BEST Method For Applying THERMAL Pastes & Compounds - Change My Mind

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  • #ThermalPaste #AMD #ChangeMyMind #ArcticMX4 #CPUCooling
    The BEST method for applying THERMAL pastes and compounds
    Change my mind!
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    Applying thermal paste is one of those taboo subjects in the PC and tech World and everyone has their opinions, but most seem to fixate on temps, but that isn't the full story.
    If you have ever tried to remove a CPU cooler and had the CPU come out with it and maybe damage some pins (AMD users mostly) then you know the feeling of total shock and fear that you might have damaged your prized CPU.
    This generally happens due to two main reasons, the wrong paste or just too much of it.
    So learning to use the right amount will help the thermal process and also to allow removal and replacement of CPU coolers and thermal compounds nuch much easier and most of all safer.
    Please comment if you think this makes sense, or tell us about your favourite methods, and results you get. Better still try this method and see if it improves your temps and ease of use.
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Komentáře • 268

  • @mikesunboxing
    @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +2

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  • @ClickaNerdKilleen
    @ClickaNerdKilleen Před rokem +51

    The spread method is the best hands down. I use a blue painters tape around the cpu then spread. Put the tape 1/32nd of inch in on the cpu itself. After application, peel off the tape for a perfect application. When you apply the cooler, it will squeeze perfectly to the edge and not drop to motherboard or glob underneath the cpu. Same process for 32 years without error.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      That's a great idea!

    • @wh0tube
      @wh0tube Před 10 měsíci +2

      Do you wipe off the masking tape adhesive from the edges afterwards? OCD! 😁

    • @goorthiss
      @goorthiss Před 9 měsíci +3

      You should try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect.

    • @belik0va
      @belik0va Před 8 měsíci

      Brilliant!

    • @Darkk6969
      @Darkk6969 Před 8 měsíci

      @@goorthissphase-change material Honeywell PTM7950 was actually tested on LTT and showed to work pretty well.

  • @CNC295
    @CNC295 Před rokem +13

    Thanks Mike. This is probably one of the best tutorials on applying thermal paste I've seen in a long time period definitely gonna share it with folks. Thanks

  • @iancurrie8844
    @iancurrie8844 Před rokem +13

    You are 100% correct and us old timers who used to apply paste directly to the die with no heat spreader know exactly why. It's just a tiny thin layer to fill in microscopic gaps in the mating surfaces. Nothing more.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +6

      sound advice old timer :-) - wait that is me as well :-(

  • @smithrj1
    @smithrj1 Před rokem +7

    Method may not matter, but “pre”-spreading let’s you see amount across the cpu, and also is more satisfying. Great video!

  • @user-rn3eb2jn5t
    @user-rn3eb2jn5t Před rokem +6

    Hey Mike I'm excited to try this spreading method as I mostly use the small pea dot method. My new paste came with a spatula just like the one you used here and I can see it's going to be perfect for spreading. Awesome video, thanks! :D

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      please give it a go and let us or me know how you get on.

  • @johnbowser2612
    @johnbowser2612 Před rokem +29

    When I started building computers back in the late 90's, I would spread with my finger. That's the only way to be sure that it spread in the right way, in my opinion

    • @danieldevito6380
      @danieldevito6380 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Then you risk spreading oils from your finger onto the CPU

    • @johnbowser2612
      @johnbowser2612 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@danieldevito6380 I always use alcohol wipes for cleanliness!

    • @chriss2082
      @chriss2082 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@danieldevito6380or wrap your finger with some plastic wrap and then spread it 🤷‍♂️

    • @Averagedude-mi3fl
      @Averagedude-mi3fl Před 5 měsíci +2

      Been building PCs for years. I also always use the spread with finder method. No issues doing it that way either. Used to use Arctic silver 5, but have changed to Arctic mx4. Pretty happy with it and spreads out easily in my opinion.
      To be honest I just keep a rag like an old washcloth or old towel of some kind and gently wipe off the old paste when needed. Perhaps I should use wipes but no issues with just wiping off the paste so far.
      As far as the cpu coming up when removing the cooler, I’ve found start your system up for about 5 minutes to heat up the cpu. Shut down, loosen the cpu cooler and give it some gentle twists side to side to break the seal of the paste between the cpu and heatsink.

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 Před 4 měsíci

      @@danieldevito6380Which does exactly what?

  • @metrotechguru5863
    @metrotechguru5863 Před rokem +2

    Well done, Mike. The spread method is the one I have always used and always had good results.

