @seasalt9845 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That was one of the best, excellent work documentary I've seen.

  • @NotTheEx
    @NotTheEx Před 4 měsíci +2

    Mexicans have really begun to think for themselves in the last two decades, breaking molds and reforming cultural norms. I'm pleased at the difference there is in today's Mexican youth, I just hope they don't fall away from the traditional family values that made their culture so great as they move away from the chauvinism and polygamy that oppressed them.

  • @paulgoebertp
    @paulgoebertp Před 5 měsíci +5

    What an informative, fun and colorful piece of work, with an excellent host. Need to watch more of her work, she relates to her interviewees as friends.

  • @LuisGuzman-cd6zi
    @LuisGuzman-cd6zi Před 5 měsíci +5

    this is like a 8 years old video or more

  • @dallasdutoit1307
    @dallasdutoit1307 Před 5 měsíci +1

    @haileybentongates You handled this so well! Your ease, sensitivity and keen observations made this incredibly powerful to watch. Bravo.

  • @ErikFreaknRogue
    @ErikFreaknRogue Před 24 dny

    I just wanna thank you for this. I’m a Mexican born and raised in American. Growing up gay I’ve never felt this closeness with Mexican culture bc of how much they hate us, but seeing this and hearing the stories makes me proud to be Mexican. We come in all different shades of brown and seeing the fashion in the culture was so beautiful!

  • @BlueZebraism
    @BlueZebraism Před 8 měsíci +16

    Maaan, seeing those emo kids gave me some serious nostalgia.
    The amount of time i spent infront of the mirror with a hot ass hair straightener was insane. Lmaoo! 😆

  • @LifeofMinna
    @LifeofMinna Před 5 měsíci +4

    Hailey is a cool girl!

  • @ApLemon
    @ApLemon Před měsícem

    I really enjoyed this documentary; Hailey engaged with the culture of each tribe and by embodying the fashion style and their activities helped this work to reflect the multiple realities that people live within this small but dense city.

  • @Marine-sz2lf
    @Marine-sz2lf Před 2 měsíci

    Hailey, this is one of the best videos I have seen about Mexico! As a Mexican living in USA, I had no idea about this type of culture in Mexico. I thank you for making this video.

  • @leewest356
    @leewest356 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Definitely an old video. “The peso is at an all time low”. No way Güey. The súper peso has been beating up the dollar for over two years now.

    • @SEVENTHREEANDNINE
      @SEVENTHREEANDNINE Před 2 měsíci

      Yes as a Canadians was shocked same or more expensive than Toronto! CDMX and SMA. Not everything.. healthcare less, half even.. but possible to find less Gringo pricing as well. But as a tourist. Europe seems cheaper!