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- In Russia, Western fashions are hard to come by thanks to sanctions. But in a country where buying a fur coat is almost a rite of passage, the demand for luxury brands is only growing.
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This episode of States of Undress was originally published by VICE in 2016.
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Yall disgusting
@Refinery29 so what? Publishing this kind of video in the time of war? Unbelievable. I watched all your videos but sadly I’m unsubscribing. Unbelievable that you posted it. Yeah, let’s talk about fashion in Russia when their soldiers are killing civilians in Ukraine. Great job
Thank you for this video none the less. It was a good peek at a country whos people and fashion tend to get overlooked due to the leadership in our world and the chaos they create.
click bait much
When the stylist mentioned how it’s attractive for women to look moody and not smile, my Russian aunt said it’s often thought that a woman who is bubbly and smiles a lot doesn’t have much going on in her head (air headed and aloof). Having a serious expression is a signal of intelligence.
That's sad
But they shouldn't wear glasses because they look like they should be reading a book? 🤔
These people all need to shut up. If a woman is serious she’s a prude intellectual, if she’s bubbly and smiles she’s an empty headed bimbo. 🙄
Just say you hate women no matter what they do and go. Even more embarrassing watching women help men with this bullshit saying such stupid things.
looking back on all the women i've dated, this seems so true. the loud and expressive ones were the most boring and annoying ones to be around. the quiet and serious ones were the ones that taught me a lot, both dating wise and intellectually
Oh i think she said it exactly the other way around!! That moody, unsmiling woman are NOT attractive!!
I burst out laughing when that dude stepped out, he looks like the most stereotypical mafia boss amplified x100
the hood russian is taking me outtt
I’m SCREAMING at Hailey fully disassociating while this man gives her the most disgusting misogynist biology lesson of all time 🤢
Like the girl at the seminar said: “I rather be single”.
This entire series of States of Undress is incredible
My favorite part was when that woman used a picture of Hailey as an example of what not to look like, and didn’t realize it was her.🤣
FYI: This video was originally published in 2016 (per the video details) hence why some of you may think it's a little tone deaf.
It's tone-deaf to air it now.
Thats a pretty shit excuse tbh
why would it be tone deaf to report on something? Genuine question. I don't understand how the concept of international news and journalism could work if we were so naive to believe every sentiment shared on a documentary
@@anmnouthey were republishing all of them and they can’t control what Putin does during that time
how is it tone deaf? The majority of the episode is about how shitty russian culture is. I think this is the most effective smear campaign of Russia I have seen and I commend them for that
Hailey, you do such an incredible job at interviewing people, especially if they have differing viewpoints. Your style of interviewing really allows people of any political background to express themselves fully and i appreciate that this series attributes enough agency to the viewer to form an opinion, while still commenting on discriminatory viewpoints.
The tank taxi is hilariously unexpected and at the same time expected for Russia 😂😂
its bullshit that aint real
Incredible series. I love how respectful she is to everyone even if they have crazy differing views.
it's not about opinion at all. Consider the entire event through the special services. Milonov is far from the last character in Putin's circle
I really admire her cold-bloodness when hearing all that nonsense
States of undress is a spectacular collection of ethnographies. Absolutely brilliant journalism.
Ol girl totally checked out when the “marriage expert” was mansplaining what a proper wife should be and it was hilarious 😆
No she wasn’t… she was discovering inside her own mind that he was 100% right.
@@w.jasonspangler2952 gross
@@w.jasonspangler2952 yes because you can read her mind, right?
@@w.jasonspangler2952 Russia has the highest divorce rates
Maybe he didn’t want her to womansplain what her idea of a modern marriage is.
They’ve been republishing this whole series! Chill y’all. This whole series is fascinating. It focuses on parts of the world that generally struggle and Russia is no exception. This was journalism well done. She did not inject her opinion as the content should be all the audience needs to make their judgment call. This was eye opening. I did not think it glorified Putin but pointed to how great a facade his show of “strength” is. He is a coward hiding behind brainwashed communities that have a sad disconnect to reality thanks to his successful campaigns within the country. I feel for the Russians that know the truth and want out and for the Russians who have died trying to get the truth out there. What Putin is doing in Ukraine is terrible. This just highlights the disturbing psyche of Putin and his supporters.
