Thermal Paste Application Methods - Which one is best? - The Workshop

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  • Will your thermal paste application method impact your CPU temperatures?
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  • @JVIPER88
    @JVIPER88 Před 8 lety +4052

    My takeaway from "The Workshop" videos so far: Nothing really matters. Everything is the same. Choice is an illusion. Life has no meaning.

  • @Relmono
    @Relmono Před 6 lety +2878

    7:52 ... there I just saved you 10 minutes.

    • @kamalhm-dev
      @kamalhm-dev Před 5 lety +30

      thanks dude

    • @Efreeti
      @Efreeti Před 5 lety +144

      Actually I think you saved me at most 7 minutes 52 seconds.

    • @cheesecat3167
      @cheesecat3167 Před 5 lety +5

      thanks

    • @MiguelRPD
      @MiguelRPD Před 5 lety +23

      In other words just use the pea method so it spreads evenly and be done with it.

    • @Alexscended
      @Alexscended Před 5 lety +10

      I need him to look into my eyes say every method has the same result damnit!!

  • @Yosu_115
    @Yosu_115 Před 4 lety +616

    1:57 Dot
    3:02 Line
    3:46 X
    4:33 Spiral
    5:16 Too Little
    5:38 Too Much
    6:55 Spread
    Have a great day !
    (We are not gonna talk about this comment being 3 years late)

    • @knownasmoura9292
      @knownasmoura9292 Před 4 lety +13

      Thanks, hero.

    • @jacobstienecker
      @jacobstienecker Před 4 lety +4

      I’m three months late bro

    • @TONI-bi1lg
      @TONI-bi1lg Před 4 lety +3

      Why is your comment 3 years later?

    • @Thedeekss
      @Thedeekss Před 3 lety +2

      THANK YOU.

    • @Bielbo
      @Bielbo Před 3 lety +3

      What about me commenting on your comment a year after you did... I think that makes me 4 years later haha!

  • @Bulletcore
    @Bulletcore Před 7 lety +2494

    I tried the pee method but I is hard to just hit the CPU.

    • @onexlifeonly132
      @onexlifeonly132 Před 7 lety +111

      Bulletcore lol, have someone with steadier hands help!

    • @zombieregime
      @zombieregime Před 7 lety +86

      If I hold the base, the tip whips around. If i hold the tip, it gets a kink... :/

    • @Karifi
      @Karifi Před 7 lety +13

      Bulletcore donald trump aprovees

    • @elijahseh4370
      @elijahseh4370 Před 7 lety

      Karifi you're right

    • @EricChien95
      @EricChien95 Před 7 lety +17

      Grip it with your whole hand point your index finger out let it flow on it and use the index finger to guide the fluid

  • @Bamshi101
    @Bamshi101 Před 8 lety +451

    How the fuck are you wearing only a t-shirt at 17c???!!! That's at LEAST chilly.

  • @schunkolade8217
    @schunkolade8217 Před 5 lety +43

    I just did my first build. Being affraid of puting on to much, i did to little. Idle 42, Load 75. After this video, I took off the heatsink, cleaning, new (and more) thermal paste: Idle 35, Load 65. Thanks LTT!

  • @PhoenixLive_YT
    @PhoenixLive_YT Před 6 lety +2109

    what do you apply before using thermal Paste ?
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    thermal copy
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    i am sorry

  • @cy9nvs
    @cy9nvs Před 7 lety +19

    Just upgraded pretty much everything on my PC over the last month or so, and every time I enter a question here you guys got a video about it leaving me with no questions, great and helpful channel :)

  • @PinkasBrown44
    @PinkasBrown44 Před 7 lety +629

    I think there´s something wrong with the thermal compound I bought...
    ...it tastes really weird.

    • @cr4zyw3ld3r
      @cr4zyw3ld3r Před 6 lety +31

      Here comes the Thermal Paste challenge

    • @Bronco541
      @Bronco541 Před 5 lety +21

      did you remember to cook it first? You didn't eat it straight out the tube did you?

    • @mredizon00
      @mredizon00 Před 5 lety +1

      PinkasBrown44 lol

    • @Wigglythegreat2
      @Wigglythegreat2 Před 5 lety +6

      The problem is that it is uncooked straight out of the tube.

    • @charleyweinhardt
      @charleyweinhardt Před 4 lety +1

      And you getting a temperature?

  • @Egg-sb7fg
    @Egg-sb7fg Před 7 lety +781

    i always put on thermal paste then get paranoid if i put too much or too little or it went on the side

    • @juniorfio1196
      @juniorfio1196 Před 7 lety +21

      Well in this case, it would be fine if you did a little too much. You could always scrape off any excess. But do note, I'm using "too much" loosely.

    • @BigBahss
      @BigBahss Před 7 lety +16

      The tried and true method.

    • @702Wolfi
      @702Wolfi Před 7 lety +5

      Same here.

