Best Way to Apply Thermal Paste? Does it Even Matter?

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
  • This is a long debated topic, what is the best way to apply thermal paste and does it even matter? In this video I share my results after testing 7 different thermal paste application methods so that we may answer these question. I used corsair TM30, great cpu paste!
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    0:00 The thermal paste debate
    0:55 Test Methodology
    2:51 Application Methods
    3:04 P/Dot Method
    3:17 Rice Grain Method
    3:26 Line Method
    3:35 X/Cross Method
    4:01 Penta Dot Method
    4:37 Buttered Toast, Spread Method
    4:56 It Doesn't Really Matter
    5:42 AMD Transfer Plate Grooves
    6:38 Tiny Dot Method
    7:44 In Conclusion
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  • @TechIlliterate
    @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety +360

    You asked for it....NO THERMAL PASTE TEST czcams.com/video/VAh_p90y_DU/video.html Remember to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! Thank you everyone for the continued support!

    • @thefirehawk1495
      @thefirehawk1495 Před 3 lety +4

      Even though the results are probably alright it doesn't seem like you've controlled for power consumption/boost which casts a huge doubt on these results. Plus we're talking about a pretty low power consuption, you'll have a bigger differential with overclock.

    • @westernwarden8758
      @westernwarden8758 Před 3 lety +1

      Cool of ya to add a methodology, wish more people would do this!

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety +4

      @adamI'll try it out.

    • @michalklimek9777
      @michalklimek9777 Před 3 lety +1

      Well, all this may be true for the IHS chips. But in laptops/notebooks with direct die contact partial spread can cause more problems, like not cooling properly some of the cores, or maybe even chipping the silicone with no material in between chip and heatsink...

    • @johancantplay2171
      @johancantplay2171 Před 3 lety +4

      Apply the paste to the ram not the cpu

  • @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
    @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep Před 3 lety +7044

    You didn't use enough paste. I can clearly still see motherboard. Cover the entire motherboard, including the RAM. It wouldn't be a bad idea to cover the USB ports as well.

    • @Olivia-W
      @Olivia-W Před 3 lety +275

      That's considered good practice, isn't it?
      Yeah, not nearly enough paste XD.

    • @dennisignacio5823
      @dennisignacio5823 Před 3 lety +52

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @xav7311
      @xav7311 Před 3 lety +338

      If your pc isn't just a solid block of thermal paste with components stuck inside you're not using nearly enough bro

    • @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
      @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep Před 3 lety +242

      @@xav7311 Preach on. The moar the better. Mo Paste, mo better. Paste is Life. Paste is Love. The more you paste, the more you save.
      It just works.

    • @RemoveChink
      @RemoveChink Před 3 lety +26

      Bro i read that in his voice haha

  • @daoistdvonkarlcat1376
    @daoistdvonkarlcat1376 Před 3 lety +4956

    I never thought that Johnny Sins is also a PC guy.

  • @mabus-armyofsalt9161
    @mabus-armyofsalt9161 Před 2 lety +930

    As someone who has never done this before, your conclusion has definitely eased my mind. Put some thermal paste on it, make sure it's enough, and everything will be fine. Definitely a load off. Thank you for the video.

    • @TyroKith
      @TyroKith Před rokem +4

      Same.

    • @meappeam6917
      @meappeam6917 Před rokem +7

      Aparently putting more than enough can be bad as well as putting not enough, so good luck getting a good balance xd today and yesterday I changed my consoles paste and used different methods, somehow I still feel like they’re boiling :c

    • @TheGameCenterDevelopment
      @TheGameCenterDevelopment Před 11 měsíci +16

      @@meappeam6917 Actually, adding too much thermal paste is a lot better than little or none, as it covers the same area as acquitte thermal paste application, so it doesn't matter that much. The worst that could happen in most is that it goes off of the IHS, which is not bad. Most extreme, basically impossible, is that it goes off the IHS into the CPU socket contacting the pins, though I've found sources claiming that it is still possible to normally run a PC with non-conductive thermal paste even in the CPU socket (this does not mean to attempt to put thermal paste in your CPU socket).
      Though, putting too little can defiantly impact performance significantly (as per seen in the video)
      If you feel as if your consoles are still "boiling", make sure you have a good thermal solution (I would recommend Arctic MX-6 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaught), or perhaps look to get better / higher quality fans that would move more CF/m (Cubic Ft / minute)

    • @goorthiss
      @goorthiss Před 9 měsíci

      I cut PTM7950 from the sheet and do not play with dots, dashes and crosses.

