The 3 Best Tuners for Harley Davidson

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    This week I tell you why I like the tuners from Harley Davidson, Vance and Hines, and Dynojet.
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  • @truckstomotorcycleswithtom3197

    I have the V&H Fuel Pak 3. I did a stage one air cleaner upgrade on my 2017 Street Glide and ran an auto tune. I had a slight hesitation on take off, nothing critical but did want to find out why. Stopped in a parking lot and called the support line at V&H. Technician was really helpful. asked if he could connect to the bike, which I allowed, he downloaded my tune, made changes and uploaded it back to the bike. All while I was in the parking lot. Fixed the hesitation and runs great. Much props to V&H for excellent support. Hope this helps.

    • @Sicksporty72
      @Sicksporty72 Před rokem +3

      Oh wow, that’s amazing

    • @c-seventeenloadmaster8952
      @c-seventeenloadmaster8952 Před rokem +1

      I have a similar story regarding V&H customer service. I like the ability to have a dash display on my bars with any technical data I could want. Also, I auto tune every season off of the base map (Fxdls w/thunderheader) and you can instantly feel the difference after one minute of flashing the new map.

    • @RBoysMedia
      @RBoysMedia Před rokem +1

      You should get a portion or the money because you just sold me their product in less than a minute. Thanks.

  • @NOWAY-jw3iq
    @NOWAY-jw3iq Před 4 lety +157

    John, I think your the best "Harley-Davidson" guy on CZcams. Wishing you nothing but success.

    • @jonbassett8023
      @jonbassett8023 Před 4 lety +1

      No sheet. Guy's a natural. Really enjoy his vids!!

    • @anthmartin5072
      @anthmartin5072 Před 3 lety

      Absolutely

    • @MrJump12k
      @MrJump12k Před 3 lety

      Love the vids as well...I can't even fathom that I am the best "Harley Davidson" guy on CZcams...just have had ridden them since 1970...and the bulbus helmet just is not a cool look....sorry...old school bro...You are the new age 'GO PRO" school...

  • @roddewey5347
    @roddewey5347 Před 4 lety

    I had a Dynojet PC5 on my 2011 Road Glide Ultra CVO, and just as you pointed out in the video, it got crushed and damaged under the seat. To Dynojet's credit, they did send me a new unit, but I opted instead to used the Vance and Hines tuner and could not be happier with the results. Great video brother...keep 'em coming!!!

  • @bsmagee86
    @bsmagee86 Před 4 lety +11

    I been running the powervision with target tune, works pretty well on my head, piston and cam swap. Pretty simple to use.

  • @barnastil591
    @barnastil591 Před 3 lety +27

    Ive got the FP3. I've been happy with it and like you said V&H suport is amazing. I sent them the map, they optimized it and sent it back. I think it's a good option for those of us who aren't pros.

  • @Kman1960
    @Kman1960 Před 4 lety +6

    V&H FP3 - has worked great for me on 14' HD CVO Ultra w/110. I especially like the Sensor Data Live readout available on my Iphone via Blue tooth. I'm able to see Engine Temp, HP and Torque while riding.

  • @BT2SS
    @BT2SS Před 3 lety

    You answered my question within the first couple minutes, but I continued to watch the entire video anyway like all the rest of your videos. Love your stuff. Thanks.

  • @Doucettedon
    @Doucettedon Před 4 lety +2

    I’ve had my powervision since 2011 when I purchased my FLHTFB. My bike was way too lean was plagued with pretty nasty decel pops and ran so hot the rear cylinder was constantly shutting off. I installed V&H short shots and a Ness big sucker, fired up the dynovision and fattened up the AFR a bit and although my fuel efficiency suffered a bit as expected the ride ability issues are gone and the bike hauls ass. Now I intend to install the target tune and a Barnett Scorpion clutch as the stock clutch leaves a lot to be desired. Great vid man, thanks, good luck with the new shop.

  • @tcatnat70
    @tcatnat70 Před 4 lety +6

    Good stuff John, thanks. I did my own stage 1 install and tune on my 2010 FXDC with a PowerVision and it was super simple. That being said the map I loaded was not an exact match and I eventually did a few sessions on autotune to smooth it out a bit. I did do the PC hookup thing and immediately realized this was way over my head so I never did any manual tuning that way. My current FLHR came with a stage 1 and FP3 already set up. The bike runs pretty smooth and I have considered running an autotune but haven't taken the time to do it. Maybe you just gave me the kick in the a$$ I needed.

  • @slyguyaction
    @slyguyaction Před 4 lety +3

    I know it’s not the best tuner for a variety of reasons but I’ve been really happy with the results using the FP3 on my 2015 Limited and 2013 Sportster 72. Both have only Stage 1 mods. Love it!

  • @NickF6.6
    @NickF6.6 Před 4 lety +2

    Didn’t even think about that issue with the ThunderMax, glad you posted this I was looking at buying it for my RG. Totally changed my mind!

