Dell XPS 13 9360: 8th-gen Quad Core POWER!
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Dell XPS 13 9360 2017 Review
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Wow... what an absolute monster of a review. It appeared rehearsed and read off with a teleprompter (a very positive thing, not a negative comment) with absolute solid logical opinion through all whilst supplemented with great editing techniques with graphs shown where applicable and panning in/ out effects when the subject changes on the laptop.
You have done HU a real justice such a comprehensive and well executed video review of this laptop. Great presenting, topics covered and lots of objectivity and solid opinion.
Thumbs up and thanks!
This dude doesn't typically do a whole lot of their overall content, but he's always insightful when he does. I remember watching him do a monitor review a while back, which I wouldn't normally watch but I did because he really went in to quite a lot of detail in the variances between techs and stuff from the offset. Ended up watching the whole thing and remembering the dude.
Interesting! 13" is my favourite size of laptop, but I haven't really seen quad core CPUs in that size before
Jarrod'sTech I noticed how you and Hardware Unboxed always comment on each other's videos. It's quite nice. Sorta an Australian TechTuber alliance.
Haha us Aussie's gotta stick together :p
Zeke Levin to be fair hardware unboxed comments on every tech related channel :p
Alienware 13 r3 has quad core...(but is a bit bigger :D) or Gigabyte Aero 14
that's because intels new U series chips are 15W quad cores
I was sad when the video started playing and Steve wasn't on screen. Was happy that the content was still on par with Steve. Awesome review. Keep up the great work guys!
Keep up the great work Hardware Unboxed!
Really nice and thorough review! Thanks for that.
I was about to comment that you needed a Ryzen Mobile for comparison in here...glad to here you finally got one! I look forward to the review.
Great keep up the work
Great video Tim have you considered looking at commercial/business class machines such as the dell latitude line or the HP Probook and elite book laptops
+Gav Per yes but in general they are harder to get samples of
Will we get a comparison video between the Ryzen and 8th-gen intel Envy x360 convertibles?
Great video? Maybe a video on the Lenovo Yoga 920? I've heard good things about it and considering purchasing it and I'd love to hear the HUB opinion
Can't wait to see more Tim videos =D. Good job
Great analysis. Well done. :)
What about the ryzen 5 2500U?
Why does it still use LPDDR3?
My Lenovo Ideapad 320s has LPDDR4 at 2400MHz, so you see it is possible to use it
Are all the screen options the same refresh rates?
Is it possible to change the SSD? The storage is to small :)
I would really like to see this compared against the 8250u. It's got the same thread/cache size, slightly lower base clock (.1ghz), and a much lower boost.
Hi...
Would a Dell XPS 13 9360 with i7 8550u, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd be good enough for simple video editing (i dont really care about rendering times)
why havnt laptops had the track pads moved to the top of them yet? isnt that one of the biggest complaints on laptops?
Thats a wonderful scenery you got there... I like lakes beside mountains
Nice review, has dell fixed their half thunderbolt 3 bandwith?
Nope
Hardware Unboxed thanks a lot
Are there plans to review any of the ryzen mobile devices?
+Slade Spry very shortly
This is the important question way more power efficient way more cores I hope AMD laptops get Nvidia graphics cards
AFAIK the only Ryzen mobile laptop available is the Envy x360 which is also available with a i5-8250u - will you guys by chance happen to compare both the Ryzen and i5 versions directly?
Is there any PWM on FHD model?
For the raven ridge laptop, can you compared it head to head against kaby lake R laptop with discrete mx 150 gpu? Especially in performance and power consumption.
When I get a laptop with Kaby Lake-R plus MX 150 I'll do it. The first videos won't have that comparison though
Also, is there a way to measure wattage consumption of laptop or it only depend on the battery size and on time?
Could you guys tweak your audio recording settings a bit? For some reason this video feels a tad bit too bass-heavy. Maybe it's just Tim's voice.
Hello nice video man keep it up , btw i would like to point out a mistake @ 0:35 you have said that it's 8th generation kaby-lake but it's not it's 8th generation coffee-lake.
