Do you agree with Carlo Ancelotti's comments on modern football? | ESPN FC Extra Time
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What is there to disagree. Carlo's right. Football tactics have changed. Once upon a time the top clubs had an exceptionally gifted player who is head and shoulders above everyone and dictated how the team played. But other teams evolved tactics to negate them, whether by physical play or low defensive blocks or whatever. It became a luxury for the super technical player to just stroll around. Yes, he could still be technical but he had to marry it with physical abilities as well, such as being fast enough to avoid getting marked and blocked off to be effective. The rest of the team also had to be faster in order to beat the low block.Pretty soon speed and physical ability became the primary feature. Another factor was that back in the old days, systems were pretty static. Players were very specialized and comparatively tended to stick to their area of the field. If you were an attacker, you were pretty useless in defending. If you were a defender, don't expect the guy to dribble, pass or even score goals in open play. So if you were one of those super passers, you can be effective without being good at anything else. The best example was the 4-4-2 (not the diamond, but the one with two wide midfielders). It was static system, which opposing teams found they could negate by using a more flexible and fluid system which allowed them to outnumber the 4-4-2 team by moving more players into areas of the field where play was. As a result players had to be more dynamic. Of course, these are all very broad brushstrokes used to emphasize the small differences in evolving tactics of football.
@@zalemdreamsyou are very right.
Thank Mr. Guardiola.
That’s one of the reasons James Isco and kaka at Madrid ended up phasing out. The game was evolving after a while and players like them were getting used less and less. Jude plays in the same position right now for Madrid that they played except in Jude’s case he tracks back hard… I miss Isco under Zidane… he was a different gravy.
James was not liked by Zidane. Kaka was hit by injuries. And isco was always a rotation player. Nothing of what you said is backed by facts
@@dalic24 James and Isco were benched in favour of Casemiro and Kroos. Zodane clearly didn't want creative players since he knows they take time on the ball and this would reduce the powers of Cristiano who could give them 50 goals a season if they passed more to him than play their game.
the problem with isco was his fitness
Fitness an injuries also contributed. If you look Madison one of the best players this season played that same position.
Lmao. Kaka phased out out because of injuries and Ozil. You never watched Isco at Madrid because one of the reasons why James kept seeing the bench was because Isco was tracking back, defending.
I Love How Jan gets his point across with humour.
you should see him almost lose a foot race against a fish, now thats funny😅
@@jesperhjensen1978 aww come on , the pundits will never let that die, no need for the comment section to bring it up
Thank you Ale Moreno for mentioning CV10 🇨🇴. Legend of legends
Ohh man, they got to ask everyone about their first memories on ESPN.
2010 fan here, been watching ESPN Press Pass since my high school days 😁
Been watching since 2012, it's actually crazy that these guys have managed to keep the show going over there. It's all the same people too which is crazy
"Hi there" from Seb Salazar always become the opening discussion in Extra Time hahaha
It was nice hearing the day one stories of the panel today.
“Dont Hutchinson “ is hilarious 😅
This Norwegian guy he's just genious
Ah my day is complete now!
So Mbappe helps out defensively?? Talk about a "lazy" player who is only interested in attacking
I love this show so much 😂
Another thing to add is in the last 5 to 7 years top teams employ high pressure in opponents half. That is very physical
Jan’s outta line. But he’s right!
Uh hazard naingollan lukaku higuain were all very overweight. Messi as well tbh.
Moreno is hilarious hahaahh " YES Jan... YES"
Valeramma is similar to Messi...im sure he would do good in 2023 football
Shaka has been around this joint since 2007?!! wow. I was just 3 then 👀
facts crazy
The Valderrama thing is exactly the downfall of the of the old school 10. Ozil being the biggest recent example.
The pre2020 Pep loved to have eleven “number 10” type of players playing on the pitch.
He knows more football than all these people
@@thierryhenry674pep is the biggest reason for the death of the number 10
@@faisal6329KDB ring any bells? Foden?
