Watch this before buying a Color ebook reader (e-reader)!
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- Kobo will probably soon release two new colour e-readers, a Kobo Clara Color and a Kobo Libra Color that will use Kaleido 3 colour e-ink displays. But colour ebook readers is not as good for normal text ebook readers. It makes the display brightness and sharpness a lot worse. The experience get very dull and blurry. Color ebook readers is only good for reading color comics, color mangas and do other stuff like browsing the web, social networks and reading the news. Not for reading books. Too Dull, Dark and Blurry displays for that.
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Thank you. You just killed my FOMO. Just what I wanted!
Ok 👍🏻
Same hahaha I appreciate this because now I don't need to buy it 🎉😂
@JVJF7 You are totally wrong Kaleido 3 is the latest. Kobo has not invented something new. So really bad comment
Thanks for this in depth discussion. I recently bought a kobo libra 2 and was worried I jumped the gun, missing a fancy new feature. Now I realize I have the perfect e reader for my personal needs.
Yes you definitely have. Color only makes the reading experience worse.
Lol yeah dude and now you can’t even buy Libra 2s hahah. So glad I grabbed it last month.
Thank you. Your advice has helped me .... and saved me money.
You’re welcome. You find more helpful videos on my channel.
Thank you very much for one-to-one comparison with lights out.
You’re welcome
Thank you for this informative video! I had no idea, and was excited about the new color announcement. I think the new Clara B&W will be the one I go for, if anything. Thank you again!
Yeah so so
you look bad asf lowk
I do a lot of activities that tire my eyes: Drawing, coloring, writing, cross-stitching, and of course, a lot of reading. I have been reading e-books as well as physical books for years. I started with Nook, continued with Kobo Aura, now I have Kobo Libra 2. I was excited to hear about color e-readers coming out, but from what you said, they're not good for the eyes. I don't want to tire my eyes any further. Thanks very much for the information 🙏🏻💐
Well it is still the same e-ink technology that is great for your eyes. The downside with color is basically that they have a darker display panel that is harder to see if you don’t raise the front light quite high. So if you want to use an e-reader for colored content or drawing then go for it. Don’t buy it if you only will use it for B&W content. Then your Libra 2 is one of the best on the market.
I have the old Kobo libra H2O for a few years now. It's still great but I was thinking of getting a new one. A kobo libra colour or the onyx boox palma. Your video made not want to get the kobo colour anymore since I use my e-reader purely for reading books. Do you suggest I get the boox palma? Or just stick with old kobo libra H20? 😊
Stick with the Libra H2O and maybe buy the Boox Palma as a companion reader when you need to go portable. The new kobo Clara B&W is also an alternative. Don’t buy color ereaders if you don’t mainly read color content.
thank you this helped me decide to stick with my device
Great. I’m glad I could help
Sir, thank you so much for your technical analysis on color e-readers, but I wonder if highlighting and adding small notes in different colors is much more pleasant and engaging when reading...Nevertheless, for the reading purpose only, a black and white e-reader is better, and in that regard I agree with your assessment.
Yeah if you take a lot of notes then I would recommend a color note taker.
Thanks! Could you give me an advise? I have a kobo glo hd (300 dpi) and I'm interested to buy a new kobo clara colour (300 dpi also in white and black and 150 in colour) But, seeing this video, i'm afraid that dispay is dark without brightness function (at the sun light for example), instead of my kobo that is still perfect. So, talking just for black and white, there is difference between those two models?
If you only read black and white ebooks then never buy a color ereader. If that’s the case buy the kobo Clara B&W instead. Then your user experience will get excellent with crisp and sharp text and bright as you want. Color e-readers is too dark and only good for Colored content.
@@svartling thank you so much for your explanation. Think that I will remain with my kobo. I thought that white and black still brighter the same and the darkness were just for colour contents. I like comics but I like ebook too 🥲and I was so attracted by new kobo
Thank you, this is so important to know!
You’re welcome
Which font is that on the Kobo? It looks similar to Amazon ember which is my fave on a kindle.
Atkinson Hyperlegible
Thanks for a great comparison. Personally my eyes are pretty backlight sensitive and I don't use ereader lighting in daylight, and always on the lowest setting at night, nor do I crave the "paperwhite" super white background which you don't get in real life paperbacks (only glossy mags etc). But not having colour highlighting or colour menus has always bugged my about my ereaders, don't ask me why ... when 90% is spent reading b&w text it seems crazy. Basically i am more likely to pick one of these colour ereaders up than my trusty old Boyue e reader which stays on the shelf. I will have a look at the Libra Colour in store when it lands just to check its not too dark. Thanks again.
