SCREAM 3 (2000) - WTF Happened to this Unmade Horror Movie?

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  • čas přidán 9. 01. 2022
  • With the new "Scream" film coming out in January, we thought it was well past time to dive into one of the alternative versions of "Scream 3." So come join us as we look at what Kevin Williamson wanted the sequel to be, the studio's no blood mandate, and the casting of...Kate Hudson? All this and more!
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  • @austinbutterfield5276
    @austinbutterfield5276 Před 2 lety +343

    I never really questioned why Sydney was living in the woods secluded. She survived 2 attempted killings. It’s not crazy to think a ptsd person like that would go live off in the woods alone

    • @kstark321
      @kstark321 Před 2 lety +33

      yeah, like why wouldn't she be hiding in the woods lmao.

    • @BuckarooBanzai84
      @BuckarooBanzai84 Před 2 lety +5

      Except that would obviously make her more vulnerable.

    • @SickSickPhil
      @SickSickPhil Před 2 lety +8

      not only that but thinking that stu was alive and nobody knew it from the original outline was a good idea is silly

    • @kaylachristina9249
      @kaylachristina9249 Před rokem +8

      I figured she went to a different state and moved country side. No neighbors no way to be seen. But if someone followed her dad unnoticed thatd be a problem for her. But yeah with her trauma it make s perfect sense. Some people too dont like all the noise and busyness of cities.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před rokem +4

      @@BuckarooBanzai84 also made her hard to find

  • @mattjindrak
    @mattjindrak Před 2 lety +277

    The worst part about 3 was Courtney Cox's hair.

  • @FinalSeraphLeo
    @FinalSeraphLeo Před 2 lety +401

    Ok just need to say: even without the alternative opening scene with Sidney, her being in the woods isolated still makes sense.

    • @enoch9468
      @enoch9468 Před 2 lety +50

      Based. I didn't need an explanation for this after all the shit that happened to her lol

    • @tellemstevedave5559
      @tellemstevedave5559 Před 2 lety +22

      Total sense. I don't get why he thinks Sidney doesn't feel like Sidney because her development is very logical.

    • @generalbanana1885
      @generalbanana1885 Před 2 lety +19

      In Scream 2 I can imagine she wouldn't think being out in the open was a bad idea. She was chased around by a serial killer a year or two ago, oh well, continue on with your life. Then Scream 2 happens and she has the mother of the man she killed, and a man obsessed with imitating the man that tried to kill her, both trying to kill her......Yeah, we didn't need a long drawn out opening sequence showing us why Sidney's living in the woods. When you have people trying to copy the people who tried to kill you to finish what they started, you'd fucking hide for the rest of your life.
      The sequels flat out show that there are people who dream about chasing down and killing Sidney to do what the others couldn't, like Sidney said in Scream 5 "I'm Sidney fucking Prescott, of course I own a gun."

    • @allworksnew
      @allworksnew Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@generalbanana1885and this blo guy didnt like the idea of sidney getting buff even though that makes perfect sense.

  • @LetsGetitBoah
    @LetsGetitBoah Před 2 lety +89

    So Sydney getting attacked by two different groups of killers, wouldn’t have provided her motivation to just go somewhere where people didn’t know her? Is that what we’re going with here?

  • @user-mb9nm7bq5e
    @user-mb9nm7bq5e Před 2 lety +115

    I loooove scream 3. It’s so campy! And I like how it tied to the first 2 films. Plus, I think treequals usually add an ethereal element to non magical films, which is a rule randy missed. Also Parker Posey lmao ‘YOure obsessed with HER! And you’re obsessed with her DAUGHTER!”

    • @kharma7755
      @kharma7755 Před 2 lety +14

      not to mention, that Carrie Fisher cameo was fantastic!

    • @atmosphericentry0
      @atmosphericentry0 Před 2 lety +15

      Agreed!! Parker Posey's overacting made me love the movie. I love the campiness.

    • @RandomNirvanaSXE
      @RandomNirvanaSXE Před 2 lety +4

      "I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS!!"
      "WAIT FOR THE FUCKING MOVIE!"

