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The online non-online thing is the biggest thing holding me back from getting one these bad boys they have many pro’s and con’s but like you said if they just had waited until they were fully ready then it would be so much better and also that HATE how theirs little to none contact w/ the company and updates as well … I’m going to wait until the features are actually there
Well, today is Day 30 since I I placed my order via A1U. And Round 2 isn’t expected to ship until next month. I watched your video on Day 22, so I had plenty of time to cancel my order 😢 already planning on selling it to the first willing person who is a more serious fan than myself, but that seems like an insult. I only wanted it to finally have MSH and COTA since I walked away from their cabinet w/The Punisher for $200 two years ago. But yeah, a functional version of MvC2 would be nice cherry on top.
I think you’re the only one who actually gave an honest review. Lots of reviews that praise this cab and overlook the cons that most people expected when this was announced. Nice work man.
This is probably the best honest review on an A1U I’ve seen. Glad to see you are giving more in-depth. This is from a customer. Not a “shill”. Good work on this Doug. I hope more in the “community” will follow this lead. That said, you are completely right with every assessment you made on the company as far as product quality and addressing consumers. I don’t believe John D is a good “face” for a company.
MVC2 is one of my favorite fighting games, and its disheartening to hear all of the bad points about this machine. This one was the one I was seriously considering buying and I will refrain from doing so now. Thanks for the honest review
Great review. This is the first A1up cabinet I’ve bought in years. I had so many issues with wave 1 that I just left them alone, but like everyone else I had to have MVC2. It seems like A1up hasn’t learned a thing and they’re still up to the same old shenanigans. Either people will stop supporting or a better competitor will enter the marketplace. Thanks for your review.
There’s some reasons why I still have the Dreamcast versions of Marvel Vs. Capcom 1 & 2 after all of these years. 1.) They’re incredibly hard to find nowadays. 2.) Those versions are *truly* Arcade perfect (aside from maybe the HD versions on Xbox 360 & PS3, though they’re digital download only). This is a good, honest, detailed review that you’ve given unlike the others. It also saved me a _lot_ of money! 💰
Glad you mentioned the BOE response time. Haven’t seen anyone mention this in an actual review yet. Also thanks for focusing mainly on the gameplay instead of the usual aesthetics.
What a great, honest review. I was going to be ready to shell out 600 for this cabinet (being my first one), but this honest review gives me comfort in holding out and pushing away that FOMO. I love MvC2 with a passion and was looking forward to online play, but will stick to my other emulation for now. I'm also hoping that MvC2 gets re-released on consoles, I can then die happy!
Agreed I was planing to buy this for my birthday since it is coming up next month but seeing this Review I think I saved $600 but believe it or I'm rather both cusual when I'm playing buy myself and competitive when I'm playing with someone else so everything you said in this video does apply to me it's really cool that they free mvc2 but in a way we did not expect and that arcade1up got the chance to do it but it's a shame that it's not good man I do hope they make a mvc collection that has all the game that this cab to come out in all consoles
Super appreciate your honesty in this review and the finer details added for longtime fighting game fans, this was just what I was looking for. This is my all-time favorite arcade game and it’s a real shame this wasn’t handled better. I’ll stick with emulation and the DC version - thank you for saving me 600 bucks!
Thank you so much for your review. It's brutally honest regarding the quality control and most importantly, the review itself is coming from someone that has actual experience and knowledge on how MvC2 (and AC games in general) were distributed/installed in arcades and pizza parlors the world over. With all that in mind, I am yet again underwhelmed and disappointed with Arcade 1UP cabs. They have not gotten a single cabinet "right" and have fumbled with delivering an authentic experience on every single one of their cabs. Whenever I'm at Best Buy, I'm always eager to try their Arcade 1UP stations thinking, "it's been a few years and I know that they've listened to the criticisms", only to be disappointed yet again with their subpar joysticks, horrible buttons and most egregious at all, horrible emulation on a low tier "gaming" monitor. Seriously! Who at Arcade 1UP approved a 14ms monitor for a FIGHTING GAME cab?????
Very well balanced review. I still hope people review this after a couple of firmware updates because that will be telling as well. Regardless I appreciate this video.
The silver lining is almost all of the issues can be corrected with firmware updates and this cabinet still has a chance to be great. The real question is just how long will that take? 🤷🏻♂️
Interesting review. If online is your reason for buying, I can definitely see why you’d want to return. I’ve enjoyed the online experience of my other A1Up cabs, so hoping for the best.
CoolToy back from the grave. Welcome back, I miss watching your videos. That's unfortunate about about your cab, the same thing happened to my big blue SF. I got my cab as well, but all I used out of the box was the pcb and the molded coin door. I didn't have any midway style cabs in my arcade, so I opted for a different route. I wanted to replicate a big blue MVC2 as I remembered it in the arcades, back in the early 2000's. I picked up a used Big Blue and threw the mvc2 guts into that cab. I got custom side art, marquee and bezel artwork coming soon. It's gonna be an exciting project...
Great review! I was really tempted to make this my first A1Up, just because the fact that they “freed” MvC2, but it really just looks flimsy. I built my own pedestal style arcade which I need to fix the wobble on (hobbyist woodworker) but this looks even worse. Also, at 600 bucks it shouldn’t need new buttons, have poor input lag, and game slowdowns. The lack of online when something like fightcade exists makes this really not seem worth it to me. It does seem to have a nice games list and looks good, and I have read about some updates coming out (cross play between other marvel cabs) but this seems like it’s not the product for me unfortunately.
Great review and insight on the cabinet. As for the delay in the online play, I was one of those that gave A1UP the benefit of the doubt when they said this cabinet was not supposed to be released until November or NFL Blitz was not supposed to be released until Mid-Oct, so that is why it was missing features and such. However, I have started to change my stance on this. Arcade1up has to do better with these releases. If A1UP is stating that the stores are breaking and embargo, they have to hold them accountable, but I think that is not the case. It is A1UP sending them out early and expecting companies to sit on them, which is not going to happen. Think A1UP needs to wait before shipping them to retailers if they do not want them putting them out on the floors or shipping them. I really like A1UP and want them to succeed, but as you said they are 4 years into this and need to get their act together when i comes to releases like this.
That story that Arcade1up tried to sell people about retailers jumping the gun was just that, a story, told to customers to placate them and pass blame. Arcade1up is in absolute control of when retailers can acquire their merchandise. Arcade1up never set street date embargo’s on these new releases, they haven’t done that since their very first wave of cabinet releases 4 years ago. It’s flat out insulting someone at Arcade1Up would think it was ok to say such a silly and easily debunked statement.
Excellent review Doug! It'll be interesting to see how far a1up continues down this path. To have such rampant and continuous quality control issues, with zero communication (regard for) with thier customers, people need to stop buying their products. I stopped when my Tempest cab crapped out on me 4 times...4 times. Unacceptable imo. Appreciate your time and effort in creating exceptional content for this community.
Thank god someone finally mentions the BOE response time. I’ve been trying to figure this out for sometime now. Now I wonder if I can find a monitor with a better response time that works with arcade1up.
There are a couple hurdles you would have to overcome. First you would need to utilize a geekworm LVDS to HDMI converter board to adapt the Arcade1UP PCB video signal into a different monitor. These converters are great when they work, but have a very high failure rate unfortunately. Secondly finding a monitor with a faster response time that is 4:3 is going to be extremely difficult, so you would likely have to adapt to a 16:9 monitor instead.
Absolutely brilliant review Doug. You’re dead on with everything you said. I’m one of the ones who’s a casual with this game and had zero interest in the online, so it’s going to be fine for me.
