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In any other movie I would have been SO pissed off, but I found myself sitting next to two girls maybe 9-11 years old who would not stop talking the entire movie. But I said nothing and instead listened and heard two young girls absolutely loving this movie. One kept talking to WW: "No Diana, watch out!" or "Diana, you forgot your sword!" or "Wow, look at her fighting all those guys!" and the other girl more fan-girling: "Oh, that's just like in the comics!' or "That's what they said in issue..." or "That was her original origin, but then..." After the movie they turned to me, an absolute stranger in a Superman shirt, and wanted to talk about how good the movie was and insisted I take their leftover popcorn because they didn't want to waste food. I couldn't believe how much joy they got from this movie and how much joy I got seeing how much joy they got from this movie.
Dave Dranow I like your story. People get so caught up in the Marvel vs DC beef that they forget to just enjoy the movies for what it is. Us adult already had our childhood moment with 89 Batman and 80s Superman. Now the girls have their own hero they can root for. Wonder Woman is great and has just inspired a whole new generation.
Dave Dranow 9
Dave Dranow you're lucky ,I was in a theatre filled with middle schools girls on a schools trip...picture them screaming and crying through whole movie😒
Dave Dranow That is great to hear that lol
Dave Dranow My movie theater had a crying baby.... it's cried through.. the whole... thing.....
The no mans land scene was iconic, my sister cried when she saw that scene
yep made me want to wish wonder woman exist in real life
timmy pang me and my friend cried too 😂 it was beautiful finally seeing a female superhero go into battle like that 😊
i cried too
I loved the part where he talked about no man owning it.Personally it was so emotional.
The no mans land scene deserves a spot in the action movie hall of fame!
Terry Talks I love that scene and when they go into the town. It is just incredible.
No, it really doesn't.
"It is our sacred duty to defend the world, and it is what I am going to do."
That was the best part of time movie.
andre silva except for the fact we hadn't seen her powers interact with the worst of man's world, so yeah, it was new.
Robin Wright was just incredible as Antiope because she brought that ferocity which was incredible and understood that her niece is destined for greater things and now is the time to train her. The moment with Hippolyta telling Antiope that you will train her 5 times as harder was just perfectly executed. I never imagined Robin Wright as a Warrior and seeing how she pulled it off itself was impressive.
Raghu Seetharaman Ya and she really looked beautiful as a bad ass Amazon.
My favourite action pose from the movie: the triple arrow
Her accent was soooo bad...but she did great with the action. Looked cool
I agree! I wouldn't have imagined her in that role and she did such an amazing job! I didn't even recognize her at first. I hope she gets more recognition for the work she did on the movie. Of course Gal Gadot was great, but there were some other fabulous women as well.
Real insightful there, buddy.
weirdly enough I cried twice and not during parts that you would normally cry. I cried during the first battle scene with the Amazons because I just thought it was amazing how bad ass they were, but I was so devastated because they were naively going into battle against weapons they have never seen before... and then yet they adapted and still kicked major ass! The second time was when Wonder Woman was in the front line trenches and she was so determined to be the one to stand up and do something and she didn't doubt herself one bit. She just did what needed to be done and it was such a beautiful scene!! To me it just demonstrated a true hero.
Same. Those two scenes were so powerful to me personally. Loved this movie. This evoked so much emotion that it felt like I was reading it, very rare for a movie to invoke the same feelings as the source material.
Yes, the amazons marching in a V line swords in hand against rifles, that was... chilling, and that they never flinched, that was a great scene for me and brought home the whole warriors out of the timeline.
I like how this movie could have very easily been preachy, but didn't. They showed the sexism of the era and they showed Diana proving all of them wrong.
I also like how Steve Trevor realized very early on that he was not the hero of the story, but a supporting character. Being a man from the early 20th century, you'd expect him to have difficulty with that. But he actually embraces his role. He even says right before his sacrifice that he was going to save the day, but Diana was going to save the world.
Gal Godot embodied Diana so well. All the innocence and compassion and strength, she got it all perfectly
I agree, Gal Gadot was perfectly cast as Diana/Wonder Woman. And I love that the movie never used the title 'Wonder Woman' for her.. her actions and morals carry across how much of a wonder her character is.
Marc: "They may or may not make love. They may have just stayed up and talked all night."
Dan: "Oh they totally boned."
I love Dan.
