I Tested 25 Different 3D Printers. This One Wins.
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- I've put 25 different 3D Printers to the test and somehow this one is my most reliable and one of the best priced as well! #3dprinting #3dprinter #christmasgifts
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I have the LK1 - that thing is a beast. It never fails, it just prints. Every. Single. Time. I've been super thrilled with it, I've had it about a year. Good video.
I got this printer after watching the review video you posted a while back. This was my first personal printer, I have few at work that cost much more but this one is my favorite. As a starter or for people like me that like to print huge items this is the one to go with. Thanks for the initial advice, you did not steer me wrong on this one. Keep up the great work and I hope you find someone to continue giving great advice and reviews
So glad to hear it, Ramon! Yeah, it's been a great workhorse for me. I'm printing a new shiny Mando helmet on it right now, actually. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Thanks to The 3D Printing Zone for recommending LK5 PRO spontaneously. Sent this LK5 PRO a year and a half ago. It's great to see you still like it!
See Rui Machado's comment below. YOU have a lot of issues with this printer, and it doesn't seem like you are particularly willing to fix most of them, even after a year and a half...
The first printer I bought back in 2020 was a longer LK4, which too, was a great deal for its size and print volume. I had great experiences with it and have since replaced it with the LK1 which has the same print volume as the LK5. Planning on keeping this brand on my equipment list for some time to come. And if LONGER is watching, looking forward to an SLA offering larger than the Orange 10 and 30. Thanks for the video 👍👍
Glad to hear you've had good experiences with the brand as well. I'm looking forward to seeing what else they come out with - maybe SLA is on their roadmap. Not sure. As I mentioned in the video, their new printer that I'm trying is an absolute champ so far. Really liking this brand.
Thanks for your suggestion!
Hi there, I was wondering if you could help me figure out how to fix an error with my printer. I’ve been getting an “Abnormal Head temperature” message repeatedly for the past few days. What can I do to remedy that so it doesn’t interrupt my prints every so often? Thanks 🙏
Thanks Nils! Glad to know that even still this is your recommendation. I do wish it had dual lead screws.
Agreed - there are a few things that would be nice upgrades, like the dual lead screws and a direct drive extruder. That said, it has performed so well for me despite not having those.
I bought a used Longer LK5 Pro for $250 that had only been used to print one model. For the most part I'm pretty happy with it however one serious bit of advice for anyone considering buying one themselves, make sure you get the upgraded one with the dual fan equipped hotend (2 parts cooling fans and one hotend cooling fan), the standard 'base' only has one parts cooling fan and a fairly small hotend cooling fan. This results in some errors in many prints opposite the side the parts cooling fan is on, almost like the plastic is being blowen away from the fan as it hardens. Also might want to invest in the dual Z axis kit that Longer offers.
Thanks for the unbiased, honest review.
Quite honestly... Even with it's dated tech... Prusa is still the best out of the box printer. I print.. pla... Petg... Tpu... Abs.... Carbon fiber filaments... It will do it all.
Build volume isn't large, but it isn't small. Prusa still is the go to printer that flat works and doesn't limit you on filament choices
You know what the fact that you've never thought to yourself this printers so darn good ima buy a second one or a third one says it all to me. You use what your given to review all 25 of them and this is the best free one so far?
I've had the Longer LK5 pro for over a year now and as a novice its been pretty good. Your positivity for the unit reassures me that the issues I keep having are on my end and not the printer. I have exclusively printed in PLA and most filaments work good but for some reason some just won't stick, even if its the same brand but a different color. Also I could never get a print to stick without a raft until I added BuildTak to the baseplate. I assume its issues with my Cura settings but I've tried quite a few different settings and still have issues
Maybe you could try raising the heat bed temperature a bit
No, it's the printer...
Probably the printer. I had no issues to start but then the metal heat bed warped and now it is impossible to level. All four corners are too high and the center is still touching the nozzle. Longer support is the most abysmal I have ever dealt with.
First of all, if they give you printers you are technically sponsored. The fact that you can't name a single negative point or limitation mean you have a big bias because of this sponsoring. If you only print with PLA it might be a good choice. But what about PETG, TPU, ABS? Max nozzle temp of 250C and max bed temp of 75C really limit you and should be mentioned.