    • @user-gs6zx8rg7i
      @user-gs6zx8rg7i Před 2 lety +9

      10/10 movie. Sick of horror obsessed weirdos saying its bad because it makes has no logic, neither do 90% of movies. It's entertaining as hell.

    • @DonyeWhite
      @DonyeWhite Před 11 měsíci

      @@user-gs6zx8rg7ijust because it’s entertaining doesn’t make it a good movie 😂🤡

  • @will_it_work
    @will_it_work Před 2 lety +68

    I actually like the killer reveal in Scream 3. I like how they tied it back into the events of the first film with Sydney's Mom.

    • @blakeharris58
      @blakeharris58 Před 2 lety +9

      It was great, but revealing Angelina as the 2nd killer would have been perfect.

    • @The_MEMEphis
      @The_MEMEphis Před rokem +5

      It was a forced retcon

    • @allworksnew
      @allworksnew Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@The_MEMEphislike damn how OLD is Roman for real

  • @tellemstevedave5559
    @tellemstevedave5559 Před 2 lety +43

    Disagree about the characterizations of the trio. Gale is pure Gale, Sidney has sensible development following part 2 and Dewey is still loveable and determined.

    • @arturocas90
      @arturocas90 Před 2 lety

      There's a lot of Monica Geller in Gale in Scream 3, that is the ONLY one I can give, and I truly don't think it was the writters fault, perhaps it was the directon given to focuse more on the comedic tone that Courteney pulled her Monica unconciously, that is the only one I do see.

  • @magicalpasta5462
    @magicalpasta5462 Před 2 lety +15

    I actually like scream 3 as a guilty pleasure, and I enjoyed Parker Posey's sass

  • @StuntMan_Marq
    @StuntMan_Marq Před 2 lety +225

    I've never really hated Scream 3. I don't it's as bad as people make it out to be and it's certainly not as bad as other horror movie franchises that have 10+ sequels. The Scream movies are quite possibly the best in terms of continuity or just the fact that they're all really easy to get into and follow unlike most slasher movie sequels. I think people forget that they're just slasher movies and that they really only have to be Fun not Oscar worthy cinema. Don't get me wrong, I wish all the Scream movies were as good as the first movie but we all know that nothing ever lives up to the original movie in almost any franchise no matter what the genre is which is the characters argument within Scream 2. Another piece of unintentional meta irony is the plot of Scream 3 having a sleazy Hollywood producer at the center of the story and then having the whole Weinstein thing happen is crazy meta and as tragic as you can get.

    • @baconj9155
      @baconj9155 Před 2 lety +7

      Even crazier is Harvey Weinstein was a producer for the Scream movies

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 Před 2 lety +6

      *likely not unintentional.
      Wienstein's casting couch was an open secret in hollywood.

    • @mtb5431
      @mtb5431 Před 2 lety +4

      I’ve always liked Scream 3 better then 2 although I don’t consider either film close to being as good as the original or even Scream 4.
      What sets 3 above 2 for me is despite the underwhelming reveal, I think the third act is far more exciting.

    • @mattjindrak
      @mattjindrak Před 2 lety

      Raphael is in it. It can't be that bad

    • @chanceneck8072
      @chanceneck8072 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean, it´s my least favorite of the series, but I still think, Scream 3 is a pretty dang good horror film!

  • @seanhickin9959
    @seanhickin9959 Před 2 lety +26

    as it has many flaws i still feel Scream 3 has one of the best most eerie scenes when Sydney is dreaming and sees her mother in her secluded house, everything about that scene is perfect and is genuinely haunting and the music just adds to the creepiness

    • @JLDReactions
      @JLDReactions Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, but those scenes lean too much into the supernatural. Yes, I know they are dream sequences, but the tone of those scenes don't fit with Scream- much too typical of a horror cliche. And how is that she was having eerie dreams about her mother coincidentally as Roman was taunting her in bloody sheets and such? Too much of a coincidence.

    • @Parasite1101
      @Parasite1101 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree with both of you, while I really loved the scenes with her mum, and I actually found it to be some of the creepier scenes in the whole franchise, it definitely stood out and a little out of place when compared to everything else, dream sequence or not.