Bruinsbiggestbear ikr they were being so naive
My heart melted when she tried the ice cream
chris pine has become one hell of an actor right before our eyes. I had no idea gal could act that well either patty must get some big credit for getting that out of her
I think Marc Andreyko likes this movie
Saifur Rehmaan Lol XD
I don't think Marc Andreyko likes this movie. I think Marc Andreyko thinks this movie is the second coming
Edit: oh someone already made this joke like a month ago
"I'll save the day, you'll save the world" ;_;
One of the reasons this film works is that Wonder Woman is allowed to be wrong. It doesn't have to belittle the other characters in order to prop her up and the film never throws Diana under the bus in order to seem cool. The development from someone who sees the world as black and white who comes to understand the darkness within human nature worked very well. It presents these problems yet doesn't provide any absolute solutions. It shows us that we need constant vigilance in order to fight back against our individual darkness, and even then the fight won't end. Diana is in a morally gray world yet her optimism is never lost. She works as a counter argument against the cynicism by never losing her optimism.
The cynicism that some people have about Wonder Woman is truly mind-blowing. Just let people hype things that they love 😩 It's not like it's not well-deserved anyway. It's the first superhero movie led by a genuinely great female character. It's the first good DCEU movie, too! 🙌
poison rose no bvs and mos are awesome
The "no man's land" scene is one of the best scenes in a superhero film.
absolutely.
I really liked this movie. 7.5/10 in my opinion and easily my favourite DCEU film so far. Not a fan of BvS or Suicide Squad (they have some moments), MoS I found decent but still had issues.
Things I liked:
- Gal Gadot's performance (her innocence especially)
- Chris Pine. Enough said.
- The story was pretty well executed
- The visuals and colours (the DCEU doesn't have to be dark and moody to try and make a good film)
- Surprisingly funny in areas
Things I think could've been improved:
- There was way too much slow motion
- The villains weren't developed that well
- The final battle was a stereotypical CGI mess of a boss fight
The opening sequence with the motion canvas with Hippolyta explaining about the creation of Amazons and Gods looked so beautiful. Evening the opening action sequences of the Amazonian warriors training montage felt straight out of the comics and seeing how Jenkins pulled that off was just incredible.
I teared up several times in the movie... thinking about it again I'm getting tearing emotional and I'm so ready to see it a second time, and a third and a fourth and fifth and I've already pre-ordered it on Xbox.
MOST "WONDERFUL" HAPPY TEAR MOVIE I'VE EVER SEEN!!!
Damn, sad to see its already getting the, "oh it's so overhyped, not as good as everyone says comments" I honestly really loved it.
R3drift Marvel fans are pretty awful, and I'm getting rather tired of thier movies.
there's nothing wrong with loving this movie. While I can't speak for everyone who thinks the same, I think it's overhyped because most reviews have glossed over the 3rd act and poorly fleshed out villains. I wouldn't say that's nitpicking because the antagonists in movies are important and the final act is the final impression the movie has on you before leaving the theater. I left happy but not overjoyed because of those flaws.
Brandon Brown how is the 3rd act different from any other explosive superhero movie third act. just so you know one of the reasons people love superhero movies is explosive action
You're right, explosive third acts are common with superhero movies. My problem with the third act here is that it comes across as noise rather than epic. Ares has all these arbitrary powers for some reason so it's impossible to tell how in control of the situation WW is or isn't. Can he keep disappearing at will? Is he immune to fire? Is he using telekinesis or abstract god bending will? Is he controlling fire and lightning? Can he control all elements? The movie never sets or prepares a baseline for how strong Ares is, it just says he's the god of war and then throws the kitchen sink at you. On top of that, I have no idea how WW defeats him. Are the gauntlets magic? Is that her magic? Is her God killer power reliant on turning another god's power back them? Is it tied to her anger? Is it tied to humanity? Did Ares even die (probably not but that's fine)? I just didn't know what was happening. I liked the movie, but none of that worked for me and I think its a fair critique that shouldn't be glossed over. If you enjoyed the spectacle, cool, I just needed the rules to be clearer so I could understand what was happening.
That's a good point. They address it, I just think saying it didn't bother them feels too subjective (I get all opinions on movies are subjective I just think this might be a bit far) to the point it is glossed over. Going back to the "overhyped" argument, I think because reviewers are being dismissive of the 3rd act, they're raising expectations to higher than they should be. Thus why I would say it's overhyped.
I thought WW was about to go Super Sayian when Steve Trevor died.
Prince of all Sayians Nah thats superman lol. You fk up his loved ones and he will destroy you... God! I love this version of a bad ass superman instead of the wimpy one we usually get.
maybe we will get a bad ass superman in mos 2. we'll have to see.
I thought she had a X men Dark Phnoix moment there
she did.
She did, she even killed the villain with a Kamehameha
I'm happy DC finally has a good film, it's not amazing, but really good. Solid 8/10. Hope they continue in this direction.
The best part of the movie was the chemistry between Gal Gadot and Chris Pine.
The worst part was the ending fight scene with Ares. Horribly cut and it had a weird tempo, just couldn't get into it.
PS: Why did Ares throw bolts of lightning? completely threw me off.