  • @timinamegames
    @timinamegames Před rokem +10

    I agree with spread method. Thats the most favorable in between contact with heatsink and cpu 👍

  • @MontrealMMA
    @MontrealMMA Před 5 měsíci +1

    I agree about removing stock cooler paste. I installed a Corsair AIO and had to remove it shortly after. It was splotchy with some bare bits, apply your own.

  • @Lennox032
    @Lennox032 Před rokem +5

    I always totally spread the entire cpu like you mentioned. works so much better than dot in the middle I just my finger though!

  • @406mill
    @406mill Před rokem +18

    Also worth mentioning for coolers with exposed heat pipes on the cold plate is to use the spread method in the little gaps on the cold plate before mounting, what's left on the spreader after doing th CPU is usually enough.

  • @Senrab46
    @Senrab46 Před rokem +1

    Great tutorial. Having followed many videos abiut pea or rice method I have always worried that the cpu wudnt be covered fully. Totally agree with idea of spreading the thermal paste👍 Use arctic mx4 after watching one of yiur videos when building d'ters pc late 2019. Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath👍

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      thanks nick, it just makes sense thin layer and total (or near ) coverage, allowing for the maximum thermal transfer and minimal paste will just file the gaps as it should

  • @makiwa
    @makiwa Před rokem +1

    Yes Mike, I have recently adopted the "Plunge'n'Spread" method.... You just get consistent results!

  • @amitpalsingh5571
    @amitpalsingh5571 Před rokem

    Thank for the demonstration... It helped me to reduce the CPU temperature

  • @rickh8380
    @rickh8380 Před rokem +1

    Great review Mike and Lady Kath. I do not lap the CPU, but I do lap the bottom of the cooler. I too prefer the Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. I use to only apply paste to just the heat pipes...but have since started using the spread method. Take care all. Cheers

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      Thanks for sharing! i need to get some thermal grizzly paste i think

    • @mypokemon
      @mypokemon Před rokem

      i use deep cool cheapest thermal paste for more than 20 years with much better results trust me brand is just a jimmick and thermal grizzly is one of them even though it produce good results.

  • @Goodknight47
    @Goodknight47 Před 4 měsíci

    You sure have the right tips for a new pc builder. Good video 👌

  • @BrandonBurch
    @BrandonBurch Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks so much! I favorited this for when I upgrade my CPU. Seeing you do this slowly and methodically gives me more confidence. I can actually see what you're doing because of the close-up. Thanks for that.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Glad it helped! hope you feel confident when you come to do it yourself

    • @BrandonBurch
      @BrandonBurch Před 4 měsíci

      @@mikesunboxing update: I did it!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@BrandonBurch awesome! hope the video gave you a little knowledge and confidence to do it

  • @PaulBakewell
    @PaulBakewell Před rokem

    That’s my most preferred method. Great video thanks Mike. I am guessing will be a popular one.

  • @Atacado2000
    @Atacado2000 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great, this tutorial emphasizes everything that I thought but haven't seen so well explained/shown. Also great that you filmed the whole spreading process so there is no doubt on how to do it. It's important to understand that the thermal paste is designed to minimize microscopic air gaps and irregularities between the surface of the cooler and the CPU's heat spreader (the top plate). So putting to much can affect the thermal conductivity that is supposed to be directly between the surface of the cooler and the CPU's heat spreader. This is also why you need a god thermal paste as the MX-4 (or MX-6) with a high thermal conductivity value [W/mk].
    Much appreciated... thank you!!!
    .oO(this video should be a reference to everybody working with thermal paste on their processors)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 4 měsíci

      thank you for the kind comment, glad it helped you

  • @mickywoods
    @mickywoods Před rokem

    Looks good - will definitely give that method a go next time - Carey Holzman uses his finger (with a rubber glove) but achieves the same effect - thanks for another great tuition video

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      yeah that works well, just make sure it is even and not over applied and that will make removal a lot easier after

  • @pablomax9376
    @pablomax9376 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Old video, but it's worth mentioning that I always used the thin-ish film as you demonstrated on my many PC builds.
    I needed to remove my AIO cooler a couple weeks back to fix a hard to reach cable and decided to see what would happen if I put a much thicker film on there.
    I used at least double what you did and what I used to do.
    I can say that my temps dropped 3 degrees c.
    So, I saw a big difference using more paste.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 6 měsíci +1

      that is pretty interesting. Some coolers if they don't have a flat base, or ridges for heat pipes can benefit from more paste

    • @pablomax9376
      @pablomax9376 Před 6 měsíci

      @@mikesunboxing It's a sample size of one cooler.... so take that as you will. I think GN did a huge video on it and determined that as long as you have enough to cover the whole thing, it does not really matter at all.
      With GPUs though, error on the side of too much.

