WONDER WOMAN REVIEWED BY KEVIN SMITH
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Marc and Kevin review and discuss the the first ever live action Wonder Woman movie.
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The DCEU was waiting for Gadot.
And Amazon delivered.
KingOfMadCows nothing to be done....
*slow clap*
I'm beginning to come round to that opinion.
Quaquaqua
KingOfMadCows did DC use prime?
"She's always Wonder Woman." Damn Marc, that part was deep brotha. 👍🏽
It was!!
For as much crap as Marvel takes for having made so many movies before having a female led one...they don't really own a character that deserved to be "the first" of this generation. Black Widow and Captain Marvel are cool...but they aren't Wonder Woman. I'm glad the DCEU has its first good film with this one, and this character specifically.
Gooter Hagen - YASSSS 😎🤘
Gooter Hagen
It's true DC women heroes are much more capable of leading a movie about them whereas with marvel they have a few good sidekick females but no real leaders.
+Yankeefan24 The DCEU never needed saving !!! There's no way a 2.4 Billion dollar franchise would need saving !
Gooter Hagen they had Wasp who is a founding member of the avengers, but they killed her off screen...
as someone who likes marvel considerably more I completely agree. 100% no one deserves it more.
The question is...did Kevin cry watching this movie?
timothy willox - Probably 😂
timothy willox
His penis cried milky white tears of joy😂😂✌️
B-dawg8504 IDK if I ought to hit Like or Dislike. Hilarious yet hideous.
timothy willox I teared up and shouted, "You go gurl!"
Did you see Bruce wayne's reaction to the rotten tomato score?
If y'all have seen the animated Wonder Woman movie, that last fight with Ares happened at night. So I wasn't surprised it was at night here.
Katie Herzig your right, she demolished him
I was surprised when they had that guys face under the Ares mask. That was awesome though, just thought he would be entirely CG, with like a black shadow face and red eyes.
Katie Herzig yeah but this movie is better
Regarding Themiscyra's location, given its Greco-Roman origins, it makes sense to be in the Mediterranean, potentially by Asia Minor, so a Semitic accent makes sense.
And Dr. Poison is a classic Wonder Woman villain. She showed up way back in Sensation Comics #2.
Accents morph over time, sure, but "Semitic" can refer to Israelis, Palestinian Arabs, Bedouins, and Assyrians. That's a pretty broad net.
Themiscyra, in Greek myth, was located in Turkey. Close enough.
Yes, doctor poison is among the earliest wonder woman villians.
Her, egg fu, circe, ares, nazis
Patty Jenkins also directed some of the best "The Killing" episodes. So, I always had faith in her
Marc you stated that black people were not in WWI but they were. The most decorated unit there was the 369th called the Harlem Hellfighters. They fought with French troops because the Americans did not want them. The French loved them and awarded them well. So, Black people were there.......big time.
s. elmore sounds like a great movie idea
"big time" nope. Sorry, small time, miniscule time in fact.
France and Germany had black troops as well, among others I'm sure. Colonialism yo. Lots of Indians died fighting for Britain to prove they earned independance and they didn't even get it.
The parties weren't exactly the same 100 years ago.
s. elmore Agreed and not only were there black troops from the U.S., there were black Africans too. There were so many types of people, countries, & battlegrounds in WW1. People just think about the western front trenches but WW1 involved WAY more territory and battles than just that lol.
The Greek mythology side of Wonder Woman is really fascinating. imagine having Zeus as your Father.. that's terrifying lol. I am totally stoked to see this. Seeing it tonight at 10.
I just like saying Patty Jenkins :)
Shane Silver your pic is amazing
Sister-in-arms to Leeroy.
i can never badmouth a fellow Jenkins.
Almost as good as saying Cellar Door ;)
18:25 Kevin: I'm not gonna say who the bad guy is.. Marc: I mean Ares is the bad guy xD I LOVE YOU TWO
Wonder Woman understands that the real enemy is the belief in war which comes from Aries, she has love for humans and knows that if this belief or thought or idea of war is destroyed then humanity is saved
I may be a guy, but I really think Wonder Woman should be the center of the DCEU. Her character is amazing, and I can't wait to watch this!
