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Might also explain why Kenobi later "became one with the force" and made his entire body vanish...
he didn't want that same fate ;)
Oh God, and Anakin would do it.
Great thought. That really pissed vader off
Yeah no, not even close.
@@Beethoven8335 Listen here Droid-sniff....
If I say Kenobi made himself vanish so he wouldn't get taken to the Sith Sideshow Circus... then... he did it.
I know because I communed with his Ghostly Apparition just 1 minute before you trucked on in here and said what you said.
He even told me.. that YOU were gonna come here and spew out that half-baked line.
He "foresaw it".
And let me tell you something Mr Symphony Tune-up.....
Nothing man.. just kidding :P
@@d0nKsTaH lol, idek how to reply to this.
And here I thought Grievous keeping dead Jedi's lightsabers as trophies to kill other jedi is cruel, the empire had it worse.
dude I was thinking the same thing! lol 😂
see, grievous collected sabers out of warriors pride, possibly even respect for the Jedi he was able to defeat. what the empire did here was purely out of disrespect and spite.
There’s one other possible thing that they could do with these Force sensitive bodies. Collect genetic material from them to create a new body for Darth Sidious.
yes, but not this early.
@@itilosi9929 Why not? You think Palpatine wasn't already trying to figure out how to cheat death?
@@VogtTD of course he was. but at this point it would be at the very bottom of the priority list. he was far more concerned with wiping out the rest of the jedi and tightening his grip on the galaxy.
@@itilosi9929 possibly, but he could've also figured that it was better to start planning earlier than expected. It works out perfectly for his persona
We do know that palpatine is an amazing contingency planner. Evil, yes, but amazing. So, knowing this, it's entirely possible for him to already be planning to cheat death.
Damn, I can imagine a scenario with Cal Kestis and Cere Junda. That would really suck for Cal losing his disconnected Jedi mentor. Sensing her presence but not realizing she is dead and was used to lure him in. That would definitely set a dark tone for the Fallen Order franchise and also she is the only force user/former Jedi he knows so far and that is a huge connection that would really be devastating for Cal. I doubt it but it could work in a third installment maybe?
If you said that Cal would find Jaro Tapal in something like this, than I would agree. But not with Cere. Cere is nowhere near close to be his master. Hell, her connection to the force was even more damaged than Cal's. Yes, he would be upset, that is for sure, but not nearly as much as with his master.
Actually I believe that his reaction would be a lot like Kanan's. They were practically of the same age(+- year or two).
Not to mention, that he already knows, that Cere literally sold her padawan out. I know, torture an blablabla, but still, she gave imperials a child to do as they pleased. In a way, this is exactly what Cere deserves. Just shame that Trilla would not see it.
Or maybe they will make her inquisitor. Even Vader admitted that she is strong with the dark side. And that would show her what Trilla truly had to endure, eventually Cal will be able to redeem her and she will finally forgives herself.
@@HanithSVK yeah after playing multiple times I tried to make out clues just through certain dialogue that could potentially happen in Jedi Survivor or the next one. Cere falling to the dark side I can see that just from some of the dialogue that is maybe a teaser since they tend to do that in some games. As for Jaro Tapal I figured his body may have been disintegrated because I think that ship was going down and if I recall I believe their Venator was stationed above Bracca where it probably crashed. But who knows, it is possible his corpse could have been retrieved at some point. I just figured that maybe now Cere may reconnect with the force to be a better asset and be a better mentor to Cal but I think you’re right, I don’t think you can just be a Jedi Master all of a sudden after disconnecting but then again the Jedi Council is non-existent and the position they’re in would do some things that would be contrary to the Jedi way which has changed throughout the order’s existence. She probably feels like she may tap in to the dark side again but the ending of fallen order I got the vibes that may have been her redemption with the force, going back to the light side and motivating her to later regain her connection to the force, but then again there were those hints about the things she’s done and tapping in to the dark side multiple times so maybe she doesn’t want to go that route. Possibility she gets captured since in the trailer we see a crashed Mantis with no crew on what looked to me as Jedha possibly but I doubt it.
You know the sad thing she was originally supposed to get crushed by an at-et walker on kashyyyk ment Unduli
@@vmac8972 I also doubt that Tapal's physical body will be shown in next game(although i think he will return as either manifestation of the force(through dreams) or through becoming forc ghost(but this is less likely)).
And Cere was never Jedi Master as far as i know. Her master, Cordova, was that is without doubt(although he reminds me of Qui-gon) but i think that Cere was only a knight at best. Before the end of the game, before she taps into the dark side against Vader(for all good it did to her) i even think that Cal at that point, was stronger than Cere before purge. The only actual powers Cere manifested was that "force bubble" she used against Vader's lightsaber strikes and telekinesis(but even to do that she had to tap into dark side).
And about the next game.
My personal opinion is that either Cere or Greer will die at the beginning of the game(Greer is a bit more likely). I seriously doubt that they would kill Merrin, most of the fans would rip them to shreds. Same goes for BD.
