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If you went to an African village and asked the kids if they know Travis Kelce they'll say no, but if you ask them about Ronaldo or Messi, it's a whole different story.
He actually wrote in his article, "who's more popular: Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes or Manchester City striker Erling Haaland?"
That line alone should tell you all you need to know.
@@ebrown958 loool
Ronaldo and Messi is overkill. Adel Tarabt who played for QPR over a decade ago would be more recognised than Travis kelce
@@nigelnyoni8265 Let's gooooooooooooo haha
Ask a girl if they know swifties boyfriend ...
As an American, this is embarrassing, only us could be so arrogant to think the SB is bigger than the PL.
We are arrogant too. As an english guy I can say that american football produces a lot more than EPL and also the fact that most english teams don't even get to SF or QF in Champions League so the best league in the world can't beat portuguese teams, german teams, italian teams, etc
He lost the argument as soon as he used Taylor swift as a metric for success
It's a pinnacle of sport because of her xD
smh i had to cut the video short as soon as he said that,
@@wahlabiz😂😂😂
as non-American it's best US entertainment as always. Taylor is bigger than the NFL and might be bigger than the US. She's trying to emulate the 90's Michael Jordan. A woman !!! 😱
That’s the reason the nfl propped her up!
Liverpool vs Manchester United on a rainy Tuesday evening would attract more viewers globally than the super bowl. The only thing bigger in America is their ego's
Pretty sure around half a billion people watch this fixture alone. Correct me if I'm wrong
And their gut’s
@NickChemist-yf6oj 🤣
Who gets paid more though? The highest paid Premier league player is like a mid level pay in the NFL. Your so called biggest sport globally don't pay their players😂
@ghsense2626 it's not the "so called". It IS the biggest sport globally. As for salaries, football has a thing called jeopardy, ie promotion and relegation. If a club puts its entire squad on massive salaries, and they get relegated , the club loses a ton of revenue while still having to honour the players contracts. Leading to the possibility of the club going bust. This doesn't happen in the NFL as it's a closed shop with the same teams year after year, therefore, guaranteed tv and sponsorship revenue. There is also the financial fair play rules which limit the amount a club can spend to make the league more competitive. Meaning super rich owners are not allowed to put unlimited amounts of money into the club, like they can in the NFL
Well most Americans only recognise the US as being the only country in the world, so for them the NFL is bigger. For the rest of us sane people, of course its the Premier League and its not even a contest
I dont think many people outside the USA understand NFL rules and how its played, only americans do
shame you didnt actually watch the video
@@StandardsFC I did
@@ravd8082It wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t know the rules either.
@@ravd8082 im not a massive fan of it but its a pretty simple game really, you have 4 goes to make 10 yards. If you make 10 yards you get another 4 goes. If you dont make the 10 yards in the first 3 goes you usually kick it back on the 4th go or risk handing over the ball to the opposition at the same point on the field.
The Super Bowl has to have a concert on at halftime just to make it more interesting 😂
And don't forget about them great superbowl ads 😂
And they were interviewed instead of the players 😂 I don't even know which teams played but have seen Taylor swift was the star of the show 😂 great sport and not at all corrupt
And so the fans don't lose the plot, each play is shown in slow motion, super-slow motion, and reverse angle slow motion so the ex-players and coaches can tell you what just happened and why it's so great. Live games are a little better, you can go early and "tail gate"... eat and drink as much as you can beforehand (It dulls the pain of having to sit through the live experience). Bottom line... for each 60 minutes spent watching it... less that 5 minutes of action & 55 minutes of ______ (insert your own adjective)
And about 600 ads
100%. They need all the add-ons and hype to get people to watch it and stay watching.
Super Bowl viewers: 123.4 million... 2022 WC Final viewers: 1.5 billion...
The WC final will continue to be one of the biggest viewed sporting events.
The Rugby 🏉 World Cup has more viewership. The big game between South Africa and France at last year's WC had 481 million viewers.
The question was about the Premier League, not the World Cup Finals.
@@tipigi3570 correct. Some people seem to have misunderstood that. However, the PL still gets much more viewership
@@Sabundy Absolutely!
A Premier League game between Liverpool v Man Utd attracts a worldwide tv audience of 600 to 700 million viewers. The average tv audience per game for the 2023 NFL season was 18 million. The highest rated game of the 2023 NFL regular season had 41 million viewers. What is this guy talking about?!