You’re welcome
Nice video. Exactly the info im looking for right now. Had my kindle for years and years and are planning on getting a new ereader soon. Will wait so see what Kobo reveals on april 10th, maybe older models will drop in price also
It seems like they will release a new kobo Clara B&W too but no new Libra B&W what I can see. But the old Libra 2 is still awesome and worth buying.
Does any know...are the page buttons 9n the libra loud? Do they click or use "silent" buttons or perhaps membrane buttons? I read in bed before going to sleep and clicks wouldnt be an option
They are quite silent. Not totally silent though.
Just ordered a kindle 11th gen but then started to feel like I could have order Kobo Clara Colour because it has a colourful and the price difference isn’t bad.
I don’t really read comics much these days and if I do I can do it on my phone, so I don’t really need a Kobo Clara Colour and shouldn’t feel bad either for getting kindle BW. Isn’t it? 😀
Thanks for your video and explanation.
You definitely don’t need color if you don’t read color content.
@@svartling perfect. Thank you.
Perfect demonstration. Magazines and geaphic novels are a minority of my reading time so I am happy to view these on my samsung tablet. Same if I need to mark up sheet music. Very happy with my b&w e reader.
Yes exactly
I love comic books and manga. I do not have a lot of space on my house to buy them. If what is needed is to increase the background light, then is good for me. Thank you for reporting on this issue. It is nice to know before buying
Thanks a lot! I was supposing that. I only read ebooks in epub format, or movi, but i also have a lot of pdfs (user guides, books, etc.
I own an Inkpad 4, but is quite small for PDFs, i was looking to something in 9,7-10.3 area.
And now with your video, i-m sure i must wait more, because the new Eo or X Pro from Pocketbook aren't good enough for my needs.
Ok 👍🏻
I wish Kobo had updated the Libra 2 to a BW model. I do not need colour I need sharp text on a bright background. Thank you for this video.
Yeah me too
Same here. I knew new models were coming out but Color version is really not that attractive. I wish they can use Carta 1300 with better contrast
thank you so much for this informative video!
You’re welcome. You find more on my channel
This is good info to know! Thank you for this. I’m definitely going to stay away from the color ereaders.
Yes do so. Much worse for normal reading
Phew, I was looking at the Clara Colour, but I'm set on the BW one now. Thanks!
Yes a much better buy. Probably the best e-reader you can buy at the moment.
You just saved me a lot of money 😂
Good :)
I'm wondering if you will do an update if you get the new kobos
Color e-readers is no good if you read normal ebooks. So I won’t buy them. The display is too dark and fuzzy. Never buy color e-readers if you mainly use it for B&W content. See this video about color e-readers for more info. They use the exact same display Kaleido 3.
manga are mostly b&w, and comics need a wider screen than 7inch imo, so I really don't understand who is going to buy the new kobo libra and clara color
Good point
I like the colored covers of my books...as I've stopped buying physical books
So I think it's good for people like us
@@Kevinsaltburn but the actual reading is worse, that's the problem. If the reading experience was the same then I understand wanting color for the covers, but I don't think the trade-off is worth it
@kaamil7725 it’s not worth the worse reading experience with a darker display and also not as sharp only to get color covers.
@jesustenes2 exactly
Very helpful! Thank you!
I’m glad you liked it
Thank you for the review. I was looking at the new Kobo colours offering. Every one, at least on the early videos, can notice that the colours are doll and washed out. Worse, if that affect the general text reading function which what it was designed for in the first place, it is not worth. I expect a lot of returns after the "wow" factor is passed. IMO, the technology is not yet ready for prime time.
Exactly. Kaleido 3 is simply not better than this. So I actually don’t like kobos marketing of this. If you read normal text ebooks then don’t buy color e-readers. It’s that simple.
i actually noticed this in kobo's teaser ads. They had their brightness quite high.
Yeah you often need to have 80% brightness
@@svartlingmy god 80% is way too much . I use 15% on Libra 2 . 80% is painful
@arm8636 not painful on a color e-reader :) because it’s still quite dark ;)
@@svartling wrong thread blud
No it was not wrong thread. I banned the user that was spamming. Sorry for that
I was waiting for color e readers since ages. They are not quite there yet, but I will buy one anyway. I think I like to support the development of better devices.
Ok 👍🏻
you make a good point that a lot of other reviewers seem hesitant to state. i'll just stick with b&w
Yes do so then you get the best display and the best experience when reading books
so ive noticed the white balance on kaleido is also shifted to a greenish tint. the white is never white
Yes exactly. It’s grayish green. That makes it darker. You will always have to compensate with front light
you r right 😢. I got the Kobo clara color, but I use Kindle paper white 2018 to read B/W comics better than Kobo color...