    • @Stigmatix666
      @Stigmatix666 Před 2 lety +2

      That’s the best scene in the entire movie. I literally got shivers the first time I watched it.
      Too bad about the forced comedy in the movie, though. It was on par with Scary Movie, and that’s not a compliment

    • @SUHLESTlAL
      @SUHLESTlAL Před 2 lety +3

      I hate everything that had to do with her mom, gets too far into melodramatic. We didnt need that stuff, the 4th and 5th prove it.

    • @Stigmatix666
      @Stigmatix666 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SUHLESTlAL We really don’t need Sidney at all anymore. Or even the survivor trio. Scream 5 proved that

  • @AustinWetzel
    @AustinWetzel Před 2 lety +77

    “Wtf happened to” is literally my favorite CZcams series, I’ve watched every one. A lot of them multiple times. Keep up the good work 👍

    • @JoBloHorrorOriginals
      @JoBloHorrorOriginals  Před 2 lety +14

      Thank you! Appreciate the support

    • @freshparkfilms
      @freshparkfilms Před 2 lety +1

      I know right I get so excited when I see a new one...but a new one about scream?! UBER PUMPED

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před 2 lety +53

    It's interesting that Jay and Silent Bob made a cameo in Scream 3 while Wes Craven made a cameo in "J& SB Strike Back."

    • @itslouiemoo8018
      @itslouiemoo8018 Před 2 lety +3

      That's because I believe they were filming at the same time.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +7

      It's still so weird that Scream is in the same universe as Jay and Silent Bob. By this logic, I wouldn't be surprised if Wes Craven's New Nightmare was also in his timeline if they exist.

    • @MrParkerman6
      @MrParkerman6 Před 2 lety

      ....but in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, Shannen Doherty is Sidney!

    • @jamesdonoughue4557
      @jamesdonoughue4557 Před 2 lety +3

      The c l.i.t is very real

    • @itslouiemoo8018
      @itslouiemoo8018 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jamesdonoughue4557 It's the female orgasm, that's the myth!!

  • @TheAmateurEditor
    @TheAmateurEditor Před 2 lety +95

    Bringing back Stu from the dead would have been absolutely dreadful. Stu was never even brought up in the 2nd film, not even as a throwaway "Stu's still locked up in prison, so we know he's not the killer".
    If he survived he would have gone through the legal process in some fashion, probably a highly publicised event regardless of whether or not he plead guilty or chose to have a trial. Either way, resurrecting him would essentially render Mickey's motive from the 2nd film, to blame the movies and have a big trial, utterly pointless.

    • @doshi066
      @doshi066 Před 2 lety +13

      i agree and hope this storyline never sees the light of day

    • @exquisitelemonade3039
      @exquisitelemonade3039 Před 2 lety +4

      He was brought up in the 2nd, when Randy was on the phone before his death, but of course he was talked about less than Billy.

    • @hllywood72
      @hllywood72 Před 2 lety +10

      THANK YOU. Stu being the killer would be have been just ridiculous and bad. I think Scream 3 gets unnecessary hate--I can honestly say I like it better than Scream 2.

    • @radlee974
      @radlee974 Před 2 lety +6

      THANK YOU! I love Matthew as Stu but bringing him back seems waaay too silly and unbelievable/dumb to me. (And I can buy a *lot* of silly/dumb shit.) And sooo many people are begging for his return. (There is NO way he survived and no one knew about it or mentioned it since then.) I’m *SO* glad that they haven’t tried to bring him back.

    • @doshi066
      @doshi066 Před 2 lety +4

      @@radlee974 it may have worked for scream 3 original idea but that was 22 years ago..it won't work now plus..he was also stabbed multiple times...he would of died from loss of blood

  • @JoelARTPOP88
    @JoelARTPOP88 Před 2 lety +10

    Scream 3 was my favourite actually. I think it was a mix of the comedy and the technology of voice changer.

