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That theory on Jyn being Leia is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
How the hell did this Theory came to be ?
I would've agreed with you that that is the dumbest idea ever, until ten seconds ago when I saw someone here thinks this movie is better than The Force Awakens.
PutItAway101 Because it is ;)
The force awakens was bad,,, not the turd that was episode I, but sadly the Force Awakens was a terrible wasted opportunity.. it played it safe, served the fans, and had a terribly written cloned story of a New Hope.
Titken Toft Hadn't even heard that until now but oh my God at the stupidity
Vader scene was so good holy crap
They finally showed Vader annihilating his enemies. He laid waste to that corridor full of rebel soldiers.
It completely made up for the Prequels, fuck we finally get to see why Vader was so feared.
the lightsaber scene was badass but the first one had that lame snarky pun "dont choke on your aspirations."
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
Justin Thompson Rewatch the originals Vader always had low key jokes "I find your lack of faith disturbing" "apology accepted captain Needa" etc....
Justin Thompson OOH and when the Imperial officer on the tantive-IV says "she'll die before she tells us anything" Vader says "leave that to me " lol
I loved Donnie Yen in this movie. "Are you kidding me? I'm blind!"
If he's actually a Shaman of the Whills, he comes from a very important group that preserved the knowledge of the Force for the Jedi over the years. Plus, he's from the faction who taught Qui-Gon Jinn how to achieve immortality ( through force ghost/spirit) and communing with living force sensitive light side users, such as Luke, after death. Who in turn taught Yoda, who in turn taught Obi-1, you get the picture by now, I hope.
Really loved him too! Hope to see him in other spin offs, his character was so great!
What was his characters name? Don't use google.
Chirrut Imwe. Can we have his origin movie instead of young Han Solo?
we dont need his name we know him as "I am one with the force and the force is with me"
That Vader scene when he Slays fucking 20-30 guys as he makes his way down the hall way will put Gareth Edwards in the history book forever if nothing else does lol that was the most brutal showing of a movie villain just annihilating dudes and portraying full on power. I don't think anything I see from now on will ever give me the same reaction I got seeing that for the first time ever again haha!
That scene alone was worth the price of the ticket.
I'm just amazed how one scene of pure fanservice has gotten so many people excited.
JAL90 because people have wanted to see that for like 30+ years lol
Daniel 1 most people only watch the movies so seeing that for the first time is why it was so insane plus it's just more intense on screen in a movie theater haha
Yea considering back in the first 3 movies, we can't exactly see him this brutal, especially because how frail the lightsabers were.
Seeing Vaders charred nugget body in that tube was disgustingly awesome
Kutlu Mızrak I was relieved
Dylan Humphrey did you see his face? I'm starting to wonder if I saw a cut. I just saw the back of his head for barely a second.
Russ Anthony you see the side of his head for a second, and it's all fucked up
Sounds like that is what I saw. was over really quick. I blinked and missed it
+Kutlu Mızrak if they showed his face in this it would have ruined ROTJ's helmet removal scene. Was a good call.
As much as many of us don't like the prequels, you have to admit, Bail Organa stepping out of the shadows was a nice touch, too.
I squealed when at his reaction shots in the movie. Kinda feels like a shared universe kind of thing.
... dude, it *IS* a 'shared' universe :-/
Ping Floyd indeed it was
Especially with the red eyes and his Sith robes. You have to admire his patience for waiting until Episode 8 to destroy everything.
I don't admit that. Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa was a terrible casting choice, and seeing him in this movie just reminds me that the prequels will always be around. Forever. They can never be undone.
Just watching A New Hope, and I realized that Jyn and Cassian having to "upload" the file to the fleet actually fits better with the story in A New Hope because at the beginning of Ep. 4 when Vader is choking that dude on the Rebel ship, he asks "Where are the transmissions you intercepted? What have you done with those plans?" So yeah, George Lucas meant for the Death Star plans to have been transmitted wirelessly at some point, and Rogue One nailed it.
Intercepted, meaning from an Imperial sender to Imperial receiver, but the Tantive IV got the message instead of the Imperial receiver. Also, in A New Hope its pretty ambiguous and Vader only knew they received the transmission, not who had the plans or what Leia was really up to. From the ending of Rogue One, the Tantive IV is clearly seen jumping to hyperspace fleeing Vader's arrival, so they knew exactly who has the plans and that all on board are apart of the Rebel Alliance. So there would be no point in boarding the ship, they could just destroy it to keep the plans from falling into Rebel hands.
I agree with your second point, but I think you're being a bit pedantic about the word "intercepted". Jyn and Cassian simply sent out the transmission blind with no actual receiver in mind. So anyone who received it can be said to have "intercepted" it.
In any case, my point was more that the files were transmitted wirelessly at all according to Ep. 4 since Kevin was acting like Rogue One was going out of its way to appeal to kids or something by having them "upload" the file.
you are correct.
Yep. Continuity be damned. It is also evident in the original film that Vader has been tracking down leads and interrogating prisons to develop a link between Leia and the Alliance. That is how he knows where to intercept her on her "diplomatic mission".
Bryon Lape Not sure how evident any of that is from A New Hope. We may have assumed it, but the movie doesn't explicitly say how Vader found the Tantive IV.
Also, at the end of Rogue One, Vader is just standing there as the Tantive IV goes to lightspeed. He still has to return to the Devastator before they can even give chase. It could have been days before they finally track them down. He also never saw Leia on the ship or even know the name of her ship, and the Rebels presumably have multiple ships of the same type, so their insistence that they have nothing to do with the stolen plans works as a sort of desperate, last-second attempt to get away. It's obviously futile, but why wouldn't they try lying to Vader?