    • @robert4you
      @robert4you Před 6 lety +24

      You are not alone. Another paranoid dude over here... ;-)

    • @stevebeaudoin4135
      @stevebeaudoin4135 Před 5 lety +4

      haha same

  • @MrHamster1010
    @MrHamster1010 Před 11 měsíci +21

    I'd really love an updated version of this with new lab conditions to see if there is minor variance in any of the methods

    • @thecommenterry
      @thecommenterry Před 9 měsíci +2

      I think it would have made a difference if the PC was fully assembled. (i.e. The back panel is off the whole time) PC cases are built to create certain airflow patterns, side panel being off doesn't allow that heat to build when the CPU is running. Thus the test doesn't seem valid

  • @Rakshasa1986
    @Rakshasa1986 Před 7 lety +885

    You forgot the method where you take your CPU out for an evening of romance.

    • @sisifo241
      @sisifo241 Před 7 lety +26

      lmao, but maybe there are people here with AMD and you wouldn't really like to be seen with an AMD processor

    • @Darkhalo314
      @Darkhalo314 Před 7 lety +18

      You forgot the part where after you buy it dinner and spend a lot of money on it, it tells you that you're a great friend and that it just wants to remain friends.

    • @sisifo241
      @sisifo241 Před 7 lety

      Darkhalo314 so typical hahaha

    • @TheSheerohimada
      @TheSheerohimada Před 7 lety +7

      Sounds like you have first hand experience....

    • @ivancabarcas8204
      @ivancabarcas8204 Před 7 lety

      Fap?

  • @QuadTubeChannel
    @QuadTubeChannel Před 7 lety +67

    If you ever encounter a "stuck" heat-sink, do NOT try to pull and twist the heat-sink off. This can bend the CPU pins and - in the case of CPU's that have no heatspreader such as the AMD Athlon XP and Duron - damage the exposed core logic.
    Instead power up the computer for a few minutes if possible, then power down fully. See if the heat-sink can gently be removed. In some instances the CPU heat generated from by the CPU will helps loosen up the thermal paste/thermal pad.
    I had this very problem with an old Pentium 4 that was left for years.. I couldn't access the CPU lever as it was obscured by the CPU heat-sink. The heat-sink was stuck rock solid. Turned the machine on for 10 minutes, I then turned the machine off, and found the heat-sink shifted MUCH easier, to the point where I could very gently wiggle it until it finally gave up the ghost and separated from the CPU. The culprit was a very old thermal pad that should have been replaced years ago; however the CPU itself survived to fight another day :)
    Note: Be mindful of running stress tests (which rapidly heat up the CPU) with old CPU's like the AMD Athlon and early Duron. Said products have poor thermal overload which will be compounded by any air gaps between the CPU and heat-sink. Under no circumstance run either of these CPU's with no heat-sink. Better to go into the BIOS and keep a close eye on the CPU temp.. if it rises very quickly towards its threshold then power the system down as quickly as possible then see if the heat-sink budges.
    Modern CPU's from both AMD and Intel do not have this problem; they will most likely power or under-clock if they sense they are getting too hot.

    • @gerble36
      @gerble36 Před 5 lety +14

      A hair dryer for a few seconds works like a charm too.

    • @DaRealKing303
      @DaRealKing303 Před 4 lety +1

      NICE! Good advice.

    • @n0iz1337
      @n0iz1337 Před 4 lety +3

      Just play some Rust for 15 minutes and your heat-sink should melt together with the paste.

    • @Crynomical
      @Crynomical Před 2 lety

      @@n0iz1337 play some horizon zero dawn now lol

  • @robertbabic80
    @robertbabic80 Před 7 lety +225

    so conclusion is that the more thermal paste u apply, the more ambient temperature will rise! :)

  • @deekstercad500
    @deekstercad500 Před 7 lety +140

    The question that I didn't see anything mentioned about and was thinking this whole time since the temps are basically the same - what is the cooler's fan RPM to maintain that temp? That would indicate if one amount/application method was more/less thermally conductive than another amount. Or did you use a fixed fan RPM in your test?

    • @Linets.
      @Linets. Před 4 lety +10

      Yeah...

    • @antikrabe8646
      @antikrabe8646 Před 2 lety +4

      That’s exactly what I thought watching this video. Hope some day we’ll have the answer.

  • @jackcrackerman
    @jackcrackerman Před 6 lety +2

    This is helpful. I've got a rigid tubing custom loop and reseated and redid the thermal compound like 3 times before I realized that my thermal paste application, no matter how I did it resulted in the same performance.

  • @Hardwareunboxed
    @Hardwareunboxed Před 8 lety +273

    I hope so, I have been having to clean my credit cards for years!

    • @abdulmuhaimin5274
      @abdulmuhaimin5274 Před 8 lety +6

      #GetRekt

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed Před 8 lety +15

      +Arab_Knight69 That's awesome you should upload that shit.

    • @BlackAus07
      @BlackAus07 Před 8 lety +4

      What if i get fridge water in a spray bottle and spray it on the cpu when its hot instead of a normal cooler?

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed Před 8 lety +4

      +BlackAus07 That is the preferred method if you can get your hands on a decent spray bottle for a reasonable price, copper nozzles create the perfect mist for high-end CPUs. Just remember like thermal paste, don't over do it!

    • @BlackAus07
      @BlackAus07 Před 8 lety +2

      +Hardware Unboxed Awesome just bought a xeon cpu last week I will let you knos how it goes.

  • @edwardecl
    @edwardecl Před 8 lety +175

    what about using mustard instead of thermal paste.