    • @bugrilyus
      @bugrilyus Před 6 měsíci

      no this is wrong, it just cover the whole surface that cpu back panel so all the excess heat can be conducted

  • @jadeddeath02
    @jadeddeath02 Před rokem +145

    Despite this video being two years old, it’s still comforting. I built my very first pc last week and forgot about all application methods for thermal paste… but I still used thermal paste!! And not just a tiny dot either! My heart is at ease knowing I did it right! 😂

    • @drakata27
      @drakata27 Před rokem +3

      Well done bro, I just built my first rig and I didn’t install the cooler properly and now it overheats. I ordere a new cooler and hope I dont mess it again

    • @denks7849
      @denks7849 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@drakata27... why would you need a new cooler??

    • @drakata27
      @drakata27 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@denks7849 old one was amd stock and i didnt like it

    • @danielk3893
      @danielk3893 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@drakata27Yes, it's terrible. Also ordered a new one today :)

    • @prodachoui
      @prodachoui Před 5 měsíci

      @@drakata27yeah same, using stock wraith stealth with the ryzen 5 5600 non x.. 95*C on full use…. it‘s so loud. Ordered a pure rock 2 today. Hope it‘s better than the awful loud stock one..

  • @chrisbarber8485
    @chrisbarber8485 Před 3 lety +123

    This guy saying "It'll be fine" in that calming voice is very nice to hear as someone who's almost constantly afraid to break the whole computer with my sheer presence

    • @casedistorted
      @casedistorted Před 3 lety +6

      Well I just bent pins on my 2700x removing the stupid wraith prism that had molded to the cpu with its thermal paste preapplication like the Thing making a new creature

    • @younos435
      @younos435 Před 3 lety +2

      @@casedistorted must hurt

  • @leafbelly
    @leafbelly Před 3 lety +1041

    Pfft! Everyone knows the best way to apply thermal paste is to swallow a dollop and then regurgitate it onto the CPU lid. I call it the "Feedin' my baby bird" method.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety +279

      That's some big brain shit right there.

    • @Pouria_1664
      @Pouria_1664 Před 3 lety +21

      that's some verge techniques right there

    • @aguyandhiscomputer
      @aguyandhiscomputer Před 3 lety +10

      @@Pouria_1664 You need certified tweezers to apply it.

    • @Pouria_1664
      @Pouria_1664 Před 3 lety +3

      @@aguyandhiscomputer ones that protect your cables from electric overcharge

    • @aguyandhiscomputer
      @aguyandhiscomputer Před 3 lety +4

      @@Pouria_1664 Route the cables with confidence.

  • @MrCroquinho
    @MrCroquinho Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for this detailed video. Since I don't rebuild my computer often, I always have the apprehension of how to apply paste properly. You have settled that matter for me in a satisfying way, once and for all! Thank you for showing me!

  • @melbendigo
    @melbendigo Před 2 lety +178

    Not being a tech person, I'm very happy to find your video, and want to say: Finally! A thermal paste demo that actually clarifies the most important considerations and helps me understand what I'm doing! Thank you! :)

    • @Madi_Ernar
      @Madi_Ernar Před rokem

      There are dozens of the same tests, wdym XD

  • @xX3essoXx
    @xX3essoXx Před 3 lety +573

    You forgot the bukake method that the Verge used 🤣😂

  • @davidjosephjohn8599
    @davidjosephjohn8599 Před 3 lety +393

    Funny thing, I've been doing this a long time but I still revisit the topic every couple years. GREAT video. Clear and concise. Good job sir.

    • @gamertechlive1780
      @gamertechlive1780 Před 3 lety +22

      It's to see if a new best method was discover

    • @nicojoshua9827
      @nicojoshua9827 Před rokem +3

      and here i am again XDD

    • @DainHunter
      @DainHunter Před rokem +1

      Jayz2cents use the cross, so i do aswell xD
      I tried the spred, but bloody hell its messy.

  • @thechillydude09
    @thechillydude09 Před 2 lety +54

    Gotta admire your commitment in testing those thermal paste combos. I was just curious on how to put a thermal paste properly. Now that I watched your vid, I learned a lot. You exceeded my expectations.

  • @Movie_Games
    @Movie_Games Před 2 lety +278

    I've always heard buttered toast was the best back in the day. Been doing it that way ever since the Pentium 4.

    •  Před 2 lety +16

      I thankfully never heard that, and never did it, and never had problems.

    • @RedShark493
      @RedShark493 Před 2 lety +9

      Its about long term usage. The less amount of paste will dry out early. So the best is buttered, not because of temperature.

    • @michakrzyzanowski8554
      @michakrzyzanowski8554 Před 2 lety +3

      @@RedShark493 the paste doesn't dry out, it's pumped out due to lots of thermal cycles it goes through

    • @yuukannagi8704
      @yuukannagi8704 Před 2 lety +1

      i even saw someone use a banana

    • @MinecraftMasterNo1
      @MinecraftMasterNo1 Před 2 lety +10

      @@michakrzyzanowski8554 You mean evaporate? How tf do you "pump out" thermal paste?