    • @theshape3988
      @theshape3988 Před 2 lety +1

      To me it's underrated and better than Scream 4. I think the atmosphere is creepy in it. The voice changer could've been executed more

  • @JayScarim
    @JayScarim Před 2 lety +3

    I KNEW IT!!! It's always been my theory that Angelina was involved as Roman's partner. As you said, Ghostface was in too many spots at once and Angelina was unaccounted for. It was my theory that as Roman got closer to his end game, he didn't need Angelina anymore so off to her so he would get all the credit. After all, he would follow his own advice "get a partner to sell out in case you get caught."

  • @HellMotel-Chris
    @HellMotel-Chris Před 2 lety +10

    Emily Mortimer would have KILLED in the Ghostface reveal. She's a great actress and it's a shame that character was so neutered.

  • @bigbrytunney8753
    @bigbrytunney8753 Před rokem +4

    I'm glad we got THIS "Scream 3" The first SCREAM is iconic and SCREAM 2 was almost as good. I think i was in 7th grade when i saw SCREAM 3 in theatre, but didn't realize Columbine had such an effect on it. I remember trying to find a seat while Cotton Weary was driving like a madman to get home. The killer reveal was weak and i didn't like the ghost of Sid's mother stalking her, but i actually did enjoy the comedy elements of it, especially Parker Posey.

    • @Father_of_Death
      @Father_of_Death Před rokem +2

      "Scream 3" isn't as bad as people say it is. It's just that all of the edits and rewrites make it seem like a re-edit of a PG-13 film.

  • @zacharyrichter4759
    @zacharyrichter4759 Před 2 lety +18

    Stu was removed from the script 3 months before preproduction His role was recruiting highschoolers to do the killings from inside prison for a "cult". It was scrapped because of columbine happened and so they rewrote the script.

    • @kdeb92968
      @kdeb92968 Před rokem

      So dumb they shoulda just made it anyway 😂

    • @Aaliyahchannel2024
      @Aaliyahchannel2024 Před rokem +3

      @@kdeb92968 would of happened if it wasn't for Chris Harris and Dylan Klebold

    • @jordancaleb3419
      @jordancaleb3419 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Aaliyahchannel2024facts!

    • @Father_of_Death
      @Father_of_Death Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@kdeb92968that would have exploited Columbine and would have drummed up controversy...
      That's not a smart thing to do.

  • @alejandromolinac
    @alejandromolinac Před 2 lety +23

    I just love to un ironically Scream 3 lays out Hollywood’s Sleazy culture…. Shame this entry was super “Lite” on the gore and violence ….. grew to love it years later….

  • @bipolarewok
    @bipolarewok Před 2 lety +45

    To be fair, stu being any kind of mastermind goes pretty much against what the character ended up being. Maybe it made sense before lillard was cast or before they rewrote the script making stu more of a sidekick.

    • @tapset
      @tapset Před 2 lety +2

      Not to mention there is no way he would survive the tv assualt

    • @bipolarewok
      @bipolarewok Před 2 lety +2

      @@tapset 90s TVs ain't nothing to joke about. I still have a scar from the attack of a 29" that fall on my finger.

    • @tapset
      @tapset Před 2 lety +1

      @@bipolarewok for real they were so heavy...not to mention he got electrocuted too

  • @jay2thaudy
    @jay2thaudy Před 2 lety +17

    Ok. I love scream 3. I must be in the minority! I thought it was hilarious. I would have watch a full movie of just the 2 Gales trying to solve a murder together. Shit was hilarious!

  • @laurarules3642
    @laurarules3642 Před 2 lety +12

    I remember going to the cinema to watch the original and it certainly breathed new life into the slasher film which was on its way out back then. It's sequels are a mixed bag but I always watch them all back to back once every couple of years and they have great re-watch value

  • @GroovyFlacko
    @GroovyFlacko Před 2 lety +5

    Going back and fourth between the name Krueger and craven through me in a Freddy universe😂
    Great vid man. Had no clue about the backstory to this mess

  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +84

    I remember hearing one original plot Kevin Williamson wanted was to have a cult of Stab fans coming together to stalk Sidney, taking the appearance of Ghostface. The ending twist reveals everyone who died in her college was all a morbid prank, and nobody was killed. A very April Fools Day style ending. Which probably would've upset fans but I don't mind it, because it would've one of the only original ideas for the 3rd movie.

