How to fix GPU sag ONCE AND FOR ALL! FREE!

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  • čas přidán 3. 10. 2021
  • Video cards have been getting heavier and heavier and the sag has been getting worse every year... so use this simple and FREE trick to stop it for good!
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  • @MrSuperduper5000
    @MrSuperduper5000 Před 2 lety +12544

    I've been able to keep my 3080 from sagging by making sure it stays imaginary

  • @geshtal2056
    @geshtal2056 Před rokem +3232

    Jay is a pro at stretching out a video that should only be about 3 minutes

    • @mikecheeze4312
      @mikecheeze4312 Před rokem +141

      No kidding, I thought a 30 second vid but same point made

    • @nhf7170
      @nhf7170 Před rokem +66

      Isn't there a time threshold for monetization (10 min, i think)?

    • @steelsteez6118
      @steelsteez6118 Před rokem +13

      @@nhf7170 there is not.

    • @mr_daz
      @mr_daz Před rokem +67

      @@nhf7170 there is for ad rolls i think. Used to be 10 now its 8?

    • @CVerse
      @CVerse Před rokem +41

      That’s why I’m glad CZcams added the Most Watched feature in the timeline

  • @late_august
    @late_august Před 5 měsíci +23

    Jay makes me feel better about handling my hardware, he beats the shit out of this card for what felt like forever and the damn thing still fires up

    • @silentdiscretion2657
      @silentdiscretion2657 Před 3 měsíci +9

      So true. When I set up my first pc, I handled everything like I was doing open heart surgery. Probably still gonna do it anyway. Might as well ensure nothing bad happens to my 1000$ gpu

    • @j.d.4697
      @j.d.4697 Před měsícem

      Because when he breaks it he got dozens of spare parts lying around. Do you?

  • @niko5514
    @niko5514 Před 2 lety +3

    Jay the only person I know having a superior case addressing the problem with special mounting points and still trying to fix this on his own.

  • @ChuckTownRC51
    @ChuckTownRC51 Před 2 lety +5180

    This is a masterclass in how to stretch a 5 minute video to 15 minutes.

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle Před 2 lety +201

      Could have be a short...

    • @harrislam8538
      @harrislam8538 Před 2 lety +210

      cos Jay digresses way too much

    • @bhavzm9035
      @bhavzm9035 Před 2 lety +402

      Another reason I stopped watching this channel often.

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle Před 2 lety +57

      @@bhavzm9035 same

    • @miiiooo7731
      @miiiooo7731 Před 2 lety +143

      He just wanted to make sure to tell the people what actually is the problem with manufacturers and why they are sagging sure he could speak faster here and there but its a good video showing the problems wirh the 30 series aftermarkets

  • @hiyasuamv9776
    @hiyasuamv9776 Před 2 lety +1592

    These GPUs should legit come with a bracket at this point

    • @nickspacemonkey
      @nickspacemonkey Před 2 lety +162

      Or they could just you know, make them better in the first place?

    • @AtomikMenace
      @AtomikMenace Před 2 lety +58

      Msi gaming x trio 3070 I got came with one.

    • @Redswipe
      @Redswipe Před 2 lety +14

      My Palit 3080ti did which was nice. Didn't need it 'cos it's vertically mounted but it was nice lol

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken Před 2 lety +5

      Just bought the same 3090 but the OC edition, not the Gundam edition. It doesn't sag out of the box.

    • @ItsMeMars
      @ItsMeMars Před 2 lety +18

      My RTX 3070TI Suprim X came with a stand. And I'm happy i did. It's way too heavy without stand 🥲

  • @holo2869
    @holo2869 Před rokem +213

    This fix is for the wobble, not the sag. The only solution for the sag is to put support on the other end. But in todays shorter pcb and longer heatsinks, the support can just be on the edges towards the side panel (on a standard case), where the additional power plugs are usually placed, since the heatsink contact to the pcb is around in the middle of the card, that's where the weight stress is located most.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue Před 5 měsíci +1

      gpu sag it needs a pull up bra🤣🤣🤣

    • @bradleyrex2968
      @bradleyrex2968 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yea, I put a popsicle stick in mine. A little black magic marker and it looks and works great!

  • @atsgem
    @atsgem Před rokem +4

    My RTX 3080 TUF as shown in this video had very noticeable sagging. I purchased the card around the release of the 40 series cards but recently it was worrying me a bit so started searching youtube for any reviews on a Asus GPU Holder. So I found this video in the search results and tried the fix and now I can barely see any sagging at all. This video just saved me $90 Aud. Thanks Jay 👍

  • @hobbyadhd
    @hobbyadhd Před 2 lety +466

    I was really hoping he would just slide a 3090 under the card to lift it up and then do a reveal.
    "All you need to do is buy a GPU to support your GPU. They are pack animals and need a companion" - Jay

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken Před 2 lety +6

      Tell me where do you get that stuff 🤣

    • @squallloire
      @squallloire Před 2 lety +14

      I believe that's known as the Bezos method

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn Před 2 lety +4

      But if the support sags, wouldn't it still sag? 🤣🤣

    • @hobbyadhd
      @hobbyadhd Před 2 lety +1

      @@kyoudaiken The pandemic has made me jaded and sarcastic maybe...?

    • @hobbyadhd
      @hobbyadhd Před 2 lety +10

      @@squallloire He just uses a bottle of gamer's tears.

  • @ogLenas
    @ogLenas Před 2 lety +3091

    10:00 minute mark for the start of the actual fix.