  • @TheTechnicsfan
    @TheTechnicsfan Před 3 lety +435

    Facts over theory, I like it.

    • @itsthatYEStoogoodguy
      @itsthatYEStoogoodguy Před 3 lety +23

      Every known fact started with a theory.

    • @xeviusUsagi
      @xeviusUsagi Před 2 lety +1

      @@itsthatYEStoogoodguy aaaand the point of theorys is to be turned in to facts, theorys are useless if they don't get tested and confirmed.

    • @ScottRock12
      @ScottRock12 Před 2 lety +1

      @@xeviusUsagi all theories are Proven. And if it's not, then it's just an hypothesis

  • @sydanasri
    @sydanasri Před 3 lety +515

    This guy is amazing. He also happened to be a computer guy. Nice one, Johnny.

  • @dionmiller8547
    @dionmiller8547 Před 2 lety +2

    Congratulations! The CZcams algorithms worked for you today! I watched about 6 videos straight and then subscribed. I enjoyed your format.

  • @Chefty8it
    @Chefty8it Před rokem +3

    I'm someone else who has not done this and will need to on my new build very soon. Thank you for the experiment! This definitely puts my mind at ease. It seems like there is so much controversy about this topic that makes people nervous that have never done it. When in reality its a simple process and no need to worry so much, just do it!

  • @yudianantha4549
    @yudianantha4549 Před 3 lety +221

    If this guy really is Johny Sins, i starting to doubt that white liquid on CPU was A thermal paste

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety +1

      well he wants you to think that it's thermal paste and not ask any questions and considering what else it could be I am just going to assume that it is thermal paste cause the alternative is just gross

  • @StewiePlaysPC
    @StewiePlaysPC Před 3 lety +4

    Refreshing to see a nice calm paced to the point video, looking forward to checking out more videos later on :)

  • @wootle
    @wootle Před 4 měsíci

    Just came across your video, thanks very much! Im gearing up to my first PC build and this was one of the areas I was just not clear about. Excellent presentation. Subbed!

  • @sunlbx
    @sunlbx Před 10 měsíci

    i imagine how much work it is, thanks for taking the time to inform the people!
    a good video! unlike many stupid shorts on the topic
    you just got a new subscriber

  • @alexdeguzman959
    @alexdeguzman959 Před 3 lety +8

    True. took your advise and worked on my G750 cause its been 8 years past since I bought it. I chose Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, did the spread on both CPU and GPU, cleaned out the fans and their heatsinks, and well running good as new. Temps dropped to 15C, and now I'm happy. Thank you again for a nice video as well with your advise.

  • @rishabh_chaurasia
    @rishabh_chaurasia Před 3 lety +57

    He deserves a like for removing and placing pump 7+ times

  • @julianbuckle5797
    @julianbuckle5797 Před rokem +1

    Good job testing this. I'm about to do this for the first time, and this was very informative.

  • @VoidingNixx
    @VoidingNixx Před rokem

    Thanks for the vid. Getting ready to do a new build and was going to go with a spread (I've used the dot for years), but now I see it doesn't really matter. Excellent examples showing the after application spread.

  • @pj491
    @pj491 Před 2 lety +4

    Subscribing just for the amount of effort it must've took to make this video. Mounting/ unmounting applying thermal paste/ removing it with alcohol. 20+ testing 4 to 5 times Sheesh!! 😬 you have my respect 💯

  • @zadekeys2194
    @zadekeys2194 Před 3 lety +6

    New sub. Great vid, super impressed. Puget systems & cisco all recommend the 'X' method. Used that since about 2013. Long term (2-4y) is where differences will show in terms of temps. This is where using quality *paste* matters. Using 20% more than you think you need (EXCL liquid metal) is a good idea for business systems.

  • @sohampramanik561
    @sohampramanik561 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you so much brother, this video has taught me a lot about applying thermal paste. I also have the same CPU. I used to hesitate to put more thermal paste, but now I can relax and use enough thermal paste. Not worrying even if it spill out a bit. Thanks ❤

  • @FreeaakyBooy
    @FreeaakyBooy Před 2 lety +1

    This is best and most professional video i've seen regarding this topic, well done.

  • @ultraali453
    @ultraali453 Před 2 lety +5

    Love your tests. I remember when I was little I cleaned by PC and took the heatsink off. I replaced it like nothing happened and ran the PC like normal. Didn't even know i did anything wrong.

  • @GeekLevelAsian
    @GeekLevelAsian Před 3 lety +11

    The reassurance that "it'll be fine" made me confident enough to do it!