  • @LONGTRANGBILL
    @LONGTRANGBILL Před rokem

    Totally agree Mike. Spread method is spot on...

  • @patricklebel1141
    @patricklebel1141 Před rokem +1

    Watching that while spreading butter on my toasts.... This works great for that too, no more dry spot on the bread. Thanks! 😁

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      Perfect! where do you think i got all my practice :-)

  • @bennyhill4228
    @bennyhill4228 Před rokem +4

    Mike that was so therapeutic to watch, now if you don't mind my walls need plastering 😃

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +3

      Lol! I need some plastering done too! 😂

    • @mikep9418
      @mikep9418 Před rokem

      James from Kitguru does an excellent job of spreading thermal paste on CPUs, and he did used to be a plasterer!

  • @uglybob7505
    @uglybob7505 Před rokem +3

    You put that compound on there however you want mate. Its 2022, good looking lad like you can do whatever he wants 🙂

  • @chriss2082
    @chriss2082 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video. When i first did it i put too much on there and when i put the cooler on , it was ugly and messy 😆. Glad i watched this video 👍

  • @HOLLYWOODlosANGELES
    @HOLLYWOODlosANGELES Před rokem

    *J'ai vu plein de méthodes d'application de la pâte thermique sur le processeur (sur CZcams), mais votre méthode me semble bonne aussi...* Je pense que c'est votre méthode que je vais appliquer sur mon futur 13900 finalement.
    Merci, bon travail !

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      merci d'avoir pris le temps de commenter et j'espère que votre build Intel se passera bien

  • @UltimateTechHub
    @UltimateTechHub Před rokem +2

    Spread method works Fantastic. I use to use the X method inside a square but this method is how I do now. For some reason I really like applying thermal paste. Very satisfying for some strange reason. Lol

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      it really is, next up how to plaster over a network port hole :-)

    • @UltimateTechHub
      @UltimateTechHub Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing Even MORE satisfying!!!

  • @OlettaLiano
    @OlettaLiano Před rokem +6

    Hi, Mike. The spread method is 100% Oletta approved. I've done it that way for years. I also believe lapping the CPU and Water-block is an important first step before applying the paste. In regards to the paste itself, I only use Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut because it doesn't harden over time and it's highly thermally conductive without being electrically conductive. Per example: Idle temp for my OC Ryzen 9 3900X averages 9 degrees above room ambient, and after a 15 minute run on Cinebench R23 max temp 71c. Cheers!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      thanks oletta, and nice temps

    • @PapaMav
      @PapaMav Před rokem +1

      @Oletta Liano I am sure you have become very good at lapping...

    • @OlettaLiano
      @OlettaLiano Před rokem +1

      @@PapaMav Only Rosa knows for sure. 😂

    • @uglybob7505
      @uglybob7505 Před rokem +2

      @@OlettaLiano I know who to come to in the future for spread methods

    • @OlettaLiano
      @OlettaLiano Před rokem +1

      @@uglybob7505 Sweet, and I know who to invite over for lunch. 🧛‍♀

  • @renevo3171
    @renevo3171 Před rokem

    Hello really very good info,Thanks and new subscriber from The Netherlands

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      Thanks and welcome to our little tech community glad to have you in our group

  • @markberry8182
    @markberry8182 Před rokem

    Spread method is best. Reapplied mx4 on my 3400G and used the supplied plastic spatula thingy. Less is definitely more. Less cleaning up on next re-application and also more applications from the 4g tube. Just run cinebench a few times temperature dropped by a couple of degrees the score after reapplying was a bit less for some strange reason lol. Top video Mike👍

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      thanks mark, and yes i totally agree less is more

  • @thecrazygamerful980
    @thecrazygamerful980 Před 2 měsíci

    Literally did my first ever thermal paste replacement today. Thanks for the video was able to get my cpu to go from 75 to 65 🎉

  • @Einherjar_17
    @Einherjar_17 Před 2 měsíci

    Excelent vídeo, thanks!.