  • @jrarseneau7589
    @jrarseneau7589 Před 2 lety

    I've been using FP3 for about 4 years and absolutely love it and tech support is amazing. I leave mine hooked up all the time and love that I only have to use my phone to do or change anything.

  • @wanderlustprime8687
    @wanderlustprime8687 Před 4 lety +6

    You're 100% right about V&H customer service - received the FP3 last week, would not connect to iOS device, quick troubleshoot and they overnighted a replacement, boom.

  • @danbutler8398
    @danbutler8398 Před 4 lety +25

    Had a thunder max put on my 2010 FLHTCU when I put in the 5150 SS cam, and SS exhaust. I love the set up.

  • @waynesiminski8268
    @waynesiminski8268 Před 4 lety

    Great informational video my man. I kinda like you just sitting and giving us good info once in a while. Nice change up. Thanks

  • @TheImtoomuch
    @TheImtoomuch Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Very informative and I like your humorous delivery without being over the top and obnoxious. Subscribed.

  • @djKail05
    @djKail05 Před 4 lety +5

    Power Vision all the way! Love being able to dive in and make changes on the PC and knowing that when I build my motor I won't need another tuning device!

    • @danielcarroll5667
      @danielcarroll5667 Před 2 lety

      Did my own nitrous tune , worked great (no blown engine !) Have the Target Tune on the Bike too .

  • @LifeontheBlacktop
    @LifeontheBlacktop Před 4 lety +11

    I have the power vision and for the past 7 years I've told myself I'm going to learn how to use it. Still on a base map... 😜

  • @cmercer58
    @cmercer58 Před 4 lety

    John, My Kove Commuter 2 just got here today. Great call, these are now my goto portable speakers. The speakers get two dirty thumbs up. Hope you got them back and are in the new shop. Congratulation on the new shop and a new journey.

  • @scottbrower2119
    @scottbrower2119 Před 4 lety +2

    Good video, I'd love to see one on basics on tuning, things you can/should do and then things you CAN but shouldn't!

  • @saddle8bag
    @saddle8bag Před 4 lety +8

    Regular tuners aren't actually closed loop. A narrowband sensor only tells you if you are running above or below stoich and makes a slight adjustment to a base open loop map.
    A wide band sensor can detect the actual O2 in the exhaust and run a closed loop equation to keep the AFRs near spot on in any condition. No open loop map required. Though the closed loop function runs kinda slow so it's often handy to have an auto tuner spit out open loop base map coefficients and let it run that way if you aren't planning a ride from Death Valley to the top of Yosemite during your ride.

  • @sharkzf6
    @sharkzf6 Před 4 lety +3

    Two of my Harleys, Twin Cams, use the FP3 and the other uses the Screamin Eagle. Yep, warranty issues with the Road King with M8.
    The FP3 is superior but if I were doing it again I would spend the extra and get the Power Vision. The user friendly nature of it and the high quality you just
    can't ignore. You get what you pay for!

  • @cruiserbrewser
    @cruiserbrewser Před 3 lety

    I’ve been using the FP3 on my 2013 FXDB for a few years now. It does the job for the most part. Been wanting to try the power vision as well though. We shall see.
    Keep up the good work man!

  • @gulfwarillness326
    @gulfwarillness326 Před 3 lety

    I absolutely love your videos Bro, I have learned a lot from them. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming.

  • @shanecoker8566
    @shanecoker8566 Před 4 lety +6

    I was thinking about putting cams in my bike until I put a wide band tuner with 2 into 1 exhaust, screaming eagle breather. It is unreal how much of a difference there is in my bike now. Wide band tuner saved me a lot of money and engine work.

    • @tetlow2
      @tetlow2 Před 4 lety +2

      Just think how badass it will be with the cams on top of it.

  • @itemps
    @itemps Před 4 lety +4

    New fan and I don't even own a bike. Used to have a sport 883 that I loved. Sub!

  • @jonreynolds6248
    @jonreynolds6248 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks, John. Great info as always. You're the best HD tech dude on CZcams in my book. Just now you probably saved me the expense of a tuner, since the '18 FLHTKL is under extended warranty. Don't think I'll piss away $ on a tuner just now since I don't ride hard anyway. No sense in flagging the warranty first time I take it in for service. Thanks again for the good sense advice -

  • @iamlegionforwearemany9289

    I used the Vance and Hines fp3 on my bike in the past very easy to use especially if someone like me that isn't smart phone friendly was able to use it

  • @peterbalint7257
    @peterbalint7257 Před 4 lety +6

    Have PV for several years and love it. Also let’s you monitor engine performance in real time if you mount it to your handle bar.

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, that's what I'm doing. PV2 with Target Tune. Graphs set to a big RPM gauge with oil pressure, engine temp, and fuel economy gauges to the right.