6 years old and still an absolute beta comment , have some pride ....I have no problem with a female lead being the central focus but the movies were mediocre at best , the supergirl in the new flash movie was 100% more interesting and would deserve these kind of accolades for her performance
Love you guys, so looking forward to seeing this! Will hopefully have my review up for the weekend.
Thank you so much for the improved audio, guys. it does not go unnoticed.
Thank you, Mark. I didn't fully understand why set in in WWI until your very smart explanation; also the Captain America thing, looking at it now, was a given.
That no man's land sequence almost brought me to tears from the swelling of a wide range of emotions, most pride. This is by far one of the best superhero movies I've seen, and depending on how my second viewing goes it might take my top spot.
I remember back when I was a real little kid, and the linda carter WW show was being aired, I would go run around in my yard wearing wonder woman underoos, a lasso made of thick blue fishing line, and paper wrist gauntlets colored with gold crayon. (yes I'm a girl...)
Great review guys! And yes Doctor Maru was in the Wonder Woman comics. And there was no PCS unfortunately!
I have to correct you guys. Ares knew exactly who Diana was the whole time. He even made a statement at the end of the movie that he thought about destroying her when she got to London but decided to use her instead.
will watch wonder woman..quick fact JRR TOLKIEN was in world war 1 and the horrors of the war made him create The Lord of The Rings.
DAVID RAMASES Tolkein World War *2* I think.
DAVID RAMASES although he himself was adamant that Lord of the rings was NOT an allegory for WW1.....
MikeD WW2 not WW1.
listen-John Ronald Reuel Tolkien was in World War 1 and experienced the horrors of the war as a lieutenant...it painted his views about war in his works-especially The Silmarillion,the hobbit and the LOTR..check his biography.
anyway..THIS IS ABOUT Wonder Woman-it was an ok flick..i agree that the last part could have been better.
nope, WW I
hey When are you guys going to finish Iron Fist?? I've been looking forward to seeing it
Hey! You guys have a pixel out on your main camera. It isn't my monitor and it isn't on the Kevincam. It's on the main, a little left and just below center. It's driving me nuts!
When it comes to female superheroes, more than anything, I want to see Miller and Sienkiewicz Elektra Assassin come to life on the big screen. The graphic novel is brilliant and reads like a movie. Great characters too.
Come here specifically to hear Mark's opinion. Love Kevin, but he tends to like everything. Mark gives it to me straight.
I agree for the most part. But, Marc has a soft spot towards diversity. And a bias when he feels there's a lack there of. His Iron Fist hate was way over the top. I think the diversity thing played heavily in his assessment of that show. I don't remember, but I'd bet he gave Ghostbusters (2016) a positive review.
Rollo Tamasi yeah he praised it. I like his straight man approach but the SJW in him comes out sometimes and it's over the top.
I disagree. I think his Iron Fist hate was deserved. IF, compared to other Marvel Netflix shows, was terrible.
That's what I thought before his Iron Fist review. He embarrassed himself there and showed areas where his opinions can be very unobjective and untrustworthy.
He was too hard on iron fist he didn't even finish watching it...
Great review fellas! Just got of out the theater a few hours ago after watching Wonder Woman and I completely agree with what you both had to say. Keep rockin'
Ilya Kuryakin was played by David McCallum, who also starred in the 1975-76 "Invisible Man" series, and has spent more than a decade now as "Ducky" on NCIS.
Have to say, I saw Man From U.N.C.L.E. and I loved it. Agreed it's very underrated! Henry Cavill is DC's best decision yet. Also, I did not want to like King Arthur, but it was a super fun movie, perfect movie for summer time. Enjoyed it way more than I ever thought I would. Love your videos and your reviews guys! Thanks for doing this :)
I,m hearing from a lot of reviews that there are many parallels to Reeves Superman...Which has me double excited.
David McCallum was the other actor in man from uncle, he currently plays doctor Mallard on NCIS
Great review guys. Thank you.
The Amazonians in battle was epic!