Jesper Vighagen I think it's cause he is the god of war he can use any weapon ever. and since zues Is dead who is going to stop him using thunder.
Roth and Dan is the only reason i watch screen junkies. Unbiased, factual and insightful thoughts. Everyone else is just a lot of noise for me just like most youtube channels. So refreshing to see thoughtful reviews..
Gauthaman Koyamparambath The guy in the middle seems biased though, and he kind of took over the whole conversation. I love Roth and Dan's insight but this entire panel wasn't as enjoyable to watch as I want it to be
he wrote Wonder Woman '77, so he has a little bias towards the character, but he knows more about Wonder Woman than almost anyone else
Bo Xue Yes thats why i didnt mention him.He is just way too dramatic. I mean come on, WW was a great movie but not that life changing. It really took away the seriousness of the subject being discussed. Its sad to see such low intelligent thinking on these shows sometimes. They could have talked about how the approach to ww and superman was unique in that WW was born and brought up in a near perfect society, trained to be a warrior and she is a demi god. Superman is a demi god who was brought up on the other side of her world and therefore has his imperfections because he was never trained nor had the journey to build up on discipline and such. Their duality in terms of power and outlook etc.That discussion would have been so amazing to hear. Like it or hate it, the Dceu character approaches are honestly slowly making more sense.
Gauthaman Koyamparambath I agree, Roth is so eloquent and knowledgeable, I really admire her and Dan is always unbiased.
Bo Xue he is partially biased because patty jenkins wrote a story for his charity comic
People this movie was not about Marvel vs DC. It is about women finally having a true female superhero they can root for. And the movie turned out great.
All that truly matters is the reactions of the kids. Because years from now they will be in the same position we are today. We already had our moment with 89 Batman and Superman. Spider-Man, XMEN and The Avengers.
Let the women have their moment because that's what this movie is all about.
Well said, sir. Well said indeed :)
UK Media Warrior All of what you said is true. But Wonder Woman's character represents female empowerment.
So no matter what Patty Jenkins wanted to avoid she really didn't have a choice. Because Wonder Woman is the poster child for Feminism. But not the crazy male bashing feminism of today. But more so when feminism first started out. Like being able to vote etc.
UK Media Warrior I agree. I belive the impact is that Wonder Woman is the truly first female superhero blockbuster that being pushed like a male lead blockbuster.
MR.DC COMICS as a woman, it is NOT about women having. A hero. It's about EVERYONE having a hero. Superman and Batman are my heroes too. Stop trying to push your women bs topics to people.
over 75 years in the making. wonder woman is like superman which represents superheroes of truth, justice, and doing whats right across all genders. no matter who you are. there a reason why the big trio, batman, superman, wonder woman are one of the best trio comic icons out there.
I have to say, as an Israeli myself, hearing Wonder Woman speak in an Israeli accent was both pretty cool and kinda weird.
Tal Moore I thought the other amazons also spoke with that accent. Did it sound that way to you. I'm a southern girl so for me she sounds exotic no offence.
They all copied Gal's accent, rather than have her put on a fake British or American accent
The reasoning being, why should an island of warriors have an accent they've never encountered before being descended from the Greeks? I think Gal's accent fits much better. Much more accurate would've been if they all spoke Ancient Greek, but then we wouldn't understand a thing, unless the movie was subtitled, and of course most people off Themyscira wouldn't understand a thing, making communication harder, and I'm thinking way too much into this.
No, the other Amazons definitely did NOT have Israeli accents. But anyone who hasn't been steeped in the accent, as I have, probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyhow.
Haven't watched the trailers and the movie yet, was just venturing a guess, but that is a bit disappointing to me, but I as you said probably won't be able to tell the difference anyway not being steeped in the accent and all. :)
My brother brought me to see this for my 56th birthday and I was blown away! Finally a movie that is not afraid to express 'female' and 'strong' simultaneously. It reminded me, in some ways, of hearing Helen Reddy's song 'I Am Woman' when I was a preteen in the early 70s. That acknowledgment that yes, a woman can be strong, without losing her femininity. I absolutely LOVED this movie. I laughed, I cried, I felt every emotion that Diana did and I went on the ride Patty Jenkins designed joyously.
I like the part where Dr Poison almost fell for Chris Trevor and then Diana walked in and screwed up everything.
Herve Jr Larose
This are the scenes why i like Dr Poison , she is not a evil human.........she is just a broken human being.
OK
I am waiting with baited breath for the announcement from Warner Bros. of the Wonder Woman Prequel: Wonder Woman: THE RISE OF THE AMAZONS. I need a whole movie full of Robin Wright's (Antiope) and Connie Nielsen's (Hippolyta). These two ladies were EVERYTHING IN THIS MOVIE.
acmdu89 Even after the first half?