    • @inboxlastname5633
      @inboxlastname5633 Před 8 lety +6

      +IIIRobIII lmfao, that was funnier than it should've been.

    • @jeevesme
      @jeevesme Před 8 lety

      +edwardecl Don't be ridiculous. It's not even the right color. It would make the processor work harder. Thus decreasing the speed via thermal throttling.

    • @asysjr
      @asysjr Před 8 lety +26

      +edwardecl
      then you will have a PC Mustard Race.

    • @Raviex1
      @Raviex1 Před 8 lety +3

      +Ghost Nappa Ugh... I hope you're happy with the decisions you've made in life. Because that hurt xD

    • @israchido5708
      @israchido5708 Před 7 lety +4

      You're kidding RIGHT?
      No one will put mustard....
      I will put in the mine Mayonnaise.

  • @NewShockerGuy
    @NewShockerGuy Před 6 lety +4

    I have always applied thermal paste by applying it in the middle of the processor, then using a flat blade completely covering the entire chip/thin layer. I never have excess squirt out and it's always been fine. I prefer this over the dot method because there is zero chance of too much be squished out anywhere.

  • @keyboarding5593
    @keyboarding5593 Před 7 lety +87

    I do the Mona Lisa method.

  • @corruptedminds5679
    @corruptedminds5679 Před 8 lety +15

    I think the test would be better if you used an air cooler and possibly tried a cycle without thermal past as a control

  • @kopboy55
    @kopboy55 Před 8 lety +824

    i made mine in a swastika form. never gets above -3 (c)

    • @oyanezg
      @oyanezg Před 8 lety +6

      +Kopboy55 Lol Hehehe

    • @vivalaboxxy57
      @vivalaboxxy57 Před 8 lety

      Nice haggard garage profile pic.

    • @kopboy55
      @kopboy55 Před 8 lety

      Tankz

    • @izzard
      @izzard Před 8 lety +85

      I made mine in a pentagram form. Never goes below 200ºC

    • @kopboy55
      @kopboy55 Před 8 lety +11

      Actually that's what i thought. but i guess its colder than Hitlers heart? i dont get it. i needed a space heater. not a fucking mini fridge.

  • @TheUniversalEyes
    @TheUniversalEyes Před 8 lety +1

    On thick paste (Arctic Silver 5) I use the double thin method, take a small amount, apply it to the heat sink with a circular motion, which will create a round circle, but it needs to be very thin.(almost see through thin) Then I use the same method for the cpu. When the two very thin coats join, you end up with one perfect layer and it reduces air gaps, it also reduces paste from leaking out. In fact, when I tear down my systems for cleaning every year, I never find any paste that has leaked out and my temps are always super low (below 40c), even overclocked.

  • @Goriaas
    @Goriaas Před 7 lety +63

    so if I use non conductive thermal paste I basically can't go wrong as long as I put enough?

    • @premize
      @premize Před 7 lety +22

      Correct

    • @premize
      @premize Před 7 lety +22

      Only applicable towards conductive pastes.

    • @mezz9159
      @mezz9159 Před 7 lety +11

      You literally drown your hardware on non-conductive thermal paste. The mounting pressure on the CPU will reduce it to thin layer anyways (as shown in the video), the rest will spill to the edges. It's only a bit annoying to clean it.

    • @premize
      @premize Před 7 lety

      mezz Indeed, but only a moron would excessively apply thermal paste. I think the question here is only to ask if it's safe to apply what's considered "too much".

    • @andrewhuang4772
      @andrewhuang4772 Před 5 lety

      @Brother Ares Actually spreading it with your finger is best honestly, because you ensure the whole cpu surface is covered up.

  • @IAmTheRealKen
    @IAmTheRealKen Před 8 lety +235

    TL;DR: As long as you use enough, you're fine.

    • @flow1465
      @flow1465 Před 8 lety +3

      as long as you use right amount of TP then you are fine

    • @IAmTheRealKen
      @IAmTheRealKen Před 8 lety +27

      Batman There is no "right amount", too much is clearly better than too little.

    • @devsirmeb
      @devsirmeb Před 8 lety +1

      that wasnt too much. that was so much and too much will make it go down to the motherboard.

    • @devsirmeb
      @devsirmeb Před 8 lety

      which is NOT a good thing

    • @slaydonk
      @slaydonk Před 8 lety +9

      I mean if you are a complete idiot and do that, you have much bigger problems than paste application and they do make ceramic pastes that really aren't conductive, so even then it wouldn't be the end of the world

  • @shidajieqing
    @shidajieqing Před 8 lety +29

    dont you feel cold staying in a 16.8C room with only a tshirt on?

  • @PrzemekZawadzki
    @PrzemekZawadzki Před 7 lety

    Your workshop just helped me cleaning my laptop and aplying new thermal paste. Thanx!

  • @christopherpeterson8741
    @christopherpeterson8741 Před 6 lety +1

    This is EXACTLY what we need to see THANKS GENIUS!!!! Merry Christmas.

