Cool Cars For Young People: The 2009 Honda Accord i-DTEC
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- čas přidán 14. 02. 2021
- In today's video we are looking at Matt's Honda Accord i-DTEC. Honda's attempt at going upmarket didn't work very well, with the car being too expensive compared with the more "premium" BMW 3 series.
However, with second hand examples available for very little - is the Honda now worth looking at used?
#Honda #Accord
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Thank You so much for this review . One of the few reviewers that isn't just bragging with what car they bought but actually reviewing vehicles that are affordable for most people .
It's a damn shame Honda stopped producing these for the UK. Reliable and easy to maintain. An excellent all-around car.
please make this a series! 🤞 p.s every young person watching your channel
Agreed.
Be great! 👍
Email him about reviews
YES! Please include cars that can be bought in the EU also.
Yep, I am a young person, I would love to know what cars are cool for us youngsters before putting my money in
I'm glad you did this one! I looked at these a while back for a cheap daily, almost exclusively based on styling alone. You don't see many around. A hidden gem in the world of cheap motoring, at least here in the UK.
I had a 2011 one of these, EX spec. Brilliant, very underrated car, and one I thoroughly loved owning.
They're shit.
@@jakemalatesta9592 You clearly know 'shit' all about cars! 😂
This generation of Accord are really cool inside and out, I'd take a petrol though
The diesel isn't too bad, just a bit expensive if something goes wrong.
@@MattBeardless i don't personally like turbos in general and even get frustrated when a petrol only revs to 6k.
So not a big fan of any 4k rev limit with a turbo
2.4 i-vtec
@@chrisogrady28 my other car revs to 9 😌
Had a 2008 2.0 petrol. One of the finest handling family cars. Lacked in power so would've liked to opt for the 2.4.
Do more young peoples car please - love your content
bit more background on this car... I was working for my local Honda dealer at the time and took this particular accord in as a trade in against a new Civic sport. That customer had bought the accord at 6 months old as an ex-demo. when he traded it in I was in a situation where I was driving 50 miles a day and at the time I had a Toyora Aristo (which I bought from Torque GT - Where Matt works now) it was costing me around £10-15 a day in fuel so I parked it up and jumped on the Accord. I've had a lot of Hondas but I can safely say that I genuinely miss this car. I fitted the BC coils (A vast improvement over the stock suspension - Jay mentions that it feels a bit bouncy and floaty, on stock suspension its like driving on air but not in a good way) also put the FN2 wheels on it with plans for some baller chrome VIP wheel but never got round to it. Matt doesn't let me forget I sold it either! haha! Honestly a great car but a lot of the shortfalls you mentioned are right. I would still take this over an old Beemer any day though. Nice review Jay, cool to see one of my old cars get its 10.47 mins of fame! :)
I was delighted when I read this title, it brings back great memories for me. I had a 51 plate Accord 2.0i SE as my very first car in 2009 as a 17 year old. I felt like the bees knees, my mates and school contemporaries who had passed their tests mostly had Polos, Corsas and Puntos etc. I loved that car, kept it for 5 years. Had many great driving experiences during that time, I used to pretend I was James Thompson driving his BTCC supertourer on my local back roads. It was reliable, practical, handled well, was good in the snow, and sounded superb with the VTEC. Worst problem was corrosion I’d say.
I kept mine for 10 years! The 6th gen was beautifully made car and was great great fun to drive.
These low key reviews of old cars are such a delight. Thanks JayEmm.
I've owned one of these for 6 years in Canada. With the 2.4L motor, a 6 speed manual and tuned with a Hondata. Was one of the best all rounders ever
Proper K24Z engine too
The Accord has always been one of those perfect all-rounders and in EX trim, does give you a a few creature comforts as well. Personally used to love the coupe (either 6th of 7th gen, cant remember which one) I don't think we got it as a UK model but I've seen a few imports and they're a pretty cool car.
As ever, excellent content sir! 👍
Love how he added Acura badges, opposite of what we do over here, LOL! Always the forbidden fruit but those Honda rims blow anything away ever offered on the Acura🔥🔥🔥
It's actually on 350Z GT RAYS now, @mattbeardless on IG if you want a look.
@@MattBeardless I'm sure it looks great but I'm that one person in the world who doesn't take part in social media😋
@@klasseact6663 you are on social media CZcams
turner yeah I know but it's not like FaceSpace, Twits or Instagratification, you know what I mean🤔
I nearly bought one of these years ago and went for a Passat instead. Wish I hadn’t, that car was about as exciting as a grey drizzly Monday morning!