  • @johnforrest4373
    @johnforrest4373 Před rokem +1

    Looking at that I've probably put to much on, but it is working. That thinner layer could squeeze a couple of more degrees perhaps?
    I'm getting a constant 43 degrees sitting in bios for a few hours, with 3 x quiet case fans at 50 % ish, 5600G/A520M-DS3H, Amd wraith stealth heat sink block, slightly extended. I've replaced the CPU fan with a TUF 120 AIO, but set to start at 48 degrees. Intend a temperature ceiling of 63 degrees, and only case fans when idle / light browsing.
    I need to get some software installed to see what it does in action, (not gaming). Still to get a external 5.25"drive enclosure as the thermaltake H15 case 5.25" Bay, won't take much LG BDe data writer, clashes with the power plug, by 30mm !
    I've a FX6300 to re-compound , once the new build is loaded, so surely will be the spread method. 😉
    Really enjoying your videos, thanks 😊

  • @maulcs
    @maulcs Před rokem

    I've always used spread, only way to truly guarantee it's covering the full IHS.

  • @opoxious1592
    @opoxious1592 Před rokem

    This is exactly the way how you should apply thermal paste on your cpu.
    I never have seen this video.
    But i also found out due trial and error that this way is the most effective way for maximum cooling.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      i agree, it saves money and works well, and also doesn't end up like glue

  • @JS-lv5pn
    @JS-lv5pn Před rokem +1

    I always did the pea method since like 2001, and this drops temps I was curious what people was doing with AMD I used 5 dots which my 3700x only went to 67c full load so not bad. Now my 5700x is a little hotter imo so I did this and its under 70c in gaming now.

  • @malibuhalibi9687
    @malibuhalibi9687 Před rokem +2

    for high-end cpu I normally using use x pattern

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Před rokem +4

    Any method that ensures thermal paste coverage of the entire cpu IHS / die is fine imo. TIP: FOR REMOVING CPU FROM HEATSINK / COOLER ….IVE FOUND RUNNING CPU FOR FEW MIN’s THEN SWITCH OFF PC AND THEN TWIST (after cpu screw removal) THE HEATSINK GENTLY WHILE CPU IN SOCKET HELPS DETACH AND REDUCES CPU BEING RIPPED OUT OF LOCKED SOCKET! As thermal compound becomes more runny and less tactile 🥰👍🤯 Great video Mike! I’ve use various methods but pea and spatula method for me are most commonly used👍😇

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      a stuck cpu is never a nice thing and it always scares me, but since fully adopting the thin spread method not one single cooler has gotten stuck and most actually just fall off - which is excellent!

  • @WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie

    I mix MX-4 with NT-H1 and using the spreader.
    done it this way for some years now. 😀

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      i might get some noctua paste well my stock of mx4 runs down a bit. there was a special offer on mx4 and i bought way too much of it

  • @tomfordbeauty8350
    @tomfordbeauty8350 Před 10 měsíci

    I've always been using the 'dot' method with full load 79 degrees. Since I deep cleaned my pc, my friend told me to use the spreading method. I did it and at full load it went from 79 degrees to 62 at max. Huge diff.
    Before spread idle: 50 degrees
    After spread idle: 33
    I have a Ryzen 5600x with Noctua NH-U12S redux. I use Thermal Grizzly that came with a spreader.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing

    • @danieldevito6380
      @danieldevito6380 Před 9 měsíci

      If you dropped 17°, you probably did something wrong the first time because there's no way you should've lowered your temps that much just by using the spatula.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 9 měsíci

      @@danieldevito6380 where did i say that part, i need to recheck that section, i certainly wouldn't see that much difference, you are right, but i can see where i said that

  • @PapaMav
    @PapaMav Před rokem

    Mike, have you run any tests for temp differences between this method and the traditional "pea" method? I get what you are saying about AMD CPUs getting removed when removing the cooler; would you say the spread method is more important when using an AMD CPU vs Intel? Thank you as always for the insights.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +2

      yes i have done previously and with the pea it is about consistantly getting the right amount which is hard to know unless you take the cooler off to see the coverage.
      the pea method for me often gives slight variations when testing so i like the spread method as i can work it the same pretty much every time. In terms of actual differences is it almost nothing in it unless you compare a poor pea application and then it is still only maybe at the most 3 degrees or thereabouts.
      for me it is more about the ease of removal and trying to prevent the cpu ripping out when changing coolers

    • @PapaMav
      @PapaMav Před rokem

      As I thought. Thank you Mike.