  • @litieguai6306
    @litieguai6306 Před 3 lety +5

    I think ideally you want nearly full coverage just not overflowing and also the thickness of the paste brand affects how much it spreads

  • @CallardAndBowser
    @CallardAndBowser Před 4 lety +15

    You put a grain of rice sized portion on the cpu, then you use a rubber glove or plastic sandwich bag over your finger and spread it evenly over the
    entire surface before mounting the heat sink / block.
    The paste is only really supposed to fill in all the micro gaps in the surface. You want the plate to make contact with as much metal surface as it can.
    It's old school but still the best way. 🤓

  • @blackmennewstyle
    @blackmennewstyle Před 4 lety +3

    9:05 Dude that T-SHIRT is absolutely fire

  • @61mab
    @61mab Před 6 lety

    Love this, got my cpu ready to paste and install Hyper 212 evo. Using Tunia TX-4 but looks like my stress is useless! Some or none is the biggest choice.
    Thanks for this

  • @rutatutut
    @rutatutut Před 8 lety +3

    THEME from "The Workshop" thus far: Paste application doesn't matter all that much. And cable management doesn't matter all that much.
    Love your videos Luke! Keep 'em coming! :)

    • @ooh-ahh
      @ooh-ahh Před 8 lety +1

      Nothing else matters :)

  • @routtookc8064
    @routtookc8064 Před 8 lety +8

    the piano music really helps take the whole experiment to another level.

  • @redbullminifridgepcbycusto8204

    Great video...Thank you. I've been doing pea method and have always been afraid of the amount. All good!!

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu Před 7 lety +12

    I think The Rock called it:
    "Let's look at the various ways to pa-"
    "IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU PASTE IT!"

  • @TechSource
    @TechSource Před 8 lety +29

    I have always done the Pea dot for my builds, this is very interesting results!

  • @Quacker_Gaming
    @Quacker_Gaming Před 5 lety +4

    Would love to see this retested on current cpus and to see each individual core temp. It may make a slight difference if not all is covered completely

  • @TheVandrell
    @TheVandrell Před 4 lety +2

    I've never got full coverage at the corners using middle dot. So now I go for one big dot middle and smaller dots near each corner. Does the trick. Is not going air bubble anyway, when paste meets paste it just combines.

  • @wisefries4205
    @wisefries4205 Před 4 lety

    this video is old, but for people wondering, on the arctic silver guide (specifically for Ryzen CPUs) the best way to apply it is a 1mm wide line across the cores’ length, instead of having the processor completely covered. this is to have better contact *only* directly where it needs it, as to prevent loss of cooling
    fyi, i think some stress tests might be wrong in videos, because of the “break-in” time of the paste. Arctic Silver 5 has a break-in time of 200 hours, and the results change several degrees when comparing directly after application and letting it cure.

  • @soylentgreenb
    @soylentgreenb Před 6 lety +5

    The classic method during that brief period where CPUs had a bare die was to use a random expired credit card or library card or similar and spread it like you spread butter. The idea was that it was more important that every square mm was covered right when you turned it on rather than having the least amount of air bubbles or whatever.

  • @Albylion
    @Albylion Před 5 lety +7

    My temps were running high on my first build with the pea method. So I used a thin layer over the whole thing with a card (not bleeding over the edge--cleaned edges with Q-tips, TP, and soft cloths), and a pea method on that. Went down significantly.

  • @Muscleduck
    @Muscleduck Před 7 lety

    I always used a method I learned from the Arctic Silver website. Finger in plastic bag for the bottom of the cooler (and wipe off excess) and then spreading on the CPU with a plastic card.
    Glad to see the pea method works as good, will save me the heartache next time.

  • @doop00
    @doop00 Před 5 lety

    Thanks this makes me less uneasy I've saved up for a long time and I just orderered all new parts to replace my entire computer that is a decade old.
    I think I'm going with the pea/dot method because that way it spreads out even in all directions.

  • @TheWoundedWarrior
    @TheWoundedWarrior Před 4 lety +14

    While I still prefer the full even spread, it becomes a lot easier when you realise that the metal square on top of the CPU is a heatsink to the core and that the core is only in a certain spot on the CPU anyway... with negligible difference I'll just do the full spread to avoid issues if I don't know where the core is.

  • @DIYPerks
    @DIYPerks Před 8 lety +113

    YES! I've been wondering about this for a while. Excellent summary Luke! You've done some real myth busting here.
    This is super useful to know for other applications where heatsinks are used too.

    • @TkrZ
      @TkrZ Před 8 lety +1

      +DIY Perks hey it's diy perks, what's up? :)

    • @idgaf5252
      @idgaf5252 Před 8 lety

      +Luke Lafreniere Yeah you wish.

    • @DIYPerks
      @DIYPerks Před 8 lety +2

      +Luke Lafreniere Haha, love the gif :D seriously though, thermal compound application methods have been soooo controversial, so it's great to have some solid answers on the matter.

  • @erikamaeres1846
    @erikamaeres1846 Před 7 lety

    Glad you made this video! I was about to try it myself glad you did it for me..lol. Saved me a lot of time.

  • @jclball
    @jclball Před 7 lety

    I just cleaned and re-applied yesterday. On removal the cooloer and CPU they seemed to have a gelled amount of dried paste. I used a BB size drop and spread it thin and even with a Q-tip, The result was a drop from 72C to 53C. I am liking the q-tip method.