She did not said anything but it contain a lot of 'context". You already forgotten what Ukraine and the West do to Donbass for almost 10 years, that is what really terrible. You are just another western brainwashed zombie.
Wait… how is a child “hostage” to loving same-sex parents who took considerable effort and finances to bring that child into their lives, but not a hostage to a heterosexual couple who drinks, fights, and neglects them? It’s not really about the gender of the parents…..
Just so you further understand how toned deaf Russians are on gay people: my mother was anti-gay men because she thought that meant less men for women to marry. It wasn’t until she met all of my gay and bi friends to realize that mindset was so incredibly false. And this was 20+ years after she moved to the use.
I thought the exact same thing, but arguing with people who say shit like this often seems absolutely futile
Stas looks like the real life embodiment of the kingpin
A tank as a Taxi? Now, that's badass.
Anti-American sentiment never left, it was always there and still is. It’s the reason I stopped visiting and I’m fully Russian and speak it fluently.
Did anti-Russian sentiments ever leave America? Who keeps sanctioning who? It’s a good thing you left and never do returns. Russia can do away with traitors like you. Every country has a right to define themselves and carve a clear path for themselves. The west values can’t be the same fro Russia! And if you truly are a real Russian, you will know better
If you dont have that anti-"American" sentiment, your country wont be protected from Satan 🇺🇸👹
I am speaking from experience. . . . 🇲🇽
Same goes for USA.
At 31:10 when that guy poke her and keeps doing it even though she is obviously uncomfortable with it, and then when she says “I’m from New York” he says “I would be accused of sexual harassment” like dude that’s sooo weird wtf? He knew what he was doing and tried to act like oh it fine American women over react…He’s lucky that she can be professional, I would have started going off on him 🙄 no wonder he is still single 🤢
🤮and he still kept trying like “😮💨and u say it in such sexy voice” like… he really thinks he’s so funny as if he’s charming her by being misogynistic and making fun of America, when he’s speaking to (harassing) an American woman…
"RUSSIA has the most divorce rate." SMH ...I ❤ this reporter✌️😁
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lol @ the people in the comments saying how dare you publish in a time of war. Simply not publishing doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist anymore. Also, If you have any idea how to change the mind of a grown ass conservative adult from a whole ass other country while doing a 20 minute interview, reach out directly to vice. I’m sure they’d love to have you on board. Y’all can’t change the minds of the people you live next door to, what the fuck makes you think you’d be any better in this situation than this woman…lmaoooo
I don't think they understand how journalism works.. just because you don't like something doesn't mean you shouldn't learn about it. That's actually just life in general
Agreed 100%
you can't fix stupid
This was very good information, one can almost see the parallels in western society and russian society that wants "traditional livelihoods" Shocking but undesirably relevant
Stas looks exactly like "Kingpin" from the Spiderman comics!
Lol true
With Babushka fashion, you never go wrong.
Hailey you are a legend! Thank you for your amazing work!!!
I love her. So adorable, polite and respectful. Really enjoy her interviews❤❤❤❤
It’s weird to hear that marriage in Russia is a spiritual thing because it really isn’t. Religion is still not that important as far as marriage goes mainly because spiritual traditions were lost during the Soviet Union.
During the crisis of the 90s, many people went to faith and to faith in the supernatural. Now there is no Soviet state in Russia. The opinion of priests is very important) they are even allowed to go to school, tell girls how to be a good wife, etc
Isn't it a good opportunity to come up with new luxury brands?
Omg, i'm russian, but i've never seen freaks like those shown in your video
That's because these "reporters" purposely search for freaks as representatives of Russia. Notice how the speed dating thing had mostly old unattractive men and women of the same calibre.. (only one guy was young and good looking, I don't know what he was doing there) normal Russians would't be seen dead at an event like that. And the guy that was poking her is clearly socially awkward and likely has mental problems, hence the Incel status. Normal Russian guys are far more charming than this. As for the marriage agency guy.. he's a scammer praying on people's insecurities and mental problems. She could have also just taken a normal taxi to the fashion event like all normal people do, but no.. she had to find a damn tank. I wouldn't even be surprised if most people there were paid to act as total freaks, then slap some dreary music on top and bam.. we have our selves this "documentary"
russian dude: it's a natural necessity for woman to get married and live happily
interviewer: but russia has the highest divorce rate in the world
russian dude: yeah.. but 🤓☝
“I’m not going to judge, everyone expresses themselves differently” *is openly homophobic* what in the name of hypocrisy..
