Toddler fell through open glass pane on cruise that should have been closed, attorney says
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2019
- The attorney for an American family whose 1-year-old daughter died Sunday after falling from Royal Caribbean's Freedom of the Seas cruise ship said the child's grandfather did not drop her as was initially reported by officials in Puerto Rico, where the ship was docked.
I don't believe these people deserve one penny for the stupidity of the grandpa what-so-ever. Even if there was a glass window I would have never place a one-year-old on a railing and let her go. What the hell was he thinking? how is it that you don't make sure the area is safe? and the parents hired an attorney before they even got the remainings back. Sorry but is definitely NOT the cruise ship staff responsibility to babysit your child and grandparents.
Very sad story but blaming the cruise ship is straight lying. He did something really stupid -own up. Cruise ship isn’t responsible for someone’s STUPIDITY!
Their lawyer is also lying about that being a childrens play area.
From the look of the idiot, shouldve washed his hands thoroughly after eating all those toasted buttered rolls before handling his granddaughter. Its always the ones that love u, that hurt you.
I hope that this family will have no success with their lies.
Sometimes it is unbelievable how easy it is in america that stupid get what they want while they did a big mistake or believe everything the commercials tell them.
I hope this is not the case! The grandfather has to live with this if he is at fauth, and then he wants to lie about it, that’s worse than the incident itself.
As long as we continue to allow attorneys to file consequence free lawsuits than we should expect to see lawsuits regardless of who is responsible or who is at fault. The problem is that most companies will settle because it's cheaper than paying defense fees and that's not a sustainable model.
If he thought it was all glass then why not leave her on the floor where she can still bang the window??? why bring her up to the higher window? I'm not blaming no-one here, i just don't understand why put a 1 year old on a wooden railing to bang on the glass when the whole wall is made out of glass??? she didn't have to be lifted...I been on a few cruises and they do leave some top windows open to flow some air in.those windows are high and hard for any toddlers to reach.
Natalie Quintero
I know, totally agree! And even if he put her that high on the railing, why wasn’t he holding her?
@@mira99ist Exactly !!! The lawyer makes it seems as if its normal and safe to put a child on a railing. The railing is not meant to be sat on is meant to prevent people from getting that close to the windows. That's a warning sign on it's own! Such a tragic loss. I don't think the Cruise line is at fault on this one.
@Natalie Quintero i totally agree
Natalie Quintero yes people need to own up to their participation when things go wrong.
The wooden handrail would also have not be there if there was no window that could be opened. He's full of it.
Gramps noticed the open window. He walked over and stood the baby on the rail to get a clearer view and to feel the cool breeze coming through the window. The baby jerked or leaped out of his hands. Gramps pride will not allow him to admit it.
Why life her up when she can see everything perfectly from the 1st level of windows? Because he saw that particular window was open and thought he'd raise her up and give her a thrill by looking directly out of the open window. Perhaps he even "dangled" her a little, like Michael Jackson did his child, to make it more exciting for her.Very likely, the kid was terrorized by the height and struggled with her tormentor to be released, at which time, pumped up with adrenaline, she over-powered his grip and he dropped her. Embarrassed by what just happened, the step-grandfather made up the story that the little 18 month old had a "window-banging fetish" and he was just trying to make sure she was enjoying herself with all the windows on level 11. Something not right here, especially the big lawsuit against Royal Caribbean, for "not watching over their child" when she had the whole family on the cruise to keep in eye on her and monitor her safety.
Grampa's pride?! I would NOT be proud if I was the cause of a loved one's death! =(
Showing cute photos of the one year old to make people angry at the cruise line may work for some people but not me. She was adorable and her grandfather deliberately lifted her onto a handrail and left her there (according to him). The window was not down where she could get at it (like the plane of glass in the 'hockey' picture). He lifted her onto a HANDRAIL. Handrails are there to stop people falling over edges and he, his family and their (predictably) lying lawyer are just a bunch of money grabbers.
This was a tragic accident and blaming a cruise ship for the accident is preposterous. Leaving a kid in a hot car and it dies, should we blame the auto makers for not allowing air in the car? The healing process should not start with a lawsuit and no amount of money will bring her back. We need to stop blaming others for the mistakes we made.
@@sunset4hundred44 The problem is the grand father is under a criminal investigation. What's the best way to try and make him not look like a criminal? Blame the cruise line.
Cute pictures as well a FAKE cartoon animations of the windows, making it seem like they don't open, when in reality there were several windows right near that one that were open as they USUALLY are.
@@sunset4hundred44 However those who live kids in hot cars to die never seem to have charges pressed against them. Hmm, makes no sense.
How do you not know the window is open? I been on these ships and he had to have lifted her up to that window. What did he do!let her go? This is horrible but it was clearly the Grandfather’s fault.
Ruth S. Agree! On my last three RC cruises, the windows were not exactly clean, so you can easily see if they were open or closed. Hard to believe he “didn’t” know it was open. He did a very irresponsible, stupid thing & now wants to blame the cruise line.
