Let’s talk Why I’m Against Undersized Enclosures..

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Komentáře • 106

  • @JAM-ur8tj
    @JAM-ur8tj Před 2 lety +14

    I respect that you won't build a box that will not let the subwoofer perform it's best. I've also seen boxes too big and sounded terrible.

    • @M.B.Enclosures
      @M.B.Enclosures  Před 2 lety +6

      Same thing applies and I say that in the video

    • @kdsboosted4954
      @kdsboosted4954 Před 2 lety +1

      @@M.B.Enclosures yes for sure. I've got 4 fosgate 15's in a 54 cadillac that I built a box to take up the whole trunk "huge" it does aight. It could be a lot better I'll be swapping it out. I'm thinking about a 4th order to cut down some of the rattling.

    • @Mr.NpK143
      @Mr.NpK143 Před 2 lety

      @KD's boosted now what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? 😕

    • @kdsboosted4954
      @kdsboosted4954 Před 2 lety

      @@Mr.NpK143 China had to dip into the extra wood supply for this box so it ripple affected their whole economy. That goes for the tea lol

    • @bailey2517
      @bailey2517 Před 2 lety

      @@M.B.Enclosures Hey MBE, how much larger than the manufacturer recommendation do you recommend a box to be built? Like, if Skar says its vxf 15 needs 3.25 cubes, would you reccomend 3.5, or 3.75, etc...? And how big of a role does tuning play in box volume? I want to tune my vxf to 28hz so should a lower tuned box be built with slightly more volume than if it was tuned to, say, 33hz?

  • @theejoeylee
    @theejoeylee Před 2 lety +11

    Not for everyone, but if you want a box that's a small or smaller than a sealed enclosure, that still gets low, then you need a passive radiator. Possibly 2. That's why companies like JBL uses PRs in their Bluetooth speakers. They need their product to be small as possible, and play low enough to sell like hot cakes.

    • @charliefrancis6438
      @charliefrancis6438 Před 2 lety

      Yes good point , but you would probably need 4-15 inch passive radiator’s to reach the x-max of those subs

    • @theejoeylee
      @theejoeylee Před 2 lety

      @@charliefrancis6438 Depends on the passive radiator.
      Model it in Win ISD or Bassbox pro and find out.

    • @bailey2517
      @bailey2517 Před 2 lety

      I'm tryna figure out how to use a PR but its so confusing. I'm good with ports but PRs are new to me.

  • @morgande
    @morgande Před 2 lety +11

    I was always under the impression that you could undersize a box in a sealed enclosure application, but not ported. Very interesting about the size of the box relationship to the air around the voice coil and it’s effect on cooling. I hadn’t thought about that.

    • @dannyharvey9334
      @dannyharvey9334 Před 2 lety +3

      If you go small on the sealed box your moving your optimum sweet hz range drastically to the upper hz. For ex. a sub needs 1.5 cu ft sealed and it’ll give great output from 35hz -80hz well same sub in 1cu ft will shift that great output to 60hz-150hz. And if you go bigger on the sealed it’s the opposite the optimum hz range will go to the lower hz. Every sub is different and the numbers above is just for example and explanation. No 2 brands of subs will use the same size enclosure because once in the vehicle the optimum hz range will change also.

    • @bradmeek
      @bradmeek Před 2 lety +1

      Best way to explain a normal mounted sealed enclosure is a toaster in a sealed box, the air might be moving but its trapped

    • @djkeys415s
      @djkeys415s Před 2 lety

      YEP..A SUB JUST DONT PERFORM IN A GROSSLY LARG ARE TOO SMALL BOX point and case...I bought 4 audiopipe bdc415 D2 But I never got the 16.cf custom box that was called for but I had two prefab boxes that was 2.5 cubs per sub so that's like 12 cu.f about 5cuf short of16 that didn't perform they best and they failed early

    • @lolllllll
      @lolllllll Před 2 lety +1

      That's the cool thing about subwoofers, the air that use to produce sound is also the same air they use to cool themselves

    • @bkh5746
      @bkh5746 Před rokem

      I disagree ya dont need a huge enclosure.i like a smaller box.its better bass.maybe not on a cheap woofer but a big motored woofer,it will perform.

  • @drudown3098
    @drudown3098 Před 2 lety +2

    Ain’t nobody go say mb boxes ain’t good mbe is the man. Knowledgeable and always keeping it real

  • @willsteele9249
    @willsteele9249 Před 2 lety

    Your logic is superior when it comes to box building ,luv you big bruh!