    • @Innero
      @Innero Před 2 lety +31

      yeah ;\

    • @Stevenx01
      @Stevenx01 Před 2 lety +141

      Saved 5 more minutes of agony, thanks bro

    • @Blafard666
      @Blafard666 Před 2 lety +42

      You doing God's work ...

    • @oneillam1990
      @oneillam1990 Před 2 lety +21

      king

    • @Eddie2P
      @Eddie2P Před 2 lety +14

      good idea needs some sort of compensation

  • @TooTurntAdam
    @TooTurntAdam Před 2 lety +18

    Just did this with my 3080 and it worked! Thanks for this simple and easy fix - was driving me crazy since I installed the new card.

    • @thenaberius6081
      @thenaberius6081 Před rokem +2

      Its really nice If the case is fully black you wont even see the brackets.

  • @geefhotmail6311
    @geefhotmail6311 Před 2 lety

    Thanks man, this is one of those nice pieces of information that makes a huge difference.

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken3954 Před 2 lety +649

    I worked in manufacturing for 15 years. 99% of the time the engineers make changes that make a product worse is because a mid level manager wants a larger bonus check and makes them cut the production cost!

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Před 2 lety +51

      Yup, got to cut out as much metal and plastic as physically possible to save pennies per product because. it looks good to save thousands over thousands of units.... So long as the customer doesn't complain or they can get sued over it.

    • @jorgeaura2890
      @jorgeaura2890 Před 2 lety +3

      Tbh, the sag problem is an aesthetic one, not a functional one (if the card is properly designed). So the product isn't really worse, it's just less pleasing and many people don't even care about that.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Před 2 lety +61

      @@jorgeaura2890 Except it causes strain on both the connection for the card AND motherboard since it means there is weight being placed upon something that is intended purely as a connection point for electronics and not as support.. AKA your PCI slot.
      Over time it can bend the pins and loosen the PCI slot from the board.

    • @jorgeaura2890
      @jorgeaura2890 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SilvaDreams The trick that Jay proposes doesn't address this. He's simply pre-sagging the gpu so that it looks level with the case. And I think that both the motherboards and gpus are designed wih this sag in mind.

    • @mrROAR104
      @mrROAR104 Před 2 lety +54

      @@jorgeaura2890 the trick he proposes absolutely does fix this. It isn't putting extra strain on the PCI slot, or if there is any it's much much less. he's not simply pre sagging the GPU so it looks level with the case. He's making it so it can't sag like that. Not sure if you watched the same video as us tbh.

  • @Tomab89
    @Tomab89 Před 2 lety +341

    This is one of the rare "THIS SIMPLE TRICK" videos that is actually not useless.

    • @riingo9795
      @riingo9795 Před 2 lety +26

      But still has a 15min video.
      It's informative with comparison and all but timestamps surely wouldn't hurt

    • @JayC133
      @JayC133 Před 2 lety +8

      @@riingo9795 Amen to that!!! Jesus I feel like this could have been a YT short or something with more people watching

    • @kanpeki3033
      @kanpeki3033 Před 2 lety +7

      Except it took like 12 minutes to get to the point

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning Před 2 lety

      There's three minutes of useful advice. The rest exists for advertisement revenue and it's annoying.

  • @markarato8034
    @markarato8034 Před 2 lety +14

    I once built a tiny support column for the gpu using lego, has been in use for ages. Works perfectly, and if you have the bricks you can customize it to the build. In my brother's pc we used fishing line and hooked it to the top of the case (there is an opening for air)

  • @NeuroPulse
    @NeuroPulse Před rokem

    Jay, I keep coming back to your channel. You have the best tips!

  • @guillaumejoop6437
    @guillaumejoop6437 Před 2 lety +623

    looking at Jay playing with the card, I can't tell if it's a "I know it won't break" or a "I don't care if it breaks" situation

    • @zpotato1346
      @zpotato1346 Před 2 lety +24

      probably little bit of both XD

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia Před 2 lety +22

      At least he doesn't drop 'em.

    • @cocoahere875
      @cocoahere875 Před 2 lety +6

      He did say in another video he has like 4 EVGA 3090s

    • @davesafian
      @davesafian Před 2 lety +24

      All I know, is that if I were wiggling with a card like that I'd probably be replacing a motherboard and a gpu. That's how my luck usually goes. This sure did make me cringe though.

    • @qupeter1224
      @qupeter1224 Před 2 lety

      i mean it would only kill the pcie slot on the motherboard in the worst case scenario, not a super hard fixed

  • @MichaelReeves412
    @MichaelReeves412 Před 2 lety +284

    “How to fix GPU Sag for Free!”
    Me who just had a GPU bracket delivered literally yesterday: 🗿🗿🗿

    • @magiclikorn5872
      @magiclikorn5872 Před 2 lety +5

      F that 10$ 😂 Rip bro

    • @builderphill1361
      @builderphill1361 Před 2 lety +1

      I got a dope v1tech bracket, but this would've been nice too 😂

    • @Xetanyl
      @Xetanyl Před 2 lety +2

      I got an ezdiy fab bracket but can't install it since the screws that come w it don't fit in my case...

    • @kagato82
      @kagato82 Před 2 lety +1

      I actually like my sag bracket. It compliments my build.
      Might have to try Jay's method with my son's PC. It has a EVGA 2080 Super that sags like crazy

    • @alienclay2
      @alienclay2 Před 2 lety +2

      Does it have RGB?