Why do they keep saying its a kids zone thats not a kids zone she had to be lifted to fall she wasnt just walking and fell this grampa need to take responsibility
things happen.... it is unfair to blame a grandfather that is probably wanting to kill himself for what happened.
Glass can break regardless of what type it is and no one should be banging on glass anyways rather it be an adult or a kid. Also the child was lifted up to the open window and over a railing which is not a standing area and the child was left unsupervised or is there something else going on we don't know yet. The videos will be out and will show exactly what happened. So getting money if they happened to win a lawsuit will never replace your kid and the person will always know the guilt and the pain which they could have prevented by making bad choices.
That is a big window how he didn't notice it was open.
Master Yoda would say "The Force" is not strong with this one.
@Marie Ramby As of now, the cops are saying not.
@Marie Ramby the father of the little girl is stating that the grandfather didn't drink .
@Marie Ramby yes, why he picked her up to see what? If she was at her level she was able to see it to, right? It seams the glass starts from floor to ceiling
No because all the other ones were closed so prob assumed all where closed in the kids play area, horrible, all of it
You've got problems you don't notice a Window that's open or even feel the Wind coming in stronger through that Opening than any other Spot
Cantante Gaming Exactly! On my last three RC cruises the windows were dirty enough that you can easily see which ones were open or closed. I have been on Freedom & due to being an older ship, the windows are scratched up so that they are not clear, so makes it easy to see if they are closed. Bottom line, the grandfather did something irresponsible & stupid and wants to blame the cruise line.
Exactly, the cruise ship should’ve ASSUMED that people got 99 problems but a cruise trip with the royal Caribbean ain’t one... therefore Think scientifically and not emotionally. What if you went on a vacation and took your mentally unstable grandma to that very same cruise ship. Granny is doing all fine and well but then granny just snapped and ended up going through her common burnout syndrome with your little baby on that nice and totally safe window spot where that grandpa (cough) (cough) accidentally mishandled a baby into spacetime? Obviously it’s the cruise ships fault in simple engineering failure of common passenger public safety. Yes you can say that your granny or someones else’s granny intentionally threw your baby into spacetime but all of this could have been avoided if the retarded cruise ships had safe windows to BEGIN WITH... Hence, granny could only have just yelled, throw some punches and call it a bar mitzvah. Therefore, with the help of SIMPLE safety, your ugly baby would be good and safe for now but waiting for another innocent accident to happen.
Exactly you know on those ships the windows are cracked usually not open enough for a baby to plummet to her death 😭😭😭😭😭😭rip chloe 😘
I've been on Freedom of the Seas three times. You can absolutely tell when the window is open and when a window is closed. The ship has been sailing for 13 years and never had a problem or on any other sister ships.
It’s a 1 year old baby! The person that was suppose to supervise her is responsable for what happened to her. If that person can’t even tell if a window is closed or open then he shouldn’t have been in charge of the baby in the first place. And besides that, he put her in the wooden railing 🤦🏻♀️ who does that!?!
Did they do a test to see if the Grandfather was drunk?
@@Daniel_trippen all they need to do is pull up his spending bill and it will show if he had had some drinks .
Don't be ridiculous. This is a public place, the environment has to be able to cater to people of all ages and capabilities including possible aggressive drunk young men and oldies well into their 90's. You don't allow a system which lets a whole pane of glass to simply be removed at that height. Hotels, hospitals and tower blocks have made sure for decades that their windows can't be opened any more than about 4 inches at any kind of height, usually second floor and above. The grandfather thought it was an entire wall of fixed glass panels, and that was a reasonable assumption to make at that level above ground. Of course there was a handrail, someone crashing really hard into a wall like that could still break the glass, and people get vertigo too and might need something to steady themselves near a window on a ship... so I don't think the existence of the rail signalled anything in terms of the danger of being near the window. He not unreasonably thought there was a secure pane of glass in front of them.
@@Daniel_trippen Yes, and no alcohol was involved.
@@thomidog9047 'fess up, Epsom. You're a personal injury lawyer too, aren't you?
In fact, you're probably Michael Winkleman. LOL
I won't even allow my teenage children to go anywhere near the widow myself at 11 floor high.
I'm with you, I have a fear of heights and I go with my kids and I stand in front of them to access and then NOPE! lol
I'm sorry for baby....but who raises a kid to think its OK to bang on windows? Family at fault..not cruise line.
@Robb: You are so right. One of the first articles I read stated that she liked to bang on the glass at her brother’s hockey games. Who would let a child do that? It’s not only dangerous, but it’s annoying to the other attendees. Then the grandfather stands her on a handrail (which is meant to keep people AWAY from the windows?) I think it’s totally the grandfather’s fault but I also think that the parents were raising this child to be a spoiled brat. Seems like the word ‘No’ does not exist in their vocabulary.
That was not the original storyline, they invented that angle AFTER the poor child died to make a case for a lawsuit hoping the masses could relate to the ape mentality bang bang.