Thank you for your honest take on this. I've noticed a pivot and promotion of late on the main A1up channels, and even some smaller ones is to focus on perceived transition to "Pro/XL" cabs. I just can't grasp this as A1up has really missed their stride of late and the last thing people should be doing is looking forward to spending even more on the eventual "Pro/XL " models. Get all the software/hardware issues and inconsistencies fixed. Make Faux coin doors stock. Better QC on marquees. Improve the quality of controls and ensure good monitors. Once they get there, and do it consistently, then focus on making a more premium Pro or XL.
I appreciate the honesty of this review. I'm a long time MvC2 fan, and let me tell you every input frame matters, if there's any lag at all, it's not authentic and should be labeled as cheap imitation or emulation. I had a feeling this was the case, I tried the 1up cabs at a store before with Street fighter 2, and immediately noticed all the problems, from cramped controls, cheap buttons, to input lag, to how small and shaky it was, it felt like I was playing a toy version of the original cabinet with emulation, it doesn't seem like they've improved much since then. Save your $600-$800 and invest into buying a real cabinet or the Dreamcast version for home port, or any other home port and create your own cabinet may be a more viable option than this scam.
Totally agree. Reminds me of when blizzard promised pvp for Diablo 3, and it never released in the arena format they promised. Don’t make promises you can’t keep, especially when you are trying to sell a product!
I appreciate what arcade1up has done by bringing scaled down cabinets for home use, something we all dreamed of having when we were kids...however they are so overpriced. I remember seeing the first generation cabinets in stores and thinking the newer ones must be so much better quality with the price increases and they really aren't. Same thin vinyl that peels up, same cheap buttons. The price just keeps going up. The online with some is a nice addition, and the fact it's not an additional monthly charge, but the price jumps are crazy. First tmnt release was something like $400 and then the turtles in time was way more for the same cabinet more or less. Then stores sit on them and end up clearing them out. I got the Simpson's for $200. I don't think these cabinets are worth much more than $350-400 with how cheap and few components they have. The Simpson's cabinet was my dream cabinet to own and was really happy when 1up made it and even happier that it went on clearance. I gutted it and upgraded everything to make it play thousands of games.
To the average person who can't mod due to lack of knowledge, these cabs will always be junk. I bought Yoga Flame and will be soft modding it. I won't be hard modding it because I want to keep the online play. As a massive street fighter 2 fan, losing online play isn't worth 1000s of games I'll never play. I'm gonna upgrade the sticks and buttons too
Great objective review brother. Sadly owning five previous cabs (and good ones), the future doesn't look so bright for them with their current QA matters and rushing things out the door and FOMO tactics (granted, usual modern day retail tactics) when they show up in all sorts of stores weeks later.
the FOMO nonsense is out of hand. They tried to tell people "pre-order now this will be super limited and you won't be able to get it if you wait". Then it was available day after day at a new retailer each time, and most big box stores have already fulfilled their preorders before the people that pre-ordered day 1 through Arcade1Up. It's always a mess.
Well said about a1u as a company and spot on about them rushing unfinished games for q4 sales numbers, which is such a slap in customers faces. I have 8 cabs but stopped buying once they jumped in price. Quality didn’t get better and even got worse in some areas so why pay more? It’ll take a holy grail that gets good honest reviews before I buy anymore. I’ll certainly never preorder anything from them. This being a prime example why
Great review with many valid criticisms. Canceled my preorder after some early impressions and Best Buy holding off on sending orders out. Luckily this enabled me to cancel my order.
perfect review man the flows etc and the speaker thing happened to me so i build again another cab after they changed it tsk your super right they didnt give justice on mvc2 they just want our money they didnt even gave us a stool with that kind of game tsk i thought being developed by justin wong would help them a lot but i guess it helped them a little tsk 😔 love your review hope many gamers would see your review thanks again man 🤙🏽
Loved the review, I always come here for your thoughts on this kind of stuff. My cabinet arrived over the weekend and did an unboxing vid on my channel yesterday. I am currently stress testing it myself and I will say this, this will be the last time I will preorder from Arcade1up. The experience was a disaster and you are right about their customer service, this is my second cabinet. My very first cabinet was the 1st Marvel vs Capcom and I love it but the online just died rather quick. I'm not too confident about the MVC2 online experience either now that I am looking into Arcade1up's history.
@@cooltoy yea and it baffles me how they are radio silent right now when it comes to the blitz online. So I'm hesitant moving forward when it comes to future machines. I like these because building from scratch is another hobby I just cant add to my already busy life. These 1up machines just made things easier and plus they are nice furniture to make your room setup look awesome.
@CoolToy, great review as always. A couple of things. First it looked like you had some shots of side panel damage or was that just wierd printing? Second, Arcade1Up's official response is retailers made this cab available earlier than the requested date of November. I think I'd give them until then before I judged the online play. Honestly I don't expect much but I'm always one to give the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully your return window extends into November.
Yes my cabinet arrived with some scrapes and dings on the side panel artwork. Arcade1up’s official response of blaming the retailers is an absolute load of crap. These cabinets weren’t given a street date and Arcade1up fully controls when retailers have access to their machines.
Thank you for this review Cooltoy. SheLion's review kept me from taking this out of the box and this one has confirmed my decision. Unfortunately, since I bought my product from BestBuy, I only have 15 days to return, 5 of which have passed. They hav 5 more days to either communicate or release a patch to bring MvC2 online or else I will start the return policy. Hopefully the product not working as advertised will be enough to avoid their restocking fee. This will sadly be my last A1U purchase, as I can no longer afford to spend top dollar on three-forth-assed products that may or may not be fixed in the future. Between this and Blitz, Arcade1up has destroyed all their goodwill with myself, and many in the community. I can see why you have chosen to stop supporting and why other content creators seem to be less and less enthusiastic about making content about A1U. This was supposed to be a wish fulfillment company that allows us 80s and 90s kids to have the home arcade of our dreams for a decent price, but as the prices climb and the lack of quality continues, I feel like this might be the beginning of the end for myself and others.
Mine arrived late, and I havent had a chance to even open it. But after this (and other) reviews, I may be just takingbit back if I dont hear of a patch soon.
This is a very good review! I like how well it was balanced. I'm a filthy casual so I don't care about online. However for those that do this is very annoying. Especially if blitz still doesn't have online after a month.
My last Arcade1up machine was a Big Blue. They never fixed the audio issues despite doing a firmware update, and I said to myself that was the last straw. They don't seem to care about their product nor do they stand behind it. I'll be buying custom cabs from here on out. Possibly a Megacade!
I’m glad I came across this review before I purchased this cabinet. I was going to purchase this cabinet for the online game play. Thank you for the honest review.