  • @paalosordoni7932
    @paalosordoni7932 Před rokem +1

    Strangely enough changed my thermal paste last night , have always used the spread method, great informative video Mike ,stop saying Zeee its Zed, your English. ;)

  • @jamesmiscellaneous
    @jamesmiscellaneous Před rokem +1

    I do it the same way Mitch Haman said he does it. Some people used to think thermal paste helped with cooling, it doesn't. It impedes cooling. As Mike pointed out it's simply the lesser of 2 evils, a gap of air is worse than a gap filled in with TIM. In a perfect world the IHS and the heatsink would be perfectly flat and mate across both surfaces perfectly. Things are often far from perfect, just look at the variation in core temps on some intel CPUs, even intel can't get dies to disperse heat evenly to the IHS. This is why people delid, lap CPU die, and sometimes even lap the bottom of their heatsink/block. So I'm not gonna try to change Mike's mind. He's right. 😎

  • @TheBigBlueMarble
    @TheBigBlueMarble Před měsícem

    You want 100% coverage of the IHS. True, the heat producing elements are of the CPU don't extend completely to the edges, but it is the job of the IHS to "spread" the heat evenly across the entire surface and you want to allow heat from all areas to pass into the cooler.

  • @h3inz
    @h3inz Před 7 měsíci

    There was also a video about different thermal paste applying methods that concluded that the spread method is also most efficient thermal wise.

  • @Wellibob68
    @Wellibob68 Před 2 lety +1

    Mike gets his spatular out.
    I think it varies with application.
    Me. A pea dot in the middle. Not too little and a little more can't harm.
    My patience to spread the paste out has long since gone.
    Cheers Mike.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 2 lety

      as you know from the recent results from the 5800x (thanks to you) the spatula thin spread method works well and also makes it easy to remove the cooler without the cpu coming with it. I hate it when that happens

    • @Wellibob68
      @Wellibob68 Před 2 lety

      @@mikesunboxing I'm older, but NOT always wiser, in fact I'd check every thing I do 😉

  • @anthonytaylor8465
    @anthonytaylor8465 Před 9 měsíci

    I apply a thin bead along one edge of the cpu and use an old credit or debit card and press n spread to the other edge, perfect!

    • @AaronWOfficial
      @AaronWOfficial Před 8 dny +1

      I've done that for years as well, it is definitely the best way to get a nice thin layer in the least amount of time. The heatsink pressing down on the cpu will of course cause minor amounts of excess, not enough for it to matter though. I guess if you were a neat freak, u could do a thin bead a quarter inch away from that one edge before spreading to the opposite side another quarter inch away, then allow the heatsink to naturally spread it when you screw it down to the cpu. Not necessary, but maybe nice for people with OCD XD

  • @MitchHaman
    @MitchHaman Před rokem +2

    Good method Mike.
    I've spread it with a credit card or my finger in a plastic baggy.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      yeah use what you have on hand, even rubber gloves

  • @luckyman1324
    @luckyman1324 Před rokem

    and i still come back to this vid 7mths later and stand by the spread method with a glue spreader in a multy pack made for crafting with wood glue

  • @Wilko101
    @Wilko101 Před rokem

    Great video. Why did you leave round the edges though?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      the compression will squish out the paste to the edges after a while, and too much compound on the edges solidifies and "glues" the cooler to the CPU

  • @lJUSTwanaCOMMENT
    @lJUSTwanaCOMMENT Před 9 měsíci

    I always suspected spreading is best. But after years of hearing unspread works as well, I figure take the easy way out if it's all the same. But after watching this, I will be going with what I originally suspected.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 9 měsíci

      the thing is that under compression generally speaking the paste "should" all squish out like in the spread method, but it isn't an exact science and thicker pastes won't squish as well as thinner ones obviously.

    • @AaronWOfficial
      @AaronWOfficial Před 8 dny

      the problem with unspread, is a lot of the newer gen cpu's are more rectangular now than square so the spread when pushing down the cooler will be uneven and won't cover the top\bottom portion of the cpu. the pea method did work fine before-hand, but now I think its a lot more inefficient.

  • @SleepyDogg
    @SleepyDogg Před 7 dny

    I typically submerge the motherboard in thermal paste but this method does look better.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 7 dny

      give it a go next time and let us know how it goes

  • @dimmacommunication
    @dimmacommunication Před rokem

    The problem is that with the GC extreme it's almost impossible to apply a thin layer , either you get a lot or none.
    Temps were sky high .
    I prefer the Arctic Mx-2 , will try MX-4 also just because :) super cheap to buy ,why not ?