  • @timothykees6187
    @timothykees6187 Před 2 lety +2

    I appreciate the knowledge you are sharing. You 💯 Bro. Keep it up.👍🏽

  • @dwaynecheatom6859
    @dwaynecheatom6859 Před 2 lety

    The cough at the end took me tf out bru🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀 love this channel

  • @countryboisavage
    @countryboisavage Před 2 lety +2

    I like these new back to back uploads I also luv the fact that alot of your point of views are the same as mine you be telling people the same stuff I been telling people for years keep up the good work for real 👍💯

  • @andrewmcfarlane2765
    @andrewmcfarlane2765 Před 2 lety +1

    Great content everytime 👌. Nuff respect # straight from Jamaica

  • @tkc_datopkat901
    @tkc_datopkat901 Před 2 lety

    Hey man you have a solid point what you just said i been a seal man ever since never had a ported box i couldn't understand the tuning concept just being in car audio at time. I have experience a lot of stuff including errors too dealing with car audio, but I learn from my mistake tho without doing the right researching, the specs, and building boxes. When I got the right knowledge, everything starting to make sense after that from installing to building boxes. Correct knowledge will have your car sounding good frfr

  • @kadyllakkyng
    @kadyllakkyng Před 2 lety +1

    Love the knowledge you dropping on us MBE it's has motivated me to build my first box for a 04 Chevy Hell Raiser Trailblazer so the question I have is how to actually calculate port area and length

    • @GTILOUD
      @GTILOUD Před 8 měsíci

      12 volt port calculator

  • @justinwinston9929
    @justinwinston9929 Před 2 lety

    Good info. Some of the bad info comes from the shops selling the product. It starts with somebody telling you that will fit. I’ve seen a single sub in a correct box outperform two of the same subs in a wrong box.

  • @theplatinumcaraudio
    @theplatinumcaraudio Před 2 lety +5

    A neighbor of mine bought 2 L7 15's in a qbomb vented enclosure for his 2019 challenger. I measured it out and I think it is like 3 cu ft total or something like that. I told him before he bought it that that enclosure isn't even big enough for 1 of them. A while back he asked me about doing the install but hasn't been by yet. I told him it's probably gonna sound like crap.

  • @Ross19kilo
    @Ross19kilo Před 25 dny

    Hey love the videos. I have 2 Skar evl10s pushed by 2 Skar rp2000.1 amps. I bought the prefab armored box and I think it’s undersized. I appreciate the info you put out. I’m gonna attempt a build myself.

  • @joserobinson8419
    @joserobinson8419 Před 2 lety

    Knowledge is appreciated

  • @benjaminbailey7429
    @benjaminbailey7429 Před 2 lety

    MB is a straight fool. Love the vibes

  • @Lukas-gx9wk
    @Lukas-gx9wk Před 2 lety

    Wassup MBE. Good content 💯

  • @madrussian4252
    @madrussian4252 Před 2 lety

    I like MB because he is honest. He made me an enclosure for Sundown ZV6 10". Beautiful work, the cut out was wrong about 1/8" though. We talked and he made it right. In this game mistake will happend but how the person takes responsibility for that mistake is what separates real business owners from scammers that just take your money and run. when you get a box from MB you also get a guarantee that if anything goes wrong, he will take care of it. He really is just like you see him on youtube, real, honest guy

  • @plainwayne7777
    @plainwayne7777 Před 2 lety

    I have one skar 18 in a 6 cubic foot box I'd never have a too small of a box it just sounds way more clean

  • @optimusprimer4392
    @optimusprimer4392 Před rokem

    I have a standard cab truck I built a slim vented box for behind the seat with two 8-in Rockford p2s I have about 1.1 ft inside without the port included they require .65 each vented and the port that runs almost the length of the box is 2 in x 5 in by 24 in Long completely flared it's a really nice strong build now you make me nervous it may be too small but when I do a frequency sweep it is so loud and low between 28 HZ and 80hz..... I built the Box myself and I was always a little nervous about it being too small but the thing is it's slams and plays hard but it doesn't play the highs very well it does roll off after 120 hertz but gets jiggy with the lows

  • @paulharris574
    @paulharris574 Před 2 lety

    So true bro nice video bro

  • @justindaniel5959
    @justindaniel5959 Před rokem

    Enclosure size is important. I had a 12 Rockford P1 150w rms the 1st gen. Built in a large enclosure with a big port. People could not believe the performance from one 12. Regards from South Africa