    • @keithk2879
      @keithk2879 Před 2 lety +16

      That sounds dreadful.

    • @scyzo2451
      @scyzo2451 Před 2 lety +1

      @@keithk2879 VERY dreadful.

    • @LambentEntertainment
      @LambentEntertainment Před 2 lety +14

      Just because something is “original” does NOT make it good. Movie goers today don’t seem to realize that.

    • @NoonyJW
      @NoonyJW Před 2 lety +4

      @@LambentEntertainment given almost nothing today is original I can’t blame them

  • @limetreess
    @limetreess Před 2 lety +11

    I don’t hate Scream 3 but I do HATE two aspects of it that just bother me so bad. First the voice changer is just so cheap and makes no sense, it’s 2022 and I still have no clue how that tech would work. All the trickery it caused just irked me to my core. The second is when Gail checks Romans pulse and he doesn’t have one but then he’s the killer tf???
    I wish Stu would’ve come back and I know Matthew Lillard wanted it too, he’s totally a highlight of the series even tho he’s only in the first one and I think we all miss him. I don’t understand why it was so rushed, they should have just altered the timing of filming rather than just slapping this together.

    • @LeolaGlamour
      @LeolaGlamour Před 2 lety +3

      Deep fakes are a thing now, I don’t know why people act like the technology isn’t here now.

    • @frankwest9304
      @frankwest9304 Před 2 lety +2

      Exactly voice changing technology has been around since the early 2000s

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 Před 2 lety

      @@frankwest9304 It's still not perfect and would be very noticeably fake. Linus Tech Tips used Deepfake voice technology and it took a sound-a-like, a powerful AI and a sample of Linus' voice to make it work quite right. The way it is used in the movie is very sci-fi even for 2020 technology.

  • @josebro352
    @josebro352 Před 2 lety +3

    "Holy shit Silent Bob it's that TV news chick Connie fucking Chung! Hey Connie how's Maury?"

  • @christinebphelan5490
    @christinebphelan5490 Před 2 lety +6

    I really like Scream 3, the LA setting and the Stab cast and the mother stuff was pretty creepy. Granted the killer reveal wasn't as good as the others but in general I liked it when I saw it in the cinema and 1-3 will always be the originals to me. 4 & '5' are like the new generation. Still good but different series.

  • @brennicolas3093
    @brennicolas3093 Před 2 lety +4

    Scream 3 is Citizen Kane compared to Freddy’s Dead, Jason X, Halloween: Resurrection, or Hellraiser 5-10 (or any Hellraiser after Hellbound, depending on who you ask). And they’ve still managed to top it with the two most recent sequels, so I think all the hate this movie still gets to this day is a little tired and uncalled for.

  • @QuadiePoo
    @QuadiePoo Před 2 lety +6

    I really like Scream 3. It's goofy and fun. It also has some of the best quotes of the whole franchise. I find it to be quite underrated. It's my favorite horror franchise, and yeah, it might be slump in the series, it's far from a bad movie

  • @bofawhatsbofa4593
    @bofawhatsbofa4593 Před 2 lety +1

    🔥👌🏼just found this channel and am watching all the old WTF videos now. Don’t know what the others are about but I’ll maybe watch them when I’m done doing the WTF vids

  • @contrabandresearch8409
    @contrabandresearch8409 Před 2 lety +11

    I haven't seen the latest Scream, but this one is my favorite. Hearing about these behind the scenes troubles, and how the final movie turned out, and the open secrets being kept in Hollywood, no wonder this movie is very anti-Weinstein.

  • @weddingvideographerireland

    I remember when they were making SCREAM 4, and Wes Craven tweeted out that the script had been taken out of his hands and he was no longer in control.