But killing Cere or Greez can put Cal on the path of revenge. And that will be the main plot of the next game. I also can see that ending will be something like:
1. Dark side: "Killing those responsible for killing Cere/Greer and a butload of innocent people with them" or
2. Light side: "You will let them go and save buttload of people".
Either way, whole platoons of Stormtrropers are going to die.
Imagine being Obi-Wan and seeing all your old friends and comrades visibly buried and hung up like trophies
I believe that it’s even worse than you can imagine. If you recall, particularly powerful Jedi can ascend to a higher state such as Obi Wan does at the end of his life as does Yoda and many others. By maintaining the bodies at the edge of death their “Souls” are basically trapped and cannot move on. What I’m saying is that they’ve imprisoned their essence so they can’t guide future Jedi. Their knowledge “dies” with them. The Sith Lord kills off their predecessors and absorbs their energies and knowledge.
That’s very possible. The captive Jedi are for all intents and purposes dead, except that they were likely not allowed to become one with the Force. So their souls (as you said,) are basically trapped inside their own dead bodies, which is likely why other live Jedi can still sense them. A sinister yet very smart plan on the Sith/Inquisitor’s part.
@@jordanelza8806 This gives me strong KOTOR vibes
@@111119803 As it should, for the reasons I listed.
Then that makes the Sith both serial killers and Force sucking vampires.
Something that I think is alluded to in lore about the Sith. But not really shown in the films.
If this is the case.
Then IF the Sith ever managed to gain complete control, they'd eventually commence to feeding off one another once Jedi and other resources were gone.
Since the more powerful the Sith....the more Force energy they'd require to maintain that power.
So, why didn't Obi Wan sense any of the captured and slain Jedi through the force prior to stumbling upon their preserved corpses?
Is it because he had disconnected himself from the force for the previous decade and was only just starting to utilize his own force abilities again?
i heard that the jedi entered a force wall before going to the orange gel. entering would limit their abilities and force presence ? idkkk
Because Disney have no clue what they are doing and dump all over the cannon
Yes it's clear that Obi-wan is a shell of his former self at this point. Even menial tasks are difficult for him in the force.
@@DarkLordofTheSith69 I mean Vader literally says "The Year's Have Made you Weak" ....how much more simple can you get. If you watch in bad faith in the first place, well then you are lost.
I am pretty sure it’s because he’s disconnected himself from the Force, yeah. He’s been slowly reconnecting himself to it since the start of the series but it’s clear he’s still somewhat struggling to get used to it again, though the fight sequence from this very episode shows that he is definitely improving :] I think he still may be cutting himself off from the “larger force” and only focusing on his own relation to it, if that makes sense. The Force is a vague enough thing that any interpretation can be made tbh lmao
I do appreciate they finally really show the purge and what it meant, they have been dancing around the topic for a long time, and now they are really tackling it
I just assumed they killed most of the Jedi. This is so much worse.
This is true. Is actually so dark, I'm kinda stunned they dared to go there with the series.
Episode 4 felt like filler episode, but this part was stunning
@@jeneden3492 ObiWan has been a lot darker than many other Star Wars entries. Cut off hand. Stormtrooper cut in half and you see it fully happen whereas in Mandalorian 1st episode the guy gets cut in half by the door but you don't really see it like this. Add to that the Tomb and how brutal Vader has been in Obiwan snapping necks on a whim. I'm loving them going darker than I ever expected them to go on Disney+. Seems they were testing the waters with Mando trying to be a little darker, but when they added the Netflix Marvel series like Daredevil they just said fuck it go for ti while still being allowed on Disney+.
The issue is that Disney, a childrens complex, owns star wars and thus it's hard for them to touch on much that is truly "dark" by human standards. In contrast, Star Wars canon (not the garbage we have now but the millions of pages of novels and more) made it clear that the star wars universe was NOT a pretty place. heck, the first star wars novel I ever read was Truce at Bakura and I distinctly remember how even in that tame book the scene of a woman having her soul removed was portrayed. Not to mention of course the many mentions (though no depictions that im aware of) of rape. Star wars was a universe during a dark time, repeated dark times honestly and while the lore shied away from being 'graphic", it never hid the ugly side of "humanity" in its pages.
What really scares me about the tombs... The Jedi encased in them could be alive and in a sort of conscious suspended animation, never ending sleep paralysis,
There emotions and force essence essentially being bait...
The reason why they have preserved all these bodies is still a mystery, but that reason would be very sinister. Remember what Sidious said to Anakin: The Dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural… Many of these abilities and schemes are the reason why these Jedi thombs exist in the first place
they preserve all those bodies for use in future episodes, movies, series and plot points. Star Wars has become a caricature of "but so and so didn't REALLY die.." so they just keep regurgitating the same names over and over again. like the stupidity that Darth Maul after being cut in half came back . laughable at best.