  • @timdavis8154
    @timdavis8154 Před 4 lety +3

    I was lucky and got a harley auto tuner before the EPA made harley pull it off the shelf. Timing is everything.

  • @bav114
    @bav114 Před 4 lety +1

    Great work John. Keeping us sane is appreciated 👍🏻

  • @rckingracer
    @rckingracer Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the breackdown really apreciate you taking the time to make this video

  • @Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234
    @Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234 Před 4 lety +9

    I used the Fuelpack with my 2010 Superglide. Made a bad running bike from the factory run like it should.
    Cummon HD!!!

  • @MOTOSARGE
    @MOTOSARGE Před 4 lety +23

    Really enjoy my FP3. It’s incredibly user friendly for sure.

    • @jonbassett8023
      @jonbassett8023 Před 4 lety

      Me too!!

    • @joshieOle87
      @joshieOle87 Před 3 lety

      I should buy a fp3 and a header pipe

    • @sgtrock2821
      @sgtrock2821 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah I put one on your ole lady and she went from draggin her teeth to deep throat no gag.

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Před 3 lety

      I have yet to see a dynograph of an FP3 tune that looks anything like a half decent curve. Each and everyone I've come across are absolutely horrible, with torque dips right in the range most people ride of up to 30 ft-lb. That's over 30% less power than the engine should/could be making with a solid tuner like the Dynojet PV2, TTS, or T-Max.

  • @cjmorris6831
    @cjmorris6831 Před 4 lety

    Thanks John Maxwell I really am waiting for this COVID-19 to pass and work to get back to normal before adding tuner to my 2019 SG Blue Max been favouring the Vance & Hines great video sir!

  • @brianstrelick6098
    @brianstrelick6098 Před 4 lety

    Have the screaming eagle on my bike that’s under warranty and you just convinced me to buy two FP3 s for my out of warranty bikes! Great video!

  • @ParrishCubed
    @ParrishCubed Před 4 lety +6

    My Harley is currently in the shop. I wish you were my tech.

  • @cabby316
    @cabby316 Před 4 lety +6

    Love how you mentioned "if you have the stage 2 SE, the Pro Street is awesome" I did that on my 18 sgs and yes it is way more power than stock and since I got the ESP I'm good on the warranty end too. Win win as far as I'm concerned. 😎😎😎

    • @sonboogie
      @sonboogie Před 3 lety +1

      Awesome. Getting the same done next week. Excited!

    • @robertmcdougal2966
      @robertmcdougal2966 Před 3 lety +1

      Except for the factory ecm speed limiter. 109 mph

    • @cabby316
      @cabby316 Před 3 lety +1

      @@robertmcdougal2966 all I know is one day I was clocked doing 208kph.

    • @robertmcdougal2966
      @robertmcdougal2966 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cabby316 Cool, about 130 mph. The Harley davidson dealership i was speaking with informed me that on my 2019 softail the SE Pro Street would not alter the speed limiter for my bike which is set at 109. I'm glad it worked out for you. I'm looking at a power vision or FP3 so that I can optimize my top end. Good luck, brother and keep it between the ditches!

    • @stevec8836
      @stevec8836 Před 2 lety +1

      Cabby- I am doing same as you ( SE tuner and SE torque cam) but have s and a slip ons with bassani head pipe. Do you think my exhaust choice not being a Harley one screw up my results ? Do you think it will run well??

  • @bobbendt1698
    @bobbendt1698 Před 4 lety +1

    John good video for those intimidated by what tuner to get. Thanks and dirty thumbs up.

  • @marckelly4670
    @marckelly4670 Před 4 lety

    My Power Commander 5 flamed in the middle of of 3k mile ride. Now have the FP3 and love it. I so agree taking off the tuner is a huge bonus. Thanks for this video great info.

    • @Daxm15e2s
      @Daxm15e2s Před 4 lety

      Damn. No kidding. I just put one on my Harley fxbb and i live in Az.

  • @rodneybarcus2233
    @rodneybarcus2233 Před 4 lety +6

    Hay John yes it totally stinks about the warranty deal. I'll have to leave mine stock until out of warranty. Thank god I have the 114 M8.

    • @kpnomad7
      @kpnomad7 Před 4 lety

      Lost 3 gear. Moco denied warranty! Hoping tuner keeps bike cooler/richer for long life engine!

  • @dejonsmall9886
    @dejonsmall9886 Před 4 lety +5

    TTS Mastertune, been using it for over 8 years.

  • @jonbassett8023
    @jonbassett8023 Před 4 lety +1

    Got the V&H Fuelpak3 to go with my Arlen Ness deep cut monster sucker, V&H power duals & SVT Bonshakers. Couldn't be happier!

