How to fix GPU sag ONCE AND FOR ALL! FREE!
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- čas přidán 3. 10. 2021
- Video cards have been getting heavier and heavier and the sag has been getting worse every year... so use this simple and FREE trick to stop it for good!
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I've been able to keep my 3080 from sagging by making sure it stays imaginary
LMAO.
Lmfao
That's not even hard right now Ahhaha. :(
You’ve had a year to get one bro
@@juan2049 Do you have one yourself ?
Jay is a pro at stretching out a video that should only be about 3 minutes
No kidding, I thought a 30 second vid but same point made
Isn't there a time threshold for monetization (10 min, i think)?
@@nhf7170 there is not.
@@nhf7170 there is for ad rolls i think. Used to be 10 now its 8?
That’s why I’m glad CZcams added the Most Watched feature in the timeline
Jay makes me feel better about handling my hardware, he beats the shit out of this card for what felt like forever and the damn thing still fires up
So true. When I set up my first pc, I handled everything like I was doing open heart surgery. Probably still gonna do it anyway. Might as well ensure nothing bad happens to my 1000$ gpu
Because when he breaks it he got dozens of spare parts lying around. Do you?
Jay the only person I know having a superior case addressing the problem with special mounting points and still trying to fix this on his own.
This is a masterclass in how to stretch a 5 minute video to 15 minutes.
Could have be a short...
cos Jay digresses way too much
Another reason I stopped watching this channel often.
@@bhavzm9035 same
He just wanted to make sure to tell the people what actually is the problem with manufacturers and why they are sagging sure he could speak faster here and there but its a good video showing the problems wirh the 30 series aftermarkets
These GPUs should legit come with a bracket at this point
Or they could just you know, make them better in the first place?
Msi gaming x trio 3070 I got came with one.
My Palit 3080ti did which was nice. Didn't need it 'cos it's vertically mounted but it was nice lol
Just bought the same 3090 but the OC edition, not the Gundam edition. It doesn't sag out of the box.
My RTX 3070TI Suprim X came with a stand. And I'm happy i did. It's way too heavy without stand 🥲
This fix is for the wobble, not the sag. The only solution for the sag is to put support on the other end. But in todays shorter pcb and longer heatsinks, the support can just be on the edges towards the side panel (on a standard case), where the additional power plugs are usually placed, since the heatsink contact to the pcb is around in the middle of the card, that's where the weight stress is located most.
gpu sag it needs a pull up bra🤣🤣🤣
Yea, I put a popsicle stick in mine. A little black magic marker and it looks and works great!
My RTX 3080 TUF as shown in this video had very noticeable sagging. I purchased the card around the release of the 40 series cards but recently it was worrying me a bit so started searching youtube for any reviews on a Asus GPU Holder. So I found this video in the search results and tried the fix and now I can barely see any sagging at all. This video just saved me $90 Aud. Thanks Jay 👍
I was really hoping he would just slide a 3090 under the card to lift it up and then do a reveal.
"All you need to do is buy a GPU to support your GPU. They are pack animals and need a companion" - Jay
Tell me where do you get that stuff 🤣
I believe that's known as the Bezos method
But if the support sags, wouldn't it still sag? 🤣🤣
@@kyoudaiken The pandemic has made me jaded and sarcastic maybe...?
@@squallloire He just uses a bottle of gamer's tears.
10:00 minute mark for the start of the actual fix.
yeah ;\
Saved 5 more minutes of agony, thanks bro
You doing God's work ...
king
good idea needs some sort of compensation
Just did this with my 3080 and it worked! Thanks for this simple and easy fix - was driving me crazy since I installed the new card.
Its really nice If the case is fully black you wont even see the brackets.
Thanks man, this is one of those nice pieces of information that makes a huge difference.
I worked in manufacturing for 15 years. 99% of the time the engineers make changes that make a product worse is because a mid level manager wants a larger bonus check and makes them cut the production cost!
Yup, got to cut out as much metal and plastic as physically possible to save pennies per product because. it looks good to save thousands over thousands of units.... So long as the customer doesn't complain or they can get sued over it.
