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"What's that on the floor. Is it a straw? Cling to it". I nearly died. Simon is the G.O.A.T
Hahaha....I almost missed it.
" If he didn't have any oil, he'd be President of nothing " Yep that one got me :-) :-)
The fact that the superbowl needs a half time show to get people to watch it says everything you need know about how entertaining the NFL is
Half time show is for the non-NFL/American football fans to peak their interest in the sport. Namely amongst women who wanna see a Beyoncé or Lady Gaga perform but couldn’t care less about the game.
Well said !
Cos it’s shite
Because music never improved any event ever right! Why would anyone want to watch the best musical talents in the world?
@@NPRENT23 because I tune in to the Champions League final to watch football, not some singer or band singing and dancing. I would've bought a ticket to their concerts if I wanted that.
Simon is on point. There is no way the super bowl is a bigger show than the UCL final. Not today, not tomorrow or ever. Champions league will always be a bigger show.
The last thing they need is musical acts etc. I watch NFL. Regular season games are better. Superbowl ads and half time takes WAY too long. At Superbowl half time I just roll a joint and flick through the channels until the 2nd half.
But to call PSG Harlem Globetrotters is wrong too. Globetrotters is a sports circus style show purely for entertainment. If PSG begin using trampolines and ladders to "win" fixed matches then OK you can call them that. Would Simon dare call Man City Harlem Globetrotters? They're cheating just as much as PSG.
I think the super bowl is a bigger spectacle than the CL as I’ve often found CL finals boring as hell. Especially when they involve clubs from the same country. It gets far more viewers because it’s the most popular sport in the world, so you can’t go by viewers alone. A halftime show wouldn’t shake things up too much.
@@eliwoods5583 I couldn't name a legendary super bowl, I can name a couple of legendary champions league finals.
The total cost of broadcasting the Champions League final is $1.6 billion - around about half of the amount for the Super Bowl accumulated at around $3 billion. Audience wise CL is bigger. Money wise, NFL and Superbowl is on a different dimension all together. NFL generates the same revenue as Champions League, Premier League, La Liga and Bundesliga combined.
depends what sport you follow
Tactical analysis from the studio at half time beats any other half time show.
100%
no it really doesn’t 🤣
@@eddyr5017 American moment
So long as it’s intelligent analysis, absolutely spot on yes. The only time that the analysis isn’t worth watching is when there’s a pundit who doesn’t have a clue.
@@eddyr5017 genuinely curious how u ppl find the half time shows even remotely entertaining lol
“Shoving hotdogs down their throats dawn til dusk” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I watch the Champions League final for the game. During half time I’ll have a piss and make a drink ready for it to restart. Unless my team is involved and wins I switch off when the final whistle blows. If I have to sit there for an extra hour or so I probably wouldn’t bother unless I had a horse in the race.
A half time show , get Simon and Trevor in the ring for ten minutes. That would be worth the money for the ticket alone.
With Jim White as the referee 😂
Simon and Martin Keown would sell more I reckon
Trevor and Simon would be far more entertaining 🤣
“Get on with your manufactured club” 🤣 Simon Jordan should have his own TV show!
He does now lol
Simon ur the G.O.A.T!!!
Champions League final doesn't NEED anymore additional entertainment. THE MATCH ITSELF IS THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT TO WATCH!
"If there wasn't any oil he would be the president of nothing" classic
Potentially one of Simon's greatest moments. Jim is talking shite
Jim is talking nonsense most of the time ... the guy doesn’t have a functioning brain
They're a team & they are brilliant 😅
@@davidfebreeze428 I think that's his job tbf lol
@@allyofficial4547 nah man you don’t have to intentionally behave like an idiot ... I’d enjoy the show more if there were actually two people talking sense in the studio
He challenges Simon to give Simon a platform to make his points. It's all tongue and cheek FFS just look at Jim's expressions throughout, he clearly doesn't believe the UCL should be Americanised
When you hear the numbers, the whole debate just falls apart 🤣
The guy from PSG even said at the same time that this years super bowl had 112m global viewers and the last CL final had over 700m so yeah as Simon alluded to, what exactly is his point 😂
The point is that the total cost of broadcasting the Champions League final is $1.6 billion and Super Bowl is $3 billion.
