Football Finance Expert INSISTS The Premier League Have Come Out Of The Everton Case LOOKING GOOD! 😲
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- Everton's 10-point deduction has been reduced to six following a successful appeal. talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan discuss alongside Stefan Borson.
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I’m not an Everton fan, what sporting advantage have Everton gained by spending a fortune on a new ground? You do realise that with the fact that other massive clubs have got away Scott free, having already built their stadiums and squads is really what pisses fans off, and that’s not just Everton and Forest fans.
Finally, someone who gets it!
@@jayevans819 I’m sure there are many many thousands more get it.
If there’s no sporting advantage to building a new stadium, then why build one? Just stay at goodisen. A new stadium will give them larger support at home games, more revenue to further invest in the team. I know it’s all theoretical but the intent of a new stadium is surely to gain sporting advantage in some form?
Has he ever got anything right? See no mention of his mates at City
It was interest rates that got us Everton through they were not included
That guy is talking nonsense if he believes the PL have come out of it well. It showed there was no proper system in place. The punishment was made up on the spot. They look like amateurs. Richard Masters needs to be removed.
a staggering assertion from him, they've had to resort to using the rules from the supposedly inferior efl because they simply dont have their own and are making it up as they go along, and that constitutes coming out of it well? He is on drugs.
For how long have we been saying that ror goodness sake.
No proper system? There is still a points deduction in place.
You can appeal decisions to the Court. This is how the UK Legal System is built and the Premier League is no different. Amateur.
The system was agreed between the PL clubs. The PL rules create the independent commission and the independent commission decides the sanction. It’s not that complicated unless you really don’t want to understand.
Is that Martin o Neil with a filter?
It couldn’t have been because they let him finish 😂
When you order Martin Freeman from wish.
David guest b4 surgery 😅
😂😂😂
Everton building their 3rd ground in the city, losing sponsorship due to war , cost of materials going up due to war , 2nd lowest spenders for last 5yrs but their not mitagating circumstances, oh well
So true
They broke the rules they knew the rules. No mitigation
The greatest rivalry in Talksport history is between Simon Jordan and anyone who represents or publicly supports Labour. Burnham, Rotherham, even Gary Neville.
It’s so transparent. 😂
He certainly has irrational hate of a few groups.
This guy knows about as much as Simon Jordan, and it ain’t much
You have got to remember, some people just like the sound of their own voice.
Simon nodding his head pretending to understand what’s going on.
Simons a top waffler
Previous knowledge? He owned a premier league team for a season about 20 years ago when there was no such thing as ffp
Always makes me laugh ripping Simon Jordan for owning a club 20 years ago when these man have never owned a pair of trainers 😉
@@tevildo45nope
If you buy a business you can spend as much money as you wish to make that business a success, why is it so different when you buy a football club which today is a big business? Get rid of the corrupt premier league
Only it wasn't a success. They spent hundreds of millions to fight multiple relegations. Shitty little club lol
Fairness and stability of the game its quite simple concept.... what do u think happens if Tesco were to go head to head with the independent corner shop owner.... they cant compete and eventually will be squeezed out of the market and go bust.
@@thorntonovskithat’s real life Tesco literally do compete head to head with corner shops, thousands of independent greengrocers, butchers etc went under when supermarkets took over. I really don’t see why any club shouldn’t be able to live the dream if they have a rich owner, FFP is just about keeping the big clubs big and the rest at bay. The PL would have been very boring if Blackburn, Chelsea, Man City etc hadn’t been able to spend big.
@@andrewdeacon8315 because you're putting other clubs out of business you just said it yourself, as i did... tesco do it etc... you want other clubs in the pyramid to try and thrive compete or go bust? The gulf is already vast as it is.
Maybe they should just scrap all these rules
So we can be a spunking ground for oil states and foreign governments? Naa, Fuk that.
😂😂😂😂 prem looking good next joke
Simon's point, starting @13:25, is a good one: "pointing the gun at the Premier League is a ridiculous observation because the Premier League is upholding the rights of the other 19 clubs...it's the independent comission. [Pointing the gun at the PL] is sabre rattling from feebleminded people who don't understand the principles of what they are talking about, and it gets them currency...they won't read the summation or the appeal because it won't concur with their world view."