Diana’s character has the most depth out of all the other superhero movies so far. She is shown to be strong of character without the in-your-face “look how badass and special this girl/woman is”. And even though she is barely dressed, she is never objectified. Unlike Lois in the other DC movies or Black Widow in the Marvel movies, whose movements are still are sexualized.
But more importantly, Diana is genuinely likeable. There is no way anyone can walk out of this movie and not fall in love with Gal Gadot.
My main issue with Wonder Woman isn't even a problem created by the film itself! Again BvS ticks me off because in NO WAY does the Diana at the end of this film give up and retreat from being Wonder Woman for 100 yrs!! Nothing gets her back into the fight? WW2!? Jewish genocide?! Hiroshima?! The entirety of the horror that is the 20th century?!? Nope, she's done, until she gets a goddamn email about that picture with Steve from Bruce Wayne just as a dumb Kryptonian Goblin starts destroying some east coast cities and nearly kills a Bat fetishist and the mopey alien that destroyed Metropolis 18months earlier?! That doesn't fly IMO! It's just more evidence on how the Snyder modern day DCEU JL bullshit is so freaking flawed!!! Patty Jenkins is far more equipped to steer the DCEU moving forward! It all makes me cringe JL even more!
Also I don't like the notion that ALL the gods are dead?!? Zeus, all of Olympus? Now Ares? That's like killing all of Batman's rogues gallery BEFORE he becomes Batman! I hope that is rectified in time for any sequels!
In what way am I "just wrong?" lol
Langley M Neely Who cares, it's a movie, maybe it's because she feels a connection with Bruce Wayne, a possible love interest? Like it said, doesn't matter, it's a movie not real life.
Remus Lupin forgot to take his potion
I like it had elements from Captain America: The First Avengers, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Superman: The Movie and the reveal of her birth being a natural rather than being sculpted out of clay was a surprise/not surprise. Also the reveal of David Thewlis as Ares was not a shocker but he was great as The God of War. The rage and carnage Ares carried is what Diana had carried too but she was able to suppress which was nice. In a way it's Diana's journey into becoming a hero and the trials and tribulations she goes through.
Really loved how everything just came together quite nicely! Such an amazing movie, and it just gets better the more you watch it. Seen it four times already, and hope to see it quite a few more times.
I think everyone is nitpicking this movie because it was a nearly perfect film. And we all want it to be perfect, it was THAT good. I had a blast watching it and hearing the audience react. Wonder Woman is one of my top 5 hero films ever.
jo romo "nearly perfect film", "it was THAT good" - seriously? I understand that you liked it and stuff, but seriously, you're overpraising it. The CGI was horrendous, the use of slow-motion was too much and got old really fast, the very end of the movie was awkward as Hell, the third act was just a big mess and the villain was terribly miscast. It's an OK movie, why does everyone act like it's an amazing cinematic achievement?
DieWilWheatonDie I think people are overstating the CGI issues, some wasn't great. But only a time or two did I think it was bad. The slow mo actually worked here imo considering how fast she and the Amazon's fight and with the level of finess they fight, I usually hate slow mo but here I dug it. The 3rd act wasn't as good as the rest, but it still was fine and kept me entertained so I can't complain too much.
There is no such thing as a "perfect" movie. Or a "near perfect" one. For it to be one of those it would have to be one hell of a film, period.
Kearndawg1 I can't see how anyone could like this amount of CGI in that film. First of all it all looks really two-dimensional, fake and blurry and reminded me of «Gods of Egypt», the worst part is probably where Steve drops a bomb when he steals a plane and everything around him turns into weird CGI explosion. Besides being unrealistic it was also overused, like every explosion or flame there was CGI, come on, can't they actually do any practical stuff? Slow-mo makes sense when you need to show something that can otherwise go unnoticed by the viewer, but here it's used in every action scene, even the most simple stuff like somebody firing an arrow or doing a backflip apparently needed 10 seconds of slow-motion each, it looked like the director really wanted this to look like «300» but went overboard.
"it was a nearly perfect film"
LMFAO
What I really loved in Wonder Woman was Diana running around as a kid and greeting people in such a way that gave me a wonderful sense that the entire island was raising her communally.
Getting a feeling like that within the first 10 mins of the film really sold me on the emotional strength of the film.
Like she may have gotten her powers from mystical/magical origins, but her heart and abilities were all sourced from the community around her, all the qualities of the Amazons were her inheritance.
We don't spend much time on the island but she carries it within her for the rest of the film.
People forget that it was Zack Snyder who casted her as Wonder Woman... he should get some props as well.
dxsuperstarl yes,but her directed by jenkins its good, directed by him its sucks...
mabusestestament shes there for nothing...doesnt has importance on the movie
But her in BvS is the people reason love her. The reason people couldnt wait for the solo movie.
so the first 3 movies didn't work but the DCEU put woman on the map for modern culture ... something other productions was not able to do
Red Parrot I loved MOS. I'm not sure if WW will make more than that movie or not tho.