Tbh, the sag problem is an aesthetic one, not a functional one (if the card is properly designed). So the product isn't really worse, it's just less pleasing and many people don't even care about that.
@@jorgeaura2890 Except it causes strain on both the connection for the card AND motherboard since it means there is weight being placed upon something that is intended purely as a connection point for electronics and not as support.. AKA your PCI slot.
Over time it can bend the pins and loosen the PCI slot from the board.
@@SilvaDreams The trick that Jay proposes doesn't address this. He's simply pre-sagging the gpu so that it looks level with the case. And I think that both the motherboards and gpus are designed wih this sag in mind.
@@jorgeaura2890 the trick he proposes absolutely does fix this. It isn't putting extra strain on the PCI slot, or if there is any it's much much less. he's not simply pre sagging the GPU so it looks level with the case. He's making it so it can't sag like that. Not sure if you watched the same video as us tbh.
This is one of the rare "THIS SIMPLE TRICK" videos that is actually not useless.
But still has a 15min video.
It's informative with comparison and all but timestamps surely wouldn't hurt
@@riingo9795 Amen to that!!! Jesus I feel like this could have been a YT short or something with more people watching
Except it took like 12 minutes to get to the point
There's three minutes of useful advice. The rest exists for advertisement revenue and it's annoying.
I once built a tiny support column for the gpu using lego, has been in use for ages. Works perfectly, and if you have the bricks you can customize it to the build. In my brother's pc we used fishing line and hooked it to the top of the case (there is an opening for air)
Lego column gang represent
Jay, I keep coming back to your channel. You have the best tips!
looking at Jay playing with the card, I can't tell if it's a "I know it won't break" or a "I don't care if it breaks" situation
probably little bit of both XD
At least he doesn't drop 'em.
He did say in another video he has like 4 EVGA 3090s
All I know, is that if I were wiggling with a card like that I'd probably be replacing a motherboard and a gpu. That's how my luck usually goes. This sure did make me cringe though.
i mean it would only kill the pcie slot on the motherboard in the worst case scenario, not a super hard fixed
“How to fix GPU Sag for Free!”
Me who just had a GPU bracket delivered literally yesterday: 🗿🗿🗿
F that 10$ 😂 Rip bro
I got a dope v1tech bracket, but this would've been nice too 😂
I got an ezdiy fab bracket but can't install it since the screws that come w it don't fit in my case...
I actually like my sag bracket. It compliments my build.
Might have to try Jay's method with my son's PC. It has a EVGA 2080 Super that sags like crazy
Does it have RGB?
Thanks for the fix man! Love it! More power to your channel! God bless.
Another tip for free GPU support:
An unexpected benefit of using the type of thick, stiff, reinforced and harder-to-work-with pcie power cables such as those that come with the Corsair rm - - - x PSUs (e.g. rm1000x) is that you can - after fighting with them more than you would with more giving cables - position and angle them to provide intrinsic upward support to the end of the GPU that is prone to sagging down (especially if you have them coming up through a shroud like they are in this video). That way the PCIe cables effectively act like the GPU stands (e.g. up-here) that sit on PSU shrouds/case bottoms and extend up to the same sag-prone unsupported end of the GPU.
Not a bad idea in itself and I've no doubt that it works, but putting not-designed-for stress on the power connectors (and thus the PCB) might potentially be an issue (at worst e.g. causing a crack in the PCB or connector soldering point). No idea if this could actually be a problem, but just thought I'd mention it. 🙂
I connected the psu cables (850x) by using upside way so it hold the gpu up.
This is what I did before I bought a GPU support bracket, the extra 13$ is much worth it, they have cheaper as well just wanted Antec to match the case, I've seen some for 6$
I think the real issues is that PCIe/motherboard standards weren't designed with giant GPUs in mind.
What we need is a redesign of the standard to account for different sized cards that can take up the full volume of space across the MB.
Completely agree. Even if the gpus were designed more sturdy it would still put stress on the MB on the pcie slot.
Not entirely it's. stil the fact your put your parts on the side! just why would you do that.! look at
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Thermaltake Level 20 VT, or the HAF Evo from cool master, or Silvertones horizontal cases. some of Azz have horizontal stuff going on to!. putting everything on the side like this is dumb.