Truth and at least 7 to 10 million in the USA on Sunday just before midday
These numbers are so wrong it's not even funny. Premier league is available in 600-700 million homes. That means that' how many households have access on their TV's or computers to watch the games. It's not how many people watch the games. The most viewed Man U vs Liverpool match had 4.8m viewers and was exclusive to Sky Sports.
@@Periodik 1.3 billion people world wide watched the game Liverpool vs ManU in 2001.
@@shazanali692you’re making up bold face lies.
Even in Africa during the Man Utd vs Liverpool game it’s pure carnage.
Generators on, TV blaring from every homes and I’m talking about Ghana/Nigeria that I know for a fact. Half of those 2 football crazy countries is still 200m people, and we’re not yet counting Egypt, Morocco, South Africa, Algeria, the entire Middle East and Asia continent that’s crazy in football.
EPL is global yo!
Are you sure about this? 4.8m could just be UK viewers as it was only exclusive to Sky Sports in UK and a few other countries. The rest of the world have different broadcasters. Also... despite having an air of superiority in your response, you have missed an 's' and added an apostrophe where it isn't needed (a common mistake - Initials and abbreviations don't use them). Glad I can help 😇 @@Periodik
I wouldn’t be surprised if Villa vs Utd had more views around the world than the Super Bowl yesterday.
Real madrid >> nfl+ epl
Literally insane claim. America has taken your empire and now it’s taken your dignity.
@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 Maybe 10 years ago...no one cares now
@@AM2K2 that’s why they have the best team in the World everyone dream and the best stadium in the World
@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073Manchester United have the biggest fan base in the world.
114 million fans vs 3 billion…. It’s not even an argument
now do the revenue and profit
@@marcelohendrix6139 compare the salary 😊
Now compare the marketing strategies and stoppage time with adverts.
There’s a reason why NFL sells the most entertainment/adverts over EPL during stoppage time. … because the game allows it to.
Now compare the salaries and caps.
Now compare how many professional football clubs compared to NFL clubs (hint it impacts revenue and profit)
Now compare the marketing ethics between each sport. (You’ll never see football selling broadcasting rights to the game to a children’s network to use subliminal messaging to hook kids).
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@@Taecoconut so basically the nfl has a better business model than the premier league. how is a league with less fans making more money
@@marcelohendrix6139 and also, it’s not a “better” business plan. It’s a more mercenary business plan that lacks ethics
“What a save by the keeper!
Corner to be taken…just after this quick commercial break!”
😂😂😂😂
Imagine that!
😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh😂😂😂😂
Yohh😂😂😂😂
If the premier league decided to have a 45 min half time full of advertisements and live performances then they would generate 1000 times more than the NFL considering the significantly larger audience watching the PL games
Its obviously not that simple ppl would stop watching. Ppl already are stopping bc of VAR and 2 min delays ruining the game. They will never be able to put more ads in a soccer game. Thats why their jerseys are getting more and more ads on them and the sidelines have doubled the size of the ads
The funny thing is... The Superbowl halftime show and advertisement segment is bigger than their actual sport
I agree that’s all I ever tune in for 😂
Apparently that show is a the pinnacle of sport along with Taylor swift 😂😂 well according to this guy 😂 I'm sorry to me it just seemed like his purpose was trolling
Tbf the match was great entertainment
@@grassrootsfootball225then let it stand alone. The world cup final and champions league final don't need a halftime show to make it interesting. Nuf said
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Why is this even a discussion who cares about the NFL, honestly?
Hundreds of millions of people?
Only when it's the superbowl that's on. Nobody cares about it any other time.
I swear they built up that stupid relationship with taylor swift and that other player more than the 2 teams involved 😂
Americans (so the world), obviously. Hence the reason to make absurd claims about how it's the greatest, biggest, EVER... he's just Making America Great Again... Eejit!
@@Cashews100 115 million isn't "hundreds of millions"
Football/Soccer , Rugby, Cricket Tennis, Golf boxing is all bigger than the NFL
Even Volleyball is bigger.
Hell....if you want to stick with American sports.... Basketball 🏀 is far and away more popular than the NFL globally. NFL I really a niche sport and specific to America. Basketball is actually an international sport.
I will never understand the way US teams move around. The Raiders moved 271 miles from LA to Las Vegas.
That’s like Liverpool FC moving to London.
Bizarre.
A player on the Barcelona bench is more well-known than Tom Brady😂😂😂
I would not even know 1 player on Barca team but I do know Tom Brady ... and I dont follow NFL at all
Does he have an airport terminal named after him?
@@cxv6367 Well you arent the masses are you mate
Who is tom Brady?
