Avoid These PC Build Mistakes
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There are a LOT of ways to mess up a gaming PC build . Here are the worst ones that I've come across over the years.
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You forgot to mention removing the plastic before mounting the cpu cooler. Still can't believe people miss it..
It’s natural selection at that point tbh
I did that last night 😂😂😂
I've built 40+ PCs and still miss it. Haha
Never happend to me yet with 20 years of building computers, forgetting the power sw cable or plugging them in to the wrong pins though 😅
@@ImDembe I mean I notice when temps are off by like 10c. But I've ran benchmarks with it on and it doesn't melt. Lol
Biggest mistake: Getting sacred and not building yourself!
Sacred?
I’m fr sacred of building PCs
@@IngeousQwerty Sacred?
@@Kris451 scared?
Holiness and piety has definitely prevented me from diving into the PC arts. 😂
Biggest: Not turning on your power supply and thinking you messed up elsewhere.
fr i did this but realized before i got too scared
Yep this is the best one stripping it all down putting back together doing it 1 component at a time for the power supply to be on the off switch i did that 1 time and never again that is what i check every time now can guaranty plenty of people have done it.
#16 - Bend your motherboard or gpu
#17 - Not peeling off the protective foil from cpu cooler before install
#18 - Not checking your finished build for loose screws, washers or any leftover metallic material which can short your motherboard
if you use nvidia rtx than its impossible to bend (in my opinion)
I've literally never seen a fragile GPU.
I once changed some component in my pc and dropped a tiny screw into the case and could never find it again but I’d here it rattling around whenever I moved the case. Never caused any problems but it was pure stress
One note for the antennas: if you have signal strength problems then the antenna come with your motherboard would be your best bet since those would have greater sensitivity. Shorter antennas would be fine if you care about aesthetics and you are okay with the signal strength.
can confirm. went traveling with the small antennas and the signal was atrocious in some places. the stock antennas from your motherboard are way better for weaker signals
To add to this; Most stock antenna's are magnetic so you can hook it up to the back of your case more cleanly.
@@metord stupid strong magnet killed one of my client's ITX mobo, drained the cmos battery and damaged one of the components near the vrm and we had to RMA it. So be careful with this base and put it far away from the pc or case.
@@emini6 What the hell kind of magnet are you talking about?
@@enriqueamaya3883 bruh we're discussing wifi here.
Don’t do 16, just use something called fancontrol, other CZcamsrs have done videos on it, it’s software and entirely free and has more features than NZXT’s software which requires you to spend money on the fan controller. It’ll let you control any fans plugged into your motherboard down to your VRM fan too! And allow you to select pretty much all temperature sensors too. Argusmonitor you still have to pay for and it has less features and just doesn’t look modern in any way
SpeedFan is another option
@@sushimshah2896 did speedfan got updated the last decade?
thanks for this one @calzone
Yup, you can set your case fan curves to be based on both the cpu and the gpu. When one or the other gets hot, it ramps up however much you want.
Was flabbergasted to hear that advice in an otherwise fair video (especially after "vendor bloatware" section) and headed straight to comments to check if FanControl was mentioned. Luckily, it was.
9:00
you didn't mention fan control, its free and open-source and it is quite powerful being able to mix temps of difrent components and alongside other features it is precise and easy to use
@@enriqueamaya3883 stop puching your religion onto others, noone cares
@@enriqueamaya3883 Jesus is dead, following him means death
@@Bubnova easter?
@@NoConnbrother
@@immigrantgaming420epic yo I thought we all died out
Tip16 : you can also use FanControl freeware to control fan speed using whatever sensor you want with any curve or function that you fancy :)
Seconding this. FanControl is insanely underrated.
Names?
@@pedro.alcatra Fan Control is the name
@@pedro.alcatra SpeedFan is one example. If your case fans are installed in one of the PWM pins on your board Speedfan will detect the GPU temperature and then you can assign a fan depending on how many PWM pins you have on your board. If ever you have one PWM socket you can use a Y splitter to link up all your case fans, downside to this is it will sync all the fans to one speed.
@@Bristlefront I used speed fan in the past I really don't like it mutch. But thanks anyway
FanControl is way better than NZXT Hub or Argus Monitor. Completely free and does everything those tools to but better.
Ive been building pcs since the 90s and i still get nervous doing it. Thank you for the reminders, sets the mind at ease mid-build!
Anyone who doesn't use Pcpartpicker is missing out. I love it and plan out builds for fun.
Insane website
I've been looking for antennae like that ever since building my desktop and had no idea those existed, they're perfect!