Ronin it will really depends on the second weekend. MoS had a huge drop off on the second week but had a larger opening weekend.
I absolutely loved this review of the film. Much of the reviews I've seen mostly talk about the no man's land scene and the very big highs and their minors low in the film. This review really went into detail with Diana's character and the development she went through in the film and THEN related it to how it affected the highs and very minor lows. This review really helped me understand what I loved about the film and made me appreciate it's depth. When I left the cinema the second time I watched it, I was really overwhelmed by how well the film made me go through the emotions Diana felt seeing all this carnage and damage the war has been doing. I was with her and I felt her need to help and her struggles to understand the evil. This movie sold me on such a cheesy lesson but it did not even feel like that. My brain is just used to thinking that 'love is the answer' is corny but it was so well executed and well earned in this film.
And also, I didn't know how important this film was until I saw it the second time with my mom. My mom doesn't like comic book movies because she thinks it's all about magic and chemicals and robots and aliens. she was apprehensive in watching this but when we left the theater, what she said struck me. My mom is not one to talk about emotions and is very straightforward and not PC, but when were outside the cinema she said "you know, I wish Wonder Woman can save all those people in Marawi. If she was there, she could help them feel stronger. Maybe she can tell them about all that love and peace stuff. That's probably what they need right. That's what Wonder Woman said." This film did that! I thought it was gonna be about how Wonder Woman is a superhero that's a girl but this film sold us on believing in love and unity again. My mom never says cheesy shit like that but when she said it, it was just so simple and true for her that it just made sense for her to say that and I agree with her.
wonder women is what every superhero movie should be,thank you pettt jenkins for this fantastic movie
barry 234 nice pic
I saw it twice Thursday and Friday and watching it for a second time made the experience a whole lot better.
#MarcAndrekyo you just read my mind regarding that moment with the Amazons as Antiope said shield and seeing Trevor witnessing that technique and then using it again and telling Diana Shield was perfectly captured. When I saw that sequence Marc it was just brilliant.
Raghu Seetharaman Steve witness that move with someone shooting an arrow....did you really think he planned for her to crash into the building? you are reaching wayyy tooo far..
@Dan Murrell - Patty Jenkins talked about in an interview that she was adamant to Warner Bros that she shot the entire film on FILM. She said she was scared to present it to them and when she did, they immediately said, "oh great, we would hope you would say that". It was an interview she did on the press tour somewhere. But yes, the film was shot on film. I loved how the effects bounced off of film. It's like a classic/modern visual blend that was just spectacular.
I genuinely think Ares is one of the best superhero movie villains seen onscreen. His motivation has a reality and pathos which is unsettlingly truthful and he's the perfect foil to Wonder Woman's Ideals of Love, Peace and Tolerance. The CG was like any other CBM ending but with a message. The personification of War and Peace at battle. WW representing the light part of humanity and Ares the dark. Both having valid motivations in their believes of human nature. Concluding in a metaphor of championing values of compassion and tolerance over hatred and prejudice.
jhunt5578 I agree. I think what makes him a great villain is the fact that in reality he's kind of everyone's villain. We're constantly in a tug-of-war between the light and the dark. I love how he said he put the ideas into their heads but doesn't force them to act. It's so real. He wasn't just a villain in the third act for a fight scene, but a genuine villain they were fighting the entire movie.
jhunt5578 I agree
that mustache tho.
Ares is able to kill all the Gods including Zeus....but Zeus is able to create. weapon to kill Ares..??? this shytt don't make sense......
jhunt5578 are you joking?
I think the best thing they did in the movie was that they made the Amazonians mimic Gal Gadot's accent. So she felt way more natural as Wonder Woman.
I really enjoyed Wonder Woman, but this review by Marc Andreyko was just way over the top. In 45 minutes he didn't have one criticism of the movie? It was perfect from start to finish? Obviously, it is impossible for him to be objective since he writes the comic.
Jeff Berger he makes a few good points but he's totally digging for things that aren't there
Jeff Berger not to the mention his ughs with rolling of eyes as he describe things
It was that good though. My only problem is with was the questionable CGI in some spots but other than that it was really good.
I think you guys are being too positive. WW is a great movie but it's definitely not perfect. The ending became every other DC movie a big CGI fight at night, most of the fight lasted longer than necessary, somethings aren't explained at all- the strength giving gas, Diana can walk about in the killing gas no problem for some reason, I would of liked if they explained Diana's reasoning for joining the allies over the axes
Trevor and Diana definitely explored them sheets! Diana put that NANA on Trevor something serious!
much respect for the guy in the middle. you can see the emotion on his face this whole video! he is so proud of the character being displayed correctly....and so am I!