Ian brady is more well known than tom brady
Why do Americans think 1 country is the whole world 😂😂😂
Exactly,they have "The world series" and "The world championships" when it's literally just teams from america involved 🤣
because they're American
Hard to pay attention in schools when every time you hear a bang you have to hide under your desk
Arrogance stemmed from american exeptionalism which is the consequence of deeply rooted xenophobia and the notion of constantly repeted myth of”America is best country in the world”
Years ago the whole world wanted to be America and I think they picked up on that
Fun fact for everyone more people were at Wembley watching Plymouth vs Bolton in the EFL cup than the Super Bowl final so there is no debate.
We play baseball and basketball in the uk it's called rounders and netball.
As an American... That was embarrassing to watch. You are comparing Apples to Oranges ...
The fact it's called football when its played with the hands is embarrassing as well
True. Different sports, different leagues. Can't compare.
@@watermarginramsgate180 that’s because you don’t know how the word football came about.
@StylistecS so tell us how the word football was form then since you're sitting dictionary corner😅😅
@@divbrown2752 It is a family or umbrella of game played on foot. There are two different elements of football which are the carrying codes and the kicking codes. The Carrying codes include American Football, Canadian Football, Rugby League, and Rugby Union. Then you have the kicking code which is Association Football (called soccer in some parts of the nation), and Australian Rules Football (where handling is strictly limited).
All of the codes have things in common but most are different from each other. Association football is just simply the most popular of the codes. It's not my fault that I have to be your teacher from time to time ole chap.
Most American argument EVER. “ we are bigger and better”!
Usa - NFL
Rest of the world - PL
how is this even a debate ?
As a Brit who’s lived in Texas for over 20 years, the proper comparison to the Super Bowl would be the Champions League Final. Comparing 1 final game against a 38 game league structure is comparing apples to oranges.
The NFL season is only 4 months long (5 if you reach the Super Bowl) so the average NFL fan only gets to see their favorite team and players play 16-20 games a season. Compare that to the 60 plus games a team might play in the Premier League, La Liga, etc if they go all the way in domestic cup competitions and the Champions League, Europa League, etc plus any international tournaments that may then occur that summer. There is a hell of a lot more world football played through the course of a year than NFL.
And lastly, a vast majority of the viewing numbers for the Super Bowl are people that couldn’t care less about the actual sport but watch for the half time show and superbowl commercials. My own mother (from Liverpool) went to a Super Bowl party “to watch the commercials”. 😂
So yeah the Super Bowl is a hell of an annual spectacle but the actual sport itself is no where near as compelling (except for when the Dallas Cowboys self implode each and every season).
This Super Bowl was more about Taylor swift than anything else!
That's the only reason I saw highlights of it 😂😂
And Beyoncé’s advert for her new album 🤣🤣
no it was not get over it....tragic comment .....a good discussion doent need sad comments
@@michaelwallden7261 stop being a wokey
@@michaelwallden7261 There is no good discussion, only bad faith ignorant nonsense.
I am from India and me and my friends just love the PL. No one here knows about NFL. PL has worldwide audience
Very true mate, it won't be long before you have yanks coming to India telling you how much better MLB is than the IPL lol 😂
Exactly what im talking about mate. We here in Sweden barely know the nfl exists.
Don't you poop on the floor over in India?
@@patriotsholobreakers6308wanna watch ? Send yo mum
I 🧡💚 India.
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I dont even consider the SuperBowl event to be classed as sport, for me its always been more Entertainment.
The Super Bowl gets 115ish million viewers worldwide. Man United vs Liverpool has gotten up to 600 million worldwide...this man irritates me more than most.
Thank god it’s over for another year of the media trying to force us to watch it.
Try living next door in Canada... Two weeks of self promotion on an epic scale. Yesterday I could have spent 14-15 hours of NFL self-indulgent promotion... more $$$ does not equate to good sport. The NFL is more along the lines of sports entertainment... a hybrid Sport/WWF... complete with cheer leaders and big videotrons to encourage the fans to "Make Noise"
And players pushing their own head manager. Real class!!
Thank you 😂😂😂
it is so boring, just hour after hour of setpieces.. NFL is meant for nobrained zombies honestly
It takes 5 hours to watch 3 minutes of NFL. So many commercials. It's tough to take these days.
My favourite part was when Taylor Swift chucked the ball to Usher to score the winning touchdunk sponsored by agent orange juice, or was that last years soup bowl?
'the peak of sport' is a 5hr show filled with live music and adverts. they simply do not understand
The Carabao Cup is bigger than the NFL in all honesty,
Well it isn't and I hate NFL
Bad take
No
The league 1 play off final is bigger than the super fish bowl
AFCON probably had greater viewing figures than the Superbowl this year. Many Americans turned off the NFL because of the Kapernick protests.