Love the small tips format. It’s always the small stuff that deters new builders
We all have many regrets, But I promise you all, Following Jesus will not be one 🙏.”,””,”.”4”(“,
I'll upgrade my prebuilt soon, thanks for the video! Now I can avoid some of those mistakes.
OMG I never realized how garbage they are. Even my fans were wrong. Mulyiple ways wrong!
PC building is fun. I did it myself but with the help of course from you guys from CZcams. I built my gaming pc last year and that was one of the most unforgettable experience I have.
same here. fantastic feeling when everything just spins up and works!
Yea, but it also unlocks the urge to mod and improve it(for me atleast)
Oh hey I did that display into motherboard thing! Just yesterday I was finishing up my first PC build, tried doing benchmarks and whatnot to make sure all the parts were working right, and I couldn't figure out why my GPU wasn't doing anything. The system recognized it, I could manually force specific apps to run using it instead of the dedicated GPU, but it was defaulting to the integrated graphics and only Microsoft apps would let me choose which GPU I wanted to use manually, with no software-side option to switch the default.
And then the solution was to simply swap where I plugged in the HDMI.
My most annoying build mistake is finishing the build to then later notice that the metal latches for grounding the I/O shield to the motherboard have slipped into the ports. So you have to take the motherboard out again and it could short something out if unnoticed.
Just bend them until they break off, they are not important.
@@enriqueamaya3883 🤣🤣🤣 yeah because jesus gonna come and fix my pc
@@saifitanvirahmed8604 Not only can He do that, but giving your life to Him will also spare you from eternal separation from the One who wants an amazing relationship with you. Trust in Jesus today and believe the Gospel (Good news)! As enriqueamaya said, it's the best decision anyone could make. Being transformed into mercy and love and grace Itself.
@@timbro88 Get treatment for your religious mania and stop trolling.
Those pins are for grounding?? Never knew. I thought it was to keepthe IO shield from vibrating, hence the spring kind of action.
One typical mistake is forgetting to set the xmp
What is that?
@@takkjjxap xmp stands for extreme memory profile. The default speed for DDR4 RAM is 2133MHz, but most RAM is capable of running much faster. You need to manually define your RAM speed in BIOS or your PC won't take advantage of its full capability.
@@PropaneWP ok thanks
@PropaneWP how do you do this because I am having trouble with my pc because it keeps black, and green screening and the DRAM light keeps coming on after I can't really find anything exactly wrong with mine. The only thing I can say is that I updated my gpu driver recently before this happened and I cannot fix it. I have DDR4 RAM with 2x8 gb stick from the same package
Can confirm, bought 6000mhz sticks and default was at 5400 or something in bios.@@PropaneWP
Brilliant tips, thanks a lot 👍👍👍. Building my first desktop PC and this definitely helps.
All the best in 2024 and beyond.
My first pc build went well, i bent all the pins on my motherboard and cpu.
At least you were thorough.
ALL of them? Did you step on it?
Intel motherboard with amd cpu?
@@idontknow4449 Thats an actual thing? 💀
@@abc-ze2es wut💀
Thanks for the tips, the #13 was very helpful to me, such an amazing web and tool I didn't know it existed.
Gonna have to disagree with getting a cheaper CPU for gaming, it really depends on the type of games you play. If the game is optimized correctly yes it should be mainly using the GPU, but some games are VERY CPU intensive. I mainly play a lot of MMO's and a better CPU makes a huge difference, especially when there are lots of players on the screen. I also play some games that are optimized very poorly and heavily rely on the CPU.
If a game is CPU dependent, it doesn't have to mean that it is poorly optimized. Take strategy games like Civilization V or VI for example. In general, the faster your CPU, the faster the AI calculates their turns. CPU's are better at AI calculations than GPU's unless you have an AI accelerator card. But I don't think those can be used for gaming anyways.
And then we have games like CS:GO. It has so simple graphics that most of the time your bottleneck is the CPU.
Exactly bro for example modded multiplayer asetto corsa is very cpu intensive
Tf2 is another good example of CPU intense game
moreover, more powerful cpu mean that you can stay with it longer without need to buy new cpu
No game is more poorly optimized than Ark.
did the exact thing you told me not to do about swapping the drives and it worked perfectly. take that!
