Did I Buy a $1,000,000 3D Printer?!
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- I just purchased a crazy SLS 3D printer. It's a Formlabs Fuse 1+ 30W. I also got its post-processing station, the Formlabs Sift. This is a video to show the delivery, unboxing and my first impressions of them. Those tools will allow me to push my hardware prototyping capabilities even further. A true engineering dream.
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Formlabs Fuse 1+ 30W Printer: bit.ly/kenpio_fuse1plus30w
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0:00 Delivery
0:55 Unboxing
1:34 Supports Explanation
2:05 FDM Printers
2:25 SLA Printers
3:00 SLS Printers
4:48 My Strategy
5:23 Post-processing
6:06 Powder Reuse
6:43 First Print
7:42 Second Print
8:04 Channel Update
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Filming and editing by Ken
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Apple decided to copy your USB-C iPhone idea. Reporting here just in case
can't believe it's been two years already since I made that project, time flies!
i hate apple
😂
@@ExploringTheSimulation Why must you hurt me, when i show you, nothing but love?
I'm not old!
Jokes aside, yeah, it's like the last two - three years have gone without even saying hello.
@@ExploringTheSimulationand the type c airpods too, too bad they didn’t copy the repairability aspect too 😬
Welp Micronics just announced their 3000$ home SLS printer + station
I wrote my thoughts on that here: www.linkedin.com/posts/kpillonel_the-new-2999-sls-3d-printer-has-just-been-activity-7185527331111804928-foe7?
7:49 Helpful hint: just above the area you are trying to vacuum are the two quartz tube frames. They are user-removeable by removing a single socket head screw on each side (2.5mm) and sliding the frames out. They are designed for this and it will not void your warranty.
(Source: have worked on a Fuse 1 and a Fuse 1+)
Fuse1 is an awesome machine, I’ve worked with it for over a year, I had some awesome prints, for feedback, sometimes cleaning the parts can be exhausting especially when you make mass production, but it’s still worth it. But I would recommend for you to move the machines away from the living room. Even though it has its own vacuum, in time you will see some dust parts arounda the room, if you have an Opportunity, I’d recommend you to isolate the sift, and always wear a mask. Hope you habe great prints like me. Great video btw
That looks very cool. I like the way you have built up to this level, step by step. I am excited to see what you will bring us next, because you have some wonderful ideas. Good luck!
Step by step is definitely the way to go. Not in a rush, and it's always about the journey, not the destination. Thank you for tagging along
congrats for this amazing machine, i visited a uni that had the same and tons of other ones and it was amazing what you can do with it
yeah it's really amazing, going to unlock a ton of possibilities :) thank you
Congratulations, it's very inspiring.
You earned it man! Cant wait to see all the cool stuff you'll make with it
thanks for watching!!
My dream! Thanks for sharing, really feel jealous in a good way!
Awesome video as always, can't wait to see what will come next! 🇨🇭
BRO! This machine is my dream!
Wow congrats on the amazing new machine!
thanks Jessy! I definitely watched a lot of your videos when I got started with SLA printers :)
This is amazing, hope you will have a lot of fun with it!
What I'd love to see would be a modified iPhone.
It would feature: A micro SD card slot, a user removable battery, a headphone jack and maybe physical privacy kill switches on the back.
It would show the entire smartphone industry (especially Apple) that phones like that would be possible and people actually want to have them.
I love your content, thank you so much for shifting the consumer electronics industry into a better state!
Thank you for the kind comment. Getting a bit tired of AirPods but definitely have a lot of plans for the iPhone ;)
As a engineering student I can tell you bro lives my dream life
This guy is living every makers dream
This is more like a $20-30k machine
Still very cool!
He showed the price of the printer, including the sift station, and it converts to $59k USD
glad you like it!
I half expected an "And we're done" after pulling the protective sheet off at the end, haha.