There's enough wiggle room there that the continuity works.
Rogue One is what The Force Awakens Should have been.
I teared up at the end because the very last word of the movie is spoken by Leia:
"What does this mean?"
"Hope."
-Cue A New Hope-
Fucking masterful.
Shroomly same but mainly because of leia
Shroomly
we've already heard about hope a lot during this movie. I so wanted to hear Leia say "A new hope."
was completely cheesy and forced
Jeff Dietz
You're right and so was the inclusion of Darth Vader, and droids, and stars. So forced and clearly just a nod to nostalgic fanboys.
If you are really comparing those two things, you just don't get it. As with most of this storyline it was stupid, lame, and forgettable. Vader's scenes actually added to the pitiful storyline of yet another story about the damn death star. Vader's scene of kicking ass in the hallway ties it back to the beginning of of episode 4, where the Leia scene, we never really needed to see it. Was just a way to throw in their little CGI face replacement technology.
The scene of Vader in the tank might have been the most interesting of the entire movie and we only got a glimpse of it. After all, how could we spend any time on that, or any character development and take away from the non ending 2hours and 10 mins of non stop action and stuff blowing up?
This was basically Independence Day: Resurgence, but with a massively better cast of actors.
Fucking hell Jyn Erso being Princess Leia would have been horrendous lol
John Castillo yeah I thought that was a very bad idea
Harry Jackson Only these two guys would think that would actually be a good idea lol
John Castillo yeah that would be a twist based on her being a different actress. So stupid
It would've completely undersold the movie if that actually happened.
A total slap in the face. The ending was perfect as it is.
Jyn Erso being Princess Leia is the stupidest idea after Greedo shooting first.
When they showed the WHY Luke could just take out the Death Star from her watching her father's video message, I lost it. I'll be honest... I cried when that dad died.;... freakin brilliant.. This was the very first movie I ever saw in a theater, so bringing my kids to see this and then having my youngest say "can we watch the one you saw when you were young now" after it was done.... yeah... Wicked Happy to be 40 something and serious memories I could share with my own children.
That's a beautiful memory. Movie so good it helped your Star Wars experience come full circle in every way.
A lot of reviewers say the characterization was lacking in Rogue One. Bullshit. The entire Rogue crew was amazing. The chemistry between them all was top notch especially between Cassian and Jyn...and no it is not any romantic crap. But rather two people with very different view points finding common ground. The other members have smaller roles but it works because they are instantly likeable anyways. This is ultimately a plot driven movie and rightly it should be. We don't need to know how Blase and Chirrut became friends. They were a great duo. Kinda a bad ass Odd Couple. But in the end the movie is about the death star plans. Besides it is only a matter of time before they make supplemental material for the movie. I definitely would not mind a Cassian comic book. Or a Bodhi novelization. These characters were exactly what they needed to be. And if you are worried about SJWs and feminazi writing? Don't. Every character is critical and very humanized. If only Gareth Edwards did the sequel trilogy. Rian Johnson is gonna have to create a miracle out of the mess JJ Abrams left him with. Rogue One rules.
Who is Jyn, Cassion, or Bodhi? This is a legitimate question not trying to be difficult. I don't understand who they are and why they make the choices they make. I liked the movie, but I think the characters are lacking.
Ian Smart Jyn was the daughter of the man who built the death star weapon. Cassion was a rebel who dirty his hands for the cause. Bodhi was an imperial pilot who defected. Jyn's motive is her love for her father. Bodhi acts out of desire to do right. Cassion is filled with shame and regret and wants his life to mean something. We know a good bit of these characters actually.
Lance Smith No i got you. It's not that I don't understand why on the surface they do what they do. It's like underlying things we never get a grasp on. I wish I could learn more about How conflicted Bodhi might have felt about defecting but how Galen's words really resonated. I didn't completely get why Jyn was so turned around to be on the rebellion's side by the end which is kind of sudden to me and maybe a little bit of background on Cassion and what he felt about the rebellion vs the empire (since both seem to do questionable things) just to get at some kind of deeper meaning about how both sides can be corrupt depending on perspective.
Sorry, I didn't mean to create waves. I liked the movie, and I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. Good to have star wars in with multicultural leads really.
Ian Smart I want to know more about the characters too. But I think it would be better to have that kind of heavy characterization in a novel or comic book rather than the movie.
I don't really care about how diverse the cast is. Their skin color or ethnicity was never that important to me because they were fascinating characters portrayed by a very talented cast. The only time race should ever matter in a movie is when portraying actual people. Like honestly I cannot stand those people who complain about the main lead being a girl. Like why give a fuck? A good character is a good character. I didn't think Finn was awful because he was black. I just didnt like his character. It's like seriously we are all just people.
I did read the book Catalyst before going to watch the movie and it laid great groundwork for Galen Erso and gave his character depth. you know going into the movie his relationship with Krennick. But that is about it..
From what Saw was saying in the movie he raised Jyn from the time Galen was taken until she was 16. I think it would have been great to know about those years. That would've at least given us more depth on the lead character.
I agree with mrsticky. Having some comics or novels come out with background on those characters would be perfect. I can understand they wanted to keep the plot line/characters mostly under wraps but now that the movie is out it would be perfect to build upon the members in Rogue One.
I think Chirrut (blind badass) would have an extremely interesting backstory personally.
1:22:36 when they talk about Vader
THESNEAKERADDICT not all heroes wear capes.
but the good villains do
I recommend watching the whole thing, that darth vader talk was the boring part of this. even though it was an amazing scene,
THANK YOU!
