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  • Elevated explains the thought process and mentality required to win games in solo queue pubs when your teammates refuse to work together or coordinate.
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  • @EFCasual
    @EFCasual Před 5 lety +159

    These comments reveal a strange problem concerning what dota is about. I think playing ranked is about winning. Some here think it's about playing a good game. I think that vein fails if you consider what constitutes good play. I think good play is doing what it takes to win. That includes handling players who are delusional and players with bad attitudes and personality problems.
    Everyone who thinks that it's better to not reward bad behavior should perhaps consider that they are the problem. They are unable to cope with the pressures of playing on a team with people unlike themselves. Teamwork isn't always about reaching consensus, it can be about understanding people as they are, flaws included.

    • @MrNsK2
      @MrNsK2 Před 5 lety +9

      Exactly. Casual players should not play ranked games. Sadly whenever I play ranked I have to play support because 4 carries in SEA server .

    • @executor31
      @executor31 Před 5 lety

      @@MrNsK2 Buy dota plus and play rank roles. This way you can play as carry , just the wait times are higher.

    • @stropex2165
      @stropex2165 Před 5 lety +2

      That's why I wanna boost my MMR to decrease the chance of getting YSP. But at the same time, I wouldn't belong to that higher boostet rank because I didnt improved on the way. As a consequence I lose MMR again. Life is complicated just as like the Ranked System. And no I probably will never be as good as a pro player who could carry the game with no supports. Btw I'm Ancient 5 and I wish I could reach Divine 1 ^^

    • @Peachrocks5
      @Peachrocks5 Před 5 lety +3

      Sure and I can do it but it’s not enjoyable for me. I have my flaws and I know what they are so I adapt my situation accordingly and choose not to play. I’ve got plenty of life battles I’m fighting as it is, I don’t need another in Dota.

    • @AndresDavidCalvache
      @AndresDavidCalvache Před 5 lety +1

      I was going to go negative and say you shouldn't reward bad behavior because we're reinforcing them with a false sense of accomplishment. But you're absolutely right if the name of the game is to win, then just do it. You know you have an idiot keep that idiot alive and make yourself win. Good job and happy games all esp coming from a pos 5 lifer!

  • @junrama1148
    @junrama1148 Před 5 lety +31

    Sea server 5k mmr below line up be like.
    1.hard carry
    2.mid carry
    3.offlane carry
    4.jungle carry
    5.semi supp carry

    • @LivingwithLONG
      @LivingwithLONG Před 5 lety +4

      semi supp carry is usually because hard carry usually dont carry but burden

    • @johnnychannarong5484
      @johnnychannarong5484 Před 4 lety

      Lol so true .. haha I used to think what’s the diff between offlane and safelsne ? Offlane is just tanky hero and safe lane is farming hero

  • @Youmu_Konpaku_
    @Youmu_Konpaku_ Před 5 lety +170

    The more horrifying truth is realizing you're a YSP yourself

    • @Zylosio
      @Zylosio Před 5 lety +9

      Everybody is that sometimes if you don't put a mirror in front of your face

    • @nayrban2187
      @nayrban2187 Před 5 lety

      haha I guess I am a YSP

    • @nayrban2187
      @nayrban2187 Před 5 lety

      I am playing some games after like 4 years

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff Před 5 lety

      Wait, what does YSP mean?

    • @zeroeleven6551
      @zeroeleven6551 Před 4 lety +2

      Or when you realise your entire region is full of them...

  • @sudeepkumar4416
    @sudeepkumar4416 Před 5 lety +41

    In a game, I had ysp clock player... I was Zeus and he was good but solo diver... so i made spirit vessel and force staff to help... saved him near 10 times at last when we start to lose.. I requested to join a gang... he listen to my words and came.. where he was toxic to other teams players... when ysp player started to trust his teammate they will automatically join the team fight..... some ysp don't trust team so make them trust in a team so they cant be ysp next time

    • @dotatipsntricks
      @dotatipsntricks  Před 5 lety +6

      Perfect

    • @muhammadazka9671
      @muhammadazka9671 Před 3 lety +1

      Id like to think that some YSPs are just good players that are too confident and cant trust his teammates due to past traumatic experience ( carry maiden ).

    • @kv1000
      @kv1000 Před 2 lety

      Hmm this helps too...ok theres some truth to this

  • @thetrustysidekick3013
    @thetrustysidekick3013 Před 5 lety +145

    So basically how to play in SEA, got it.

    • @WaifuSyndrome
      @WaifuSyndrome Před 5 lety +30

      You don't play in SEA, SEA plays you.

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 Před 5 lety +5

      99% of the player-base are YSPs and 1% are actual good supports. It's depressing.