  • @Marilyncote
    @Marilyncote Před 11 měsíci

    you deserve a way more followers/ subs, bro! Keep it upp you do what no one does!
    Amazing work, thank you for such experiment! ^^

  • @buenosdias8606
    @buenosdias8606 Před rokem +12

    I have always went with the peanut spread method earlier, but have decided to go with the penta dot on my Ryzen 5X 5600X CPU. AIO Thermal Take TH 360 ARGB Liquid cooling is going to be doing a better job than the prism AMD stock cooler. Thank you for this video!

  • @kenji6860
    @kenji6860 Před 3 lety +6

    I just had to reapply some thermal paste for the first time in 4-5 years so thanks for the informative and well made video bro!

    • @Ownage4lif31
      @Ownage4lif31 Před 2 lety

      Lmao I've still not replaced mine after 8 years. Surprisingly temps are still as good as before.

  • @BooDevil65
    @BooDevil65 Před 3 lety +35

    They keep the grooves to get direct contact with the heatpipes, rather than adding more distance with an additional flat plate, as the pipes move more heat, faster, than solid metal.
    Did you consider filling (buttering/scraping) the bottom of the cooler plate just to fill in the gaps before applying, or using a cooler with a flat plate?

  • @colingander7628
    @colingander7628 Před 2 lety +1

    Really appreciate the time you took I was sorta stressing about getting full coverage.

  • @darkify_desu
    @darkify_desu Před rokem

    that video actually will help me. Like, now I don't have any doubts on how to apply the thermal paste. Thanks for explanation.

  • @kiddmode
    @kiddmode Před 3 lety +6

    I thought it didn't matter too much, thank you for confirming man!

  • @jhonmacraimbanajokora8657
    @jhonmacraimbanajokora8657 Před 3 lety +113

    "It doesn't really matter"
    *Guy who is .5c away from thermal throttling (sweats nervously) XDXDXD

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 3 lety +13

      Time to either get a better cooler, get rid of dust, finetune the oc, or any combination of those.

    • @juliantachi
      @juliantachi Před 3 lety +2

      me and my laptop jajajajaja

    • @alexanderciordas5307
      @alexanderciordas5307 Před 3 lety +2

      Funny I had my first pc with 3 screws because one broke, so I still overclocked the cpu from 3.6 to 4.0 Ghz, it would stay 80 95 in games, and in the summer I had to down clock it so it doesnt thermal throttle.
      The funniest part is that when I'd hit with my leg the pc case, the fan would fall, because all the screws were loose so this would happen frequently and I never changed the paste.
      I used the pc like that for about 3 years and when I bought the new one, I gave the old one to my cousin, so he used it for 2 years more.
      That cpu is still working btw.

    • @basti329
      @basti329 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alexanderciordas5307 The ChadPU

    • @TheRealMafoo
      @TheRealMafoo Před 2 lety

      I think what he is saying, is he could start over, and run the tests again, and while within .5c for all of them, the "winner" is random.

  • @undertaker6fd
    @undertaker6fd Před rokem +1

    I really appreciate your video. I'm building myself a higher end gaming PC and it's sitting on my counter waiting for me to install the cooler. I wasn't sure which method to use so I've been searching for a while. I'm definitely more comfortable, I can go down and actually finish the build

  • @tobyreinhardt9022
    @tobyreinhardt9022 Před rokem

    I'm working on first build and I needed to know this. Thanks!

  • @Vektor.666
    @Vektor.666 Před 3 lety +3

    Very nice video, perfectly directed and edited. This guy has talent.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety +2

      Much appreciated! Thank you for the kind words.

  • @xudusgaming1778
    @xudusgaming1778 Před 3 lety +11

    This is awesome man. Thanks. I subbed and followed your twitter 🥰

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you kindly. Reminds me I need to tweet more often!

  • @sgtbreacher9390
    @sgtbreacher9390 Před rokem

    This video made me subscribe to you. Short, useful information, no blah, blah for 30 minutes. Practical.

  • @deenoswasss
    @deenoswasss Před rokem +1

    Great video, Nick thanks so much. Cleaned my PC and forgot to use thermal paste wanted to refresh myself on application method.

  • @ignaciohidalgo2521
    @ignaciohidalgo2521 Před 2 lety +19

    love how you make the video and use the scientific the method to compare the different ways to apply the thermal paste. However I think that we should also consider the long term repercusion of each method. Maybe the thermal paste gets wasted earlier if you use the dot application rather than the 5 dots or something like that. Again, great video!

  • @EdRushman
    @EdRushman Před 3 lety +15

    This is how to do science, with great interpretation of results. Well done!

  • @rknine7998
    @rknine7998 Před 2 lety +2

    My question was for the first test of the big thermal dot and the pea-sized thermal dot at the last test. Thank you for answering it.

  • @dirkdiggler1254
    @dirkdiggler1254 Před rokem

    Thank you very much for this insightful investigation. I helped a lot to disperse doubt how to properly apply thermal paste on my cpu.