Actually Ares said he knew who she was and could have taken care of her earlier but he wanted her to find out for herself that man is not good... how did you missed that? In the comics Ares uses his powers to influence and manipulates.
Marc and Kevin, I've got a couple thoughts to share:
1. I always appreciate how in depth and detailed you guys are in your discussions of your thoughts during movie review episodes. However, I think there's one thing missing from this one. I know you talked about it a little bit, but I really wish you guys had talked more about how you though Gal Gadot did in the role of Diana/Wonder Woman. Personally I think she was fantastic. Diana is an extremely multifaceted character. She's kind, strong, intelligent, emotional, vulnerable, compassionate, fierce, stubborn, optimistic, warm, and a great leader. I think Gal was able to wonderfully embody all of those qualities in a truly believable way.
2. As a young woman, I completely identify with what you guys were saying about how you thought it must feel to be a girl watching this film. I cried tears of happiness watching those amazons defending Themyscira. The only thought running through my head for that whole scene was, "look at all these beautiful, strong women doing these things."
3. I'd definitely fuck Steve Trevor too.
Can't wait to see your Spiderman Homecoming review!
Yo Kevin , when you guys gonna do your season 3 flash review???...can't wait homie!
Yeah doctor poison was at least in wonder woman new 52, and I got the vibe she wasn't new cause they didn't really do a back story.
This female version in the film is from the late 90s.
I could totally see a sequel to Wonder Woman, and have it set in World War II. You could have Circe be the main villain with Giganta alongside as her right hand henchman. You could then bring in Apache Chief/Long Shadow who is playing the part of a Wind Talker unit since Giganta is considered an archenemy to both Wonder Woman and Long Shadow. Just sayin
pity Captain America already covered that war and very well
not really especially seeing that the marvel ultimates universe ( which is what the movie universe was based off of ) totally ignores the secret defenders which cap was a part of int he original comics before hte avengers existed. and lets be honest Most if not ALL comics started just before ww2 Marvel was a latecomer in the 50s DC existed just prior to ww2 i meen shit Sandman is actually older than Batman
3:05 exactly. That Soundtrack does Carry so much of her Character. It is incredible. I'm glad that they picked people for this character and this movie.
Best thing ever was watching my niece. Between the laughing, crying and her eyes just lighting up it was the greatest feeling ever.
If the God killer was destroyed in WW what is the sword she has in BvS?
I still can't get over that No man's land scene. I had goosebumps all over my body. It was so fantastic!!! This movie was really good. Everyone should go see it.
to up the awesome quotient of these reviews and chats, please consider the sound levels. i know it is free content and all so don't listen to my bitchin of course, but guys yall are all over the place. i try to listen like a podcast but i have to keep my hand on the volume the whole time. Marc is always softer than Kevin. both of you turn away from the mics at times and then bust out with something @ 11 and i end up tossing my headphones across the room, cuz loud. i work at a computer and if it is a one hand typing situation, so the other can constantly change sound levels, ahem, and the nsfw language at times, i can't manage that and look like i'm working. and i only have so much private time in a day when i can do it either. just trying to help. help you help me. --all said, i'll keep listening, this would just help me listen more. thanks for all the good you do, sirs.
Kevin, I'm going to keep this short, but just to let you know, I saw Star Wars in 1977, I was 7 at the time: I'm the same age as you, and we share a lot in common in our experiences with entertainment growing up. Apparently a love for Wonder Woman is not one of those things.
I grew up with a younger sister, and we watched the old Wonder Woman show without fail, and we BOTH loved. It. I can honestly say with a straight face and as a straight, married man of 47, I, too, have been waiting mu whole life for this. As soon as I heard today that it was actually a good movie, I called my sister. We rarely get together, but this Saturday we're going to watch Wonder Woman, and we will BOTH be cheering.
Holy Shit, Chris Pine was in Smokin' Aces??...totally missed it
Mike Brown yeah him and Ben Affleck
Mike Brown he was the leader of the crew of whackos that were dressed as the hotel employees
I think Marc's argument against the villains is really stupid, if Ares revealed himself to Diana earlier in the film it would have ruined the twist that Sir Patrick was really Ares and not Ludendorff.
soberchimera61 the villains in this movie sucked ass. I hated them all
What a great review. Have not seen Wonder Woman yet, but have wanted to see it since I heard Gal Gadot was going to play Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. Now after both of your high praise, I definitely want to see it.! Thanks, guys!