Think scientifically not emotionally. What if you went on a vacation and took your mentally unstable grandma to that very same cruise ship. Granny is doing all fine and well but then granny just snapped and ended up going through her common burnout syndrome with your little baby on that nice and totally safe window spot where that grandpa (cough) (cough) accidentally mishandled a baby into spacetime? Obviously it’s the cruise ships fault in simple engineering failure of common passenger public safety. Yes you can say that your granny or someones else’s granny intentionally threw your baby into spacetime but all of this could have been avoided if the retarded cruise ships had safe windows to BEGIN WITH... Hence, granny could only have just yelled, throw some punches and call it a bar mitzvah. Therefore, with the help of SIMPLE safety, your ugly baby would be good and safe for now but waiting for another innocent accident to happen.
@@sto2779 It takes a rather high degree of arrogance, or maybe stupidity, to bypass a safety railing and then claim that it was the cruise line's fault.
This is ridiculous. The pane is the middle pane and at least 3 feet above the ground, and you can obviously tell the windows are open this is such bs
@@iPad2Thao Careful, you forgot to put on your CZcams comment that it might contain logic and therefore make sense.
I can't tell in the photographs that that window is open. You can see clearly from outside the ship that it's open, but not from inside.
Epsom Salts You actually can, ive sailed with Royal Caribbean before and this is the exact reason the windows are tinted, so that when one of them is open you can easily tell the difference between glass and air based off of the extreme difference in color. I know there’s photos circling around of the window supposedly open in one and closed in another and there being no visual difference, but I strongly believe the window is open in both pictures. And even if you don’t notice the color difference, if you’re paying attention there’s no way you won’t notice the noise and wind coming through the window being less than a foot away. Again, no excuse.
@@thomidog9047 BS !! Time for you to get your eyes examined.
@@themusicalpilot1382 - The window is indeed open in both photographs. The point is that it can't be picked in the first photo - it needs the second one with the red circle drawn around it before you actually realise which pane is open. It should not be possible in any public place to find a window open like this, let alone in a children's play area and at a height that people often carry their kids at - hip height. Hotels and hospitals stopped allowing open windows any higher than the second storey decades ago, because too many people threw themselves out! Relying on a window tint is poor practice I would have thought, because being able to see the tint relies on a lot of things, including the age of the person viewing it and whether or not they themselves are wearing tinted glasses. The ship was docked in port with quite a lot of built environment around it, so there may not have been any breeze or very much noise, and the visual background may not have allowed the tint to be easily seen. Just as it can't be seen in the photographs.
They should check the cameras to find out what the hell happened.
I've sailed on that ship before. I saw many CCTV cameras on deck 11.
Oh not to worry they have watched it from every angle. That's why the cruise line is going after the grandfather.
@@coacht1738 they need too . It was because of him this beautiful little girl is gone . He needs to be held responsible for what he did .
The video is already on Google
They did. Hes guilty
I’ve been on 13 royal carribean cruises and 4 of them have been on the Freedom of the Seas. There is no way that the little girl could have fallen from that window unless she was being held by someone. I’m around 5’7 and the window starts at my chest. The cruise is getting blamed for something that is nowhere near their fault. I’m sure they will give the family some money for their sadness anyway, but this case they won’t lose.
Rubbish. I have been on theses ships. The windows are too high up for a toddler to reach unless they are picked up or stand on something. People need to start taking the blame for their own mistakes.
Exactly. Cruise ships can be humid and stuffy, especially when docked. So having an open window helps. That's why they open! Those people knew that window was open. No way they couldn't tell. People always place blame on someone or something else.
Yep been on royal carribean same style as this. Deck set up is familiar. Yeh those upper decks get stuffy so windows open and close. Only the tops are open since they are out of a kids reach unless parents lift that past that rail to what gramps did. They just arrested him.
Think scientifically not emotionally. What if you went on a vacation and took your mentally unstable grandma to that very same cruise ship. Granny is doing all fine and well but then granny just snapped and ended up going through her common burnout syndrome with your little baby on that nice and totally safe window spot where that grandpa (cough) (cough) accidentally mishandled the baby into spacetime? Obviously it’s the cruise ships fault in simple engineering failure of common passenger public safety.
Attorney saying window should have been closed. Lol. Umm anyone can open and close them they sliders windows. Does not matter staff or passengers esp when the ship is docked and in port. Those upper decks get hot so the windows open to ventiliate. Poor gramps. But seems he held his kid out an open window.
@@sto2779 It was obviously the negligent step-grandfather's fault. He completely bypassed the safety barrier. No amount of "simple engineering" can prevent someone with stubborn stupidity from doing something dangerous.
when im in a high rise and I have my grandkids I always make sure the windows are closed locked...cuz im in fear they will fall out and get killed
I'm still wondering why you would take an 18 month old in a 7 DAY cruise! You can't even take them to the kiddie pool unless they are potty trained. They are bound to get bored and restless. And why would you let a child "bang" on a glass window that is 11 stories high. And why did it happen to be the only window open out of all those windows? That window is RC's property, not his to let her bang on. The whole thing doesn't make sense, especially since his story keeps changing. It's not the cruise liner's fault. He was probably aggravated for having to babysit while the other grandparents and parents were out having fun. And this was just their first day of the cruise. And they hire an attorney and thinking of suing before she is even buried? Smh
completely agree.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO true.