The point is 112 million viewers are generating twice as much money than 700 million. That is the point.
@@JW-be8wf cost of broadcasting? You mean revenue from it?
@@JW-be8wf bro we get that part, Americans are best at generating money even at the cost of the game. Football is the peoples game, theres a balance between money making and maintaining the integrity of the game. Football is watched across the whole world and people love it as it is. We dont want ad breaks, we dont want half time nonsense
@@RedDevil_Joe Its broadcasting deals. TV networks pay stupid money for NFL broadcast and they make it up in revenue from ads and the 20 pre-game shows before the game followed by 20 post game shows. Superbowl is the whole weekend here in the US. For a lot of them its the whole damn week.
As someone who watched both footballs, the nexus of entertainment and sport is best exemplified by Superbowl. There is no other sporting/entertainment spectacle on the planet like Superbowl. And for the 100+ million people watching, 1/3rd of the are likely watching for the half time show.
That, given the coverage football gets, it should even be more than 700m
I prefer football then a circus ,,yanks can keep it over there
If you want to see a circus, just wait until one soccer player breathes on another and all of the sudden it's a crime scene 😄 meanwhile in American football we have players playing with broken bones
If they made it into a 3-hour event with a song and dance show before, during and after the game, I'd record it and watch it later, fast-forwarding through the Las Vegas bits.
Ffs leave football alone and DO NOT AMERICANISE IT🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
"And it's the 1st corner of the match here.....and it's brought to you, sponsored by McDonald's"🤦♂️🤦♂️
People watch the superbowl for the ads and the halftime show.... people watch the champions league final for the football. We watch the CL final to see the 2 best teams in Europe battle for the trophy, that's it.
You're an absolute clown if you think people don't watch the Super Bowl for the game. 🤦♂️
@@stephenmason9527 I think he means a lot of people are more interested in that than the game itself, not everyone, but it’s still a decent percentage.
Whereas EVERYONE who watches the champions league final watches it for the football only.
The champions league final isn't the 2 best teams in Europe and never is
The champions league final is generally the 2 teams who got the best draws and the most luck
If I asked you right now who is better, Liverpool or Villarreal? you would say Liverpool (unless you're deluded)
But if somehow Villarreal can knock Liverpool out and make the final does that make them better than Liverpool?
No it doesn't
@@SL0409 not always but it's still the biggest club game in Europe
Also knockout tournaments can also be an indication of how good a team is, being able to prevail by any means necessary is also a trait of a good team
Simon right again here. Keep all this Americanised, hand egg crap out!
Honest as allways, thats why Simon is the People's Champ 👏
The Super Bowl halftime show usually lasts between 20 and 30 minutes - twice as long as a normal NFL game.
This is one of my favourite segments from the show after listening for 3 years. Hilarious from both sides well done
Silly, tacky idea. Only people who would benefit from a half-time song and dance at half time during a CL final is half of the United dressing room. And they aren't going to appear in any finals for a while. However, they could pilot the idea for the Conference League Final
United living rent free in scouse heads since 1999
" Get on with your manufactured club" ROFL... Savaged
I'll be honest- The one time I watched the Super Bowl. I was bored out of my mind. So many breaks in play. 20 mins of actual sport over 3 hours.
As if European football hasn’t been Americanised enough
I know they're gonna ruin it just give it five years
Yea you can't cry now florentino Perez is the only one who can defeat these and save football but u think the qataris don't wanna make everything softer watch and see I m real Madrid will always be fan owned team
@Danny Tallmage Americanized? how was 1992 champions league revamp as you call it Americanized? If that was the case we'd have fatties carrying guns scoffing on hotdogs and weak beer, commercials every second and a silly halftime show, as long as Americans are out of association football the better it will be, yanks have no passion your sports are derived by British sports anyways you play a world series which only you win, easy to come 1st when nobody else is trying. Watching yanks at a footie game not knowing how to celebrate or have a sing-song like the rest of the worlds football culture does make me giggle though, scratching their thick heads trying to be like the rest of us. Stay out of football yank go play baseball 🔔 end
Literally the best part of the day these two!