  • @hjjr-se5jv
    @hjjr-se5jv Před 3 lety +33

    As long as you use enough paste to cover the cpu without the paste running down onto the motherboard
    it really doesn't matter what method you use. What does matter is the more even the pressure applied
    as you secure the cooler to the motherboard, the more even the thermal paste spread will be....

    • @paulf1071
      @paulf1071 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, too much heatsink paste on the die could be worse than too little. I normally swivel the heatsink back and forth before clamping it down. I think this helps spread out the paste a little better.

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 Před 2 lety +2

    I used a pea on a 5600g. I was testing parts, and the spread was fantastic using older cooler with the copper slug. Given the 5600g is a monolithic die it had great coverage.

  • @Seby-biketrial
    @Seby-biketrial Před 6 měsíci +1

    GREAT video thanks for sharing! I was wondering which method is better (thinking it might make big difference). I love when people DO & test not just imagine things and infinitely debate by just an opinion. SO now we can play and spread our thermal butter whatever way we feel like that day :)))

  • @jimmybrannan7303
    @jimmybrannan7303 Před rokem +1

    I had never thought of or seen the buttered toast method before and like that one the best and use it with no worries on all my installs from now on. I don't use that much pressure with a card like you did to let the plate pressure work out the excess and it works very well.

  • @Raintiger88
    @Raintiger88 Před 3 lety +87

    I'm an electrical engineer with over 25 years of experience (with power semiconductors). Simply put, use what you can control. In the case of a CPU, you can control what Nick calls (or perhaps someone else) "buttered toast" - this is the only way you can be reasonably certain (Schrödinger's paste?) is the cover the IHS and be certain the when you tighten down the water block/air cooler with *EVEN* pressure. PERIOD!

    • @katietree4949
      @katietree4949 Před 2 lety +1

      From someone whom works in the IT space (25 years), I ALWAYS spread the thermal paste over the entire IHS.

    • @madmad8582
      @madmad8582 Před 2 lety

      I hate Electrical Engineer's ,just kidding I use to wire House's back in the day. so what's a Electrical Engineer doing playing around with Electronics and CPU paste And semi Conductor's , Maybe you like Tesla Coil's for Breakfast , I don t know , probably not . LOL

    • @Raintiger88
      @Raintiger88 Před 2 lety +1

      @@madmad8582 Power semiconductors like SCRs/IGBTs/GTOs/Diodes, etc. Mostly for robotics, AC & DC drives and high current applications like plating. Playing with computers is just a by-product of industrial automation which is what I've done most of my life.

    • @jordanjeanette7672
      @jordanjeanette7672 Před 2 lety +2

      Hi, manufacturer of these materials here, cover the motherfucker. That's what it's made for.

    • @kobi2024
      @kobi2024 Před 2 lety

      I am a rocket scientist and before that I was a brain surgeon.
      I'd say 2 bottles of thermal paste will do, you want it to be as cool as possible, the motherboard wouldn't mind either.

  • @michelmeyran1077
    @michelmeyran1077 Před 3 lety +38

    it used to be much more important in the days of the original Athlon and Pentium 2/3 when you'd put the cooler directly in contact with the silicon - the risk of creating an air bubble and then have that area of the chip overheating were high. Ever since most chips started coming with a heat spreader, the risk has gone down.

    • @948320z
      @948320z Před rokem

      Oh I remember those little protruded "mirror" thing! Those were a PITA.

    • @LprogressivesANDliberals
      @LprogressivesANDliberals Před rokem

      Ogs unite 💯💯💯

    • @knightwolf200612
      @knightwolf200612 Před rokem

      Not to forget the risk of damaging the edges of the silicon during mounting of the cooler :)
      Btw, graphic cards are still bare silicon, but I never had issues with it. Repasted my Gpu yesterday.

    • @michelmeyran1077
      @michelmeyran1077 Před rokem +3

      @@knightwolf200612 true... somewhat. You'll notice that most GPU dies are surrounded by a spacer to prevent MOST (not all) damage.

    • @chrislemery8178
      @chrislemery8178 Před 8 měsíci

      Remember the copper shims? Eeek. I had to clean a die with rubbing alcohol before, wouldn't boot. I was so relieved when it worked.

  • @autofctrl
    @autofctrl Před 2 lety +2

    You just crushed thousands of videos regarding thermal past application.
    Great content!!

  • @mintgreen292
    @mintgreen292 Před 2 lety +1

    This is so clear and to the point I am so grateful.

  • @CSGhostAnimation
    @CSGhostAnimation Před 3 lety +245

    you underestimate how much I min max my shit in every video game I play and I will absolutely be using the Penta Dot method and I will stab people without warning in its defense

    • @xPathettic
      @xPathettic Před 3 lety +4

      Dumb.