Although, thick heavy gpus have been around for many years now. Motherboard manufacturers have had plenty of time to adapt, but haven't. Honestly, not sure what the motherboard manufacturers can do, this is mostly a card and case issue. Jay shows how the cheap construction of the cards is leading to the sag. They need to design the cards with alot more support at the point of mount
Giant gpus and other aibs have been a thing for awhile.
This is demonstrably card manufacturers being cheap.
@@gorkskoal9315 I agree, I have a true desktop case, as the slots were designed for, a CM HAF EVO, when the Mobo is horizontal and the GPU is vertical straight above it, the weight is all supported, nothing is stressed.
I feel like most high end house should include their own anti sag bracket. Is it really that much extra cost to make a little strip of metal?
I mean they used to come with SLI bridges, and a anti sag bracket sounds infinitely more useful.
I think it will kinda like be the case of apple not including chargers at their phones - even if you include one when shipping them out, the custom vga bridge market is becoming quite big, and people who actually care to get one better than cut off chopsticks and lego bricks would throw them away anyway. I think it would be cool for vga sellers to inculde them with cards tho, as the price tier would be way higher than cases and it would make sense for them to throw in something that costs like 20$ to make.
The center of mass for a high-end is so far away from any of it's mounting points anti-sag bracket (or an adjustable standoff) seems like something mandatory at this point.
no...but they can not include it, then turn around and sell you it to you. much like iphones/samsungs with the chargers.
Because most people won’t care, like they don’t care about sleeved psu extenders.
This worked! I have a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case, with an EVGA Gefore RTX 3070 FTW3. I took the two extra brackets, slid them in as described in the video and the sag is gone! The nice part about this case is it has a darkened border on the glass door, so you cannot even see the screws once everything is in place. Thanks Jay for the ridiculously simple and free solution. This should have 1M+ views.
Jay truly is a master at prolonging a video
GPU Manufacturers "Let's save a fraction of a penny by cutting down the bracket. Nobody cares how the card looks so let it sag!"
Also GPU Manufacturers "Let's spend a bunch of extra money on RGB, custom backplates and cooler designs. People care how the card looks so make it pretty!"
Much easier to market big shiny lights to a bunch of kids.
Crazy thing is, you'll never see the cooler, because it's at the bottom of the card. Unless you're like me, and have an inverted PC, then you can admire it's glory and don't have to worry about sag either!
Sa(gge)d RGB
Ppl are the prob. Ppl keep buying garbage from the manafacturers so manafacturers are happy to oblige 🤷♂️
Wonder if this is a problem in Asian markets or are they just shaving off weight where they deem it unnecessary to save $ for US shipping costs. They can't be that blatantly stupid can they? It would take me 3 minutes on Autocad to fix this across every board partner.
the world needs a webpage dedicated solely on counting how many times Jay says "I digress" in all his videos
It seems like a good idea, but I digress.
He said it while I was reading this comment 😂
I digress
LOL want to split the proffits? how much do you think we'd make?
Used multiple times in every video haha
I am continually surprised that there hasn't been a standard made for creating a hook and latch for the opposite/inside part of the card. Would greatly help to prevent damage during shipping and metal/plastic fatigue and sag over time.
I've seen something like that being sold by caseking a couple years back but it's gone now. All I see now are the goofy support sticks.
One of the very best video you,ve ever done.Brilliant !!!
If she's delivered me sweet victory over the years, I don't mind if her GPU's get saggy. They'll always be perfect to me!
I love my girls 3070 Double S
can't upvote cause 69
This is a pretty good fix I'm definitely going to use it, though I am a little confused as to why a several thousand dollar video card was not designed with that in mind
Meanwhile the wolf ran🥛🍼🍯🍮🍭🍬🍫
And whenever she had 🎂🍪🍩🍨🍤
most people probably still have their GPUs hidden inside the case so it never mattered before but now everyone has a lightshow going on in their PC case and something like a saggy component became noticeable when they weren't before.
@@Freneticburn It's not so much that it never mattered but more that it never really was an issue. Only in the last few years have GPU's grown to the huge sizes they are these days. There may have been a rare model but that's it. So the majority of builders didn't face GPU sag in their builds.