I appreciate the fair and balanced points you made. Great review. I do have a preorder directly from arcade 1up themselves. So i hope some of these issues are addressed before shipping. But I'm probably in the minority because i already have multiple ways to place mvc2. I really just want this machine for the novelty of owning an "arcade" of mvc2, as i always wanted to own an arcade as a kid. But definitely wouldn't be surprised if many others cancel their orders or return the cabinets and it would be justified. Arcade 1up should definitely do better
CoolToy, So glad you got to review this cab! I also appreciate your candor regarding why you stopped buying Arcade1up products. It's the reason I passed on so many I wanted. I didn't pick up their new Golden Tee with bowling game I so wanted, because of the horrible monitor. I didn't pick up any of their 4-Player cabs because the lack of value I feel offered with the low count number of 4-player games on each cab, especially vs. the real estate they take up. I also didn't pick up their Terminator 2 with it's paltry 1 game offering, and frankly not concerned about a licensing nightmare. By choosing a lightgun solution over an Arcade control scheme for T2, made it ripe for additional lightgun games. Since they knew they were going the lightgun route, I would've much preferred another franchise, and fill that cabinet with a large selection of games, maybe 10 or 20 titles. That's one of the reasons I bought Buck Hunter World, after I found out it had a HUGE amount of mini game variety, beyond its main objective games, making the value soar for me. I'm now watching iiRcade closely, seeing what they can contribute to the lightgun space. With their cabinet's ability to download new games, I hope this will be my main home arcade's lightgun solution. I've been a huge proponent of biding my time, waiting for cabs that really speak to me before making a purchase. Arcade1up has lost a lot of sales from me with their track record of cutting corners and not showing the true respect these games deserve (or at the very least, making them a value proposition for me). I know that won't cause them to lose sleep at night, but if the value's not there, my wallet's not opening. Thanks again, as always, for your candid, and not pulling punches, thoughts! vgv
Terminator 2 was such an odd cabinet release. 1 game, and some behind the scenes footage you would find on a dvd from 2005 isn't what I would call a huge value when compared to Big Buck Hunter. Which like you said, has loads of mini games to increase its own value. And to make matters worse Arcade1Up was charging even more on T2 but delivering less than what they offered with Big Buck Hunter. I want this company to succeed because I love seeing the resurgence of arcade gaming, but I'm not going to blindly throw my money at a company when they refuse to learn from their mistakes or adapt to consumer feedback. I don't know if it's arrogance or ignorance, or a combination of the two, but Arcade1Up seems dead set in their ways and doesn't seem to want to change.
Cooltoy, I think you hit the nail on the head. Change. And real change. Not fake molded coin doors, light up deck protectors, or stools change, but acceptable and decent controls, and rock solid gameplay change. I want quality and not trinket tin signs :) That's why I'm so glad we have competition in the market now. I'm SO HAPPY we have iiRcade and I also love my Rec Room Masters cab and my MVSX. I will always be grateful that Arcade1up opened the door, but if others knock with better deals, Arcade1up will have to sit on their subpar products when it comes to me :) vgv
Nice thorough objective review. 2 marquee cabs released within a month of each other with ADVERTISED online multiplayer. To not have it working at release is really dishonest, and as you mentioned,the fact there is nothing on their official media is disheartening as a consumer. $600 is too much to spend for an obvious selling feature to be missing. We saw how long it took to get pinball patched. 🙁
They're weird on updates. They did an update for the ms pac man stand up that adds dip switches and a sharp pixels option, but no updates on the cocktail version. But this coming with online advertised and it not being there is not good. But I'd also figure you could just play MVC2 on fightcade and get a better experience.
I know there are still people waiting on updates that were promised by John D for Pac-Man machines that remove the pixel smoothing filters that were set by default. Those people have been waiting the better part of a year for that update and sadly there is no sign of that ever coming to fruition
Despite the flaws, I've been unable to get a near perfect version going in my modded Marvel cab from years ago so this is still going to end up being a purchase for me. I still have my DC and the game with an Agetec stick to boot, but I want the full package experience without needing to dedicate those to another cab exclusively either. Online isn't a selling feature for me as it does not represent those nights with a crowd of 20+ people watching me and others duke it out live in person. I think with some Sanwa button upgrades and perhaps an HD marquee replacement, this would more than satisfy what I'd want out of this cab.
I am coming back to this review after doing the control panel mod to see which of the packaging material you used. It is a great idea, but you should definitely go with the 1/8" material on the squares and NOT the 3/16" shown here in order to get it really flush. Just peel the 1/8" material off one of the squares and you will have the material you need.
You will need to replace the panel with a wide panel, the buttons and joystick. The stock ones are not responsive enough to maintain any sort of quick play combos like Magneto’s infinite or Sentinel’s fly on/off etc. Combos are dropped all the time for a frustrating experience. This cabinet should have come with premium parts from Sanwa, Seimitsu or IL. I’m a diehard MVC2 fan, very disappointed in this cabinet but committed to making it work so I bought all the replacement parts for another $500 which included the wider panel buttons from Seimitsu and Sanwa high tension joysticks
Regarding the slant of the control deck it’s at a steep angle rather than more horizontal, putting strain on the wrists. When the hands rest horizontal it’s more natural, less strain. When playing for a while it can really begin to be bothersome. Is there anything that can be done? I can’t find a solution. No after market deck or diy hack?
Did you keep the cabinet or return it? Especially after their "update" video, stating they have no idea when they are making online available for MvC2 or fixing the input lag.
I bailed on one up a couple years ago . Bought three cabs from them and it's problem after problem. Screens went out on all three cabs I owned. I gave up. And with the prices going up there is no way I'm sticking with them. I just bought a very nice custom multicade. Think I'll just stick with that for my retro gaming
I notice how much this cab rocks really bad when you are in game play. That would drive me nuts. I've heard to if you upgrade the spring tension on Arcade 1Up cabs that they move all over the floor. Thanks for the great honest review. Just another good example of not pre-ordering an Arcade 1Up until you see the issues. And then you have to wander one day is Arcade 1Up a company that will fail and go out of business.
Yeah that wobble really was disappointing to see. My home built arcade does that a little and I plan to fix it but if I bought one that did that I’d be pissed. Maybe you can add some weights in the riser but that seems annoying.
Good review. One question , was there an earthquake while you were playing the machine ? It was shaking the whole time you were playing it and you didn’t appear to be playing roughly.
Good review. Between the fake FOMO and these issues, I'm going to return mine to the store. I've had it in the box for the last 3 days and though I'm excited to play it (been years) I'd rather wait till they either fix the issues or the cab goes on discount
@@saynotop2w Not sure where you live but by me these things go down in discount a lot. I've seen them in Walmarts and such for 150 dollars over the years when they're on clearance. Even now, by me a few of them are 300 dollars cheaper. T2 cab is like 400, Simpsons is 300 and whatnot. The old generation had some from the original days for 100 dollars in stores by me. I still wouldn't buy one though. I would rather get a used Dreamcast and MVC2 for like a total combined fee of 400 dollars.
@@saynotop2w I mean just the other day IGN had a link to them having a massive discount on Dell or Newegg as well as Walmart and Best Buy for the modern ones so you were seeing the 599 and 699 cabs half the prices.
I understand limitations on the availability of components. However, you just do not do a MVC2 cabinet until you can do it right. Would rather it be delayed and done right.
Right!? Big Blue would have been the most logical choice for Arcade1Up to utilize for this cabinet release. Blows me away that they didn't go that route.
Great review. After the pre-order fiasco I vowed I wouldn't buy one, I ended up folding and purchasing through Walmart when I saw it was available. I ended up getting mine much earlier than others through A1up. That said and as a huge fan of the series, its not my best purchase but at the very least its a nice piece of furniture and nothing more.
Agree with you on all points. After deceptive trackball on Simpsons cab I quit buying A1UP. Quality issues, monitor issues, design issues, advertising vs what they actually sell have all been never ending issues
Mine came in defective. They are sending me a replacement PCB. My volume also goes down on its own sometimes but also the machine sometimes gets stuck in a boot loop or randomly just shut down and reset itself mid game.
I've seen a few reports of the boot loop and system shutdowns. I haven't experienced those yet myself, but it definitely points to a larger issue that needs to be addressed with the software on this unit.
Excellent review, appreciate the detail and pointing out some rather serious flaws. If I spent that kind of money of an advertised feature and it wasn't there, I'd return it before the window closed also. Definitely need to hold them accountable.
Accountability is something this company needs to learn in spades. They are pretty quick to pass blame onto retailers or other parties. I think they would do well to own up to their mistakes when they are made and hopefully learn from them moving forward.