  • @djkeys415s
    @djkeys415s Před 2 lety

    SEE AGAIN THIS IS WY I WACH...YOU TELLING THE TRUTH BECOUSE I got 4x15 in a Yukon HE DINDT HAVE ENUF ROOM. Keep TEACHING MBE KEEP TEACHING

  • @tonyb022377
    @tonyb022377 Před 2 lety +1

    We gonna hafta get you on that ANDROID joint. 😇🥰

  • @anthonybrown6143
    @anthonybrown6143 Před 2 lety

    I noticed talking to some of the guys on FaceBook who think the same way. I tell them this, "you have to do your full research on your car first of what will fit and what won't. Adding any large subwoofers to your car, you must do your calculations to find out your gross cubic feet BEFORE buying any subwoofers! some listen and some don't.

  • @jordanrutherford1766
    @jordanrutherford1766 Před 2 lety +2

    Passive radiators are actually pretty cool in how they can produce sound without being directly powered. Recently acquired my dads JBL L150A tower speakers with one 12 mid and one 12 passive radiator. Im still tryna understand the physics how it produces lower bass notes

    • @abelscaliber7969
      @abelscaliber7969 Před 2 lety

      So the passive radiator has small weights on the back instead of a magnet, and this weight of the radiator determines the resonance frequency just like port length port area and net volume determine the resonance of a ported enclosure. So if you have a fs of 34hz on the radiator, when your subwoofer is producing frequencies around that it will boost those frequencies

  • @kountryboysounds1657
    @kountryboysounds1657 Před 6 měsíci

    Just seen this video. I have a 2012 chevy traverse and with my 3rd row down, yes it's 48 across but it's like 36+ deep and 20 high. Not sure if that guy measured from 2nd row to lift gate but I measured mine from 3rd row folded down to the bump out before the tool compartment just before the lift gate.

  • @devynrobinson1498
    @devynrobinson1498 Před 2 lety +1

    Very rarely are the loudest people built with manufacture recommendations. I got 4 15s in 11 cubes and am 160s from 28-55hz. Yes I have a lot of power but I demo just fine.

    • @bkh5746
      @bkh5746 Před rokem

      I built a box 4 a american bass xmaxx 15 in 3.5 cubic ft.that son of gun sounded good man.
      I called several people before i built the box and they told me its not critical with a large motored subwoofer,bc the motor force.and we also had the aero port talk that a 6” aeroport is a tiny azz port.
      So im not a critic on box size now bc a smaller box will perform too.i wouldnt go a cube or cube in half smaller,nor would i go a cube or 2 bigger like some people do(which keeps the coil out of the gap when you hammer down on it(hence stinky subs)be conservative above and below recommended.🤷🏻‍♂️its not rocket science just making noise.

  • @greenbassboosts8872
    @greenbassboosts8872 Před rokem

    I won't build an undersized box any more but I did in the past. I just want to put out designs others can build now, I got a day job ya know

  • @SS-sw8de
    @SS-sw8de Před 2 lety

    Salute!!

  • @williesims9766
    @williesims9766 Před 2 lety +1

    Quick question. I have a 2016 Chevy Malibu and want to run a set ( or single) of the kicker Q class L7’s but don’t know what would be optimal for my vehicle? I planned on getting a box built by you as well to go along with the subs. What would you recommend?

  • @djkeys415s
    @djkeys415s Před 2 lety

    Just had tak some one to school about there fave woofer and about power and performenc and how I clipped my audiopipe subs AND THAT I ABUSED THEM and they failed sent them to the Chanelle to learn

  • @jayallison3538
    @jayallison3538 Před 2 lety

    Man your so funny

  • @marcuskoolrt
    @marcuskoolrt Před 2 lety

    What example of setup would you recommend for my Dodge Charger trunk? I got one 15” vxf in a enclosure tuned to 32hz. The sub is facing up and the ported area on the side. But idk if I should get another setup and sell this one. The bass moves things around but it’s not thumpy enough to hit my chest ect… it’s just lows and rattling lol. I’m over it.