Yep. Kaleido 3 is not good enough. Stick with B&W readers until the technology is better
Ya I get it is less bright, but doesn't seem to be low enough to be a dealbreaker, given the upside is the flexibility to read coloured comics.
Yeah as I said I meant this only for B&W content. Colored content of course.
I only read books on my clara2e so I guess I don't need the fancy clara colour. 😅
Definitely not. Clara 2E is one of the best e-readers on the market
@alisacourtney602 it’s cheaper because it’s not color. Again, if you only read black and white ebooks then you don’t need color. Color will only make the experience worse
thanks, saved me from a wrong desicion
Great. I’m glad to hear that
Thank you.
Youre welcome
Honestly, the only point to a color screen for me would be the covers of the books on my library.
I've never seen color words in any books I've read.
I'll stick with my black an white. I too like 300 dpi.
I have the tablet if I want to see color book covers
Yes exactly and a darker screen is not worth having color covers
Both display look great in my opinion.
Yes they do but one is much darker
It is important to consider the Kobo has the next generation color panel compared to the one featured in this video.
@adaml.5355 No they don’t Kaleido 3 is the latest there is. There is no better color display than that.
@@svartling You're right my mistake.
Color ereaders need the backlight a little bit to compensate the color layers and they work great. Are they as good as the black and white ones? No. But they are almost as good, they have great battery life and the color makes a big difference. I would charge anytime my boox ultra with a color one if I had the money to do it.
Not just a bit though. Around 80% to be almost good. Outside in direct sunlight it’s even worse.
I just want a kobo product but these new color is just not it for me right now
Buy the new kobo Clara B&W then. You won’t regret it.
Yeah I need the contrast of a B&W ereader. So it’s a pass for me. If that Carta 1300 b&w is truly one of the new ones I’ll get that for sure.
Yeah much better
Couldn’t agree more. For ebooks, contrast is the NO 1 consideration. So disappointed
I want to use an ereader to read and study university essays. I want to highlight and make notes. I have been gifted Kobo Clara 2E but I’ve still not opened it. I’d like to know which models have the features for my needs. Does the Libra color fits on me? Or should I change to another model?
I also want to know if I can highlight to pdf format
If highlighting in different color is more important than a crisp and clear display then go for the Libra color. Clara 2E or Clara color doesn’t support that. I don’t know if you can do that on pdfs though. Sorry.
If I wanted a color ebook reader that had access to DC Universe (Android app) comic books, which would you recommend? It seems Kobo doesn't even really sell comics so that seems kind of silly lol
An onyx Boox. They run android and has Google play store. They have from 6-inch and up so just pick and choose size and color. Bigme too as I show in this video.
Want to read comics and ebooks so colour ereader makes sense.
Yes definitely
Just wanted to echo everyone else's thanks, saved me $200, keeping my e-readers bw
Great please like video as a thank you
@@svartling done! 😄 thanks again! Love the channel, new subscriber
@matthewmcneill5320 great 👍🏻
First of all, you said the PPI of Kaleido 3 is 150, and for black and white readers it's 300. That is not entirely correct. PPI of Kaleido 3 is 150, AND underneath it is also 300 PPI layer screen for black and white. The reason why it's not reaching the same brightness levels with a normal bw reader is the reason you've already explained, the screen is two layered. Secondly, your Bigme Max Color is not even Kaleido 3, it's Kaleido Plus which is 117PPI for its color and 227 for BW which partly explains its underwhelming brightness level. The fair comparison for the upcoming Kobo color readers is the Pocketbook Inkpad Color 3 which is using the same Kaleido 3 technology, and I would say Inkpad Color 3 is pretty impressive ebook reader for its versatility and readability. I would also argue that if the Libra 2 is already bright enough without using frontlight, then what do you even need the frontlight for? Kaleido 3 with 30% frontlight brightness is enough for me to enjoy reading comparable to bw. I own Kobo Touch which doesn't even have frontlight, and the only time I can't read it is at night when the lights are off. In Kobo color I can still read in pitch dark because there is a front light! The only clear downside is if you're going to read indoors with poor lighting, which means you're going to keep the frontlight on mostly, in other words it consumes more battery. However since Kobo Libra color's battery is bigger than the Kobo bw, I would assume the battery performance would be more or less the same. And you've not even talked yet about the improved speed performance of Kaleido 3 over Carta 1200, it is faster and more responsive. I would only consider a bw if they released a Carta 1300 in the form factor of the Libra, but they only have it available in the size of a Clara. It's basically the same with only improved speed performance and better contrast, but reading pdfs and magazines would not be a good experience. The real improvement here is ultimately the color, Kaleido 3 is the best eink technology out of the market and paired that with Kobo which I personally think has the best software interface, with a price of about 260 CAD is a great deal. How much is Inkpad color 3? About 460 CAD. 💯
It's a bigme 751c with kaleido 3 display and color is not worth it if you only read b&w ebooks. It's that simple.