The PL want to show their control and their governance before the independent regulator comes in…..Everton are a test case to set a precedent
@@TheGolfer29 it's a bit irrelevant because the regulator is coming in whether the PL put their balls on the table or not
I'd love to know who this supposed football finance expert supports...
He's said before man citeh
Premier league has come out of it well 😂. Worse part of it with Everton imo was when they referred them to the independent commission and then the premier league planted the seed by coming out in the media before the hearing recommending Everton get a 12 point deduction. Then you’ve got Man City who have 115 charges dating back 15 years ago and still one charge hasn’t been heard yet. If it was fair across the board with clear guidelines and punishments there would be no excuses for any club but it’s quite obvious it’s not fair across the league as premier league has there favourites 🤑
the thing is 7 of the 115 breaches are exactly the same as Everton's breach so why not just push them 7 through. This season. deducted them the 24 points this season then people will accept it.
Come out of what do you want football to be in court room whats going on
Everton, people's club! 💙
This football finance " expert" wasn't he at city when they got 115 charges ?
no he explained on a previous appearance that his involvement at city was under shinawatra and he left when the UAE bought them
Forest DIDNT fail the £105m. They failed the £61m because they were under different rules to every other team in the premier league
Not quite true, Bournemouth only had £61M as well and Fulham only had £83M but the principal you are concerned about is the same. Teams coming into the Premier league should be able to spend up to a £79M loss in their first year (as opposed to 35M) if they are not bouncing back and up to 57M loss if they have bounced back first time so that their 3 year loss is 105M the same as all the other clubs in the league. Otherwise the dice are heavily loaded against the promoted clubs in their first seasons. Frankly the system is anything but fair and nothing to do with ensuring the financial stability of the clubs. Forests situation is particularly dumb as to meet the rules they are supposed to have happily given away almost £20M to sell Brennan Johnson early enough to meet a deadline that was arbitrarily and ignorantly placed in the middle of a transfer window. How is that helping their financial stability…….
@@scifimonkey3 Fair point well made worth pointing out that Bournemouth were in their second season of relegation parachute payments following their relegation in 20/21, therefore having a significant chunk of their losses covered. A luxury and advantage which Forest didn't have having been out of the top tier for 25 years. Another example of how skewed and unfair the system is. But I agree with your suggested solution. Let's also not forget that Bournemouth were found guilty of breaching EFL Financial Fair Play max losses in the year they got promoted, and got away with just a £5 million fine, which they even managed to negotiate down. That's where it gets even more frustrating that the same rules have not applied to some pretty serious breaches in the past.
By going down this route the PL are making a rod for their own backs with City. If Forest and Everton are potentially facing relegated as a consequence of their minor breaches spanning just one single charge each, then if even half of the 100 odd charges against City are upheld then I don't see how they can't be dealt a Juventus-style punishment in 2006 and face automatic relegation and start the season in a Championship with a points deduction. Anything less would be seen as a fudge and inconsistent. It would be completely unprecedented in English Football.
It isn't only meant to help their financial stability, it's meant to ensure fair play. Forest hanging on to their best player for half a season when they were over what they could spend and got a decent offer for him is not ensuring fair play.@@scifimonkey3
@@scifimonkey3 so they were under different rules, to everyone bar Luton then 😂
That guy looks like Martin Freeman if you ordered him from wish.
failed to notice two of their 9 reasons for punishing Everton are legal incorrect. Everton got half the points deducted that the league wanted. In all measurable reasoning the league have been buggered into oblivion by Everton's lawyer. They tried to act tough to avoid an independent regulation and ended up proving it's is absolutely necessary.
What aggravating circumstances of our transfer business? We started preseason at the City Ground with 5 players, we HAD to buy players to just put 11 out on the pitch! 🤦🏻♂️
Martin O'Neill is looking shook🤓
Is the point of FFP to help & stop clubs from going under? So why take so many points off Everton, which would only see them relegated
Because Everton broke the rules. They were actually 300m over the rules and negotiated figures down with the PL and when warned by the PL the club bought more players. When do you start blaming Everton for their issues?