#PattyJeninsforMOS2
His name is Marc Andreyko. He wrote WONDER WOMAN 77 look it up
Roth and Dan are fantastic critics. Marc is just too over the top. He comes across as deranged. People like Marc are doing the movie a disservice because they are overhyping it to ridiculous levels.
it's a shame they killed off all the Greek Gods...
James Robinson To be fair its easy to write them back in since they are Gods lmao they might use the old gods vs new gods from the comics anything can happen
James Robinson if they were alive everyone would be wondering why they didnt help humanity when general zod was destroying the planet.
Gods really don't interfere that often and their absence could be rationalized. Just like, where were the Amazons during that time? Just another rabbit hole for us...
Maybe they are chilling out with Hades in the Underworld rather than truly dead. But maybe DC does not want to deal with gods too much.
James Robinson Its gonna be weird for Shazam, cause his powers come for a couple of them...
I love how the demigoddess who can take on a whole division squeals with delight "a baby!". She kicks butt, but she is so adorable and good.
I liked the review overall but I feel like they should have talked about some of the negatives because it did have some. Even as a professed lover of this movie, I feel like it's flaws need attention
Why do the german generals and Dr. Poison speak english in private? ... in other scene they showed Wonder Woman speaking several languages, couldn't they put the germans speaking their native language.
aert88 Because they don't have the guts to do that. I totally agree that it would add so much to the authenticity of ANY war movie to be honest, but they think that people get annoyed when they have to read more than three lines of subtitles so they shy away from it. Tarantino was the only one who ever had the guts to do it, in Inglourious Basterds, and that movies benefitted so incredibly much from that.
aert88 dr poison is spanish, maybe that's why they speak english? because she doesn't speak german. :)
what really impressed me about the fights, was that it really looked like someone took the time to study how best to turn female musculature and capabilities into viable fighting skills. it was quite graceful to me and I thoroughly enjoyed the slo-mo shots. Loved this movie, and Mark's right. I came out immediately wanting to watch it again.
I wish the guy in the middle would let the others finish what they're saying before he goes off on an unrelated tangent.
he's interupting over and over but he wrote ww. it's still rude af.
The moment Diana puts on the tiara FIRST in the trench before we see the armor says, "I am now ready to live up to Antiope's legacy." THEN, we see the rest of the outfit. That honoring of her aunt first made me choke up, but the full reveal in No Man's Land made me cry.
I think Zack did a great job casting Gal as Wonder Woman.
I've seen it twice now. I keep watching/listening to all of my favorite podcasts' review episodes for this movie and getting chills just hearing other people discuss it. This movie affected me in emotional ways I definitely didn't expect, and I'm so glad.
It was good, but I don't feel compelled to go back to the theater for it a second time. I don't understand everyone falling over themselves.
I shared a tear or two during No Man's Land scene, when she put Antiope's Tiara on, for next 10 mins I lost it, wow
A 44min youtube video (urgh) about Wonder Woman (click). Good stuff, I couldn't wait to hear Marc talk about it. Ares worked best in the guard tower scene. I might have preferred the whole end sequence to be like that. It bothered me that it got a bit DragonballZ/Matrix3 at the end. But when I watched it a second time I noticed a lot more subtle things going on & realized it wasn't just that. I've talked about how much I love the film, just wanted to address people's 3rd act/villain issues.
it is amazing and cant wait to see it again
I really liked the movie but even I admit the villains were very weak, what was with the laugh in that hallway lol!!!
Your reviews are always well thought out, well worded and just all around a great conversation between people with respective points.
I love Roth, she's quite sharp in her reviews.
agreed.
06:24 Exactly! Most audiences go to movies, hell, virtually any form of recreation, as a means of escapism. We want to feel inspired or just lose ourselves in an experience as a temporary escape from the crap we deal with or see everyday.
I loved the film 8.5. My only complaint is the Power of Love powers and I rather she killed Ares straight up combat. Ares was cool & everyone was likable
I love how they understood who WW is. The team was great. But the villains were not. Remember the white smoke Danny Houston took. The Heroes were extremely grounded and beautifully conceived, but wtf were those villains?!
When Winder Woman showed up I CLAPPED AND I CHEERED!
I don't begrudge anyone who didn't like the movie, but a lot of naysayers seem to be trying too hard to convince others the movie isn't as great as most are saying it is. Sure a lot of people are really fanboying and fangirling over this movie, with good reason, but it's not like we didn't see a ton of that when the Dark Knight came out, and it got down right ridiculous with Dark Knight Rises with death threats. My unpopular opinions; I liked Guardians vol 2 more than Vol 1. I'm one of those who likes Avengers more than the Dark Knight, but I also like Age of Ultron more than the Dark Knight.