  • @yelsisfunchannel8256
    @yelsisfunchannel8256 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the fix man! Love it! More power to your channel! God bless.

  • @romanblanks1473
    @romanblanks1473 Před 2 lety +59

    Another tip for free GPU support:
    An unexpected benefit of using the type of thick, stiff, reinforced and harder-to-work-with pcie power cables such as those that come with the Corsair rm - - - x PSUs (e.g. rm1000x) is that you can - after fighting with them more than you would with more giving cables - position and angle them to provide intrinsic upward support to the end of the GPU that is prone to sagging down (especially if you have them coming up through a shroud like they are in this video). That way the PCIe cables effectively act like the GPU stands (e.g. up-here) that sit on PSU shrouds/case bottoms and extend up to the same sag-prone unsupported end of the GPU.

    • @NameyNames
      @NameyNames Před rokem +5

      Not a bad idea in itself and I've no doubt that it works, but putting not-designed-for stress on the power connectors (and thus the PCB) might potentially be an issue (at worst e.g. causing a crack in the PCB or connector soldering point). No idea if this could actually be a problem, but just thought I'd mention it. 🙂

    • @ataman3141
      @ataman3141 Před rokem +1

      I connected the psu cables (850x) by using upside way so it hold the gpu up.

    • @bustinofficial1331
      @bustinofficial1331 Před 5 měsíci

      This is what I did before I bought a GPU support bracket, the extra 13$ is much worth it, they have cheaper as well just wanted Antec to match the case, I've seen some for 6$

  • @LanceThumping
    @LanceThumping Před 2 lety +685

    I think the real issues is that PCIe/motherboard standards weren't designed with giant GPUs in mind.
    What we need is a redesign of the standard to account for different sized cards that can take up the full volume of space across the MB.

    • @skopperkopp6091
      @skopperkopp6091 Před 2 lety +52

      Completely agree. Even if the gpus were designed more sturdy it would still put stress on the MB on the pcie slot.

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 Před 2 lety +9

      Not entirely it's. stil the fact your put your parts on the side! just why would you do that.! look at
      Click image to open expanded view
      Thermaltake Level 20 VT, or the HAF Evo from cool master, or Silvertones horizontal cases. some of Azz have horizontal stuff going on to!. putting everything on the side like this is dumb.

    • @mikerzisu9508
      @mikerzisu9508 Před 2 lety +37

      Although, thick heavy gpus have been around for many years now. Motherboard manufacturers have had plenty of time to adapt, but haven't. Honestly, not sure what the motherboard manufacturers can do, this is mostly a card and case issue. Jay shows how the cheap construction of the cards is leading to the sag. They need to design the cards with alot more support at the point of mount

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi Před 2 lety +7

      Giant gpus and other aibs have been a thing for awhile.
      This is demonstrably card manufacturers being cheap.

    • @davidmason3841
      @davidmason3841 Před 2 lety +4

      @@gorkskoal9315 I agree, I have a true desktop case, as the slots were designed for, a CM HAF EVO, when the Mobo is horizontal and the GPU is vertical straight above it, the weight is all supported, nothing is stressed.

  • @thegoodboi2748
    @thegoodboi2748 Před 2 lety +435

    I feel like most high end house should include their own anti sag bracket. Is it really that much extra cost to make a little strip of metal?

    • @T0asty-
      @T0asty- Před 2 lety +40

      I mean they used to come with SLI bridges, and a anti sag bracket sounds infinitely more useful.

    • @hg1986
      @hg1986 Před 2 lety +7

      I think it will kinda like be the case of apple not including chargers at their phones - even if you include one when shipping them out, the custom vga bridge market is becoming quite big, and people who actually care to get one better than cut off chopsticks and lego bricks would throw them away anyway. I think it would be cool for vga sellers to inculde them with cards tho, as the price tier would be way higher than cases and it would make sense for them to throw in something that costs like 20$ to make.

    • @Entrophius
      @Entrophius Před 2 lety +3

      The center of mass for a high-end is so far away from any of it's mounting points anti-sag bracket (or an adjustable standoff) seems like something mandatory at this point.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 Před 2 lety +16

      no...but they can not include it, then turn around and sell you it to you. much like iphones/samsungs with the chargers.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Před 2 lety

      Because most people won’t care, like they don’t care about sleeved psu extenders.

  • @richardrussell4022
    @richardrussell4022 Před 2 lety

    This worked! I have a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case, with an EVGA Gefore RTX 3070 FTW3. I took the two extra brackets, slid them in as described in the video and the sag is gone! The nice part about this case is it has a darkened border on the glass door, so you cannot even see the screws once everything is in place. Thanks Jay for the ridiculously simple and free solution. This should have 1M+ views.

  • @medievalan6285
    @medievalan6285 Před rokem +1

    Jay truly is a master at prolonging a video

  • @godthegod4491
    @godthegod4491 Před 2 lety +315

    GPU Manufacturers "Let's save a fraction of a penny by cutting down the bracket. Nobody cares how the card looks so let it sag!"
    Also GPU Manufacturers "Let's spend a bunch of extra money on RGB, custom backplates and cooler designs. People care how the card looks so make it pretty!"

    • @walkieer
      @walkieer Před 2 lety +30

      Much easier to market big shiny lights to a bunch of kids.

    • @nirast2561
      @nirast2561 Před 2 lety +7

      Crazy thing is, you'll never see the cooler, because it's at the bottom of the card. Unless you're like me, and have an inverted PC, then you can admire it's glory and don't have to worry about sag either!