  • @PaigeSinclaire
    @PaigeSinclaire Před 2 lety +7

    I felt like Patrick Dempseys character in 3 shoulda been one of the killers

    • @Ishitonyou666
      @Ishitonyou666 Před 2 lety +2

      I thought he was the killer when I first saw the movie lol

  • @michaeldiamond2755
    @michaeldiamond2755 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the ideas of Sidney killing an aggressive fan and Stu being alive.

  • @snozberry87
    @snozberry87 Před 2 lety +1

    I just can’t get enough of this channel! Love it!!!!

  • @SuperJutah
    @SuperJutah Před 2 lety +1

    I just found your channel today and i've already binged on 10+ videos!!!

  • @agraciotti
    @agraciotti Před 2 lety +14

    Despite being messy plot-wise, I absolute LOVE Scream 3 and I think it aged much better than 2 or 4 upon a rewatch.

    • @hllywood72
      @hllywood72 Před 2 lety +2

      YES. I have always liked it better than Scream 2.

    • @ethancharles2189
      @ethancharles2189 Před 2 lety +2

      That's interesting. I think Scream 4 has aged the best. Scream 4 is the only one that is prophetic.

    • @Stigmatix666
      @Stigmatix666 Před 2 lety +2

      No, it didn’t. I bet you prefer Scary Movie to Scream as well, then?

  • @RAMBO-mu2zm
    @RAMBO-mu2zm Před 2 lety +9

    I found it funny how this movie had a lot of rewrites and we end up with some story about how movie producers take advantage of small actress to get bigger roles and years later it comes out with how Harvey Weinstein was doing the same things as the movie was trying to shine light on it!!
    Really sort of bragging about if you think about it
    Just my thoughts really

  • @Elizabelle79
    @Elizabelle79 Před rokem

    It does have that delicious homage to 'Psycho' when Sidney is following her mother's voice in the set house, and the camera shots directly imitate those from 'Psycho'. I was studying the film at the time, so it was a happy coincidence in my life. :)

  • @molasorrosalom4846
    @molasorrosalom4846 Před 2 lety +2

    I'll be honest, I only saw it once, when it first came out, but I still remember enjoying it.

  • @Rambonii
    @Rambonii Před 2 lety +2

    Always felt this one is a spoof of itself and liked it more than two

  • @martinpedersen1392
    @martinpedersen1392 Před 2 lety

    Good stuff. Many don’t know that Williamson took his version of Scream 3 and made The Following tv show. It has a similar feel

  • @sparkfadingspark
    @sparkfadingspark Před 2 lety +11

    I still get mad thinking about what the franchise could have been if we had gotten Williamson's version of Scream 3 with Stu as the bad guy. I've also heard there was a plan to do something like having all the victims actually be faking their deaths and actually working with Stu, possibly part of a cult - and I also love that idea. Williamson wound up using the idea for The Following - a show I also loved but can admit had alot of flaws.

  • @uglygiantbagsofmostlywater

    I think calling part 4 just 'Scream' is an intended jab at those lazy sequel titles. But that doesn't make it any less stupid to do it themselves.

  • @livstylerewind
    @livstylerewind Před 2 lety +4

    I still love Scream 3. More than Scream 2 & 4. I was 10 when I first saw it so maybe that has something to do with it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @jackdelyea3710
    @jackdelyea3710 Před 2 lety

    Incredible work, joblo ! And I love scream 3

  • @OrbbKlesk
    @OrbbKlesk Před 2 lety

    In my brain, one of the most defining presences in the Scrum movies is Cotton Weary. I imagine that it is he who is singing "The Red Right Hand." It just looks like if he went up on stage to sing, he'd have that sort of voice, and he'd be creating the Woodsboro Scrum Ghostface atmosphere!

  • @BrettJamesBishop
    @BrettJamesBishop Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video!!!