  • @ItsMotoMatt
    @ItsMotoMatt Před 4 měsíci

    Admittedly I stressed A LOT about this before installing my Ryzen 7600. I ended up using the uncooked pea method. So far so good!

  • @paulg5437
    @paulg5437 Před rokem

    On the AMD coolers with pre-applied paste are we saying its inefficient application for heat transfer? I can usually get the cooler off the CPU by letting it run to warm the paste first then wiggling it.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      the paste is a low quality and has a really sticky consistency, warming it up and or twisting the cooler will get it off in most cases, but why risk breaking the cpu for the sake of a few moments carefully applying paste, it might even give better performance

  • @jimst8435
    @jimst8435 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @412Sunil
    @412Sunil Před 5 měsíci

    Why not use the spread method on the heat pipe surface of the cpu cooler? Or is the heat pipe surface bigger than the cpu surface so the chance of paste spreading out outside cpu surface is greater? Anyway only apply thermal paste either on the surface of the cpu or cooler, not both ofcourse!
    By the way I am convinced of the spread method. Before I always used the dot method but since the introduction of heat pipe coolers the spread method is in my opinion the best. Other methods give insufficient spread out after pressing the cooler down.
    Also there are different kinds of heat pipe surfaces. Some of them are separated by aluminum or nickel metal between the heat pipes and other surfaces of the heatpipes form one solid block, the heat pipes are welded together and form one block. Maybe it is an idea to make a video of different surfaces of cpu heat pipe coolers and what the benefits are and how to apply thermal paste.

  • @def-po8tu
    @def-po8tu Před 2 měsíci +1

    That hair coming off the cpu bracket drives me nuts, lol

  • @luckyman1324
    @luckyman1324 Před rokem

    well wot can i say i always use spread method but with grizly and works realy well as i changed from pea method

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      That's awesome! that seems to be a common theme that people are using thermal grizzly, need to try it

  • @FromBKI
    @FromBKI Před rokem

    just get thermaltake TG 30 thermal paste,..included with it is honeycomb stencil & a spreader, easiest way if you r bothered with too or little paste, it gets the job done perfectly.

  • @thomasjenkinson728
    @thomasjenkinson728 Před rokem +3

    Used to use the dot but with am4s poor clamp method I've moved over to spreading!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      spreading is the best option for so many reasons

  • @mikep9418
    @mikep9418 Před rokem +3

    MX4 spreads great but MX5 not so much. The last time I tried spreading MX5 there was more left on the spatula! I've since gone back to using MX4.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      the first batches of mx5 where horrible to spread and the wrong mixture i think. the new stuff is a different consistancy and spreads easily

    • @mikep9418
      @mikep9418 Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing That's good to hear but I think I'll stick (or not stick as the case may be) with MX4 anyway. Cheers.

  • @dom_toredo
    @dom_toredo Před rokem

    Watching to put the thermal paste that came with the alseye m240. Is it a good thermal paste or I should buy one? It says thermal conductivity 7.5w and resistance 0.6 and 25% silver.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      it was pretty good when i used the branded stuff, not sure if it is the same in the kit though

    • @dom_toredo
      @dom_toredo Před rokem +1

      @@mikesunboxing ok

  • @marcusbinder890
    @marcusbinder890 Před rokem

    the problem of spreading the dough with the spatula is the appearance of air bubbles the best is the dice method with the 5 points

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      any then you introduce massive air pockets between the dots

  • @aryannarose
    @aryannarose Před 4 měsíci

    Best way is to get an AM4 offset brackets and some Arctic MX-6 thermal paste using a small thin spatula and spreading an evenly thin coat.

  • @CyberClu
    @CyberClu Před 4 měsíci

    I've considered the spread method for years, but I kept reading that there's more of a chance of tiny micro bubbles that would arise, rather than just doing the pea or rice method, which would lead to inconsistent and higher temps?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      A micro bubble is better than a totally missed section.

    • @CyberClu
      @CyberClu Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@mikesunboxing Okay, I'll try it out. Thanks!