Karen, there is a large splash pad for kids that she does not need to be potty trained for. Swim diapers are acceptable on the ship. There are also kids programs, games, arcades, etc. Let’s not talk about whether kids are welcome to go on a vacation that is otherwise safe if a supervising adult isn’t dropping them over a railing...
I am sorry i have been on SEVERAL cruises. HOW THE HELL you can't see a missing window GTFOH
Think scientifically not emotionally. What if you went on a vacation and took your mentally unstable grandma to that very same cruise ship. Granny is doing all fine and well but then granny just snapped and ended up going through her common burnout syndrome with your little baby on that nice and totally safe window spot where that grandpa (cough) (cough) accidentally mishandled the baby into spacetime? Obviously it’s the cruise ships fault in simple engineering failure of common passenger public safety. Yes you can say that your granny or someones else’s granny intentionally threw your baby into spacetime but all of this could have been avoided if the retarded cruise ships had safe windows to begin with. The granny could have just yelled, throw some punches and call it a bar mitzvah. Your baby would be good and safe waiting for another innocent accident to happen.
The grandfather made a terrible mistake by picking her up and putting her on that rail. Attorneys want a big payday.
Hold on: they put her up on the window so she could see ..... See what? She could see right at her level the window/ glass seams to go from floor to ceiling, right? There was no need to lift her up to see nothing
Child neglect, endangerment. Go to jail grandpa, do not pass go do not cect $200.
I feel terrible for what happened to that child. But sometimes you have to take responsibility for your own actions! Why on earth was that child left alone on a railing in the first place?! That’s just begging for the child to even fall backwards and hurting herself. My deepest condolences to the family and that poor child, but grandpa was wrong in this case.
She wasn't alone. He was standing right beside her, as you would if you put your toddler down to enjoy standing against the glass. She was used to doing that at her brother's games. Except this time, there was no glass. He just wasn't restraining or securing her, because he had no idea there was no glass there. Sorry but adults carry their toddlers at hip-height all the time, and pop them down on safe, convenient benches, ledges, countertops etc. This was an accident waiting to happen.
Epsom Salts Your statement makes no sense... “safe convenient ledges and countertops”?!? What ledges and countertops are safe to put a baby or toddler on and let them go?!? Answer: None. No responsible adult puts their child up on a railing (Hello, railings are there to keep people behind them!!!) and then lets them go!
Sorry but I went on this ship last October and saying that they didn’t notice that the window was open doesn’t seem right. I am NOT saying any foul play was involved at all. There are definitely windows that open in that area where there childrens water park is located. But the windows have a bluish tint to them and anyone can easily notice the difference between an opened one and a closed one. Its so tragic and I feel terrible for the family! What a nightmare! 🙏🏽💔😔
It depends what the light is like in the room and the backdrop to the windows as to whether that blue-ish tint is going to be noticeable. Also seniors tend not to see subtle distinctions in shade as well as younger people do. He clearly thought it was just a wall of glass panes and didn't realise any of them could open.
@@thomidog9047 sorry not buying that as a senior myself . Those windows slide open and are easily noticeable when opened .
Rebecca Cintrón And he didn’t feel the breeze? Yeah I call BS.
It wasn’t the children’s play area either. The children play area is a little more to the front of the ship and this is by the towel station
Epsom Salts Have you been on a cruise ship? It was still daylight, and you would have to be blind not to notice the difference. The windows are tinted blue....I think Grandpa chose that window because the view was clear. He should have sat her on the ground....most seniors still have sound judgement.
This is the lawyers story....I think he is smoking something. The windows are tinted blue! Grandpa could have set the child on the ground to look out the window. This was negligence!
Dummy put the baby near the glass. U don't do that weather it's open or not.
Think scientifically not emotionally. What if you went on a vacation and took your mentally unstable grandma to that very same cruise ship. Granny is doing all fine and well but then granny just snapped and ended up going through her common burnout syndrome with your little baby on that nice and totally safe window spot where that grandpa (cough) (cough) accidentally mishandled a baby into spacetime? Obviously it’s the cruise ships fault in simple engineering failure of common passenger public safety. Yes you can say that your granny or someones else’s granny intentionally threw your baby into spacetime but all of this could have been avoided if the retarded cruise ships had safe windows to BEGIN WITH... Hence, granny could only have just yelled, throw some punches and call it a bar mitzvah. Therefore, with the help of SIMPLE safety, your ugly baby would be good and safe for now but waiting for another innocent accident to happen.