Got a sad life you mate, seriously, try going for a walk in the woods! In fact, no that wont do anything for you, you are obviously a lost soul, go and play chicken on the motorway instead!
LIverpool vs United and El Clasico games in the regular league season can often get even more global viewers than the CL final
El Clasico (Real Madrid vs Barcelona) viewing figures worldwide 680 million spread over 180 nations.
@@darrellpowell6042 yeah, I think these days Liverpool vs United can actually get even more, over 700m. I think I saw that the game at anfield in December 2018 or 2019 got an estimated over 900m
Listening to Roy and chums at half time is all the entertainment I need thank you very much
I'm South African and have zero intention to watch super bowl, I'm cool with football and it's format
We dont need any superbowl half time we are more than happy juz to watch the most beautiful game in the world........
If my team are 1-0 down in the CL final against another English club and then Dojo cat and taylor swift come on and start doing tiktok dance songs I’m turning it off
Absolutely loved this!
I just love these guys
Love These Two.
'If there wasn't any oil, he wouldn't be President of anything' 😂😂 golden from SJ
Simon is basically right … one off the reasons the super bowl is so huge (as it is but not a patch on cl final) both inside America and outside is 1… it’s as popular in yank culture (even not including the halftime show) as the fa cup final was in English culture was pre 92/premier league /multi tv channels was. …2 it’s the only Huge sports final in America sports in the sense off the best team on the day takes it all… as the other 3 traditional big four us team sports basketball baseball and ice hockey all play best off 7 games series and each other’s stadiums … and even if they are tied 3 games each and head into winners take all game 7 it’s still not at a neutral site and it’s a home vs away team .… 3 …yes the super bowl show is huge and the only point sports and music really cross over but as good as it is necessitates a halftime interval that is longer (maybe twice as long? Nfl super fans will know) as ever single other nfl game full stop. I for one don’t want a halftime interval a minute longer then every single other game played in the same season and finally 4… if we really went for it like the super bowl does it will only be a matter off time until both “shows” will be poorer for the tit for tat competition and comparison for music talent … the absolute most I’ll go for is a local group in general area off the final who is world famous maybe go into the centre circle and play 2 songs for the crowd … or much better play BEFORE the game … but even that would annoy me if you want a gig … go to a festival and/or concert … 5…… in this current age if we were ever graced with another musical god with say the talent off a prince or Michael Jackson … nobody would really watch … but would instead be filming with their smartphones …so I really believe in the long run football is better off without halftime shows … best to say them for World Cup and euros opening ceremonies before 1st tournament matches so only 1 every two years 👍
Great lets have the president of a club that never won the cup suggest how we should change the final.
Simon on point with his take.
The sport of Football is entertainment, it doesn't need all this half-time entertainment rubbish to prop it up.
If the NFL needs a halftime show to make it a more entertaining watch then good for it, but this is football, the greatest game on Earth.
You wanna make it a bigger event - make it free to watch on all TV channels and streaming services. You get more people tuning in, more opportunity for Ad revenue etc.
spot on!
I love this😂😂
Jim, the reason why the super bowl needs a half time show spectacle is because the actual sporting event is drab. Superbowl is a concert + commercial opportunity first, sporting spectacle second. The super bowl only seems big because America can promote it through their media outlets. Like saying they are world champions for American Football or Baseball...
Go anywhere in the world (Africa, Asia, South America, etc.), they will talk about the CL final. Ask them about the superbowl, they will talk about the half-time show.
As an american all i can say is ugh, i fell in love with football because its nothing like the soulless, business first ‘franchise’ model of american sports. Every time i hear about an american ownership trying to enter the premier league i get a sinking feeling. Americans care about two things, themselves and money, you do not want to get into bed with them.
🙌🏼
Well said.