I'm guessing you're doing inhouse production of the Airpods parts?
thank you for watching :)
really interesting video ! just subscribed, Thanks for the content
thank you for subscribing :)
To answer title, no he didn't buy a 1 million dollar printer.. They are around $30,000 USD
I don't like this title, but gotta play by CZcams's rules. Thank you for watching ✌️
@@ExploringTheSimulationclickbaiter
If you print hollow ball how you get rid of the powder from inside?
Which welder did you use to weld the threaded studs into the nuts?
Looks very interesting.
It's from Lampert. I show it more in other videos, and you will also find a link in the description of these videos. Keep it mind that it's a jewellery welder and completely overkill for what I used it here. Some solder and a soldering iron will work too. Thank you for watching
Omg yt just recommended this video to me and i think i remember you from a digitec article. Loved this video and the video about the airpods. Glad you've got so far with youtube, definitely deserved! Greetings from solothurn :)
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@ 6:54 What is that spot welding tool you are using?! I am a welder and that looks very interesting.
Can you provide a price breakdown of SLS printer and the other machines used in the work flow of it please.
What did you to do address safety? SLS not only requires very low humidity to operate, the entire room should be put under negative pressure such that fine particles can escape. SLS, because of the fine powder, is particularly prone to fine particulate matter emissions, which can be very hazardous, when operating around the machines frequently, it's even wise to wear a mask. This looks like a room in a normal house, so i'm just hoping you have some kind of ventilation system that's more than just an open window :)
Otherwise, very cool to own an SLS machine, color me jealous!
Haven't had problems with humidity yet. As far as I'm concerned, the printer is filtered. The only moment where I see particles escaping is when I transport the build chamber from the printer to the Sift station, so I wear a mask then. I'm going to get a separate space for the all my mechanical tools eventually, just don't have the funds to do it right now. For now that setup will have to work.
Thank you for caring about my health and watching the video :)
Hmm the video got recommended in 20 seconds?!
First comment! Thank you!
FDM is suitable for printing very strong parts for several applications when done correctly.
At the end of the day, FDM is a process that creates parts with incredibly anisotropic properties. So if by 'done correctly', you mean designing parts that cannot be strong in every direction, you are correct. The goal of the video is just to give an introduction to the technology and summarize things. I still stand that I would not use FDM for critical applications. Thank you for watching
100%. A lot of my parts are very small, so print orientation is always on my mind. SLS is a very cool process and it does create very strong parts, but it requires a huge financial investment in comparison for such a small print volume. You can get a used 5 axis CNC machine for less. I think the future of SLS is metal printing.@@ExploringTheSimulation
Quick note, SLA stands for Stereo lithography apparatus
Thank you!! Did not know this
My question is how do you get the trapped powder out of a piece thay has enclosed chambers?
Great question! If it's fully closed, you either leave the powder inside (adds extra weight and cost since you can't reuse that powder), or you make sure it is not fully closed by adding a small hole to your model so that you can remove the powder :)
hey mate, do you wanna share the timelaps video of you building the shelve for the FDM printer? got the shelve like you, but kinda stuggeling with the filament - don't quite know where to put them so it's a clean setup (currently it's in the shelve next to the printer)
Place it on top in a drybox and route with PTFE tubes. I made this a few years ago, and it's honestly not great. Looks like Bambu Labs came up with a great solution and am waiting for someone to make it compatible to Prusa printers or that Prusa steps up their game
I love 3d printers but they are always expensive 😮 but very nice printer you got I can understand these conditions
I noticed 6KG of nylon was 669CHF. Thats quite a lot per KG compared to FLM filament. How much would it cost you to produce each airpod case as shown in the video?
haven't estimated yet, but the cases are super light and most of the powder can be reused. It's definitely more expensive than FDM or SLA, but the end result is just not comparable. Definitely worth it for what I want to do with it. The only viable alternative is injection molding and that's way more expensive.
Awesome tool you got there, hope it serves you well. Please release the wired AirPods video, I need to know how you did it 😭.