This is tragic, what is even more tragic is that this ambulance chaser, who im can almost promised you approached the family and put the idea of a lawsuit in thier heads, while they are in such a horrified state, is convincing everyone that its the cruise ships fault. Sorry, but that area is not a children's play area, its part of the lido pool area. the grandfather sat the child on the railing, against the contract he signed when he booked the cruise, and please dont tell me you cant tell an open window from a closed on that's 6 inches away from you.
I agree with you man, I've been on that ship recently and I know exactly the area where the tragedy happened. That area is not the little children play area as the family claim. The guests that I saw in that area were mostly young adults and older and their usual activities are playing cards, reading, eating and socializing.
The family have had the cheek to retain a lawyer to try to move the blame on to RCI for having the window open - when it's obviously 100% the grandfather's fault. How can anyone not know when a window is open?. I'm heartbroken for the child who lost it's life - but can find no sympathy for the grandfather whose gross stupidity caused all of this, and for the family member who has retained a lawyer - as the only thing this means is someone somewhere is on the hunt for money. Disgusting!.
Think scientifically not emotionally. What if you went on a vacation and took your mentally unstable grandma to that very same cruise ship. Granny is doing all fine and well but then granny just snapped and ended up going through her common burnout syndrome with your little baby on that nice and totally safe window spot where that grandpa (cough) (cough) accidentally mishandled a baby into spacetime? Obviously it’s the cruise ships fault in simple engineering failure of common passenger public safety. Yes you can say that your granny or someones else’s granny intentionally threw your baby into spacetime but all of this could have been avoided if the retarded cruise ships had safe windows to BEGIN WITH... Hence, granny could only have just yelled, throw some punches and call it a bar mitzvah. Therefore, with the help of SIMPLE safety, your ugly baby would be good and safe for now but waiting for another innocent accident to happen. If that was my crazy grandma I’ll retain a lawyer too...
That's not a kids area...lawyer is lying
Why would anybody put a baby on the window banister of a glass window to let the baby bang on the glass in the 1st place? Rather the window was opened or not. The grandfather was definitely at fault
That is not the version the family told investigators immediately after it happened.
Yup, that was before they have an attorney. Now they want to make money so they will say anything that their attorney told them to.
@LTD Davis Dude, I been on that ship before and I know how these windows work. They are about 4 feet from the floor and pretty big. It requires some effort to slide the windows to open it. No children would be able to open these windows. As an additional safety, they have hand rail about 12 inches along the glass pane to make it harder to stand close to the windows. You on the other hand have never been on a cruise ship before but try to sound like some expert.
@LTD Davis Why dont you go to cruise on this class of ship and find out. The Liberty, Independence and the Freedom are the same class of ship. They all have sliding windows on deck 11. I'll like to see a little 30 lbs toddler try to open a 50+ pounds sliding windows 4 feet above the floor.
@LTD Davis Windows are necessary on deck 11 to allow fresh air to cool the area. They are tinted and chest high for safety reason. Your argument by compare a pool in your house have lock and fence is nonsense. All public pool area normally have lifeguard on duty do you have a lifeguard on duty at your home pool?
...and you know this because you were there ?.
Wow, leave it to a liar, I mean lawyer to point the finger at somebody else. That 💰 must be real nice.
Wow, the incident occured on Sunday and on Wednesday they already have an attorney? This was totally preventable by the grandfather not putting a toddler on any railing, period! So basically the cruise line has to idiot proof their ships because people don't have common sense? Not trying to be insensitive but clearly the lack of responsibility in their part is annoying. R.I.P. baby girl.
The sad part is the ship is already "idiot proof". They also lawyered up so quickly cause the grand father's under a criminal investigation.
I didn’t know that was a kid area, I thought it was a seating area. This absolutely makes no sense, if the whole wall is made of glass, why place her on a rail unattended to bang on the window? She could have easily and safely looked and banged on the bottom windows? Looks like they sacrifice this baby for the money, they have lawyered up, they want the MONEY!!! So what the father a police...
Yes because every parent or grandparent schemes to get rid of a child for money .Geez...online brings all kinds out ..lol
The Grandpa probably had cataracts and couldn't tell the difference between an open or closed window.
And the cruise line gave him cataracts- legalese spin by an ambulance chasing parasite (i.e. lawyer)
Grandpa was confused between the physical windows and Microsoft Windows.
And he has memory loss, forgetting to hold on to the child....he does have poor judgment.
@@iPad2Thao Some people are saying the windows in that part are tinted blue. So it was the blue screen of death?
@@juicyfruit6311 I have cataracts in both eyes and I can tell the window was open in the picture. I'm sure if I had seen it in person I would not have had any problem seeing it as open.
Where are the cruise video recordings
The same place that laywer's "I'M A CROOKED PERSON TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLES GRIEF" sign is.
@Eli: the family was given the opportunity to watch the video, but they chose not to. They asked for a copy, but the Authorities refused. I would refuse as well. This family is a bunch of liars.