Totally agree!! This printer is great because it was free and for printing pla. Other than that it is just another printer directly from China with a ton of clone parts and a flashy screen!!
The LK 5 Pro prints all those filaments without any issue. Of course you have to be smart and use the proper nozzle for the different filaments. I have a print that has been going for 87.5 hours with no issues. I bought mine and I will buy only Longer going forward.
@@jasenking4092 Seriously ? Have you tested all of those filaments ? PETG should be fine, but TPU without direct drive is always problematic and ABS just needs higher temperatures (and an enclosure). Doesn't mean this is a bad printer, a lot of bedslingers don't support these filaments (although their product page says they do).
A crazy limitation for cooling is the absurd choice for an axial fan as the part cooling fan.
Using a radial fan for this is a standard for a reason, a radial fan just generates MUCH more airflow.
An axial fan is just the wrong part for the job...
And he conveniently just recieved another FREE printer from them the day before this video. Total shill.
Reminds me of my Artillery X1 but with a volcano head. I even added carbon fiber rods to triangulate additional support.
Hi! Nice review of the printer. I have one Longer LK5 Pro, and I must say it has some limitations. I know it's also a 300 dollars/euros machine, so accepted them as being part of a budget machine. Issues: Extruder is single gear and not all metal one. Single lead screw. Poor cooling out of the box, but Longer sell a replacement (maybe its included in the printer these days). Noisy, the fans are loud and they don't turn off when printer is idle. Firmware, is old and slow do be released. No automated bed leveling tool, that for a big bed like this one is essential. Hotend limited to 250c. Almost zero support (at least this was my experience). I made a lot of modifications and fixed the issues above, and its ok, I use it for big projects due to the big print bed a Z height. But for a first printer I wouldn't recommend it, since you must have already some skill to identify issues and then fix them.
I appreciate your input on this since that was pretty different from my experience. I assume there are some variations on everyone's experience with it but it's helpful to hear someone who it wasn't all roses for. Thanks again!
Damn. These specs/limitations and for 300eur. I'd maybe get a Ender 3 S1 pro which I just saw on sale for 390eur.
This is a great and honest feedback. Well said.
@@rehepeks You should compare with a CR-10 then, that has a similar print volume. The price difference between this two printers is considerable.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the support. We will work hard to improve.
I'm new to the whole 3d printing thing, but it is possible to make a coloured action figure by 3d printing? It's one of the things I wanted to do if I can ever get a chance to buy one and I don't know if it's possible.
is it possible for you to do a video about making (or how to make, or which 3d printer is the best fit to make) a properly coloured action figure?
Hi buddy, this is the one of best informative videos I can find about this printer…. As I am planning to buy this printer want to know some more details about this printer….1. Power cut off resume 2. About the software 3. Filament run out and changing will cause any problems in current model 4. What type of materials I can print … for eg can I print abs or wood filament… or tpu anything like that …. And last one 5. What is maximum capacity of this printer like till what extent it can go and what cannot be done in this.
I have seen the first video about this printer in your channel… I thinks this are not completely covered
Please let me know about this even if do the video that will be better
I have a old Wanhao Duplicator V1 from 2015. And have been looking to upgrade to something with a silent board. After watching way way way to many reviews it seems i am down to something from longer, sovol or artillery.
What extruder does it use? I can't find any close-ups on the product page but my guess is it's a Creality-style plastic single-gear extruder. If so, seems like a potential weak point.
Wish they made a 50x50x50 printer like the Creality CR10 S5. I need the build volume. Might just try to build a Core XY even though I’m much more interested in large and small quality prints than insane speed.
After printing with this style glass bed(had 3 printers with it) I can safely say a double sided PEI with textured on one side and smooth PEI on other is far superior to this glass setup. Easy to pop off after a print but never have edges of a print even consider lifting no matter if it's PLA, PETG or ABS. For PA CF I suggest glass with glue stick. I use the smooth back side of the carborundom glass as it's easy to clean glue off between PA CF prints.
Should probably mention I use the smooth PEI for my PLA/PETG and textured PEI for ABS.
I agree. The PEI steel spring plate with textured/smooth sides is the best all around plate, and easiest to use. What do you use to clean yours?