@@wilsonathleticscoaching we have one of the lowest net spends over the past 5 years? Explain how FFP makes it a level playing field. We overspent but a lot of that was stadium related
@@MrLukem99 that I have to explain things says your not across what your club is doing and you don’t care. Your owner was relying on a dodgy oligarch who was barred from entering the UK. His companies were injecting 10’s of millions of dollars into the cub, your club. Your clubs whole business model was based on him and when he was banned, the walls fell down around the club and why your in FFP issues. Typical fan who doesn’t care where the money comes from and then wants to cry wolf when you are found out. Maybe target the individuals who created this issue.
@@wilsonathleticscoaching oh you mean moshiri was meant to predict a war? Dont be ridiculous. Nothing wrong with relying on usmanov. Are you meant to have someone else in the background just in case a war breaks out. Nothing wrong with what we were doing, perfectly legal & the only way to compete with the likes of city
@@MrLukem99 you just confirmed your ignorance, the person was called osmanov, he was banned from entering the uk, he had his nephew sitting on your board and your owner is a front for a corrupt oligarch, go back to sleep.
Why are LEICESTER CITY offering to pay the EFL £3.5m for their breach of FFP breaches. Surely a points deduction should have happened, NOT A VOLUNTARY FINE.
Do you mean the hard done by squeaky clean leicester city?!
So they get another 6 point deduction for the next breach meaning a total of 12? Or will they get punished more as its a repeat offence like in a court of law?
2 points, it’s an additional year being in breach. Can’t give another 6 points because you’re double dipping
@MinisterManDan its a rolling 3 year period so its not double dipping
@@ninjashrimpgaming2657 nah this was already explained by a nerd on television. You could only go higher than 2 if you hit them with some kind of additional penalty for repeat offense. It’s max 2 for the breach itself.
@MinisterManDan sky sports are reporting it differently to that, i suppose only time will tell but thanks for the info
@@MinisterManDan you literally didn't listen to Stefan who explained why the defence of double jeopardy is nonsense.
Did the premier league hire this spokesperson to do cleanup? Poor effort.
I am LFC fan but I dont want any club to be treated unfairly especially our brothers and sisters across Stanley Park who deserve better. Other clubs have done worse but received absolutely no sanctions. Monetary sanctions are not sanctions because more money than sanction is made when violating P&S. CL>$100M, PL>$50M, cups>$45M. But give $50M fine they still gain >$150M. I believe this may have something to do with our gaffer leaving.
sure Liverfool have spent billions , and they they were going bankrupt only for that fool Henry !!!!!
This isn't a monetary sanction, so what are you talking about?
You're a Liverpool fan who uses dollar signs instead of pound signs? Your club has massively underspent because of your profiteering Yank owners.
With regards to ffp rules if there wasnt a punishment in place at the start of the season then there shouldnt have been a punishment? The points deduction has been made up and by who.
These punishments are too arbitrary especially with the emotions of football involved. They need to do it season by season and say for each £1m you go over PNS you lose one point. It stops all the arguing.
That would mean going 10 million over has a harsher punishment than going into administration.
Season by season makes it a lot more strict and much harder for clubs to stick to.
@@kieranhardy581 In general I just meant it should be a set deduction to stop arguments. By all means make it for every £3m. By what I said originally though, 10 points would have still been for a £45m loss
Simon and this so-called Financial expert fail to articulate what the Spoting Advantage Everton gained is? There was no clear sporting Advantage. And the report also could not clarify this.
Everyone knew it was going to happen, so why the big shock??
Coz it was 10 points
Spot on Simon from 13 mins
But the charges that City are being punished for were under HIM.
You'll Forgive me if I don't pay attention to someone who's as bad as moshiri when it comes to using a calculator
No they weren't you spanner😂😂
You ruined palace Jordan they nearly went bust
If the sanction can never be more than 9 points ( i.e. worse than going into administration), then Newcastle, Man City et al, can spend whatever they want and only be hit with max 8 points sanction.