25:29 After the credit animatic I told the people who were still seated that there was no after credit scene and got a laugh as I walked out
Wonder Woman 2 should have the furies on the hunt for Wonder Woman for darksied
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I'm soooo happy you mentioned The man from Uncle, because that films was really good!
This is why I love this show. Seeing the viewpoint of a critic meet the viewpoint of a die hard comic book fan. When they come together you really get a great explanation of these things from both sides of the spectrum. Especially in a genre where critics and fans don't always agree.
So the part where Steve Trevor sacrifices to destroy the plane full of poison gas doesn't remember you of when Captain America doies it in his first movie
only superficially. I mean they are both about sacrifice and being on a plane. but the character journey is in fact not the same, also as a pilot it is a logical way for him to handle the situation.
No spoilers its not even out yet
+Kevin Smith just to answer the question Dr. Poison was one of Wonder Woman's earliest villians. First apperiance was in Sensation Comics #2. (1942)
Keep up the good work! Big fan, and love the show
Also, with WWI is also a war she become disillusioned against all wars; and nobody can point to a legitimate evil villain. Were as WWII has a few things you can point to as good reasons for it to be fought.
I'm glad critics and haters finally like a DC movie, still annoyed that they're still throwing crap at the other dceu films, Suicide Squad: Had its flaws but still fun to watch and had some likable characters (Deadshot, Harley, Diablo). BvS: Also many problems but had great memorable scenes (Mad max batman, warehouse scene, Wonder Woman). But MOS: If that movie doesn't move you, then I don't know what will.
Awesome review guys!
man from UNCLE . . . awesome movie!!! And i agree with the King Arthur comments from your podcast . . . It wasnt really the greatest of movies, but it was a great time, the music and the editing really helped round out the film
to me ww1 worked because it was the first world war so of course hades would be responsible so when she defeats him she thinks there will be peace forever then ww2 and the rest of history came around with no hades and she realises mankind is fucked up so why should i help them, hence why she disappears for such a long time.
ManlyPelican Ares*
My bad
ManlyPelican 😜
WELL!!! There was a live action 1974 Wonder Woman movie with hot Cathy Lee Crosby playing Wonder Woman / Diana Prince. Now That's Incredible!
That 1974 deal was a made-for-TV "movie of the week," which means it probably wasn't even long enough to count as a feature film without the padding of commercials. And having seen it, I can testify that its blonde chick in head-to-toe spandex had little relation to Wonder Woman beyond the title.
Agree!!!
I love your reviews, because you guys obviously love movies. Cannot wait to see this.
I think the amazing thing was that the original script they started to shoot with is the one they finished with, no rewrites or reshoots.
I don't want any spoilers, can someone just tell me whether or not they liked it please? I'm probably gonna go see it this weekend either way. Pretty sure it's out by then.
Judging by his other reviews I'm gonna say he loved it and shot loads all over the theater to it
Jack Pepper it's amazing. I saw it at a screening and it's awesome
Man, Kevin shoots more loads than most porn stars. Well shit, I'm looking forward to it even more now. If this is the general consensus then hopefully they can keep it going.
I've seen it TWICE (at a screening AND the LA premiere) and aI can't wait to watch it again (hopefully in IMAX!). I know a lot of guys who liked it. It's a movie everyone can enjoy! The humor is awesome too!
They liked it. Critical of third act. But of course "GO SEE IT" from both gentlemen.
If Wonder Woman is in current time, what happens to Steve Trevor? He's in his 30s in World War I, isn't he? That would mean in todays world he'd be over 100. Even World War II would be 20 years later, that would make him 50. What happens to Wonder Woman's special guy? Does she get a new one for each movie?