  • @coronalandsucks
    @coronalandsucks Před 3 lety

    Nice recap. Couldn’t agree more with your comments on the PC5. We had to pull it off my brothers RK after 3 years because weather did it in and the bike was running like crap!
    As for the T-Max ECM, mine works very well and it does give full access to all the codes and programming fobs and transport mode is all the same as stock. Best part is, your bike is running rich and giving all the HP possible! No EPA shit here!
    Thanks for all the great videos! 🛵

  • @thatbeardedweldingteacher
    @thatbeardedweldingteacher Před 4 lety +10

    You mentioned reseting the PIN with the fob. Could you do a video on how to do that?

  • @kevinwhelan6055
    @kevinwhelan6055 Před 4 lety +4

    Hey John thanks for still posting! Can I bring the FP3 to a Dyno and they tune it? Thanks again! Stay safe and healthy

  • @jamesfisher2478
    @jamesfisher2478 Před 4 lety

    Great channel. Thanks for great info.I saw you at the World Record Ride in Paris, TX. I wish I could have met you in person. I am on my fourth Harley. The first three I only did Stage 1. My current bike, a 2017 Road King Special, I did Stage 2 with the S&S 465 cam and their cam plate, oil pump, lifters and billet tappet cuffs and Screaming Eagle adjustable pushrods and Extreme Flow intake combined with V&H Daytona 400 slip ons. I have used V&H FP3 on all and I have never been disappointed. I admit, I have never had a bike on a dyno and I may not know what I am missing, but my RKS with the above parts runs like a dream even though I use the map from the FP3. It is a thrill to ride. For the average rider the FP3 adjusts way more than a non professional probably ought to fool around with, but I like to be able to download a map, adjust throttle response and read codes and, since I leave mine hooked up under the left side cover, I can use my phone for real time information on a ton of things too numerous to list here. And you are right about V&H customer support in real time via phone, outstanding, can't be beat. Thanks, again, for a great channel.

  • @HDlife2
    @HDlife2 Před rokem

    Thanks for the help man I was stuck on which one to get

  • @fwgarage2351
    @fwgarage2351 Před 4 lety +9

    What are your thoughts on the TTS Mastertune? I have tuned a few bikes with it and it seems pretty versatile, I think we sold them for $450 I think. On a side note I have an old power vision in my toolbox that I use just to read codes which is pretty handy.

  • @TonysGarage
    @TonysGarage Před 4 lety +3

    I used the FP3 for a 1275 kit on my 883. While it worked it was little tedious.

    • @eveythingthatsadam
      @eveythingthatsadam Před 2 lety

      Selecting a map and flashing it to the bike with your phone is tedious?

  • @sadletrampsscooby
    @sadletrampsscooby Před 4 lety

    Hi John I use powervision and they helped me remotely accessed my lap top to make a map for my CVO pro street checked it on a dyna after was running so nice

  • @tomchristian4304
    @tomchristian4304 Před 2 lety +1

    I have and love the FP3. Super easy to use and great support form V&H.

  • @chargerman426
    @chargerman426 Před 4 lety +8

    So I just called Zippers performance who are the major distributor for the thunder max and they said that all you should have to do is plug the stock ecm in to do any of the security fobs and other things you mentioned you couldn’t do with the thundermax. Zippers is local to me hence why I wanted to know if there would be a problem with the security system stuff as the thundermax is what I will likely go with.

    • @newbelgium4
      @newbelgium4 Před 4 lety +2

      chargerman426 Thunder Max is a great product and will allow you to tune any option available. The one problem is it replaces your ecm. If you swap back to stock ecm, you have a stock tune because your Thunder Max ecm isn’t installed. Talk to Jaime at Fuel Moto. He doesn’t have a dog in the fight and sells both, the Power Vision and the Thunder Max. Also,they sell cheaper than the manufacturer on both.

    • @kylemoore9626
      @kylemoore9626 Před 4 lety

      Thundermax doesn’t use the M8s knock sensors, harleys Delphi computer is way better than the thundermax, the power vision Delphi combo is the best

  • @ramimator
    @ramimator Před 4 lety +10

    Great Video...what about the TTS that a lot of Harley Davidson dealers in Europe are recommending?..Thanks a lot for the infos

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking Před 4 lety

      Towcester Tuning Shop?

    • @jodybgoode
      @jodybgoode Před 4 lety +3

      I have the tts. I like it a lot.

    • @bthere7437
      @bthere7437 Před 4 lety +2

      TTS b fine, as good as PV...it's all about the competency of the dude doing the tuning. As long as you can get into the ecm..it's good.

    • @invertedmenace2838
      @invertedmenace2838 Před 3 lety +1

      Tts is a great tuner one of the best cannot go wrong and if thats what theyre familiar with even better!

  • @atvking400
    @atvking400 Před 4 lety

    Great video brother, lots of good info. Thank you for everything you do.

  • @joseespinoza5391
    @joseespinoza5391 Před 4 lety

    Thank you brother for all the great information on our bikes.

  • @gphilpot1
    @gphilpot1 Před 3 lety +3

    Also worth noting, the Power Vision has to run the Autotune cycle three times to more accurately adjust the cells when using the Narrow Band O2 sensors. DynoJet will only make incremental Cell adjustment each Autotune session to prevent damage to the bike by adjusting too much too quickly.