Oh, and for those who watch Rebels.
"GENERAL SYNDULLA, REPORT TO THE BRIEFING ROOM."
Paul Grant oh shit, that's awesome. Haven't seen the movie yet, but it's cool to hear that there are Rebels Easter eggs. I saw the Ghost in one of the tv spots.
Nathaniel Larkin why are you here if you haven't seen it! haha.
keep an ear out for it, it's just a background announcement at the base on yavin
I guess it's rebels spoilers... hera doesn't die :')
Paul Grant lol. I came to ask the people of the comments specific questions. I only want to know certain things, not spoil the whole movie.
Got a little chuckle when i heard that...nobody with me knew who that was.
I watch rebels but uh who's syndulla again? Lol
1:30:32 "You know who's life just got more difficult? Rian Johnson."
Sigh.
Watching this review when it originally came out. I had no idea just how prophetic Kevin's observation would be...
And Rian just said “I don’t care I’m gonna make it trash anyway.” Lol
They should do Rogue One and A New Hope double features, that'd be crazy.
Great idea ;-)
My buddy and I watched ANH right after seeing Rogue One. We were both surprised at how well they work as a pair. With a little trimming in some places, they could easily work as Parts 1 and 2 of the same story.
trust me the last you want to do is pair them up because than people will see how fucking shit Rogue one truly is
+MisterMetokurInternetArisotcratJim81Jim Archives rogue one was better than 4
Probably be a lil underwhelming given the giant difference in FX and pace.
Why would you feel let down that Jyn Erso wasn't Leia?? That sounds like totally stupid idea.
Blackjack 4nia yeah i don't get that at all. Would Jynn Erso be wearing a mask? not too mention she's a completely different body shape to Princess Leia
completely stupid lol. but thats what ppl get when they search the net for spoilers & shit. Then they have the nerve to be mad when the actual film doesnt turn out to be like the crack pot fan theory they read about.
I feel let down that Jyn was a completely unlikable character. When she dies at the end, why care? Not that it matters if she's developed at all because everyone should have known going in that basically everyone would die at the end.
Josi Davanee No, they said that in Jedi about the second death star, the many Bothans who died to bring the info
Can we just hire these two to do DVD commentary of every movie ever? Like they did with original Batman? I seriously want this with pretty much every movie.
Their batman commentaries are hysterical I still regularly watch them they need to do more commentaries
redhotchilifan98 honestly i think his commentaries for batman are some of his best work. i mean that. they are histerical and entertaining. i listen to them with the movie all the time
Just saw Rogue One. This was the quality of film I had hoped Force Awaken would have been but ultimately was not. Rogue One is right up there with the best Star Wars films ever in the series. I think the reason it came off so well is because it actually is it's own film without relying on cliches of the past films. No repackaging, just a story set in the Star Wars universe well done and oh so fresh. You actually cared about the characters. K-2SO is a good representation of the approach of this film, not assuming you should like something because it was in previous films or is cute and will sell a lot of toys but rather an original approach where you like it for it's own uniqueness and merits. My only complaint of Rogue One is near the end you get the cliche' bad guy monologue instead of just shooting which of course gives the good guys chance to kill the bad guy, blah, blah, we've seen it a thousand times before and it still makes no sense. At any rate thumbs up on Rogue One. J.J. Abrams should not be allowed to touch another Star Wars film (or Star Trek film) and just do what he's good at, braindead action films.
What about that Wax Figure Tarkin? I loved Cushing back in the orig and hearing how he was lookin I gave it a full chance but NOPE he was jarring and strangely distracting should of spent an extra million on how he spoke and moved. Should of just had turn and pivot lookin out of the big windows
So this
Agreed. This was soooo much better than TFA.
I'm not too hard on Force awakens because it ultimately showed everyone that Disney could do a Star Wars movie, right the wrongs of the prequels, and at the same time, bring in new people to the franchise. It was a good introduction to the new Star wars universe under Disney. It was very successful in what it was trying to accomplish. Rogue one shows just how dark they are willing to go. Both films had its flaws, but both films show how committed Disney is to making great Star wars movies. I was worried at first when I heard Disney was buying the Star Wars franchise. Now i'm stoked as hell to see future installments of this new Disney acquisition.
Honestly I don't think Disney proved they can do a Star Wars film. They proved the can copy a Star Wars film(s) and add enough new elements to sell it as a new film. Rogue One is on a completely different level than Force Awakens. Its like the difference between making money being the focus of a movie and artistic expression being the focus of a movie.
I just spent an hour and a half listening to two guys re tell the movie I just saw last night. What is wrong with me
You must be JarJar Binks.
Bret Richter It was good, I am unsure of how I feel about it right now but am reserving judgement. Im going to see it again :)
Gets so much better the second time and that is saying something...Hot tip, actually listen really carefully to every piece of dialogue and watch the eyes of the characters...When you tune in to all dialogue the characters seemed way more fleshed out, especially Bohdi, Chittwe etc...Hope you like it more the next time....
maybe you needed to hear some people justifying this hugely flawed movie to point of you bactually believing it was that good. It was no where close to empire and, the story lacked, there where no memorable characters, every emotional scene just fell flat and everything else was just fan service. It was an okay movie, but nowhere as good as these two claim it to be. Kevin Smith can't be trusted when it comes to reviews, especially star wars related reviews.
But Kevin Smith directed the masterpiece that is YogoHosers. Kevin smith is god. This movie had everything in Star Wars that I remember. Do you remember Star Wars? I do!