You would think that. The fact that it's took the Premier League so many years to even say that Man City have breached has actually made the situation worse for the Premier League as questions will be raised to what they do about everything the club has achieved already if they had been financially cheating. It's a mess and it does massively questions of the integrity of the Premier League even more.
How can the commission use the EFL as a reference point? Premier League & EFL are 2 separate entities…..? I’m confused
Because they run the other leagues in england and have experience docking points and sanctions for rule breakers. Efl have more experience and understanding than the prem do on this
@@thorntonovski thank you, however that’s like McDonalds going to KFC and using their Governance/Policies….
@@TheGolfer29 yeah it was the closest example and only referenced not copied
This fella definitely works for the Premier League 😮
Without doubt he does, him and several journalists who are their mouthpiece, get rolled out to defend them , the prem are clueless and only looking out for the Sly/media 6 , the other 14 just to make numbers up, probs running scared of Newcastle or Villa ruining the script
6 points is no punishment at all promoted teams may as well spend as much as they want and just take the point deduction if it's going to be less than 6 like forest
An appointed premier league board didn’t critique the premier league shocker. Here is an Everton appointed independent panel. They disagree ffs
Man united spend recklessly every year (£120 mill) after player trading….hmmmm
Didn't Man City bin him off?
It’s not unprecedented, Sheffield Wednesday got a 12 point fine a few years ago. The rot set in and despite getting 6 points given back, the damage was done and we ended up in League One.
Nobody cared about us then, so why should we care about Everton now 🤷🏼♂️
Soon 6 will be reduced to 3 and 3 be reduced to 0. 😂
Everton is a great club but they were never the victims. it's like if a person gets caught speeding and they're sentenced to death. There is no death penalty in UK law, especially for speeding or driving offences. they can only complain on the severity of the sentence. The PL isn't corrupt either. Everton breached rules THEY signed as a PL club and thus helped form!
This same expert claimed Everton had no case to justify an appeal. Then when the appeal panel uphold some of Everton's case, the guy insists that they `got off on a technicality', so to speak. Complete lack of humility on his part.
If the PL reasoning was made transparent it would quell all the noise . Its not so its dodgy . Simple
talks absolute wham this fella
Why because you ent clever enough to understand him that it
It’s hilarious reading the comments after a 18 minute explanation re Everton, and fans do not understand… maybe it’s burner accounts of Winter etc I thought the explanations were fantastic.
Why are they hiring the best KC when this is a sports rule issue, NOT a legal matter?……utterly preposterous,!!
The league's rule are still subject to English law
It’s still not clear. Why can’t this be more transparent. £x = y pts. Surely, a simple mathematical formula could be applied, especially as the “recklessness” (as it’s being referred to in the article) is quantifiable. For example, if a club breaches FFP at the lower limit that equates to being penalised one win, 3pts. The upper limit is 2 wins, 6pts. Something like this is transparent and would give clubs a good reason to “tow the line” and fans the ability to fully understand the intended consequences. Deductions and appeals, like the ones we have just seen, make no bloomin sense and only play to the fact that there are NO clearly defined and understood rules. How can that be in a sport which is wholly based on clearly defined and understood rules?
What the hell is going on with Man City? when will they be held accountable?
Im not a fan of points deductions because i think it makes playing games pointless however if thats what there going to do if we are talking about sporting advantages lets look at man city they should be relegated if there going down points deductions route
Brilliant Simon unusual electric lips Simon Jordan quite getting educated 😂😂😂😂😂
Other clubs are not building a multi million pound stadium
No some clubs got thiers off the council didn’t they
@billyedwards6941 ye but I'm talking about when he says that most clubs didn't hit the 15 million
Today's FFP don't work for club going bankrupt, need to go back to the old FFP rule that really helped the poor clubs avoiding greedy owners.