    • @bel4134
      @bel4134 Před 5 lety +1

      With the play2win players, SEA is a hell, but with the play4fun players, fuck these YSPs' minds, both allies and enemies, are the happiest moments of their games, and SEA is a paradise :)

    • @vegawinnfield7002
      @vegawinnfield7002 Před 5 lety

      Reason why dota doesnt have any attraction anymore

  • @mirokuaograces446
    @mirokuaograces446 Před 5 lety +18

    10:56 True Story xD
    2 Days ago, I just got my enemy 1st pick Zeus, and last 2 pick Sniper. I got the last pick and planning go on meepo since already ban the WW and no other real good crowd control at enemy team. But instead picking QOP, since she is the hero that can close the gap with either sniper or zeus. And i just surprise when sniper goes to safelane, their post 1 hero go to offlane, and zeus go at mid. I destroy the zeus with 3 kills in the early game, and then he abbandon xD
    So i just realise that the YSP at the enemy team isn't sniper, but zeus. Cause probably he's ping mid and 1st picking, and say "Screw everything, give me mid or i will trhow" and losing. That's a lot of mental damage i guess xD
    Good Content tho, Keep going Dota Alchemy ♥

  • @micrewreef1527
    @micrewreef1527 Před 5 lety +59

    "You either Win to a Bragging YSP or Lose to a Whinning YSP"
    *Finally* A guide for Sea Server

  • @ThebabayagaGG
    @ThebabayagaGG Před 5 lety +13

    The point of the video is your capability to adjust and find ways to win on what you have.

  • @vegawinnfield7002
    @vegawinnfield7002 Před 5 lety +29

    Yolo solo player...literally 90% of pinoy kids in cybercafe

    • @levisamom5069
      @levisamom5069 Před 4 lety +1

      K wouldn't even complain if they were any close to a decent player

    • @bbtv601
      @bbtv601 Před 4 lety +3

      Im Filipino and I 100% agree. Its so frustrating playing with other Filipino players. So bad yet so talkative

    • @johnnychannarong5484
      @johnnychannarong5484 Před 4 lety

      And Indogs too

    • @Malaysian.Dajjal
      @Malaysian.Dajjal Před 3 lety

      @@bbtv601 Tell them to play other game.. Useless cybercafe kids.. needs to be exxcuted

  • @doktorfickle2077
    @doktorfickle2077 Před 5 lety +2

    OOOH! I caught this on the twitch stream! I'm so glad you reposted this to youtube!

  • @yoyoyoufs
    @yoyoyoufs Před 5 lety +6

    I actually did what you just said in an earlier game today but still lost because the rest of the team was tilted and just fighting with the YSP

    • @kv1000
      @kv1000 Před 2 lety

      Lol i m not surprised

  • @reiros
    @reiros Před 5 lety +67

    "... coz they are a delicate snowflake that will melt under pressure..." so true

    • @Black182heart
      @Black182heart Před 5 lety +4

      It's like saying your sister has an abusive husband who beats her up. But just to save the marriage, you advise your sister adjust to his behaviour by going to the gym and conditioning her body just so that she can take the beating from the husband and not feel the pain. Lol seriously?

    • @deathstar6998
      @deathstar6998 Před 5 lety +13

      @@Black182heart Thats a bad comparison and you know it

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 Před 5 lety +1

      Ever been to SEA? Don't... Just don't.

    • @rainexpress5495
      @rainexpress5495 Před 5 lety

      @@Black182heart LOL, that is false analogy, more like in basketball. let Kobe shoot the ball and rest of the team provide support and defense. You can't do any because he got "Mamba Mentality" such like YSP. XD

  • @Hyozanru
    @Hyozanru Před 5 lety +4

    oh for the cherry on top. at the end of the game, most of YSPs would often type "ggez commend me, win because of me". it points out how egoistical they are

    • @beastyrs2890
      @beastyrs2890 Před 4 lety

      You probably did win because of them dont be salty

  • @renzolatorre8882
    @renzolatorre8882 Před 5 lety +67

    What if there re 4 YSPs in my team? Aka 4 hard greedy carrys xD

    • @arvielferrer8900
      @arvielferrer8900 Před 5 lety +90

      u become the 5th one

    • @earldanieltago730
      @earldanieltago730 Před 5 lety +3

      Arviel Ferrer ROFLmao

    • @Unite_jL
      @Unite_jL Před 5 lety +2

      Pick lich. Dominate 2 lanes and buy all the wards.

    • @allenyeoh4337
      @allenyeoh4337 Před 5 lety +28

      Literally my case in sea. Its a 1 selfless support vs 4 teammates of carries that ignores the wards, and go into the fog and feed "support no wards bobo!"