It’s no BMW but anyone that thinks of a Honda as a Vauxhall rival is a fool.
Agreed. Honda in a different league.
I think I know what James means. Personally, although I respect Honda as a highly trusted company who's record on reliability is amongst the top tier of car manufacturers, I consider them to have a very on/off existence with thier cars. They either go all out Banzai on it with screaming engines and flailing knives, or they let some very old men in very beige shirts and a tie design it instead, as if passion and excitement is a rare commodity to be rationed out to only something with an R at the end of the name. There doesn't seem to be any kind of middle ground. Because the majority of the volume produced cars sold are the more "regular" type, people see the staide, beige imaged everyday Honda like the Jazz and think "they're the same sort of thing as a Fiesta or Corsa". Consequently, Honda are not as premium in image as they probably deserve. People like and respect thier reliability and thier safe choices whilst also seeing them as a little overpriced. Ultimately Honda lack the width of mode ranges to really be able to put enough of the produce in people hands at a price that matches the price or the expectation of some. So we find Honda in this weird stuck elevator level, not as attainable as a Vauxhall, but not as lusted after as a BMW.
When I was 21 I had a 405sri. It was quite the leftfield choice.
Everyone was saying get the Mi16 but it was 7 insurance groups higher, which was well out of my range.
The 405 was found to be a really nicely balanced car, plenty of torque and cornered well as well.
The perfect daily.
Here in America we got a completely different accord during this timeframe and this car was an Acura TSX in our market. It's funny how that works.
Manufactures make versions and exclusive models for the American market to appeal to Americans even though we got bought the North American spec Honda Accord and Acura TSX. I actually like both.
I currently drive a 2011 Accord type s automatic diesel , which has been a great car have it nearly 3 years, only issue i had was the rear brake calliper sticking as you mentioned. Enjoy the channel. Have a bmw e38 728m sport lying in the she as well so enjoyed the review you did on them
Love the balance on this channel James, keep it up and really hope to see "unique" normal cars from across the pond like the Citreon from last week. I know the car was rare but I think I speak for many of us in the States...we love those types of videos!
Btw...when you coming back to run the Tail of the Dragon? I'm sure you heard about the other roads like Moonshiners and Cherahola Skyway👍👍
I'm so bloody tempted. Always liked Accords.
i litteraly just bought an accord 2.2 exec spec for 550 quid 130k miles honda history (missing last 20k) soooo good
I've owned one of these, good points were it was very reliable, always started and the refinement was excellent, especially on the motorway. I sold it as I didn't find it an engaging enough drive, which I know doesn't matter to a lot of people who just want a reliable daily. Also I could feel the clutch starting to wear which is a common problem on these. It also felt too cumbersome and 'floaty' compared to the MK7. A great all-rounder that won't let you down though
Umm’d and arr’d about these for a while. After this I went and bought one! Bloody lovely thing, hugely prefer it over my Mazda 6. The engine is a gem, very eager without DPF and a good map. Cruises just beautiful.
Damn near bought an estate one about 6 years ago (went Mondeo titanium X sport estate instead)
Loved the big chunky switchgear and comfy front seats.
Loved our Accord diesel tourer. It was abused up and down the motorway and on A roads, I loved taking it on holiday to France with it filled to the rafters with kids and camping gear. I never had any issues with reliability, the only time it let me down was when I accidentally drained the battery in France and had to get a jump from roadside assistance.
Nice review man
Can you make a video on the previous gen accord type R please....loving your work
Watched this , bought one, couldn’t be happier
A soft spot for well built and reliable Honda’s with affordable performance 👍
I have the 2.4 Vtec petrol version branded as the Honda Accord euro here in Australia. Great car
Honda did produce a Type S 180PS DTEC for the UK market. Not many were sold, so makes it quite rare.
I'm looking at these in estates atm. Lovely cars
Had the same engine in a Civic. Nice drive and very good efficiency.
I like the fact that the cars got loads of arch gap and is a mile off of the floor.. yet the suspension is a spine tingler :D oh yes we’ve all been there!
Not a bullet proof??? 😂😂😂 Mate, for a 13 years old car it is times more reliable than even new cars! Things you mention about unreliability make no sense at all. That’s the type of car to go trouble free miles for years and years ;)
it is not reliable for honda standards.