Everton's breaches are not sporting advantages, they ended up going over because of certain reasons..1= lost £200m in sponsorship naming rights due to the sanction on Usmanov because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine..2= Gilfy Sigurdson was worth £20m on the financial books (players worth) so cos of his unfounded allegation for 2 years Everton had to pay his wages whilst not playing and when he proved his innocence he was deemed worthless on the financial books...3= Interest payments on loans for building Stadium which were not counted on Everton's books until midway through the building of the Stadium the Premier League changed the rules so the interest payment amounts are now set against the £105m your allowed to lose...4=Everton had mislead the Premier League with its accounts on purpose to dupe the Premier League into not going over by said amount which the Independent Appeal has cleared them off...5=Everton over the last 3 years are the 3rd lowest spenders on transfers...6=Everton have opened their accounts and books to the Premier League for the last 3 year's when they openly told the Premier League they were worried that they were coming close to breaching FFP...7=Everton have had to have permission for every transfer in and out they have made for more than £5m so had to get approval for each transfer by the Premier League...8=Everton have sold £140m worth of players in the last 2half years...9=Everton have spent less than £45m on incoming players over the last 3 years...Those are the facts to all the haters who think Everton have basically just taken the piss and deserved to have a bigger points deduction than for going into Administration and becoming Bankrupt and losing 100's of people's livelihoods and jobs + all the money you owe when you go into Administration get voided and not paid..And the penalty for that is 9 points GO FIGURE all you smartarses
Thank God for talksport..proper journalism this.. imagine gary Neville and carraghare understanding and explaining this..great stuff as always jim and Simon 🍻
Is that you Simon
neville wouldd have called him a capitalist pig and bought another hotel, carragher would have just spat on him
Pull it out 😛
You spelt clickbait, low brow journalism wrong
proper journalism 🤣🤣🤣?? they hire Darren Bent and Gabby Agbonglahor. They are trying to protect the sky 6 because it gives them relevancy.
Waiting for... talkSPORT to address the fact that Everton is the 3rd less net spender on transfers the last five years so NO the club havent got a sporting advantage, the whole argument is totally bs.
The fact that the club is building a new stadium to be more competitive in the future ain't even a topic, this is the main reason for this. The whole case is based on the envy that Everton does get a proper stadium,fit for modern times and the fright from the so called big clubs that Everton will close the gap.
The best thing about Everton getting a lower sentence is seeing Simon Jordan almost in tears. I bet he will cry and bite his pillow if Everton survives yet again.
Spot on mate. You need to get down to the Court immediately and fight for this club. They need your genius.
Read the commission's report. Spending on the stadium is allowed. Everton tried to say that some of the spending on players was actually on the stadium. Their own accounts showed otherwise.
It's why this didn't come up in the appeal, because they admitted it.
An independent commission chosen and paid for by the premiership doesn’t criticise the premiership??? Small wonder. It’s corrupt to the core. This is payback for Evertons stance against the so called top 6’s breakaway into European super league.
He got asked why the premier league pushed for 12 points and didn't answer the question! He garbled a load of nonsense about the prem and Masters coming out clean...Defo still working for the premier league, trying to gloss over the prems corruption.
What about LIverfool, they nearly went bankrupt not so many years ago and got bailed out by Henry.
Council version of Martin O'Neil
I’ll believe FFP works properly when City and Chelsea get their supposed penalties… we all now they’re getting off with fines and that there’s corruption at the highest level in the game, the soul of the sport was sold decades ago
When you have a KC who knows his stuff, he will work the system to avoid complicating a further outcome. You have to source a route that any commission cannot corrupt!
Jordan can look as smug as he likes, but the arguments could never be made in the appeal due to legal bias, nuances and egos!
The whole process and implementation of investigation/punishment by the EPL against Everton has been an Insidious, Stochastic Psyop operation to ensure the club suffered prolonged periods of uncertainty.
A quick process would have allowed the club mentality to focus on the job entirely! A slow process is a slow burner on the human psyche! A slow process creates doubt, insecurity and fear among human beings!
So they can passively dictate a human being's moral, physical and mental performance and hope for the best. I still need to pass the 4-minute mark!
Four minutes into the interview, Stefan was a jibber-jabbering idiot after Whites' question!
The EPL could not be criticised in the appeal decision if they wished to make the apparent narrative that the "4-point deduction" was applicable! The punishment results so far replicated the media reporting before the final decision!