+4lph4 Re4PeR no this is Kaby Lake Refresh which is part of Intel's 8th Gen line. Confusing I know.
Hardware Unboxed oh sorry, i was confused because i have a i7 8700k cofee lake
can u show your gears making these videos?
coil whine?
Dat Inspiron tho. Just picked up the i5-8250 version and I'm loving it so far!
I think you should've shown the graphics score for the graphics test because the total score is skewed with the CPU physics test which obviously has more performance with 4 cores. The graphics performance really hasn't changed.
+O!Technology that was partially the point as I was talking about CPU helping out graphics workloads at times. In any case the GPU performance is slightly better
So shouldn't it be a 9370 with the 8th Gen processor? It says 9360 under the video.
Thank You !!
Lock Lock lock hold.......Start! This is the most exciting feature of the Toyota key dongle if anybody was wondering!
A 13" ultrabook is for portability and battery life. Nobody doing detailed image editing is going to use this machine anyway. Good review! Thanks!
Where can I get 2 RGB ram sticks of 4gb each??
Laganjeet Praharaj for laptops or desktops and what generation
If this thing had a mx150 I'd buy it today. It would be SUCH a good all around laptop
What a laptop.... love the design
I want this XPS so much :(
Great video. I (and I believe others as well) will appriciate timestamps so we can skip stuff like color accuracy.
Got mine just now FHD touch screen $749 @ MS store
ad78 thinking of getting one too, but worry about coil whine.. any problem with yours so far? Any coil whine?
Someone please buy that man a comb. :)
The devil is in the detail. Nice that Matlab was included here because that is pretty representative of what I use these things for.
I'm waiting for a 8th gen thinkpad, then I'll upgrade from my 6th gen razer blade stealth.
Finally Matlab gets included. The advantage of Tim having studied something that is being called engineering?
+Peter Jansen yep I've used Matlab a fair bit
Me too. Ever typed in "why" in the command window? If not, try it out. ;)
What field of engineering did you study? Electrical? Mechanical? Biomedical?
8th gen kabylake at like 0:35
What kind of diet are you on steve?
Is this laptop review or your image review, dude? We came here to see the laptop not your image there. No offence but keep in the mind for the next review
Good review, but I watched it at 1.5x speed.
Why not compare it with 7700HQ and 7300HQ?
Steve's looking a bit different. Must be the new hair cut.
A good haircut takes years off me mate.
why i7 8th gen is not priced same as the 7th ????
+Omar Shiha they want to clear out older stock hence the lower price
Hardware Unboxed ahhh now I understand :D
Still can't believe how long its taken Intel to get mobile quad cores to the mainstream - AMD was already releasing mobile quad cores as mainstream CPU back in 2010/11 (4 true cores not CMT).
Dabombinable Mi yeah with IPC from the Jurassic period!
Dabombinable Mi Wut? Doesn't i7 Mobile has been 4 core 8 threads for a long time?
Only i5 Mobile had been using 2 core 4 threads?
KevinMulia Oh dear me, you need to realise that there is far more to a processors performance than just core count. Its ok putting 4 cores or 8 cores but that doesnt automatically mean it's better or faster. AMD have always been a long way behind.
Each core has has an IPC (Instructions Per Clock) and generates heat under load. A processor can have such slow cores (Low IPC) that another processor with half as many cores can complete more than twice the instructions per clock cycle than the one with twice the cores, this makes the one with less cores technically the faster chip. AMD chips have always been pushed to compete, factory clocked to do more than they really should in order to close the performance gap on intel. This push has meant they have boosted core speed (default stock clocks) to compensate for their cores poor performance compared to Intel's, and in order to do this, requires more voltage/power/TDP and more power automatically results in more heat and less battery life!
Amds answer to Intel has always been that if they can't compete on a performance level, then they simply offer more of whats worse for the same money....a bit like Intel making a Ferrari, Amd can't so offer 4 Skodas for the same money, tune them to make them run faster than they really should do to try to close the performance gap so that it isnt as obvious and they can still remain in marketshare.