Three emotions during Vader's scene: Total awe, Fanboy glee, and shit-your-pants terror. AT ONCE.
that Vader scene at the end where he kills everybody in the room was just badass
John Lizotte This film makes ANH even better!
The video starts at 6:43.
They literally spend 6 minutes selling you underwear.
thecianinator thank u
I'm past 14 minutes and they still haven't talked about anything
pedants, pedants are counting.
Dammit, I didn't read this comment until after the six minutes of underwear talk. Thanks anyway.
thecianinator I love you
The best part about this movie was It wasn't about some dumb family lineage or prophesy but Instead it represented what Star Wars is all about: hope against an unstoppable evil and the sacrifice needed to keep that hope alive.
John Helf actually Star Wars IS all bout family lineage. Duh
That Vader scene though?! Straight out of Lords of the Sith. And the CGI... we're a few years away from destroying the uncanny valley.
fuuuucking loved it! still smiling from ear to ear :)
how have you already seen it?
matthew ponton UK midnight screening :)
emil Straight out of Lords of the Sith exactly how I imagined it!
it came out here today :D
Sorry DC, this is a movie about the real Suicide Squad.
LOL!! indeed!
You nailed it.
"Rogue One" is a masterpiece. Together with "The Empire Strikes Back" , the best "Star Wars" movies.
They’re also my two favorites.
@@paulipaz Nice to hear! 👍👍
call me a nerd, but I was so happy seeing blue milk on the table in jyns house
Florian Miller You're not a nerd. You're a nerf herder.
Florian Miller A scruffy looking one at that
Florian Miller Half witted as well
Was more like green milk, but close enough.
When Vader started fighting at the end, I almost screamed. It was sooooo badass
I was so giddy I couldn't stop laugh/crying
Makes a change then the new hope scene with just one choke hold he goes apeshit lol
Explains why Vader calls Leia on her bull when she says she's on a diplomatic mission.
when I die I want my headstone to have a HD flat-screen installed in it with that Vader hallway scene playing on an eternal loop
Sounds like they finally figured out how to do a prequel.
Here's my take on the whole "Force Awakens vs Rogue One" argument: If you remove Han Solo and Chewbacca from The Force Awakens, you would be left with a movie that's really not worth revisiting. Remove a few characters from Rogue One and you still have a pretty solid film worth revisiting. Rogue One > Force Awakens
Tommy R. I dunno about that. I think Rey and Finn are pretty interesting and the cameo of Luke at the end is amazing. I'm still processing Rogue one.
Force Awakens may have touched on familiar themes but it still had good characters. Force Awakens is a saga film. R1 is an anthology film. Despite them both being in the SW universe you can't really compare them because they serve vastly different elements of the canon. Both of these films did their one job.
For me at least, Han and Chewbacca were the highlights of Force Awakens. Finn and Rey were entertaining but Harrison Ford was the star imo. Finn was comic relief but his character made no sense. He's a pacifist Stormtrooper who worked in maintenance but he can take on skilled warriors in combat and screams with joy when he opens fire on a bridge full of his own Imperial comrades? Huh?
Nah. The lead of TFA actually has character development, you get invested in Rey and her plight and adventures and care what happens to her. She makes TFA and of course the little cameos here and there are nice fan service but without them, it's still a good film with a strong lead. FA has zero character who have any development and are basically there like horror movie victims...simply lined up to be slaughtered.
FA was a remake of 4 and 5 and too family friendly for my taste
Nobody ever mentions Red Leader? He looked and sound, and I could swear it looked like they took cut footage and remastered it and inserted it, but I could swear that's the same Red Leader from A New Hope.
It is. They had to have done that since he would be at least in his 70's by now. Creepy af.
they cut and pasted it. lol it took me out of the movie.
Why creepy? More like fucking awesome
Mr. Success I meant creepy in a good way.
GuanThwei LP They did the same thing with Gold Leader and the female pilot from Episode I.
5 years later i’m here watching this review. and now i’m going to watch rogue one again for the 5th time. such a great review from two true og fans.
also Kev talks about how empire is the best star wars. it’s the bar in theory. where does he see mandalorian in reference to empire? i know he loves mando. but just curious
You know you're in the presence of nerd legends when their review of a movie is almost as long as the movie itself.
6:43 to skip the whole underpants ad rant. Come on Bluntman :P
Thank you. That stuff was about as amusing as a school bus plowing through a bunch of pre-schoolers.
How dare they make a little scratch to pay people and cover expenses (and maybe buy some Gummy Bears)?! Give us our free content and go out of pocket doing it, guys! AMIRITE?
Angelo Barovier Haha yeah but man, 5min of it? Skip much needed
Yeah! Fuck all you undies-pimping haters! It's not like Kevin Smith is ACTUALLY fucking your ass before you get to hear his review.
Well, fair enough, Zed. Mind you, these guys could talk about a stick of butter if the mood takes them. We like 'em *because* they ramble and riff. I mean, I do, anyway. YMMV.
This film made me cry at least five times.
Spoilers, obviously, if you're on this video, you should have already seen the film:
-I am really glad I read Catalyst before seeing the film, because Lyra's death at the start hit really hard due to it.
-The CGI Tarkin and Leia were phenomenal, and also K2SO looked real to me.
-I thought all the main characters were going to die, but I was still so shocked when it actually happened.
-Vader's scene at the end was great.
-Was that Vader's castle that was going to be in the original trilogy that we saw?
-Bail Organa going home to Alredraan, though.
-Did Marc keep saying Saul Guerrero?