Too much vibration from this engine. N16 was so bad that toyota's 1nd-tv engine fared better even though it was also not upto mark for toyota diesel standard. Both of them were developed for 3rd world market. Mainly for south east asia.
I really like these accords. Some time ago I was eying one of these but I couldn’t find a low mileage one. I wanted a low mileage because I didn’t want to be hit with a DPF bill straight after buying it. Petrol accords have a very expensive road tax. At the end, I didn’t buy any, but I still like the way they look.
I was literally lookin at the 2.4 vtec version a few hours ago
Do it.
Did it have these wheels?
Those are from the civic fn2 type r
I miss the Accord, Honda if you're watching this video bring it back to the UK!!
Hang on... you guys don't have the Accord? You should check out the Accord we get over here in the states. It's a true beaut. Shame you guys don't get one!
@@aviatorsdream4686 No sir! I believe they stopped production of it a few years ago (I'm sure someone on here will be able to tell you exactly when). Oh I'd love to man, what a car.
2014 I believe. I had the 2011 Type S. Sold JUST prior to Covid due to clutch last year. 100K(96,445) on stock parts... quality of product that is such a rarity these days..! Beware the DPF... you've been warned!!
How funny you feature an accord given our recent communications!
I have a 2011 honda accord 2011 well equipped and i love it❤️
Love these in wagon form.
Good call......
Had one. Oddly the boot is smaller in length than the saloon.
Trust me, I measured.
And less bootspace than a civic (not the new ugly one)
But do I miss it? Apart from low rev lethargy, price of parts and a few other things... Absolutely....
I understand that the diesels are absolute belters though!
@@drd6416 genuinely adore it.
@@drd6416 I think it's because the wagon has this rounded rear end. Sort of fastback styling which is cool but then robs boot space. It's a trade off of style for space.
Excellent.
I was eyeballing one of these thoroughly before I went with my last E60 520d. A nice car for what it is. Overlooked slightly! And I kinda wish I bought it as the 520d is sitting on the drive with a snapped timing chain 🤔
BMW only 6cylinders motors upwards are worth buying..
Reliability and low running costs have tended to be the the draw cards for Honda and Toyota.
However I'd have thought the Honda Legend would be closer to a 5 series. 🤔
@@projecthowto Cheers I'll bare that in mind 👍
@@thomas316 Yeah it was the reliability that attracted me to the Honda. Dont see many legends around mind, plenty of Acccords at decent prices tho 👍
Would love to see you review a Honda Legend
I had a 3 litre V6 Coupe version. Went like a rocket and absolutely bullet-proof!
Full service every 10k and oil and filters every 5k and it never missed a beat. Always used fully synthetic oils too.
I've got one as a daily , 2.2 estate lovely car to drive, and at pace it ok as a daily Haha, estate is huge
My Dad has the previous (I think nicer looking) generation Accord 2 litre VTEC. Bought new in 2003 it still runs like a Seiko clock. Build quality more than a match for any equivalent German product and with reliability that is superior. The K series VTEC units are the ones to have though IMO. Great cars.
In the United States, and in Canada, we got the “North American” version of the Honda Accord, and we got this car badged as the Acura TSX, the Acura TSX did come in sedan and station wagon versions, I have only seen one to two TSX wagons in my life, they are very rare here.
Acura is my favorite brand. My only regret purchasing a 2015 TLX is that now I'm jealous of the 2021 TLX Type-S.
can you do the gen before with the k24 at some point
Excellent car, although as far as forgotten goes, I think that honour belongs to the slightly bigger Honda Legend. A truly lovely thing, with many Japanese type luxury touches.
Funny story, the Legend would've been what I'd have bought but when I bought this I was doing 130 miles a day.
It now has front 4 pot callipers from the Legend on 350z discs though.
@@MattBeardless You still have a really nice car Matt. My partner is on the hunt for an FN4 Type S, as her first foray into sporty hatchbacks so I've got a lot of respect for the badge and the history behind it.
@@paul1978g appreciate that, my mum's actually got an FK3 Civic, the four door diesel FN2 era...quite a fun car to drive once you get over how odd the interior design is.
Quite an attractive car, especially in that lovely Indigo blue pearl they offered
I didn't know the cdti was considered problematic, my 09 CRV is still going strong at 130k miles, touch wood!