  • @definitelynotak4228
    @definitelynotak4228 Před 2 lety +1

    i have 2 12" alpine type r in 3.6cu ft, tuned 35hz on an RF T1000bdcp but didnt give myself enough port area (im using a single 4" aero port with flanged ends), its my first box build.
    Im trying to decide if I should double up on the ports (obviously with more length since more area) and see how it sounds or switch to 2 10"s and design for that since my box volume is on the lower side for 12s. if 2x 4" aero still has port noise i dont know if theres a way id be able to fit more port area without removing too much box volume.

  • @tony187soundproof5
    @tony187soundproof5 Před rokem

    I have a pair of x15.v.3 in a 8.3 cf tuned to 33hz

  • @basscaddy1449
    @basscaddy1449 Před 2 lety +1

    What if you build a platform where back seat was to mount the box too wouldn't there be enough room for 8.5 cubes for 2 x15s

  • @lolllllll
    @lolllllll Před 2 lety

    Well here's something we can actually agree on, honestly I bout spit my damn drink out when you said what vehicle the 2 x15s were in. That dude is fucking insane, but I feel bad someone actually told him you could fit those in that small ass vehicle.

  • @rchobby2828
    @rchobby2828 Před 2 lety

    He put me up
    On that. Others guy will make a box that fits there wallet. 4 15s in a Kia mini.😭
    I went a mbe this time. With one of the best amps 🔥

  • @BramtheMan1
    @BramtheMan1 Před rokem +1

    I'm looking for a box for 2 15in L7s blue stitched Kickers, and like you always say , most boxes have 3.0 cb ft, but they don't take account for the port or sub displacement, Is there a box or company or website you recommend ? It's going in the back of an Armada, so I have space for a proper box

  • @DTW-bx2vy
    @DTW-bx2vy Před 2 lety

    Do you usually build an enclosure larger than the Vas TS Parameter value for any given subwoofer?

  • @eddiecrawford659
    @eddiecrawford659 Před rokem

    Do you think 4.8 net cubes is too big for one sundown x 15 I really would like you to answer this for me.

  • @kurtulustourism
    @kurtulustourism Před 2 lety

    mb how about put that 15 in a enclosure that is not correct and show it on a meter some how some way its performance and than put it in a correct enclosure and compare and show it to use ??

  • @wrobinson6828
    @wrobinson6828 Před rokem

    Who do you recommend here in Charlotte NC

  • @tezd2200
    @tezd2200 Před 2 lety

    💯

  • @JayBeezy31
    @JayBeezy31 Před 2 měsíci

    A 2009 Chevy what ? I love MB but sometimes I can’t understand what my partner is saying…. I’m assuming it’s an suv ? Okay leggooo !!

  • @ceavalencia4767
    @ceavalencia4767 Před 2 lety

    Anyone opinions on the Skar prefab (3) 10s ported enclosure ? I shoved blackbrick subs in that thing.. I need true advice

  • @djjones6392
    @djjones6392 Před 2 lety

    Can you build me a box or give me specs? 12 10s shallow mount 74 caprice flat on floor

  • @andrewwine10
    @andrewwine10 Před 2 lety

    I would like to know ur thoughts on aero ports

  • @houstontaylor9799
    @houstontaylor9799 Před 2 lety +2

    Got a question im looking at the kicker l7 q class. I have enough space for around 2.5 cubic feet would you suggest the 10 or 12 ? box would be ported

    • @abelscaliber7969
      @abelscaliber7969 Před 2 lety

      You need to work backwards. 2.5cu ft of total area for box? Is this an SUV car truck?

    • @M.B.Enclosures
      @M.B.Enclosures  Před 2 lety

      Depends on what the net will be not gross

  • @Mr.NpK143
    @Mr.NpK143 Před 2 lety +1

    Some of these bastards bashing Rockville 😆 🤣, but the key is if you're not sure lean towards the smaller reccomended measurements of the enclosure. Never have I read lean beyond the smaller measurements. But I think the problem is a lot of installers can't or don't apply proper measurements for the enclosure

  • @SaltwaterBoogeyman
    @SaltwaterBoogeyman Před 2 lety

    😆🤣😂 gotta laugh at the hate

  • @tudor_sebastian
    @tudor_sebastian Před 2 lety

    You have potential, try learning about thumbnails and watch your channel go up!

  • @deionlamb8828
    @deionlamb8828 Před rokem

    Will a 2.5 cuft box be fine for a 12 zvx?

  • @patrickg8337
    @patrickg8337 Před 2 lety

    What about oversized boxes? How much bigger then the recommended size can you go? And what are the pros and cons

    • @M.B.Enclosures
      @M.B.Enclosures  Před 2 lety +3

      The video mentions that. And every subwoofer is different, what may be oversized for one size subwoofer , may not be to another similar sized subwoofer.