@@svartling Not my fault. You were calling it max in your video
No I didn’t. Maybe you heard it like that. I have never had such a device and didn’t even know it existed. Sorry if you heard it wrong
I like my background darker 🤷🏼♀️
Ok but then just turn down the front light on a B&W e-reader instead and save a lot of battery life.
I think I’ll keep my b&w
Yes much better
I will buy the Kobo Libra 2 colour ... It's novel and bw is 300 ppi ...
Yeah 300ppi below a color layer of 150ppi that makes it a lot darker and dull to look at. You will have to compensate with around 80% front light to see anything. But if you read colored content then that will be a great device. If not then go for non-color.
@@svartling thank you sir ... If possible could you please do a side by side comparison of Libra 2 and Libra 2 color ... May not be your cup of tea but would love to see it ...
I don’t own one but all kaleido 3 displays works the same so it is as dark as I show in this video on the bigme 751c
I will wait buying a colors e-reader until the tech become better
Yes that is the right thing to do
The only gripe I really have with the video is the pretty conclusive thumbnail. “Don’t buy color e-readers” really doesn’t look good. We bought one for a few reasons, of which one would be to put D&D books on it (and colour is really rather nice to have in such cases).
Yeah if you mainly use it for colored content then go for it
Truth
Yep
Problem is there is no new BW version of Libra 2. So the new Libra is still the only option for that ergonomic format. And bigger battery.
Ergonomic is an opinion though. Personally I think readers without physical buttons are more ergonomic. But you are right that there is no need Libra B&W yet and that is because carta 1300 is too expensive for 7-inch at the moment.
@@svartling I think that the Libra 2 has amazing ergonomics, and feels great in hand. So pretty much hoping that next weeks, prove that the dimmer display is not that much of an issue. Have you gotten to see the device itself yet? Is the dimmer display issue as bad on the new Libra?
@MrJustCallMeJames all kaleido 3 devices are very dim, dark and bad contrast. The technology is simply not better.
An ebook reader doesn't make sense for looking at mangas or BD with its poor colouring and performance. You are better of getting a cheap Android tablet with millions of colours and its huge versatility. There are also great apps for reading books too. The new e-readers are trying to become something that is not needed for its basic purpose.
It is a “it depends”:
- type A: you mostly read mangas/BD/magazines and surf the web. You’re better off using an lcd tablet
- type B: you only read books. You’re better off with a black and white ereader.
- type C: you read everything. You’re better off with a color ereader.
Reading books with an LCD or OLED display is very hard on the eyes and I totally advise against. I also advise buying an 7,8” or bigger screen, smaller is way too small.
That is not to say that the tech behind these color ereaders has to improve massively in contrast and color richness. Nevertheless I use my black and white Boox Ultra screen even with CZcams and it is usable!!! That didn’t happen some years ago. I imagine that in 4/5 years this tech will be useful for most people. The price is though too high
@@ricarmig Agree A, B but C not so much. Modern LCD tablets all have "eyes protection" setting (blue light reduction) and auto-brightness control. A myriad of reading apps where you can change the text background colour or texture that you can't do on e-reader. LCD tablets are way quicker too. Frankly, colour content materials looks so primitive on the new e-readers. If I had the choice to bring only one tablet on a trip, my Android tablet (9 inches) with its versatility will be the one.
That said, IMO, I'll give it a few months before we see a new e-book colour technology as buyers will not be satisfied with the present version. I read some people have already return the new colour Kobos.
@@armagedon515 modern screens have “blue light reduction” which is really nothing but changing the colors a bit. You should wear glasses with that protection and emissive screens (lcd and OLED) are always harder for the eye than eink. Also the refresh rate may be an issue for some sensitive people.
@@ricarmig What are you talking about. This is about tablets not computer monitors right ? The blue light, which is the most damaging, is drastically reduce as the screen become almost yellow on my Lenovo M9, funny much like the yellow "comfort" light on my Kobo. Like I/you said, BW books are better read on e-reader.
@@armagedon515 I know what I’m talking about and the color of the image is only a small part of the blue light emission. The technology behind it is also important. You are confusing “night mode” (warmer colors to not disturb as much the sleep hours) with blue light emission (which is slightly reduced with warmer colors)
The content is OK, but you repeat yourself a lot, you could have said this is in maybe a third of the time of this video.
You could have also showed some example of the cover pages in colour, and of some manga in b&w versus colour.
The worst review. Why didint you check visual novels?
It’s not a review. It’s about if you only read normal black and white ebooks, then don’t buy color ebook readers. Simple. Maybe you didn’t understand that? The review of the bigme you find on my channel.