  • @taurinstraiter2325
    @taurinstraiter2325 Před 2 lety +3

    Good editing here. Did you know Ehren Kruger received an "Executive Producer" credit on Scream 4 (2011)? Maybe because Gale says they've been through this 3 times. Anyway, There is at least ONE THING that Scream 3 has OVER the beloved Scream 4 (2011). And that is the OPENING KILL SCENE. I don't get your complaint in any way. After Scream 2 (1997) Cotton Weary's death is the absolute right way to go and considerably more impactful than the "name this recognizable pretty face" game as the opening to Scream 4 (2011). Thankfully Scream 4 (2011) becomes a very solid sequel after that passing part 3 but still, after Scream 2 THAT was the RIGHT WAY to pull Sidney into the story. Again, that is the only thing very obviously in my opinion better than in the next chapter (which succeeds with pretty much everything else over part 3)

  • @flippineck2825
    @flippineck2825 Před 2 lety

    The whole concept being so meta, I always thought the big final reveal would be like a cross between the Trueman show & the purge.
    The people giving horror trope tips were actors, everyone else was living in this sick hunger games hyper-realism TV slasher show.
    Imagine at the end some "dead" people are production crew.

  • @mrhumble2937
    @mrhumble2937 Před 2 lety +7

    I liked this movie.

  • @justabruin
    @justabruin Před rokem

    Wes Craven said the Angelina development could never ever even be sold so it wasn't late in the game. They couldn't even sell it that way. By the time filming came around that idea was gone already. She seems obvious because they instead just made her a red herring as other characters have been given across the movies (Kirby in 6).

  • @deadrare7440
    @deadrare7440 Před 2 lety

    both you and 3c films uploaded a video on scream 3 almost at the exact same time, must be a pretty interesting movie

  • @penskepc2374
    @penskepc2374 Před rokem

    Literally the first time I've heard the first time I heard someone mention the movie Drowning Mona in 20 years.

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist Před 2 lety +2

    I remember seeing this in theaters and called it would be her magical long lost brother. I didn't know how or why...but I just knew

    • @Aaliyahchannel2024
      @Aaliyahchannel2024 Před rokem

      Haha I was kinda similar. I picked it was Roman... brother thing seem to come out of no where

  • @SpacemanAbe
    @SpacemanAbe Před 2 lety +3

    For more WTF unmade movies you should do Tim Burton’s Batman 3 and Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 4

  • @DavidKen878
    @DavidKen878 Před 2 lety +4

    If you look back at Scream 2, it's always mentioned how Billy was killed, never Stu. Sidney even said herself she killed him. So I see what Kevin Williamson was doing with his setup of making Stu the killer in the third film.

    • @nathanielbacon2661
      @nathanielbacon2661 Před 2 lety

      Good point. (Except, it was Williamson's plan to make Stu the killer. Krueger was the one who changed it to Roman).

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nathanielbacon2661 You're absolutely right. I mistyped him name.

    • @nathanielbacon2661
      @nathanielbacon2661 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DavidKen878 But you're totally right about how careful they were not to mention Stu at all. Very clever.

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nathanielbacon2661 It wasn't until this video that I realized it. Everytime I heard about Stu coming back, I always thought it was dumb because it didn't make sense. But then it clicked in my head that Stu being in jail wouldn't necessarily be brought up in Scream 2 because what purpose would that conversation have? Especially if his being the killer was a surprise being saved for Scream 3.

    • @Ishitonyou666
      @Ishitonyou666 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DavidKen878 to be honest I’d prefer that version then the one we had . Never liked Scream 3 (director/Stepbrother)

  • @devdadon582
    @devdadon582 Před 2 lety

    that quote from billy at 5:47 would've been great in Scream 5

  • @MaryTheresa1986
    @MaryTheresa1986 Před 2 lety +1

    Craven and the higher ups should've just bided their time. Williamson and Neve would've been available eventually, the latter of whom would've been thankful for work after Party of 5 wrapped up and offers started to dwindle. They probably could've started working on the film in 2001-2002 with a 2002-2003 premiere and everything would've been fine.

  • @dariog101
    @dariog101 Před 2 lety +1

    Kevin Williamson sold the original script for Scream along with the treatments for Scream 2 and Scream 3. It is impossible that the original idea was to get Stu back in Scream 3 because in the original script Stu was shot in the head. Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson have never admitted that Stu was going to return in Scream 3. Kevin and Wes have always talked about the killers in the first version of Scream 3 being the principal's daughter and a group of Stab fans.