Everyone is free to make their own choices. Whether you like it or not. Judging people who do not agree with a certain lifestyle is the exact same anyway YOU put it.
@@honiej00n75 I wasn’t judging, merely making an observation, but thank you for your comment.
@@honiej00n75 people’s humanity is not a mere “opinion”
@@honiej00n75 and punishing people because you don’t agree with their lifestyle is ok? They’ve gone beyond just “disagreeing” with someones lifestyle.
@@nuutasi excuse me? I dint know you nor did I @ you with any preposterous supposition that abuse is ok.
"Were not Afraid to be isolated" the last words in this doc from a Russian politician....honestly haunting to hear now 7 months after the war started...this was filmed 6 or 7 years ago by the way.....and isolated they willl be!! #prayforukraine
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A lot of those young men are either dead or on their way to being cannon fodder in Ukraine. This is Putin’s legacy.
They care less! The west is not the whole world! The bulk of the world is with Russia. The west should accept their failed attempts at breaking up Russia! You helped build a strong sense of nationalism in young Russians. They now who the real enemies are. Russia is self-sufficient remember?
Orange - The color of Prisoners and Hermese ♡
I own four of those Latvian ushanka hats the model Is wearing. They are the best winter hats for -20 C.
It's interesting to see the level of quasi-fanatical pro-Putin patriotism, and economic sanctions against Russia . . . in 2016. Fast forward to now, in late 2022. Russia already had military action in Ukraine, before this video was made (2014, Crimea). Trying to measure the public sentiment now is a bit more in context with this window into the past . . . via a fashion show! Hailey does a remarkably good job with her series, very down to Earth, respectful, and gets unique access into the local cultures and people.
Обожаю тот факт, что команда показала такую сторону России. Спасибо за кринж, но эти женоненавистники не являются сутью нашего государства. На оппозицию было уделено несколько минут, в то время, как она действительно существует в России (особенно в таком культурном городе как Санкт-Петербург). Желаю комментаторам и зрителям здраво оценивать такой контент и учитывать, что все показанное в видеоролике утрировано. Россия не только про запреты и ответы на санкции. У нас есть своя культура без консервативных политических взглядов и свои художники с новым видением. P.s. Кстати, как все эти люди связаны с неделей моды в Санкт-Петербурге?
I love the fact that the team showed such a side of Russia. Thanks for the cringe, but these misogynists are not the essence of our state. The opposition was given a few minutes, while it really exists in Russia (especially in such a cultural city as St. Petersburg). I wish commentators and viewers to sensibly evaluate such content and take into account that everything shown in the video is exaggerated. Russia is not only about bans and responses to sanctions. We have our own culture without conservative political views and our own artists with a new vision. P.s. By the way, how are all these people connected with fashion week in St. Petersburg?
I’m enjoying your work as you are too. Props to you. New subscriber!
Wonder how many of those boys playing ballads at the studio are dead now and now many of them realize what a shit show they're in the middle of...
Lol, she showed me some freaks I've never heard of. And I've been living in Petersburg for 30 years
This video was produced in 2016 (even though it currently as of this day says just one month ago).
I wonder if 6 years later, how the Russians being interviewed in the video now (and population in general) feel about Putin post his February 26 invasion of Ukraine and loss of, depending on which statistics you listen to, up to 60,000 soldiers and other consequences caused by his decisions then and sense and the fallout it has had on their lives. Particularly those young adults interviewed in the café setting.
Love this series
Well done!! Great journalism!!
Congratulations for one of the most eye-opening series I have ever watched. The fashion angle is absolutely perfect to truly understand the culture of a society.
This particular episode was hard to watch but it's important to understand what is really going on.