    • @patrickg8337
      @patrickg8337 Před 2 lety

      My bad for missing that thanks,I'll rewatch the video! i must of gotten distracted or something.

    • @patrickg8337
      @patrickg8337 Před 2 lety

      I've got some hertz ml 2500.3 with a recommended. 88 sealed box for each, they say the box fs would be around 42hz, of course all of them in my vehicle will affect the fs but i would like to see i can't put them in a bigger sealed box in hopes of being able to play lower?

  • @1012taz
    @1012taz Před 2 lety

    Soo what would be the right size box before displacement. That way people would understand exactly what they are getting into,if you are buying 2 15's Sundown X. Also what is the optimal net cube after displacement.

    • @M.B.Enclosures
      @M.B.Enclosures  Před 2 lety +2

      Sundown recommends 4.25 sir.

    • @1012taz
      @1012taz Před 2 lety

      Cool thats wasup, but what does the box need to at least gross. For those subs to play optimal

    • @dannyharvey9334
      @dannyharvey9334 Před 2 lety +1

      @@1012taz my speculation would be 11 cu ft area subs take 4.25 ea x 2 + .25 cu ft displacement per sub x2 + 2 cu ft port displacement = 11cu ft will put you in the ball park no smaller though.

    • @M.B.Enclosures
      @M.B.Enclosures  Před 2 lety

      @@dannyharvey9334 I love it 😄…. My man you think just like I do. I know I’m not the only one who can work out the math. I may be the voice, but allot of people know the truth

    • @dannyharvey9334
      @dannyharvey9334 Před 2 lety +1

      @@M.B.Enclosures I build a lot of enclosures down my way and first thing I tell them is I only build to specs if it can’t build to specs catch me on the next box. I also tell EVERYBODY…. there’s a fine line between I can make it fit and actually sounding like it should, just cause the speaker play music doesn’t mean it’s playing properly and to it’s full potential. I tired to pass info on to who I build for it does no good for me to take what I learned and know to the grave. Lastly I tell EVERYBODY all subs are rated different some get there rms rating free air, some in a box but what kind of box, some rate the subs at a specific rms. I don’t know how to read T/S like you but I can eye ball a sub and tell if the rms is short burst or really continuous. Keep pushin what you do and I’m a keep following!!!!!!!!

  • @anthonyfox5405
    @anthonyfox5405 Před 2 lety

    My name is mr fox I have a 2013 sierra z71 what 8s would you recommend in my truck up under the rear seat

  • @doublemanson
    @doublemanson Před 2 lety

    so you dont do undersized and you dont do over size?

  • @Contact_Info
    @Contact_Info Před rokem

    He won't put his name on something that doesn't perform good 👍👍

  • @cent6711
    @cent6711 Před 2 lety

    @robotUnderground says he got a learning disability

  • @econley001
    @econley001 Před 2 lety

    You was wrong for turning that box down. They had plenty of rpom for the required speecs!!! Just saying Myron

    • @Finejunk1
      @Finejunk1 Před 2 lety +1

      The port will take up roughly 3 cubes. He would need a gross of 12 cubes. Just ballpark numbers but it’s in this area.

    • @econley001
      @econley001 Před 2 lety

      With the dimensions you stated 40x24x20 you have a net of 11+ cuft. X series only need 4 cubes. W 3cube port & displacement of wood & subs it may not be optimal but still plenty to sound amazing with room to grow if they dont decide to get more subs. After 2 subs in a slightly restricted box....they gonna want to upgrade and expand most likely to more or larger subs which they would be willing to find more area or get a larger vehicle to accomodate this upgrade. They will be impressed sooo much with what you have already provided and will be crawling back for you to do the next larger enclosure as well...guaranteed! They will not miss that extra cube of free air. I know this from my personal experiences with sundown products my guy.

    • @Finejunk1
      @Finejunk1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@econley001 the material will bring it down to 9.27409 cubes.

    • @econley001
      @econley001 Před 2 lety

      @@Finejunk1 so basically your consumers should 1st relate to you the area they have for your enclosure and just allow you to decide on what sub(s) they should purchase....that makes alot more sense if they want an MBEnclosure 👍

    • @econley001
      @econley001 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Finejunk1 Thank you for taking your time to explain this. I appreciate all you do!!!