I won't make a video about it, it was a 'joke' project for April 1st :)
Yeahhh step by step ton lab prend de l'ampleur c'est trop classe !
expert idea to do the leveling on a carpet
I didn't though... I just pulled away the stationary feet on the carpet to move the whole thing. When it was in its final position, I did the leveling (not shown on the video). To do the leveling, the printer needs to be turned on as it helps you to do it the right way.
That Dyson is NOT designed to handle fine nylon powder. It can kill it or cause a fire hazard. There's a reason the station you got comes with a specific ESD and fire rated vacuum to handle those powders. I designed and manufactured SLS and SLM systems for 6 years so I know a thing or two about this.
You're right! I realized this not long after posting the video and stopped using the Dyson. Thanks for watching :)
Would like to see how this stacks up against the upcoming Micronics Desktop SLS printer...
I wrote my thoughts on that here: www.linkedin.com/posts/kpillonel_the-new-2999-sls-3d-printer-has-just-been-activity-7185527331111804928-foe7?
Besides pure protoyping, when you _sell_ 3D-printed items in small series (say, 25 to 100 units per month), can SLS fit the bill compared to FDM? Stacking items in the whole build volume of the print chamber is tempting. In the other hand, FDM 3D printers are so cheap (sub $1000) so they can run in parallel in a small farm; and above all, PLA, PETG, ASA filaments are so cheap (about $20 per kilogram, sometimes less, sometimes more for advanced ones). Even if a disruptive company is about to come with a $3K SLS 3D printer on the market, the PA12 powder is still quite exepensive. Non-sintered powder can be reused, admitedly. There is also the mandatory time waiting for the build chamber to cool down before being able to unmold the cake, then manual post-processing. In the end, all boils down to the question: what are the economics for a small shop?
My thoughts on the $3k printer: www.linkedin.com/posts/kpillonel_the-new-2999-sls-3d-printer-has-just-been-activity-7185527331111804928-foe7?
I think you're only comparing them based on economics, but you can't really do that because use cases can be wildly different just based on part strength and, even more importantly, surface finish quality. I would never sell FDM-printed AirPods cases, so I can't even compare the economics between the two technologies for that application. SLS was the cheapest and most agile option for me.
Thought you were printing dreams with 3d printer.
Can´t imagine how your couch and all other stuff gonna be covered in Nylon powder.
Love the way you used the printer for the title card, so satisfying!
Yeah the title was so retro 😊
did anyone else notice the dead pixels in the top left at 4:36 4:44 lol thought my monitor was messed up for a min
I've been watching you since day 1 of the iPhone series. Awesome video as always and if I had to guess, you are making refurbished AirPods :))
thanks for sticking around :)
And the award for the most accurate thumbnail goes to..😂
How homie got a shop vac in an apartment
pragmatism
no way this is a 1million.
watch the video ;)
Oh shit, that's what Aubert & Duval does with metal powders, this technique produces extremely durable and intricate parts, that's how you make million dollar military parts
well if you have the metal melting version that it, but that plastic one is this extremely cool
hopefully I get a metal one someday! thank you for watching
Hmmm i wonder how good benchy can it produce(Side note im pretty sure ender 3 users will still find something to improve on your benchy print if you print it)
Haha I think someone else printed a benchy with it! Definitely saw a video showing it
P.S. nice video but haha at the end the part you printed for the vacum with FDM broke because the orientation was wrong in the first place. If you would tilt it 45-90 degrees to the side it would never broke :)
You are correct that the orientation can be changed; however, it adds a lot of supports, and other features would then also perhaps not be very strong. Hence, it showcases my point about having to make tradeoffs with FDM. Thank you for your comment.
This printer was about 20 grand when they rolled it out, the price has 3X since then? IIRC the machine was like 14K and the material removal station was $6-$7K? (USD).
I'm showing prices for Switzerland, which is not even part of the EU. US prices are cheaper.
there is a new 3k usd printer that does sls now
Curious why this and not a Sintratec S3? Also check out headmade SLS cold metal poweders - you might just have a metal printer yet
+1 - Swiss Company. 🙂
It's always nice to see the work you're doing, especially scaling up production on your kits and the soon-to-be-announced ████████ which of course I'm looking forward to.