FUCK I NEED TO SEE THIS FILM AGAIN NOW.
Paul Grant it still makes me tear up talking about it. I KNEW what had to happen but by the end of the movie I was NOT prepared for it.
EVEN K2.
_We knew_ what had to happen, but I was still sitting there screaming in my head "SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAVE CASSIAN AND JYN." but no.
and something about the way Bodhi went out was so so heartbreaking.
God damn. I can barely talk coherently about this stuff right now.
Just a few points related to your post.
- I loved both Vader scenes, and yes, I think that was the castle that was in Lucas' original story treatment of "The Star Wars."
- There were so many amazing planets and environments, and it all felt so real. CGI has come a long way, even since EP3. On that note...
- The CGI faces were amazing in my opinion. My mom didn't even know who Tarkin was, and was surprised when I told her he was CGI.
- The Leia scene caught me off guard and was amazing. A lot of people online are complaining that she and Tarkin looked bad, but I thought they looked incredible.
I like to compare this movie to Halo Reach. A small band of fighters sacrifice themselves so the Heroes can carry on saving the day in the next installment. Reach was the direct prequel to Halo 1. Rogue One was the direct prequel to Star Wars.
Love this story and the way everything was handled. It might be my favorite Star Wars movie ever. Certainly top 3.
Paul Grant I left depressed knowing that this characters will never show up again. I was hoping for the robot to make it thru but he is the first one to go wtf! and the most memorable imo.
Made me cry too! No opening crawl, no SW theme, terrible soundtrack..
RIP Carrie. To say you will be missed is an understatement.
Personally I thought rogue one was better than force awakens
It was better than ALL of them ...
@@Nautilus1972 I agree
It’s been 4 years since Rogue One & I still agree with this comment!
Just seen it, totally agree.
seeing darth vader crush the rebels is the most joy ive felt in my life! :D :D :D
emil that sequence was amazing, I would say the best depiction of Vader's skills and brutality on film.
Toby Kirkby Was great. Like one dude was playing Vader in Battlefront then thought, "huh...let's put this to film". Lol.
emil That Vader scene at the end brings new meaning to his line at start of Ep IV, "There will be no one to stop us this time"
I've never been so happy to see good guys get slaughtered.
DrZaious Rogue One actually enhances A New Hope...that's a tough thing to do.
Near perfect movie. So many amazing moments! And it tied up with a New Hope within minutes of difference.
My only let down was the score. Just a generic John Williams knockoff. I've heard tons of generic Star Wars-y music from the games.
Dimitri Bitu Walked out, immediately watched episode 4 intro. So good
I'm not sure I liked that they linked up, as epic as that final scene was. It's too tonally different.
JazGalaxy I thought it was done great...loved it
JazGalaxy it's another movie, made by another director and crew, done 40 years later. of course it will be different
Dimitri Bitu tbf, the composer had less than one month to score the film. Even Williams, the greatest of all time, might not have been able to pull that off.
Give the score another try. There are certainly some pieces I love, ESPECIALLY "Hope"
I literally cant stop thinking of that Vader scene.. My jaw dropped watching that scene.. It was what i wanted to see and better than whag i could imagine.
It was the only good part of the movie. The rest was predictable and boring
Why do you want to see game mode Vader?
Best action of any Star Wars movie. The final battle was epic
Savor it's not what we're use too in the Star Wars movies but thought making this movie makes a new hope even better
I think the action mainly in ROTS, ESB and possibly AOTC (especially the final 40 mins) or ROTJ had the best action out of the SWs movies...
You know what I appreciate about Kevins channel? The time stamps for content. I can skip to any point in the video I want and listen to the content I want without having to skip around. I dig that.
the END of the movie made it for me, greatest ending I have ever seen
Why does he keep calling it Episode 0 when it is clearly Episode 3.5?
tylergirl1970 I thought the same thing...lol...Also, Jedha is moon not a planet. Both of them keeps calling it that planet...lol
Because episode 1-3 were shit and shouldn't have existed
Tabletop Champs Lol! It wasn't that bad....lol!... I got only one word for you Jar Jar Binks...😂😂😂😂 ....I am kidding, it was horrible. In alternate universe where everything is other way around, Hayden Christensen would get Oscar for his role in Attack of the Clones. Anyway, we can't compare Rogue One to those movies because it is unparallel to anything I have seen in recent years. Even Force awaken doesn't come close. That's just my opinion
Because Episodes 1-3 should be deleted from history and memory, those films suck ass. Disney needs to delete those from canon.
tylergirl1970 more like episode 3.95
I was half way through the video before I noticed marks shirt wasn't a MLB shirt
this movie is much better than The Force Awakens
does Kevin ever give bad reviews he likes everything and every movie takes him back to his childhood
supremejoseph I just think Kevin doesn't review things he doesn't like. Which makes sense I mean he's been in the business and probably has a lot of friends still making movies and doesn't want to shit talk anyone. That and he's been on the receiving end of bad reviews (some of them unjust but I digress) and knows how bad they can hurt. Kevin likes to be positive and optimistic and I really respect that
ctsteelers97 he shit talks about people all the time bruce willis and how do he knows if a movie is good until he sees it Ive never seen him shit talk a movie he's seen
supremejoseph Well Bruce Willis and that's about it and that's totally justified. And you're last question doesn't make any sense. It's not like he's reviewing movies he hasn't seen.
ctsteelers97 it does make sense just went above your head
supremejoseph Ok I understand but we don't know what he's seen. He could've seen Collateral Beauty this weekend and chooses not to talk about it
You know why this doesn't feel like a SW "Saga" movie?...Because the Stormtroopers actually hit stuff.
lol
You know why it doesn't actually seem like a movie? Because it isn't. Lol, people are so easily fooled.