@russellward4624 you named 2 players that aren't a 10. And so far removed from the classic 10 it's ridiculous how you bought them up
Ale moreno talking about valdarama, so u r saying there is no space in 2 days game 4 someone with messi's ability
I think the whole America as a continent needs to have one tournament union for much fun , South America and north America idea is dull
Somehow Messi just won the World Cup jogging around and seeing space and then going for it ... not unlike Valderrama. Hmmmmm.....
International football is played at a different tempo.
Sergio busquets guys. I think if you are as genius as busquets no one cares about that much running. It's all about your team formation
There's nothing to argue about with this man. Name someone who is as close in success as he is then they are the ones who can say he's wrote or not. Not me ....
Great episode, I was lol
Systems, systems, systems. No room for individuals. Reflects the times we live in, unfortunately.
Loads of individuals. Just no room for selfish players, fortunately. That only care about thier stats and don't help in defense.
@@russellward4624 Fortunately? Today's football lacks flair. I've always really admired dribbling skills and creative midfield play. I watch a lot of games in several leagues and rarely see a player go on a long rampaging dribbling run past several players. Grealish used to do it at Villa, but then Guardiola tamed all that fun "selfishness" out of him and made him a "better" player. Yeah, and a boring one.
@TT-fq7pl KDB doesnt have flair? Foden? Alvarez? Grealish isn't playing the same position. He has a differnt role.
@@russellward4624 Not flair the way it used to be. Don't get me wrong: today's players are highly technically gifted, and amazingly fit, and they're impressive in those regards. But in my opinion, they're over-managed and too many restrictions are put on their individual expression. As for Man City, the most creatively entertaining player they have is Bernardo Silva. But then, the Portuguese still manage somehow to express themselves these days.
@TT-fq7pl yes and by flair they mean don't work hard in defense.
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Shaka: "I was hoping you forgot"
he's hilarious 😂😂
Not him saying USA is one of the top 4 teams in Copa America 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haven’t been keeping up with it, but after ARG and BRA who else is better then USA?
@marcelcueva7777 Uruguay and Argentina are the best currently in South America. Brazil follows. I would keep Columbia above USA. I haven't seen much of USA games recently, but have seen Columbia vs Brazil and Columbia played really good.
We will see at the copa anyway.
Well managers today are clearly pushing the players to hard and then blames the program for it. Now they've gotten extra subs too which changes the game completely. Players are sprinting around like crazy from start to finish now. Actually makes me question how they manage to do that.
Eventually it's gonna reach a point and go the other way again.
Yes I agree 💯
Was Ale speaking about Pedri? 🤣🤣
Hey there everybody... ALEEEEEEEE 😂😂😂😂
it's all about versatility. look at the last few UCL winners, their teams and star players. they float and adapt. it's why messi is the only one of the old guard to still have been on top
Carlo ancelotti will stun the world on what might be his last days as a manager
The ball still 'runs' faster than any player.
These clowns used to complain about Messi walking around the pitch at Barca and PSG all the time
and it never stopped him from commanding the whole field.
So the question is do you agree or not about football with one of the greatest manager in football?
That’s right
this is Manchester United’s problem summarized to a T , the lack of endurance based players on the team is a primary factor for lack of consistency , it’s a team that cannot press and win the ball back , as well as make runs behind consistently … what the team lacks is energy and physicality
These modern day players are basic and would be average footballers in the past btw the players like zidane and r9 were very physical and also and capable of way more magic with the football
I think all players and coaches dreaming of Real Madrid.
Only those who wants to cheat their way into success
Jose Mourinho said himself once you start playing or working for Real Madrid nobody wants to leave 😂
Watch what you say. Barkalona dogs will be salty in the comments
@@Triple_X_XWhat third world country are you from, let's have a guess
@@mar.c1 bruh 😂 Barca fans be trolling every comments section on every Jude video they are always dragging him weird it's like they have nothing better to do
Copa America being played in the American continent, what a crazy idea….
I think USA/Mexico are the 2 outlier teams in the entire world that just don't fit into their territory. Everywhere else teams are very balanced as far as competition levels so I really don't see a problem with having them play in copa america
Australia used to be part of Oceani federation, France is ahead of every team in the world by a long shot since 2016, specially with Germany and Italy struggling.
