Bowser's Fury Should Be a Blueprint for Future Nintendo Projects
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Bowser's Fury holds the keys to how I want Nintendo to develop games moving forward.
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This video was edited by the lovely Kane!
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Sorry my colors are a little off. I'm still working on my new studio setup and it's more obvious than ever that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing when it comes to camera work.
That’s ok
Pog
I like the high contrast.
It’s ok Arlo
There really fine lol
Why is no one talking about how great that outro was?
IKR!? That's all I've been looking for in the comments
It's like an Arlo YTP x)
Because we’re just so sad that he loves Kane more than us :(
Goddamn amazing outro
That was hilarious.
“I love Kane more than you”
K that hurt a smidge
“I love Kane more than you”
Well, he’s not wrong
Can we take a moment to applaud whoever decided at Nintendo to bring Bowser Jr. into the mix in his Sunshine form??
We can indeed, though I would just like to point out an error that person made: Bowser Jr. was left-handed in Sunshine, yet he's holding the brush with his right hand in Bowser's Fury. It's a small error, but after they made Link right-handed in Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild, it's starting to get annoying.
@@matthewmuir8884 yeah I need my representation
I'm sorry, but did you just throw a cat off a cliff to collect that item at 3:32
Oh snap good catch
That was pure genius.
I do that in real life sometimes
That's what I did too
@@-BEN- Hey if it works for ya!
Bowser’s Fury is a great example of how Nintendo doesn’t need to innovate and make something never done before to make something of quality. They took old stuff from 3D World and put it in a new world similar to Odyssey, and pretty much everyone loves this game.
In a way they did innovate by combing element of 3D World with Odyssey. They made something new and fun out of existing ideas. It might not be completely new but it still works.
@@koifish835 I agree. It’s definitely enough for me!
I wish it was longer. It’s so good.
@@localwillow9948 Seriously, I've put thought to it and that's literally my only complaint - how short it is.
@@localwillow9948 No it's short length makes it more compact fun, I left too many games because they dragged at times.
Time for Nintendo to ignore all of this, not do any of it, and then *also* not do what their current pattern is and instead switch to some third unknown thing nobody could ever predict. As usual.
So Mole Mania sequel then ?
@@supergoron1 if you can predict it, they aren’t doing it
New Switch release: Mario Says Swears, the Mario game where he says Swear Words
Sora not in Smash, but Mario in Kingdom Hearts 4
@@KingMe-qz2hr fair enough
Okay but the ending of this vid was a marvel xD
arlo just got YTP'd in his own video
My feelings are shattered. He likes Kane more than us...
Sorry, THEM'S THE BREAKSSSSS
@@KanesTheName Yeah, you can consider yourself lucky, to be the one who is more liked by Arlo!
@@BBWahoo What's that supposed to mean?
@@BBWahoo Arlo isn't a muppet, he's just as alive as all of us.
@@theAstarrr whaat, that wasn't edited! He clearly said, that he liked Kaden more than us!
Arlo+Ceave on the same day talking about similar things. Amazing
I know right
I was just thinking that
hoo ray
I already finished watching Ceave about 15min ago.
Id like to see them collab on something
They should like bring back Mario's punching/kicking moves
I'd love to see that in a power-up based Mario. IIRC, the first New Super Mario Bros was planned to have that or something.
Hell no
@@VonFirflirch It's actually not clear if those were actually intended to make it to the final game though; if you look at some of the earliest prerelease footage of NSMB it was basically the SM64DS engine squashed into a sidescroller (you can even see Mario do other 64 moves like the sideflip and longjump).
And his breakdance move from 64
@@BBWahoo nice
While I love the idea, I think Nintendo is still going to leave these extra slices of games (like Bowser's Minions and Bowser Jr.'s Journey) as exclusive to re-released games / ports. They only seem to crack their molds and try something fresh on a grand scale when their stuff isn't selling too well.
Using this model, they could also revive obscure franchises with a small, relatively low risk proof of concept to test the waters, then make a full release later if it succeeds.