I bought this printer based on your recommendation and could not be more disappointed. The metal heat bed is severely warped making it impossible to level or print on, and longer support is non existent.
Even if you dont open the package and want to return the product they will not give a full refund. If you open it and find out it doesnt work, they will take a larger portion. If something goes wrong ane you want to warranty a specific part like a warped heatbed, they will ghost you. Now I'm forced to go through the Consumer Protection Bureau to hopefully get any kind of resolution.
Thanks bro.
...This video is a year old.
Edit: His original video on the Longer LK5 Pro is 2 years old, ignore this comment.
@@BurntMemoriesAlt what does the age of the video have to do with anything. He recommended it a year ago, I watched it recently and bought the printer, and it's crazy how bad it is. The belts on the gantry aren't even parallel so the print head is never where the printer thinks it is. The bed warped after 3 prints, and the customer service is atrocious
Can the Longer K5 or any of the Longer brand printers be upgraded to direct drive extruders and flexible mag plate beds? I have never owned a Boden tube fed printer, nor will I ever unless they can be easily and inexpensively upgraded.
Looking to get my first 3d printer.... so this is great.
What I have not seen is an analysis of cost to print information.
How do you evaluate cost to print?
Your slicer program such as Cura or Prusa Slicer have options to show you the price of the material your about to print if you enter in the cost of the roll of filament(generally assumes 1kg roll). I think Cura defaults PLA as $29.99 a roll.
You are doing so much good to the 3D printing space man! We need more guys like you!
I would love to see a comparison between this machine and the Sovol SV01 Pro which is of a similar price with the Sovol being $41 less expensive.
I'll have to see if I can get my hands on one of these. So many printers out there it's hard to keep up!
@@The3DPrintingZone Any Sovol printer would be good, the build quality is epic, they take the Creality models and fix the faults and upgrade them and all for less than the Creality models price, buying one of their machines is a no brainer, you get so much for so little money!
Owned 10 printers in 18 months and the Longer LK4 Pro was the best one! Really reliable and love the touchscreen UI design!
My goto printer is the Mingda Magician X. I get consistently great prints off it, and their customer service is beyond reproach (unlike other big-name & "top of the line" companies). I must confess that I also have a snapmaker, but I've yet to use the 3d printer module for it...only the router & laser.
I've owned all of the Snapmakers but they're so good at other things that I don't really use them for 3D printing either. I'm supposed to be getting their new one that is just a 3D printer and should be super fast and I'm actually super excited to try it out. They've done some really cool stuff to make it work quickly. We'll see!
Do you know what brand of an all metal hot end would work on the magician X
@@matthew0387 well, I think maybe something like a volcano would fit but I'm not 100% on that.
Been printing since 2014 and that thing that pisses me off is, they always break after around 30 prints, conveniently after the 30 days has passed to return
You discussed several times you can cut 3d prints into pieces to have bigger prints.
Could you do a video about that, as I am struggling to find the best way. and there is not much help online either.
Sounds great, but wouldn't auto bed levelling be ideal for a 1st time printer?
Interesting. Very few yt 3d printing content providers actually recommend any Longer printer it seems. There's always something better or cheaper that works right out of the box they would suggest instead.
Hello. I’m might want to upgrade my 3d printer and there’s so many options and I would like to know what you would recommend. I would like a fdm printer over a resin one. So far I kinda like the Flashforge Adventurer 4 and Ender 3 s1 pro. Are those good one, or any others that would be better? My current printer is an Ender 3 v2, so I have some experience Thank you
Love my longer lk5!
*This is a good printer, but I decided to spend a little bit more money and get a 3D printer with auto leveling and run out detection.
The Artillery Sidewinder is made in the USA and prints a lot faster.*
What's the accuracy on this one?
Nice! $299. I love the Ender 6, same bed, nearly identical build volume
did you listen to your video ???
did you remark that you talk about the triangular architecture
< that is the brace that go from the front of the base to the top >
so it add stability in the front to back movement
but you said that because of it it is rock solid in the side to side axis
What to say ???
Thank you
I really like your vids, and you have been one of the YT'ers instramental in helping me get started in this hobby. However, I have to disagree with you here, AND to be honest, I almost bought this very Longer printer based on your vid. However, this printer is missing SEVERAL of the things I had on my list for "must haves" in buying my 3d printer.