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry Před 2 lety +1

      Sa(gge)d RGB

    • @unleashedsavage
      @unleashedsavage Před 2 lety +8

      Ppl are the prob. Ppl keep buying garbage from the manafacturers so manafacturers are happy to oblige 🤷‍♂️

    • @cardinaldriver
      @cardinaldriver Před 2 lety +2

      Wonder if this is a problem in Asian markets or are they just shaving off weight where they deem it unnecessary to save $ for US shipping costs. They can't be that blatantly stupid can they? It would take me 3 minutes on Autocad to fix this across every board partner.

  • @M4rk155
    @M4rk155 Před 2 lety +358

    the world needs a webpage dedicated solely on counting how many times Jay says "I digress" in all his videos

  • @johngrisum
    @johngrisum Před rokem +22

    I am continually surprised that there hasn't been a standard made for creating a hook and latch for the opposite/inside part of the card. Would greatly help to prevent damage during shipping and metal/plastic fatigue and sag over time.

    • @toastedphantom3007
      @toastedphantom3007 Před rokem +1

      I've seen something like that being sold by caseking a couple years back but it's gone now. All I see now are the goofy support sticks.

  • @humblegeorge
    @humblegeorge Před 2 lety

    One of the very best video you,ve ever done.Brilliant !!!

  • @TheBrewjo
    @TheBrewjo Před 2 lety +202

    If she's delivered me sweet victory over the years, I don't mind if her GPU's get saggy. They'll always be perfect to me!

  • @jwdickieson
    @jwdickieson Před 2 lety +86

    This is a pretty good fix I'm definitely going to use it, though I am a little confused as to why a several thousand dollar video card was not designed with that in mind

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 Před 2 lety

      Meanwhile the wolf ran🥛🍼🍯🍮🍭🍬🍫

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 Před 2 lety

      And whenever she had 🎂🍪🍩🍨🍤

    • @Freneticburn
      @Freneticburn Před 2 lety +1

      most people probably still have their GPUs hidden inside the case so it never mattered before but now everyone has a lightshow going on in their PC case and something like a saggy component became noticeable when they weren't before.

    • @tr1llwill
      @tr1llwill Před 2 lety +3

      @@Freneticburn It's not so much that it never mattered but more that it never really was an issue. Only in the last few years have GPU's grown to the huge sizes they are these days. There may have been a rare model but that's it. So the majority of builders didn't face GPU sag in their builds.

  • @dainluke
    @dainluke Před 2 lety +1

    Jay I give you props. You have major balls for using the tip of a screwdriver to push down on the PCIe clip. Good lord the idea of that is like nails on a chalkboard. I just envision that thing going straight though the PCB.

  • @dominiclombardo6548
    @dominiclombardo6548 Před rokem

    Just bought an evga 3090 and somehow this video showed up in my feed. Super simple yet such an ingenious fix! Thanks man!

  • @vash_dakari
    @vash_dakari Před 2 lety +156

    I've got one of those triple slot EVGA 2080's, and it was the best design they've had, almost zero sag. I was disappointed they didn't continue that with the new cards. If your card is already going to exceed 2 slots to begin with, you should add the 3 slot IO bracket to fight sag.

    • @linuxares
      @linuxares Před 2 lety +19

      Yeah I mean if the cooler is gonna take up that slot anyway. Just add that metal piece...

    • @Instanewt
      @Instanewt Před 2 lety +22

      EVGA really went out of their way to use the crappiest bracket possible to give us clown lips on the back of the card.....

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Před 2 lety

      @@Instanewt Bingo!!! My 1080ti looked nice/classy... and then they went Fugly on the 3080's so I went Asus Strix... Still like EVGA Modular Power supplies however... and they have great CS... but shoulda canned whomever designed their 30 series cards...

    • @Manulajes
      @Manulajes Před 2 lety

      Can i have it?

    • @Yasokuhl35
      @Yasokuhl35 Před 2 lety +2

      the only reason that I can think of is, that if you watercool the card, you would go down to 2 slots.. Just that you can't use the bottom slot for SLI anyways since they removed that option from most of the new cards anyways.

  • @kamally
    @kamally Před 2 lety +8

    I love videos about these small details!
    These are the small specifics that you can only learn from tons off experience and often are never translated into a video.
    Thanks Jay!

  • @KyleSVT
    @KyleSVT Před rokem

    Thanks Jay!

  • @j.b.9145
    @j.b.9145 Před 2 lety

    Awesome fix Jay. Thanks 👍

  • @HowlingCurve
    @HowlingCurve Před 2 lety +77

    I worked in construction for about 20 years and that face comment made me laugh probably more than it should have.
    Edit: I might make a 3d printable shim and upload it to thingiverse for those that want one. I'll update when it's done.

    • @cmarco3702
      @cmarco3702 Před 2 lety

      that's kind of you

    • @SaleBosancheros
      @SaleBosancheros Před 2 lety +1

      Already designed and printed mine few months ago, but the thickness is probably the "trickiest" thing to get just right. So if you upload it I´d suggest varying it by 1mm each :D

    • @Torchedini
      @Torchedini Před 2 lety

      @@SaleBosancheros Or print it too high and then do some subtractive manufacturing to fit.