Force is balance. Adding weight on the light side increases the dark side also. There should only be two on the dark side. These rules focus all dark side power in just two.
Tell me you didn’t try to ise that line unironically.
Kinda sad to see master sinuses in there I like him a lot in the clone wars
Yes that is so sad that episode was great
Master Sinuses
Master Sinuses 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 are you serious lmao
@@patriot7108 Maybe not as serious as Master Ima-Gun Di, oh wait...
At least we got to see him in live action, and this episode mean more fans who didn't know him will learn about him and his cool lightsaber stick
Sith alchemy has also known to have been applied in necromancy (to be clear, this more in realm of zombies and transmutation than resurrection, which why Vader never bothered with it), so implications for reasons to store their bodies is very unpleasant.
This Could Lead to the Star Wars Zombies that We Know...
Totally, the Nightsisters already demonstrated the same ability, and since Palpatine learned from them at some point it's not hard to imagine that he might know some of these particular tricks as well.
I Just Wish Project Black Wing Death Troopers of the Star Wars Legends would be applied in live action just liked How MCU Applied Marvel Zombies into their own Cannon Universe imagining it would be somewhat Scary and Sinister and there would be lots of blood and Gore if that ever Happens...
Zombie Jedi..
Not the sweet Master Sinube. He doesn’t deserve to become a zombie:
It's a force wall, it limits their abilities and any who enter. This also explains the grand inquisitors a fate worse than death. If they live, Luke has help with his new order
I highly doubt they are alive
They might be comatose
Obi himself says its a tomb though, which implies they are dead.
@@ElfainDeLeon agreed, it looks almost like Amber.
I really think it's an amber like substance which preserves their corpse
This raises an interesting possibility. In the Legends continuity, a Skywalker descendant named Cade obtains the power Anakin always wanted: the power to cheat death. He does this through a unique healing ability that even allows him to revive people who have recently died.
The bodies of these jedi have been perfectly preserved since a short time after their individual deaths, to the point where the force still lingers in them. So, what if someone with Cade's ability ventured to Fortress Inquisitorius and revived the Jedi stored there? If it's true they were keeping as many Jedi there as possible, then the Jedi order could literally be resurrected.
You mean like Ben Solo does.
@@georgeferrier9461 No, this was a different ability. Using it didn't reduce the user's lifespan.
Sounds like a nice ability…but man it sounds so corny at the same time
Like too overpowered imo.
But hey, Legends people went wild
Rey: What power do you have?
Cade: Your Force Heal, but much better written
Terrible theory
What’s really interesting to me, is the theory that luring Jedi to the tomb is likely the reason the Fortress Inquisitorium has no shields, as opposed to typical imperial hubris.
It’s so easy to infiltrate because it’s not a base… it’s a trap.
Oh, that makes so much sense now
*Admiral Ackbar starring into the distance* “if only they listened”
Also, look at the faces of the trapped Jedi. To me at least, it looks like the Jedi are either positioned to mimic the exact moment when they were caught by the Inqusitorius, or they were literally somehow frozen in time the instant they were caught. It’s a trophy for the Inquisitors to see exactly how much fear they cause, and thus use that fear to bolster their own power in the dark side. It’s really fucked up. Literal “photographs” of a person who knows they are about to die. Absolutely disturbing.
Interesting idea 🤔
Kind of stupid since it's apparently so easy to escape from. All you need is two non-space faring speeders
When I saw the tombs, I was devastated to see Jedi Knights, Jedi Younglings, and Jedi Council members entombed like that in a orange jell tomb
Who are those people?
Stupendous said he will do another video trying to identify the Jedi
So are they all dead because they all seemed to be preserved before they died so maybe they aren’t dead but are preserved for later use like being frozen in carbonate they may not be dead. What if they could come out of the tomb if they aren’t dead?
@@louieone.wheel_l1429 They’re dead. Even the ones that were captured, either turned into inquisitors if they were given the chance, killed or eventually be drowned in a preserving gel that probably solidifies like we see here... to me it looks like they were placed in there then they filled the cell up with that gel. So basically a solidified cube with someone inside.
@@louieone.wheel_l1429 I think they are dead, but their Force energy is trapped.
This scene was so dark and fucked up.... I love it
Darth Sidious is savage. Using Jedi Bodies as bait...Pure Evil..
I would like a series that delves into his backstory more. Did he turn evil or was he always evil? Who trained him? Lots of questions I would like to see answered on screen.
@@athisio836 We have nothing explained by Disney on that.. but Disney has not debunked any Legends explanations of his origin either. As far as Legends goes, from a young age he was a spoiled, manipulative, and sadistic kid who grew up in a wealthy family of politicians. So yes he was always an evil person, full of selfishness and a lust for great power. This is actually part of why he is such an overwhelming user of the Darkside, is that every part of his being fully embraces the Dark Side, unlike others like Dooku and Vader who had good redeeming qualities to them, no matter how much they tried to suppress the good within.
