Thank you for sharing! I'm new Harley, just got a 2016 FLRT w/6700 miles . Definitely doing a stage 1 and maybe stage 2 down the road . I have a fuel pack 3 in an unopened box, most likely to return it . For my 500.00. then do as you suggest, go with Dino jet. Thank for your candid view
There are different versions of the Dynojet. The power vision 4 is simular to the Vance and Hines like you showed. Fuel moto is the best to buy from because they will provide custome tunes with the tuner you buy from them
I had a Stage 1 Screamin' Eagle kit on my 2020 Softail Standard, tuned by the SC Pro Street tuner. I wasn't happy with it. With my Shortshots, it popped bad on decel. I pulled the plugs, and they were grey-white, which is running lean. Brought it up to Harley and they said that's just the limitations of the tuner and what they're legally allowed too do because of the EPA crackdown on their tuners some years back. Anyway, it'll get you by if you want to maintain your warranty, but as far as tuners go it's a pretty poor one. When I bought the Fuelpak FP3 and installed just a canned map, the way the bike ran and even sounded was totally different, and it's not running lean anymore! Decel pops are 99% gone, exhaust tone is way more throaty (I attribute that to getting proper fuel now) and low end torque has massively increased. Bike doesn't lug at real low RPM like it used to. Plugs are a nice golden brown color. V&H definitely makes a solid product.
Well from what I understand now, you can use any tuner and not void your warranty. So that's a good thing. IMO. I like the dyno jet power vision. Much better than the Fuel pack 3.
Ive had a stage 2 on my heritage 2021,114 and SE pro street tuner & thought I would ok with the SE cam. but the mechanic installed the S&S 475G cam and its a pig to tune im losing faith what should I do?
I would definitely get it re-tuned. If they did the tune, find some where that does performance tuning. But I would replace that tuner with one from Dunojet.
@@DrHarleyThanks for getting back to me. I was thinking about buying the V&H FP3 IT LOOKS IDIOT PROOF. THE OTHER OPTION IS THE PV3 FROM WHAT I CAN SEE. WHICH ONE ?
@@DrHarley I can’t afford a dyno tune lol. But I’m playing with the SE pro street tuner becuase that’s what I have. I think if one takes the time to manually calibrate the lower positions and the deceleration it’s possible to get your bike happy going 30mph. Now most places won’t mess with it. They will do one maybe 2 auto tunes and call it good. Buying a different tuner won’t work unless you’re able to download a tune someone else made and it work out for you. But the chances of that are slim. I don’t think fuel moto tunes deal with the low positions and decel. You just gotta take the time to manually get it tweaked once you’re done with the auto tuned z
Yes dyno tunes are expensive. But we'll worth the investment. I have used the fuel moto tunes until I get to a dyno. They seem to be good enough for now. But a custom tune is the way to go for best performance and fuel efficiency
@@DrHarley honestly if you’re using a fuel moto PV3 or 4 you can probably easily enrich the decel on the tune and save as new. I almost bought one but I figured I’d just use what I got. I have bought a PV3 from fuel moto a few years ago for a Indian scout and I had the same issue. I think EFI big twins all have that issue due to emission laws. Good thing about is working on these Harley’s is a million other guys are as well and we can all share what we’ve learned.
Thanks!! An honest review can be hard to find these days.
Thank you. All my reviews are upfront and honest. It does not matter weather I paid for the part or it was gifted tto me.
Great video helped me make the decision on which turner to go with. Going with the Pro-vision tuner. THANKS
Awesome. Great choice IMO.
Thanks pal. Really useful video!
Glad it was helpful!
thanks for the info. gonna be really helpful after i get my bike
I am glad that this video was a help to you.
Thank you for sharing!
I'm new Harley, just got a 2016 FLRT w/6700 miles . Definitely doing a stage 1 and maybe stage 2 down the road . I have a fuel pack 3 in an unopened box, most likely to return it . For my 500.00. then do as you suggest, go with Dino jet.
Thank for your candid view
I am so happy that you enjoyed my review. I am speaking from personal experience. Best of luck, and I hope you enjoy your build.