As a born and raised in Russia I believe that was an unfair image of Russia. The staged shooting with Stas (who's a well-know freak from 90s) at the worst market in Saint-Petersburg. Why didn't you show real designers, who makes the actual wearable brands? You showed the other freak in a dating field. Only older generation would use his service. I'm from Saint-Petersburg, we all make fun of his billboards. Saint-Petersburg is a capital of artists, musicians, poets, protestors, LGBTQ+ community and sex industry. Your interpretation of my home is insanely one-sided.
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You are worried about Russias reputation? Get rid off that Putin criminal and his whores then
No one cares what you think. You were able to change something in your country. Now it’s too late. Congrats to you and your family. Keep enjoying the video while your people are killing the Ukrainians.
Don't expect neutrality from Western media. It's all one-sided. Also, there are no independent media in the US, so all those programs have a political agenda.
The guy in the read jacket is awesome. He would have no life in the US because the US is a multicultural country and there is no such thing as an ethnic American. Different ethnic groups live next to each other but not together.
I love this show so much!
Excelente greetings from mexico keep up the good work I enjoy your videos
Oh, the tank drive was amazing! 😂😂😂
I loved this episode 👍
Glad they clarified this was made by vice in 2016 because I was so turned off by it and considered it tone deaf before I realized that. I do think the timing of republish is tone deaf however so nothings changed much.
What does it change? Nothing
@@jagaes6 that’s literally what I said? That the republication timing was tone deaf so nothings different
@@deadchannel986 Vice and Refinery are Not Republican..
if this was published by Vice in 2016, why is it being posted on Refinery29's page in Aug 22? Did Vice just buy out Refinery29?
@@kiki29073 The words Republication and Republicans are NOT related to each other.
The 2 young men in there were unbelievably horrible and I can't believe he just started poking your hip like that!!!!!!
brilliant ! very impressive ! it deserves many more views . the girl is genius !
Women raise the family and go through so much bullshit. I wish the world could be honest, and admit how important women actually are.
I love these videos, they're so interesting and informative
You do a great job, fashion and politics...you wear it well!
I don't understand why gay is "disgusting"? Not trying to argue but genuine question, I don't understand the meaning
Open your mind. You.ve been western-conditioned.
@@camouflageartist8897 open your mind first before asking someone else to do so. You’ve likely been brainwashed and don’t even know it. There’s nothing disgusting about gay people.
It's all based on religions views. They believe that same sex attraction is a sin therefore it's bad and/or "disgusting". I'm giving you answer but it's up to you to believe that. Loving someone who loves you back shouldn't be a bad thing and no one's business but yourself and that person. Whoever that may be.
I'm not sure it's just the sexual attraction itself but the community around it...very over sexualized and seemingly low morality
@@gc1097 it’s not religion based, it’s based on the fact that they believe it disturbs reproduction and the traditional family unit. Has nothing to do with religion because religion was banned for most of its modern history.
The blond guy at the men's seminar was disgusting.
Read the room
Hailey Gates is an amazing human being!
Love is all that matters 30:22
I honestly loved the interaction at the beginning between stas and the reporter 😂
Omg she so badass! To keep looking the beast of conservatism, sexism and homophobia right in the eye. Very interesting to see and hear that side of pro-Putin Russians pretty ubinhibited. Some of it mademe chuckle , some of it made me raise my eyebrows and some of it made me almost sick and a lot of it made me pity Russian women. Omg. And this was 6 years ago..imagine the sentiments now. I do like the fact that this system endorses more local trade and manufacturing, and here and there enlivens local or national traditions, but the Stepford Wives approach to this all is just really really dishartening and frightening.
lol 😂when Hailey said Russia has the highest divorce rate
How is nobody watching these, i don't get it. This shit is fucking fabulous!!!
20 views… is something wrong with the count here? 🤔😮
@@LanaiYasmin that's what i thought too. Even on the Refinery29 channel you can't find these videos. It's very weird
It’s a re-upload from Vice from like 2016.
@@gretaweiss6802 did they remix it with references to war and sanctions?
@@PettyBlue1
Previous war. 2014 in crimea. Previous sanctions too. It just sounds like exactly what we’re hearing from Russia and Ukraine today!