    • @iurydantas4787
      @iurydantas4787 Před 5 lety +3

      To make it better: there are 2 mid because yes.

  • @tengentopka727
    @tengentopka727 Před 5 lety +10

    Make force staff throw YSP in middle of enemy. Bait ha ha

    • @kv1000
      @kv1000 Před 2 lety

      Should just do that

  • @samuelellringmann3424
    @samuelellringmann3424 Před 5 lety

    great concept of videos! Does anyone have a playlist for this? Can't seem to find it

  • @superninjaboyx
    @superninjaboyx Před 5 lety

    I used to be a YSP until I started playing Dota again this year. Two years not playing Dota changed my style so much. I still try to ‘drive’ my team forward by making plays or suggesting what to do but I’m way more diplomatic about it and I know we gotta work together to win. Sometimes you can ‘carry’ as a support just by helping your carries play better by telling them who to target etc. So much more fun now.

  • @toufiquekhan1112
    @toufiquekhan1112 Před 5 lety

    just love it! I need more about these kind of players.What should I do when 2 or more in my team... thanks!

  • @Liquidium
    @Liquidium Před 5 lety +2

    this is absolute classic in ancient, then at the end of the game you get the smug "ez commend me" form your YSP

  • @kembaz1475
    @kembaz1475 Před 5 lety

    I really love watching Dota Alchemy videos its really satisfying knowledgeable and pretty much help on our gameplay. Just giving my thought.. And keep up the good work..

  • @lucasalmeida5790
    @lucasalmeida5790 Před 5 lety

    great video! keep the good work ♥

  • @arnabmukhopadhyay7078
    @arnabmukhopadhyay7078 Před 5 lety +1

    What if there are 4 ysps in the team(some typical SEA stuff)?

  • @LLlap
    @LLlap Před 5 lety

    Very nice vid. more of this please!
    also, i think just a general like psychological help is in order. how not to tilt. i think dota players have a lot to learn from poker pros.

  • @jozip
    @jozip Před 5 lety

    Amazing video really, this is such a good way to act during your games

  • @momohimme9275
    @momohimme9275 Před 5 lety +1

    My games have 4 ysp, or a single ysp - which we support then he dc's late game

  • @Aaron-gt1cp
    @Aaron-gt1cp Před 5 lety

    sad part is, i related to this video as a YSP on spiritual level LMAO!!!!!! but i just played 2 games with AM, one i lost and the other 1 we made a comeback. First game, i realized i was playing hard SOLO and pushingall the lanes.. of course i blamed my team for dying again and again in cluster,,, the second game was going the same until i started joining team fights and flanking the enemy supports !!! You realize your team mates area as good as you and if you have the correct itemization along with tactics you can win fights and games!!! thank you for making me realize this and from this day forth i will -play selflessly and as a team

  • @seallv4507
    @seallv4507 Před 5 lety

    Thankyou, this is very valuable info!

  • @rutherjademarte5987
    @rutherjademarte5987 Před 5 lety +23

    *YSP first pick invoker*
    *enemy picked am*
    YSP: *surprise pickachu*

    • @aaroanttila2537
      @aaroanttila2537 Před 5 lety +6

      gg shit team can't carry you noobs

    • @beastyrs2890
      @beastyrs2890 Před 4 lety +1

      Bruh fck anti mage...he cant do shit to a real invoker player...

    • @winterwarden
      @winterwarden Před 4 lety

      @@beastyrs2890 I disagree. but it is certainly one of those matchups where skill is the determining factor.

  • @flippieswanepoel1506
    @flippieswanepoel1506 Před 5 lety +4

    YSPs I know usually communicate ok, you just cant argue with them XD, but nice video, good advice

  • @GrandoBorbon
    @GrandoBorbon Před 4 lety

    Actually i want my carry to be a ysp than a non faming carry, 60 cs in 20min.
    How to coordinate with that carry when they never listen?

  • @eyextreme101
    @eyextreme101 Před 5 lety

    Good video. But I think it's better if you have sample team fight scenario and explain what a player did wrong or right.

  • @SleepyGamer01
    @SleepyGamer01 Před 5 lety

    What about if i am playing bot but people on top and mid cant communicate and feed then im just ducked

  • @John-wv9iw
    @John-wv9iw Před 5 lety

    How do I change my attitude as a YSP? I spam pos 5 and sometimes when my lane core and I are not in sync in lane or when pos 4 is just afk in a lane or fails every gank attempt, I just get triggered to a point where I cannot concentrate and start making poor choices. The other game we were crushing a lane as ogre luna ( I was ogre) against phoenix and I started stacking and told my free farm 3/0/1 luna to max moon glaves so that she clears stack, she didnt and eventually (obviously) phoenix found the stack that luna didnt wanted to clear and took it all and luna didnt even attempt to contest it. After that I stopped everything, bought stout, quelling and started jungling and got midas since I was so fucking triggered, I know it was wrong but I was just done because this wasnt the first time that something like this happened. There is always one guy who missplays his ass off . After that I started spaming techies and eventually got to ancient 2 where I am at now and honestly playing techies is the most YSP thing in existence but it worked and I had a lot of fun. But I do really enjoy having an organized game with a proper laning stage, smart item choices and team coordination to acomplish objectives, it just seems so hard to do with 5 strangers whose flaws I am not willing to accept since I dont care for them irl.