  • @iitzfizz
    @iitzfizz Před 9 dny

    I used a pea method of applying when I recently installed my assassin king (with the included TF4 paste) didn't think about spreading it, I used a little more than you showed here but not much more, I'm a worrier and was thinking about removing the cooler to use this method, should I just leave it be? My temperatures on a 5600G (not using the APU, I have a 6750 XT) are around 30 degrees idle, 35-50 degrees under light-medium load and 65 degrees under heavy load, does this sound about right?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 9 dny +1

      sounds fine to me, maybe it could be optimised but i don't think you will see any major difference if any

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz Před 8 dny +1

      @@mikesunboxing Thanks, yeah I think I am just overthinking it. From watching videos testing different methods there really isn't much difference between all the different ones as long as you use sufficient paste. All those temperatures too have been taken over the past few days where I'm sure you're aware, we're having hot weather in the UK too so pretty high ambient temps. Maybe if I re-paste in the future I'll try this method but I think you're right, no point in taking it off cleaning it all again and wasting more paste lol.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz Před 8 dny +1

      Really appreciate your help btw, you're videos in general are very informative, clear & concise.

  • @matthewday7565
    @matthewday7565 Před rokem

    I'm always afraid that pre-spread is going to trap voids that would be swept by the squish method.
    I'll always pre-spread a naked core though

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      squishing is squishing however it is applied if the pressure is enough

    • @DM-zr7vc
      @DM-zr7vc Před 11 měsíci

      @@mikesunboxing based reply

  • @ramyrawitcher9127
    @ramyrawitcher9127 Před rokem +1

    The best thermopaste to date is Noctua NT-H1 lubrication thermopaste this method is the best 😎👍

  • @sovietonion9542
    @sovietonion9542 Před 10 měsíci

    With something like the i9 13900k wouldnt this be too thin to cool such a beast? Should i add a small bit more?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 10 měsíci

      add as much as you like, most thermal compounds are not conductive so won't be a problem, just more to clean up when doing maintainance

  • @zman2994
    @zman2994 Před 7 měsíci

    how can I spead the thermal paste without a applicator spread tool? I have MX-4 45g, but no spread tool?

  • @developer6619
    @developer6619 Před rokem

    Ive seen this spread method creates air bubbles. Wont it make perfomance worse?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      doesn't seem to, that is why i smooth it out many times to try and prevent that, and besides i would rather a few micro bubbles and be able to remove the cooler easily without breaking pins or being stuck to the cooler

  • @matk22
    @matk22 Před 3 měsíci

    Great coverage.... 🤣

  • @406mill
    @406mill Před rokem +2

    Yep, spread 100%

  • @charlottehunter5420
    @charlottehunter5420 Před měsícem

    Oh Jeeze! I used a quarter of my 4 gram paste. Mine probably looks like a sloppy Joe under the cooler. lol

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před měsícem

      more is often better than too little, don't worry it will be fine

  • @TheBigBlueMarble
    @TheBigBlueMarble Před měsícem

    I have been using the spread method for 20 years and never understood how anyone ever thought another method would be as good. I do see that most people use too much paste when using this method. You only want enough to fill the gaps where the IHS or cooler plate are not perfectly flat and will leave air-gaps. IHS to cooler direct contact is great, but not consistent.

  • @wxlf1573
    @wxlf1573 Před 24 dny

    What should I use if I don’t have a plastic spreader? I only have a metal one.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 23 dny

      that should be okay just be careful or use a rubber glove and use your finger

  • @digitaldemonicdavros3893

    I use the spread too

  • @matthewsmith22
    @matthewsmith22 Před rokem +2

    I'm one of those that just smears it with my finger 😂

  • @Tribellion
    @Tribellion Před rokem

    Just for discussion - how often do people change/repaste their CPUs ??

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      That is a very valid question. Most arguably never do. But for those that like to swap coolers and try new configurations this method can save a lot of agro

  • @georgemorley1029
    @georgemorley1029 Před 4 měsíci

    Yeah I think you’re probably about right because the spread just means that (simply put) enough paste is on everywhere that it needs to be.

  • @truthseeker6532
    @truthseeker6532 Před 11 měsíci

    Have you tested spread then dot on top?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 11 měsíci

      That also works very well but can add to the cleanup if you are using too much

  • @Karn0010
    @Karn0010 Před rokem

    Agreed.