Jay I give you props. You have major balls for using the tip of a screwdriver to push down on the PCIe clip. Good lord the idea of that is like nails on a chalkboard. I just envision that thing going straight though the PCB.
Just bought an evga 3090 and somehow this video showed up in my feed. Super simple yet such an ingenious fix! Thanks man!
I've got one of those triple slot EVGA 2080's, and it was the best design they've had, almost zero sag. I was disappointed they didn't continue that with the new cards. If your card is already going to exceed 2 slots to begin with, you should add the 3 slot IO bracket to fight sag.
Yeah I mean if the cooler is gonna take up that slot anyway. Just add that metal piece...
EVGA really went out of their way to use the crappiest bracket possible to give us clown lips on the back of the card.....
@@Instanewt Bingo!!! My 1080ti looked nice/classy... and then they went Fugly on the 3080's so I went Asus Strix... Still like EVGA Modular Power supplies however... and they have great CS... but shoulda canned whomever designed their 30 series cards...
Can i have it?
the only reason that I can think of is, that if you watercool the card, you would go down to 2 slots.. Just that you can't use the bottom slot for SLI anyways since they removed that option from most of the new cards anyways.
I love videos about these small details!
These are the small specifics that you can only learn from tons off experience and often are never translated into a video.
Thanks Jay!
Thanks Jay!
Awesome fix Jay. Thanks 👍
I worked in construction for about 20 years and that face comment made me laugh probably more than it should have.
Edit: I might make a 3d printable shim and upload it to thingiverse for those that want one. I'll update when it's done.
that's kind of you
Already designed and printed mine few months ago, but the thickness is probably the "trickiest" thing to get just right. So if you upload it I´d suggest varying it by 1mm each :D
@@SaleBosancheros Or print it too high and then do some subtractive manufacturing to fit.
@@Torchedini Sure but I prefer my top layer to be top notch hahaha, jk for me 3.5mm worked out and they are very very fast to print, trying to find stl as of now to share it
Is it done? I can not proceed with my current project until you have this finished and uploaded, sir.
Not here to fix the sag in my graphics card. Just here to confirm that it's normal 😅
I love your videos!
Photoshop your GPU straight. Quick and easy, and most of all, unless you bought Photoshop, it's free ;)
Sagging is normal. You just have to make sure it doesn't get so bad that it dips into the water.
If you let the card sag, then the PCIe connector can crack at the part that clips into the motherboard slot. Then companies will deny warrenty.
@@GodKitty677 I just used the GPU holder, is it safe? I mean, is it possible to gpu holder broke the vga case?
This is an idea I'd sadly not ever come up with. Nice job figuring this out!
Just about to start my first build this week and I'll absolutely be using this tip, thank you!
just remember to shim and fill that void so no gpu sag and your system will look awesome and no need to worry that your gpu pcb might crack either nip that issue in the butt before it can happen so it does not happen
love the first fewminutes where jay is just fondling his gpu's
The grandmother lived 👄👅🧠👁👀👣👃
The wolf thought to himself🌳🌲🌱⚘🌷🌼🌻
Then just as he was going to
I'm loving these daily jaytober uploads, Jay. If only it were like this every month!
great vid thankyou keep them coming they are great Dylan
Very necessary video! Love the content
So glad you made this video. I have the gigabyte 3080 and it is so heavy! I've noticed over the last few months that it seems to be sagging even a bit more than it did originally.
I'm always suprised at how flexible youtuber's PC parts are.
Seriously I wince everytime Linus, Jay or Paul installs a 30 series card one handed lol
@@tw1tch09 Why? They're experts. Each one of them has already installed more graphics cards during their careers than any of us ever will in a lifetime. I'm not worried about it at all, they know what they're doing.
Except maybe Linus, he might drop it. 😏
Are you implying theyre somehow more flexible than others pc parts? They dont flex any more or less than consumers lol.
@@AvocadoBondage I suppose one could argue they tend to re-use boards and cards, installing and removing them multiple times. The slots and connectors could feasibly have more wear and tear than most consumer parts that get installed once and largely left alone.