First, It does not have an all metal sprite, direct drive or dual gear extruder, which was a deal breaker. And while we are talking about the extruder, the limited temps of the nozzle and bed were also a big deal to me, because it limits many of the different filaments you can work with. Second, it only has one z axis screw/motor, which makes it much harder to get a level z axis and screws up your layering. Then it does not have the titanium heat break or hard steel extruder, so wear and tear becomes a problem down the road. It also doesn't have auto bed leveling either, and that was a must. I knew I wanted to have a printer with manual as well as auto bed leveling, so that was a big deal breaker. Even though they say it is BL Touch ready, I didn't want to have to install something like that, being too new to the 3d printing world. So I ended up going with the Creality CR-10 Smart PRO. I would not have purchased the regular Smart, because it had many problems, and didn't have manual bed leveling. But the Smart PRO fixed all of those problems, and has every feature I was looking for. And I found a Black Friday deal of $570 dollars, so it was a no brainer. You should be very careful with vids like this, as it could hurt your credibility that you've spent so much time building up.
As a newbie that wants to start in 3D printing, would this be a good choice? What software can I use to make the models? Thank you!!
for making models, I recommend Blender since it's free and very versatile.
if you're only going to make mechanical stuff you could try to learn proper CAD programs like fusion 360. But they're usually pricy, and can't be used for organic stuff like figurines.
if by 'make 3d models' you mean turning downloaded models into print files, that's called 'slicing' and you should use either PrusaSlicer or Cura.
Thank you for your reply
I am a mechanical designer and have used pro-e and autocad but wanted to see if there were specific software for 3D printing. I would like to model and make my own parts that would otherwise need molds etc which are quite costly. Thx!
Favmir has some great advice here. Keep in mind that you can download the free, non-commercial version of Fusion 360 as long as you don't use to to make over a certain amount of money. Last I checked that was $1000, I believe, but you can check their terms and likely use it for free. Like they mentioned, Blender is a great way to go too.
Things I would not live without for 3D printing.
Direct drive
.6 Nozzle
Klipper
Octoprint
PSU Control plugin for Octoprint/Klipper
Fusion 360
Overture PETG
Raspberry PI 4B
C270 Webcam
I've done other mods like the titanium heat break and full copper hotend , but the mods above make printing easy and trouble free.
I would like to buy the k1 3d printer and I would like to know how to use it can you make a video of it?
I appreciate your candor
Hey there, Do you remember me from the live steam sometime back for the Tronxy X5SA?
I had that printer but had and still do have problems with the leveling even though I got the Tronxy new black multi-detection Sensor which does detect anything on the bed surface.
I wish to know have you ever got any of the files for the upgrades for the Tronxy I gave you done yet? ( I be dismantling the Tronxy X5SA and using it for spares )
I given up on trying to make the Tronxy X5SA work right now. I will instead maybe replace it with a bigger FDM printer I seen which has bigger bad and height printing and has the auto mesh bed system the Tronxy don't. the printer I maybe getting as a replacement is called
ANYCUBIC FDM 3D Printer Chiron Build Volume: 400x400x450mm
Price:£259.00
Here in the UK on Ebay brand new with 3 spools of PLA free as well.
Hey Colin, of course I remember you! Always good to hear from you, my friend. Sadly I never got around to doing anything else with the Tronxy so that one remains on my to-do list. Sorry to hear it didn’t work out for you though.
Also, that’s interesting about your Longer bed. As mentioned I’ve never had issues like that with it but who knows - everyone’s experiences differ. That Anycubic does look like a bargain for sure - you’ll have to let me know if you end up going that way.
What about one for printing miniatures?
I thought, wouldn’t be something that he said the longer. Lol my first one was the LK 1 got it for my birthday last year and it’s been great. I wish I had taken better care of the bed. It was until well after that I read, (just keep it clean!!)I had already gunked up so bad lol. My “run out” sensor just stopped working..but other than that..this thing has been great!!
Thanks for your site! Great info!!
Anybody got a good prusa slicer profile??😜
How this compares with Creality CR10 Max?
What I want to know is if money is not an issue is it work buying a $5,000 printer like ultimaker for ease of use and no fiddling requirements.