All I wanted from this movie was a good movie. I got a great movie. I love it more than Guardians vol 2 and Logan. Homecoming and Ragnarock are going to have to be really good to compete with Wonder Woman. And now I'm a little more hopeful for justice League.
Awesome spoiler review. You guys managed to make me emotional about this movie all over again. I've seen it twice so far and I'm hoping I can go again.
This is the reason why i like DCEU, they make bold/risky movies. I still like Marvel though.
About 15 minutes into this movie, I REALIZED I WAS WATCHING GREATNESS UNFOLD BEFORE MY EYES.
Diana left the world of man for 100 years. Even in BvS we saw her on the plane and did a momentary soul search as to whether she would involve herself in the battle. Obviously she did enter but it wasn't a gung ho moment of her just rushing off.
Also loved that it took Ares all that time to figure out who she was. That tied in beautifully with what her mother said about "As she gets stronger ... he will find her." So of course he didn't know who she was when they first met because she didn't do anything yet.
Best in depth conversation about the film on CZcams. Good stuff guys. An incredibly rare and beautiful film!
One of my favorite scenes in the movie is when the sniper says that he should not go with the group because he cannot pull the trigger...Wonder Woman replies with a breathtaking smile...."but who would sing for us". This movie is about what all of us can bring to the table.
two men were going to see the movie and they mention that they have been waiting for the movie for 40 years.
Marc Andreyko, and myself, were both successfully pulled all the way into the story telling and commanding emotional tapestry which is this Wonder Woman film. I think a lot of people were less strongly affected. And there are reasons to take points off for some bits of the movie, I would rework quite a few things about the villains given the opportunity. But if this movie does suck you in, all the way, you'll be just gushing like Marc and myself. It's very early to say for sure, but I want to say that this movie finds a home in my all time top ten movies. I think in order to be quite that powerful though, it needs to interact with the psychology of the viewer in a way that likely won't be quite as compelling for many. Still a good film for all, but I think the few like Marc and myself are part of a smaller demographic who are just giddy about this movie, and the way it speaks very intimately with our sense of cynicism and hope.
this movie was great, I brought my wife who likes comic book movies but is not a hard core geek by any means. she was laughing, clapping, and cheering for ww. that's what makes this film great.
This movie, was great!!!
The 1st act was a tiny bit slow because of the exposition, but it gave great introduction to the characters and the conflict.
The 2nd act just sucked me into the story and was perfectly paced with excellent character development, great action, and smart story progress.
The 3rd act was a little bit bloated with the overtop fight between Wonder Woman and Aries, but it also had the great emotional pay off, of Steve dying.
I personally enjoyed the ideological divide of Wonder Woman and Aries, and how wonder woman was conflicted between having hope for men or giving up on them.
If they would of had a clear ideological divide in Batman v Superman, and a 3rd act that was emotionally charged like they had in this movie then it would've been way better.
I think Warner Bros learned from their mistakes and fixed the problems that stifled BvS.
If I were to nitpick things, i would say that the "surprise" of Wonder Woman being the weapon that would defeat aries and not her actual sword, wasn't really a surprise at all.
Also Aires being a old British dude really took me outta the movie at moments, but luckily he wasn't doing much action before he had his armor. The 3rd act final action scene was sorta bland, but atleast it was emotionally charged so the investment in the characters kept me engaged.
If I were to rate this movie myself id give it a 87%, or a 4.3 outta 5.
I could listen to Mark talk all day about this movie. He said exactly what I felt.
I just realized... Wonder Woman is what Superman should have been for us.
Thank you, Wonder Woman. I needed that in my life. I needed you in my life.
"It's not about what you believe. It's about love." This is why Wonder Woman was a Star Sapphire. Her love for humanity is so great it pulled her from the grip of death itself. Having that translated so perfectly to a movie... I didn't think it was possible.
I could listen to Marc talk Wonder Woman for longer than 45 min
this movie is Moana, Thor, and CA:tfa, all mixed into one. It's not in a bad way. they used tropes and stuff but gave it the slightest of twists that allowed it to glow. Also, im 100% sure that the fight scenes are giving a lot of this movie some leeway. Idc tho. I liked it lol. Gal kicks ASS
Interesting observation here. " Wonder Woman" is NEVER referred to as Wonder Woman in this movie. She is called Diana, or just Woman. In fact, the only place that those two words appear together is in the title of the movie. Great movie!
This movie beats MOS and BVS hands down...! Not even a contest...... Got goosebumps hearing you guys talk... going to see again on Friday with another friend who hasn't seen it yet... :)
I couldn't believe how overwhelmed with emotion and inspiration while watching Wonder Woman... literally cried.. never thought that would happen in a DCEU movie !