5.55 There is always an easy answer: if you do not know, say so; too many times across all Global Social injustices, the rhetoric of it is "complicated" is all too common. It is also a default defence by those who understand the corruption and are either too stupid or fearful to state the truth!
7.00 The EPL is prosecuting on behalf of the other 92 clubs! What a 5h!t3 show, Jordan. Is that correct? Potentially, that position can destroy English football!
Edit, apologies, Jordan stated the "19" clubs!
Why did the scabby 666 get off with a self-imposed fine that could/may destroy grassroots football? There is no logic or consistency! Other than little brown Ching Ching!
That is quite a statement: the EFL is English football's "Sick man"! Jordan lad, you are becoming obnoxious for clickbait!
The EFL issue is the Forest issue!
10.00 Is astounding! It's the quietest January transfer ever; wait till the Summer window! This guy is stating facts, however...!
The rules will change later this year!
11.00 Stefan again likes the Jibber Jabber narrative! I always loved Fools and Horses, and Trigger could have effectively explained the EPL case!
We did hear from supporters of other clubs!
13.21 Stefan socially insults Mr Chong, calling him "Chong" as if he were playing poker, consistently blinking and wringing his hands. It is an apparent nervous behaviour. It would be a tell!
17.00 "Authority"! What a keyword that has become socially manipulated!
Do the rules change later in 2024? The media predicted the punishments before the official announcement, which sounds like a kangaroo court!
Who does Stefan support out of interest?
City
I disagree with Stefan and don't think he should be on the show talking absolute nonsense. I would hate to think he has an agenda and his intentions are not neutral.
Of course you're an expert on litigation and know more than an experienced lawyer with 20 years experience
@@dylanb.117 I'am an expert in communication and know when someone is biased.
this all stinks of a kid being expelled from school and Daddy with big pockets and a flash Lawyer steps in and magically it all disappears
Stefan is a man city advisor, of course his opinion needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.
So answer this why arnt top 6 in this they are but the not so why are clubs like forest who belong in prem have a go an get punished why arnt top 6 getting done because the rest will be
Rules are rules but your changing them so why
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Everton did not follow the rules that they agreed with other 19 clubs up front . What is making everyone jump up and down is other Clubs doing the same and the PL not bringing them to account
The point was, the money that was spent was from stadium interest, as apposed to player costs. Sure they broke the spending rules, but it was categorically clear that there was no sporting advantage
@@metmad100 , in the end of the day I am still not sure how City have not been taken to task and Everton have
Because Everton broke the rules.
Everton broke the rules they need to relegate them
Wheel out the guy who Man City binned off again and again.... He should get a job with the Premier League. They're well matched.
He knows more about these matters than you, as much as it hurts he has been proven right time and time again. He was not binned off by any one either. Lashing out because you don't like what he saying
@@dylanb.117 Well, let's hope for your sake he's not right about Man City...
What’s the point of having ffp and rules if they can change them by morning and bitching
The amount of money should reflect in the number of points deduction and then multiplied by the level of deceit if any, to hide it.
Careful what you wish for. Arteta's spent a fortune, without the UCL money to fund it.
Dont worry Arsenal coming back to help out Chelsea. This time 20-30M for any player of their choice, take it or leave it lol.
Now Man City wont get the punishment they deserve
Not really.
Sunderland AFC 👑.
Win win for the narrative that the PL is following protocol but Everton r still going down when they get a 2md sanction 🤣
Living rent free in your head UTFT 😂
What do the FA want a premier league made up of teams like Watford and Reading?
Clubs that get relegated this season from the prem are going to be well positioned to sue the prem league aswell as everton & potentially Forrest.
No one will sue Everton or Forest...
Get a grip! Leicester and Leeds have already tried and failed.
You might want to do some research as Leicester, Leeds & Burnley agreed to drop the lawsuit as it could put Everton out of existence and instead are negotiating out of court on a settlement. So the exact same thing will happen next season.
You can't sue individual clubs, it is in the rules
They haven't failed. They're negotiating a settlement. Meaning Everton will have to pay Leeds, Burnley and Leicester significant money. @@kevingill648
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssss anyone seen Andy Burnham.