And Senegal has been dominating Afrika for some time now.
Mexico and the United States are in the continent of America so they should be in it
Mexican futbal has been declining. When I was younger always said layers in very high op clubs ( like Barca and Madrid). Mexico used to scare everyone.
Oh Sebby, we know you got bullied in high school and we love you
I use to like Chivas USA.
I believe that the most effective and most authentic style is the old British style of play. It's the most sensible style, not too flashy and not too fast, sensible passing and ball controlling. Other styles of play are too flashy, too fast, too physical. The game has evolved too much into a power and fitness sport, not enough authenticity in the game.
...but the English and German leagues have been the ones driving that evolution towards a game based on pace and power rather than skill. If you take pure skill the Spanish, Italians and Portuguese blow English and Germans out of the water.
Don Carlo.
More like Don Pep Guardiola!
Dembele 💀💀💀
Ozil, james rodriguez, isco and coutinho all failed despite immense talent...they could not play CAM since they refused to help in defence, they could not play as wingers since they were not fast enough and refused to press...the free 10 is dead(only bruno)
Lol, you are kidding Ozil literally best assistgiver in Messis prime. Part of the team that stopped Barcas best team in history. Integral part of the German world cup team that dominated the world cup in Brasil. Unstoppable in the Bundesliga in his youth, plus some good years in Arsenal. James had one world class world cup and some elite years at Benfica and 1 ok year in Madrid. Coutinho some good years at Liverpool.
@@majormononoke8958 and why could he not get in a finished arsenal side, why was he not playing at 28yrs old...and if you think its just about his relationship with arsenal...why was there no single club even in the french league that wanted to sign him when he left arsenal...he was good in the early 2010s the game evolved and he didnt
Isco has great form in Real Betis this season. So maybe we can exclude him from this list.
this is one of the most ridiculous takes i’ve seen on this app
That was when football was transitioning back in 2018 teams were barely evolving …the 10 doenst fit anymore in Modern football in 2023
CONCACAF & CONMEBOL need to merge. Both would benefit and it would make them more powerful.
Easily the Best football show and far better than anything on sky or TNT sports in uk - up there with saint and greavsie
13:30 yes, there is a new set of footballers now, but they are no way near as talented as 90's players or before that. Yes they are more physically prepared, but I dont want to watch fitness models running around.
Who isnt as technical? You think Craig Burley was so technical?
Madrid still has the old school aproach and the their player are better then some legend and they are more dynamic, the only club that did not buy pep idea is still playing old school football where players play, vini under pep would not be the guy he is today cuz pep tells h how to play.
The game has changed because there are better athletes now.
Xabi Alonso is going to West Ham to be with his old buddy Tim Steiden.
Ancelloti is the right but he's underestimating the individual quality of Bellingham as well as his technical brilliance. Tactics heavy on pressing and counter-pressing require workers and this is what has driven the 10 position into obscurity. My boy Ozil just got exiled into his livingroom. Big fan of Zidane but he didn't have to deal with the heavy pressing of today. The tempo was different and overall quality of the league was weak. La Liga of today is harder for everybody, more parity.
Bellingham is underrated because he doesn't score beautiful goals and doesn't have the body of a midfielder...so he doesn't give the impression of a technically intelligent player.
2007 😲
Who has the best defense across Europe? Lets find out shall we.
Shot Creating Actions (SCA) vs top teams across Europe.
-Vs city, 170 SCA
-Vs Leverkusen, 176 allowed.
-Vs Bayern, 178.
-Vs Arsenal, 183 allowed.
Arsenal isn't just the best or one of the best defensive team in the PL, but in the world. This will be proven the further we go.
Goal Creating Actions (GCA) allowed.
Juventus allowed only 12 GCA, inter 13, Leverkusen 14, Arsenal 14.
Clearly, Arsenal is to be considered the superior defensive team here, because the context shows that the quality of attackers in the league of the teams ranked slightly ahead or tied, aren't as potent as those that Arsenal have gone up against.