But even beyond that, your steady and consistent explanations, along with your calm voice and pleasant accent, make this videos incredibly relaxing, even just to listen to the audio while I work on other things! Almost like asmr but with technical things instead :)
Glad you enjoy it!
So, a follow up on this perhaps? Cleaned much? :D
still going strong! no problem so far
Why are gyms so expensive in Switzerland?
free mountains though
What was the cost? it's an incredible machine. Is it messy?
I show the invoice in the video ;) not messy at all!
Cool, you are lucky to afford this equipment. Have youtube helped you with that?
For sure. I would never have all those tools without CZcams! Thank you for watching
I wonder how fast this SLS compare to MJF or FDM, how much the total for purchasing this fuselab
I don't know about MJF (think it's similar) but FDM is definitely quicker, although the part quality is nowhere near close.
Showed the invoice in the video ;)
HP MJF has larger throughput because the print job is faster and the build volume of HP printers is much larger - 41[L] compared to 8.1[L] for the Fuse1+.
but the cost of MJF printer is MUCH more (~x10) so it's less suitable for small startup. While the Fuse1+ provide approx. same part quality in much cheaper and less requirements from the site.
FDM VS SLS - while FDM can print single part faster (in some cases only, that the parts are small), for multiple part, SLS will always win. big difference.
im so jealous. now the next level 3d printer you need to buy is a carbon 3d dls printer which you can't actually buy it but carbon will rent it to you for 200k a year. haha
Suddenly the printer is 950k cheaper than the title 🤔
Ok I am going to hazard a guess that you will be selling complete USB C AirPods cases. If that’s the case I can’t wait to buy one. My first gen AirPods pros are still working well and it would be wasteful to upgrade for quite awhile. Best of luck man you do the kind of stuff that I wish I had the Know-how to do.
thank you!
at this point I would have gotten something like the Mimaki full-color 3D printer
maybe one day :) thank you for the suggestion
Oh man, let me just shell out two fucking grand or more for that formlabs recommendation.
Have you seen the new consumer sls video by micronic
I wrote my thoughts on that here: www.linkedin.com/posts/kpillonel_the-new-2999-sls-3d-printer-has-just-been-activity-7185527331111804928-foe7?
Get a Swiss SLS printer next! 😏
add me on LinkedIn ;)
The hints didn’t help I already want to know!
soon! thank you for watching
no more little boat?
Sid from Toy Story grew up for the better
stuff made here also has one
High Quality AirPods Pro USB-C Replacement Cases on the making!!!!
Close :)
Can't wait for your next video update. Your videos are so unique! Keep up the good work @@ExploringTheSimulation
No you didnt buy a $1m printer. Its 30 - 50k. Clickbaiting ftl.
Now that iPhone has USB-C, make an iPhone 15 with lightning, for all those that miss their lightning cables/accessories 😅
Damn.
$50,000 is not too bad, considering Covid corporate handout inflation. That's about $35,000 in 2019 money.
But I need it to do metal, at least aluminum
hopefully one day I get a metal one! thanks for watching
Hell, the cost of the better wheels is a no brainer compared to the cost of the machine.
True! But I don't know, in the beginning it just felt weird spending $240 on some wheels haha
Man you guys have a lot of awesome stuff in you’re country btw Could you print guns ???
You can do that with regular FDM printers if you know what you’re doing.
So i guess my ender 3 is 50,000 cause thatd what a stratasys used to cost and they were the only thing om the market at a time
8:28 lol
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How much was it?? Love it!
I show the invoice in the video ;)
@@ExploringTheSimulationtime stamp? I can’t seem to find it😂
@@portcityengineering 4:41
@@ExploringTheSimulation😮 Actually way more affordable than I thought it was!
bruh the printer was $59829.66 why the clickbaity title
youtubers be youtubers
That is still a ton of noney😅
It's the amount he'll make from the video
Yes precision is beautiful but I appreciate the size. Will stick to my 400x400x400 Creality CR10 S4 for now.
apples to oranges, but glad you're into 3d printing too!