This clip just sums up america. Deluded 😂
As well as full of hubris based on said delusions 😂😂😂
Who gets paid more though? The highest paid Premier league player is like a mid level pay in the NFL. Your so called biggest sport globally don't pay their players😂
@@ghsense2626and your so called biggest sporting events has more ad time than the actual sport
@NOVA-of3ix your so called sport has VAR which is a farce, might aswell cash in on ADs when you're deliberating simple things that's should take a few seconds 😂
@@ghsense2626 Probably because Football ⚽ isn't as over commercialized as NFL. The NFL is like 30 mins of playing with 2 hours of ads. That's a big reason why they can pay so much. But that is not a model the rest of the world wants to adopt thanks. We actually like watching sports for the game.....not ads and music concerts. And if NFL players are paid more.......who cares? It's still a niche sport that has failed to become mainstream anywhere else. Football by comparison is global and players are global superstars. No one except Americans knows NFL players or cares. And of course Football is about playing against the best the world has and winning the world cup to call oneself the world champion. What other countries can the US play against or test itself against? You have to be next level delusional to compare NFL to Football ⚽. The one is a niche sport the vast majority of the world doesn't care about and the other is the single most popular sport on the planet. And I'm not even a football ⚽ fan. But thems the facts.
Haha this has to be the most pointless debate I've seen in a while.
I’ve been watching Super Bowl trailers for yrs..not once have I watched the Actual super bowl
Bare in mind there is no relegation or promotion in/out of the NFL, it is a fixed league, so investors have confidence to put money in with little risk.
Yeah - throw in the fact they relocate teams I.e San Diego Chargers are now the LA Chargers and The LA Raiders are now Las Vegas Raiders. Imagine Manchester Utd moving to Birmingham and being Brummy Utd.
The big EPL clubs also have no fear of relegation ... not exactly a level playing field
@@cxv6367 City might if they are found guilty of just a couple of their FFP issues. Chelsea are no longer one of the big boys - at least there is competition for top 4 now.
Take away the Financial Aspect of the NFL and its not even as big worldwide as Golf or Cricket (And I actually like NFL). If the Premier League isnt such a big pull then why do so many US consortiums want a piece of the Pie? How many Clubs are US owned now? Plus England (not UK) isnt even the size of Florida so its not going to match the US Finances, yet on a worldwide sporting scale the NFL isnt even in the same stratosphere as the PL.
@@rossg7483Oakland raiders ** LA raiders was the 90s
And the league is rigged the owners agree to pass the title around for commercial reasons.
NFL IS 70 percent ads and commercials so using revenue as a matrix is weird
NFL cannot be put in the same sentence as Football 😂
The Nfl is just another commercial showcase.. 80% commercials and 20% actual sports played...
What a flawed/ arrogant argument! If it’s”World Series “ because players from DR or Japan playing in it. We have a World Cup every 3 days in PL. players from Brazil, Argentina, Nigeria, Japan, South Korea, Egypt, etc are playinging in Primer league and championship teams!
mate they were calling it the World Series when it was only white American men playing in it. Only years later did they try to justify the name by pointing to how many non-Americans are playing MLB.
Well with baseball you do only have a few leagues with the only real competitive leagues being US and Japan. The reason it is called the World Series is it is the best teams in the world. Your point would be right if in baseball we had massive leagues in almost every nation across the world like we see with European football. They are also two very distinct sports so trying to make them the same to take down his argument is silly.
Oh sho you're saying we should call the UEFA Champions League as the World Champions League because the best teams are playing in Europe? Silly. Just admit that Americans just love to lie in their marketing. Yes, they're the best teams in the World, but it's not a Global Baseball Club competition.
@@jeromeclemente3672No I am not saying the Champions league should be called the World Champions League. I am simple pointing out that unlike Soccer/Football, Baseball does not have many competitive leagues the main one is MLB. When you look at other leagues like Japan or DR there is a massive competition drop off. My entire point is that we are comparing apples to oranges. One sport has dozens of leagues therefore it would be foolish to say any one of them represent the world. Whereas the other sport has very few leagues and only one of them is representative of the best talents in the sport. Every up and coming Baseball player wants to play in the MLB, whereas with football you have the Prem, Laliga, Serie A. Bundesliga, and Ligue 1. All having similar levels of competition. You are right it is not a Global Baseball Club Competition because there is not even Global baseball.The reason you are getting confused is you are assuming that baseball has the same market/reach as European football has and you are criticizing it using the standard set by European Football which is that every country partakes in your sport. Also the MLB had nothing to do with the supposed contents of this video so even bringing it up in the first place was irrelevant to the discussion at hand. And finally about Americans lying in marketing. Every country does that and this is not an example of that. If that’s deceptive marketing then so is the Champions League.