I grew up in St. Petersburg, lived there in 2016 and god, did this video made me cringe! This didn't reflect the life in StP at all. Can we stop fetishising Russia? Stop pushing the stereotypes about Russian brides/Eastern meek and submissive girls? Stop making it look like everything in Russia is about Putin? Or about big weird mafia guys and supermodels? This is not Anastasia cartoon! And yeah, the reporting on furs was really unprofessional.
what really cringeworthy is that a guy like Milonov was elected multiple times to serve on executive positions by people of St. Petersburg. So much for progressive city! And everything is about Putin there, because he's been ruling the country singlehandedly for over two decades now.
Those fluffy hats, usually made out of bear fur, are called "kuczma's". It looked great on you! 😁 That is my family name, changed to Kuchma, then Kuchman, when my grandparents moved to America. My uncle is Leonid Kuchma, the former President of Ukraine. 🙏📖🇺🇸🌎
36:51 made this worth watching 😂
When will the next episode be uploaded?
Sorry to the anto fir people here but, my dream has always been to own a Russian Sable Coat and floor length hooded cape.
i had a fake lather coat and it was just cold i have a real one to gluy but warm and the cow died from old age they believe the older the hide the stronger the hide is my grandma gived it to me she got it when she was young and i want one to for the warmth
The two stereotype I found to be true in most ex iron curtain locales was that one should never attempt to outdrink the inhabitants and larges swathes have a bizzare love of Michael Jackson. Otherwise I think these viewpoints pefectly demonstate the universal nightmarishness of religiosity and an extreme conservative outlook.
Can you do a "Where Are They Now"?
You literally went to the weirdest places and contacted cringiest people. Milonov? Marriage agency???? Who actually use their services? Weird people?
this is so fun
BTW, there has been a Mrs. America Pageant in the US since the 1930s.
great commentary
Russia is an extraordinary country, where Medieval and urban live together
I just LOVE Hailey she's a badass.
3:48 lmao I need that shirt 😂
The guy in the beginning just looks like the boss from sonic
Why was this episode posted now out of context of the rest of the series? As many have said, posting this now is rather tone deaf, and imo an insult to the original producers. This series was great when it came out, especially the Congo and Pakistan episodes.
All that being said I accept that the OG producers should have done more to engage with real Russians, as even people from Russia in this comment section are saying it's off the mark.
There was NO Russians saying that weirdO
Обычно пропагандистский ролик на англоязычную аудиторию. Для нас русских это не впервые
@@cherrywilson6267 I'm Russian and I say that this is an American propaganda hit piece. Where did she even find that many freaks to film? This was done intentionally and it's obvious.
Nationalism is a good thing. You should want what's best for your country and your people
отлично, я одним своим видом и профессией уже отгоняю мужиков. радость какая
Так и хорошо же - таких мужиков с претензиями, завышенными требованиями и непомерным гонором отгонять действительно только в радость )
what's the song at 5:35 ?
23:06 Wow, Milanov speaks English very well!
Does Hailey Gates just speak like every language? or do ya'll edit out translating? Really cool, I love your fashion videos Hailey
That round bald Russian in a red coat almost hurt himself lighting a car on fire
I LOVE YOU ! YOU ROCK !!! You are my girl ! Congratulations !!!!!! Mike
"ALL THE EVIL COMES FROM THE WEST" yea says the real life eggman lol
STAS looks like a russian version of the kingpin.
“Putting things in order in Chechnya.”
Gack.
That song at 12:16 is the mirror image of “Girls Say Yes to Guys Who Say No,” a slogan in the US in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
Well, this aged well...
Its so sad, Russia has an amazing mind boggling history and really cool culture, after the fall of the Soviet Union it had the potential and resources to be a great place, too bad he ruined everything!!!!!!!! #standwithukraine
They let him do it.. They are equally responsible for their situation..