  • @TroL0iO1er
    @TroL0iO1er Před 5 lety

    In SEA, there are YSPs that shout "Wards?" when the map is filled with wards just because they died at spots out of ward range after diving blindly.

  • @deweyck6820
    @deweyck6820 Před 3 lety

    This. Is the most common experience in Dota. Thanks for putting this up on behalf of all the position 1’s buying heavens halberd so that their position 1 shadow shaman with no blink doesn’t die to the 90% pick Sniper

  • @MrJaysChannel
    @MrJaysChannel Před 5 lety +4

    I did what you said, and I played support to do this - lost 8 rank games in a row. 0/10

    • @nitishkumarmahapatra4783
      @nitishkumarmahapatra4783 Před 4 lety

      coz YSP are not good enough. my suggestion is always analyse the counter support to enemy carry. that at least you can kill the enemy carry till 20 minute mark in the game.so the farm rate of enemy carry is less than your YSP and then only you can win. only way left

  • @wukong5017
    @wukong5017 Před 5 lety

    What's the name of ur intro "song" it sounds so beautiful man

  • @titolessr7297
    @titolessr7297 Před 5 lety

    This video is very accurate and helpful

  • @nareshbisen8638
    @nareshbisen8638 Před 5 lety

    What if ysp pick's hero like lion and try to carry

  • @masteraqua2408
    @masteraqua2408 Před 5 lety

    it only works with one ysp .. how about 3-4 ysp on a team ?

  • @affebanane3039
    @affebanane3039 Před 5 lety +10

    I can't a agree with that video.
    For me it makes no sense to support a ysp. A ysp has bad macro game. So even if you win fights you properly won't get anything out of it. No tower, rosh...
    Group up with the rest of your team and use the ysp as a bait.
    Win the game with good decision and not with kills on the wrong player.

  • @newone9213
    @newone9213 Před 5 měsíci

    What to do when my enemy pick lina mid 35-0 score..when my team pick lina mid 0-18 score