Big up Simon! Wouldn’t be surprised if this is on Laporta’s and Perez’s new super league draw up
The 2021 Champions league final had 700M viewers worldwide, the Super Bowl barely over 100M, it doesn’t have to “feel” bigger to be bigger Mr Khelaifi
No, it's ligue 1 who feel smaller for him, Champions league is bigger everythime
big European football fan here in the states. the only way to watch American football is DVR ,watch it later & zip thru the ads .. because it is unwatchable brutal 3.5 hours of non-stop commercials
100m people aren’t watch the SuperSalad. 39m watch it in the US, perhaps 10m world wide. The rest are skewed. If a tv in an airport/large screen billboard shows the SB and 100k people walk past. That adds to the tally. Lol
Owner of PSG chatting about what should happen at half-time during the final of the Champions League... They should concentrate on getting to one first! 😂😂
Tuchel took them to one clown
90 plus percent of the Super Bowl audience is in North America, the CL clubs these days invariably have a huge global following. No contest unless the NFL can massively increase its non US and Canadian audience. They’d probably need a London franchise to even think about competing with the UCL Final in the long run to increase interest.
Yeah but the % of NFL fans globally who watch the superbowl is MUCH larger than % of Football fans globally who watch the UCL final. How many billions of people watch football globally, only 500mill watch the UCL final? Maybe 400-500 million NFL fans globally yet 100mill watch the superbowl..
So heres how we in north america treat the superbowl. Its pretty much a holiday for a whole week, all of the major media networks and sports radio fly into the host city and make a big spectacle of the festivities around the big game, we hype it up. Comparable to boca vs river plate, real vs barca. The game itself isnt much....i understand where this psg guy is getting at. The champions leage final needs a week long hype train! Im all for it!
2:46
This man is a legend.
Can’t imagine this happening
100% right, Simon.
Intelligent football fans don’t need half time tinsel. We’ll be discussing how many more goals Liverpool is going to score in the 2nd half.
Yes, Simon, the Paris SG guy IS an idiot. And so is Jim.
Simon spot on as per
You forgot to put CLASH in capital letters.
Yours sincerely, Sky Sports.
Noone wants a half time show I'm just waiting for football at halftime I don't want no show delaying that next thing they'll be spamming us with ads every throw in 😂😂
I have a cabbage in the fridge. Useful as a replacement host
I haven't watched a Superbowl halftime show since The Who I think. I always just go get more alcohol during them and talk about the game till it starts back.
I cant believe Simon has to work with this.
Hes go to speak to him like a kid to get a simple point across.
Pair of fuckin idiots, simon is a fake just like jim!
Jim supporting the American model might just be a crime 😂
Agreed the CL should find a way to be even bigger then already is but the Superbowl may attract 80k people in physical attendance compared to CL attendance
The only reason the Superbowl went up 16% because they signed 4 superstar musicians Kendrick Lamar is questionable because of his music but ayy go otherwise attendance would be different also Superbowl style in CL final will not catch on for Europe
SJ. "What's that on the floor?"
"Cling too it?"
Simon is on a different level....
He could buy and sell all of them?
Despite not showing much international growth, American Football generates a ton of revenue, so the idea is worth exploring.
But as a football fan, I still think, maybe naively so, that there is still something pure about the sport that might die if we follow in the footsteps of American sports
US sport is all about ads hence the breaks in the various sports to enable "telly selly time". The danger is some bright spark decides to change football into 4 quarters rather than 2 halves. Don't fix it if it's not broken..
Totally and fully support Simon ,American culture what do they know about soccer. They still call it football.
Whats that on the floor🤣🤣
100% right here Simon.
I don’t often agree with Simon but he was spot on there. Jim didn’t have an argument or a leg to stand on. UCL is far, far bigger in every metric than the “Super Bowel”. Financials, viewership, prestige, product, you name it, the UCL comes out ahead. If you want to go to a concert, go to a concert, don’t go to the Champions League final. Or, sure, go to the Super Bowel for the half time show… I guess it is the only part worth watching.
Played madden on Ps once when I went to the states when I was 14. 10seconds in game stops every 10seconds rinse and repeat
To good Simon absolutely correct 👌
South Americans watch the CL Final, that's a lot of soccer loving viewers.
Football is more universal so you going to have more viewers so I do agree it champion league final should be more excited than the regular champions league matches
If there wasn’t any oil, he’d be the president of nothing 😆
7:52 Jim you could be in the front...SIMON THE G.O.A.T!!!! JIM NEGATIVE I.Q AS ALWAYS...
Would be good half time show defo
What’s crazy even in the US we had more eyes watch the Champions League final on CBS than the last three Super Bowls that were on NBC, FOX and CBS. Super Bowl isn’t all that honestly.