@@ExploringTheSimulation Apples and oranges both still make a good fruit brandy. How did you save up for a machine like this?
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Why click bait the title with $1,000,000 when it's a $25k printer?
I don't like doing this but it's the way CZcams works. Hopefully the viewers will look past the clickbait and enjoy the content :) thank you for watching
En attendant le reveal 😂
bientôt !!
Wow! You can meet the iPhone AirPods that you've been waiting for
I'll look forward to it!!!
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thanks ebb!
Man, SLS printer requires special anti-fire / anti-explosion setup. If you have it in appartment building, dont tell anyone as it will be 100% banned by the landlords but most importantly the (Fire Department) authorities.
bro bought a 1 million dollar printer just to print some new table legs 💀💀💀
5:22 sorry to break it to you but most things you interact with each day are both expensive and hazardous, machines that can make a PCB are not all that dangerous but if you are feeling spicy grab a lathe they are the most hazardous tool in a machine shop.
A lathe is definitely a very dangerous tool. I don't own one but have been using one pretty regularly. Hoping to get a CNC instead! Thank you for watching :)
professional upstairs neighbor
guess that's me haha
I haven't printed with overhangs in years. I just have pauses whenever i reach a preset layer under the overhang and i introduce a preset ABS surface in the print area that then gets printed on and takes place of the wasted structure.
interesting, I don't think I ever saw someone using this technique!
Where's the one million dollar machine?
4:22
50 percent rate of deflation every two years from retail price. Digital and all output of digital tech in general. Inform this principle. Crowd source purchase of the best designs for machining in all materials and the owners can access the suite of machines to produce anything at cost of raw materials all parts in any assembly. No IP infringement copy anything. You won't need to sell anything you can make everything.
I'm really sorry, but I tried really hard to understand what you mean and just couldn't :/
Yea i wouldnt have that in my living room.
SLS is too messy, and power hungry,apart from limited throughput(24 hr cycle time). You can do mulilayer pcbs inhouse at fraction of the cost if you know how to.❤👍
Thank you for the comment. Gotta disagree with pretty much everything you said though... I didn't find SLS to be too messy, with that Sift station it's definitely better than SLA printing. Power hungry I have honestly not measured yet so I can't confirm nor deny. 24hr cycle time is completely wrong, I found it to be more like 2-3 hours between each print. I didn't say it's impossible to do multilayer PCB at home, I just said it's a waste of time in my opinion. If you want to make just one PCB and you need it the same day and you don't count of much your time is worth, then maybe it could be considered. As soon as you do more than one PCB, or a flexible one, or want to ship to a customer, just forget in-house production.
@@ExploringTheSimulationI did investigate SLS in depth for several months, so you would understand what I mentioned as you start using the system. Also found the rfid cartridges,a bit expensive(may not be for smaller parts and high value parts) for mass production. Recycling is another issue, both the spent powder and the "real" % of resuable used powder. If you look at the electrical requirements, you will understand my comment on the same.
Has a limit on minimum attainable feature size( compared to resin, but good as FDM). Also needs additional finishing, if you don't like the rough texture. For prototypes, small parts at volume, small volume of large parts that are premium priced, should not be an issue. I have an inhouse PCB production, that rivals any commercially made one, unfortunately cannot disclose much. For the right market SLS may be the right choice, be stringent on PPE though. Good luck with your current and future projects♥️👍
@@aware2action you investigated it? What does that mean?
AirPods cases.....wooohooooo
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4:05 definitly not true but...
Thinks resin printing is unhealthy (it is), proceeds to pour ultra fine nylon powder in machine. The SLS is by far worse for your health then resin products.
TL;DW: no he did not
The music is way too load and making me leaf, real shame.
No, you didn’t. The title is just clickbait 👎
Video title totally a clickbait...
Agree. It wasn't at all needed. The video is very good.