  • @sesiomsert6801
    @sesiomsert6801 Před 5 lety +1

    This is what BSJ in a pub. Well said Dota Alchemy

  • @EbonySeraphim
    @EbonySeraphim Před 5 lety

    I generally agree with the ideas given by this guide. However, I've found it limiting in some games and the full scope of YSP problems weren't called out. I play support probably 65~80% of my games and YSPs and in those games, I don't even really notice or care much about the behavior, as that occurrence feels more natural. The issue is when I play position 1, I often go for the greedier position one heroes and the YSP is far better and more aggressive at taking available farm from neutrals and safer lanes. This video says to be less greedy, but when you're already playing a hero that has a low farm capacity (say Spectre), or is extremely weak out in the open vs a ganking enemy core (Luna) there literally is about zero farm on the map for you. You can't back the YSP up, the YSP demands things from you that won't succeed, because you don't just have a YSP - you have a YSP + idiot (most YSPs are idiots in the first place). YSPs don't usually realize situational things somewhat hinted by this video - recognizing their own power spike and not teammates also means they also don't recognize the enemy's power spikes or that the enemy is simply stronger than them so picking a team fight in a balanced scenario is stupid. For example, a YSP Axe wanting to aggressively push into enemy territory versus an enemy Slark/SF with ShadowBlade. That Slark/SF wrecks the rest of your team except Axe, and Axe is acting like it makes sense to walk by likely wards, not have enough sentries to cover the rear/flanks etc. That sort of behavior/occurrence is basically GG. I've found the best way to deal with this is get the other 3 teammates onboard with your game plan, and be defensive as hell. 4vs5 can win a high ground fight if the enemy oversteps or burns too many cooldowns killing the YSP. Maybe the YSP can feed off of the momentum generated by the remaining 4, but they certainly didn't earn that shit.
    If you really just want to win and nothing else matters, then do your best to work constructively with an enemy on your team. There was a line in House of Cards (probably not the origin of this idea) that went something like "you can only make allies out of enemies, not your friends." But if you believe that part of the Dota experience is impacting the community, possibly making a player aware of their bad-behavior, then I would say giving a YSP hell has some value - or maybe you just get personal satisfaction. I personally stay constructive in my criticism in chat if it's bad enough - this means you don't say "omg, that was stupid" instead say "hey, it's always a bad idea to chase an enemy to the low ground and start a team fight there when we know they are stronger." By that point, I'm cool-headed too because I know that level of mistake is something I can't fix alone. Either A) I follow my team to a team wipe, or B) be the only defending hero left and I'm probably not a farmed sniper that can cover 2 lanes +3 heroes defensively.
    One kind of YSP I won't work with is the kind that refuses to mention the game plan. I can usually look at a composition and tell what the strength should be. Pushing early game, team fighting, ganking, late game super carry, rat/split push etc. I automatically play around that and YSP's usually reveal their ignorance by doing something completely counter to your actual team's strength. So I will usually state what I presumed the game plan was and ask "What are we doing then? Are we all trying to farm and avoid team fights? Are we going to push objectives? Are we trying to let them push and counter them?" Players who don't/can't respond this and instead just say how much you or someone else on your team is messing up is instant YSP, and probably one you should cut out of your psyche. Do the stuff in this video, but I would highly discourage being nice to them in any way, because they likely have cost you the game even if you employ these tactics unless the enemy is substantially worse off than you are anyways.
    Aside from all that, I'll get nasty if the other person decides to be nasty. I don't care to win enough to let some fucktard say dumb shit about KDA in minute 25 as a super late game carry or if I'm playing #6 support. There's a < 5% chance being nice will change their behavior, but the other 95% is them continuing their shit behavior losing the game for your team and flaming others anyways, so you might as well get your shots in and go next. 85% of the time I requeue, if the person is on the other team, I end up beating them because I adjust to whatever is actually going on realizing Dota isn't a contest about who kills who in a 1vs1 matchup, or even in a team fight.

  • @dianacampbell6336
    @dianacampbell6336 Před 5 lety +1

    No matter how hard it is, but playing around YSP works. After being in the same rank for 2 years, I did add up going extra 2k mmr by playing around YSP.
    It's not about being prostitute to someone, it's about admitting the fact that you have an idiot in your team that you have to work with in order to win the game. Once the game is over, you forget about him with +25 points in the bag (or not).
    Question: How to detect YSP in the opposite team? You don't see his communication with the teammates?

  • @lolme2646
    @lolme2646 Před 5 lety

    I am basically Ysp not like mid or carry i do love playing offlane and support (have higher winrate on aa, ww, sb G.magus etc) but what i want is my ally shallow grave me in fight or heal me or purge not run giving buff themselves in full hp and running away even in the gank we could win 3.7k and still climbing

  • @azircharles477
    @azircharles477 Před 5 lety +1

    I am a YSP. I admit I only play carry or mid. But i changed. I now more understand how the game works. In order to become a good carry I should know how to be a good support.

  • @dabuchanan
    @dabuchanan Před 5 lety

    This is one of the best dota videos ever!

  • @MsCounterMax
    @MsCounterMax Před 5 lety

    6:45 I can head EDJE screaming from over here

  • @pixel6134
    @pixel6134 Před 3 lety

    How to split push and cause a distraction without dying? As a support to let the YSP do whatever they want to win.

  • @SiFuNatice
    @SiFuNatice Před 5 lety

    this video is actually fucking amazing, please keep it up

  • @2BearTM
    @2BearTM Před 5 lety

    I find myself acting very much like how you describe when I get frustrated as a whole with DotA. Even when I have a good game myself I do stupid shit that looses us the game often. Normally I can be having a bad game and build utility for the team and still win. I need to remember to calm down and not go by myself or farm when I shouldn't but it is hard to remember in the heat of the moment. Do you have any tips on how to properly handle these situations besides quitting DotA for a month

  • @ejbayabos6318
    @ejbayabos6318 Před 5 lety

    This channel deserved more subs

  • @puteramustaqimmustafa3319

    I'm YSP but support type. I pick pos 4/5 in all my ranked match. I buy all defensive items. I buy all wards and dust.

    • @daliardiansyah
      @daliardiansyah Před 5 lety

      U cant buy all the ward and dust. dont u even know what ysp is

  • @bustedmytoe802
    @bustedmytoe802 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the video. But was the meepo using macro?

  • @LDacic
    @LDacic Před 5 lety

    This is how you want to approach pubs in general. YSP is just a concept to make the video fun and make the "non-YSP" players feel more motivated. Real smart @Dota Alchemy

  • @RyanSmith-mz1rp
    @RyanSmith-mz1rp Před 5 lety

    What if you don't have a tap and your team just sux at coordination

  • @kv1000
    @kv1000 Před 2 lety

    What do we do when theres only walking on glass bc ysp can ruin ur game

    • @kv1000
      @kv1000 Před 2 lety

      We dont have a choice ? We cant play our own game our own role and walk around this so called ysp?