  • @r.c.mayhemp.n.w4180
    @r.c.mayhemp.n.w4180 Před 4 lety +11

    How do you feel about t-max
    I've had awesome support and it can tune almost any upgrade you will throw at it ...

    • @vanislandsteve
      @vanislandsteve Před 4 lety +1

      Matthew fisher love mine

    • @bigdawgqc
      @bigdawgqc Před 4 lety +1

      He explains in the video why he doesn't like the t-Max.

  • @lancmac
    @lancmac Před 4 lety

    I have a VH3 tuner on my 16... Love it.. It tunes itself ... Select your bike by model and VIN and then your changes from stock. It uploads a map and then when you ride it it does the modifications as needed from the canned map, like doing it on a dyno but on a ride. You can keep it in learning mode for an hour or months... After that you can leave it learning or hit save and remove the unit.. The app will let you see all the engine perimeters while riding easily on your phone. If you have to go back to the dealer reload your stock map and remove the unit.... All back like stock. After service reload your modified map and ride on...

  • @dbrennan1523
    @dbrennan1523 Před 3 lety +1

    I installed the FuelPak and the BEST feature of this is the throttle control. I set it to Moderate and a year later it is the best upgrade on my bike. I've rode in a club and we would ride hard, I'd have to throw my wrist back taking off and still not be fast enough at times. Being able to turn my wrist half as much but get the same acceleration is amazing. There is an aggressive and 1:1 setting as well, which I haven't tried but my concern is tickets. Even with moderate sometimes I speed faster than I'm thinking I'm going because how little I have to turn my wrist.

  • @cheezehdglen9468
    @cheezehdglen9468 Před 4 lety +4

    Any experience with TTS?

  • @SmittybuiltHD
    @SmittybuiltHD Před 4 lety +24

    Surprised no mention of tts mastertune... its basically a seprt on steroids with no epa restrictions. Steve Cole is the creator of tts and the early sert's were made by him. Steve wanted to make the serts more robust and epa free and Harley didn't so they parted ways.
    For the warranty side of things get a third party extended warranty. It will cover more options, cost less and aftermarket items like tuners won't void the warranty.
    Also there's been alot of issues with power vision and the screen blanking out. Fuel moto and dynojet are aware of this but nothing has been addressed yet to fix it.

    • @southernblueblood5402
      @southernblueblood5402 Před 4 lety

      when you are saying third party extended warranty are you talk about HD ESP extended service plan?

    • @SmittybuiltHD
      @SmittybuiltHD Před 4 lety

      @@southernblueblood5402 i had one back in 2012 i think. Can't remember the name but there was a couple. Esp i think is one ive heard about online.

    • @bthere7437
      @bthere7437 Před 4 lety

      I could pick a fav from the TTS or PV...but in reality it would b just that, my favorite. Either will accomplish the same quality of tune in capable hands.

  • @TheOdieD3
    @TheOdieD3 Před 4 lety

    I’m a big fan of this purchase. Opened my eyes to the Powervision. Ease of use and VnH parts prolly means a Fuel Pack
    Thank you for this vid. And... BTW... Really good teaching Mr Maxwell

  • @markdubone7154
    @markdubone7154 Před 3 lety

    That was great info as I've been thinking about adding a tuner to my 2017 road glide ultra

  • @MotoDUDEabides
    @MotoDUDEabides Před 4 lety +7

    I’d love more info on the SEpro tuner because it’s the only one I can install without voiding my warranty.

    • @GrassRootOutdoorWork
      @GrassRootOutdoorWork Před 4 lety +1

      The Motodude I agree. I’d be interested to see a rolling build of a under warranty bike from Stage 1 on to 4. To see what’s really reusable on each step.

  • @mattmeazy9988
    @mattmeazy9988 Před 4 lety +6

    Any thoughts or experience on the TTS tuner?

    • @invertedmenace2838
      @invertedmenace2838 Před 3 lety +1

      1 of the best tuners available. Make sure whoever's tuning bike is very familiar with tts because you can get into trouble if you don't know what you're doing.

  • @RoadglideST117
    @RoadglideST117 Před 3 lety

    Just got the power vision tuner on my 14 flhtcu and love it so far with the Arlen ness method air cleaner and the Vance and Hines exhaust I’ve just installed it seems to have woken her up a little. I’m going to play with the tuner a little for some help with decel pop and throttle lag, should be fun. I bought it from fuel Moto with a tune already installed and it seems very easy to use so far. Great recommendation sir , thanks man🤘🏻