(fingers crossed) Punch-Out, Punch-Out, Punch-Out, Punch-Out, Punch-Out...
I could definitely see this happening to Star Fox or Metroid.
F zero could really do with just a tiny downloadable game that pleases fans and. Makes. Them. Shut. Up.
@@choppiemcdonald Not an F-Zero fan, but the last F-Zero that was available for everyone was GP Legend on the GBA in 2003. Since then, nothing. I honestly think Zelda fans might be the whiniest and self-entitled in terms of waiting for a title release. While waiting for BOTW, they were soooo impatient, despite getting LBW, Ocarina of Time and MM remasters on 3DS and Wind Waker and Twilight Princess remakes on the Wii U.
@@ShamesBond1984 with the big blue and mute city remakes in the newest game, i really hope this is the way they go with the series
Kane's editing at the last bit was phenomenal
I’d love a Mario game where it had a major focus on power ups. Imagine if in one mission you needed to use the Super Acorn to rise up from wind currents and once that’s completed you could use the Super Acorn to make another mission easier.
Imagine a mission where a Frog Suit is required like a race. But midway you can get the Penguin suit to access another route.
A mission where the Ice Flower is needed to run through a cold lake but you can also bring over a Fire Flower to stay warm and be able to swim instead.
I definitely be in the audience of "I'd buy Bowser's Fury for $20, but I wouldn't rebuy 3D World + Fury for at full retail."
Same
As someone who has 3d world secondhand cheap, I'm not against it. But I would drop $20 in a heartbeat if they had it listed separately digital only.
I'd be with you if this wasn't the first time I bought 3d world.
Same boat here; I have 3D World on the Wii U and a Switch and Bowser's Fury looks great, though I wouldn't re-buy the Swtich port willy nilly. There are some other first-party titles I'm still looking at nabbing for the $60/80 CAD price point.
But it is Nintendo, if bowser’s fury were a standalone they’d find the way to sell it at full price.
Has Kane ever considered making YTPs? Because I think he has potential.
oh my god that ending. Your editor deserves a bonus for that.
It’s like if the M&L remake side stories were actually fun.
That's exactly it, haha. When they announced the port and I saw it was another [Old Game]+[Add-On Side Content] title I thought to myself "jeez, they're STILL trying to do this"? But I was pleasantly surprised when Bowser's Fury turned out to be... y'know, GOOD.
I thought they were fun...
Jr's Journey is good
This is actually something Hal has been doing with Kirby. They released smaller eshop titles reusing old assets and ideas (Super Kirby Clash/Kirby Fighters 2)
Yeah, those games are underrated
@@cosmicspacething3474 I hope they make a Sequel for Kirby’s Blowout Blast. If they made a Sequel to Kirby Team Clash Deluxe, then Blowout Blast is likely to come.
@@CZcamsr-xi6qo Well, who needs that when we got a FULL 3D MAINLINE KIRBY GAME WOOHOO
It’s even got some Blowout Blast styled challenges towards the end of the game!
It's so great to see Arlo's face after so long! It's just such a pleasure to see him! :D
His last video was 2 days ago.
You alright?
@@InnerRise His face not a video
@@InnerRise I just checked his past few videos and it seems that it has been over a month since we last saw his face!
Dude doesn't age at all
He's never showed his ugly mug 🍺
I want a mario game with multiple “kingdoms” like in odyssey, but with every kingdom functioning like Lake Lapcat in Bowser’s Fury. This was much better as a collectathon than Odyssey. This as a full game with Odyssey’s movement mechanics would be a DREAM!
Kane making official Arlo YTPs gives me life
My only gripe with Bowser’s fury is that we can’t play any of the other characters aside from Mario and Bowser Jr in multiplayer.
Completely agree. companies should be more comfortable selling smaller games for less than full price especially Nintendo who's experimental style would be perfect for it.
My main problem with triple A games is the need to feel dedicated to them with their 100+ hour gameplay, making it harder to branch out. Bigger is better, but a sizeable experience would be nice.
