The Offlane Guide - How to Pick the Best Offlaner
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- In this video, Jenkins describes a formula for picking the best off-laner to win your pubs.
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This guy is a fountain of information. Got 4k+ hours playing dota and i cant belive that someone in 13 minutes teaches me lot of things that nobody told me before in the game or havent seen in it
Yep. 1k hours in the game. Told me how to play more strategically. I usually play pubs, but I just might want to play ranked.
Honestly hours don't even matter, I've got like 2k hours and know the basics but I'm not great or take the game that serious. I think it takes the effort of taking apart the game and watching all the tournaments or watching videos of people that do this and give a summary, not many take the game apart and just watch or copy "strats".
yes i do see the 4 carries that i am playing against and 3 carries that i am playing with
Man you know what the best part about this channel is for me? i am an offlane player and jenkins just posts the perfect solution to offlanes, stay awesome man!!!
This is alot of information. Going to have to come back another time.
This is much better than your previous content. You're putting a lot more work in and it shows.
Love the comment about being motivated for the hero.
Some people are calling for some hero as perfect for the game, but if I have little experience on it and I dont enjoy the playstyle, it will go catastrophic almost always. Only exception is maybe drow, which can can afk farm, but can provide medusa/gyro damage to go 1x5 and win the game anyway.
The timing of how this video popped up in recommended list is great. Proud offlaner here
That was tons of great stuffs to learn! Nice video man.
Happy offlaner/support main here!
Very true about the "being motivated" thing. Quality content. LIKE
Thanks! This really helps me
thanks for the videos!
Very nice info and very nice edition :)
I love playing timber the best hero for offlane
And in meta i seen x panguliar & centaur
You guys been cranking the production values FUCK. Keep it coming seriously
Great video!
I know the general thumb rules about "counter this", "counter that", "counter cores, don't counter sup"
but what I don't know, and want to know is the list of counter, combo, good heroes of the meta, etc (not just few examples like oh pugna is good vs spammer because of nether ward, oh tiny is an all rounder and doesn't really have a counter, you can't really go wrong with picking him, oh picking x is bad in y scenario)
More video's like this please
Picking is really important, i just hit ancient only picking good/counter heroes on offlane. When enemy is meele and no mana burn im going axe, when enemy is ranged i going phenix/wind, when i have cc team i going doom. Now im ancient trash player, and i can play only offlane sometimes pos1, but generally, im screwd on rest lanes.
Hello Jenkins plz make a video on some good offlaners in 7.20 e patch
5:00 He's a big rock man. How can he not be useful? :D
Really good video
Anyone have an actual example of what the journal he mentioned at the end should look like?
i always buy meteor hammer on nyx its best item on him gives him same what dagon but more and a lot of the times its guarenteed that u hit it same with ww curse + meteor
great guide!
just one question non relating to this topic, how do you get the screen to be this large? this seems to be mighty helpful!
Its only on replay or watching other games
nice bro ty for info xD
I think this video taught me I suck at drafting and couldn’t be bothered learning it.
Fog dotapicker.com it works
favorite role btw
Offlane is probably the most fun role to play in dota right now
Hey Jenkins I feel like I understand why certain heroes are picked based on the considerations you talked about, but I have a terrible time thinking on the spot of which heros fill that niche perfectly. I have like 3k hours in the game but I still feel like i have a hard time thinking about the dota 2 hero pool effectively. Do you have any advice on this? Do you suggest opening dotabuff every time I see heroes picked to know which heroes do what / counter others?
Also really good video learned a lot, keep up the good work
i hope this actually matter in SEA server ,where you need to have 4.5k mmr at least to get people that actually care about drafting
enemy has 3 or more int heroes -> pick pugna and see nether ward deal 10k+ damage
Leeroy!! Jenkins...
Hey Jenkins do you think huskar is a viable offlane? I've been playing him offlane and I have 70% winrate in Ancient bracket.
I suck so bad at dota man. I’m trying to learn offlane. I’m a decent support but I’m not great at that either
i think tide is the perfect offlane hero tbh
And 2k mmr sea players dont give a f*** about adjustments
What if your team picks 4 cores that need a lot of space?
Underlord
How to deal with your counters
Well i think this is for the higher mmr pubs like 5k mmr+, but anyway tnx for the video..
not true. Hero counters are a thing in any bracket.
To the above 2 replies: No, hero counters don't matter much in low MMRs as they do not follow a particular meta and most offlaners depend on teamwork which is poor under 4k MMR. You can pick a tanky hero or initiator like Axe but if your carries don't teamfight, that hero won't be able to carry or let alone have an impact in the game if the enemy is much better at teamplay than yours.
Nah on what i have seen in lower mmr pubs, they dont usually think abt counters. Some of them pick carry or midlaner 1st than having pick supp early in the draft.