  • @DonaldGaron
    @DonaldGaron Před 5 lety +6

    So YSPs are NON FLEXIBLE PLAYERS (NFP). Therefore, you should adjust to them since you know they won't adjust to you. That's sad, but you gotta do what you gotta do to win in pubs I guess.

    • @Mutiny960
      @Mutiny960 Před 5 lety +2

      This won't help you win. A YSP hates team fights unless they will both A. Get a Kill and B. Survive. So even if you can WIPE the other team by the YSP sacrificing themself so the casters cool downs can refresh he fucking won't. He will run like the bitch he is once he hits half health. Then you're stuck looking like a dumbass because you tailored you entire game around someone who won't even be there when you need them.

  • @bashfulray7982
    @bashfulray7982 Před 5 lety +1

    I ve always been a ysp
    And now i regret it but it's true some team won't communicate well no missing no ward hell like 5 ysps and i always say missing but i rage everyday

  • @Pstrosik
    @Pstrosik Před 5 lety

    Can you make video what to do when 2-4 YSP are in team and all of them type with pictures (azbuka) "I am mid/carry"? because picking solo support and buying all wards (that they can ignore) is not enough. Trust me I have 70% of my games like this

  • @QuahogFlashback
    @QuahogFlashback Před 5 lety

    this is real helpful especially when you're playing in SEA server lol

  • @muxopunkxD
    @muxopunkxD Před 5 lety

    Im playing pos 5 everygame in 3-4k bracket in Perú and Im winning (almost) everygame, just by ensuring my 3 or 4 carrys farm safely, warding for them, ganking, making space and giving directions when I can. So yeah you can actually win games as a support.

  • @SkiSummer
    @SkiSummer Před 5 lety +1

    So often games are lost by the guy farming for 50 minutes on Luna despite being ahead the entire time, they never fight.

  • @willywanker2376
    @willywanker2376 Před 5 lety

    I once played with 4 supports and 1 carry troll(me) i keep on pushing and my team is feeding. They keep on forcing teamfights without me since i always push then farm.but in the early game to mid game, i dominate lol.

  • @zorken123
    @zorken123 Před 5 lety

    The time when the picks look like this: TB, AM, Alchemist, PL and Spectre. Having picked Alchemist first and then realizing I'm the only one on the team that can somewhat support. Game is fun sometimes. How we won that game is beyond me, Gaben smiles upon us all sometimes.

  • @manafon5398
    @manafon5398 Před 5 lety +2

    80% of my games have at least one YSP, I’m so used to it that I can’t remember when was the last time I played mid in a ranked game, (Archon VII at the moment).
    The problem is that I’m so used to playing supports and utility heroes in the sidelanes (I’ve gotten pretty good at them)that on the wild chance of a game were I have no choice but to go mid I always lose that game.
    Any advice?

    • @yanglusang4853
      @yanglusang4853 Před 5 lety

      I never get chance to play mid. . N problly would pick carry once in every 10 games coz all r rushing to pick carries

  • @Quagmire8
    @Quagmire8 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Maan ur the best

  • @vedantbhatkar6925
    @vedantbhatkar6925 Před 5 lety

    Hey this is great!

  • @Justin-un7hl
    @Justin-un7hl Před 5 lety +2

    Sea surivial guide, declassified

  • @britterdayz8694
    @britterdayz8694 Před 5 lety

    Love the outro

  • @AnonW
    @AnonW Před 5 lety

    YSP here, I can confirm all of this is true, especially the not buying dust coz someone else will buy it unless enemy hero pisses me off by escaping with invis then ?ing me then I'll always have dust. Not buying BKB and other defensive items so I can solo kill other enemy heroes, never fighting unless I'm at my power spike and always dying on the opposite end of the map from where my team is are pretty much my default behavior.

  • @LK_tutturu
    @LK_tutturu Před 5 lety +2

    My worst enemies are my teammates and myself

  • @thebest-jl1iw
    @thebest-jl1iw Před 4 lety

    u are better than that jenkin guy, so accurate explanation and clear

  • @maxlarsen
    @maxlarsen Před 5 lety

    I just notice i am a YSP, you on the other hand sound like a great support :D

  • @monicaclinton9680
    @monicaclinton9680 Před 4 lety

    alt+f4 and hit the hub?

  • @husseinjafarinia224
    @husseinjafarinia224 Před 5 lety

    Absolutely right

  • @o-roifrancisco8245
    @o-roifrancisco8245 Před 5 lety

    What if those YSP is 2K mmr below u is it still worth supporting them?