According to this thing called Google, The 2021 Champions League final was watched by 700 million people versus 112 million who watched the 2022 Super Bowl ( 96 million in 2021 ). Anyone who watched the Super Bowl and read between the lines would know that the majority of the 112 million was in the US. The so-called global audience of the Super Bowl was made up of US service men and women watching from military bases in Germany, etc. Whenever the Super Bowl broadcast panned overseas to show their so-called "global audience" it was always their troops in foreign countries unlike the Champions League, World Cup and even Premier League where you get people watching live from Europe, Asia, Africa and the America's at crazy local times. I remember watching weekday Champions League games at 3am in Thailand, Philippines and Hong Kong at 24 hour bars and I was not the only crazy at that time in the bar watching.
Next we'll have a 3 HR pregame show like the nfl.
Imagine being 3-0 down at half time to your biggest rival in the champions league final then just bieber rocks up singing baby
Bring back the pipe band marching round Hampden at half time. Nobody watched that either. They were all away for a p1sh. 🤣
Jim ‘Yankee’ White. Simon tore him a new one. Why are we OBSESSED with Americanising everything. We do everything sport related better with more authenticity.
"If it weren't for the oil he wouldn't be anything." True words for these people who believe their opinions are something special.
The only reason the super bowl figures went up so much is because they had Dre and Co. You get Dre, Kendrick, Em, 50 cent, Snoop all on stage together and most of the world will tune in
Most of the world??? Hardly mate, hardly!🤨🤨🤨
Hahahaha Simon being trolled like mad 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jim lines em up Simon knocks em down...
The only entertainment I want before kick off and at half time is a cold pint.
How is a pint entertainment??? Sounds like you had 2 too many already! Keep off the pints they are bad for you!!!
To be fair, I love a hot dog. All the trimmings. Oh yes…
The thing with the Super Bowl is it isn’t just an NFL game, it’s all about American excess.
America like to have all things involved with their sport, not just the sport itself.
Good banter. Jim put up a reasonable fight but was ultimately schooled by Simon as always.
I like keeping it pure football, but it's not marketed or presented like a World Cup Final. It's easy to ignore if you're not invested.
Simons right, we dont need to americanise everything
I thought I watched the champions league for football. Maybe they should do a music festival then halfway through let has football match I'm sure all the people that went to festival would be really looking forward to the football 😂
White and Jordan are brilliant. Best show on Talksport
When i think of the Super Bowl its only the halftime show i think about.Easy to forget theres even a game on.Weird.
I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to look at total numbers given everybody knows football is a bigger global sport than American football is so it’s obvious that it’d have more viewers.. if you’re comparing numbers it should be a percentage of those into the sports that watch them.. I’m pretty sure the Super Bowl has a larger percentage of those that are into the sport who watch it compared to football… personally I’m all for it becoming a bigger spectacle because honestly it usually just feels like another game not as big as it should feel at least to me
I see both points, but I see where the PSG president is going with this. Even though the CL has far more audience than Super-bowl, Super-bowl has or is more hyped and thus create more interest. When you watch it on TV, even if you know nothing about it you will know that something big is up because it just feels and looks big. The CL sometimes does not generate the that much of interest. The reason they have less viewers is only bcuz it is not as global as football/soccer is, it is mostly a North American sport. Had it been close like football it would have trumped the CL for sure due to how the Americans market their products.
Speaking fr experience I'm only interested in the superbowl half time show and not the game itself and am an American. I think doing the same with the ucl final would bring more viewers especially fr this side of the pon. It's kinda unfair to compare the views for the superbowl and the ucl bcaz soccer is the most popular sport in the world while NFL isn't even in the top 10.
We watch football for quality of the game, not for halftime shows where some people sing and dance.
What exactly is complicated?
People only watch the super bowl so they can write a fb status . Nobody watches the play offs . The champions league is huge through the whole tournament
No one watches the super bowl in Africa we don’t even care but the Champions league is a spectacle I agree with Simon.
'He's not an idiot, he's a president of PSG'
And that doesn't change the fact that he's an idiot.. I swear, Jim is losing his mind.
I don't what PSG president was saying why we would Americanize the cl final