I will say i like the cab quite a bit and I've been enjoying the other titles online, but aside from the missing mvc2 online the biggest annoyance by far is the company not saying ANYTHING lately. It's obvious this cab and blitz were rushed to start getting to our shores before the holiday season, but A1U not giving a single official notification of the missing feature is ridiculous. I am not regretting my purchase because I wanted this cab to replace my mvc1 regardless so I could have mvc2 and COTA, but after having pre-ordered both blitz and mvc2 I dont see myself pre-ordering any other cabs going forward. This last quarter should have been nothing but excitement for A1U and instead they've really shot themselves in the foot with two of the biggest games they've put out.
Totally agree, their lack of communication regarding this cabinet and Blitz is just plain foolish. Lots of trust and respect could be earned by Arcade1up if they would simply just touch base with the consumers. Yet here we are listening to silence
@@cooltoy this is a known thing with 1Up once things go bad for them though. theyve done this many times in the best where they promote, promote, promote their cabs and then once released and all the issues are there, they disappear. theyve been doing this for the last few years. they pretend the issues dont exist or subtly blame the consumers perception of those issues. when you pay that much for a cab, you have a right to complain.
This one definitely had the "if I have to stop this car..." vibe. Arcade1Up would be well advised to address the shortfalls of their latest products before the groundswell of discontent erodes their market. Most of these misses were easily avoidable.
The misses were avoidable, which is why it is so darn frustrating to see happen time after time with new product releases from Arcade1up. I don’t know if it’s arrogance or ignorance on their part at this stage but they clearly seem set in their ways despite the community speaking out for change.
Or they are just playing coy with the fanbase bc they know they will buy it anyway. They'll re-release a super ultra deluxe version in 2 years w all the issues fixed. Kinda like what they are already doing.
I'm planning to buy it when it's on sale for $400. I can wait. I already had it on my modded SF A1up cab using Odroid XU4. I'm waiting till they fix all the issues that the consumer noticed like they did with the KI cab. Not all Arcade1up emulations are perfect.
Yeah I have MvC2 on several other devices at my disposal that I can play without issue. So if Arcade1Up doesn't fix these issues in a timely manner, then I'll just get my money back and stick to playing the game how I was.
This might be my favorite review you’ve ever done for a number of reasons. But the fact that Arcade1up tweeted your video makes me hopeful that we are getting online play in the next 30 days? Or maybe they didn’t watch your review? I’m going to be optimistic
I would hope they watched the video before hand and listened to my critiques, they have the capabilities of solving so many of the issues I laid out. Fingers crossed for an online roll out and some performance improvement patch sooner than later. This cabinet has some potential to still be great, we just need some proper execution from Arcade1Up to make it happen.
Dang it!!! I have a brand new one sitting in my Gameroom.. I haven’t even opened it yet… I really want this cabinet etc, but it’s crazy hearing all of the issues that some are having… I’m on the fence if I even want to open/ put it together… I just haven’t had the time to put it together… are you planning on keeping it?
I agree I’ve said it so many times that arcade 1 up isn’t that great as the original arcade machines the Dreamcast you can only play online that’s if you own the Japanese version and people are still playing online on the Dreamcast that is I got the Dreamcast Japanese version cause Japan got it first everyone needs to understand arcade 1 up aren’t perfect and are to pricey they need to cost way cheaper
MvC2 stopped working after when i turned it off for a day and a couple days later it wouldn’t load up it would send me back to the Home Screen I had to reset it back to the starting options like I had put the difficulty to max when I turned it off and so when trying to play it wouldn’t work until i put it back to factory settings it worked
I have a serious question. So I have one but if I leave it on all day and all night will my electricity bill be super high? Also the software is really choppy with mines like it takes awhile to load or I have to turn it off and turn it back on for it to work not sure what’s up with the software
yep, side effect of these machines being made with lighter materials and them using the risers still instead of solid one piece construction for the side panels.
Well good thing that I never bought into anything that 1up arcade was ever selling. For this game I had saved my Dreamcast copy from years ago and sticking with that. Also if I want to play the NAOMI version which has notable high sound quality and will play on the retroarch . With that, I can use my own controller, X-Arcade Dual Joystick, to gain the arcade experience. I can also adjust screen size, resolution, Latency, audio sampling rate, Region versions and have access to the real Dip switch settings.
Fair review. Not bashing. Not holding back either. Lol. I think the vid that lead me to your channel was the old A1Up SF2 cocktail cab Dell Optiflex mod.
Yeah I don't believe in bashing things for the sake of it. I'm a firm believer in constructive criticism. Identify an issue and then present a potential solution. Having someone just say a product is bad isn't helpful to anyone if things aren't identified that could help improve a product.
I don't like how the cabinet shakes when you play it. I know they come with wall anchors but I think this wouldn't be an issue if they designed the cab better
The cabinet moving during play 3:15 is one other many reasons I stopped supporting 1up and their products. They look cool in a room but that's about where it ends for me. Great review Doug
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The online non-online thing is the biggest thing holding me back from getting one these bad boys they have many pro’s and con’s but like you said if they just had waited until they were fully ready then it would be so much better and also that HATE how theirs little to none contact w/ the company and updates as well … I’m going to wait until the features are actually there
Well, today is Day 30 since I I placed my order via A1U. And Round 2 isn’t expected to ship until next month. I watched your video on Day 22, so I had plenty of time to cancel my order 😢 already planning on selling it to the first willing person who is a more serious fan than myself, but that seems like an insult. I only wanted it to finally have MSH and COTA since I walked away from their cabinet w/The Punisher for $200 two years ago. But yeah, a functional version of MvC2 would be nice cherry on top.
Good lord it even says Wi-Fi enabled in the title...
I think you’re the only one who actually gave an honest review. Lots of reviews that praise this cab and overlook the cons that most people expected when this was announced. Nice work man.
thank you very much!
“Their msrp doesn’t justify their quality of product” is spot on.
This is probably the best honest review on an A1U I’ve seen. Glad to see you are giving more in-depth. This is from a customer. Not a “shill”. Good work on this Doug. I hope more in the “community” will follow this lead.
That said, you are completely right with every assessment you made on the company as far as product quality and addressing consumers. I don’t believe John D is a good “face” for a company.
MVC2 is one of my favorite fighting games, and its disheartening to hear all of the bad points about this machine. This one was the one I was seriously considering buying and I will refrain from doing so now. Thanks for the honest review
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but glad I could help 👍
Great review. This is the first A1up cabinet I’ve bought in years. I had so many issues with wave 1 that I just left them alone, but like everyone else I had to have MVC2. It seems like A1up hasn’t learned a thing and they’re still up to the same old shenanigans. Either people will stop supporting or a better competitor will enter the marketplace. Thanks for your review.
yep, until consumers force Arcade1Up to change their ways, I doubt anything ever will.
I've been looking into the Atgames legend ultimate. Bout the same price for more games and a bigger cabinet with more features
Its easy to put a freaking sanwa joystick and buttons in them. Hell i put them in a chinese 2 person 1500 game machine and it was overkill lol.
There’s some reasons why I still have the Dreamcast versions of Marvel Vs. Capcom 1 & 2 after all of these years.
1.) They’re incredibly hard to find nowadays.
2.) Those versions are *truly* Arcade perfect (aside from maybe the HD versions on Xbox 360 & PS3, though they’re digital download only).
This is a good, honest, detailed review that you’ve given unlike the others. It also saved me a _lot_ of money! 💰
I have my mvc2 disc on dc but its scratched to oblivion
Glad I wasn’t the only one experiencing the white noise from the speakers on this arcade. I thought I was going insane lol. Great review
Glad you mentioned the BOE response time. Haven’t seen anyone mention this in an actual review yet. Also thanks for focusing mainly on the gameplay instead of the usual aesthetics.