Recently got another, 2018 dtec 160ps, hope it gives me as many happy years
I like this Euro version of the Accord better than the US variant. It looks more refined and sportier.
I'm not young, but I have one of these, it's my second one. I love it, and I'm really disappointed that honda aren't bringing them into the UK anymore 🙄
J, Can you do a review on the newish Insignia such an improvement over the previous model
I have 2013 Acura TSX 2.4 k24 with a k&n short ram intake and custom exhaust with a Ktuner tune. It does burnouts
Im 24 and want my first salon had a few hatchback over the years. Think I'm going with an accord.
Get your hands on a Cl7 Euro R accord Jay👍👍
Here in the USA, my 2012 TSX Wagon is a good alternative to an SUV or Crossover. Excellent double wishbone suspension, fine build quality, paddle shifters are great....and, it's a unicorn (very rare on the roads here).
I had an 06 plate black Accord Sport. It was the diesel and was a very good car. Driven carefully I once got close to 1000 miles to a tank of fuel.
Very comfortable but not as quick as some other diesels.
Get a stage 1 remap....
@@anthonyrobinson2694 it was 2006, I had the car for around a year, company car... Not worth it. I have remapped other cars I've kept longer though
Review the Honda legend! 😃
Currently looking for one of these but with the 2.4 (k24) engine paired with the 6MT. It's a bit of a rare configuration though
I've been looking at the Honda Accord for some time, reaching 'Honda man' average age and wanting a reliable car with some performance, being on a limited budget. The only thing that puts me off is the pedestrian acceleration, apart from the Type-S, and on that basis I prefer the Lexus IS. Prices have now reached reasonable levels, for a 10-12 year old car, but I still see average prices around the £5K mark.
I've been looking into getting my second car this year and as a 19 year old in a high insurance area these are the sort of cars I'm looking at. Cars like this, Lexus IS and mondeos are roughly half the cost to insure than any hot hatch or BMW or Mercedes.
what do you drive at the moment? i drive a 1.2 polo but am looking to upgrade to a 1.6 ep2 civic
@@AriesUmbra At the moment I'm driving a 2003 1.4 Fiesta. Bought the car for £500 in September 2019 but our mechanic reckons the head gasket needs replacing so its not worth fixing. I only have 1 year no claims at the moment but I find that these bigger saloons are cheaper to insure than equivalent hatches and have more kit aswell.
@@AriesUmbra I'd reccomend taking a look at Mk3 Mondeo Ghia X's on autotrader. You can get a good one for less than £2k and they come loaded with kit (how much of it will still work is another thing entirely)
I came from a B18 Swapped Civic to this, wasn't bored.
Funny how I ended up with a 2013 k24z3 a year after liking this video
I've not had great luck with front wheel drive cars. I had the Acura TL type S and it has a wicked torque steer problem. It went down the highway and around sweepers very well but in tighter corners, it pushed badly. They changed this to all wheel drive on the next generation but I went back to BMWs and bought an M3 E92. My daily has changed to 2019 BMW 330xi with sport package, very nice. Not sure what to get next year when lease is off as the new 3 series has the hideous grill.
i had a Accord CU3 Petrol 2.4 as new and it was a good car
i have a 7th gen accord sedan, with blue metallic paint and half "leather" seats, I have to say that I like the interior and the color of the car. It's just unfortunate that rust is starting to get a hold of it. But it's been good enough as my first car
the v6 variants are a good time
I had an 8th gen Accord Tourer 2.0 petrol. The diesel can get very expensive to fix. Clutch, flywheel and DPF can go. I had a rear caliper seize also. £400 new, but managed to get a refurbished one for £200.
Dmf and clutch was a £1400 job.
I'd go for a Legend from the same time; nice 3.5 V6 with handling grace from the SH-AWD system. Rare sights on the road but I keep checking the used market for a nice one.
Saying this as the owner, I would've instead but the tax is obscene and I was doing 131 miles a day at the time.
Do a euro R accord 👀👌
A decent dad car for those who need an all rounder, budget friendly, economical, practical, run of the mill, mile munching, average performing car. Personally, if I was spending 3k, I would go for the civic type r gt. I paid 7k for my e93 m sport convertible a few years ago and that does the job just fine too. I could buy something more expensive but don’t see the point as nowadays the uk roads are poor, speed traps everywhere and if you manage to avoid all those, there is always someone who feels the need to put a nice scratch on your pride and joy because that’s what the uk has become!