  • @timothyvotaw7517
    @timothyvotaw7517 Před 4 lety

    John, you got my attention with this session. I ride an '06 FLHTC-I with the 103 SE upgrade, the 9:1 SE heads, SE 253 cams, and a roller top end. I put on Reinhart (sp?) True Dual pipes, then installed that ThunderMax ECM kit. Tossed the program on a little notebook, then dialed in one of the auto-tune selections closest to my set-up. Wasn't long b4 T-Max dropped off the planet, as seen with 7 year and older CZcams vids, nothing newer. I don't even know if they exist and can support the system any more. I take the OEM unit along on long rides, with its cabling, kind of a PITA. So, my dilemma, caused entirely by you and your video 😢, is whether to just return to the OEM ECM and pop for the Dyno unit, your favorite, which doesn't require a WiFi connection for my phone like the V&H unit. Kinda makes sense for the road, and the possibility the T-Max takes a dump in the Plains 2,000 miles from my shop, and replacements are defunct. Make sense to you?? Thanks, btw. Just jacking w/you, it was a helpful vid.

  • @lisar3006
    @lisar3006 Před 4 lety +55

    I miss the days of a feeler Gage a screw driver and a timing light to tune your Harley.

    • @larrybraden6640
      @larrybraden6640 Před 4 lety

      I heard that. All I want to do is richen up my fuel mixture and gotta buy a tuner for that? Jeez

    • @nobodysreview6137
      @nobodysreview6137 Před 4 lety +4

      You know, changing main jets in a carbrater was a lot of work too. I ordered this Powervision because its plug and play, ive decided to just enjoy it. Its cool

    • @Judas114
      @Judas114 Před 4 lety +4

      You miss the days of inferior engineering?
      Okay boomer.

    • @jonbassett8023
      @jonbassett8023 Před 4 lety

      seriously!? backfires & crank start?? No thanks!

    • @lisar3006
      @lisar3006 Před 4 lety +16

      @@Judas114 Boomers made the internet cell phones and major medical advancement. Your generation can't tell time on a clock with hands or change a car tire and I never saw a boomer eat tide pods. A motor you can't work on without an expensive computer or a trip to the HD dealership isn't an advancement. My 72 FLH is the best running bike of the three I have. The other two are twin cams and I am selling the Road King to buy an Evo.

  • @The_Bushman
    @The_Bushman Před 4 lety +6

    Can you recommend 3 tuners who know how to tune a Carby? Aint no computer on my EVO

    • @Tberg725
      @Tberg725 Před 4 lety +1

      Your tuner on a carbed evo is a screwdriver

    • @allanmccullough8550
      @allanmccullough8550 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Tberg725 And an assortment of jets.

    • @donaldbaker4166
      @donaldbaker4166 Před 4 lety

      Depending on what you have done, I went to a lectron carb on my built evo. It was the best thing I ever did for that bike, simple tool less adjustments. That bike was a constant adjustment after doing a full build with case work ported heads and big cams.

  • @duane9707
    @duane9707 Před 4 lety

    Great vid. Very informative.
    Thanks. You have my choice for tuning easy.

  • @dnoH
    @dnoH Před 4 lety

    Holy crap, dude!!!! What an amazing discount on that speaker! Got mine ordered. Thanks!!!!

  • @ShortStraw1095
    @ShortStraw1095 Před 4 lety +4

    Wondering why you don’t mention TTS MASTERTUNER?? Why don’t you like it?

  • @JaySorsby1
    @JaySorsby1 Před 4 lety +4

    I’ve got an old Orange Super Tuner, but I’m not educated enough (yet)to use it.
    -‘13 Wide Glide-

    • @raysmith4208
      @raysmith4208 Před 4 lety

      Jay S same here lol

    • @stevensimpson1043
      @stevensimpson1043 Před 3 lety

      I had an orange one on an older bike I had, loved it, picking up a black one tomorrow. I’ve heard due to EPA junk they aren’t as good as the old orange ones. Fingers crossed

    • @JaySorsby1
      @JaySorsby1 Před 3 lety

      What’s the price on the black one Steven?

    • @stevensimpson1043
      @stevensimpson1043 Před 3 lety

      @@JaySorsby1 I’ve found it for 250-300.

    • @JaySorsby1
      @JaySorsby1 Před 3 lety

      IMO:
      I’d save another $150 and get the PowerVision. But once cry once.

  • @justinturner4850
    @justinturner4850 Před 4 lety

    Vance and Hines FP3 is awesome. And the customer service is excellent! There was a time I couldn’t get my bike started. 10 min on the phone and the guy made adjustments on WiFi and my bike fired right up. You can see all kind of vitals on your phone in real time. Engine temps, intake temps, Rpm, gear, fuel economy, injector duty cycle, throttle position, and on and on. you can do things like decel pop And trouble codes and all kind of cool stuff. I’m super happy with it.

  • @bane1240
    @bane1240 Před 4 lety +1

    I have tried all 3 of these and the PV is the clear winner IMO, mainly bcuz I have more than 1 bike so it only cost me $199 for additional license to tune/auto tune from the same main PV unit. The FP3 was what I wanted to use on my 18LTD but unfortunately it failed and V&H had to send me a new one. With COVID19, I couldn’t wait any longer and contacted DynoJet and they sent me a tune file in email in less than a day and all is well. V&H did eventually send me a replacement FP3 but I dont need 2 tuners so I sold it.