BOE? Binding of Eisaac?
What a great, honest review. I was going to be ready to shell out 600 for this cabinet (being my first one), but this honest review gives me comfort in holding out and pushing away that FOMO. I love MvC2 with a passion and was looking forward to online play, but will stick to my other emulation for now. I'm also hoping that MvC2 gets re-released on consoles, I can then die happy!
Agreed I was planing to buy this for my birthday since it is coming up next month but seeing this Review I think I saved $600 but believe it or I'm rather both cusual when I'm playing buy myself and competitive when I'm playing with someone else so everything you said in this video does apply to me it's really cool that they free mvc2 but in a way we did not expect and that arcade1up got the chance to do it but it's a shame that it's not good man I do hope they make a mvc collection that has all the game that this cab to come out in all consoles
It’s 600 bucks if you want authentic and perfect the restored one is 5k
Super appreciate your honesty in this review and the finer details added for longtime fighting game fans, this was just what I was looking for. This is my all-time favorite arcade game and it’s a real shame this wasn’t handled better. I’ll stick with emulation and the DC version - thank you for saving me 600 bucks!
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Your review changed my mind about buying this cabinet. Thank you!
Glad I could be of help 👍
Thank you so much for your review. It's brutally honest regarding the quality control and most importantly, the review itself is coming from someone that has actual experience and knowledge on how MvC2 (and AC games in general) were distributed/installed in arcades and pizza parlors the world over.
With all that in mind, I am yet again underwhelmed and disappointed with Arcade 1UP cabs. They have not gotten a single cabinet "right" and have fumbled with delivering an authentic experience on every single one of their cabs. Whenever I'm at Best Buy, I'm always eager to try their Arcade 1UP stations thinking, "it's been a few years and I know that they've listened to the criticisms", only to be disappointed yet again with their subpar joysticks, horrible buttons and most egregious at all, horrible emulation on a low tier "gaming" monitor. Seriously! Who at Arcade 1UP approved a 14ms monitor for a FIGHTING GAME cab?????
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Very well balanced review. I still hope people review this after a couple of firmware updates because that will be telling as well. Regardless I appreciate this video.
The silver lining is almost all of the issues can be corrected with firmware updates and this cabinet still has a chance to be great. The real question is just how long will that take? 🤷🏻♂️
Interesting review. If online is your reason for buying, I can definitely see why you’d want to return. I’ve enjoyed the online experience of my other A1Up cabs, so hoping for the best.
CoolToy back from the grave. Welcome back, I miss watching your videos. That's unfortunate about about your cab, the same thing happened to my big blue SF. I got my cab as well, but all I used out of the box was the pcb and the molded coin door. I didn't have any midway style cabs in my arcade, so I opted for a different route. I wanted to replicate a big blue MVC2 as I remembered it in the arcades, back in the early 2000's. I picked up a used Big Blue and threw the mvc2 guts into that cab. I got custom side art, marquee and bezel artwork coming soon. It's gonna be an exciting project...
Sounds like you are making the cabinet the right way and the way Arcade1Up should have!
Great review! I was really tempted to make this my first A1Up, just because the fact that they “freed” MvC2, but it really just looks flimsy. I built my own pedestal style arcade which I need to fix the wobble on (hobbyist woodworker) but this looks even worse.
Also, at 600 bucks it shouldn’t need new buttons, have poor input lag, and game slowdowns. The lack of online when something like fightcade exists makes this really not seem worth it to me.
It does seem to have a nice games list and looks good, and I have read about some updates coming out (cross play between other marvel cabs) but this seems like it’s not the product for me unfortunately.
Amazing review! The most well rounded review I've seen for this cab. Great job
Thank you very much!
I'm here from the future. We're getting this on a handheld console!
Great review and insight on the cabinet. As for the delay in the online play, I was one of those that gave A1UP the benefit of the doubt when they said this cabinet was not supposed to be released until November or NFL Blitz was not supposed to be released until Mid-Oct, so that is why it was missing features and such.
However, I have started to change my stance on this. Arcade1up has to do better with these releases. If A1UP is stating that the stores are breaking and embargo, they have to hold them accountable, but I think that is not the case. It is A1UP sending them out early and expecting companies to sit on them, which is not going to happen. Think A1UP needs to wait before shipping them to retailers if they do not want them putting them out on the floors or shipping them.
I really like A1UP and want them to succeed, but as you said they are 4 years into this and need to get their act together when i comes to releases like this.
That story that Arcade1up tried to sell people about retailers jumping the gun was just that, a story, told to customers to placate them and pass blame. Arcade1up is in absolute control of when retailers can acquire their merchandise. Arcade1up never set street date embargo’s on these new releases, they haven’t done that since their very first wave of cabinet releases 4 years ago.
It’s flat out insulting someone at Arcade1Up would think it was ok to say such a silly and easily debunked statement.
Excellent review Doug! It'll be interesting to see how far a1up continues down this path. To have such rampant and continuous quality control issues, with zero communication (regard for) with thier customers, people need to stop buying their products. I stopped when my Tempest cab crapped out on me 4 times...4 times. Unacceptable imo. Appreciate your time and effort in creating exceptional content for this community.
thank you for the kind words!
Thank god someone finally mentions the BOE response time. I’ve been trying to figure this out for sometime now.
Now I wonder if I can find a monitor with a better response time that works with arcade1up.
There are a couple hurdles you would have to overcome. First you would need to utilize a geekworm LVDS to HDMI converter board to adapt the Arcade1UP PCB video signal into a different monitor. These converters are great when they work, but have a very high failure rate unfortunately. Secondly finding a monitor with a faster response time that is 4:3 is going to be extremely difficult, so you would likely have to adapt to a 16:9 monitor instead.
Absolutely brilliant review Doug. You’re dead on with everything you said. I’m one of the ones who’s a casual with this game and had zero interest in the online, so it’s going to be fine for me.
thank you very much!
Thank you for your honest take on this. I've noticed a pivot and promotion of late on the main A1up channels, and even some smaller ones is to focus on perceived transition to "Pro/XL" cabs. I just can't grasp this as A1up has really missed their stride of late and the last thing people should be doing is looking forward to spending even more on the eventual "Pro/XL " models. Get all the software/hardware issues and inconsistencies fixed. Make Faux coin doors stock. Better QC on marquees. Improve the quality of controls and ensure good monitors. Once they get there, and do it consistently, then focus on making a more premium Pro or XL.
My brother was obsessed with mvc2. Glad I saw this review because I was going to get this for him for Xmas.
Great review. And all good points on the cab. Mine is going to be put together this weekend. Looking forward to playing it.
Hope you enjoy it!
I appreciate the honesty of this review. I'm a long time MvC2 fan, and let me tell you every input frame matters, if there's any lag at all, it's not authentic and should be labeled as cheap imitation or emulation. I had a feeling this was the case, I tried the 1up cabs at a store before with Street fighter 2, and immediately noticed all the problems, from cramped controls, cheap buttons, to input lag, to how small and shaky it was, it felt like I was playing a toy version of the original cabinet with emulation, it doesn't seem like they've improved much since then. Save your $600-$800 and invest into buying a real cabinet or the Dreamcast version for home port, or any other home port and create your own cabinet may be a more viable option than this scam.
Totally agree. Reminds me of when blizzard promised pvp for Diablo 3, and it never released in the arena format they promised. Don’t make promises you can’t keep, especially when you are trying to sell a product!