    • @vulnerablerummy
      @vulnerablerummy Před 3 lety +67

      @@xPathettic stop introducing yourself

    • @xPathettic
      @xPathettic Před 3 lety +1

      @@vulnerablerummy That was creative.
      "It doesn't matter how you put the thermal paste on there.." - everybody

    • @pastelcastiel1481
      @pastelcastiel1481 Před 2 lety +6

      If you really wanna get min max, you should use thermal epoxy instead of paste

    • @ThylineTheGay
      @ThylineTheGay Před 2 lety +23

      @@pastelcastiel1481 Just weld the cpu to the cooler

  • @kevenharvey9711
    @kevenharvey9711 Před 3 lety +10

    I do a % sign, a thin diagonal line with a dot in the 2 empty corners, pretty foolproof way to get a good result.

  • @KINGFLX
    @KINGFLX Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Nick, very thorough excellent production. 10/10

  • @henryhonglee
    @henryhonglee Před rokem

    This video is just great.....I've seen some weird thermal paste masters who say you must do this way and must not on the other way. Your conclusion, it doesn't matter if pasted enough, relieved my mind. Thank you so much!

  • @josephm3615
    @josephm3615 Před 3 lety +10

    Stumbled across this video right before first build. 5900x idles at 33-39c thanks for the video. Subbed and continued success man.

  • @alphabanks
    @alphabanks Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for taking the time to put this together

  • @LucasRocha013
    @LucasRocha013 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for that, it was exactly what I was looking for!

  • @ohnoes9799
    @ohnoes9799 Před rokem

    You've put my mind at ease. as long as there's something on there it'll be right

  • @michaelgilbert9935
    @michaelgilbert9935 Před 3 lety +150

    The only thing I find truly remarkable about this is the number of times you uninstall and reinstall your cooler without praying to god that the computer will turn back on

    • @lateksipumppu
      @lateksipumppu Před 3 lety +18

      I mean what could go wrong tho

    • @archygrey9093
      @archygrey9093 Před 3 lety +7

      I'd understand if it was a laptop being constantly taken apart but he's only removing the cooler on this

    • @phatman808
      @phatman808 Před 3 lety +10

      Mike what... what are you doing when you take your cooler off? What have you seen???

    • @DedeJasindra
      @DedeJasindra Před 3 lety +10

      @@phatman808 he's seen enough

    • @younos435
      @younos435 Před 3 lety +1

      @@phatman808 he’s seen enough leave him poor guy

  • @Bige4u
    @Bige4u Před 3 lety +4

    I prefer the "X" method on newer CPUs..... but i do remember the times i would thinly spread the thermal paste over entire IHS on P4 cpus. That method provided so much suction between the cpu and heatsink, the cpu would actually get pulled from its socket because it stuck to the heatsink.

  • @Tee_Jay_Seas
    @Tee_Jay_Seas Před 7 měsíci

    Interesting video. I don't want my rig running too high of a fever. Thanks for shedding light on the subject. ✌🏻

  • @lakeimaging7062
    @lakeimaging7062 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for doing this - very thorough!

  • @Andy-hi9do
    @Andy-hi9do Před 3 lety +6

    I been using a thin spread style since 360 RROD days, you had to apply it directly on the die. Just makes me sleep better at night knowing evey nano meter has some thermal paste crammed in there.

  • @muzwakai
    @muzwakai Před 2 lety +6

    I found it good to fill the gaps or grooves between the heatpipes on the cooler (GPU), then the the butter method on the GPU. Otherwise it probably wont fill the grooves, depending on the cooler if there actually are grooves...

  • @JohnathanTu-ml8ui
    @JohnathanTu-ml8ui Před rokem +1

    very informative. I do the butter toast method. Since I've been taught this way back in 1998.

  • @TUBEED00
    @TUBEED00 Před rokem +2

    I watched 5 videos about this topic in a row and your video was the only on convincing. A lot of people, a lot of opinions, only one guy approving his methods. Good job 🙂

  • @scarletspidernz
    @scarletspidernz Před 3 lety +108

    The issue here being long term when the thermal starts to dry up (especially with cheap/crappy thermal pastes).
    Penta Dot/Butter Toast method means more contact points so would probably be more reliable in the long term.

    • @StarmenRock
      @StarmenRock Před 2 lety +1

      Oh, absolutely. Penta dot is my go to for most clients, since it usually lasts almost 6 months more than single dot.

    • @StarmenRock
      @StarmenRock Před 2 lety +14

      @@KevinJDildonik only the 1% can upgrade their pcs all the time or at least less than twice a decade. Not everyone is an american video editor with disposable income.

    • @owo1744
      @owo1744 Před 2 lety +10

      @@StarmenRock Bro, anyone with a proper job can upgrade their PC almost all the time, atleast once per month, and still afford all the bills.