Dark Vader does a Daredevil hallway scene
Exactly
And Daredevil does an 'oldboy' hallway scene. Seriously-if u havent, check it out, I think it was intended as a homage because its so blatant
Also Oldboy (original version)
I love that K-2SO gets to almost say, "I have a bad feeling about this".
You let her keep it?!?! (Dejected voice full of hurt feelings)
janiebnl he does say it...ive watched the movie twice now and i made sure to listen closely the second time, and K2 does say the full line...its just that Jyn talk over him and we get the impression that he stopped talking, but he didnt
I hope to GOD you're right. I was genuinely pissed when my ears heard the line get cut off.
Yeah, then they told him to "shut-up", so as not to embellish on the nostalgia line too much, lol...
So gooooooood! Leia, Tarkin, Blue Milk, Probe Droid, Red Leader, Gold Leader! Y-wings, Star Destroyers Crashing OMG!!!! Had the time of my life!
John Pereira those are literally the same words I used when exiting the theater!!
I missed the Probe Droid!! 😟 where was it?
I cried at the end of this movie it was tears of joy
Skip to 6:44 - Smith just sells out to some crappy underwear store up until this time.
It's called advertisement dip ship. They pay him to advertise their product.
Everything Comics it's still a 6 minute ad of underwear
Lucasfilm/Disney would be crazy not to do a solo Vader film after this.
Can you imagine a pseudo-adaptation of the Vader Down comic series, him being stuck in unfamiliar territory (maybe with a bounty hunter or Stormtrooper) just fucking mowing through enemies like hot butter?
crazyrabbits I think we've already had Vader solo movies. They're called Episodes 2 and 3
If they did an adaptation of the new Vader comic books from Marvel .... OMG that would be amazing.
This wouldn't be two straight hours of slaughter, the comics follow Vader in trying to regain his master's respect after the failure at Yavin. He goes full into conspiracy/manipulation mode, trying to play the empire like his fiddle to get back into power.
Forging shaky alliances with criminals, fucking robbing the empire to fund his own power grab and all the while trying to outmaneuver a Sherlock-level genius investigator.
I would frickin love this to pieces, that comic is glorious.
We were told in the Prequels that Anakin was not only powerful, but also rather smart. But Lucas never showed it. Would be a great way to redeem the guy.
But "The Purge: Last Stand of the Jedi" would also work, with some Jedi trying to escape from Vader (maybe even fight him9 and all dying in a bloody mess. They could even throw in cameos by Ahsoka and Quinlan Vos or characters from the Dark Times comic, like they snuck in references to Rebels in here.
sertaki I agree with you the Vader comic is great but we've had like 2 trilogies that had Darth Vader as the main character. I would rather they make standalone's of characters that didn't get very much attention
Unfortunately no. Vader wouldn't work in a solo movie. Vader isn't in Episode 4 for more than 15 to 20 minutes at best. Empire & Jedi slightly longer but again barely 20 minutes at the most he's there but as an ominous presence at the most in the sequel films of the original trilogy.
Unless its; videogames, comic books or novels. Vader works best in smaller doses. sad but true. Too much Vader is a bad thing! The old saying goes; you can't have too much of a good thing!
Was anyone else reminded of Planet Druidia from Spaceballs when they saw the giant shield surrounding Scarif? If only the Rebels knew the combination was 1-2-3-4-5, so many lives could have been spared.
As the film ticked along I kept thinking "Damn it's good, please don't ruin it with something bs"
And then Vader happened.
Can't believe I was worried! Straight back to my childhood, instantly.
Best Star Wars film i've seen in years.
"Empire Strikes Back Good" INDEED!!! One of the BEST Star Wars films ever!
I'm weak as fuck, totally watching this.
I just watched it and I'm weak as three fucks.
I'm so weak I died. rip
HAHAHA me too - it's not Episode 8, I don't give a fuck about spoiling this one for myself.
SPOILER ALERT: the rebels get a hold of the plans to the death star.
well shit, thanks dude
Anybody cry when tarkin made his appearance? That was some amazing tech
I was skeptical going in after The Force Copycats but OMG the Death Troopers, The Sand People's long lost relative, the space battle, Darth Vader killing a bunch of rebels!!! The force was definitely with this movie.
Gareth Edwards understood the Soul of Star Wars.... unlike Rian....
Also Tony Gilroy!
Na, Rian understands Star Wars, he just took it in a different direction
"General Syndulla to the war room..." don't think I didn't hear it
kiwicannon1 nice to know own he survives Rebels. Shame they don't confirm the 100 light freighter is The Ghost though
Toby Kirkby That General Syndulla could be Hera five years later instead of her father.
Would be nice to know she survives too, I can;t handle Rebels crew getting Rogue One's
kiwicannon1 me too love Rebels
Toby Kirkby I'm betting that Rebels ends with the crew in Alderaan. Happy ending for kids. But we all know...
I need that Vader MLB shirt
Was thinking the same thing!
We must source it! So far all I've found is one low res image on Pinterest.
i know vader is wearing a baseball cap but that is a hockey jersey man.
oh shit nm haha i just scrolled back up and saw the other dudes shirt............im an idiot
the beach battle reminded me of saving private ryan. was gritty and full on
Actually there is a Rogue Two. Rogue Two finds Luke and Han on Hoth the morning after they almost freeze to death.