@@Ivoryenperor9but it's a perfectly valid point to take down his argument. Calling it the "world series" is a joke. There are no other countries teams playing. Now....yes. there are no competitive leagues outside of the US and Japan......but that's also because very few countries actually play baseball or care about it at all. Baseball is not even a top ten team sport in terms of global popularity. His point is utterly ridiculous. If having some Dominican and Japanese players justifies calling it a "world series" then pretty much most European football ⚽ leagues are weekly World cups given the wide range of players from Europe , South America, Africa, Asia etc...The point of it is that it exhibits the mentality and attitude that the US thinks it is THE world. And that its sports are comparable to the popular global sports most of the world plays. Bare in mind this is a video where an American is trying to argue that the NFL (a sport basically played by one country) is somehow superior to the PL. A globally watched and followed League.
This guy is just a typical American. You need Taylor Swift and Usher to make it bigger. Take away all the adverts every 5 minutes and celebrity endorsement, and what would you have left?! 😂
An actual normal game that most true fans would enjoy. Most Americans who live the sport hate the spectacle the Super Bowl has become.
@@StylistecSnot really
@@anthonyuccello8450 most of us who want to watch the game cares little for commercials and especially a halftime show.
All marketing and no soul. Plus NFL is scripted!
If there is no celebrity or half time show, your sports will go down the drain. That's the only thing people around the world watch. No one cares about the game.
The superbowl is not the peak of sport. Its pop stars and advertising.
Super Bowl viewers: 180million.
FA Cup final viewers: 500million.
Bearing in mind, that hasn't even been our biggest domestic competition for a very long time. American rugby isn't anywhere near the same level.
This guy is deluded if he thinks the Super Bowl is in any way comparable to the World Cup final. There is absolutely no comparison
I honestly couldn't sit through listening to that nonsense. Did he actually claim the super bowl was comparable to the FIFA World Cup?? Because if he did.....it really doesn't matter what else he says since that's so beyond deluded that it automatically means nobody can take that man seriously
Most people watch super bowl to see who is singing
The Super Bowl is the peak of sport because Taylor Swift performed at half time? Christ. 😂
Measuring 'best' as who has the most revenue is the most American argument ever 😂
Only someone who has never left American would say NFL is bigger than Premier League.
On this guy analogy, that money makes NFL bigger than Premier League. So if the Saudi throws 30billion per year on they league with only 100million people mostly in Saudi watching their one biggest event in a year. Does that make it the biggest league in the world? Even bigger than a league about 200 million people world wide watch every week?
I present to you, basically every American
No, because they won't create real revenue. NFL teams make hundreds of millions of dollars a season. All of them. Most teams in England are in debt. That's the difference.
@@DannyXXXXX theres 300 million plus living in the states compared to 60 million in England. Of course its going to generate more revenue. Stupid argument. Plus, how the league and pay are structured forces team into debt. There are no "salary caps". Not to mention Premier League teams dont trade players they buy them. These are all factors into why teams are in debt.
@@DannyXXXXX Money is the only metric the NFL wins, and that's the ENTIRE NFL vs the Premier League. The guys argument was the Super Bowl was a bigger event than anything the Premier League puts up, which is an even worse argument.
The Super Bowl alone isn't even bigger than any London derby
The question isn't whether its bigger, its whether its better.
The JPT Final between Plymouth and Bolton had more fans in attendance than the Super Bowl did, case closed.
But tbh the Vegas stadium they just played in has 65k… that’s an argument that’s lazy.
Because the Sofi stadium only holds 70k? What point are you trying to make?
@@alexlanemusic global audience week in week out is higher, you wanted me to compound further why the Premier League is miles clear?
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@@gtingaming716 no the premier league IS. But you can’t use the stadium thing as an argument that’s all.
"You have Tailor Swift, you have the halftime show, it is the peak of sport."
Lol He used Taylor Swift to boost his argument😂😂😂😂
This American fella had only ‘financial generated’ metric, but we’re told money isn’t everything. Simon is spot on.