  • @DeBa1226
    @DeBa1226 Před 4 lety +5

    I’m a big fan of all things Vance & Hines...

  • @7727Ropy
    @7727Ropy Před 4 lety +2

    I really like the Thundermax, it will self dyno as you drive...

  • @DavidSmith-fw6uj
    @DavidSmith-fw6uj Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for educating me and others

  • @SolomonHomestead
    @SolomonHomestead Před 4 lety

    Love your channel. I have long list of wish items and a tuner is one. This will be helpful

  • @billcarson1966
    @billcarson1966 Před 4 lety +15

    John, I'd very much like to autotune my other favorite ride...my girlfriend. Do these devices work on wives and girlfriends and if so, which ones do you recommend?
    She has a port available under her seat, but I definitely don't want this device to be permanently attached, as it would ruin the fun.
    Thanks in advance!

    • @thomass789
      @thomass789 Před 4 lety +6

      You're the man, YOU are the auto tuner. Or should I say, auto tune her.
      Unless you're one of those pussy ass dudes who behaves like one of them weak ass sitcom dads (you know the type, "duh, I'm just the dumb neanderthal man who can't even zip up my daughter's jacket without my wife, duh") then get crackin' and make it happen, captain.
      Auto tune her yourself! Deep down inside she'll love it, even if her girlfriends tell her otherwise. Lol

    • @tetlow2
      @tetlow2 Před 4 lety +1

      I just bought a remote controlled.. um tuner for the wife. And I can't wait till the world opens and we get to go walk around and make her squeal. Always good to keep it fun.

  • @user-pc7pc8yb3n
    @user-pc7pc8yb3n Před 4 lety +3

    Hey John, what are your thoughts on the Master Tuner by TTS? Ever play around with them?
    My understanding is, at one time, TTS made the Screamin Eagle tuner for The Motor Company. It was about the time H-D got their Dick stomped on by the EPA, H-D and TTS went their separate ways. TTS wanted to ADD to the ability the Screamin Eagle Tuner had and H-D said NO! H-D wanted to remove some of what was currently on the Screamin Eagle Tuner.
    Here is the link to the TTS Master Tuner: mastertune.net/products_mastertune.html
    The H-D Dealer I use has a Technician who builds and tunes H-D Drag Bikes, Strip not Street Drag Bikes! With a little “Magic”, he was able to get 101hp and 118ftlbs out of my slightly modified 103 Twin Cam! His “Magic” made my bike perform and sound GREAT! Next time we are shooting for 150hp 150ftlbs!
    As always, THANK YOU for making GREAT Videos!

    • @tracyblake9707
      @tracyblake9707 Před 4 lety

      What dealer do you go to?

    • @bthere7437
      @bthere7437 Před 4 lety

      Not John...FWIW, TTS is just as good as PV. TTS made H-Ds SERT "race tuner". Replaced by the "Super Tuner" in '08. TTS could never keep up with demand for SERTs...always on BO..limited quantities to dealers because of supply. This went on for many years...we assumed that's why H-D went to the Super Tuner from a diff vendor (Kent Moore), never an availability prob since.. Steve (TTS) must have covered his butt well about non-competing...cause they came out with the MasterTune shortly after Harley dropped them.

    • @user-pc7pc8yb3n
      @user-pc7pc8yb3n Před 4 lety

      @@tracyblake9707 One south of the Twin Cities in MN.

    • @user-pc7pc8yb3n
      @user-pc7pc8yb3n Před 4 lety

      @@bthere7437 I have a 2011 Street Glide 103. I had my dealer & dyno-tuner do an "Upgrade" once I had the 500mi "Break-in" on the clock. I'm happy with the results!

  • @user-mi6ji6hp7x
    @user-mi6ji6hp7x Před měsícem

    Love your videos, personality, and advice! Thank you.

  • @mattlespipes
    @mattlespipes Před 4 lety

    Thanks man! Keep these videos coming !

  • @ninor666
    @ninor666 Před 4 lety +3

    is it safe to leave the fp3 on the bike?

    • @twoboonies
      @twoboonies Před 4 lety

      Mines been on the bike for months, no problem

    • @newbelgium4
      @newbelgium4 Před 4 lety

      Ride With Dinosaur absolutely. Just take it off before you visit the dealer for any warranty work. The FP3 has limited tuning (tells ecm rich or lean at stoic) so it won’t change much. Wide band (18 mm) gives the tuner values to adjust by to create a better map.

    • @ninor666
      @ninor666 Před 4 lety

      thank you for the reply guys

  • @Unknown-jl8jt
    @Unknown-jl8jt Před 4 lety +8

    TTS MasterTune??