So glad you mentioned swapping in the boot drive from an older machine. I cannot tell you how many times I see new builders ask if that is OK or if it will work. Yes it CAN work in some cases especially going from a similar spec machine to another but is ALWAYS a bad idea, worse yet is people responding saying "Oh yeah that's fine" or "Sure no problem I do it all the time" just makes me want to pound my head against a wall. They don't realize all the things in the registry that tie's the OS to the old machine from installed programs and games and apps to drivers, settings and timings etc. Again it CAN work on occasion but at best can result in an unstable or slower machine and at worse cause BSOD's or simply be unbootable from the start. And really even those insisting it's fine (for them) it's just being lazy and inviting trouble in the long run.
Been trying to upgrade my pc for the past 2 years.
I had a 1060ti 6gb, i5 4600, 16gb sub 2kmhz ram, generic mtb and 450W psu.
Finally upgraded a few days ago to a 7800x3d, nd15s cooler, 1000W gold/plat psu, 32gb ddr5 6000 cl30 rgb ram that I also turned into temp gauges and a few m.2s all seated in an asus b650-A gaming wifi mtb. Holding off on a better gpu as I only got a 1080p monitor for now, so I went with the 4060ti.
After setting it up, installing drivers and making tweaks, it's been so-far been smashing everything I throw at it pretty well. I do a lot of VR gaming, and it's been such a breath of fresh air being able to go back to titles I was playing on my other rig of sub 30fps to now capping frames without sutters.
Main idea is to future proof everything necessary and incrementally upgrade my gpu if anything interesting drops over it's lifespan. Was going to go with the 7800XT when it dropped, but the price where I live and limited availability of the model that'd fit my case is unreasonable, though the only reason I wanted it was for the performance overhead I now realize I don't need for the titles I currently play. Sure, I might want to try some of the new AAA titles down the line, but I'm not unused to gaming on low settings if required- so it should be fine.
Waiting for your next ITX build. Gonna see how you cram all that power of the 40 series into one shoe box style case.
easy, give the 4090 its own shoe box lol.
one of the best tips I got with compatibility for your mobo while researching parts is reading the manual for pci specs or certain features or lack of features and like he said checking bios and chipset updates
Great video! Always like to watch stuff like this before I make any tweaks to my system. You never know what you might be missing!
We all have many regrets, But I promise you all, Following Jesus will not be one 🙏.”,”,””:”;”,;
Thanks for the antenna tip. Bought with your link. Have been using the motherboard antenna and it’s been the sole thing killing my 0 visible cable game.
UNSTABLE MEMORY!!! I’m going through this right now, only my 3rd build I’ve done. Upgrading to a 4090 and replacing my current mobo and memory so hopefully I have no issues this time. All these blue screens and memory crashes have been driving me crazy
This is fantastic! Thank you so much! Is there any change on the recommended CPU ?
Great video. I think it can be worth spending a bit more on a better CPU e.g. I thought I was saving money buying an i5 but eventually upgraded to an i7 for better performance, but would have saved more money and hassle just getting the i7 in the first place.
Great video, good tipps. Thanks!
On the subject of the case fans, you really don't need a controller. What I did, was in the bios I set the case fan curves to the mosfets, since those heat up under sustained loads from GPU, CPU, or both together. They also take longer to heat up which means that if your GPU just has a short burst of activity, the case fans won't ramp up unnecessarily, and also when there has been load for a while, they will continue at a higher RPM and ramp down slower than the GPU itself which is helpful to bring the entire system back down to ambient temperatures. All you need to do is find out the temperature range your mosfets are running with something like HWINFO64 while under load as well as not under load, and then set the curve up based on that.
Thanks, all advise is very true and helpful, I agree with you 💯,
My man flexing in the last shot:) Great video!
Great stuff. I would add not checking the Mobo's Q codes or status led's when trouble occurs. I recently wasted hours solving an issue pointed out by my start up status led.
+1 I had an older PC not displaying anything or turning on the RGBs on the mobo when powering on the PC and I tried so many things besides check the status LEDs including replacing the PSU. Then I saw the light and it turned out to be faulty RAM…
Nice, been there done most of those and often find it it many of those that others I am helping have done.
Impatiently waiting to see how your main build upgrade in sff case will look like)
FormD T2?
For Linux the boot drive issue is not a thing.
For PSU I normally buy compatible ones from Corsair, this helps with pin out.
Problem with the fan controller is that I assume you would need software for that.
Very good and sound advice. Well done.
Another tip: You should not spin the fan when cleaning them.
why
The spinning could create a electric charge and therefore damage your pc parts
oh damn, i recently cleaned my pc with canned air and let all the fins spin, guess i was lucky haha
@@lowfade3273Well when it spins faster than its supposed to spin it might damage aswell
I've shot canned air into a laptop fan and it spun up and exploded within 0.3 seconds
Great tips, thank you.