Who gets paid more though? The highest paid Premier league player is like a mid level pay in the NFL. Your so called biggest sport globally don't pay their players😂
Theres a reason we dont hear this debate all the time on sports radio here and in the UK.. bc its stupid to compare and figure out a fair metric. U cant put anymore ads in a soccer game but football, the way its played, is easier to exploit with ads. Also no other continent plays american football so.. it already is crazy how many intl viewers it gets considering they’ve never even thrown a football in their lives. But everyone plays soccer in their lives even in the US.. its the more global sport. American football will never surpass soccer in any other countries. And they already have rugby
What that guy forgets is that the NFL is the whole sport. If the premier league was the whole sport, the only game in town its revenue would easily triple the NFL
This is what they tried to do with the super league in Europe, such as the big 6 in the UK, they wanted them to join up with European clubs, say you have teams like man and man city, this region will have supporters who support there respected local teams such as bury, oldham,.or salford but then have there area team like man u, this happens in the USA where you have folks who support there college teams and then have there area team,.in that case it might be the nearest teams such as titans, cowboys or Houston.
I saw the title and started laughing cuz i thought the the guy who was featured was a comedian🤣
NFL Fans outside of US = 0
EPL Fans outside of England = 700 million and counting
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Lol
NFL = America
PREMIER LEAGUE = Worldwide
Not even a comparison.
Yes premier league is watched globally and "soccer" like they call it is played in different countries worldwide that have thier own respective leagues compared to the NFL only exists and played in USA
Football.
But to a true American, America is the world
@@deaddogtony1677 WTF can't he say Premier as in Prem-ier. Why does he insist on Pre_mier league audacious pr*ck
Nah. NFL = Taylor Swift
Have the NFL teams pay for their own stadiums and I’d like to see how big those revenues would be.
Great convo
If we butchered the Premier League with the amount of ads the NFL has there'd be riots. Difference is we aren't sheep and would oppose such a proposition.
Soccer teams have ads on their shirt
@@hrs1414 Amazing concept that, isn't it? Means we don't have to sit through 20 ad breaks a game.
Using that logic so does my Calvin Kline underpants@@hrs1414
If American fans had to accept a world in which 5 clubs make all the money and nobody else has a chance theyd riot and quit watching. So maybe think harder about what makes a person a sheep and what makes someone savvy.
NFL fans of a club know that no matter how bad they are, they’re one draft pick away from becoming a champion, and the worse they are the better their odds of getting that guy. European football fans either cheer for one of a handful of clubs or make peace with the fact their club will never win anything unless an oil sheik buys their team. And you think the American is the rube?
@@hrs1414
Yeah but the game doesn’t stop because of it. The continuity and the fluidity of the game is important.
You watch 90 minutes play in 90 minutes, whereas you get 11 minutes of play in 3 hours in the NFL.
Playoffs are not necessary in the EPL. It's called the League Cup and FA Cup. A playoff would render the EPL season irrelevant.
But you need a final, a big day occasion where you get all your investor billionaire buddies together and scam everyone out of money
Now if the NFL had 10-20 rival leagues, and only the best from the previous season, from each league, could compete in a playoff type tournament, then we'll talk. Just to make it a little more interesting, rather than single game knock out format (home field advantage being the whole purpose of the regular season) maybe a group stage where they play each other home and away... and then a home & away knockout to see who advances towards the "Super Bowl" final. ...Nah, too complicated, that could never work.
Thats what's killing football & the competitiveness of the game
The league structure actually proves who is the best.😊
@@anthonymcken6050 absolutely!
The only people that watch American football in this country are middle classed, middle aged men. The type of person that goes to retail parks on Sunday, listens to ' drive time' radio on Heart or Magic, loves Take That, Robbie Williams and Ed Sheeran. And who's other sporting highlight of the year is the British Grand Prix.
Don’t they make more money because they have an ad break every 5 mins
A country with 300 million has a sport that is mildly popular worldwide.
The premier league is the most popular league in the world in a sport that is huge in almost every country. From a country with 50 million.
And it’s not comparable to the World Cup.
Super Bowl = 120 million viewers.
World Cup final = 1.5 billion viewers.
How is that a comparison?
You are so fixated with views and don’t factor in the revenue. The NFL makes 3-4 times every year than what the World Cup generates. The PL teams can only survive if you are being bought by oil or Chinese money.