This is such crap. The windows on a cruise ship open so you can catch a breeze, but only the upper windows above the railing open. Also every cruise ship I have ever been on, you can tell if it is open or not. 1. You will feel a breeze 2. The windows are a bit cloudy from the sea salt 3. They are at a level that even an adult would have to stand on a chair to get out of. Own up to your mistakes Grandpa and allow your family a time to greive.
I truly feel for the loss of this little girl's life but I don't feel Royal Caribbean has any fault in this. First of all why would you think it's okay to put your one-year-old up on a hand raill, let alone at a window 11 stories high. It's a handrail not a viewing ledge. Secondly why would it be okay to let your child bang on a window! Third....how do you not know a window is open! Be responsible for your children, hold on to them!
He probably put her on the railing because she was getting to heavy for him to hold. He should just have put her down. I agree he was probably taking in the nice breeze.
The Cruise Line isn't responsible for Grandpa's "oopsie daisy".
I read in one article that stated the grandmother would not face as many charges. So was she there also? If so, would 2 people not know that window was open?
@Karen: I read that as well.
He wont get the "Grandfather of the year" award. The Grandpa is negligent.
So you are telling me that you put a toddler up to a window or glass, & you LET GO???????
Wtf???
In that case, please charge the grandpa with murder!!!
So the cruise ship design should be like a submarine so no one can jump or accidentally falls out of the ship?
iPad2Thao then people will complain that they cannot see views outside..
I know right, sheesh
The cruise company should require all its "guests" to wear bubble suits and/or life preserver vests at all times while on the boat. This would put an end to most of their litigation problems. The suits would fit right over their mentally challenged headgear, and would provide for minimal contact with other guests.
@@nickv1008 These bubble suits should have a built in acceleration sensing parachute so they don't die hitting on the dock pavement below.
@@iPad2Thao the bubble suits are big enough to provide cushioning for a drop of 30 to 45 feet ( based on acceleration of 32ft/sec/sec and wind resistance of 8ft diagonal sphere.) A giant chicken fence of approx 18inch hexagonal wire, suspended around the ship should provide much more than adequate protection. HOWEVER, accelerometer equipped suits with appropriate parachutes would be indicated for airplanes, or high rise buildings. I understand there is an airbag for motorcyclists which is similar to this that is already available (sadly it doesn't deploy a parachute, yet)
Of course spin it to their benefit. The parents LIFTED the kid up. Come on take responsibility. All your gonna do is make cruising more expensive for the rest of us.
bro that’s just stupid. if i was on a cruise ship w my grandkids i would make sure that the windows are closed and locked and i wouldn’t even let them go near the window because of the fact that anything could happen and they could fall. this is bs.
Who puts a child up on a railing to "bang on the glass" glass breaks if banged on long enough hard enough. Dont think the cruiseline is responsible at all. Railings are not there to be sat on. I think going for compensation after the line has made sure family has incurred no expenses after tragedy occurred is trying to shift the blame and get compensated for own negligence. Why try and profit now from the negligence. Thats like me running onto the motorway , getting hit by a car then suing the makers of the car because i got hit
Feel sorry for their loss but don’t believe their story. You should know it’s open because you can feel the wind from the sea
Exactly. And that's why they went to that particular window. To feel the breeze while checking out the view. They are lying.
@@pinkfreud62 I agree man, the old man wanted to be famous like Michael Jackson and it backfired.
I’ve been in this shop and can see how an inexperienced cruiser may have not noticed the window was open on deck 11. I feel for them but they should not have put her up on the banister. It’s not for anyone to sit/stand on.
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Would the child have been able to fall without any help? I don’t think the window was low enough. The grandpa picked her up to a higher level. It is his fault. If the window open was below the railing the. I would say it was the ships fault. It was his fault. He placed her on the banister. It is his fault.
Why bring a kid to a cruise? Just stay home.
That's how I feel. Cruises are too distracting to meaningfully keep an eye on a toddler. They won't remember the experience. Why bother?
Those windows are always open. It’s wrong for the grandfather to put the child on the rail in front of the window. I’ve taken six cruises and they always had those windows open for people to lookout. Their should not have anyone be on a railing looking out. The grandfather should not put the child on the rail unless he check to make sure the window is closed. Who in their right mind would put a child in front of an open window on the 11th floor. You can’t blame the cruise because the family of the child was in the wrong. That child should not even begin looking out the window in the first place. My heart goes out to the family but you can’t put the blame on the cruise line. Because those windows are always open regardless who looks out of it take your hand 🖐 and feel if the window is closed.🙏
The grandfather killed her with his ignorance and negligence. He should be charged with manslaughter. "It was just an accident" is used as an excuse far too often.
So the window was open, so what? It wasn’t like the kids in the kids area could go out the window on their own. The Granddad had to put her up on top of the rail. It was a tragic, senseless accident and it wasn’t the cruise ships fault.
If the window had been closed and it was glass I wouldn’t have trusted the glass window anyway
This grandfather had no common sense. Serious?!! Put a baby on top of a railing to look out a window open or closed unintended... there’s no law suit here.