  • @robbyrock-drummer
    @robbyrock-drummer Před 6 měsíci

    How many Ryzen CPU you can cover with MX-4 8g ?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 6 měsíci

      LOTS! never counted and depends on the paste method. could be around 20

    • @robbyrock-drummer
      @robbyrock-drummer Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks Mike. That was what i needed to know. Your channel is by fare the most usefully pc related channel.@@mikesunboxing

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 6 měsíci

      @@robbyrock-drummer That's very kind of you 🙂

  • @SheckleRFan715
    @SheckleRFan715 Před rokem

    how many months should I re-apply my thermal paste?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      in theory you should be able to leave most decent thermal pastes for many years, but if you are seeing a steady rise in temps that is a sign that the paste might be hardening and needs replacing, maybe once a year as part of general housekeeping is about right

  • @galloe
    @galloe Před rokem

    Is this recommended for a newbie who's about to make his first build? I feel I might fudge it up, spread unevenly, have to try over and over, eventually get discouraged and throw the entire PC away.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      if you mess this up you really should not be building a PC, harsh but facts. If you have ever spread butter on toast or jam on bread it isn't much different, if you need help please ask

    • @galloe
      @galloe Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing I guess we'll have to wait and see until it's done.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      @@galloe Good luck

    • @galloe
      @galloe Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing Went great!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      @@galloe Glad to hear that - good job 🙂

  • @fuzzymuffinsthe3rd
    @fuzzymuffinsthe3rd Před 5 měsíci

    Oops. I bought the ak 620 deep cool and used the whole tube.😅 Hopefully its fine

  • @cebuanostud
    @cebuanostud Před rokem

    A dot inside a square method works for me.

  • @Acc3l3ratoR
    @Acc3l3ratoR Před 5 měsíci

    This is the old method , dinosaurs like me did back in the days, even with the finger... and it allways worked fine !

  • @cdog25z
    @cdog25z Před 10 měsíci

    This might sound really dumb to a lot of people but I am terrible at this method! I tired it on my third build and I couldn’t get it to spread it just kinda smushed and looked dry. If that makes sense lol? I think I wasn’t pressing down hard enough (worried I might press too hard and damage the cpu socket). Does anyone have any tips?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před 10 měsíci

      it will also depend on the paste you are using some are thicker and hard to spread, with those a small rice grain on top works okay

  • @cbijames7
    @cbijames7 Před rokem

    Hey do u make gaming desktops for people to purchase??

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      for local people i can do, i don't ship PCs it is way too expensive at the moment and the risks with DPD bouncing them around etc

    • @cbijames7
      @cbijames7 Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing r u located in Florida by chance??

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      Lol no sorry Bristol UK 🇬🇧
      Maybe see if Greg Salazar can fix one up for you, he is Florida based

    • @cbijames7
      @cbijames7 Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing ok will do.

  • @bdhale34
    @bdhale34 Před rokem +2

    The objective best way to prevent the CPU from being pulled out when removing the cooler is to take 2 entire seconds to twist the cooler left and right a little bit before pulling it away. The method of paste application is far less important to this issue. Any method can harden and glue the cooler to the chip, a small twist frees it every time.

    • @MrNerdSmasher
      @MrNerdSmasher Před rokem

      pretty much this.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +2

      i would love to agree but that isn't always the case for me and for a large number of our viewers, especially with those that have the stock AM4 or intel coolers.
      And besides why risk damaging an expensive processor and waste thermal paste and performance?

  • @ConfusioNIntrusioN
    @ConfusioNIntrusioN Před rokem

    doesn't the liquid metal thermal paste spreads itself proper though? :)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      probably it is very lightweight in terms of viscoscity

  • @dimmacommunication
    @dimmacommunication Před rokem

    Yeah the spread method is always best :)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      It really is! and makes separation so much easier next time

  • @rylansawyer9162
    @rylansawyer9162 Před rokem

    Air bubbles don’t matter?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      only if you can physically see them in my opinion

  • @1stUniqueName
    @1stUniqueName Před rokem

    have anyone tried to dilute the paste so it is more fluid so it can spread betteR?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem

      that probably isn't a good idea to dilute the formulation

    • @1stUniqueName
      @1stUniqueName Před rokem

      @@mikesunboxing will work if the diluent is something that evaporates.

  • @BerserkBrownie
    @BerserkBrownie Před rokem

    makes sense... you want the paste as less as possible (only to fill all the gaps and microscopic irregularities)... you do not want that forbidden oreo... metal is still better conductor than paste and paste is better conductor than air...

  • @The_Trojan
    @The_Trojan Před rokem +1

    I used to be a pea method man, then I switched to X... I really cannot tell the difference to be honest. Admittedly spreading does seem to make sense. Pretty much any method is ok except of course if you use the line method, then don't bother talking to me!!! :)

    • @uglybob7505
      @uglybob7505 Před rokem +2

      I tend to use the same shape as the symbol on the latest Ed Sheeran album 🙂

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  Před rokem +1

      lol