I do find everything looks like it installs effortlessly, while I know my parts and even PSU connectors were all quite snug in my latest fresh build.
Only problem with this is you're still relying on a bit of force on the PCI-E slot which I'm not comfortable with. To put the least amount of force you need to support the GPU on the other side.
naa. we don't need to do anything. Nvida and AMD need to build them better!
@@DC-te1gw I mean yeah they could charge $10 more and provide a better "frame" for the GPU components to sit in/on but in the meantime I would recommend aftermarket options that support the GPU the way it needs to be supported.
@@pompulousify or just lay your PC on its side. Problem solved for free 😅
No you're not, all this does is restore proper support to the GPU same as previous gen 20 series cards. The only reason GPU support brackets and stands exist is to fix the sag without addressing the root cause.
I'm grateful. I thought the same thing with stupid looking anto sag brackets or braces. This workedreally well. Plus I love the fact that it looks so clean.
This is EXACTLY how I've done it since my first 30 series build. My first attempt was wedging one at the end but it wasn't aesthetically pleasing. Then I realized it could be stacked underneath. Great 👍 video Jay
Awesome easy fix!
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Sometimes, the simple solutions are just the best.
u know what's an easier fix ? Lego. I just prop up my 2080ti on a support I designed.
It did not work. You owe me a plug.
Sure is a lot more elegant than the acrylic pole tenting mine into position.
in my point of view you dont need special brackets to avoid sagging cards. simply take a little piece of hard rubber and press it between the left lower end of your graphics card and the pc case. so gravity is pushing the card against the case and supports the pci-e slot. works good for me
Where are you getting pieces of hard rubber?
Bloody hell. You legend, thank you. Reminds me of the days of jury rigging at work, haha. Love this. Cheers once again! Can't believe I didn't think of this.
Fun fact:
A lot of Gigabyte cards that became paperweights are rejected by Gigabyte because they find stress fractures at the tab going into the motherboard. And they blame the consumer for this, not themselves…
Jay just made a video covering this exact thing, good job spotting this a year prior
That trend of triple-slot cards with two-slot brackets is definitely a bit silly. I think they started doing that because sometimes mini-ITX cases have enough room to accommodate those gigantic coolers, but only have two slots to attach a graphics card.
Why not sell with two brackets. One 2 slot & one 3 slot 🤷.
@@niklasbergvall9656 screw-on brackets....include both of them in the box..and the buyer will fit the one that he wants ;-)
I actually find this really helpful, not stupid at all. Thanks!
Thank you! This was totally useful actually!😃
I fixed my sag for free. Jay now holds up my GPU 24 hours a day.
Just training him to not slap it around so much.
After watching this I took the two case brackets from my Corsair 4000D, cut off the tops and bottoms, and gorilla glued them together to form the shim. I have an EVGA 3080 FTW3 and it is now rock solid just as demonstrated... I cut and glued so I could add three layers to the shim without having issues with the screw on top.
Thanks for the Tip, I might use it someday
Any video that provides a free and effective solution to a common problem is a damned useful video.
This worked amazingly on my EVGA 3090!! Just make sure when you shorten the plate, you do it enough so it doesn't touch the motherboard. I had to shorten mine more than Jay did in the video.
"I've tried to shim it in the back"
Yeah, me too. That's why I'm sleeping on the sofa the next days...
😂😂
:D
My EVGA 3070 TI is sagging from the right and I know for damn sure long term it’s going to be a problem. This is my first PC and thank you for this!
THX Mr. Jayz
I am embarrassed I didn't think of this on my own sooner. Thank you so much! I had trouble getting 3 stacked but knew if I only put 2 it wouldn't be thick enough so I had to widen the screw hole a bit.
Just popping back in to say I just used this method, installing my new card today; :) Worked like a charm! The phanteks anti sag bracket they supplied with the p600s was a complete waste of time.. did nothing. So yeh.. thanks for the useful idea :)
beauty by simplicity ! like it !
actually cool trick. Nice to know that, ty !