    • @SaleBosancheros
      @SaleBosancheros Před 2 lety

      @@Torchedini Sure but I prefer my top layer to be top notch hahaha, jk for me 3.5mm worked out and they are very very fast to print, trying to find stl as of now to share it

    • @ciscornBIG
      @ciscornBIG Před 2 lety

      Is it done? I can not proceed with my current project until you have this finished and uploaded, sir.

  • @PiXimperfect
    @PiXimperfect Před 2 lety +611

    Not here to fix the sag in my graphics card. Just here to confirm that it's normal 😅

    • @yasserasklou5491
      @yasserasklou5491 Před 2 lety +3

      I love your videos!

    • @dxrrk
      @dxrrk Před 2 lety +12

      Photoshop your GPU straight. Quick and easy, and most of all, unless you bought Photoshop, it's free ;)

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 Před 2 lety +15

      Sagging is normal. You just have to make sure it doesn't get so bad that it dips into the water.

    • @GodKitty677
      @GodKitty677 Před 2 lety +4

      If you let the card sag, then the PCIe connector can crack at the part that clips into the motherboard slot. Then companies will deny warrenty.

    • @fajarfazriansyah1049
      @fajarfazriansyah1049 Před rokem

      @@GodKitty677 I just used the GPU holder, is it safe? I mean, is it possible to gpu holder broke the vga case?

  • @RatikusuCh
    @RatikusuCh Před rokem

    This is an idea I'd sadly not ever come up with. Nice job figuring this out!

  • @MrRevell13
    @MrRevell13 Před 7 měsíci

    Just about to start my first build this week and I'll absolutely be using this tip, thank you!

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue Před 5 měsíci

      just remember to shim and fill that void so no gpu sag and your system will look awesome and no need to worry that your gpu pcb might crack either nip that issue in the butt before it can happen so it does not happen

  • @ddrs15
    @ddrs15 Před 2 lety +57

    love the first fewminutes where jay is just fondling his gpu's

  • @zackdl
    @zackdl Před 2 lety +4

    I'm loving these daily jaytober uploads, Jay. If only it were like this every month!

  • @dbailey3024
    @dbailey3024 Před 10 měsíci

    great vid thankyou keep them coming they are great Dylan

  • @marounsfeir5225
    @marounsfeir5225 Před 2 lety

    Very necessary video! Love the content

  • @QuiteLunacy
    @QuiteLunacy Před 2 lety +13

    So glad you made this video. I have the gigabyte 3080 and it is so heavy! I've noticed over the last few months that it seems to be sagging even a bit more than it did originally.

  • @x135792468
    @x135792468 Před 2 lety +88

    I'm always suprised at how flexible youtuber's PC parts are.

    • @tw1tch09
      @tw1tch09 Před 2 lety +8

      Seriously I wince everytime Linus, Jay or Paul installs a 30 series card one handed lol

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Před 2 lety +5

      @@tw1tch09 Why? They're experts. Each one of them has already installed more graphics cards during their careers than any of us ever will in a lifetime. I'm not worried about it at all, they know what they're doing.
      Except maybe Linus, he might drop it. 😏

    • @AvocadoBondage
      @AvocadoBondage Před 2 lety +2

      Are you implying theyre somehow more flexible than others pc parts? They dont flex any more or less than consumers lol.

    • @40yr.Old.Nerdin
      @40yr.Old.Nerdin Před 2 lety

      @@AvocadoBondage I suppose one could argue they tend to re-use boards and cards, installing and removing them multiple times. The slots and connectors could feasibly have more wear and tear than most consumer parts that get installed once and largely left alone.
      I do find everything looks like it installs effortlessly, while I know my parts and even PSU connectors were all quite snug in my latest fresh build.

  • @pompulousify
    @pompulousify Před rokem +48

    Only problem with this is you're still relying on a bit of force on the PCI-E slot which I'm not comfortable with. To put the least amount of force you need to support the GPU on the other side.

    • @DC-te1gw
      @DC-te1gw Před rokem +4

      naa. we don't need to do anything. Nvida and AMD need to build them better!

    • @pompulousify
      @pompulousify Před rokem +2

      @@DC-te1gw I mean yeah they could charge $10 more and provide a better "frame" for the GPU components to sit in/on but in the meantime I would recommend aftermarket options that support the GPU the way it needs to be supported.

    • @DC-te1gw
      @DC-te1gw Před rokem +1

      @@pompulousify or just lay your PC on its side. Problem solved for free 😅

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken Před 5 měsíci

      No you're not, all this does is restore proper support to the GPU same as previous gen 20 series cards. The only reason GPU support brackets and stands exist is to fix the sag without addressing the root cause.

  • @johnhouseman8018
    @johnhouseman8018 Před 2 lety

    I'm grateful. I thought the same thing with stupid looking anto sag brackets or braces. This workedreally well. Plus I love the fact that it looks so clean.

  • @itsjustdead_dcg6175
    @itsjustdead_dcg6175 Před 2 lety +24

    This is EXACTLY how I've done it since my first 30 series build. My first attempt was wedging one at the end but it wasn't aesthetically pleasing. Then I realized it could be stacked underneath. Great 👍 video Jay

  • @HeirofCarthage
    @HeirofCarthage Před 2 lety +663

    Awesome easy fix!

    • @DIYTech21
      @DIYTech21 Před 2 lety +5

      Byt will viagra work ? IF we use like in custom loop ?

    • @thereaper4333
      @thereaper4333 Před 2 lety

      Sometimes, the simple solutions are just the best.