Very honest review and whata up with the sudden lowering if the volume during gameplay? My Yoga Flame cabinet does the same thing and it's annoying
Thank you SO MUCH for your honesty. You are a breath of fresh air! Your video was transparent and informative.
I appreciate what arcade1up has done by bringing scaled down cabinets for home use, something we all dreamed of having when we were kids...however they are so overpriced. I remember seeing the first generation cabinets in stores and thinking the newer ones must be so much better quality with the price increases and they really aren't. Same thin vinyl that peels up, same cheap buttons. The price just keeps going up. The online with some is a nice addition, and the fact it's not an additional monthly charge, but the price jumps are crazy. First tmnt release was something like $400 and then the turtles in time was way more for the same cabinet more or less. Then stores sit on them and end up clearing them out. I got the Simpson's for $200. I don't think these cabinets are worth much more than $350-400 with how cheap and few components they have. The Simpson's cabinet was my dream cabinet to own and was really happy when 1up made it and even happier that it went on clearance. I gutted it and upgraded everything to make it play thousands of games.
To the average person who can't mod due to lack of knowledge, these cabs will always be junk. I bought Yoga Flame and will be soft modding it. I won't be hard modding it because I want to keep the online play. As a massive street fighter 2 fan, losing online play isn't worth 1000s of games I'll never play. I'm gonna upgrade the sticks and buttons too
Great objective review brother. Sadly owning five previous cabs (and good ones), the future doesn't look so bright for them with their current QA matters and rushing things out the door and FOMO tactics (granted, usual modern day retail tactics) when they show up in all sorts of stores weeks later.
the FOMO nonsense is out of hand. They tried to tell people "pre-order now this will be super limited and you won't be able to get it if you wait". Then it was available day after day at a new retailer each time, and most big box stores have already fulfilled their preorders before the people that pre-ordered day 1 through Arcade1Up. It's always a mess.
Well said about a1u as a company and spot on about them rushing unfinished games for q4 sales numbers, which is such a slap in customers faces. I have 8 cabs but stopped buying once they jumped in price. Quality didn’t get better and even got worse in some areas so why pay more? It’ll take a holy grail that gets good honest reviews before I buy anymore. I’ll certainly never preorder anything from them. This being a prime example why
Great review with many valid criticisms. Canceled my preorder after some early impressions and Best Buy holding off on sending orders out. Luckily this enabled me to cancel my order.
I could have made a entire video on the debacle that was the preorders for this cabinet. Talk about a cluster cuss
Hands down the best marvel vs capcom review on the internet. Great work Cool toy... great work
thank you very much!
Love the review it's nice to see a good honest review out there. keep up the great work!
glad you enjoyed it Tim!
Thank you for doing this video! It was very helpful!Glad to see an honest opinion.. great stuff!
Thanks for the kind words!
perfect review man the flows etc and the speaker thing happened to me so i build again another cab after they changed it tsk your super right they didnt give justice on mvc2 they just want our money they didnt even gave us a stool with that kind of game tsk i thought being developed by justin wong would help them a lot but i guess it helped them a little tsk 😔 love your review hope many gamers would see your review thanks again man 🤙🏽
Loved the review, I always come here for your thoughts on this kind of stuff. My cabinet arrived over the weekend and did an unboxing vid on my channel yesterday. I am currently stress testing it myself and I will say this, this will be the last time I will preorder from Arcade1up. The experience was a disaster and you are right about their customer service, this is my second cabinet. My very first cabinet was the 1st Marvel vs Capcom and I love it but the online just died rather quick. I'm not too confident about the MVC2 online experience either now that I am looking into Arcade1up's history.
I could have made an entire video dedicated to the disaster that was the pre-orders for this cabinet. What an absolute mess
@@cooltoy yea and it baffles me how they are radio silent right now when it comes to the blitz online. So I'm hesitant moving forward when it comes to future machines. I like these because building from scratch is another hobby I just cant add to my already busy life. These 1up machines just made things easier and plus they are nice furniture to make your room setup look awesome.
Always enjoy watching your reviews! Thanks
I appreciate that!
Thanks for mentioning the input lag with the added scan lines. It's really unfortunate.
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@CoolToy, great review as always. A couple of things. First it looked like you had some shots of side panel damage or was that just wierd printing? Second, Arcade1Up's official response is retailers made this cab available earlier than the requested date of November. I think I'd give them until then before I judged the online play. Honestly I don't expect much but I'm always one to give the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully your return window extends into November.
Yes my cabinet arrived with some scrapes and dings on the side panel artwork.
Arcade1up’s official response of blaming the retailers is an absolute load of crap. These cabinets weren’t given a street date and Arcade1up fully controls when retailers have access to their machines.
Thank you for this review Cooltoy. SheLion's review kept me from taking this out of the box and this one has confirmed my decision. Unfortunately, since I bought my product from BestBuy, I only have 15 days to return, 5 of which have passed. They hav 5 more days to either communicate or release a patch to bring MvC2 online or else I will start the return policy. Hopefully the product not working as advertised will be enough to avoid their restocking fee. This will sadly be my last A1U purchase, as I can no longer afford to spend top dollar on three-forth-assed products that may or may not be fixed in the future. Between this and Blitz, Arcade1up has destroyed all their goodwill with myself, and many in the community. I can see why you have chosen to stop supporting and why other content creators seem to be less and less enthusiastic about making content about A1U. This was supposed to be a wish fulfillment company that allows us 80s and 90s kids to have the home arcade of our dreams for a decent price, but as the prices climb and the lack of quality continues, I feel like this might be the beginning of the end for myself and others.
I dare the Illuminati to step up their reviews to make one like this excellent job Cooltoy
Yep. Getting a Japanese DC (since jp mvc2 is like $30-50) and making a home cabinet base instead at home depot. Dodged a bullet on this.
Mine arrived late, and I havent had a chance to even open it. But after this (and other) reviews, I may be just takingbit back if I dont hear of a patch soon.
Great review. That intro is 100% spot on! Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much 👍
This is a very good review! I like how well it was balanced. I'm a filthy casual so I don't care about online. However for those that do this is very annoying. Especially if blitz still doesn't have online after a month.
seems like a wonderful addition to a bar or dormroom floor or something like that...but not a home release.
My last Arcade1up machine was a Big Blue. They never fixed the audio issues despite doing a firmware update, and I said to myself that was the last straw.
They don't seem to care about their product nor do they stand behind it.
I'll be buying custom cabs from here on out. Possibly a Megacade!
I'm so glad that I hesitated to pull the trigger on this cab. This is a fantastic review.
thank you
I’m glad I came across this review before I purchased this cabinet. I was going to purchase this cabinet for the online game play. Thank you for the honest review.
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I appreciate the fair and balanced points you made. Great review. I do have a preorder directly from arcade 1up themselves. So i hope some of these issues are addressed before shipping. But I'm probably in the minority because i already have multiple ways to place mvc2. I really just want this machine for the novelty of owning an "arcade" of mvc2, as i always wanted to own an arcade as a kid. But definitely wouldn't be surprised if many others cancel their orders or return the cabinets and it would be justified. Arcade 1up should definitely do better
Pre-orders for this cabinet are a whole other nightmare that I could have talked for half an hour about. What a mess it has been.