I’m not a big fan of Putin, but to say HE ruined everything is an incredibly narrow POV & perspective that is untenable once a person begins to educate themselves on Russian history over the last 120 yrs or so
@@tonypro1527 yes he ruined modern day russia, by waging genocide on an innocent country and forcing Russia into diplomatic isolation, the standard of living in Russia was already not the best for most people and now the sanctions from the past 8 years including the new ones from the war, make the standard of living even worse …he did ruin Russia….he is ruining peoples lives in Ukraine…yes I can blame him solely…not to mention the great political democracy and freedom of speech Russian people have….oh wait…see what I mean
@@4567bugie I am not defending Putin nor do I often agree with his politics. Yes, he has made some particulary awful decisions, especially as of late, that have really hurt Russia. Although, what ruined everything for modern Russia is the disastrous transitionally period immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union and Communism. Yes, this is the time optimism was highest and it had the potential to be a great place. In the decade that followed (Putin was not in power for any of this time) unbelievable mismanagement, corruption, lack of understanding of how decades of communist rule/ideology had impacted the minds of the population, etc. all but destroyed this optimism and Putin is a direct consequence of the total failure during this period. Without this horrible period of time for Russia which happened to come when optimism was at its highest there is no opportunity for a strong man like Putin to take control. Therefore, he did not ruin everything, he came to power at a time when things were alredy at a low point. He is simply a consequence of the failure inthe decade following 1991- this period of time is what ruined it all. You see.
@@tonypro1527 well if he’s a consequence he is a fatal consequence
The chokehold this woman has on me
At 31.10 have they brought this man from some mental institution or wth!!?
Very interesting.Thank you
😂💀The Putinator 💀😂
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Fashion be damned... I watch States of Undress to see the inner workings of foreign culture!
This great show man makes foreigns dreams come true: to see a rude comunist style bandit with golden teeth, purple suit, rude attitude and hating America. All stereotypes tourists expected to see about Russia! I bet this dude earns a lot of money!))) Hilarious!
ничего себе Милонов то по английский говорит бойко. и создает ощущение презентабельного человека. только вот его идеи... ну прям недолюблюваю с 10х
As a vegan, I'm not very fund of the fur coats. But if they are very important to russian cultural heritage, they might also get more sustainable and humane animal fur sources, even if I oppose it. And also remodel and redye some used fur coats after the years where they should be properly stored, cared for and cleaned. In our current state of scientific knowledge, we can disinvest fur and leather as well as feathers and look for technical fabrics and coats made to last and to support the climate change variations. Russians are cultivated but also knowledgeable and I hope that one day, we can see those coats in the country, as well as upcycled war uniforms.
Bloody hell: for the most part, Russia truly IS lost. Now as i'm writing this, in early September 2022, i'm wondering just how much - if at all - attitudes and outlooks amongst, particularly younger, Russians might have changed actually. All i can really say is that, were i myself one of them, i'm fairly certain my preeminent ambition in life would be just to escape from the country - and from its incredibly repressive, almost draconian, retrogressive mindset and atmosphere....
I'm from Russia. I love my country and my city and actually feel much more pressure from the West or Europe than from Russia. I'm 15 years old. I am blamed for the war and hated only for my origin. This is terrible
@@yansss_ I sincerely am sorry to learn that such is proving to be your experience; personally, i harbour no such sentiments towards the Russian people, as i fully realise that they are truly in no sense responsible for what their - what *your* - country's "governmental leadership" is doing in, and to, Ukraine. I was actually alluding however to the rather quite backward-looking and retrogressive societal mindset which would seem to appear, unfortunately, so very prevalent amongst so many ( ?? ) of Russia's citizens, even in so supposedly sophisticated and cosmopolitan a city as Sankt Peterburg 😔....
why the fuck did you space it out like that? your comment is unreadable
@@yansss_ I don't blame you or the general public of Russia for the war in Ukraine, but for many, they have been misled by an agenda and policy which is not at all what is being presented to the public. Of course Russian people want to love and be proud of their country, just like anyone else would be of their country and heritage. Just try to process this if you can, Putin had no "emergency" reason to invade Ukraine, NATO was not on the verge of attacking anyone. If anything, there was a brief window of hope for being with Russia on good terms . . . but then came Putin, with his ultra hard right nationalistic fervor.
@@yansss_ good.
And the young guy that's like I don't want to hear about your problems well then what the f*** does she need you for then?????