  • @nathanmcclymont3950
    @nathanmcclymont3950 Před 8 lety +12

    i would like to see this done with a much less efficient cooler. might have a bit more room for slightly different temperatures.

    • @CanalGabrielCoelho
      @CanalGabrielCoelho Před 8 lety +1

      +Nathan McClymont and with low quality "generic" white thermal paste!
      Dude uses EVERYTHING optimal, super premium products which are basically fail proof!
      A stock cooler and cheap thermal paste would be a much better scenario!

  • @codywalker27cw
    @codywalker27cw Před 6 lety +4

    I would have liked to have seen individual core temp for this to see if more even coverage to the edges would help with the issues that some cpu have with single cores getting to high temps( i7 7700k as an example)

  • @shawn6426
    @shawn6426 Před 7 lety

    one thing you could try is setting the cooler down at an angle like closing a book instead of trying to place it straight down when doing the spread method. This will basically roll the air bubbles out the side. I have also read that when the CPU heats up to max the air will be pushed out when the paste sets...

  • @spacial2
    @spacial2 Před 7 lety

    This is the sort of video I like. Straight to the point and a ton of useful information.

  • @CallmeBigfat
    @CallmeBigfat Před 8 lety +15

    Dayum Luke, Back at it again with the thermal paste

  • @TheRealEZOverdose
    @TheRealEZOverdose Před 8 lety +6

    shouldve overclocked it so it was running around 70c. if you idle at 20c and load at 47c your delta is 27c. if you idle at 20c and load at 70c your delta is 50c. much easier to see differences that way. small changes in thermal conductivity will be amplified

    • @z00h
      @z00h Před 8 lety

      +EZOVERDOSE yeah you might get +-1 deg C if you're lucky, and that will be like negligible still.

    • @TheRealEZOverdose
      @TheRealEZOverdose Před 8 lety

      z00h
      i guess we will never know. another problem i have is he never gave the cpu temp at the decimal. newest aida64 shows the avg in decimal form and i wont believe that he got 47.0 every time. whatever he getting temps from we dont know if it rounds up at .5 or not. its also just not professional for the leading name in tech videos to do when smaller channels are much more thorough and accurate with their tests.
      gamers nexus just did a video about how they compared their case temp testing methodology to an actual thermal chamber and compared temps to the thousandths .000. 3 places over from the decimal.
      these workshop videos feel like someone with mediocre experience just half ass testing something every time

    • @z00h
      @z00h Před 8 lety

      EZOVERDOSE because 0.5 degs would mean much. Dude... please.

    • @TheRealEZOverdose
      @TheRealEZOverdose Před 8 lety

      z00h .5 would be best case but if it didnt round at all that would be .9. adding that from the .5 ish ambient you have a 1.4c difference. test at higher temps like 70-80c and that could amplify to as much as 5c. 5c becomes a pretty big deal when you pushing a chip to its thermal limits with extreme oc'ing.
      i looked at aida again and the decimal is only for avg not peak. i guess those diodes dont do decimals because i couldnt find anything on it. they should have a special cpu thats been fitted with a custom diode in between the ihs and die or something to read more accurately than a flat number. they are after all a multiple million dollar operation that can afford a couple hundred dollar sensor and leaders of the online tech video world implying they could handle installing it
      i expect more from them

    • @z00h
      @z00h Před 8 lety

      EZOVERDOSE It seems to me that you're making shit up for the sake of making yourself look smart.

  • @jackbn9353
    @jackbn9353 Před 6 lety

    I have a small (3/32" wide), long-handle plastic spatula made for the purpose.
    I cover the entire CPU top AND the cooler contact area.
    If the cooler allows (most do) I push it on, then lift and rotate the cooler 90 degrees and push again, removing any excess.
    Thermal engineers will tell you that total contact area AND paste thickness both are important -- max area and little thickness.
    Your tests suggest little difference, but I shall continue to maximize the contact area.

  • @Cfomodz
    @Cfomodz Před 6 lety

    This was a hilarious watch while I was actually applying some thermal paste (just used the pea method), thank you for going through all of that for us!) haha - liked👍🏻

  • @InvntdXNEWROMAN
    @InvntdXNEWROMAN Před 8 lety +8

    I need Luke's fucking shirt that he is wearing during the CrunchyRoll advertisement.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Před 6 lety +10

    "It doesn't spread" he says, as he uses a card with paper over it. You know the kind of paper you use to wipe things up. You ever seen a bricklayer put his trowel in a pillowcase?
    Hey, if you're afraid you'll get your credit card dirty, you could always wipe it after. It's a piece of plastic.

  • @101ified
    @101ified Před 7 lety

    Hey I have a question. I'm building a new computer and am using a stock cooler that has thermal paste pre applied. I accidnetly touched the thermal paste though and smudged a bit. Do I have to reapply some or can I leave it as is?

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum Před 6 lety

    I use about half a pea in the middle and let the pressure of the heatsink do the work. This is for single-die chips, and the paste spreads out far enough to cover the area where the chip is, without getting messy, and being thin enough to let the heatsink contact the heatspreader, so that the thermal paste is ONLY filling in the microscopic gaps.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Před 6 lety +42

    One important information is how fast the fan/watercooler is running - maybe your MB is making things go to 47 degrees regardless of how good the application method is.