I got to say no matter how underwhelming the action and animation in rebels was but the storyline was solid all the new and old characters they brought in done perfectly I still want to see them find Ezra and him hook up with Sabine because let’s face it at the end of the day Star Wars is like a romance action novel Before it was a kids show
Yes I want to have Ezra or Sabine come back so bad!!
well we might have him and sabine shown in season 3 of mando...because they said season 3 will have some sort of mando attack on a facility....im talking about a massive mando attack
@@markrayes2973 he’s gonna be in the Ashoka show along with Sabine as confirmed so I highly doubt he will be in mando they’ll want to do the live action reveal where they’re relevant
Inquisitor's lightsabrr: Elicopter elicopter
also a cool thing to notice in episode 4, is how obi wan wields his lightsaber. to me it looked heavy to him, because of his 10 years of no training and just hiding. he cannot wield it like he used too. which to me looked pretty dope, instead of having obi wan wield his lightsaber and fight like he used too. it shows how time has effected his way and his fighting style
It could be that they are holding them as a form of trap, but after 10 years (the point of the Obi-wan show)... I'm sure many Jedi have reached a point where they stop trying to sniff out every scent. There must be another reason they keep them, and I think it's related to Plagueis' experiments... probably being continued by Sidious.
That scene was an awesome scene I hope there’s more like that, and I want to see more preserved Jedi
I have a theory, what if they are being preserved alive and not entirely dead, so the Force itself is not able to try to balance itself out and create another Force sensitive person to take the place?
Damm, even darksiders are Sidious's victims so the Sith will have a monopoly on an entirely Darkside Force.
This is what Darth Malak did on the Starforge in Kotor.
I have a theory that they kept them alive (like Maul) and wanted to try force them to the dark side like the second sister
Definitely a living hibernation chamber where all u can do is see your other jedi in the same dire situation
@@bub-games fate worse than death like the inquisitor says in rebels
@@lorenzog7811 What if this is far worse than it appears at first glance? What if they're not only still alive, but conscious and aware of their captivity? Imagine if they could even see Kenobi, but have no way to call for help.
@@chrisevans6548 it's frighteningly possible. Also Vader could have tied their souls to the place kind of like he does to the inquisitor in the comics
This was shown in Starwars Empire at War 2 the game Spoil alert ⚠️ if you haven't play the game don't read ---‐----- Night Sister goes to a Tomb and finds thousands of frozen Sith Troops from what looks like Knights of the Old Republic game and there in Legands of a female force user that's been frozen from the force wars so it's possible.
3:16 "we know this due to the science of how the force itself works"
One of the best sentences probably in all of history
Imagine, what is in Darth Vaders Castle??
I don't really want to think about that
I was thinking various setups of his armor.. like iron man.. perhaps one with racing stripes. 😂
Seeing tere sinube gave me that heartache.
So if these "tombs" still exist in the future the Jedi could clone them without age enhancements & give the force sensitive younglings to surviving Jedi to take on as Padawans & train like Jango did for Boba Fett.
you can't clone force abilities
it has been tried multiple times and it just doesn't work, the only times it DID wirk where all non-canon, on the exception from SW 9... but i think we can agree that SW 7-9 never happened
@@DarkLegacy636 ethics are an issue which is probably why only the Sith figure it out.
Vader cloned a many of Galen, but only two were successful and the rest went horribly wrong.
Sidious never cloned himself exactly but instead was able to transfer himself into a new body, which he tried to do by cloning himself, but the bodies couldn't withstand the amount of power Sidious had in the dark side which is why he needed Rey to give her body to him.
Just after i watched This episode i continued my watch of clone wars. I came to the episode where We meet Tera Sanubi and didnt even recognize him. I thought to myself how he would have looked like in live action then some moments after i found he was the guy in the episode😭. Clone wars is my favourite series on Disney plus right now.
What's worse is knowing that he was a teacher and mentor to Ahsoka. Ahsoka loved him. And Anakin knew that.
@@carlycrays2831 Yeah😢
Thanks a lot for this video, you've explained a lot what I've seen in Kenobi and Rebels. Clever tactic.
That youngling really hits Hard bc thinking about it, he was probably 7-12 years old, he’d be a young man in his late teens or early 20s. That’s genuinely so sad to think about
I actually fought back tears when I saw master sunoobay ( the old guy in that clone wars episode ) had died.
We all knew he was dead, but this is just so horrific I had to turn away
I imagine that once Palpatine was killed in ROTJ and especially once the Rbels took control of Coruscant the remaining Inquisitors would've been shown no mercy and hunted down ruthlessly.
The inquisitors were supposedly wiped out by the empire itself once they had served their purpose. By the time of "A New Hope", the Jedi were assumed to be extinct and the inquisitors had all disappeared.