@@Antasma1 Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. I think replayability is important, and if the future of video games is $70, then more content is vital, but I don't think games need that much length to be worth it. For example, the Resident Evil games are full single player experiences and are generally pretty short, and I would say they are fully worth $60.
We need Skyward sword + Groose's fury
I read this as "Goose's Fury" and I just imagined the Untitled Goose appearing in a Zelda game
Gunpei Yokoi said it best with the "lateral thinking of weathered technology". They could cheaply put out games using old assets that they have down packed. They could very quickly and cheaply put together a few "AA" studios, or maybe allow indie studios to use the licenses if they use the older tech.
I really love seeing Arlo so hopeful and excited about things that are totally not gonna happen
The first time I scaled that massive tower in the snowy area with the windmills my mind was struggling to keep up with how awesome it was, rarely had I seen an area be so cool and surprisingly more challenging than many other Mario levels.
It also reminds you of two separate games as well: Odyssey with Bonneton-music focusing more on a winter landscape and Galaxy 2 given the island’s gimmick is a windmill like Cloudy Court Galaxy.
I have to agree! I can’t wait to see what the future holds!!
There hasn't been a 3d mario since odyssey XD
How does that work...?
Bro, there hasn't been a 3D mario since odyssey though?
There hasn't been a 3d Mario since Odyessey dumbass XD
Yeah
Thanks for the final message Arlo. I'm a bit hurt, but Kane deserves that love I suppose
Mario Maker is another example of an asset reusing game that turns those assets on their head and utilizes them in a very creative way. I mean, half of Mario Makers assets are 30 years old.
I think Mario Maker might have been Nintendo's best return-on-investment for a game ever. They were like "Here, give us your money and make your own damn games." lol
Sanctioned mass-outsourcing of game creation, and all for the low price of never creating a 2d Mario game ever again.
If I’m being honest this is the most effort they put into a switch port so far I agree I hope they keep doing this in the future i’m looking at you donkey Kong!
funky mode: :’(
Funky Kongs HD abs took many years of effort to create.
Speaking of retro studios.....
metroid prime 4 teaser when
"Everyone would buy a new 3d world every year!" While showing new super mario bros deluxe footage
To be fair, people did buy those.
"use pre-existing assets to create small free-to-play versions of the biggest multiplayer Nintendo games"
You mean...a game demo?! 😱
No that’s him saying using the pre existing assets not giving you access to the game temporarily
@@interdimensionalgoober8769 like demos? you realize alot of demos are made with assets different than the final assets used in the finished products right? Nintendo is never going to put effort or money into making something for free, they already have tons of fanboys who are happy to pay 60 bucks for a 2 hour dlc and a game they already played years ago
@@Burger_pants
1. No, that is not the definition of a demo.
2. Stick to a single argument to put yourself into.
so... make 3ds downloadable games that were pretty small, but good?
"Don't bother playing video games. Pikmin stinks. Breath of the wild is a miserable affair, but Starfox zero is stroke of expert game design: is a great game, its beautiful. One more thing, I love Kane more than you. See ya later."
9:37 WAIT! A Zelda game where you actually play as Zelda would be AWESOME! I had this in my mind for a while, but it would great if you learned spells instead of using items, and you got blessings from the different deities of Hyrule.
Yeah; a Zelda game where you play as Zelda instead of Link could be fantastic. Spells instead of items would be a great idea, though I hope it would be done better than how Adventure of Link did it.
Here's another idea for a Legend of Zelda spin-off that I can think of: kind-of like how Torna: the Golden Country was a prequel to XC2 that expanded upon a tragic event in the game's backstory, how about a direct prequel to Breath of the Wild that would expand upon what happened before and during the Great Calamity? I can see a ton of potential with something like that, and I could've sworn that such a game was being made back in 2020 given that there were all kinds of advertisements for such a game. But, alas, while there was a Warriors game that took place in some kind of alternate-timeline, there wasn't a prequel. Huh; what an opportunity it could've been...
I like how the re-use of old game ideas and assets actually fits within Nintendo's "Withered Technology" approach, but with software and IP instead
"Well... sometimes."
I felt that.