    • @Sypaka
      @Sypaka Před 3 lety +1

      like a temperature limiter? huh...

  • @CanalGabrielCoelho
    @CanalGabrielCoelho Před 8 lety +6

    Canadians... 17°C and Luke is wearing a t-shirt and no signs of discomfort at all!

    • @mushious
      @mushious Před 8 lety

      +Gabriel Coelho 17C is comfortable though.

    • @louisarius9672
      @louisarius9672 Před 8 lety

      +Gabriel Coelho In South-East Asia here, I wear jackets when it goes to 24C and below lol

    • @louisarius9672
      @louisarius9672 Před 8 lety +1

      +Gabriel Coelho In South-East Asia here, I wear jackets when it goes to 24C and below lol

    • @CanalGabrielCoelho
      @CanalGabrielCoelho Před 8 lety

      +Mushious For canadians and basically people who don't live near the tropics. 17 here is like fall/winter temps. with winter not going colder than 0°C or -4°C in very cold years.

    • @mushious
      @mushious Před 8 lety

      +Gabriel Coelho cold here is 0 and below, might put a jacket on below 10

  • @brykidLoL
    @brykidLoL Před 8 lety

    Nice video dude.
    Thanks for all those methods it really helped me ^^

  • @techbro1979
    @techbro1979 Před 6 lety +2

    I think the main concern for me is air bubbles/pockets in the paste.
    I used the the almost too much method with a card to smooth it out evenly on multiple computers. The reason? one of my laptop computers that ran forever without any heat problems had WAY too much thermal paste applied by the manufacturer. It was a laptop and it had the thermal paste all over the place even on outside circuits and I'm not sure it did any harm. It is still running strong today. Granted I didn't apply as much as they did but pretty damn close. I also think there is some type of clear silicone material covering and protecting the circuits around the cpu on that laptop. It is a worn and torn workhorse laptop that I should replace with a newer one so any risks involved with too much thermal paste is not a issue for me. The time to take it apart again could be better spent elsewhere.
    I also drilled a damn hole in the back of the outer plastic case right above the cpu to let heat escape because there is no vent in that area. They really need to make better cooling solutions for laptops.

  • @IIARROWS
    @IIARROWS Před 7 lety +17

    Ehi, less IS more... less is MORE APPLICATIONS.

    • @michalvalta5231
      @michalvalta5231 Před 7 lety

      What if you are building only one computer? Unless you have 3 or more GPUs, you can be very liberal with your paste, you will not use it up anyway. At least I haven't seen one so small that it would not be enough for 3 really big applications.

    • @IIARROWS
      @IIARROWS Před 7 lety

      Well, that may be the case if you only build one PC every few year. But if occasionally you help your friend you can apply it multiple time, it's not a one time use; you can close it and reuse it later, it doesn't spoil.
      And sometimes the paste wear out and you can reapply it later.
      But if you build multiple PC per year or maybe per day, because you are a system builder/repair or Linus Tech Tips, then you have many more applications on a single siringe.

  • @Zeloverevolution
    @Zeloverevolution Před 7 lety +45

    You're wearing a t-shirt and it's 16c?
    You'd love south-east Australian weather!

  • @SuccessforLifester
    @SuccessforLifester Před 6 lety

    I used the pea method at the centre of cpu. However when placing the heat sink I misaligned and need to shift heat sink again and it separated from CPU. I next aligned it and screwed in the heat sink. Do you think I have messed up the application? Do I need to redo? When I last check system temperature via bios, it is showing 49 degree Celsius and Cpu temperature in DTS is 62

  • @Somtaw420
    @Somtaw420 Před 6 lety +1

    This is flash great comparison.
    "Sooooo.....don't use too much.....or too little."
    I'd like to see a revisit series of these where you test a variety of pastes with a shorter variety of methods.

  • @ryantoomey611
    @ryantoomey611 Před 8 lety +5

    You should do a video comparing different types of thermal paste. Such as the standard cheap silicone white stuff verses the more expensive silver type.
    I heard to just get the cheap thermal paste because it will work the same.

    • @Mostlyharmless1985
      @Mostlyharmless1985 Před 8 lety +2

      +Ryan Toomey yes and no. I've found with the cheap stuff, it will work, but it will wear out more quickly. It's a consideration if you aren't upgrading your CPU every 2 years or so. The more expensive pastes are in fact more efficient at transferring heat, but unless the heat sink can dissipate the load quickly enough, it won't matter, so, if you have a good cooler, it will benefit slightly from having better paste.

    • @InWeCome
      @InWeCome Před 4 lety

      The difference between the bad stuff and the good stuff can be around 5 degrees C
      www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/guru3d_thermal_paste_roundup_2019,1.html

  • @mijail2646
    @mijail2646 Před 8 lety +15

    is there any diference in using thermal paste instead of thermal pads on the gpu's VRAM?

    • @timetogetcancer7866
      @timetogetcancer7866 Před 8 lety +1

      Yes

    • @paullawrence9412
      @paullawrence9412 Před 8 lety +5

      Don't do that just buy pads on amazon. please don't use thermal paste.

    • @ITGH---
      @ITGH--- Před 8 lety +2

      Thermal paste is not a solid entity and can move or shrink if you do that causing little to no contact to be made. Just buy pads.