Really enjoy the three of you discuss this EPIC film! I love how passionate you are about the whole thing and with such love for Diana/Gal Gadot, the story, the director, the cast, effects, pace, etc! Ohhhh my heart, I want to see this film again so badly.
I love how Dan is sitting on the set of 2001 a space odyssey
"I can save the day, but YOU can save the world."
Best CBM Portrayal's in NO particular order:
Hugh Jackman as The Wolverine
Patrick Stewart as Old Charles Xavier
James Macvoy as Young Charles Xavier
Ian Mckellen as Old Magneto
Michael Fassbender as Young Magneto
Heath Ledger as The Joker
Christopher Reeves as Superman
Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man
Chris Evans as Captain America
Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
The first phase with the end battle with Ares was kinda cringy.
Das Übermensch Very Cringy and inconsistent. If he can teleport so easily, why didn't he teleport when Diana threw lightning at him? If he was really such a threat to all the other Gods how did a rookie like Wonder Woman kill him?
Brandon Reed he is still better than most MCU villains
Herve Jr Larose thats not saying much (flashes back to fake mandarin and that blue guy they defeated with a dance off)
I just remember it being so dark I couldn't see a goddamn thing
Joshua Kristoff watch in IMAX next time. movies are brighter in IMAX.
Saw the movie last night and loved it! The only thing I'd change is if after the reveal that David Thewlis was Ares, that his body would've turned to fire than turned to a different actor like Manu Bennet for example (who I would've bought as Diana's brother) revealing that Sir Patrick was his host and if he would've mentioned being an outcast that would've made Ares a much better villain in the movie. Other than that, it was perfect!!
I really enjoyed this review. Informed hosts giving some very good points. Good points of views. Thank you!
Best part of the movie is when Steve says "you can save the world, I can save today." That to me means he realizes that she is soooooo much more important than he is, but that he knows she can't do everything herself, and knows he needs to teach her that final lesson to become a true hero.
The part that made me well up with fanboy tears of pure joy and love was when they're in the trenches and Steve says "It's not what we came here to do" and she busts out in the full outfit for the first time on screen and says "No, but it's what I'M going to do." So awesome!!!!!
And I love the way that the closeups of her climbing that ladder aren't Michael Bay upskirt pervy - they are showing her armour, the lasso, the shield etc. Then the full shot of her striding towards the German line - I'm geeking out again just thinking about this scene!
Marc, you helped make this happen,
Thank-you so much.
WW '77, love is love. much love back at you brother.
The best part of Wonder Woman for me was seeing my 9-year-old daughter hanging off the theater seat in front of her, absolutely enthralled by a superhero movie in a way she's never been for any other movie I've taken her to see.
Diana was radiant, otherworldly and humane -a goddess that we need.
I thought the movie was really good, the high praise is a bit much in my opinion but I still enjoyed the movie. Hopefully DC can keep it up
""aM i tHe oNly OnE ThaT thINks tHIs mOvIe Is oVerHyped?"" ugh
Marc and Dan really know what they're talking about... And that's what make this review so good
I would like to see these 5 things happen going forward with a solo Wonder Woman film series:
1) Patty writes and directs WW2 as a 2+ hr "R" rated movie with adults in mind, and a second director edits it into a 1.5 hr PG-13 movie for the kids, a shorter and more focused on an action comic book movie. The second director cuts out adult content (character development, erotic, etc.) with minimal reshoots to make it a great PG-13 movie for the kids.
2)) Diana meets Steve's great nephew, played by Chris Pine with facial hair and/or different haircut, etc. Doesn't know who he is, but eventually has Steve flashbacks, later finding out. A sexual liason between Steve's great nephew and Diana could certainly put it into the "R" rating.
3) Diana has become far less naive and far more sophisticated in the 70 years since WW1. She is now a secret agent in the style of James Bond. Smart, sophisticated, and classy, albeit without needing to escape some diabolical execution by the evil mastermind. Diana becomes a femme fatale in search of secrets and secret nuclear/WMD sites when the situation warrants it.
4) Diana has a female love interests to flesh out her comments to Steve on the WW1 boat to London that men were not necessary for pleasure. Maybe her love scenes with other women would be more erotic and numerous, and with men more romantic and special. Would have broad appeal. Personally, I would like her just to display a naturalness to nudity and erotic pleasure.
5) Her increasing god powers allow her passage to and from Hades (dimension/universe) where she can meet with the lost gods of the past, including her proud father Zeus, and maybe eventually bring her aunt back to Themyscira. Possibly this should be better saved for Wonder Woman 3 or beyond.
Hopefully, Wonder Woman continues to develop into a sophisticated mythological saga for adults melding the real world with fantasy and maybe science fiction later on with an increasing gray area between black and white, right and wrong, that is thought provoking as well as entertaining. Additionally, the whole comic book super hero theme can be kept to a parallel PG-13 universe.