This is one of the best build mods I have ever seen. I’m always pissed that card makers insist on making the cards with so little support…
its called making money
On an older build I had, I just tied butchers twine to the top of the case and looped it over some part of the gpu at the front and that fixed it for me. Pulled the card right back up and looked unique really.
Same, but I used fishing line attached to the plug of the power cable.
Great thinking! Thanks!
I ended up getting a GPU support prop rod for $10. It arrived 5 days after I ordered it, and a day ahead of my 3080 arriving.
Doing this fixes the cosmetic side of GPU sag. You're still relying on one small mount and your PCIe slot to support the weight of your GPU. Go with a prop rod, e-leash or something other than doing this. This fix still keeps a lot of stress on your PCIe connection, and that could break your GPU and/or your motherboard.
Is Phil the best focus puller of all times? With Jay all over the place all the time, my vote's in!
The best solution would be support the card on both ends. Look at old IBM PC XT machines, the expansion cards are huge, they even have hard drives mounted on cards, and there are rails on the front of the case to slide the cards in.
Same with Mac Pro.
with the variety of cases it's become impossible to do so... like 15 years ago you still had midi-cases that also supported the rails you're talking about, but those are only for full-sized AT/ATX expansion cards, which are VERY big, about the same size as the longer side of a regular ATX motherboard. Also i remember having such a card back in the mid '90s and it was hell for cabling. I remember having to buy extra long flat-cables for my hard drives and optic drives because my regular sized cables were too short as i had to route them around the topside of that full-length expansion card i had.
Most business oem PCs still build like this. Some even have a locking mechanism
And it's not even a new thing with conumer cards. I remember that my 13 year old HD 4870 was sagging like crazy. Must be around that time that cards got pretty heavy and you could buy little standoffs to support the back end of the card from below.
@@BoGy1980 They're not that big. ~335mm, which is comparable to many graphics cards these days.
Thank you very much, gonna try that on a 6800XT Red Devil soon
gonna try this for sure
That Gundam setup makes me feel things I can't actually say in such a wholesome channel's comment section. GOD DAMN!!!
11:31 If you only have one shim, you can always bend it in the middle of the shim to make a curve, the bigger the gap to hit the cooler, the bigger the curve.
Would be great if board manufacturers could find a way to route the center pin to click into the case of the graphics card casing.
been done. noone appreciates da chinese
Not really thought about this before, but a metal bar the shape of an Allen key that goes say 3/4 of the length of the gpu on the top edge, possibly with some adjustable sliding fixing that locks sounds like it would work.
This is one of the things I appreciate about my 3090 founders edition, the three slot in combination with more of a unibody design really provides added support to prevent sagging
The pcie shield screwing directly into the cooler is brilliant design
Got a 3070FE and same thing here, no sag in a small ITX motherboard.
And i somewhat feel safer because of no components being exposed, so no humidity/moisture/dust issues
@@nja3817 3070Fe is never going to sag, it's a small card
@@syed2694 It's very heavy and indeed bending at the end
@@nja3817 No it isn't, I have one.
I had this problem on my 3080 Tuff. I solved it by 3D printing a black sag bracket. It worked very well and you can hardly notice it with the glass panel on with rgb lights on.
After nine years of watching your videos this video is the one that gets me to subscribe. Well done and thank you for the fix.
Worked good thank you
I was wondering why the new gpus never had a support bar to help with sag, This was a really good video for anyone looking to fix this issue. Simple physics to fix it. now if they can just put the power cables on the end of the gpu to shorten the cables in view that would be amazing
One of the things that I love with my 6990 was the PCB sandwiched between a back plate and a mid plate and then mounted to the pcie bracket mid the card not sag whatsoever. It is a much better design than any card made today.
yeah same with the 7990 i had. i miss that card soo much! legit best card i have ever had
Super jealous of this build. Love gundam!
Slick idea!!!! Thanks!
"There's a void that needs to be filled"
...
Yeah.
Thank you for the simple fix!
There are other implications with sagging cards. Over time, the PCB its self will warp and cause intermittent failures as the etches crack and solder joints fail. This was an issue some years ago with poorly designed cases causing the motherboards to warp and flex. The other issue too is as the video card sags, this will put stress on the motherboard its self and that will cause etch-failures along the PCI-e slots.