Great vid as always!
Ther thing i struggle the most is cable management when it comes to the fans cabling...
I over tightened my CPU cooler bracket and it ended up scraping through the protective layer of the motherboard right down to the copper and it ended up shorting out. thankfully it's still alive and perfectly fine, but the CPU bracket and motherboard are very burnt. amazingly it's still completely fine
What about using sleeved aftermarket cable extensions attached to your normal power supply cables?
Hey just wanted to ask how is the review for the gwolves hsk+ going has it arrived yet? I fell really tempted to buy one but there aren't many objective reviews for it
Why should you do a fresh install when changing CPU/Mobo vs just plugging in your old boot drive? What's the difference?
also to mention is before upgrade the cpu, especially with the AMD am4 platform is upgrade the bios before to set the new cpu. I had many builds where I sold the cpu before doing the upgrade, then the computer would not start. And upgrading after hand is difficult, because on my latest build, the manual said it loud and clear: before upgrade the cpu, please upgrade the bios first.
Word up.
I love this series of yours. Still recall that 50 PC Build Tips from last year
The PC partpicker isn't accurate for RAM compatibility. It's best to find the compliant RAM from motherboard compatibility list and then verify it with the RAM compatibility
Great video! Any plan to review alienware aw2723df?
That very useful information. Thanks.
You are so well respected that info from you is just pure gold. Great advice. Thank you.
I'm really looking forward to your next SFF builds with the latest CPU GPU combos. The cooling solutions vs speed and noise will be so different now as the CPU maxs temp before throttling.
We all have many regrets, But I promise you all, Following Jesus will not be one 🙏.”,”,”.”:”,”,
i've ignored a lot of these things upgrading, and yet my pc still stands. I've broken a mobo jamming a cpu in, i've swapped ssds across pcs, i've used random ass ram, and completely ignored fan curves.
Argus monitor, hmm, never found that digging on the web, thanks for the pro tip!
From my experience, you have to be careful of not scratching your motherboard from the bottom when installing it in a case. In the middle of where your ATX motherboard goes(in most or all cases under the m.2 slot) there is this one spacer for the screw with more height(which is in some cases very sharp) to lock the mobo in place and make it easier for screwing it on and if you're not careful there is a slim chance of damaging the board if you are sliding it towards the I/O shield to the back of the case and then if something turns out to be wrong with the mobo, the RMA is gone
You've got the best tech videos
Excellent video, we’ve all had these happen at some point. I am curious about the memory speeds. I may have just wasted a ton of money on ddr5 6000 sticks paired with a z790 mb. Is there some simple calculation to determine gear 1, I have a 13700k.. also the wifi antennas are a perfect.
also interested, i have a 13700k and ddr5 5600 mhz and i get a lot of memory related crashes without modifying ram settings
Thank you for the info. I am still using an Intel Core i7 3770K with an MSI RTX 4060 Ti OC 16GB. 32 GB RAM. I can still play the latest games.
Thanks for this well done video.
I also use Argus monitor as I set everything to the water temps of my reservoir. I disagree with using NZXT Cam as it's just more bloatware especially after you said not to add the motherboard bloatware software.
+1 on slightly increasing memory voltage if you can't boot with XMP enabled.
My first (and yet only) pc was like 4 years ago and it was kinda "easy" i just watched some tutorial for the build and got recommendations for the build from CZcams videos and discord servers
It’s really plug and play. ITX builds can be very annoying though.
@@SECshock really? Kinda wanted to build an itx, now you're scaring me :/
Why not use a torque wrench for cooler installation? I am a mechanic, so I have a few torque wrenches around. When I install a cooler, I tighten it to 30 or 40 in. lb. in a crossing pattern. Is it totally necessary? Maybe not, but it is an easy way to ensure you have even pressure on your IHS.
Not mixing modukar cables is one thing....how do you feel about cable extensions and 90 degree adapters for 24 pin?
for the tip with the fan controller id rather just have the fans constantly at max speed since noise or power arent problems
always fresh install ur os when building a new pc. save ur stuff from the old pc on a external drive and drag the files afterwards back onto ur new system.
check for bios updates and check ur ram speeds in bios.
Say what you will about Windows 10, but I upgraded from Intel i5-2500K to a Ryzen 5600 and it just downloaded the correct drivers and sorted itself without a hitch.
Fun fact: I could also reuse the CPU cooler😊 I love PC building :-)
One iv found is make sure the case you're going to use has the same IO options of the Board you're going to use. Example front panel USB A-C some cases still don't have both it's one or the other 🤦♂️
I believe the RAM speed (rating) is MT (mega transfers) not megahertz (clock speed). So DDR4 3600 runs at 1800MHz and does 3600MT / s.