Are you looking to sell?
Nope. Thanks for asking.
@@DrHarley broo I can’t find em anywhere I’ll pay top dollar!
Great and helpful information.
Glad it was helpful!
There are different versions of the Dynojet. The power vision 4 is simular to the Vance and Hines like you showed. Fuel moto is the best to buy from because they will provide custome tunes with the tuner you buy from them
Fuel Moto is the company I buy from when ordering performance parts.
Question , my dealership is installing the se cam and se tuner and their saying a dyno tune isn't necessary.
They are correct and wrong at the same time. They might have a tune from a previous dyno tune that they use from a similar bike and setup.
Will you void your warranty if you install the pro street tuner yourself, Or does it have to be dealer installed
You can install it yourself. But it should be tuned by the dealer or someone who has that knowledge.
No that's the only tuner that will not void your warranty
I had a Stage 1 Screamin' Eagle kit on my 2020 Softail Standard, tuned by the SC Pro Street tuner. I wasn't happy with it. With my Shortshots, it popped bad on decel. I pulled the plugs, and they were grey-white, which is running lean. Brought it up to Harley and they said that's just the limitations of the tuner and what they're legally allowed too do because of the EPA crackdown on their tuners some years back.
Anyway, it'll get you by if you want to maintain your warranty, but as far as tuners go it's a pretty poor one. When I bought the Fuelpak FP3 and installed just a canned map, the way the bike ran and even sounded was totally different, and it's not running lean anymore! Decel pops are 99% gone, exhaust tone is way more throaty (I attribute that to getting proper fuel now) and low end torque has massively increased. Bike doesn't lug at real low RPM like it used to. Plugs are a nice golden brown color. V&H definitely makes a solid product.
Well from what I understand now, you can use any tuner and not void your warranty. So that's a good thing. IMO. I like the dyno jet power vision. Much better than the Fuel pack 3.
Ive had a stage 2 on my heritage 2021,114 and SE pro street tuner & thought I would ok with the SE cam.
but the mechanic installed the S&S 475G cam and its a pig to tune im losing faith what should I do?
I would definitely get it re-tuned. If they did the tune, find some where that does performance tuning. But I would replace that tuner with one from Dunojet.
@@DrHarleyThanks for getting back to me.
I was thinking about buying the V&H FP3 IT LOOKS IDIOT PROOF.
THE OTHER OPTION IS THE PV3 FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.
WHICH ONE ?
The FP3 will not tune a stage 2 correctly I tried and worked with Vance and Hines back an forth over the phone and email.
@@DrHarley Right, so its the Dyno jet PV3 then.
Thanks for reminding about your experience with V&H.
The FP3 will not tune a stage 2 correctly I tried and worked with Vance and Hines back an forth over the phone and email.
The issue with these “auto tuners” they starve fuel on deceleration and on lower throttle positions.
That's a great point. I always say a dyno tune is the best way to go.
@@DrHarley I can’t afford a dyno tune lol. But I’m playing with the SE pro street tuner becuase that’s what I have. I think if one takes the time to manually calibrate the lower positions and the deceleration it’s possible to get your bike happy going 30mph. Now most places won’t mess with it. They will do one maybe 2 auto tunes and call it good. Buying a different tuner won’t work unless you’re able to download a tune someone else made and it work out for you. But the chances of that are slim. I don’t think fuel moto tunes deal with the low positions and decel. You just gotta take the time to manually get it tweaked once you’re done with the auto tuned z
Yes dyno tunes are expensive. But we'll worth the investment. I have used the fuel moto tunes until I get to a dyno. They seem to be good enough for now. But a custom tune is the way to go for best performance and fuel efficiency
@@DrHarley honestly if you’re using a fuel moto PV3 or 4 you can probably easily enrich the decel on the tune and save as new. I almost bought one but I figured I’d just use what I got. I have bought a PV3 from fuel moto a few years ago for a Indian scout and I had the same issue. I think EFI big twins all have that issue due to emission laws. Good thing about is working on these Harley’s is a million other guys are as well and we can all share what we’ve learned.