I ran into these kinds of issues a few decades ago, or more now actually (I'm getting old) with various circuit boards I used to repair back when I used to be a board technician.
@@CRSolarice You're absolutely right. It's funny how ideas float around then return.
Back in the olden days, the issue was solved by using a channel to support the PCB along its edge near the front of the case. This worked well until cards were pulled in and out carelessly breaking the plastic channel or popping it out of its mounts. When that occurred, the cards would sag and cause problems with the motherboard such as the ones I mentioned. I ran into many motherboards that had ripped connectors and pulled etches. Sadly, once that occurred it was quicker to scrap the board than it was to repair it which could be done using buss-wire and solder. This latter part wouldn't be possible today due to the high frequencies we find with our computer busses. Back then things were in the Khz and low Mhz range.
The other issue we face today is computers are not all the same size and not all are manufactured in factories like Dell, Lenovo, and HP. Today, we have enthusiasts putting machines together with various sized cases and motherboards, making a one size fits all solution impossible.
@@CRSolarice I'm not much further behind you. I currently have an i7-5860. I agree going for the latest and greatest isn't necessary and I too go for the "new stuff" later usually to let the crowds pay for the hardware development and work the bugs out before I come along and get the stable hardware for a lot less than they paid for it.
Right now, I am looking to replace my system because I lost some USB ports on my motherboard. I powered up my PC and the keyboard and mouse didn't work and neither did my backup drive. I jiggled wires, but that didn't do it. After a second reboot and replaced keyboard and mouse, the system booted, and the hard drive appeared but the system can't find 3 USB ports. My 1080 TI and RAM still works and so do my hard drives. I'll get another motherboard, one with a faster chip and move my RAM, hard drives, and video card over to that.
In the 1970s I was building electronic kits and instead of becoming a music major like I originally planned (parents said NO!), I got into electronics instead. I headed initially to engineering but found tech stuff more fun and eventually landed in the hardware tech field testing and repairing circuit boards until those jobs went overseas. Today, given my eyesight, I'm not even sure I could do it because the components and everything is the size of ants. The stuff I worked with were the typical 70s and 80s equipment with little surface mounted components. I repaired disk drive controllers, modems, video terminals, and all kinds of memory cards, I/O controllers and comms cards. I learned a lot too and came to the conclusion that even the stuff we have today is still the same as yesterday except smaller, faster, and more delicate.
Your concern is a big one because that can ruin the sockets eventually as I saw in the ancient hardware with cards not supported. Some of those systems had what we referred to as board packs. These were multiple boards that plugged into a single one via riser connectors and ribbon cables. This made a heavy pack, about as heavy as those new video cards. Without that extra support on one edge, that would eventually pull out of the socket and sometimes ruin the motherboard or backplane depending upon which style system these were in.
Laying down your case isn't such a bad thing. The problem is It will be absolutely terrible you won't be able to see those blinking lights! We'll have to commiserate over a beer someday on that one. 🙂
@@CRSolarice excellent comment.
i finally got myself a Tuf 3080 and i will totally try this when building my new PC, thank you.
Honestly love the antisag thing in my helios too, very helpful
"See my hand right there, that's where the sag is happening. You have to fill that void". Jay, I try to fill the void everyday it's pretty endless! Ha ha ha.
Definitely an oversight by these GPU manufacturers.
I usually just route the PCIE powercable with enough slack in the front of the case that it acts like a sag bracket when you put the side panel on. With a PSU shroud on the bottom and the panel pushing the cable inward and up it supports the card nicely.
but what happen if i use my pc open...
@@zamfielis thats not smart to begin with
Dunno about first 10 minutes of the video, but the last four and half were pretty useful.
Thank you!
I just did this with my EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra and I got to say it actually works! Not that I ever doubted Jay, but it really didn't look like it was sagging all that much anyway. But doing this pushed it up a couple MM. Nice!
I just got the same card last night, I start building my first pc tomorrow.
In the spirit of this video, doing a legitimate "ez life hacks" for pc building would be pretty neat. You know, just the very basic stuff that can make a decent change to your build/how you go about things, would be neat.
this is actually very useful video!
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