@@lorenzo4819Views equal popularity, sustainability and relevance. No one cares about the NFL in Morocco , Italy or Brazil. Outside the shores of the US, NFL is dead.
thats false, the tv deals alone push the Prem to 7-10bill @@lorenzo4819
@@lorenzo4819 Thats such a delusional clutching at straws take to have though. For one thing, in the NFL there is no relegation (where teams are dropped from one league to the league below due to poor performance) therefore there is little-no risk of losing investment if massive companies or billionaires invest in said NFL teams, compared to PL teams where like 1/5 teams who get relegated go financially insolvent over the next few years. In the NFL you're virtually guaranteed to make money, and if your club has a poor performance guess what, you get the best pick of the next draft; so you're actually rewarded for failure in the NFL. Also lets just factor in the commercial breaks seemingly every 5 minutes in an NFL game, the constant blabber from pundits, and the half time show in the Superbowl; how much money do you think would be made then? I should hope the NFL has more revenue when the commercials feel incessant and never ending with an average of 12 minutes of the ball being in play for a match which is hilarious in itself.
@@lorenzo4819So you take revenue over supports /fans ? It’s a sport . Do you not understand . Super Bowl 150million. World Cup 1.2 billion. Says it all .
the NFL is one big advert with breaks of sport in between
It’s ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to overtake football in Europe. It will NEVER happen not even close.
It's difficult to estimate Premier League global viewing figures because there are people in remote villages in Africa and Asia watching Premier League matches.
What is clear is that the World Cup final gets comfortably 4x more viewers than the Super Bowl. His logic also kind of falls apart when you acknowledge that the USA has 275 million more people living in it than England
Imagine being dropped on your head so savagely that you believe what he just said… poor chap… and then to go on national radio to say what he said as well… incredible scenes.
agree with simon on the competitions being called world champs when they are only played here
A one off "super play off" does not tell you who the best side is. It's just a one off game. To find out who really is the best you need multiple games over a longer period of time i.e a Season. Winning over a season tests lots of other qualities that don't apply to a one off game and is a stiffer test.
You do realise that the Super Bowl is the end of the season??? 32 teams have to play through a season to qualify for the playoffs
When we talk about GREATEST league...we are talking about viewership/engagement and not money.
Just Simons face when he said give me an example 😂
Champions League last 16 is a playoff of sorts what a prick
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When my American cousin asks me about the super bowl I told him that my super bowl is the UCL final.
Not every debate needs to be had. Never do this to your audience again, TalkSports
Best part of the superbowl is the half time show and the commercials ......lol
It's the worst part. But without it no one would watch that shitty sport lol.
Simon as an American please know we’re not all like that 😂😂😂 I love Arsenal and the Prem
😂😂😂i think people knew that mate...no worries.
Just the vocal yanks....makes it easy to troll them😂😂😂
I liked how to prove the superbowl was so good he mentioned taylor swift just being present was one of the highlights.... thats how dull the sport is.
Of all the countries I've visited and lived in worldwide, the only place that people watched the NFL was in the US. This man is delusional. He also doesn't know how to let people make a point.
Being an insomniac and having woken up in the middle of the night and with all the hype about the Super Bowl, I switched my TV on to watch.thinking I have a long night ahead of me. And promptly fell asleep - there is more time with people doing nothing than actual playing time. So thanks guys, your Super Bowl may be bigger by any metric you wish to dream up but I just cannot deal with the boredom. So you can keep it. I should record a game sometime as an antidote to insomnia.
I've fallen asleep every time I've tried to watch or listen to the Superb Owl.
Since the winners of the superbowl are called world champions despite hardly any countries playing it no wonder the Yanks think it’s bigger.
The winners of the Super Bowl is called Super Bowl champions
No, they are constantly referred to as World Champions by American media... send KC to Winnipeg in late January to play the Grey Cup Champions (using CFL rules and our bigger balls) and you might be able to claim, North American Champions. Until that happens, or a successful NFL expansion occurs ANYWHERE else in the world... you can claim nothing more than NFL playoff champions. Even the "Super" is just marketing.
@@I.B.Rox1962 the media does but not the team and actual fans. And Canadian Football and American football isn’t the same however the quality of America football teams are above the CFL. Btw the Super Bowl got its name after a super ball toy. Has zero to do with marketing.
@@I.B.Rox1962 Which is what I meant.
@@StylistecSThey are called the 'world champions'.
‘Nothing you have is comparable to the superbowl, there’s a 2 week build up, we have Taylor swift…’ what an argument 😂😂😂
Premier league don't need a taylor swift to get noticed
Americans are in their own little bubble aren't they 😂😂
Over 5 hrs to watch a game with 1 hr of gameplay hand egg will never b bigger than real football
Hand egg 😂👌👌
Yeah, delusions are sad.
Didn't Afcon have more viewers than the superbowl?
Americans need to stop embarrassing themselves on the global stage.