Horrific tragedy for the family, but to lay the blame on the cruise line isn't right. The grandfather, God help him, made a horrible mistake.
How old is this girl I've been hearing two years old 18 months old one year oldit just seems like no one could get the story straight what a tragedy and the grandfather put her up on a railing why??she never would have fallen out if you didn't place her up there I've been on those cruise ships those railings are very tall they're shifting blame it wasn't the cruise lines fault
It’s very sad the family is going through this. I do not believe Royal Caribbean is at fault but the accident is the grandfather fault for putting her up there and not holding onto the child. She could have watch through the window standing, the glass is floor to ceiling.
I was just on this ship. How they could not see that the window open is shocking. The closed windows and all the glass on the 11th floor have a distinct green tint to them. You'd have to be blind to not notice that.
I'm not sure how the family didn't know the window was open. I'm pretty sure they would've felt a breeze....
But can't you feel the air when a window is open?
That was not a kids play area. It was the pool deck that all passengers use and yes the windows do open. Tragic accident, but ultimately it is grampa's fault for not paying attention. Cruise line windows are never all that clean. An open one is quite obvious
Even though, Accidentally whoever help the child toward the open window is out of his mind.
Its not a kids area....those photos and videos dont show that...this lawyer needs to take a side seat. Let the family accept that it was an accident and move on. Why fight for financial gain. Chloe wont come back.
glass, the enemy of birds, toddlers and apparently grandpa's... I guess all windows will be needing stickers soon... Horrible accident, but letting a kid bang on a glass surface (even if she got used to it during hockey games), lifting her up that high without holding her, not noticing the window is 'missing' and doing it in front of a window with a long way down..? All sounds pretty preventable too - if you're looking to blame the cruise ship/crew... If I were the mom, I'd have a hard time visiting gramps... ever again.
God, what an oaf...
😂😂😂😳😪an Oaf
So according to this family's logic: My co-worker should sue herself because last night she went to throw a heavy bundle out the window, the window was up, and the heavy bundle rebounded and hit her in the face. Guess she needs to sue herself for not putting "CAUTION: WINDOW GLASS IS HERE!" on her car's windows.
He was holding her, he just wasn't holding her tight, why would you if you think there's a wall there?
@@thomidog9047 Why does he think there's a safety railing there in the first place?
I’ve been on Royal Caribbean cruises before and there is no way that a children’s play area with the next two windows that would open. And why would you put your kid on a wooden rail before I even finding out if the windows open or not because you thought it was cute secondly there’s no way you cannot tell a window is open they don’t open all the way you can even feel the breeze coming through the open window basically the grandfather messed up and drop the kid. How do we know that the grandfather didn’t do this on purpose and then claim was an accident the family and the lawyer islawyer is lying.
Trent is throwing daggers at the landscaper.
Been on manycruises. YOU CAN TELL which window is open. Come on!
Drop the attorney out the window.
Update....Grandpa knew the window was open before he lifted her up.
An attorney not lying????? Yeah right!
The toddler was put on a railing not a chair to bang on a invisible glass; hard to believe dude. There’s only one person responsible for that little angel death and was her grandfather. RIP
You would have to be blind as a bat not to notice the window was not open. Face it family just want money money money
I think he did accidentally drop her out the window and changed it to blaming the cruise line so he can look better to his family. He will still know inside what happened. Lying to get a payout is not helping anyone.
I honesty dont beleive the family is after a paycheck here. As a grandfather to a little girl about this baby's age, I would be to grief stricken to even consider such a thing. HOWEVER, the ambulance chaser is not grief stricken and he see's dollar signs against a huge corporation with deep pockets. Lets call it what it is. another attempt by a low life lawyer to make a huge settlement for which he will gain the lion's share of the proceeds. i hope the judge, if it gets that far, sees it for what it is and finds for RCI
@@Odette321 he didn't accidentally let her go . It has been stated that he picked her up, placed her on the rail and voluntarily let go of her .
@Geoffrey: Can you explain why neither the parents nor the grandparents are cooperating with the PR Authorities?
Simple, the father is a cop, the mother was a prosecuting lawyer, they know not to incriminate themselves,and looking forward for a big payday.
Attorney has never been on a cruise ship, let alone on a RCCL ship.
Amen to that!
His story of why would a kids play area have an open window notice the grandfather had to lift the child to the open window, the open window is in a safe area the grandfather made it unsafe
I dont agree that small children belong on ships period...To many bad things can happen. But thats me
As a parent it is your responsibility to make sure your child is safe no matter where you are .
I agree with you. My kids have never been on a cruise ship and they're adults now. If they want to go on one they can but I never saw the point of taking kids on one of those just so I could get rid of them in a kids club or whatever.
Ridiculous... this would have happened anywhere. A grown, supervising adult put a baby up on a railing and let her go. The fact that it was on a cruise ship is almost irrelevant. A child died in our local zoo a few years ago because a parent put them up on a railing to sit and they fell down into the exhibit. Should they not let kids in zoos anymore because of an adult’s stupid decision?