    • @Gomlmon99
      @Gomlmon99 Před 5 lety

      Promising ST4R how have you managed to get someone 2k mmr below you in a game?

    • @o-roifrancisco8245
      @o-roifrancisco8245 Před 5 lety

      +Owen yea coz my party is way way higher than my solo

  • @sombrero8989
    @sombrero8989 Před 5 lety

    one game some YSP spent whole game complaining in chat, that I did not get arcane boots on CM, even reported me for it and demanded rest of team do the same... It was before nerf to aura and I even picked manacost/manaloss aura talent, it was still not enough for him (it was nyx and he didn't have dagon). So, in some games you just can't do enough to feed someones ego

    • @dotatipsntricks
      @dotatipsntricks  Před 5 lety +1

      Why not just mute them immediately and play the game without their terrible attitude?

  • @beastyrs2890
    @beastyrs2890 Před 4 lety +1

    So..my problem is... I started Dota over a year ago...Calibrated to Guadian 2 back then... After that I wanted to learn the game a bit and stopped playing ranked for over a year, just turbo. Now I am more skilled literally stomping games 20 0 with invoker... And now I start playing ranked..Win 10 games in a row during calibration...boom herald 5... okay.... And now im stuck with all the griefers, afkers, people who dont know how to read abilities etc... My friends tell me that its harder to get out of herald and guardian than it is to get in divine..

  • @ginnoji.
    @ginnoji. Před 3 lety

    I manage to let my 4 ysp win the early and mid game and we start winning and guess what pos2 tries to gank near their base when teammates arent there and die, pos3 jumps in to finish pos2's leftover and die, pos1 goes in without realizing enemies can fight and win 4v1 even we are fat and die, pos4 somehow die because cores will blame and throw when they are dead but supports are survived, pos5(me) pinging X mark from 10sec before pos3 start feeding until the game end. This is my 4k sea experience

  • @theunseen1429
    @theunseen1429 Před 5 lety

    what should one do when entire region is filled with the YSP's (SEA dota) .

  • @user-vv9fw7ok9d
    @user-vv9fw7ok9d Před 5 lety

    You've forgot to say at the end of the game report that ysp.

  • @adroitws1367
    @adroitws1367 Před 5 lety +1

    if u want to WIN really bad and MMR matter so much for u, this will work very great but remember babysit ysp only promote more of their behavior!
    if u want to enjoy FUN TRUE DOTA GAMEPLAY with teamwork you have 3 option!
    1. buy dota plus for RANKED ROLE
    2. play with FULL PARTY
    3. AVOID RANK game at all and enjoy normal game
    sea sucks btw

  • @Raechyu
    @Raechyu Před 5 lety

    Im YSP but i buy bkb dust etc but i dont stick with my team even though i only play safelane because mostly my teammates are in jungle or some of them will stick. But yeah it hard to 1 v 5 but sometime 3 v 5 if lucky 5 v 5

    • @Raechyu
      @Raechyu Před 5 lety

      But igot 56% winrate over 2k match and mostly most of them are 1 v 5

  • @crazyhydraful
    @crazyhydraful Před 5 lety

    well i was a supp player always picking cm or ogre, but my carries simply couldnt do their damn job properly, neither the midlaner! So i started taking the core roles like mid and carry, and so my journey of YSP began!! I don't regret it though coz i think i can carry most of the time. On rare occassions, when team needs supp, i do pick them only to swear to never supp again seeing the same thing repeat itself haha

    • @crazyhydraful
      @crazyhydraful Před 5 lety

      also fromy dota stats (dashboard stats) , i am a push player or ptfo kinda player!
      often times, i have lost so many games coz my winning allies are more concerend with ganks n kills rather than push and voila we eat COMEBACK haha

    • @crazyhydraful
      @crazyhydraful Před 5 lety

      i play in 3k bracket, sad life :(

    • @EstiloInAction
      @EstiloInAction Před 5 lety

      2-3k bracket is hell for this.
      Playing in the ancient bracket this happens a lot less.. But it happens

    • @dotatipsntricks
      @dotatipsntricks  Před 5 lety

      Sometimes you support and win, sometimes you support and lose. You can always do better though.

  • @sabyasachiaimil3959
    @sabyasachiaimil3959 Před 5 lety

    LOVE IT :)

  • @jackwhisper9439
    @jackwhisper9439 Před 5 lety +2

    Hi, iam from Bavaria and play on eu west and sometimes eu east servers. The bigest problem i/we have is there is not the same language. My english isnt the best too... position pick does not exist! Most player are ysp cause we cant communicate in any way :( what can i do to be a good teammate and win with my team? Pls help!