The only argument for the nfl is that they have much higher revenues
That is largely due to America being a large rich country
Outside of the US it doesn’t have much of a fan base. But because America is a rich country, it can be financially successful off of only the US.
And nothing to do with corruption, tax washing etc
Correct and it's because it's the whole sport. Look at how many professional football teams there are on the world. Imagine closing every professional league (and ending international football) and just having the top 32 teams in the world playing in the premier league. The revenues would be 10 times the NFL
It’s more down to the commercials. If the EPL stopped every 5 minutes for 1 minute of commercials the revenue generated would put the NFL to shame.
Thankfully, unlike Americans, we Brits would never stand for that.
The length of actual playing time in between commercials can be directly correlated to the attentions spans of your average citizen.
Plus, the franchises have fewer clubs in the league, so they get a bigger pool of money. No transfers fees to worry about, and also, the average career time is 3 years, so they don't have to worry about players squeezing more money out of the club
The EPL generates more revenue than the NFL... That has been since 2012. And EPL is not the only football tournament in England. They have FA cup, Carabo cup, League cup etc... That's just one country and one league. We have the spanish league, Italian league, German league etc.. To say that NFL is bigger than football by any metric (including finance) is arrogance...
USA is about 300mil - 400mil population... England is roughly 50-60million. Yet that England sport is bigger.. Now that's facts!.
Loved Martins opinion on this 👍
I wish he’d stop talking and let others have a say
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61,000 people was at the super bowl last night while arsenal and manu brought out 82,000 people for just a friendly match. That's 20,000 people more and the game to place in America 😂😂😂😂
Check out the ticket prices.....NFL stadiums trump EPL stadiums in every aspect. NCAA college stadiums trump EPL stadiums in every aspect. You think America is in a bubble? Maybe experience something outside of the UK. You think attendance is the metric to use? Lol
@@marvinlawrencemoney doesn’t mean anything. Everything is more expensive in America. Americans are the only people who watch it
I watch mostly premier league. But the NBA even passed it globally recently because China loves basketball.
The biggest sporting events (finals are) the world cup final, Champions league final, Euro final and then at 4th place is the superbowl its not even an argument
It’s hard to compare the two being totally different games. For instance there are commercial breaks every 2-3 mins in American sports whereas European sports are more free flowing with less breaks.
Pretty sad tbh if you as me if one of your highlights of a sport events are the adverts. Don’t remember any of the World Cup final ads but I remember the game 😂
More people worldwide watch the premier league than NFL except 1 day a year. There's your answer.
Cricket is actually the second most watched sport in the world, although that's predominantly because of a huge population like India
I dont think many people outside the USA understand NFL rules and how its played, only americans do
@@ravd8082It’s not a hard game to pick up after a few watches.
The problem is the commercials, Europeans couldn’t handle it. There’s no way could we ever take a sport seriously that has commercials every couple of minutes.
We prefer 95% game play, 5% commercials, not the other way around.
@ravd8082 the rules are not that complicated but as mentioned, it's slow. The whole game has 1 hour of play time, but usually lasts 3 hours +. So at best 33% of watching it is actually playing time, 2 thirds is breaks in the action. That's why i think unless you've grown up around it in USA, its probably not appealing to the majority of the world.
"1 hour of play time"... surely you jest!
From snap of ball to end of play, more like 12-15 minutes.of actual play time (google it). Remove special teams, each player gets more like 7 minutes of playing time (assuming they are not being rotated in-and-out for specific situations). Most games take 3+ hours to complete, so now we're down around 10% of the whole game time (< 5% per player, ignoring those that don't get on the field). They spend more time putting on the ridiculous equipment than actually playing.
@@jimsim8736yep and the commercials are always McDonald's or pizza. Like FFS
Nobody, I repeat, nobody outside of the USA cares about American football.
Its funny how much you can love a sometimes insufferable personality when they're arguing for the side you agree with.
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Off his trolley. Average prem game is bigger than the superbowl
Surprised he didn’t talk about the amount of commercials that help with the nfl money. They usually have 80 to 100 commercials which takes roughly 45/50 of the “game time”
That accounts for a huge part of the NFL money.
They have commercial while the game is being played
@@anthonyuccello8450 no, they have commercials during the many breaks in the play. But it’s still 45-50 mins of time taking up for ads time
The fact is to millions of people, the Super Bowl is a concert with a game happening along side it
the only reason I know about the Superbowl is because the news reports in my country talk about the winner in a report of less than 1 minute, or because of the singers and the movie trailers they feature (if they still do this thing), never heard about the game itself, much less any NFL game.