  • @027MC7
    @027MC7 Před 4 lety

    Pleasure meeting ya this past week. I was the one with the Dynatek Fusion tuner! Lol🤣

    • @TheHarleyTech
      @TheHarleyTech  Před 4 lety +1

      I had already filmed this video when you came in, and I kept thinking i wish I had that convo to talk about in the video!

  • @shanewalker2257
    @shanewalker2257 Před 4 lety

    Hi john love your videos. I have 2018 sport glide stock headers mated to bassani toad rage muffler that i have built a baffle for s&s 475 cam and se hi flow ac. Im running the hd auto tuner with an orange super tuner as we can still use them here in oz. We have helped the auto tuner along a couple of times throttle and rpms it doesnt see for long enough to read as haven't dynoed but now it is great on the road. Took a little bit of fiddling initially but that was part of the fun. Keep up good work.

  • @hoezaaa3838
    @hoezaaa3838 Před 4 lety +10

    Thundermax

  • @thecentralscrutinizer5105

    Which ones best for my 1989 XLH1200?
    LOLZ,... trick question, NONE OF THE ABOVE

    • @newbelgium4
      @newbelgium4 Před 4 lety +1

      Fone Zombie back when man ruled technology with manual force! 😂

    • @thecentralscrutinizer5105
      @thecentralscrutinizer5105 Před 4 lety +1

      @@newbelgium4 You got that right NB4! A new shorty carburetor was cheaper & more effective for me ;)

  • @tommm369
    @tommm369 Před 4 lety +1

    Johnnyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!! You rock dude! Great stuff as always.

  • @livtag2476
    @livtag2476 Před 2 lety +2

    I have the FP3 and the support as described by others is amazing, I have added cams etc & they tweak maps as required, great follow up service.

  • @kevinmcdermott8033
    @kevinmcdermott8033 Před 4 lety +3

    Thundermax!

    • @newbelgium4
      @newbelgium4 Před 4 lety +2

      Thunder max replaces your ECM, so if it goes bad your out $799. It is very in depth for major mods and leaves everything on the table. Can’t go wrong here. Great recommendation, but I prefer Power Vision.

    • @bigdawgqc
      @bigdawgqc Před 4 lety

      He explains in the video why he doesn't like the t-Max.

    • @jmorton1011
      @jmorton1011 Před 3 lety

      @@bigdawgqc and he is almost 100% wrong in everything he said about it LOL

  • @Stoney-Lawson
    @Stoney-Lawson Před 4 lety +3

    The old orange super tuner is as good as the power vision IMO.

  • @awa865
    @awa865 Před 3 lety

    I'm about to buy, this was very helpful, thanks.

  • @kevinbaughman2307
    @kevinbaughman2307 Před 4 lety

    Love your show.I like your style Dude! Yah..Sam Eliott is the coolest!
    You rank up there brother keep on sharing the knowledge! I'm still learning about my 2015 roadglide that I bought it last year from a Harley dealership and It came with mostly everything Vance Hines exhaust and they told me it had been put on the Dyno. It does back fire sometimes

  • @philiproberts6947
    @philiproberts6947 Před 4 lety +9

    My dealer installed my V&H Short Shots and FP3 from the showroom floor and flashed the Stage 1 map,guess my dealer void my warranty without even asking me.

    • @christopherwhitely6904
      @christopherwhitely6904 Před 4 lety

      No if you got the work done when new your good. I have a 883 and did the stage 1 all good.but that VandH fule pack could be a problem. Screaming eagle is the way to keep that warranty.

    • @SLO-Ride
      @SLO-Ride Před 4 lety

      My local HD dealer specifically pointed out, that the V&H does NOT void warranty, nor alter emissions, regardless if they do the install, or you do it at home. V&H also claims no warranty damage.

    • @RayBlack321
      @RayBlack321 Před 4 lety +2

      It comes down to ur dealer. Always take it to the same place. If you are road tripping and break down just tell them not to hook up to the computer. Once ur VIN is in the computer ur 2 year warranty is gone. Just talk to the local service manager at ur local Harley and they won’t do you dirty. It’s all EPA. It isn’t Harley, it’s the government I’ve been told. Had that issue on my 18 FatBob.

  • @petecarvo9284
    @petecarvo9284 Před 3 lety

    I have an FP3 on my '08 Sportster since the Stage 1 setup ran like crap cruising down the street, air/fuel was way off. The auto-tune option was so easy to use and got my bike running beautifully.

  • @catesg
    @catesg Před 4 lety

    One additional note about the Screamin Eagle tuner, in my experience only the Harley dealer will Dyno your bike. I was able to get good readings on the road but that was one scary ride. With my all Harley screamin eagle mufflers and breather the Road King runs like a dream and sounds awesome. For me that combo works but probably won't work for everyone. Great vid, thanks.

  • @tnraider3385
    @tnraider3385 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video John, could you make a video on the screamin' eagle smart tune pro?.