Having just had 80 plus attempts to get a first layer printed on an Ender 6 filament printer, I will not touch this thing.
I see the all too familiar bed leveling knobs, not doing that ever again...
Resin printing works! level the plate once print anything...
im looking into buying a 3d printer. Im will probably buy the ender 3 tho just because of the big community around it and availability for extra parts
Enders are pretty reliable and, like you said, the community is huge. Consider getting a lightly used one. I'm seeing them go for super cheap and they're often almost new. Either way, best of luck!
The brand name would be a mild source of amusement, considering how many hours it takes to do some prints.
Haha! Yeah, the name is kind of funny in that sense. I hadn't thought of it that way :)
Looking at myself buying the Ender something Pro, which is $500. After that, looking at myself buying the Prusia Mk3, which is $1000. What would my 3rd 3-D printer be after those two because I am going to sell 3-D print toys and stuff on Etsy, and the prices will be determined by how long it takes to print, the type of filament, and how eye catching it is.
You want three seperate printers? Why? I have both the prusa and the ender 3, the prusa is within my professional sphere at my job and my Ender 3 is at home for personal use. The prusa is certainly a better printer, but the ender 3 is a lot cheaper, and has more support
@@entropicemerald807 Well yeah, the productions of my 3-D print toys being sold on Etsy will expand faster.
One is in the mail because of this channel
it needs direct drive extruder, linear rails, and maybe a stronger cooling fan, otherwise it's a good printer.
Thanks for your suggestion.
Hi there. What do you think about Delta printers?🤔
I haven't had the chance to actually use one so I can't say but from what I've seen they can be a great way to get big prints in a reasonable amount of desktop area.
@@The3DPrintingZone Delta can be twice as fast with the same results. Big time savings with less problems.👍😎
Why no Prusa ?
Do you have a Prusa?
I don't, but I have one on order. I hear wonderful things about them but they're pretty pricey for someone starting out. From what I understand, they're worth it. I have the XL on preorder.
The goass bed on my ender 3 max nothing sticks to it. On my fokoos the bed sdhesion is just insane i print at 35c now on it
I wish i would have seen this video before i got my first 3D printer, I would have bought the LK4. I t is a little more than I spent but no head ahce would have been worth it. I've had mine for 4 days and I can't get my first layer to stick no matter what I do. :(
I know you said that this isn’t a sponsored video and that they don’t even know that you’re making this video but you also said at the beginning that nobody gave you anything for this video but I feel like that’s slightly misleading. Though they didn’t give you the printer for this specific video and they may not know that you’re making this specific video, the fact of the matter is later in the video you admitted they gave you the printer for a previous video so they did give you the printer. That may have no bearing on your praise of the printer and it very well may be the printer that you recommend to people honestly but at the end of the day you’re showing off a printer that you didn’t pay for while at the same time saying it’s not a sponsored video they don’t know about this video almost insinuating like it’s so good you went out with your own money and bought it, but didn’t.
At the end of the day, I don’t really care, I just felt like I should at least point it out. The fact of the matter is, I never heard of this brand to have even ever considered this printer and when I’m in the market for a new printer in the near future, I’ll probably give it a serious look thanks to your video, but I would be careful saying “not sponsored, I didn’t receive anything for this video” when showing off a free printer
I really prefer the prusa mk3
How can I get to you???
I’m expecting to get my first 3d printer in a couple of days I bought it my self and being only 12 I am starting young as I have an interest in 3d printers. Ps I’m getting a creality 3.
Thanks.
I watched reviews on printers for days before finally choosing what would be my first printer. I'm new to the trade, and that being said, the more videos I watched and part comparisons I reviewed it seemed to be this LK5 Pro was basically a generic copy of the Enders. I bought the LK5 Pro based on your previous review with the thinking that it would be best to learn on a cheaper printer as there would likely be growing pains, etc. Acknowledging that yes, there are more bells and whistles on pricier models, this has been an excellent first printer! The larger print size has allowed for larger print possibilities without the hassle of splitting parts and, combined with Cura's slicer, has been very "Newb" friendly. I added an enclosure and have even been able to safely and effectively produce good quality prints with carbon fiber polycarbonate at the lower end of the CF temp range. Honestly the only issues I have had so far have been self-inflicted as I have added upgrades, which this printer has been fairly easy to modify. As it is a less common brand it is just a bit harder to find specifications and walkthroughs for when considering upgrades. Overall I am very happy with this printer and wouldn't hesitate to buy the same again if I were starting over. Thank you for your recommendation!