Yeah, I was hoping for Chris to come back with his role in the film, as I saw his parts in the trailers. Haven't seen the film, but maybe if something happens to his character and he becomes popular enough, he'll get brought back somehow, for at least the sequel.🙏
Maybe she doesn't have one... :(
Cassie Banks Next movie, she gets a special girl.
Cassie Banks You're gonna be real disappointed when you watch it 😂
Hong Kong Hermit Or Superman!
I watched this vid a few days ago and then saw the movie last night. I came back to watch this again to really 'get' all the hints you gave.
I just saw it yesterday. When the opening musical notes of her theme started as the film started, I realized finally I was getting a Wonder Woman movie and I teared up and was almost sobbing in the theater! So emotional in that moment and just so happy.
And the movie didn't disappoint - so so good. Wow. Gonna see it again.
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I love your reviews, you guys say the things I think most of the time! But I do think Ares knew who Diana was from when he's first introduced to her. That's why he comes to "help" her and Steve, to stay close to her and what they're doing. I didn't like how/what had to happen for her to get that boost of strength to fight Ares but I did love that sequence. I LOVED this movie!!
I took my niece to see this film over the week end and it made me cry not the movie per say ( it was in fact awesome) I cried because I got to watch this little girl see her hero come to life and experience the world of movies and comics in a way that as a white male I have been able to do for a very long time. I remember growing up I got Luke sky walker and Superman and Michael Kenton's batman...etc.. and I loved them all but sharing these things with my sister where hard because she never got to see anyone that represented her as a strong hero. Now here we are me and her daughter seeing wonder woman. for 2 hours and 45 min this little girl is glued to her seat bouncing up and down in her chair every time wonder woman kicks ass on screen. this movie will always be special to me and a very excited 10year old.
When Kevin talks about Cheetah v Wonder Woman I immediately thought of a scene with Bruce.
On the phone
Diana: Hey Bruce there seems to be a 'cat woman' causing trouble.
Bruce: Really Selina's in France
Diana: You know her?
"Rocket Surgeon" why hasn't anyone thought about that?
Deliberate play on words.
"what do you think you are, some kind of Rocket Surgeon or Brain Scientist?"
I dont wanna sound cheesy or whatever, but I AM LOVING THE WORLD REGARDING FEMINISM RIGHT NOW. I mean even these guys are acting like feminists by seeing gal in an equal perspective and respect as themselves. 😀👍🏼👍🏼
33:30 Amen
I was one of those women who had been waiting their whole life to see Wonder Woman on screen. She has been my favorite Superhero since I was 4 years old. Lynda Carter came to a mall by our house and I made my mother go and get her autograph. I cried when I saw No Man's Land... That was the Wonder Woman I always wanted to see. I am so happy that all the little girls growing up today have this movie....and have this Wonder Woman!!!
I'm glad to hear that DC is getting one right finally. I was getting ready to switch to just waiting for the home release of each film. Will definitely have my butt in a seat this weekend. Thanks for the great review.
Also Mark, how did you feel about the Blade film series? I enjoyed the first and loved the second, the third was meh. I know it was years ago but did the film have a feeling of representation like WW or BP?
Amazons are Greek. Gal's accent isn't too dissimilar to the Greek accent.
Bruce Wayne the good ole 'vague ethnic' accent
Exactly
Yeah but in Greek legends, Amazons were considered completely crazy and evil; their stories used Amazons as villains in the way we use Orcs or Stormtroopers as villains that can be killed without remorse. So it is OK they changed some things for the Amazons, and Gal doesn't have to sound Greek IMO.
unicyclepeon no they weren't maybe read Greek mythology they were beautiful strong warrior woman they were evil or villainous
unicyclepeon: You are wrong, you should read up on the Ilias.
is this spoiler free?
I'm only half way through and it's full of spoilers. Don't watch if that bothers you.
BushidoBrownSama Not really I turned it off after they just blasted through a few scenes from the movie
Thx guys I decided to play it safe and I stopped before I could get spoiled but now I have seen the movie and I'm quite happy I did
+BushidoBrownSama You're welcome. I usually don't like spoilers but I doubt I'll see this before it hits disc format, so anything here will be long forgotten by then.