It's a cool video, but it won't help low mmr players get better because if you know all this you need other 4 guys to also know that,and if that is the case you are above 4k
super mega agreed
No. That’s not the case. In Low mmr brackets, if you are truly better than the bracket, you wouldn’t be stuck there, even if you get noob team mates. Team mates are only a factor once you hit 4K and above. Below 4K, if you are good you can literally 1 man the game
@@chupeem6940 totally agreed,but ain't that the bone of what I have written? xD
Mirco Wave idk doesn’t matter
Helps tho. If you create space for your mates, it's already a plus
Sure i will keep a fuckin journal every day, and keep it up with every changes while playing ranked pub, sure dude great advice. Let's all keep journal and become pro players.
Yes. If you want to be truly great at a hobby, it's going to take a hell of a lot of work. That's not a mind-blowing conjecture. If you wanna do something casually, that's fine too. But Dota's far from a casual game, and it's a huge time sink. That's precisely why TI's always so hype. Most Dota players understand what it takes to be at that level. ~ Jenkins
I remember using this guide to one of my games. Most of the time it works however when I try to give space for po1 or po2. And I died they call me Noob. Dont get it. Btw SEA sever is just toxic.
Just pick jug and press R and win
This is more of a countering in lane guide
My eyes
doom is bad ?
Storm offlane Jenkins.. jeez..
I wonder if this works in SEA
it doesnt because you will always find 4 carry drafts in pubs
Guys how to get higher cs like how do pros manage to get like 500+ last hits even while fighting
After clearing the creep wave go to jungle right away and kill neutral creeps and go back to lane again if you win the clash you can have more last hits cause you are still alive if you die in clash your cs or gpm will be lower cause you are not hitting creeps cause you are dead
Practice. Practice. Practice :)
farming patterns and techniques for efficiency, i guess it just comes with experience.
Thank you all :)
@Francis Vincent Delfin so dude like how to jungle if you're like really weak.. Wouldn't you not be able to jungle then cuz you'd not deal enough damage and have low health when returning to lane?
Axe is the best offlaner
its all good, then suddenly mid and safelane get 1st and 2nd pick.
me in sea server: picking pa as a support XD
The considerations are too hard to think about in 10 min picking. Too hard to think of all the possibilities of different heroes and how to counter. You would prob be lucky to get a good game when you counter most of the heroes as a carry. Thinking about the counters will not always work however with counter items.
i love playing wraith cuz when i die in the middle of teamfight i can aggro all the damage and just keep on attacking gg win
TL;DR Just first pick ogre every match
No mentions of enigma that can eat creeps and deny like a machine, then scale into the lategame regardless of enemy farm, wtf bruh.
best actual advices are:
1) DO NOT CALIBRATE.
2) make experience, with all the stuff you can eventually get from all the videos.
3) DO NOT CALIBRATE.
4) once you are in high or very high skill bracket, consider spamming 1 hero.
5) in the bad case you are not going legend+ bracket, just delete the account and make a new one, and repeat from point 1.
Seriously.
I was an archon once, i recalibrated, and the disgrace is i ended in the guardian bracket.
Once i stopped going mad (i've touched the less mmr that i've ever had, 650), i've started again on focusing, and in 2 weeks i've doubled my mmr.
Now well, the magic happens.
Go, look at the videos, make all the pro picks, the pro plays, whatever, but somehow, you are in a game where your midder just leaves his lane.
Their midder snowballs cuz of free farming, ganks the lanes ---> gets another advantage with kills, exp, and gold ------> you get raped ----> your midder reports you for feeding (while he's 3/4 levels behind your enemy).
Well whatever, "you'll eventually win, the next game". Kappa.
Go on, pick phase, 2 guys argue about the mid, they roll, the other one goes in the offlane (my other carry pos.1 has already firstpicked) and fucks up my lane. BUT WAIT! suddently, 4 heroes start to farm in jungle, just farming, while they get all the space they want.
i could go on for ages.
The point is, this game doesn't give a shit about your behaviour score (it may seem cool), its just a cycle: you get the best behaviour you can, you play the best you can, everythying is fine, then suddently the next 100 games are with mentally challenged people, and you just lose, again, everything. So if you are this much down with medal, just give up and move on another account. Unless you are divine/immortal, then you can easily win games alone (i'm honestly not able to win alone game
Don't know wym by Gyro and Clinkz are terrible heroes. Gyro has strong teamfight capabilities and a good Clinkz ulti setup can force the entire enemy team to retreat
this must be watch to my idiotic cancer team.. my god (support player )
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Why always pick arteezy lol he clearly is not already the best carry out there 😂 I understand sumail but rtz no-uh there is Ana, Nisha, ramzess who can shit rtz anyday in dota
rtz is very good at hitting creeps, just not much else
As a safelane player I will leave a dislike because I know people will rape me because of this vid. :)
God damn it jenkins YOU'RE NOT MAKING MY LIFE ANY EASIER MANNN
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Too much info for this little brain
i rly hope with 7.20 we get lich and phoenix nerfs... tired of this lame ass shit