Take-Ons That Leads To Shot Attempt:
When in comes to a defense getting dribbled past that leads to a shot from the opponent, Leverkusen have only been beaten 4 times off the dribble that leads to a shot, Atletico only 7 in such case, Arsenal 3rd in the table with 8.
Again, does Leverkusen and Atletico goes up against better attacking players every weekend than what Arsenal face? I highly doubt it. What makes this even more impressive, is that Arsenal play the highest line out of those 3 teams.
If we are talking about conceding goal scoring chances from Live-Ball passes from the opponent, Leverkusen, Juventus, and Arsenal, have conceded only 5, 6 and 7 goal scoring chances from the opponent respectively.
Goals Conceded:
Nice have conceded 4 goals but again, context shows that L1 quality of attackers aren' that good, because there's no way Nice is the best defensive team across Europe
10 goals scored vs Arsenal, 10 vs Liverpool, 10 vs Leverkusen, 9 vs Bayern, 8 vs Real M, 7 vs Atletico.
There was a penalty given against Arsenal vs chelsea, that should not have been given, and in the same game, a complete fluke goal by Mudryk. So really, Arsenal can even be considered to have conceded only 8 goals for argument sake.
Overall though, it's fair to suggest that Arsenal is currently the best defensive team in the world
did you already watch the whole video 💀
😂lil man wrote all that scroll all for me to say he's faced just fodder teams in the ucl group stages
And Prem too is overrated.. Lewandowski can score 50 goals in that less Technical league 😂
See how they can't even Compete in Europe this season, their reign is over 😂😂
cause you definitely used AI or something to write this whole shtick 💀
@@dead_r33dNo he didn't.. He'd probably saved this comment somewhere so he posted it when he saw a Madrid video
He thought they'd talked about something about "who's the best" since it has Madrid in it 😂
Excellent post. We arent even at full strength yet. Madrid dont have Mitiao but Timber is missing as well. Its look good bruv 👍👏🏾
COYG ❤
fifa rankings make the pots
Its so much better when Craig is not there when Seb is. Its absolute cringe seeing a show get derailed like that.
Lol. What are you talking about. Dan+Craig+Shaka/Ale+Frank is the dream team lol. I love Seb but he's too soft.
@@lalainaramariveloCraig and Steve when they are on are absolute a**holes to Seb. Sure he never complains but it gets jarring as the viewer. Those 2 are arguably the more popular ones but they work best with other hosts, like Dan with Craig or Kay with Steve
@@afifmajid8754 Exactly. There's no reason for it either. I get that Seb can be a bit nerdy with US football but Craig and Stevie make it a mission to cut Seb down to size.
It's not being soft. For me it's toxic and shouldn't be on professional broadcast.
I like banter like the next person and it could be seen on this extra time. I guarantee you would not see this playfulness when Seb and Craig are on tmrw.
Fooootballll Americaaaaaa
Kids dont learn to play on the street anymore. Kids are overcoahced and dont play with imagination anymore, robotic now.
Football has always been and always will be the biggest sport in the world why is everyone trying to change everything about it. Lets take wrestling out of UFC because its so boring watching two people roll around on the floor
Leo Messi the last of the kind who could slow jog
🐐 THE ONE AND ONLY!
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The only Rap*st
Do you mean there's no place nowadays for a messi
B*tch messi is fast he just chooses to not exhaust himself stupidly hes not young anymore
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America doesn't care about futbol if we're being honest about it. I mean, the NBA, NFL, College Football (the funny shaped "football') and MLB all rank well beyond futbol. Other than money swaying the equation, it makes little sense to play an interesting tourney in the U.S. over the passion in other parts of South or Central America. To be honest, I don't want to watch games played in America where there is an utter lack of culture and affection for the game. The supporters chanting and singing is a great part of the sport. You get such a lesser version of that fan interaction when North American cities host.
wow, our game really moves in phases. 10 years ago, it was all about tiki-taka. Barcelona popularised technique-based football with a bunch of midgets. But remember that this was a counter trend to the late 2000s when the "Big 4" in English football were ruling Europe and the UCL. Then before that, Jan and Ale talk about the 90s when players like Carlos Valderrama were not that physical and possibly even fat. Mark my words, in 5 years from now, technique based football and tricky wingers will make a comeback.
there were 3 times UCL was won by a club from englands from 2000s to 2018, what do you by "big 4" ruling Europe .