I thought the first 30 minutes- 45 minutes was little wacky cause of pacing, but overall loved it
Five, Seven, and Rogue One are easily my favorites, Ill have to see Rogue One again to make it official tho
Holy shit yes. The pacing was terrible in the begining. Felt like tons of 1 minute shots jumping between planets, and reeked of recuts. The movie evened out by the middle. I think its the best one since Empire
I thought the pacing was fine, I actually thought the story was pretty descent unlike Forca Awakens which was a complete mess.
Totally agree, I was actually starting to think the i wasn't going to enjoy the film because of how much they were rushing from this planet to that character and back.
Slow start, STRONG finish.
blaze vigil VII was shit
darth vader went full on "the raid" on those poor red shirts.
One does not simply shoot into Darth Vader.
Steven Baal This is what happens when you piss off a Sith lord. And it was GLORIOUS
Wouldn't they be "white" shirts? ;-)
joneshugh seeing Vader like that nothing is white 😉
bemasaberwyn55
The Rebel Alliance wearing white shirts.
They should make a movie about Vader after episode 3 where he's hunting jedi.
Its in the book, Lords of the Sith
I know but I want to see it in a movie. We've never seen a star wars movie told from the bad guy's perspective and I think it could work.
I'm conflicted about this. I kind of want it but it might be shit.
I doubt we ever get it and if we do it'll be told from the good guy's perspective. They also need to make a Darth Plagius movie about his power with the force and his relationship with palpatine or a solo palpatine movie that fills in the gaps between the three prequels about his rise to power. We never get to see these franchises from the other side.
They did 3 movies about Vader just saying.
For me this movie was important not in answering the question i never asked (how did they steal the plans), but in answering the one I have always asked (How was such a fatal flaw built into the Death Star)
6:43 to skip 5 minutes of advertising an underwear shop
Didn't expect them to talk about underwear for the first 7 minutes when I clicked on the video
How much did MeUndies pay you guys to talk about them for 6 minutes and 40 seconds?
I would complain, but I've actually paid money to listen to him talk about how he sat on and broke a toilet for several hours, so, yeah...
LordMajicus
I'm not really complaining. I mean, who likes ads? But if it's the cost of doing business, then I can tolerate them.
It's just very conspicuous that their sponsored message went way longer than another other sponsored message I've seen before, except for shows made to sell toys, I suppose.
CW AtWork Lol They probably paid for a 30 second spot, Kevin could talk about it for 3+ hrs somehow. #Smodcast(s)
Watch An Evening with Kevin Smith - it's literally just that sort of shit for 3 hours.
Probably less than Disney paid to make sure Kevin doesn't say how much these movies suck.
Darth Vader stand-alone. Right now. They can have a separate crew on it right away.
Hunting Jedi down. yeah.
"...helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father." = plot.
Exactly.
+Josi Davanee The prequels were indeed rubbish, but were Annie not full-on Vader.
Or. . . or, they make an original movie and stop rehashing old characters from the mind of George Lucas.
Guys, get the Catalyst audiobook.
Han Seoul-Oh how about just reading the actual book?
RighteousBrother cos the voice acting is epic in the ab
RighteousBrother Do you have something against audiobooks?
Never ever listened to one. Always prefer to read actual books.
+RighteousBrother This. Now, oddly, I have audio files of my favorite movies to listen to the movie on my mp3 player, like a new age radio serials from back in the day. But books? No one's VO/acting is going to beat how I hear the character's voices in my head when I read it. Plus, audiobooks takes the imagination out of it.
Sooo good. That last 10 minutes tho...! WOW!!
thebomb78 Right?! Fucking fuck!!
The Force is one with me.
I am One with The Force.
Personally, I think they kind of hammered that mantra into the story a little too frequently.
WorthlessDeadEnd yeah it was kinda cheesy
WorthlessDeadEnd But that was the whole point. Chirrut kept repeating it to himself and thus believed it.
mrsticky005, I thought it was because he was Force sensitive. How else would he have been able to whoop that much stormtrooper ass?
@ WorthlessDeadEnd
Chirrut is force sensitive. But unless you believe in the force you can't really wield it.
This is shown later when Yoda can raise the X-Wing in the Force and Luke cannot. Yoda was strong because of his strong belief in the force. Chirrut has a weaker belief which is why he has to repeat it to himself so he doesn't lose faith.
WorthlessDeadEnd It got my bladder through the last half hour
1:23:00 For THE SCENE analysis
Thank you sir!
I need to see it again ASAP for that Vader scene
May the undies be with you?
OpenMawProductions I like me undies lol
So Vader watches Leia's ship get away, yet when he captures it and comes on-board, everyone insists to Vader that they are consular ship on a diplomatic mission. What?
This is exactly what I was thinking when I left the theatre. There must have been some amount of time between the end of this movie and the start of IV in order for Leia to even bother bullshitting about being on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.
M. Strain Jr. Interesting idea
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She was trying a Jedi mind trick against a Sith Lord? Really? She was one badass princess but i think she was intelligent enough to know you can't use Jedi mind trick against a Sith Lord even if she knew there was such a thing at the time.
Mobus Dorphin
You took his response a bit too seriously. ;-)
I wasn't sure. I'm a bit cawfee high and I'm in full nerd mode, so yeah.
There is hope for K-2SO. Remember the scene where he hacks into the same base model bot that he is, their eyes flicker in unison etc. My kids and I were hoping he was copying himself onto that bot. We don't see that bot die so it could happen.
tradebeyoncebieber fordavebrockie the douchebags from the cantina made it off, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.
"Smooth as best juice through your rectum!"