Blame the grandfather like you blamed Michael Jackson
The family is too quick to blame for responsibility and money before the kid is even buried..Were child's clothes torn or dangling evidence shown before fall ??..Shock of child's death doesn't seem relevant before anything else..Something smells but I hope the truth will be discovered..R I P Little One !!!
Not family...lawyer. Family is still trying to keep their hearts from exploding in their chests with grief.
@@dlynn101..Sympathy should be for the child and not about fault or money, at this time..Reverse priorities to me !!
Child didn't fall, grandpa dropped her.
Even if there was glass there, why would anyone bang on it?
He should go to jail. Now they're trying to cash in on her death. Disgusting
This is EXTREMELY SAD you NEVER EVER leave a baby near a window open or not!!! CRUISE SHIP OR NOT ITS COMMON SENSE😣🤦♀️😔 Poor baby
B.S. I'VE BEEN THERE, ASK ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS. YOU OPEN THE UPPER WINDOW AT WILL. THE WINDOW, ABOUT FOUR FEET OFF FLOOR, WHEN OPEN ALLOWS OUTSIDE AIR TO CIRCULATE TROUGH AND YOU STAND ANYWHERE NEAR IT AND YOU GET A BREEZE YOU CANNOT DENY FEELING IT, EVEN IF BLIND.
News Reporter: *Trying to report story.*
Lawn Mower: I'm about to end this guy's career!
Seriously I was more focused on the random guy mowing the lawn. XD
I was on a ship identical to that--Liberty of the Seas and the glass is tinted so it is easy to tell if a window is closed or not. Every other window is open in that area to keep it cool and you can easily tell which windows are open. I still don't understand how that that grandfather did not know the window was open there. This is a tragic story all around.
It's not easy to tell in the photographs. I can't tell. It depends on what's in the background as to whether the tint is clearly visible or not.
Thank you juror number 12 . Let's wait for the truth ok ?
For those of you saying that you have been on a cruise, and you can tell if a window is open or not, you don't need to go on a cruise to tell if the window is open or closed.
The grandpa should of NEVER put the baby in harm glass or no glass he could of held the child in his arms tight to look
The lawnmower knew what he was doing, LOL.
Why did they refuse for the STEP grandfather to have a blood alcohol test? if he hadn't been drinking they would be happy to prove it.
That area is not just a children's play area, it is a general public area. There is specific children's areas and they do not have windows that open. This is all about the family NOT taking responsibility.
There has to be cameras. I hope and pray
@Debbie: they have the video but the parents didn’t want to watch it. They asked for a copy instead. Authorities refused (I would too. This family is a bunch of liars.)
She didn't fall she was dropped
What about the wind ....how he can not know there was no glass ....I think he just wanted to seat the baby on the reeling and the baby though there was glass and try to bang on it and he lost the grip on the baby
Railings are there for safety reasons. Not to put a kid up on it.
All the mean comments, wow. If this was their first cruise and the grandfather put her up to see better and the other windows were closed it is possible it was just a terrible mistake. The lawyer could be the spokesperson for them, they have not filed a law suit. And I’m sure they don’t want to be on camera for the worst thing that has ever happened to them, a true nightmare. Very sad.
People tend to jump at every chance they get to condemn the hell out of people so they feel better about their own shortcomings and failures. It's poor self-therapy.
It's months later - we now have video footage of the grandfather literally holding the toddler out of the open window - he totally lied !
Who opened the window? Why would anyone put a small child at risk like that?
Nick V That doesnt even matter.
@Nick V- the cruise line can't predict that an opened window that is about 4 feet above the deck would cause the death of a toddler who can't even stand up. The cruise lines do their very best to keep passengers from falling off their ship but they can't prevent stupidity of an adult placing a child near an opened window. If not an opened window, the grandfather could have placed the toddler on the railings that are everywhere on the ship. I've been on over 10 cruises and it's nearly impossible to accidentally fall off a ship. Most of the passengers who have fallen off either climbed over the railings or were pushed off by someone else.
It doesn't matter who opened the window. The window is too high for a child to reach on it's own, and there is a wooden railing in front of the window. Railings are just like the ones you see on staircases. They are there for safety, not for decoration. The minimum height is higher than the waist of an average adult. Those standards are in place to prevent accidental falls. A child is not in any danger from a window at that height because they cannot reach it. The grandfather chose to place her in front of an open window.
I love kids and feel sorry for there loss. However, it is your job to keep your child out of danger / harms way. The cruise has windows that open, not a crime apparently or they wouldnt be there. It was a mistake by the grandfather clearly. Im suprised the lawyer isnt trying to sue the person who acually opened the window LOL. .. that would be just as dumb as sueing the cruise line for your parenting mistake.
Hell the lawyer wants his million too.
Only one statement that makes it all clear..."He let her go"...then she was gone.