    • @ISirSmoke
      @ISirSmoke Před 2 lety

      u know what's an easier fix ? Lego. I just prop up my 2080ti on a support I designed.

    • @MasonStormSunny
      @MasonStormSunny Před 2 lety

      It did not work. You owe me a plug.

    • @dhoffnun
      @dhoffnun Před 2 lety

      Sure is a lot more elegant than the acrylic pole tenting mine into position.

  • @wolfgangberger3629
    @wolfgangberger3629 Před 2 lety +45

    in my point of view you dont need special brackets to avoid sagging cards. simply take a little piece of hard rubber and press it between the left lower end of your graphics card and the pc case. so gravity is pushing the card against the case and supports the pci-e slot. works good for me

    • @han-huo
      @han-huo Před rokem +6

      Where are you getting pieces of hard rubber?

  • @Lestat070707
    @Lestat070707 Před 8 měsíci

    Bloody hell. You legend, thank you. Reminds me of the days of jury rigging at work, haha. Love this. Cheers once again! Can't believe I didn't think of this.

  • @JS-up8ff
    @JS-up8ff Před 2 lety +29

    Fun fact:
    A lot of Gigabyte cards that became paperweights are rejected by Gigabyte because they find stress fractures at the tab going into the motherboard. And they blame the consumer for this, not themselves…

    • @addictedtoRS
      @addictedtoRS Před 11 měsíci +7

      Jay just made a video covering this exact thing, good job spotting this a year prior

  • @SteelSkin667
    @SteelSkin667 Před 2 lety +61

    That trend of triple-slot cards with two-slot brackets is definitely a bit silly. I think they started doing that because sometimes mini-ITX cases have enough room to accommodate those gigantic coolers, but only have two slots to attach a graphics card.

    • @niklasbergvall9656
      @niklasbergvall9656 Před 2 lety +7

      Why not sell with two brackets. One 2 slot & one 3 slot 🤷.

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel Před 2 lety +19

      @@niklasbergvall9656 screw-on brackets....include both of them in the box..and the buyer will fit the one that he wants ;-)

  • @anglerfish61
    @anglerfish61 Před 2 lety

    I actually find this really helpful, not stupid at all. Thanks!

  • @koko_1989
    @koko_1989 Před rokem

    Thank you! This was totally useful actually!😃

  • @crainger
    @crainger Před 2 lety +25

    I fixed my sag for free. Jay now holds up my GPU 24 hours a day.
    Just training him to not slap it around so much.

  • @kevinsheehan3759
    @kevinsheehan3759 Před 2 lety +8

    After watching this I took the two case brackets from my Corsair 4000D, cut off the tops and bottoms, and gorilla glued them together to form the shim. I have an EVGA 3080 FTW3 and it is now rock solid just as demonstrated... I cut and glued so I could add three layers to the shim without having issues with the screw on top.

  • @BlogingLP
    @BlogingLP Před rokem

    Thanks for the Tip, I might use it someday

  • @kimbiwasmith9661
    @kimbiwasmith9661 Před 2 lety

    Any video that provides a free and effective solution to a common problem is a damned useful video.

  • @Mangorille
    @Mangorille Před 2 lety +8

    This worked amazingly on my EVGA 3090!! Just make sure when you shorten the plate, you do it enough so it doesn't touch the motherboard. I had to shorten mine more than Jay did in the video.

  • @Xevailo
    @Xevailo Před 2 lety +92

    "I've tried to shim it in the back"
    Yeah, me too. That's why I'm sleeping on the sofa the next days...

  • @cloudsweater
    @cloudsweater Před 2 lety +3

    My EVGA 3070 TI is sagging from the right and I know for damn sure long term it’s going to be a problem. This is my first PC and thank you for this!

  • @maxsunz3703
    @maxsunz3703 Před 2 lety

    THX Mr. Jayz

  • @alexandervanderaarobinson757

    I am embarrassed I didn't think of this on my own sooner. Thank you so much! I had trouble getting 3 stacked but knew if I only put 2 it wouldn't be thick enough so I had to widen the screw hole a bit.

  • @tbuksuperfly
    @tbuksuperfly Před 2 lety +14

    Just popping back in to say I just used this method, installing my new card today; :) Worked like a charm! The phanteks anti sag bracket they supplied with the p600s was a complete waste of time.. did nothing. So yeh.. thanks for the useful idea :)

  • @kurtb369
    @kurtb369 Před 2 lety

    beauty by simplicity ! like it !

  • @user-rx3mq2cp4s
    @user-rx3mq2cp4s Před 10 měsíci

    actually cool trick. Nice to know that, ty !

  • @madsox627
    @madsox627 Před 2 lety +176

    This is one of the best build mods I have ever seen. I’m always pissed that card makers insist on making the cards with so little support…

  • @rand0mtv660
    @rand0mtv660 Před 2 lety +5

    On an older build I had, I just tied butchers twine to the top of the case and looped it over some part of the gpu at the front and that fixed it for me. Pulled the card right back up and looked unique really.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 2 lety +1

      Same, but I used fishing line attached to the plug of the power cable.

  • @kimbiwasmith9661
    @kimbiwasmith9661 Před 2 lety

    Great thinking! Thanks!

  • @wwjnz9263
    @wwjnz9263 Před rokem +3

    I ended up getting a GPU support prop rod for $10. It arrived 5 days after I ordered it, and a day ahead of my 3080 arriving.
    Doing this fixes the cosmetic side of GPU sag. You're still relying on one small mount and your PCIe slot to support the weight of your GPU. Go with a prop rod, e-leash or something other than doing this. This fix still keeps a lot of stress on your PCIe connection, and that could break your GPU and/or your motherboard.