I agree man I feel its not the best but eeehh
Fond memories I have of playing those classics...X-Men vs street fighter..m vs c 1 and 2...gem fighter....pocket fighter.... nostalgia
I really hope them come out with a countercade version cause I can't justify the amount of money unless it's halved
CoolToy,
So glad you got to review this cab! I also appreciate your candor regarding why you stopped buying Arcade1up products. It's the reason I passed on so many I wanted. I didn't pick up their new Golden Tee with bowling game I so wanted, because of the horrible monitor. I didn't pick up any of their 4-Player cabs because the lack of value I feel offered with the low count number of 4-player games on each cab, especially vs. the real estate they take up. I also didn't pick up their Terminator 2 with it's paltry 1 game offering, and frankly not concerned about a licensing nightmare. By choosing a lightgun solution over an Arcade control scheme for T2, made it ripe for additional lightgun games. Since they knew they were going the lightgun route, I would've much preferred another franchise, and fill that cabinet with a large selection of games, maybe 10 or 20 titles. That's one of the reasons I bought Buck Hunter World, after I found out it had a HUGE amount of mini game variety, beyond its main objective games, making the value soar for me. I'm now watching iiRcade closely, seeing what they can contribute to the lightgun space. With their cabinet's ability to download new games, I hope this will be my main home arcade's lightgun solution.
I've been a huge proponent of biding my time, waiting for cabs that really speak to me before making a purchase. Arcade1up has lost a lot of sales from me with their track record of cutting corners and not showing the true respect these games deserve (or at the very least, making them a value proposition for me). I know that won't cause them to lose sleep at night, but if the value's not there, my wallet's not opening.
Thanks again, as always, for your candid, and not pulling punches, thoughts!
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Terminator 2 was such an odd cabinet release. 1 game, and some behind the scenes footage you would find on a dvd from 2005 isn't what I would call a huge value when compared to Big Buck Hunter. Which like you said, has loads of mini games to increase its own value. And to make matters worse Arcade1Up was charging even more on T2 but delivering less than what they offered with Big Buck Hunter. I want this company to succeed because I love seeing the resurgence of arcade gaming, but I'm not going to blindly throw my money at a company when they refuse to learn from their mistakes or adapt to consumer feedback. I don't know if it's arrogance or ignorance, or a combination of the two, but Arcade1Up seems dead set in their ways and doesn't seem to want to change.
Cooltoy,
I think you hit the nail on the head. Change. And real change. Not fake molded coin doors, light up deck protectors, or stools change, but acceptable and decent controls, and rock solid gameplay change. I want quality and not trinket tin signs :) That's why I'm so glad we have competition in the market now. I'm SO HAPPY we have iiRcade and I also love my Rec Room Masters cab and my MVSX. I will always be grateful that Arcade1up opened the door, but if others knock with better deals, Arcade1up will have to sit on their subpar products when it comes to me :)
vgv
Nice thorough objective review. 2 marquee cabs released within a month of each other with ADVERTISED online multiplayer. To not have it working at release is really dishonest, and as you mentioned,the fact there is nothing on their official media is disheartening as a consumer. $600 is too much to spend for an obvious selling feature to be missing. We saw how long it took to get pinball patched. 🙁
They're weird on updates. They did an update for the ms pac man stand up that adds dip switches and a sharp pixels option, but no updates on the cocktail version.
But this coming with online advertised and it not being there is not good. But I'd also figure you could just play MVC2 on fightcade and get a better experience.
I know there are still people waiting on updates that were promised by John D for Pac-Man machines that remove the pixel smoothing filters that were set by default. Those people have been waiting the better part of a year for that update and sadly there is no sign of that ever coming to fruition
Despite the flaws, I've been unable to get a near perfect version going in my modded Marvel cab from years ago so this is still going to end up being a purchase for me. I still have my DC and the game with an Agetec stick to boot, but I want the full package experience without needing to dedicate those to another cab exclusively either. Online isn't a selling feature for me as it does not represent those nights with a crowd of 20+ people watching me and others duke it out live in person. I think with some Sanwa button upgrades and perhaps an HD marquee replacement, this would more than satisfy what I'd want out of this cab.
I am coming back to this review after doing the control panel mod to see which of the packaging material you used. It is a great idea, but you should definitely go with the 1/8" material on the squares and NOT the 3/16" shown here in order to get it really flush. Just peel the 1/8" material off one of the squares and you will have the material you need.
You will need to replace the panel with a wide panel, the buttons and joystick. The stock ones are not responsive enough to maintain any sort of quick play combos like Magneto’s infinite or Sentinel’s fly on/off etc. Combos are dropped all the time for a frustrating experience. This cabinet should have come with premium parts from Sanwa, Seimitsu or IL. I’m a diehard MVC2 fan, very disappointed in this cabinet but committed to making it work so I bought all the replacement parts for another $500 which included the wider panel buttons from Seimitsu and Sanwa high tension joysticks
Sounds more like polishing a turd.
Regarding the slant of the control deck it’s at a steep angle rather than more horizontal, putting strain on the wrists. When the hands rest horizontal it’s more natural, less strain. When playing for a while it can really begin to be bothersome. Is there anything that can be done? I can’t find a solution. No after market deck or diy hack?
When did latency of screen expectations get lowered? I remember when 6ms was enough typically
if you still have this it would be great to see a follow up video to see if they fix everything in regards to audio issues and game play
Arcade1up has not fixed a single issue with this machine as of now
Did you keep the cabinet or return it? Especially after their "update" video, stating they have no idea when they are making online available for MvC2 or fixing the input lag.
I bailed on one up a couple years ago . Bought three cabs from them and it's problem after problem. Screens went out on all three cabs I owned. I gave up. And with the prices going up there is no way I'm sticking with them. I just bought a very nice custom multicade. Think I'll just stick with that for my retro gaming
I notice how much this cab rocks really bad when you are in game play. That would drive me nuts. I've heard to if you upgrade the spring tension on Arcade 1Up cabs that they move all over the floor. Thanks for the great honest review. Just another good example of not pre-ordering an Arcade 1Up until you see the issues. And then you have to wander one day is Arcade 1Up a company that will fail and go out of business.
Yeah that wobble really was disappointing to see. My home built arcade does that a little and I plan to fix it but if I bought one that did that I’d be pissed. Maybe you can add some weights in the riser but that seems annoying.
Good review. One question , was there an earthquake while you were playing the machine ? It was shaking the whole time you were playing it and you didn’t appear to be playing roughly.
Yeah, I noticed that as well
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What a great review, subscribed to your channel now, good job.
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Good review. Between the fake FOMO and these issues, I'm going to return mine to the store. I've had it in the box for the last 3 days and though I'm excited to play it (been years) I'd rather wait till they either fix the issues or the cab goes on discount
These things hardly do go on discount and almost always end up being quite expensive. That never opened box might be 2x what you paid for in 2-3 years
@@saynotop2w Not sure where you live but by me these things go down in discount a lot. I've seen them in Walmarts and such for 150 dollars over the years when they're on clearance. Even now, by me a few of them are 300 dollars cheaper. T2 cab is like 400, Simpsons is 300 and whatnot. The old generation had some from the original days for 100 dollars in stores by me. I still wouldn't buy one though. I would rather get a used Dreamcast and MVC2 for like a total combined fee of 400 dollars.
@@saynotop2w I mean just the other day IGN had a link to them having a massive discount on Dell or Newegg as well as Walmart and Best Buy for the modern ones so you were seeing the 599 and 699 cabs half the prices.
Just get a decent copy of this used on the Sega dreamcast for 200 dollars. Cheaper and even more original arcade like.
Great review. You just saved me $600.
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I understand limitations on the availability of components. However, you just do not do a MVC2 cabinet until you can do it right. Would rather it be delayed and done right.
I have the real arcade board in a big blue version 2 myself so I was surprised they didn’t put it in their big blue as well
Right!? Big Blue would have been the most logical choice for Arcade1Up to utilize for this cabinet release. Blows me away that they didn't go that route.