Someone needs to pitch these ideas to Nintendo. They would love them.
The Kirby series sort of already does this with it’s “Deluxe” versions of it’s sub-games sold as separate games. 🙂
this can't be happening! arlo can't love Kane more than me! I'm shaking and crying rn
Thank you for the bit at the end, Kane, that had me in tears!
That editing! So seamless. I couldn't even tell it was reused footage!
Bowser's Fury is my favorite 3D Mario now. idk if it's recently bias, maybe my opinion will change in a year, but I'm in love with it. I've beat it like 5 times already
I've beaten it like 20 times. (Speedruns)
Speaking of 3D Mario i just finished 100% odyssey for the 5th time.
I feel the same way honestly. Also I think the Cat-Shine collection jingle might be the most satisfying one in the whole Mario franchise, it's awesome.
I've only played 2 odyssey and bowser's fury so I am a bit biased but bowser's fury is my fav
What's so fun about it? I'm debating buying it or not
I played this and couldn’t help but imagine this concept on a Mario Odyssey scope!... 😱
THE FUTURE
I’m very excited for the new Arlo montage vids! Sounds great!
Wow, I didn’t realize how much I appreciate in-person Arlo videos until just now. This was hilarious and charming all the way through. Here’s to hoping the Arlo studio is up and running at full capacity soon! And of course, keep taking care of yourself and take breaks whenever you need to!
“And I don’t appreciate the attitude”
Lol Kane’s ending bit
What really sold this part of the game for me was that it had something most newer titles were lacking: The concept of a free-roam hub-world. The last Mario game that did it was, arguably small, SUper Mario Galaxy.
Bowser's Fury, being a single world, had the feeling of just that while also feeling like a proper level. Mario 64 and Sunshine got stuck with me because the hub-world made them feel connected and not only like a hub to get to a level. Finding blue coins even in Piazza Delfino or finding secret entrances in the castle's walls was just brilliant and gave you the illusion of actually being in the game and not reading a chapter like in a book. Bowser's Fury just gave the same feeling to me, because it showed a interconnected world that still had its separate areas aka. levels.
I'm a sucker for those hub-worlds that have more of a purpose than just being a hub. So while SMG was still fine with some one-ups and secrets to find, it was already closing down on the concept and just delivered because it was meaningful for the story. So here we got the potential to come back to those ideas and I'd love to see that.
Oh my gosh, the ending of this video is almost like it’s from a YTP
This comes out like 2 hours after ceave gaming released a video with a similar message hahaha
If they ever do something like this, I hope the smaller teams have a lot of fresh-out-of-school students. Not just for the new blood, but also because maybe they’re not experienced enough to work on a full game, but work on a smaller game where the groundwork is already laid out? It would be a great way to familiarize them with how Nintendo internally structures/codes their games
I will say that Bowser's Fury is very close to being my favorite 3D Mario experience. It has all of the best ideas from each game combined into one big adventure. Big open 3D levels from 64 and sunshine. Powerups for exploration from the 3D series. Not getting booted out of the level from odyssey. And all of the cat shines feel like you DID something. Bowser's Fury mechanic itself is so unique and interesting.
Amazing editing as always, Kane. Especially that last big; all things said by Arlo.
I've felt the same way for years about Ace Attorney.
Like, why hasn't Capcom been regularly adding cases to the Dual Destinies or Spirit of Justice engines?
And why have these games not been ported to switch yet? Capcom, please! My 3ds is literally broken and I just want to play Spirit of Justice so badly :(
@@juliankathmann9440 Isn't it on iOS and Android?
@@diegoarmando5489 I think it's only the first trilogy and Apollo :(
Just a straight up YTP towards the end.
Ok that editing gag at the end is definitely top 5 funniest Arlo moments (nicely done Kane)
That ending gag had me in stitches! Hilarious stuff!
Love that outro. Lol
Coming here fresh off Ceave Gaming's video... great minds think alike! :D
same
I love your flourishes to camera in this episode.
Man all of my favourite content creators are making content today. I can’t keep up. This is so good.