  • @lighter866
    @lighter866 Před 2 lety +11

    Is Phil the best focus puller of all times? With Jay all over the place all the time, my vote's in!

  • @JendaLinda
    @JendaLinda Před 2 lety +47

    The best solution would be support the card on both ends. Look at old IBM PC XT machines, the expansion cards are huge, they even have hard drives mounted on cards, and there are rails on the front of the case to slide the cards in.

    • @Paul-jb6rk
      @Paul-jb6rk Před 2 lety +2

      Same with Mac Pro.

    • @BoGy1980
      @BoGy1980 Před 2 lety +1

      with the variety of cases it's become impossible to do so... like 15 years ago you still had midi-cases that also supported the rails you're talking about, but those are only for full-sized AT/ATX expansion cards, which are VERY big, about the same size as the longer side of a regular ATX motherboard. Also i remember having such a card back in the mid '90s and it was hell for cabling. I remember having to buy extra long flat-cables for my hard drives and optic drives because my regular sized cables were too short as i had to route them around the topside of that full-length expansion card i had.

    • @RatchetLive
      @RatchetLive Před 2 lety +3

      Most business oem PCs still build like this. Some even have a locking mechanism

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 2 lety

      And it's not even a new thing with conumer cards. I remember that my 13 year old HD 4870 was sagging like crazy. Must be around that time that cards got pretty heavy and you could buy little standoffs to support the back end of the card from below.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Před 2 lety

      @@BoGy1980 They're not that big. ~335mm, which is comparable to many graphics cards these days.

  • @user-hd7on4of8t
    @user-hd7on4of8t Před rokem +1

    Thank you very much, gonna try that on a 6800XT Red Devil soon

  • @Carnage488
    @Carnage488 Před 2 lety +1

    gonna try this for sure

  • @LucasMp
    @LucasMp Před 2 lety +5

    That Gundam setup makes me feel things I can't actually say in such a wholesome channel's comment section. GOD DAMN!!!

  • @CristianLopez-xi4rt
    @CristianLopez-xi4rt Před 2 lety +9

    11:31 If you only have one shim, you can always bend it in the middle of the shim to make a curve, the bigger the gap to hit the cooler, the bigger the curve.

  • @offdabeatz
    @offdabeatz Před rokem +10

    Would be great if board manufacturers could find a way to route the center pin to click into the case of the graphics card casing.

    • @gpenn7201
      @gpenn7201 Před rokem

      been done. noone appreciates da chinese

  • @_Saevio
    @_Saevio Před rokem +1

    Not really thought about this before, but a metal bar the shape of an Allen key that goes say 3/4 of the length of the gpu on the top edge, possibly with some adjustable sliding fixing that locks sounds like it would work.

  • @jl9752
    @jl9752 Před 2 lety +31

    This is one of the things I appreciate about my 3090 founders edition, the three slot in combination with more of a unibody design really provides added support to prevent sagging

    • @messystressy
      @messystressy Před 2 lety +2

      The pcie shield screwing directly into the cooler is brilliant design

    • @nja3817
      @nja3817 Před 2 lety

      Got a 3070FE and same thing here, no sag in a small ITX motherboard.
      And i somewhat feel safer because of no components being exposed, so no humidity/moisture/dust issues

    • @syed2694
      @syed2694 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nja3817 3070Fe is never going to sag, it's a small card

    • @nja3817
      @nja3817 Před 2 lety +1

      @@syed2694 It's very heavy and indeed bending at the end

    • @syed2694
      @syed2694 Před 2 lety

      @@nja3817 No it isn't, I have one.

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya Před 2 lety +4

    I had this problem on my 3080 Tuff. I solved it by 3D printing a black sag bracket. It worked very well and you can hardly notice it with the glass panel on with rgb lights on.

  • @southsidesicario5716
    @southsidesicario5716 Před 2 lety +2

    After nine years of watching your videos this video is the one that gets me to subscribe. Well done and thank you for the fix.

  • @the_r0cket_man
    @the_r0cket_man Před rokem

    Worked good thank you

  • @1R15H182
    @1R15H182 Před 2 lety +3

    I was wondering why the new gpus never had a support bar to help with sag, This was a really good video for anyone looking to fix this issue. Simple physics to fix it. now if they can just put the power cables on the end of the gpu to shorten the cables in view that would be amazing

  • @Teknickel_ftw
    @Teknickel_ftw Před 2 lety +6

    One of the things that I love with my 6990 was the PCB sandwiched between a back plate and a mid plate and then mounted to the pcie bracket mid the card not sag whatsoever. It is a much better design than any card made today.

    • @SuperBasslover1
      @SuperBasslover1 Před 2 lety +1

      yeah same with the 7990 i had. i miss that card soo much! legit best card i have ever had

  • @Kevin-kh8bf
    @Kevin-kh8bf Před 2 lety

    Super jealous of this build. Love gundam!

  • @andrewdeck7945
    @andrewdeck7945 Před 2 lety

    Slick idea!!!! Thanks!

  • @jeizen
    @jeizen Před 2 lety +15

    "There's a void that needs to be filled"
    ...
    Yeah.