Great review. After the pre-order fiasco I vowed I wouldn't buy one, I ended up folding and purchasing through Walmart when I saw it was available. I ended up getting mine much earlier than others through A1up. That said and as a huge fan of the series, its not my best purchase but at the very least its a nice piece of furniture and nothing more.
Agree with you on all points. After deceptive trackball on Simpsons cab I quit buying A1UP. Quality issues, monitor issues, design issues, advertising vs what they actually sell have all been never ending issues
$600 for cheap mdf and back aching height even with the riser is tough
Mine came in defective. They are sending me a replacement PCB. My volume also goes down on its own sometimes but also the machine sometimes gets stuck in a boot loop or randomly just shut down and reset itself mid game.
I've seen a few reports of the boot loop and system shutdowns. I haven't experienced those yet myself, but it definitely points to a larger issue that needs to be addressed with the software on this unit.
Prices go up, and quality comes down. Not really good selling points here. I'll hold onto my money. Thanks for the video.
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Excellent review, appreciate the detail and pointing out some rather serious flaws. If I spent that kind of money of an advertised feature and it wasn't there, I'd return it before the window closed also. Definitely need to hold them accountable.
Accountability is something this company needs to learn in spades. They are pretty quick to pass blame onto retailers or other parties. I think they would do well to own up to their mistakes when they are made and hopefully learn from them moving forward.
@@cooltoy they remind me of stock x in a sense of the horrible lack of accountability and customer contact but gladly will take your money
Thank you for this detailed and honest review. I'm going to pass it onto a friend of mine who likes to buy Arcade1Up machines.
Glad I could help!
The high score save feature does not work for Marvel Super Heroes. Bummer....am I doing something wrong????
I will say i like the cab quite a bit and I've been enjoying the other titles online, but aside from the missing mvc2 online the biggest annoyance by far is the company not saying ANYTHING lately. It's obvious this cab and blitz were rushed to start getting to our shores before the holiday season, but A1U not giving a single official notification of the missing feature is ridiculous. I am not regretting my purchase because I wanted this cab to replace my mvc1 regardless so I could have mvc2 and COTA, but after having pre-ordered both blitz and mvc2 I dont see myself pre-ordering any other cabs going forward. This last quarter should have been nothing but excitement for A1U and instead they've really shot themselves in the foot with two of the biggest games they've put out.
Totally agree, their lack of communication regarding this cabinet and Blitz is just plain foolish. Lots of trust and respect could be earned by Arcade1up if they would simply just touch base with the consumers. Yet here we are listening to silence
@@cooltoy this is a known thing with 1Up once things go bad for them though. theyve done this many times in the best where they promote, promote, promote their cabs and then once released and all the issues are there, they disappear. theyve been doing this for the last few years. they pretend the issues dont exist or subtly blame the consumers perception of those issues. when you pay that much for a cab, you have a right to complain.
This one definitely had the "if I have to stop this car..." vibe.
Arcade1Up would be well advised to address the shortfalls of their latest products before the groundswell of discontent erodes their market. Most of these misses were easily avoidable.
The misses were avoidable, which is why it is so darn frustrating to see happen time after time with new product releases from Arcade1up. I don’t know if it’s arrogance or ignorance on their part at this stage but they clearly seem set in their ways despite the community speaking out for change.
@@cooltoy This should cause heads to roll but we all know they will ultimately change nothing. So disappointing
Or they are just playing coy with the fanbase bc they know they will buy it anyway. They'll re-release a super ultra deluxe version in 2 years w all the issues fixed. Kinda like what they are already doing.
Is the song saying “same asshole” near the end a way of telling us arcade1up has not changed yet?
I wonder if you can swap out the monitor for one with a 1ms response time, to give yourself an edge :)
Great job my friend. I appreciate your reviews.
Happy I could help, thanks Michael.
I'm planning to buy it when it's on sale for $400. I can wait. I already had it on my modded SF A1up cab using Odroid XU4. I'm waiting till they fix all the issues that the consumer noticed like they did with the KI cab. Not all Arcade1up emulations are perfect.
Yeah I have MvC2 on several other devices at my disposal that I can play without issue. So if Arcade1Up doesn't fix these issues in a timely manner, then I'll just get my money back and stick to playing the game how I was.
This might be my favorite review you’ve ever done for a number of reasons. But the fact that Arcade1up tweeted your video makes me hopeful that we are getting online play in the next 30 days? Or maybe they didn’t watch your review? I’m going to be optimistic
I would hope they watched the video before hand and listened to my critiques, they have the capabilities of solving so many of the issues I laid out. Fingers crossed for an online roll out and some performance improvement patch sooner than later. This cabinet has some potential to still be great, we just need some proper execution from Arcade1Up to make it happen.
Dang it!!! I have a brand new one sitting in my Gameroom.. I haven’t even opened it yet… I really want this cabinet etc, but it’s crazy hearing all of the issues that some are having… I’m on the fence if I even want to open/ put it together… I just haven’t had the time to put it together… are you planning on keeping it?
I plan on returning it if they don't release a fully functional online mode without glitches in the next 25 days.
fortunately now that Capcom has officially announced a Marvel games re-release, people can just play that with a decent arcade stick
Great review. Arcade1up needs to do much better. I will wait on these new cabs as I have no confidence the on-line will come and/or be very good.
Given their previous historical track record, I’m not expecting online to roll out soon enough, or not have issues. It’s a shame really
I agree I’ve said it so many times that arcade 1 up isn’t that great as the original arcade machines the Dreamcast you can only play online that’s if you own the Japanese version and people are still playing online on the Dreamcast that is I got the Dreamcast Japanese version cause Japan got it first everyone needs to understand arcade 1 up aren’t perfect and are to pricey they need to cost way cheaper
MvC2 stopped working after when i turned it off for a day and a couple days later it wouldn’t load up it would send me back to the Home Screen I had to reset it back to the starting options like I had put the difficulty to max when I turned it off and so when trying to play it wouldn’t work until i put it back to factory settings it worked
I have a serious question. So I have one but if I leave it on all day and all night will my electricity bill be super high? Also the software is really choppy with mines like it takes awhile to load or I have to turn it off and turn it back on for it to work not sure what’s up with the software
these machines don't draw enough power to make much of a difference to your electric bill
Honesty really goes a long way man
I see your machine rocks when you play it. I have the same problem with my killer instinct cab.
yep, side effect of these machines being made with lighter materials and them using the risers still instead of solid one piece construction for the side panels.
Well good thing that I never bought into anything that 1up arcade was ever selling. For this game I had saved my Dreamcast copy from years ago and sticking with that. Also if I want to play the NAOMI version which has notable high sound quality and will play on the retroarch . With that, I can use my own controller, X-Arcade Dual Joystick, to gain the arcade experience. I can also adjust screen size, resolution, Latency, audio sampling rate, Region versions and have access to the real Dip switch settings.
Fair review. Not bashing. Not holding back either. Lol. I think the vid that lead me to your channel was the old A1Up SF2 cocktail cab Dell Optiflex mod.
Yeah I don't believe in bashing things for the sake of it. I'm a firm believer in constructive criticism. Identify an issue and then present a potential solution. Having someone just say a product is bad isn't helpful to anyone if things aren't identified that could help improve a product.
I don't like how the cabinet shakes when you play it. I know they come with wall anchors but I think this wouldn't be an issue if they designed the cab better
The cabinet moving during play 3:15 is one other many reasons I stopped supporting 1up and their products. They look cool in a room but that's about where it ends for me. Great review Doug
Omg, I was like damn this thing is flexier than a contortionist stripper.
@@MrReedEnt ikr
@Show-Me Retro just pretend you're in a boat on the lake, then the rocking will seem normal 😉
@@cooltoy 😂