    • @delta9554
      @delta9554 Před rokem

      @@KevinJDildonik I was gonna say it’s not an expensive or difficult process you probably still have 19/20ths of a tube from when you built the thing just redo it if your temps start creeping that’s always worked for me

    • @delta9554
      @delta9554 Před rokem

      @@StarmenRock if you built it, you definitely did not use an entire tube of thermal paste. Just unscrew the cooler clean everything up and reapply. If you have the tube from when you built the computer then it’s literally free to do this

  • @JMFSpike
    @JMFSpike Před rokem +12

    Just bought some thermal paste and was wondering about this. Very interesting to see that it makes almost zero difference how it's applied as long as you're using enough of it. Spreading in out across the entire CPU certainly seems like it would be the best way though as it's the most logical, although perhaps you'd want just a little bit more in the center for optimal effect if you're really obsessed with getting that extra less then one degree cooler, lol.

    • @zxcv97
      @zxcv97 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Thinly Spread it first then do dot/pea at the middle works well for me.

    • @amandagardner565
      @amandagardner565 Před 8 měsíci

      @@zxcv97 i've always used the buttered bread method, i'll add the pea in the middle.
      i had the pump die on my water cooled computer last week, due to the thin thermaltake cpu block being blocked.
      i have some proper coolant in the mail, and a newer cpu block for my old 1155 m/b.

  • @bhosterman
    @bhosterman Před 2 lety

    Really appreciate your presentation style and down to earth conclusions.

  • @hiob8566
    @hiob8566 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool video. Very informative and funny in a way too 👍🏻 Thanks for this.

  • @Tate525
    @Tate525 Před 3 lety +54

    Lord Johnny Sins with his thermal paste tips lmao !

  • @DVineMe
    @DVineMe Před 2 lety +4

    I used to spread it out (and I've never bought thermal paste that didn't come with a spetula, so it made sense), but I switched to the dot because it's less work and makes no difference.
    However, given that I'm currently reinstalling the slightly bigger brother of your test CPU I might try the penta dot for a change.

  • @datusakurjulkipli2875
    @datusakurjulkipli2875 Před rokem +1

    thank you so much for the idea i've already apply the drop method to my cpu cafe Godbless

  • @NukeSpeeD
    @NukeSpeeD Před 2 lety +1

    Tu vídeo me quitó muchas dudas! Muchas gracias. Saludos desde Lima Perú

  • @gothboy77z
    @gothboy77z Před 3 lety +6

    the best method is a thin layer specifically covering the die of the cpu, when you put the heat sink on it should spread almost to the edges of the cpu without seeping through

    • @LC-hd5dc
      @LC-hd5dc Před 2 lety

      @Keebine Kobold well it's not the "best" in terms of thermal performance, since any method with enough paste will work fine. but it might be the best in terms of using as little paste as possible, getting a consistent application, all without sacrificing performance.
      a novice may not realise they didn't put enough paste if they use another method, but if they use the buttered toast method it will be very obvious when there's not enough. for someone proficient, yeah it doesn't matter bc they have an idea of how much to use and they know to ensure even mounting pressure

  • @serhan2480
    @serhan2480 Před 3 lety +3

    Appriciate the effort,thank you a lot.

  • @smgsngon5804
    @smgsngon5804 Před 2 lety

    thanks for the post sir, I was concerned that I did not apply enough thermal paste on my machine. Even contemplating buying some more thermal paste and redoing it. My application looks like one of the methods you tested, and then I was convinced.

  • @arnaldoarcay1310
    @arnaldoarcay1310 Před rokem

    Hahahahaha, first time I see one of your videos and immediately clicked on LIKE and SUBSCRIBE... your sponsor said it all. LOL, great video... you the best.

  • @Templarspartan
    @Templarspartan Před 10 měsíci +4

    I think the take away from this is that the plates are probably several sizes bigger than what they actually need to be so that they have a large enough area to accomodate the different amount of paste being applied to each model. Also the thermal conductivity of the paste is probably large enough for small variations in the cross section area to be negligible.

  • @the_zewz
    @the_zewz Před 3 lety +3

    Great video. I'm looking to replace the H150 Corsair Capellix 360mm AIO pre-applied thermal paste for the Kryonaut thermal and wanted to see what the best method of application for my Ryzen 5900x was. This answered a lot of questions! I will likely go with the Penta dot or X Method, I'm too nervous to do the spread method.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety +1

      The spread is easier than it looks. Though like I mentioned in the video, my results showed that it made no difference. Good luck! May your temps be low and your FPS high.

    • @the_zewz
      @the_zewz Před 3 lety +1

      @@TechIlliterate With this and your previous guide where you show how to clean the thermal for dummies you gained my sub. Looking forward to your future vids. Thank you!

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  Před 3 lety

      @@the_zewz No, thank you!

  • @dogfather68
    @dogfather68 Před rokem +1

    Great review and tests. I have always wondered for many years, how much or too little affected the CPU.