  • @Clavichordist
    @Clavichordist Před 2 lety +32

    Thank you for the simple fix!
    There are other implications with sagging cards. Over time, the PCB its self will warp and cause intermittent failures as the etches crack and solder joints fail. This was an issue some years ago with poorly designed cases causing the motherboards to warp and flex. The other issue too is as the video card sags, this will put stress on the motherboard its self and that will cause etch-failures along the PCI-e slots.
    I ran into these kinds of issues a few decades ago, or more now actually (I'm getting old) with various circuit boards I used to repair back when I used to be a board technician.

    • @Clavichordist
      @Clavichordist Před 2 lety +4

      @@CRSolarice You're absolutely right. It's funny how ideas float around then return.
      Back in the olden days, the issue was solved by using a channel to support the PCB along its edge near the front of the case. This worked well until cards were pulled in and out carelessly breaking the plastic channel or popping it out of its mounts. When that occurred, the cards would sag and cause problems with the motherboard such as the ones I mentioned. I ran into many motherboards that had ripped connectors and pulled etches. Sadly, once that occurred it was quicker to scrap the board than it was to repair it which could be done using buss-wire and solder. This latter part wouldn't be possible today due to the high frequencies we find with our computer busses. Back then things were in the Khz and low Mhz range.
      The other issue we face today is computers are not all the same size and not all are manufactured in factories like Dell, Lenovo, and HP. Today, we have enthusiasts putting machines together with various sized cases and motherboards, making a one size fits all solution impossible.

    • @Clavichordist
      @Clavichordist Před 2 lety +3

      @@CRSolarice I'm not much further behind you. I currently have an i7-5860. I agree going for the latest and greatest isn't necessary and I too go for the "new stuff" later usually to let the crowds pay for the hardware development and work the bugs out before I come along and get the stable hardware for a lot less than they paid for it.
      Right now, I am looking to replace my system because I lost some USB ports on my motherboard. I powered up my PC and the keyboard and mouse didn't work and neither did my backup drive. I jiggled wires, but that didn't do it. After a second reboot and replaced keyboard and mouse, the system booted, and the hard drive appeared but the system can't find 3 USB ports. My 1080 TI and RAM still works and so do my hard drives. I'll get another motherboard, one with a faster chip and move my RAM, hard drives, and video card over to that.
      In the 1970s I was building electronic kits and instead of becoming a music major like I originally planned (parents said NO!), I got into electronics instead. I headed initially to engineering but found tech stuff more fun and eventually landed in the hardware tech field testing and repairing circuit boards until those jobs went overseas. Today, given my eyesight, I'm not even sure I could do it because the components and everything is the size of ants. The stuff I worked with were the typical 70s and 80s equipment with little surface mounted components. I repaired disk drive controllers, modems, video terminals, and all kinds of memory cards, I/O controllers and comms cards. I learned a lot too and came to the conclusion that even the stuff we have today is still the same as yesterday except smaller, faster, and more delicate.
      Your concern is a big one because that can ruin the sockets eventually as I saw in the ancient hardware with cards not supported. Some of those systems had what we referred to as board packs. These were multiple boards that plugged into a single one via riser connectors and ribbon cables. This made a heavy pack, about as heavy as those new video cards. Without that extra support on one edge, that would eventually pull out of the socket and sometimes ruin the motherboard or backplane depending upon which style system these were in.
      Laying down your case isn't such a bad thing. The problem is It will be absolutely terrible you won't be able to see those blinking lights! We'll have to commiserate over a beer someday on that one. 🙂

    • @miniracersus
      @miniracersus Před rokem

      @@CRSolarice excellent comment.

  • @benjojo09
    @benjojo09 Před 2 lety

    i finally got myself a Tuf 3080 and i will totally try this when building my new PC, thank you.

  • @pabloc106
    @pabloc106 Před rokem

    Honestly love the antisag thing in my helios too, very helpful

  • @Jopeymessmusic
    @Jopeymessmusic Před 2 lety +7

    "See my hand right there, that's where the sag is happening. You have to fill that void". Jay, I try to fill the void everyday it's pretty endless! Ha ha ha.

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx Před 2 lety +8

    Definitely an oversight by these GPU manufacturers.

  • @MrAWESOMElol2
    @MrAWESOMElol2 Před rokem +4

    I usually just route the PCIE powercable with enough slack in the front of the case that it acts like a sag bracket when you put the side panel on. With a PSU shroud on the bottom and the panel pushing the cable inward and up it supports the card nicely.

    • @zamfielis
      @zamfielis Před rokem

      but what happen if i use my pc open...

    • @MrAWESOMElol2
      @MrAWESOMElol2 Před rokem

      @@zamfielis thats not smart to begin with

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 Před 2 lety

    Dunno about first 10 minutes of the video, but the last four and half were pretty useful.
    Thank you!

  • @bakut3n524
    @bakut3n524 Před 2 lety +4

    I just did this with my EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra and I got to say it actually works! Not that I ever doubted Jay, but it really didn't look like it was sagging all that much anyway. But doing this pushed it up a couple MM. Nice!

    • @TB_SnEaKy
      @TB_SnEaKy Před 2 lety

      I just got the same card last night, I start building my first pc tomorrow.

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir Před 2 lety +14

    In the spirit of this video, doing a legitimate "ez life hacks" for pc building would be pretty neat. You know, just the very basic stuff that can make a decent change to your build/how you go about things, would be neat.

  • @Nienormalny
    @Nienormalny Před rokem

    this is actually very useful video!

  • @skopeftisnclrp
    @skopeftisnclrp Před rokem

    0:09 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣 I love you man , love this channel!