@@Jim-Tuner ooohhh makes sense considering the empire but still man that is pretty brutal
Damn man top notch content and put out fast. Good stuff
I love that they’re tapping into these darker aspects of Star Wars during this obviously dark time
You missed that the youngling was one fo the group that was seen in the first episode running away from the chaos at the jedi temple. Also... here is a theory. That fifth sisters grudge against Kenobi is that he was the one who found her and brought her to the jedi temple.
Third Sister. Not Fifth.
Oh, that would be awful. Or Anakin forced her to betray her friends.
when I watched this episode of Obi Wan Kenobi and saw all those bodies of the Jedi Order from the day Anakin turned Vader led the 501st into temple I was shocked and speach less
Thanks so much for the video!
It’s crazy and shows a new aspect as to show how far Vader will go. Absolutely love it!
I feel like this is foreshadowing for when the Grand Inquisitor comes back.
I'm wondering if storing the bodies is (aside from the trophy aspect, because that is totally something a Sith or Inquisitor would do) also may have something to do with the aspect of several dark side relics or the dying Jedi that Darth Malek keeps on the Star Forge in "Knights of the Old Republic": Force batteries. Think about it...they had clearly murdered and left that other Jedi strung up on Tatooine in Episode one of the show. Maybe the ones in the tombs are not fully dead. Maybe they are only "mostly dead" (shout out to the real hero of "The Princess Bride", Miracle Max) or in a vegetative state / some kind of stasis like being stored in Carbonite. This way if they are feeling drained or are say....stabbed thru the torso by their petulant peon underling...they always have a reserve of power to pull from. I mean...if you fight Malek as a Light Side character in KOTOR you basically sit there and fight him 6 times as he rips the last vestiges of the Force and life from a bunch of nearly dead Jedi from Dantooine after he slaughtered the temple there. Imagine if you managed to nearly beat Vader to a pulp and then he literally rips all of that power and life from all of the nearby corpses / comatose Jedi in that room...that's the kind of truly unnatural things the Sith are capable of.
I was thinking that too. They captured Jedi who they didn't end up killing and put them in a comatose state for some reason. The rest of that though.. That's a damn good reason. I can see the Third Sister or even Fifth Brother trying something like that.
Vader would be downright terrifying more than he is if he pulled something like that.
@@jordanbranden506 The first time I fought Malek in that game and he did that I was like: Crap...do I have enough health items?!? After that I always took force Drain as a power regardless of alignment, if for no other reason than to get final light side points. In the old Xbox version (god, 20 years ago now)using Force Drain would give you Dark Side alignment....but using it on the Jedi at the last fight as a "mercy" would shorten the fight by 4-5 rounds (meaning you only fought the final boss twice instead of 7 times I think) and give you double the light side alignment for doing it. I'm really looking forward to the update to that game...if for no other reason than FINALLY being able to do Juhani's side quest and potentially unlock having 3 Dark Jedi / Sith for your final party. You couldn't do that in the Xbox version since the quest wouldn't go off on Korriban. So anytime you went evil you could only have 2 Force Users and either a Droid or Canderous Ordo as backup.
Thank you! I don't know how this wasn't mentioned in s. W. T. 's breakdown
This makes much more sense I remember watching that Star Wars rebel episode and was super confused on why Master Luminara Unduli was in a casket I recognized the first Jedi off the rip so sad for the Jedi Knights,Former Jedi council members and Jedi younglings that was in the tomb in Obi-Wan Kenobi episode 4
An interesting theory….. As I am listening, I’m beginning to think that the more force sensitive bodies they hold, the bigger prey they can lure. Palpatine knows that Yoda survived their duel in the senate. I would think that, of all the surviving Jedi, Palpatine still has some reason to fear Yoda (who has carefully hidden himself amongst the dark side energy on Dagobah). Palpatine probably doent fear Yoda in terms of another duel. But the idea that Yoda might try to build a new Jedi order in exile that could one day challenge the empire would be troubling for the Emperor. And we know that Yoda’s connection to the force allows his to sense beings across the galaxy (his reaction to Order 66). So it’s a bit of a long shot, but I think that drawing Yoda out would seem to Palpatine, who has no knowledge of Luke and Leia, to be the ultimate goal. A huge step towards making his empire more secure.
What puzzled me was why they looked so alive, like they were posed. I didn't see any wounds or tattered clothing on any of the bodies, it looks like they were frozen in time. The youngling in particular, why go through the trouble of keeping his helmet on (except of course for the audience to know that was a youngling)
When hunters stuff and mount their trophy animals they will clean up wounds and position them to make them look alive. Perhaps it's Jedi taxidermy? I understand what you are saying though if they were actually frozen they would have more of the Han Solo in carbonite look to them not creepily posing.
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Favorite scene from anything star wars so far it was crazy!
This shit was real dark in this episode, especially seeing the youngling. However I appreciate Debra Chow not playing it safe and giving us G-rated material in this series.
I don't know what I was expecting from this series, but the sheer number of dead children has been shocking.
@@carlycrays2831 have we been watching the same show...? Where are all these dead children you've been seeing??