- Kevin Smith 2016
(Brilliant and true statement)
Wasn't it beef juice?
Cyberman Bill beet juice
They could do a "Rogue 2" in a ways. They could show the Bothan SpyNet and how they got the plans for the 2nd Death Star.
Or maybe the Sullest attack Vader mentions in Episode 6
FrankDaTank420 ! I'm pretty sure that wasn't mentioned. Vader said "What about the rebels massing around Sullist.
Sullust
The fleet massing at Sullust was the Rebel attack fleet in Episode 6. They weren't attacking there, just gathering for the hyperspace jump to Endor.
TheGryf0xxx To be fair, there were shipyards at Sullust.
... So basically the Death star laser is kinda like a big instant extending light saber?
Pretty much
they were shootign the death star alot in this movie but it was not fully charged so it was like a nuke super nuke and they had to light speed out of the mushroom cloud that was sweet
DIdirectors It's some sort of weird particle weapon that shoots exotic matter from hyperspace at a target, causing matter to undergo annihilation and explode.
That analogy of Darth Vader and Forest Whitaker's character was brilliant, never even thought of that. Also the Red-5 reference. The dude on camera left is on point here
Yo someone help me out was Vader's castle on mustafar or sullust and was that one Jyn flashback of her father with krenic celebrating on coruscant? Vader's scene at the end was fucking nuts and Leia's scene was nostalgic af. So many cameos like gold leader and red leader, the ghost and general syndulla, the obi wan kenobi reference, Bale Organa, ponda baba and dr. Cornelius, tarkin, Leia and Vader so awesome.
Alex Sinibaldi I've read it was Mustafar which I think is just awesome.
Alex Sinibaldi I believe it was confirmed on twitter by the higher ups on Lucasfilms that it was mustafar
zenos59 Vader all nostalgic and shit
Alex Sinibaldi Jyn's flashback took place during the novel Catalyst. When Jyn was very small her father began working for the Empire thinking that they wanted his research for an energy enrichment program. He was friendly with Krennic during that time. The family ran away once Galen Erso realized he had been tricked into creating a weapon.
Alex Sinibaldi yeah it was confirmed to be Mustafar. Which is a really good nod to the prequels. And I went crazy for the red and Gold Leader cameos.
Vader coming down that hallway like a pants pissing nightmare. I mean wow way to make a impact with very little scenes. I loved this movie.
I was jizzing in my pants when I saw Vader destroying fools!!
RIP Carrie Fisher
I didn't watch the video, but somebody tell me, does Vader use his lightsaber in the movie?
Thanks! I needed that expectation set before the movie.
Idk man. Sometimes you just fear being let down.
yes....and it's everything you ever wanted it to be (albeit brief)
Nathaniel Larkin Dude. Yeah. Like 1 min. But fuck me if it isn't one of the greatest minutes....
you gotta be patience with the first half of the movie since it might move too fast for you with introduction and stuff but when you get to the the second half, it would be good
So if Jyn Erso's father built in a weakness to the 1st death star, who built in the weakness to the 2nd one?
Mario U Wasn't it just because the 2nd DS was still under construction, that they were able to destroy it? (I don't know just trying to solve it lol)
Mario U 2nd one didn't have a weakness per say. It's more that it was only half built and the path to the reactor was a lot more difficult and dangerous.
exactly right. The second one wasn't finished.
You know which one was finished the 3rd death star planet. And it still had a stupid weakness that was able to be taken down by 12 fighters. At least this movie explained the reason for the stupid weakness for the 1st death star.
Kevin There's no reasonable expectation that something should be invincible. There is nothing that can be built right now that cannot also be destroyed. Why would the Star Wars universe be any different?
The only reasonable expectation is that the empire would never build something twice with the same weakness.
"Luke, here is your father's lightsaber. He once used it to slaughter a temple of children and a village of sand people. I brought it with me after cutting his legs off and leaving him to burn alive on a volcano planet while I took your mother away in a spaceship. He was a good friend."
Actually, they brought in Angus MacInnes (Gold Leader) to record some additional lines for the movie. (Drewe Henley, who played Red Leader, passed away early in 2016).
As a kid I was terrified of Vader
That last scene of Vader made me as an adult think how terrifying he is
Skip to 6:45 to go to the review and not have to listen to them keep talking about underwear.
Yeah... their underwear talk kept going and going.
KabukiKid But that's honestly the type of advertising I don't mind watching.
i'm finally getting around to watching this and i have this say: rogue one really lends itself towards multiple rewatches. characters that seem kinda one dimensional or simple become more complex when you go back and watch again, with little micro expressions and realizations. even baze, when you realize he was a guardian just like chirrut before he lost his faith, AND he apparently practiced a little differently, since he said "may the force OF OTHERS be with you" instead of the traditional "may the force be with you." that actually says a whole lot about the splintering off of this ancient religion, just like religions in the real world are practiced differently (just take a look at all the different factions of christianity), and that fascinates me, these unspoken details
I've seen so many "reviewers" of late who went the jaded, cynic, and non-conformist route, that it's always refreshing to hear Kev review something. Even when he finds a few things wrong with whatever he's reviewing, he's so excited, so stoked that we're actually getting all this amazing content almost every fucking month. It just gives back some energy, some "childhood", that is basically what we look forward to get from these films.
This guy gets me pumped about the future of movies, and so fucking happy to be so lucky to live in this age the entertainment is going through.
Kudos on that, Fatman.
P.S.: And Marc keeps making me feel like an idiot with the way he just gets EVERY BIT of a movie I didn't even notice. God damn writer super-mind.