Correct.
ok
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What motherboards are featured in this video?
Pretty spot on. Good vid.
And never touch the contact strips of the RAM and the CPU. You can cause static shorts and contact difficulties.
Forgot to peel off the plastic cover of cpu cooler before mounting it. I can't believe I did that when I upgraded my cooler 😆
PC Part Picker saved my ass many times, although I hate it sooo sooo sooooo much when they don't have listed on their PC Building List popular/good components, such as CPU Coolers, cases, PSUs, and heck, even some GPUs
I know it takes them time to update the list, either they remove it/add it laters, but I believe there are components that I still don't find to this day, and not even that old
The corsair commander core XT also gives you the ability to drive system Fans off GPU temperature .
thanks for the insightful video
Never thought of using an external fan hub controller and basing it off of gpu temps. I’ll look into the Argus Monitor first. Thanks!
Memory stability with ryzens... On my 5600x setup with B450 mobo stock XMP profile is setting DRAM voltage to ONLY 1.23V where 1.35V is recommended
What other components? CPU and gpu are all that matter. You just figure out base performance and pick cpu based on rendering speed or emulation speed or best budget choice.
1:20 yeah, when i built my pc in 2019 with r5 3600 on b450m motherboard, i had problems like this even pc not starting anymore cmos had to reset many times, but as time passed updated bios many times it fixed it self, makes sense taht am5 is havign same problems now...
I did number 6 back when I built my first PC 10 years ago lol. Had to call EVGA support and lie like; "Yeah, the monitor is connected to the graphics card and not the motherboard." Then I told him I had to hang up and fixed something I had been battling for 2 days.
That was me, i knew all along.
When it comes to thermal paste, i use enough to spred it across the whole cpu ihs, than i add a pee sized ammount on top of that to fill in any gaps and divots when the cooler is placed on the cpu
A lot of focus on the 4700 ti bump to super. As im building my first pc i just wanna know if its worth getting it or not
id like to point out that cpu doesn't matter if you don't care what quality or performance you want with your aaa games. your cpu should be picked to work in tandem with your gpu to provide the best performance with minimal bottlenecks.
As someone who is putting together a build now and
1. is using the 13600k with a powerful GPU (RTX 4070 Windforce)
2. is using DDR4 3600MHz memory in the future config
this was extremely satisfying to watch lol, you just reassured my choices, great video btw!
use ddr5 for new builds my friend, esp with latest procs, theyre too fast for 3200-3600 ddr4
You really should not be using DDR4 memory on a 4070 build.
The most recent building mistake I made was that I got a case with 4 usb ports on top but I got a motherboard that only has one usb header. Meaning only 2 of my 4 case usb ports work. Not the end of the world considering the motherboard has plenty of usb ports as well but definitely something to consider when shopping for your motherboard 😂.
2:52 "fresh install is the best way to go" spoken like true nuke & pave artist.
I have a quick question about the 13900k, how necessary is it to replace the bracket from the stock to the thermalright one, if i use the pc for rendering (mostly on GPU tho) but occasionally i utilize 100% of CPU, and sometimes temps reach 80-85°, and when the utilization is 100% temps could get up to 90-100° (but that’s not for very prolonged periods)
Note: MB ASUS TUF z790, CPU: 13900k (not overclocked), MB thermaltake liquid cooler (360mm rad, not sure which one exactly)
if you are replacing the heatsink you should replace the bracket, the distances and tolerances may not line up across different products. unfortunately it means disassembling and reassembling almost the entire pc
Just recently build my own pc instead of calling my brother to come over and help, so this time I actually decided my new build I’m gonna do it by my self. Sure it took time but afterwards I was like damn it was actually easy, why did I not do this from the first time
do I have to wipe everything? or just fresh install Windows, since I really don't want to reinstall my 2 TB of games with my current internet speed
Thanks for the info
Ali I am looking fwd to another lowest possible PSU comparison. With AMD RX7900xt gpu.
Are you going to review the new benq 1440p monitor/ 240 hz ?? I’m interested on what you may think
Im super guilty of #3 lol , just did it going from z590 to b660 😅
What is the best ITX motherboard for intel 13 gen and DDR5 ram??? I feel like reviews on all ITX boards are mixed or nonexistent. Thanks in advance
4090 owners, take note of step 12!
I switched from i5 8500 and b365 to b550 and 5 5600x and I just plugged my storage in and good thing it worked lol.