@@mofftucker9658 bro vader snapped a kids neck and another kids body was put on display that’s enough kids dying 🤣
@@mofftucker9658 Child getting necked snapped, the literal dead child here, the school shooting cold open.
@@goestheboom5211 lmao ok so 2 is the "sheer number" of dead children. I was just curious what that number was. We are in fact watching the same show
Seeing these inquisitors from Rebels shows just how different the 3rd brother is from the Kenobi version. If I remember correctly, his head is shaped like his helmet. It's actually shaped like a sting ray or manta ray, tail and all.
Everybody had strange head shapes in that show. Even the humans.
i enjoyed this greatly, thanks for putting this together bro! my favourite dinosaurs are therizinasaurus, apatasaurus, pentaceratops, velociraptor and t-rex (i can never decide)
I really like your analysis of the situation.
In the Plagueis book he kills his master and others and watches as the midiclorins leave their bodies. I’m thinking maybe for cloning force sensitives research
There could be an attempt to create a Force Wound by gathering Jedi that died under terrible circumstances.
What
@@jeff230394 star wars knights of the old republic 2: the sith lords. look up darth nihilus, possibly one of the most terrifying dark lords of star wars. he was a void in the force almost like a black hole that fed off of other force users and i think could absorb the force from planets themselves. dude was so strong upon his body being destroyed he attached himself to his mask and armor, i think, to whoever puts it on he takes over.
That was the best part of the episode.
3:06 to 3:16 I believe this video gives a very good explanation. Thank you. I also think is very similar to what Darth Malek did in KOTOR with dead Jedi on the Star Forge: he imprisoned the bodies of Jedi that were, according to Malek “For all intents and purposes dead, except for one difference: I have not allowed them to become one with the Force.”
When the doors open to the tomb, just before zooming to Kenobi, is that not Plo Koon (on the right, chamber closest to camera or @7:51 on this video the one on the left)? Surely that requires an explanation, considering he was blown up, or did he somehow survive?
Any other suggestions as to who else it could be are welcome?
Doesn’t even look like plo moon
Filoni would never
Right but the alternative theory is that they are actually still alive and frozen in this resin looking stuff. None of the bodies have injuries. Keeping them alive would allow for a more prolonged harvest over decades and a larger cloning program. I don’t think they are there to be bait. Otherwise Obi-Wan would have sensed that over 100 Jedis were in a room he was about to enter. It is also worth noting that having this many Jedi would make the fortress a high-value target for rebel cells, whereas one Jedi would probably not draw much interest outside of former Jedi. I’m guessing their encasement somehow prevented them from being detected through the force.
I'm pretty sure the first one actually has blaster marks, so I think they're all dead, but I could be wrong
I love how much of the backstory/context you write for LucasFilms. I hope they hire you one day. 💯
the greatness of the SITH is something truly special
There is a theory i have about how the light and dark side of the force works. If you see them as reservoirs for each user to tap in through there living tissues, then it could also mean that the more of light users you have for example, the less they can tap in the reservoir because it is shared by all. It would also explain why the sith achieve power so easily because they are only a few of them taping in a huge reservoir. We can assume Palpatine knows this and it would explain multiple things. First why he keeps these corpses to prevent the emergence of a powerful light force user that will come to balance his own power. His satisfaction of the aftermath of Anakin and Obi-wan duel, damaging Vader so much he can never hope to be as powerful as him. It would also justify his goal to merge all the sith in one body in the last movie because it would allow him to not only having all the darside energy available in the reservoir but also to get the one that is kept by all the past powerful darkside users that are often not really dead because the darksisde is tied to some kind of necromancy power. I think Skywalkers are the exception to this rule because there are beings made by the force they can actually tap in both "tanks" which is also why they can come back from being corrupted by the darkside something that jedis consider impossible in the prelogy maybe because they are no precedents at least in the movies and series so far if i am not mistaken. I hope the lore is more explored on this topic to see if i am close to something here :)
I like all you said here, except that the Skywalkers are not the only Jedi that can use the dark and not lose control.... Mace Windu.
The Rule of Two was to preserve the Sith order. When there were more than two multiple weaker Sith could cooperate to kill a more powerful Sith Lord weakening the order and potential infighting would eventually destroy the order. With two the more powerful master was to embody the power and the apprentice was to learn and eventually overthrow the master of proven strong enough and then train a new apprentice
that is so sickkk they just keep these people dead bodies in tombs as some type of trophys
Its based
Not sure if they’re dead
@@goestheboom5211 they are dead because they all got killed during order 66 six
@@johnathanjones7917 did you see them get killed cause I don’t remember seeing them get killed? Do you see any wounds or injury’s cause I don’t see any? Make it make sense how are they dead
@@goestheboom5211 I am sure must of them got killed during order 66 but it's hard to believe to be honest it's a hard one
it’s crazy cause i was just watching a video about Lightsaber Lost and Master Senubay and then I watch Kenobi and see him like that! He was a great Jedi honestly.