    • @arkdesign9517
      @arkdesign9517 Před 5 lety

      I'm a scrub and really low rank, however I get commended by most of my teammates every single game because I always play support and do my fullest to support my lane carry throughout the game. I don't focus on last hits, I don't get kills unless I'm alone and not with my carry, I always carey dust and wards and tangos. But most importantly, I know how to stack camps, so my carry always maximizes his farm. I think that's what gives us most wins provided the picks weren't bad from the start.
      I have no ideea if this comes anywhere near your playstyle, ignore it if it doesn't, but if it does I hope it improves your game.

  • @ThunderstruckElectronix

    I feel that the most important thing to deal with when playing in low mmr pub games are the EXTREAMLY slow pace of the game, i honestly dont know how to deal with it. Earlygame can be really fun! but somewere around midgame everything slows down, everyone start afk farming jungle, doesnt matter if youre ahead enough to push and win the game, they will play on for 50 min. i go crazy! i have to play macro and make plays and contest mapcontrol
    how to deal with that shit???

    • @laneallen3691
      @laneallen3691 Před 5 lety

      I have a joke with some of my low mmr friends, that if you don't buy Midas, u deserve to lose, for this reason. Complaining your team won't push, won't make it happen. Instead try itemizing around the fact you already know this game will go minimum 50 mins.best of luck.

    • @ThunderstruckElectronix
      @ThunderstruckElectronix Před 5 lety

      @@laneallen3691 that's good advice. I have been playing around alot lately, not taking it seriously, but instead trying out new heroes and playstyles that I enjoy, and where I can play the game more to my liking, but within the boring type of matches that you see in pubs.
      I have to say that I really don't like midas as an item, but that's a totally different conversation.
      I'll take your advice and I'll try it out, have a good day

  • @ELgauntlet
    @ELgauntlet Před 5 lety

    I would call myself a YSP for the most part. If I play abaddon offlane, and I see that our carry isshit (like no farm whatsoever at 10 min), I usually build more agressive and defend by pushing trhe lane super hard the 2nd people leave it. You need to do 1 of two things when you are left alone on your lane.
    1. Follow them, so they cant gank effortlessly-
    2. punish them for leaving the lane and push it hard.
    Nothing annoys me more than when the entire enemy team is on the top lane, meanwhile our carry on bot lane keeps on farming like there is other people on his lane.

  • @Dimens1oner
    @Dimens1oner Před 5 lety

    But the real question and problem here is actually the games where the ysp guy gets to play the mid... picks that lane stomper and feeds enemy or just plays terribly even if you secure him opportunities and space... they are 0-6 blame and flame and then just delete items and abandon... but yeh positive thinking and all that 😂

  • @junrama1148
    @junrama1148 Před 5 lety

    my experience in SEA server 4k to 5k bracket. Minimum 2 YSP players.

  • @Klimbo93
    @Klimbo93 Před 5 lety +5

    these are good ideas, but I like more my approach.
    Lets say we use your plan in one of the teams, where I go and support the ysp in my team. That makes my team coordination to work as a group of 2 (the ysl and me) and a group of 3 (the other players).
    In the other team is my plan. Leave the sucker to talk trash and blame (eventually muting him) and then support your other 3 players, which are not going to play selfish/stupid/ragequit whenever they throw, because of their own dumbness, ending up blaming you, the only one that tried to help them have that "good game".
    it is patent the second team will win, the ysl will be of no value at some point, and it can either drag its team to the ruin in the firsst place where they keep betting on it, or you can still be that 4 members team. 4vs3, or 4vs2, even 4vs0.
    ysl do not deserve attention, let them rage, let them sink in the hidden pool and hate not only their dota experience, but experience in life. Leave them losing mmr, getting lp, scale yourself, find buddies with which you enjoy party queue, and live a healty life.

  • @luislazaro1071
    @luislazaro1071 Před 5 lety

    video speaks the truth

  • @maxlarsen
    @maxlarsen Před 5 lety +1

    This video should be called, "What a Yolo solo person is and how to take advantage of it"

  • @DevilbringerGames
    @DevilbringerGames Před 5 lety

    Love you dony

  • @executor31
    @executor31 Před 5 lety

    As a YSP , i agree to this video :D

  • @nikolamilosevic6334
    @nikolamilosevic6334 Před 4 lety

    Problem 1. its no one focus kills,everyone just attack what its closer

  • @notcool4320
    @notcool4320 Před 5 lety

    My fried is a ysp because he onlu care about his stats then he fail mid and he blames me for many deaths

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer Před 5 lety +1

    many just abandon after one or two deaths, they don`t even consider that their teammate probably has 97% of their games played as a different role than the one forced to