The heat caused by AMDs mobile chips has always caused issues with BGA integrated graphics on the motherboards, theyve created so much heat that nearby graphics chips (Nvidia etc) have overheated to the extent that their unleaded solder joints have melted and cooled so many times that its become brittle and broke away from the board....this results in no display on your laptop and AMD laptops were renowned for this issue (especially in HP laptops where their fan/heatsink/thermal displacement designs were poor).
Intel have had superior performing core/clocks and IPC over anything AMD for about a decade or more. Their true hyperthreading has also hurt Amd and they've been miles away!
The only thing Amd has done well in the mobile department has been to implement some of their own graphics tech into the same chip as the processing cores. Other than that, theyve been a million miles away and thats why an Amd laptop will typically cost far less than an intel one. The only other positives for Amd in the processor market is that theyve recently and finally released something half decent for the first time in a decade with their Ryzen chips...its still a year or 2 behind intel in terms of core performance/IPC and they're still having to to resort to adding more slower cores technique to compete, but its a big jump/improvement on their older IPC that the performance gap is now much, much smaller and so much so that it really does compete for once.
KevinMulia also, just to add that since Intel's 6th gen Skylake, some i5 processors have very much had 4 cores also, intel hyperthreading and IPC have been far superior to anything Amd has.
To put where AMD are now (with their best)...Intels latest Coffee Lake processors and their superior cores typically do more or the same performance with 6 cores compared to AMDs 8! They dont need to add cores however you can guess what Amds answer to this was cant you? Yeah thats right... glue 2x 8 cores together and make the chip the size of a motherboard itself and sell what is essentially 2x slower 8 cores as 1x 16 core chip....great if you multitask or need 16 cores for 16 instructions (even if the program you use was developed to even see/use those cores) but personally i prefer pure performance in speed over quantity of cores....
Eh, those quad cores had half the cache, so they weren't true quad cores.
Superb bro 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
nah. I want the Ryzen powered ROG 17" laptop.
But I like bezels :(
does he pin people?
Very good : )
I Love you guys
So ofc there is a 50% improvement as finally it has 4 cores no more 2 cores ; 10 years of 4 cores and on laptops intel is focking the ppl
Whent Intel so Market will get proper AMD 4 cores they stopped with the 2 cores ; how can ppl bay a i7 that is 2 cores ?
So if you look at office Laptop and note gaming for the last 2-4 years intel was selling 2 cores =)))
who's this
Steve lost a few pounds?
Or did he cut his hair?
A good haircut takes years off me mate.
Bro its 9370 not 9360
9370 isn't out yet. (1st quarter of next year) this is simply a refresh of the 9360. I know it's a little confusing with dell's deceptive marketing and rebranding. don't worry it took me a little while to figure it out as well.
Set not ready? Neither is your hair lol.
#timforpresident
Yo hardware unboxed dudes - if you ever want a part-timer who knows his shit, hit me up ;) ;) ;)
The real question is...
Do you know you're shit?
Or..
Do you know your shit?
Wait who is this guy¿ i like him tho :)
Santyago Bustamante wdym? This is whos always been on the channel. Tim from hardware unboxed
Young version of Steve
joshcogaming im kinda new and ive never seen him before, also i dont watch all the videos maybe i miss him in one of those. But i like his style very cool :).
I clicked on this video for STEVE :|
Your hair. What is that.
Tech Whale hot
Boring would much rather see AMD ryzen CPU in there
who s this guy wtf...
Atomic Dounut you must be new to the channel lmao.
heyb0o0o0o0o0o0osS actually im here for half a year and i saw this dude only once , i thought he was some kind of guest to channel or smth like that , can u explain why isnt Steve here xD
Atomic Dounut Steve is around, but Tim does some of the content relating to laptops for the channel, he's been off finishing his degree at University but has returned to do some more content for the channel. I'm sure Steve did a video not too long ago explaining what's going on with the channel.
heyb0o0o0o0o0o0osS ok thanks
Dude comb your hair.
Jaydaytoday Jayjay shame you can't appreciate stylistic messy hair
Shut your hole Wang Chung! :D
John so you're saying that he's a bunch of sticks?
Moron.
Hey Steve, why have you become Caucasian?