    • @frollard
      @frollard Před 8 lety +2

      +Tyler Morrison + the pads are in the 'millimeters' thick range where the paste is in the 'micrometers' thick range. Thinner is better but the pads on the card are just to get 'good' thermal contact on the nonessential parts. The paste is for the vital 'hundred watt' gpu with heavy clamping pressure. The pads are for the other parts with very little clamping pressure.

    • @ITGH---
      @ITGH--- Před 8 lety

      frollard
      Correct, but we are talking about the VRAM modules on a graphics card, which are almost always pads and wouldn't even contact with a thin layer of thermal paste, so just buy pads.

  • @ricsmith6464
    @ricsmith6464 Před 5 lety

    finger painting ftw! (thanks for the vid, I was worried about messing up my new build but maybe it'll be ok, and as you did often, I can just retry)

  • @XTakoaX
    @XTakoaX Před 4 lety

    very nice answered all my questions thanks for the help.

  • @BobBobson
    @BobBobson Před 8 lety +7

    Everybody knows you're supposed to use the whole tube of it.

    • @boblorna5933
      @boblorna5933 Před 8 lety

      +Bob Bobson What else is the rest of the tube for, right?

    • @BobBobson
      @BobBobson Před 8 lety

      Bob Lorna More effective cooling of your balls. Cause nobody likes sweaty balls.

    • @nageorgiou2
      @nageorgiou2 Před 8 lety

      +Bob Bobson But wouldn't that heat your balls?

  • @DarthAsad
    @DarthAsad Před 8 lety +5

    How about a video where you put pre-applied thermal compound vs using your own?

  • @JDOverclock
    @JDOverclock Před 7 lety +1

    Nice! I always use the dot method!

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 Před 6 lety +1

    Pausing at 1:50
    I used to have a piece of paper and a block of wood that had a similar size surface area as the given CPU.
    I would then apply an amount of paste on the paper, in a dot, of which I'd be guessing how much I'd need.
    Then I'd press the wooden block on it, too see how much it spread to gauge if I used too much or too little. (Yes I usually buy two tubes. xD )
    With that, I'd have a fair approximation of knowing of how much I needed.
    And I use the single dot method with minimal 'wrinkling' to avoid air-bubbles.

  • @sunpowerguru3993
    @sunpowerguru3993 Před 8 lety +11

    I get my best results with an application of thermal paste in the shape of the Greek letter theta, written in a firm yet slightly effeminate hand with just a hint of sassy boldness.
    I would like to see some videos about how to adjust chairs please!

  • @CheeseDoodle
    @CheeseDoodle Před 8 lety +13

    Why do you use such a high end water cooler for a test like this??
    You should have used a stock cooler for higher temperatures where the thermal paste has a larger impact on the cooling of the CPU.

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros Před 5 lety +1

      Simon or even better, use the stock cooler and measure the fan rpm needed to keep the cpu at a certain temperature

  • @TheBorkka
    @TheBorkka Před 5 lety

    This is the exact thing o was looking for. Thanks for an awsome test

  • @Eagles_Eye
    @Eagles_Eye Před 5 lety

    Thank you I was nervous about getting my own cpu and a cooler and stuff because I wasn’t sure if I would do a good thermal paste and this kinda shows me I can’t go wrong xd

  • @calebmccool
    @calebmccool Před 3 lety +7

    Me before replacing cpu: “Don’t mess up! Don’t mess up!”
    Me after replacing cpu: “I messed up...”

  • @zzoko7693
    @zzoko7693 Před 6 lety +10

    17c room temp? how are you not freezing, i need atleast 23c

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 Před 4 lety

      *at least
      Two words, not one. Think of the phrase "at the very least."

  • @jumpinfool
    @jumpinfool Před 7 lety

    I love you guys on LTT. but the biggest issue I found with this test was for a thermal test you were using a aio and not an air cooler, you only ran Aida for 10 minutes for each test, not long enough for the aio liquid temps to equalize. for a short test time a air cooler would result in better metrics, metal heats up faster than water. keep making great videos guys!

  • @barmeybarnes
    @barmeybarnes Před 7 lety

    are you guys putting the fans on fixed voltage or rpm for these tests? not using the self adjusting fan speed settings in bios? (I. E. the Temps all the same but different rpm on fans!)

  • @AndrewRosenthal
    @AndrewRosenthal Před 8 lety +58

    luke, just because nobody else would - you should have done a test with NO paste too.

    • @mayravixx25
      @mayravixx25 Před 5 lety +3

      He didn't want to start a fire.

    • @Chrislk1986
      @Chrislk1986 Před 5 lety +2

      Tldr: I did that once.
      I had an old Pavillion laptop from 2004.
      Now it's 2008. IDE HDD died. I didn't know much about hardware, but I made some cat5 patch cables in HS 4 years earlier and did some CMD.exe stuff.
      Well I decided to completely dismantle the laptop because it was 2008 and I was bored, didn't have cable, no job, and a lot of free time.
      Anyway, I did put it all back together. Seemed just as sturdy as before, even though I had 3 screws leftover.
      Oh, but like years later I realized that the shit I wiped off the Celeron processor was thermal paste and I re assembled without thermal paste. I think it worked but thermal throttled 100% and was very painfully slow.