Simon is so far wide of the mark. The other clubs only played Everton the same number of games as they played Man City, Chelsea and Newcastle. Simon does not understand how football works.
looking good ? maybe get it right the first time not after an appeal they look even dumber that they went back on what they said imo
Who is this premier league shill? Absolute waffle. He’s definitely being compensated by the PL. This guy has no professional integrity whatsoever. There is no chance no other club have ever breached PSR before!! Not having that one bit!
I listened for 20 minutes and still trying to figure out what he said. It seemed like nothing.
Lashing out because you don't like what he is saying
@@dylanb.117 one can simply disagree dosen't mean someone is lashing out
Bottom line is no one forced Everton to waste vast sums of money on a bunch of highly paid deadbeats or a new stadium. They knew what the FFP rules were and failed to work within the parameters. They’ve admitted fault but disagree with the punishment. Get over it and move on
What about the sponsorship they lost because of the Ukraine war? The money they lost on Gilfy Sig who was accused of crimes he was never charged with. In the 3 years this covers who were the players they signed?
Come back when you know the facts mate
Do your research, then make a sensible comment.
Who owns talk sport the same as sky Rupert Murdock. The premier league is biased just look at the referees and the farce that is var the only league without automatic offsides. Keep the top 6 on top and stop Everton having the same say as them.
Get rid of ffp,and let teams that could grow do so,up the toon
Pair of back slappers
Don't clubs get9 points for going into administration? It happened to palace years ago and Everton get 10 points for overspending fair enough new stadium on the way a bit naive but ffin hell the fa ain't fit for purpose end of let the fans vote for the benefit of their clubs
Love hearing from Stefan, someone who actually reads and understands the subject he's talking about. The opposite of Everton fans.
Spin doctor
Stefan Borson is definitely a virgin
Man Cheaty should be relegated.
Boo hoo poor Everton 😭 They breached financial Fair play but since Man City haven’t been punished Everton don’t deserve a punishment 😢😢
Andy Burnham, a future leader of the Labour/ momentum party, is still not happy with not having the HS2, even after the costs going up by 100% !
😂😂😂😂😂 he is clueless
If forest get a smaller deduction for buying players when we hardly breached building a stadium I'm done with football. Corrupt!
Stadium spending has nothing to do with ffp.
What everton did was originally to say some of the money they spent on players was spent on the stadium. Their own accounts showed that they were lying. They even admitted it.
Read the report not twitter of fan sites.
@@lilbaz8073 stadiums have never counted towards psr. The prem changed the rules without a vote and now they do count towards losses on psr. Its nothing to do with players, we haven't hardly signed anyone for 3 years, just constantly sold all our best players.
@@lilbaz8073 if you actually read the report you'll know that we where cleared of lying actually.
@@davewalker3873 it is about players. Amortisation and wages. Both of which last over their entire contract and count towards psr.
Hence why chelsea gave players 8 year contracts to spread the cost of the transfer fees over 8 years.
Their wages were at 95% of turnover. Add the amortisation costs they were over.
They even admitted to it. So stop calling foul.
They voted for the rules. They knew the rules. They broke the rules. They got punished.
@@davewalker3873 this was evertons argument.
£2.2m interest charged by Everton to Everton Stadium Development Ltd (a subsidiary of the club responsible for expenditure on the construction of a new stadium) in relation to an intercompany loan which was designed to “pass on” interest charges payable by the club to the club’s commercial lenders. Everton’s position was that any interest attributable to expenditure on the stadium should be excluded from its calculations and argued that accounting standards meant that the commercial loans would have been repaid or never drawn down had it not been for stadium redevelopment and, as such, could be capitalised as they were directly attributable to a qualifying asset (the new stadium) and therefore excluded from calculations.
The prems argument.
the interest payments could not be excluded as Everton had not in fact incurred any interest cost in relation to the stadium and interest on an inter-company charge did not impact earnings before tax and therefore could not be excluded from PSR calculation; and
Jim white at the end saying 'understood' really did he. Because to me that was all pure ballocks and i still dont understand it or how you can constantly meddle and impact league positions without kicking a ball. Utter garbage but thats the norm for talksport
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