For your stormtrooper helmet, do you scale the print size down to make it fit in one piece? I can't quite decide how you have it oriented in the video clips you've shared and haven't been able to do the same in Cura without scaling down.
I have enjoyed your videos, hate to see you go! Most of my intro to 3d printing and decisions have been based largely on your work. I have appreciated your thorough and honest reviews.
Thank you!
What enclosure did you get for this printer
Alfawise is the same brand as Longer.
I have the LK 5 Pro and I have never had one failed print that wasn’t user error. I agree I would recommend this printer to anyone that wants to get started or someone that has been doing this for a long time. The Longer printer works every time I ask it to. Great printer and the only bed slinger I will ever buy.
first? I never heard of that brand but I may look into it!
Have you ever tried Prusas? They are my favorites and they have a big community. They are a bit smaller, but they just PRINT. They are a bit more expensive though. However, I would love to try out the Longer. I am looking into getting another and I might choose the Longer if it works that well.
A "bit" more expensive? You could buy THREE of these printers for the cost of one Prusa... and the Prusa would have a small build plate.
@@tvideo1189 That is true, what is your top printer pick?
@@crazybird199 I only have four printers, not 25.. For me, personally, the Artillery 300x300 printers fit the bill just fine. Inexpensive, robust, MUCH better heat limits, direct drive... my X1 and X2 work fine. And now my Sovol SV06 Prusa clone is BETTER than the i3 series at LESS than a third of the price. Even my old ANET A8, after I had modded it into submission, prints perfectly.
@@tvideo1189 I'll look into those, thanks
Lol. "A BIT more expensive"????//??? That's like saying a Ferrari is a bit more expensive than a Yugo...
Auto Bed Leveling?
I HAVE THE ALFAEISE U30 PRO WICH IS REALY THE LONGER LK4 PRO I HAVE MANY PROBLEMS WITH IT I CANT PRINT NOTHING WITHOUT A STOP IN THE MIDDLE MANY MODELS GO TO TRASH THIS HAS NOT BEEN REALYEBLE FOR ME AT ANY TIME. IT CAN BE THAT MY PRINTERS MAIN BOARD IS DAMAGED OR THE POWER SUPPLY I DONT KNOW
Sad not to see some American or European brands.
I love my LK5Pro and I am also doing reviews on the LK4 X and have been using it for around 4 days now so far. Glad to see someone being honest instead of trying to be a 3D printer elitist snob.
It's not being a snob when that printer lacks MOST of the current better parts and pieces, for making better prints with less hazzle.
Yeah but if they are very hard to acquire, and even more incredibly expensive what's the point?
Hmm. 😉
The only times mine failed are from my own stupid actions 🤦♂️
Useless review without showing some metrics regarding print quality and speed. It might be great for that price, but if the side walls are rough because the layer thicknesses are not uniform or the extruder isn't uniform or the first layer is bad. This was basically an advertisement.
He already reviewed this printer in another video. Your post was useless.
WOW 600$ usd where I live, hard pass
People are swearing about the fokoos odin
worst printer ever... this printer is not so great, it's not fully compatible with Cura, comes with a warp bed and no BLtouch.
The title of this video falsely makes it sound like a 25 printer shootout. It's actually just an opinion on 25 printers he's owned over the years. Shameless....
hey man, not trying to crap on your parade but i had a ender 3 for about 2 years and want a 2nd printer for a few reasons. i bought a alfawise u30 which is the same company just name games. in short it was the worst printer i have ever had, the problems and part failures came one after another and it now sits in my garage covered until someone wants it for parts. contact me if interested.
Sorry to hear that, man. Printers that don't print properly are just plain frustrating. I actually have owned the Alfawise U20 and U30 and I have to say that they're night and day different than the Longer LK5. I also own the Longer LK4X and it's also super reliable. Neither of the Longers have given me issues. Could just be a lucky set or something but seriously, they've been so reliable. Hopefully you can get someone to take the Alfawise off your hands!