What did you think of WW? No spoilers of course, just the general feeling you got from it. :-)
lwaves I love it. The first DCEU movie I loved (MoS was close but it has some issues.)
Ilya Kuriakin was played by David McCallum. Ducky on Ncis,..
ON the accent: I thought the same thing. They all had to fake it for Gadot and I think it worked out well.
Love your review. Awesome work.
I think Mongol would make a great villain in a stand alone man of steel movie!
or parasite.
Lucas Henn cyborg supes & mongol... blow up coast city... give us GL stinger after credits... scream
Marc's opinion is what I'm here for
I'm glad you recognized Chris Pine's SmokingAces performance. It was great 😎
Awesome Review Guys!!!!
I can guarantee that this movie will not be as pleasurable as the Brazzers parody coming out later in the year.
cumming soon
More like later this week...amirite
Blindman AI One can only hope.
Brazzers make awful parodies. They get good costumes but the scripts are crap and porn stars look gross. Someone will probably make a good Wonder Woman porno but it won't be Brazzers.
Diana on top the whole time with bondage or gtfo.
I saw it at the fan screening last Wednesday
8.5/10 from me!
@markbernandin Black soldiers played a very important part on the front in world war one; especially in French Service where the Senegalese Tirailleurs were some of the best soldiers France had. This was recognized by the French generals, especially Charles Mangin how advocated using Senegalese for their martial qualities. Towards the end of the war France was even deploying integrated units with blacks and whites. In German service a german army consisting mainly of native east african's held off the british empire for years despite being heavily outnumbered and attacked from all sides. The story of Lettow-Vorbeck and the Indigenous Askaris fighting for so long at impossible odds does need a movie.
I loved the scene in the train station when she tasted ice cream for the first time. They had to have pulled that straight from the Wonder Woman animated film. I was so so happy to see that. The movie was awesome!
Guys!!! Why would you do a spoiler review before the general public has a chance to see the movie?
still no The Defender's Trailer Review
marcs review of the defenders trailer will be something like I thought daredevil looked good was impressed with luke cage and Jessica jones but iron fist ruined it by being white but I only watched the first 30 seconds but I could tell
I saw Men fron UNCLE and it was awesome!!
Also, Arthur was really cool. Loved his editing
Whos the second line director?
Wonder Woman 1 = WWI; Wonder Woman 2 = WWII. Dr. Psycho and Hades should be a big part of it the sequel, honestly.
I don't like the idea of using Hades. Use Phobos or Deimos. Not only is there a connection, but Hades has been done to death (wink, wink).
Dan S i would like her to come home and find out some bad shit went down
3 top female action heros: 1. Ripley from aliens 2: Gena davis from long kiss goodnight 3: The bride from kill bill. Just my opinion.
Jason Fullerton I'd probably add Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2
Jason Fullerton OMG someone else did like LONG KISS GOODNIGHT! I thought I was the only one!
Vanessa Robertson IKR?
Jason Fullerton Charlize theraton
the young girl from the film chocolate is far the best action hero. female tony jaa and wicked film imo . chocolate 8/10
i have a feeling Snyder directed the end fight. It had his fingerprints all over it. It was awesome.
Agreed with Marc, that scene in the village in Belgium was such an awesome sequence, this film was awesome
Spoilers so early? are you fucking kidding me?
There was a warning and a 5 second delay. If you got it spoiled, it's your own damn fault.
good to see DC finally put out something good after DKR...
Adrian St. Fort You're basing all this on movie you haven't even seen?
Why are you writing a 3 paragraph rant about a movie you have yet to see?
Emilio Barzini This entire universe cinematic universe has been a train-wreck so far, & anyone who can't see that are passengers. Wonder Woman getting better buzz than the previous installments is a good thing, & it IS because the previous installments have been heaping piles of shit. This is a GOOD thing.
WW>MoS>BvS UE > SS EXT
Well, the quality of that is definitely debatable (I don't think it's very good, myself, but it's okay).
I agree with you kev on the beach seen. I'm an old girl, and I was so teary eyed watching Princess Buttercup, and ALL the amazons training and kick ass. 😭 So good
Very well done gentlemen!