Hah! One of the cars I looked at a few years back. The i-Dtec type S estate is a bloody rare car which at the time held its value like crazy. In the end I went for a Mazda 6 2.2d sport. Like Honda, Mazda too make/made an extremely capable derv-burner
This is a far superior engine to the Mazda 2.2.
It's a real shame they stopped selling accords here, the generation after looked awesome imo.
Yeah our insurance is weird. I was better off running a 1.8 rover 75 than a 1.0 smart forfour
Hondas can be proper pricey for insurance. I've always had USDM models here in the UK and they are so expensive to insure because the parts are just insanely priced. Someone crashed into the rear quarter of my EJ coupe and the insurer wanted to write it off because Honda would only supply the rear bumper already painted from Ohio. I managed to save it from being written off by agreeing to accept that rather than having it colour matched
Getting a 2009 version of one of these
Is this gonna become a full series
These as the Acura TSX are everywhere in the US and very popular used cars as well.
Same as all Accords. It baffles me how underrated Accords are in Europe, considering how big success they always were in US. But, it has some pros too - there is much lesser chance of spotting same car on the road. They are rare enough to stand out in a crowd. And good looking too ;)
@@PlayTrickBLOGSPOT its really because BMW has a better brand image than Honda in Europe at that price range. More badge lookers than actual need for a car but that's reality. It's the same with Mitsubishi too, except for the Evos and Monteros, everything else they have are regarded as "crap" but they really aren't that bad, not bad at all. But again that's brand image.... 🤷
@@aaryeshg.6526 I know, right? I often heard an argument that Hondas are too expensive, but when I actually compared dealership prices myself - audi and bmws were significantly more expensive, because to get all the stuff EX Honda comes with as standard, in bmw and vag you have to tick off optional extras. And suddenly cheaper base becomes 3k more expensive than similarly equipped accord.
@@aaryeshg.6526 Don't forget the 10% tariff on cars imported from Japan! That makes imported Accords like these, Subarus and Mazdas all price uncompetitive in the UK. Honda could price the Civic and CR-V more realistically as they were made locally in the UK.
Toyota & Lexus, Honda & Acura and Nissan & Infiniti are all a lot more popular in the US than they are in the UK! :)
Need to review the 2.4 k24(rsx type-s motor) I put 100k+ miles with the auto trans always keeping it in the vtec range
Put the fogs on! Also I always wanted to buy one of these Acura TSXs here in the states. We never got the Diesel 😩
I would've but at the time I had one blown
I have had 2 Honda accords. One was the Type R. I do miss it
type r?
Yes. Jay has done a review on them before. Check his vlogs
I've driven an ATR, honestly if it wasn't for the mpg and rust issues the CH1 has I'd probably have sold this one for a CH1.
for anyone who may be reading this now, is the diesel motor as reliable as the benzin motors? I love hondas reliability but the I don't have much experience with diesel cars
I have 2.4 wagon in South Africa.. Love the car 4years of ownership.. I left bmw for it
As a Honda petrol head with a Type R I have always admired the Accord and had a fondness for it especially the old sport versions. Who was such a shame when it was killed off. Most JDM cars for some reason the Americans get the better versions? Anyone else note that Jay said 2020 this must have been recorded or a while ago or we've gone back in time🤣👍
I really miss the Honda Accord
Had the 2.4 S lovely car
Well, while the BMW would be busy chewing up its timing chain, diff, blowing its head gasket etc, etc..., I guess the Accord would just keep rollin' along.
Great car choice. I'm 26 and have an accord 2.4 ex manual. Not every young person wants a golf R or s3 or a35
Many dont even want cars at all
Many don't know what a car is
It’s the UK finale generation Legend V6 where it is at. Bar the co2 and tax.
If you want to try something different, try to source a Suzuki Kizashi. Despite the CVT gearbox and poor economy, it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on them. As for the Accord, I've always liked this model, though I'd probably opt for a more stock example.
Is that the slightly bonkers awd v6 saloon that almost looks like a Citroën but is mega rare?
@@drd6416 it is!
@@drd6416 2.4l 4-pot, sadly.
I am looking for an MK7 model, preferably the diesel i-CDTi as i have read that it is much gentler for town driving. For that kind of age of used cars i don't think you can find anything better than this.