  • @grimzkunk
    @grimzkunk Před 8 lety +80

    IMO The real test would be thermal paste performance one month after being applied.

    • @erice6755
      @erice6755 Před 6 lety +5

      I was going to say the same myself. You can't compare it over just minutes, ofcourse the result will be the same.

    • @cannable420
      @cannable420 Před 5 lety +4

      @@erice6755 plus if it was a little hotter fans would just throttle up more

    • @Herbert2892
      @Herbert2892 Před 5 lety +2

      I like to apply something about the size of a bean of thermal paste and when i put the heatsink, i kind of "shake it" and then the paste gets homogenized. FX6300 after 4h of GTA V is reaching 43C in a brazilian hot summer day (about 34C in my city)

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 Před 4 lety

      @@erice6755 *minutes. Of course

    • @allankhad1030
      @allankhad1030 Před 4 lety

      @@alvallac2171 concur

  • @playtime5423
    @playtime5423 Před 7 lety

    👍🏼👍🏼 I actually love that you did this. I'm the to much guy but not to much that is on my board, but it is for sure covering the whole CPE 😁

  • @wumarNart
    @wumarNart Před 7 lety

    would the results be different when using a stock cooler (or just any lower end cooler)

  • @ohyeahyeah1400
    @ohyeahyeah1400 Před 7 lety +21

    I use the whole tube... My temps stay at 10C, and my Ambient temps are 33C

  • @CobraKaiNoMercy
    @CobraKaiNoMercy Před 5 lety +7

    I've always used the spread method and never had any issue. I remember several years ago when some big tech channels endorsed the pea/line method and said the spread method was not suitable, despite not including temps or a comparison such as in this video.
    Honestly do what works for you, there is no magical application method, just invest in a good paste, (I like Arctic Silver 5), apply it and have fun gaming 😎.

    • @Smoshylife
      @Smoshylife Před rokem

      Artic Silver advises against spreading

  • @kb0ze
    @kb0ze Před 7 lety

    thank god u did thus for me.... I just installed wsterblocks on my X and was worried I didn't apply it right or enough because the paste was very think viscosity... thanks guys

  • @tarancovers7547
    @tarancovers7547 Před 7 lety

    dear linus does thermal for laptop consist of diffrent types or thermal paste can be used to any laptops? without any specification

  • @TheSeveral
    @TheSeveral Před 8 lety +4

    Latest Workshop videos: does it matter? - No

  • @markus27183
    @markus27183 Před 5 lety +22

    You didn't really stress test the CPU by running heavy processing. That's when it matters.

    • @metaspl0it
      @metaspl0it Před 3 lety +2

      That's what i was thinking as well. Before i changed my thermal paste its 48c on idle, same after i applied a new one still 48c. But when i started rendering videos, before it was 85c, now it's just 71c

    • @ironmaidenmetalgod
      @ironmaidenmetalgod Před 3 lety +1

      @@metaspl0it that just tell you that changing it is good. not much about the method

  • @himmelfisken
    @himmelfisken Před 7 lety

    another Great episode.. will use Dot/pea method when applying tomorrow :)

  • @SILENCER369
    @SILENCER369 Před 5 lety

    The real question is for longer periods of time over lets say 3 weeks would there be a significant difference? It seems fine and dandy after a few minutes/ hours but realistically without cleaning the dust off the radiators would temps change over time in the same tests/ use of the computer from day to day? It seems like initially it is fine but what could/ would happen if you tried doing too little, too much, and a pea sized for a control? I bought a MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO from coolermaster, which was giving me great temps early on, for my Ryzen 1700x. 32 C idle but now my temps are around 39 ideal. It may be because I updated a few other components in my computer; however, the new parts I added should not have such a signifigant temperature change in my system . It is good information to do the initial trails and see if it makes a huge difference. I feel like running the computers for longer will shrink the margin of error.
    I also want to say that I have been watching your videos for a while and I love the content you guys do. Your channel should be used as a subsititue for learning in a classroom setting. You guys more often than not give a more detailed picture of whats actually going on with systems than an average classroom ever could. The passion, love of fans, integrity is all there. This channel has helped me build a awesome computer that I can edit photos and videos on and without you I would be lost in an endless trashcan of tech related information. Thanks again for the work that you guys do and Linus needs to wear actually shoes. Its 2019, let the sandle and sock trend, from the 90s, die.

  • @nonethelesss
    @nonethelesss Před 4 lety +14

    No sense video for me, try every test pushing the processor first and then check temps. Idle cpu don't need too much cooling power

    • @InWeCome
      @InWeCome Před 4 lety +2

      Exactly, 47C is nothing. Pop in a Ryzen 3000 series and crank it up to see the real effect

  • @morganminecraftlegion9101

    18:17 Love that shirt!

  • @IvanBilyanov
    @IvanBilyanov Před 6 lety

    You sir give me peace of mind! Great videos.

  • @nicholash8021
    @nicholash8021 Před 3 lety +1

    For the past 25 years of building dozens of PCs, I've always used a razor blade to spread the paste evenly across the entire die while ensuring no missed spots, and no heavy spots. It takes some practice to make it perfectly even. I've seen bigger differences with the type of paste used than the method of application.