Agreed on your other statements tho
@@AayushKhanal
exactly lol, some revisionist history there
I don't think football pundit should disagree with don carlo comment on the game of fofootball the man has see it all and conquered
There's a reason PSG failed miserably with Messi. He walks more than anything else quite literally. It works in the MLS but not in top leagues. That's fine as Messi is older and it's to be expected. But you can't have a 25 year old doing that in today's game, not possible.
Mate, it worked the literal previous year at Barcelona, then again during PSG at the WC. PSG just misused him, because their league is easier - from their position - than both the Laliga and the WC.
@@les_crow a Barcelona team that won the league once sure, but got completely dominated in any big European competition. And then the WC which is the most hotly contested WC to maybe ever exist with certain calls. Fact is against bigger teams that doesn’t work. It’s not even an opinion lol we have years of his late stage club career to point too.
@@pheaseyyif that's the case then why is messi the greatest player ever
@@edsonmawalla4203 He didn't always walk around the pitch lol? Not hard to understand
@@pheaseyy that's funny cause pep said that when messi walks around you should be very afraid
All rubish... football played this ways long time. Football is played every different way at the same time from ever since the beginning.
Shaka is not made for this job
When Don Carlo speaks I nod and agree! Yes, God Father!
Even much more better, everytime when I hear the Don Pep Guardiola speak, I believe it and nod without a corner of doubt. As he is the current European Treble champion that stomped Carlo Ancelotti and every other coach throughout his managerial career.
Bla bla bla…
@@Juliansmobilekitcken Well too bad that truth hurts you Pep haters.
😂😂😂 messi aint a physical specimen
messi is different he can be fast whenever he needed to
does the bald guy really don't know that host nations goes in pot 1? espn need more educated pundit
The only reason modern football has changed is because they have lost technically gifted players like Diego maradona cruyff messi Ronaldinho r9 inesta xavi zidane etc the golden era and have gotten players that only know how to be physical 😂 and with absolutely no football IQ and are elegance so they game had to be changed for it to still look good 😂
true, players like gavi got no football iq no skill no elegance he just bodies others and makes fouls
@@XXBlueThanosXXhonestly that's sounds like ramos
Yeah his philosophy is cheating
Juventus, Parma, Milan, Chelsea
All cheats but the don of all, Franco FC, his current club, no one cheat like them...They cheat in Ghost form.. that's Where Ronaldo learnt how to Ghost
Your right Franco never helped Barcelona and that’s why they always be giving him awards
bro is still crying that barca isnt on the same spectar like RM since messi left
@@XXBlueThanosXX You mean Barca aint on the level of LaLiga FC 😂
yet the only team that's found guilty in la liga is barca@@Triple_X_X
Barcelona-Dortmund ucl final, Ferran scores the winning goal.
😂😂
LOL BELLINGHAM IS OVERRATED ANYWAYS ALL HE DOES IS SCORE TAP IN LIKE PENALDO
bodies my idol robert lewandtapski 😭
sorry I let him out of the cage@@Realdfc
Pretty funny watching guys like Hislop and Moreno to judging comments by Anceloti, who won everything in footbal and imh is the best coach/trainer int he world. Also the similarities between Bellingham and Zidan and so much. Also to say that Zidan was not a physical player - joke! Roy Keane himself said that he never played against a more physical player than Zidan.
These modern day players are basic and would be average footballers in the past btw the players like zidane and r9 were very physical and also and capable of way more magic with the football
You are watching a wrong Club cuz those players are still around but they are all in one Club.
These modern day players are basic and would be average footballers in the past btw the players like zidane and r9 were very physical and also and capable of way more magic with the football
zidane wasnt physical...