Oh snap...i havent seen this yet! Talk about mind blowing horror for Obi Wan to see and for viewers!!!!!
Yea but are they dead or in suspended animation and if they are can they be released
that what i what to know
King shadow out here commenting three times
Well it might be a start of a Dark Ritual by Commenting 3 times
and liking his own comments
@@Only1199 well it is a very insecure person to like their own comment. Everyone likes getting a Like on their own comments but liking your own comment is a bit much.
He keeps deleting my comments of calling him out on piracy lmao
@@ZombieKiLA1871 king shadow?
*"Not even the dead are free from his war-mongering"* -Ratchet, Transformers Prime
thanks for lwtting us know in the intro or title there'd be kenobi spoilers :D
Pretty creepy scene in the tomb.
Can you use DNA to transfer FORCE? Or was that what they were trying to do?
Yes but that was a legend’s thing grievous tried it
No you cant,midichlorians know who they belong to.It woul cripple or kill the person they would bé transferred to.
Awesome Vid
I gotta say im impressed with OWK. It's pretty dark and has some legitimately intense action scenes. The seeker droids were scary
Your assuming that they are dead. Yes Luminara Unduli is obviously dead but the Jedi on the episode don't look dead. They look like they were put in stasis. None of them look damaged in any way. They are just frozen. It's possible that they are trying to corrupt them with the darkside concentrated there or saving them for later processing.
Obi wan clearly called it a tomb. I think the writters are trynna tell you something.
This is one of the reasons I have to take brakes when watching star wars. Its very dark and morbid and the worse part is their is little justice Vader gets forgiven for all his horrible actions just like that, without punishment he should have at least lived long enough to feel guilt and be haunted by his actions.
Welcome to reality. People don't always pay for their crimes. Besides, he paid with his life ultimately.
@@VogtTD Still got to be a force ghost. And star wars is main story is about how the dark side is self harmful and how the sith are so evil they kill each other. It just feels like they are still trying to convince me he's unredeemable despite the fact he has already been redeamed and the the jedi still forgive him.
@@cosygoose1813 The Jedi were no walk in the park either. They forcefully took children from their families, made ticking time bombs by forcing them to suppress their emotions, abandoning them when they weren't 'good enough' and the worst of all ..... they never helped Anakin's mother despite his visions and the fact she was a slave and if they did then there would never have been a Vader to begin with. They said many times that only a " Sith deals in absolutes" despite their own hypocrisy. The only ones I truly feel bad for are the younglings but for that, even I am horrified with Vader's actions but I still blame the Jedi because they brought those innocent children into the temple as infants to become slaves in all but name.
Anakin had a tragedy that made him into what he is but his moron of a son just decides to repeat those idiocies.
@@bharatkashyap7200 Not all jedi were like that, it was just some really bad ones. The no attachments rule was a bit extreme but all jedi had attachments in some form or another. But that was because they needed to learn to let go. Jedi including younglings can always quit if they wanted. As for being taken, their parents always had a choice to keep them. Overall the orders not to bad it can use mager improvements like not being involved in the Republic. Anakins mother they had little to no power on tatoorine it was run by huts. They can't priotize anakins mother over any other slave. The jedi aren't all bad this was pretty much the plot on why ashoka left the order.
@@cosygoose1813 What I said is all true.
They had the power to free one person. Cliegg Lars bought and freed her and they could have done the same but they didn't and also stopped Anakin from contacting or helping her in any way. If Anakin was found by them as an infant then they would have just freed him and taken him without giving any thought to his mother.
Quitting is not the thing I'm talking about. I'm talking about those who were expelled from the order for the stupidest of reasons, imagine being in their shoes and think how they feel when they are abandoned by the only thing they have ever known their whole life such as where would they go ? how will they survive ?. The damages are psychological and can drive a person to grief and despair and the way they have lived their whole life ... they won't know how to deal with them .... and they could also commit suicide or live in depression that they meant nothing to those who raised them
No child should have to be forced to never act like a normal child should. They have to form attachment with something, they need parental figures in life.
Parents were not given any choice and it's canon.
Amazing love star wars 😍 ✨
@The Stupendous Wave
As much as the Dark Side are using the Tomb Collection of Dead Jedi Knights and Younglings to draw in Jedis that are still alive, a more sinister plan I reckon is for the Dark Side to raise them from The Dead and turn them into Sith Warlords, Inquisitors and Army.
As Palpatine guaranteed Anakin Skywalker before that his dead mother and wife can be *"resurrected from the dead,"* Darth Vader's plan is likely to do the same.
I think your theory is a little flawed. If they wanted to keep their bodies to lure other jedi out of hiding, why would they lump them all together at one place?
Why didn't Kenobi already sense them nearby like Kanen did in Rebels?
Why would they keep them in such a dangerous place where no jedi would normally probably dare to infiltrate?
There would have been thousands of Jedi so there's probably alot more bodies around being used all over the galaxy. Obiwan disconnected himself from the force for a decade so his sense may have not been as sharp.