Where is the cigarette lighter located for charging your phone. Also does it have a headphone jack?
I like those Acura touches, always made me wonder how bad the USA Accord must be if this is their premium model to rival 3 series and IS.
The USA Accord is much bigger with more hard plastic, no trim around the window frames etc. While JayEmm didn't seem to like the quality, I compared the Accord (Euro) and Legend (RL) side by side, and there wasn't that much difference in how they were trimmed (obviously the Legend has blinds in the rear etc). :)
@@TassieLorenzo Thanks! I watched your VW Passat video :)
I had a new one in 2010, base model it was much cheaper than a 3 series from what I remember . Lease deal was very good.I enjoyed this car but I got laughed at as it wasdeemed an old persons car. The seats were comfortable and it functioned without any fuss. Moved up to a 5 Series and not looked back.
Honda don’t make a fun diesel. But the Honda is just lovely. Lovely. Even now shape lovely. So good seen taxi drivers with 2.4 Petrol autos for reliability
No one makes a fun diesel, they just aren't fun engines. Not saying they can't be good or even fantastic, MK1 Fabia vRS was just awesome, but not fun. A Honda with a diesel just goes against everything I think of and desire in a Honda, their petrol engines are the absolute polar opposite to a diesel
@@psions555 I’m going to get you to disagree your statement. Mk4 golf TDi 150 as the classic 1.9 really kicked. Many preferred the TDi over the gti in its day. That reversed by the mk7 where GTD was lane versus GTi. Just a thought. I’m 44. Old ish.
@@psions555 yes spot on the Fabia VRs was totally the same. Same drive train transmission just lighter. This was almost fun though rough aurally.
@@psions555 I’ve always hated the Honda and Nissan diesels. In the motor trade they sound like nothing else. They almost hiss. It really is a wierd engine. And the petrol 1.8 civic returns 50 mpg anyway. Old boys love the 2.4i Auto Hondas. I drove back an IS200 auto today. The mk2 diesel 2.2 they used from Avensis woeful and mega unreliable. As a car trader we typically hate diesels and their problems.
It's funny how modifying culture is different across markets. Here in the US you find people putting Honda badges on their Acuras, so the exact opposite of this car. Modifiers should find penpals in other countries so they can just trade parts and make everyone happy.
Legitimately we do. My front grille went to a good friend of mine in MA. - I'm the owner of this CU3 'TSX'.
@@MattBeardless Oh that's excellent, I'm glad to hear that. My favorite version of this is when European owners want the look of US-spec sealed beam headlights on cars like the Saab 96 and Jaguar XJS, despite their inferior lighting properties, while the US enthusiasts want the Euro-spec lights. Grass is always greener and all that.
Did europe get this with the 3.5 6? They're rippers here in the us with that motor as the tsx
No, biggest was 2.4 4 cyl NA
I'm 26 now and I have own one of these for the last 2 and a half years. The only problem I had was the DPF and rear brakes which the dealer said they changed (they did not...) Everything else works just fine, its not a car to drive fast and all "young-like" but you can still enjoy it if you want something that car go over 200km/h with ease, yes it does take a little bit of time (its not a typeR) but you can have some fun. Mine doesn't have leather, xenons, full electric seats or navi, but its still good. You can modify it to be a little bit stronger but its not a car to go crazy in, its a "luxury" one, thats why its great for a daily, not for someone who wants to go wild on some country roads. Highway works just fine tho. But if you want to drive fast then upgrade the suspension properly and have fun.
If you don’t mind asking, how much does it cost a DPF for these accords?
@@ruinunes8251 its ussualy arroun 750€ + labour, so it can get up to 1200-1400€, and for some its not a permanent solution, if its being driven on short trips then it can clog up again. Usually its okay for 20 000km with the new one.
@@nurrar4485
That is the reason why I didn’t buy a diesel one. Very expensive to replace a DPF and the sort of usage we give to our car, it would clog up in no time.
@@ruinunes8251 exactly, i managed to go arround that coz not all countries are the same.
Comparing Honda to a Vaxuhall is an insult, also this car was far nicer inside and better built than so called German premium brands. This generation didn't sell aswell as the previous generations not for the reasons that the public saw it as an expensive Vauxhall rival, the previous generation Accords were also expensive but sold extremely well.
Americanised it with Acura badging and grille is what I'd do too 👍🏻