Unrelated but I feel like They should package Bower's Fury into a separate game with extra stuff
Mario 3D world + Bowser Fury is good but what if some want to play BF (bowser fury) and not SM3DW.
Maybe it could only be available on the eshop
And they could add extra things to it
I feel like it would be a good idea
Or port it to Wii U just cause its very similar to 3D world so it shouldn'y be that hard to port it (also cause i dont have a switch but I do have a Wii U)
So that means we get to save Marin from being trapped as a seagull forever ?
The Kane edit was really funny! Also Arlo made some good points in this video
Lol that ending edit, nice one Kane
"If something works for your business, do more of it!"
so you were the one who gave them the idea to make 5 new super mario games, huh?
That ending lol!
Arlo this is one of the best videos you've made in a while. Great insight.
I really like the ideas. I feel like Octo Expansion could have even been sold as one of those small titles. It’s its own standalone game, really.
I’d love the zelda series to be a little more experimental. A smaller game from the perspective of zelda, ganon, or even a side character like Kass would be awesome.
Bowser Jr: "The future is now old man!"
Not continuing projects like these, especially when time and money is less of an issue is nothing less than a misopportunity. It kind of goes back to what you said about Origami King, if it's not an issue of greed, it's the issue of strict design philosophy.
Love the idea! Reminds me of Kirby's Blowout Blast, a game they made out of a Robot mini game and sold separately. I would totally be down to pick up bite seized experiences like that based off my favorite franchises!
All worth it for Arlo's little edit at the end.
Can’t lie an Arlo ytp channel needs to happen now
Facts.
“If it’s good for your business, do more of it!”
Except loot boxes.
Do less of that, please.
I can't help but think of the subgames that Kirby Super Star (Ultra) was split into.
It's basically what this video describes: Smaller campaigns based upon the same game's assets. The difference being that they're packaged together, of course. But in today's day and age, one could sell them at a lower price seperately and eventually release a collection with all titles together.
Great video! keep up the great work!
Makes me wonder if we will only see 2D Mario games from here on out in the form of Mario Maker. 3D World feels like it takes the place of the 2D Mario slot.
I think the other example of something similar is Captain Toad. The game sort of split the difference between the mini-campaign of BF and the full scale experience of a main series entry. In the end this can allow more prototypes to get worked into full gaming experiences so I agree this is a valuable idea
yea Bowser JR needs to be in more Nintendo projects, he is so interesting
I still can't believe that there still aren't any Mario rpg games for the Nintendo switch.
Paper Mario
@@user-cp2ft2og6m not really an rpg...
@@user-cp2ft2og6m not really rpg
It's messed up how we went from 2 dedicated Mario RPG franchises... to none.
Does Mario + Rabbids count lol
Fury Bowser chasing Mario without rest as he got the last two Cat Shines and being so powerful the lighthouses could no longer repel him was legit scary.
I cant wait for you future of arlo videos
Nice video, arlo! I love your channel.
16:34
Is this the first Arlo YTP? And it's official, too, damn! xD
Also, modders having been doing this concept for years with Nintendo's older games, it's just a shame that only now Nintendo appears to be seeing the potential of it.
have they?
I love to see Arlo again! I hope dlc is implemented more too!
The lighting on Arlo looks stunning today!
So, the truth finally comes out. Your love has been a lie all this time! I'm so jealous of Kane now.
me who cant afforded any games: guess ill die
Kane deserves a medal for that editing at the end
Mr Editor, that was art. Thank you for your hard work! Buu laugh for at least 5 minutes after that
You should totally just do a video on the toxicity of 60 buck price tags.
"And i dont Appreciate the attitude"
Sassy Arlo on sight
Kane did such a great job on that old video remix. I’d like more please!
I loved that last bit. I do like your ideas. I wish we could have a short Golden Sun story or a Budget F-Zero game focused on multiplayer.
As someone who didn't like Odyssey, I think a Bowser's Fury style 3D Mario has the potential to satisfy people like me, and the vast majority who think Super Mario Odyssey is a masterpiece, all praise Arlo, etc.