Keep them all in one place may allow them to hide the dark presence of the Inquisitors in the Fortress (more light to be felt then dark)
Kenobi disconnected/cut himself from the force to hide and not be found
The Fort could also be seen as a giant Trap... you may easily enter it...but not escape it
yet thats only speculation
So is it possible they entombed and some alive? I equate this to the amber (sap) sustained several microbes for millions of years
That is what I was thinking
One word....I Love It
That's a very good explanation of Jedi Force Mathematics 🤯
Need to watch again to let this sink in.🤔
Let's be honest you can tell that kanan didn't get much into his training of he thinks that luminara would be prefect for ezra especially that one won't let people be sacrificed and one doesn't leave anyone behind
I think it's more that Kanan was very traumatized by Order 66 and felt insecure about training Ezra when his own training was so incomplete.
Seeing this things that Vader did he does not deserve redemption
I've been saying this for years. Him saving Luke doesn't bring any of these people back. It doesn't undo anything.
This scene was definitely written & executed by SW lovers! It opens the door to so many possibilities & horizons! Maybe we can use the same bodies for good purposes too, preserve the Force. Genius!
I heard "especially heinous" and Law and Order SVU immediately popped in my head 😅😅
I gotta say....kudos to Disney for allowing them to showcase just how ugly Order 66 really was....
what's that
@@Someirishmf order 66? It’s what killed the Jedi order
@@FixableHQ oh no i ment kudos
Disney knows they can get dark AF.
I pray that everyone is having a blessed day and night so far in the Lord Jesus Christ name amen!!!!
Amazing
It was truly dark to see that the youngling still had his training helmet on from the night of 66 a truly grim and dark way to show how they are preserved. Just think about it, a youngling still in his training uniform, dead and preserved from the order 66 event, almost a decade after.
I see another theory, in Star Wars force sensetives they have always been able to sense how strong the opponent is, how much force is in him. Yoda felt a strong surge in force (so hard that he grabbed his heart during the Jedi Purge) because the amount that passed to him exceeded him. Force is like a consumable resource, the fewer people using it, the better for those who use it NOW because they can use more of this resource. The rule is simple "Fewer Jedi there are, the stronger they are" (see Luke, Rey and everyone who survived Order 66 are stronger than the other Jedi in the Republic), the same works for the Sith, the rule of two is to have as much dark force as possible. With an excessive amount of dark force (as Palpatine used to say "UNLIMITED POWER!"), They can defeat the Jedi with ease. Holding the bodies causes less power to other Jedi, making them weaker and easier to defeat.
Whomever read this I pray that everyone is having abundant health in the Lord Jesus Christ name amen!!!!
Something else that you're not considering. The concentration of dead force-users can theoretically be used to create a Nexus in the force. A place where the force flows particularly strong. This would be a good place for growth and meditation. It also shows the inquisitors what would happen to them if they weren't with the Empire.
Wow we are learning some messed up stuff about the empire at first I already knew that they were bad but the more I learn about the lore the more scarier it becomes
The tombs were literally the only cool thing in that episode, we only have 2 left.
No matter what this Obi Wan series have been a failure in my eyes, disneys takeover have been awful. Its like they purposely make borring episodes, like only 1 or 2 cool scenes the first 4 episodes and try to finish with a banger to change people's mind.
6 episodes are just not enough, and especially with so little action. Should be 8-10 at bare minimum, and a lot more action and important lore or thing that can explain other things in the franchise.
Or pull more in like the bad batch clones.
It genuinely has potential man but I don’t get the same excitement as clone wars rebels or even prequels
It's quite genius and very dark how they trap the Jedi!!
There's always going to be plenty Jedi to catch and keeping a supply of deceased Jedi to catch more Jedi, which gives more supply and thus the cycle will continue!!
Excellent channel I'm subscribed now.
the transition on 3:16 makes it seem like her eyes are looking in separate directions
This just randomly came to me yesterday and I was like *sudden clarity Stormtrooper*
Great video, yes, we all want to know who the tombed jedi were. Thanks
Dude i was in tears seeing the jedi like that and even the youngling with his training helm still on. It was so creepy
Honestly, the whole wall of dead Jedi freaked me out so much. And then I rewatched the episode with Luminara's corpse and that didn't help.
Rebels was awesome and Kanan was a really cool character. You could tell he was fearless and confident from the start of Bad Batch when he was a young Padawan but to say he was a “great” Jedi like some do is incorrect and even he knows it. He and the crew accomplished some really awesome things and for having no master his use of the force and dueling/deflecting was impressive as such but even the GI instantly recognized and called out Kanan’s predictable use of Soresu (Form III) when dueling and knew he was Caleb Dume Padawan of Depa Bilaba, who was killed during O66 while Kanan escaped as a kid. Curious what his midichlorian count was
Kanan to me probably had a higher m count than most and was among the group of elite younglings in the Ashoka episodes