  • @scpredacted8096
    @scpredacted8096 Před rokem

    Very useful, thanks for doing all that testing that I would be too lazy to do.

  • @Zarathustra-H-
    @Zarathustra-H- Před rokem +6

    Probably also depends on the paste. Some pastes are more viscous than others and may not spread out as well under the pressure from the heatsink and may actually benefit from the "buttered toast" method.

    • @nate_river_
      @nate_river_ Před 9 měsíci +1

      I always used to use it for Arctic Silver. I seem to remember it was their suggested method, and it was one of the thicker pastes I've encountered. Part of it might be down to the fact that the paste was conductive; if you pre-spread it, then there's less risk of going wrong.

  • @halrichard1969
    @halrichard1969 Před 2 lety +9

    Ok I applaud you for taking the time to do this test. It certainly is a help. Personally I have been building PC since 98'. Been using the Butter Spread since 2003. The only diff is that I put masking tape around the edge of the CPU approx 1/8" overlap, all around, onto the die surface. Then apply a bit of paste onto the die. Spread with a credit card or plastic always keeping the edges of the card on the tape. Simply remove the masking tape when finished. In this way you can have a very uniform result without too much overkill on the paste. I have always had great results. Again, thank you for your time.

  • @booga2059
    @booga2059 Před rokem

    Great video, thank you. Before I had an AIO I had a Titan Fenrir which had heat pipes that directly in contact with the CPU much like your cooler. I noticed the small ridges in the surface so as well as buttering the CPU's toast I spread a thin layer on the cooler base plate; the idea being the paste would get in to the cracks and get rid of any air that may get trapped. No idea if it actually made any difference, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. I'll definitely be using the buttered toast with a blob of jam on top, as suggested in your other video.

  • @DigitalPistonOfficial
    @DigitalPistonOfficial Před rokem +2

    Thanks Brother, this really eased my nerves about doing this for the first time!

  • @cheezyfriez12
    @cheezyfriez12 Před rokem +3

    For beginners, I would probably reccomend the spread method, I feel as if that would help people get used to how much they actually need

  • @m.-avigneault2452
    @m.-avigneault2452 Před 3 lety +22

    Very interesting! I was looking exactly for this. Having done thermodynamics courses, we learned the reasons and mathematics for thermal paste between heat sources and heat sink components. It would, in theory, be best to have the smallest layer possible spread out evenly. It was nice to see the results of a real-life test. I appreciate your commitment to this.
    -- Some explainations
    Well, we really just want the paste to fill the nanoscopic holes between our two metal planes. If the metal surfaces were perfectly smooth, there would be no paste needed, the paste is an awful heat conductor, it is just there to replace the pockets of air, which are even worse conductors. So the tiniest layer, spread out evenly will most likely work best, because the surface roughness on the processor top and a heatsink are very small, so a very thin layer will be sufficient to fill those holes. And you want it everywhere, so it fills the imperfection wherever it is.
    Moreover, What really matters, is the type of paste. There are multiple high thermal conductivity pastes, but they are very dangerous to work with, because they are electrically conductive, so watchout!

    • @lululock
      @lululock Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you. I always says that and everybody is mocking me because it takes much more time to complete the application. But it saves paste too and is overall a better way to apply thicker pastes.

    • @rogerwilco8146
      @rogerwilco8146 Před 2 lety +1

      thats exactly what works best

    • @serdareski3325
      @serdareski3325 Před 2 lety

      so you talking about the butter technique, right? And do you mean "thin" layer by saying "small", or "small" as in area of application....

    • @boeing757pilot
      @boeing757pilot Před rokem +1

      @@serdareski3325 He's talking about the "butter technique," a thin layer across the face of the CPU...

  • @jasabasenara8124
    @jasabasenara8124 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant video. Just what I needed. 🙏

  • @MrSomesayso
    @MrSomesayso Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video. Precise and entertaining!

  • @jayireland561
    @jayireland561 Před 3 lety +3

    I personally do my own method "The spread x dot combo". This way the entire heat spreader is covered and the extra dot will prevent any air bubbles from getting trapped from a potential concave in the heat spreader.

  • @The_Allstar
    @The_Allstar Před 3 lety +4

    I'm the "slim smaller rectangle" guy.
    The die is well covered and the excess paste is getting pushed to the sides, but not over the edge.

  • @Grinder819
    @Grinder819 Před rokem +1

    Hey Bud, just for your intro, I'm subbing... lol. Looking at your content, I'll be here a while. Thanks for all the great advice!!!

    • @Grinder819
      @Grinder819 Před rokem

      Plus I just rewinded and paused and saw you had a free coffee on that sucka. If you still got it I'm sure they wont know, lol. Come on man free coffee then make an other great vid. Peace lol