  • @baileycreager2257
    @baileycreager2257 Před 2 lety +1

    I think for the new film they stuck with the title "Scream" cause of the 2018 Halloween. Reboot of the franchise. Bringing back the same characters from the original years into the future. My guess is it's the start of a new series of films like how it was with the newer Halloween. Plus Scream likes to reference Halloween so it makes sense.

  • @alexmelendez6732
    @alexmelendez6732 Před 2 lety

    Theres even more to this. The actor that played roman did not even know he would be the killer until shooting through the movie. Many changes and re writtes. Also heard while 1st script was def angelina as 2nd killer 2nd script was to use her to throw us off as dewey would be the guy that helped roman. 3rd was kinkaid to also be the guy that helped roman. Lots of situations. Plus they didnt want too much blood also the company wantex to turn this into more of a cat & mouse chase thriller type as sidney goes on the run. This had sooooo much problems im actually happy with how it turned out. Who knows the new one can help tie the loose ends here and actually show that roman had a helper for new reveal

    • @tomwigal8856
      @tomwigal8856 Před rokem

      That's an old Hollywood trick that is still used to this day not telling anybody including actor who is the killer until almost the end because after all they are just human like the rest of us Keeping a Secret like that is not easy for anybody

  • @lyricamarsh
    @lyricamarsh Před 24 dny

    Thank you for perfectly putting into words what felt so off about this movie! It doesn't matter how enjoyable it might've been -- being funny or campy or intense or what have you -- the issue is that it doesn't fit in well with the Scream mold! Had it been a stand alone film with different characters that's another story; but since what we received was not the projected track that the story was supposed to go on, it feels so disconnected from the first two

  • @gene92tm
    @gene92tm Před 2 lety +1

    My biggest complaint is gale weathers' bangs

  • @joshberninger8355
    @joshberninger8355 Před 2 lety +13

    I would love to see them use the Stu idea for a future sequel. Maybe Scream 6 could bring him back and do his story.

  • @roye5674
    @roye5674 Před 9 měsíci

    Whatever scream 3 lacks it makes up for in those creepy ass scenes with Sidney’s mom lol those had me traumatized as a kid 😂

  • @julcaos
    @julcaos Před 2 lety

    Drowning Mona is one hell of a movie.

  • @beejay271
    @beejay271 Před 2 lety +14

    Based off of the information in this review I'm thinking Stew may be the killer in Scream 5.

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 Před 2 lety

      Stu is dead. How would that be possible?

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 Před 2 lety +2

      @@beejay271 Yeah, but no details were given as to how. Scream 2 never mentioned Stu surviving or being in jail. So it's just odd for two movies later to spring on us how he's been alive all this time.

    • @djcastano1180
      @djcastano1180 Před 2 lety +4

      Stew is the killer. Guys scream 5 is officially a “food killer” movie. When they take the mask off the pot on the stove they reveal it wasn’t chili, chicken noodle or clam chowder. It was stew all along.

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 Před 2 lety

      @@djcastano1180 If that's true, why would you comment it?

    • @djcastano1180
      @djcastano1180 Před 2 lety

      @@DavidKen878 did you expect it to be the chicken noodle and not the stew?

  • @ZnDStudios
    @ZnDStudios Před 2 lety +5

    Wow that original opening sounds awesome and is a much more powerful opening for the character of Sidney. Wish we got something like that!

  • @thedestructivegamermycomic2628

    Who else is exited for scream 5 but also amazing vids

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall Před 2 lety +3

    It makes me wonder if they weren’t so adamant of production commencing when it did and waited for Kevin Williamson to be able to do a rewrite of his script, if Williamson would have been able to salvage enough of his original idea for Scream 3 to be able to be seen on the big screen. I think Scream 3 is the weakest in the franchise, but it’s not bad. Hearing what the original idea for the film is makes me wonder if it could have worked had enough time been allowed for Wes Craven to be able to create an ending of the trilogy that would have been satisfying for everyone making the film and the audience at large. It’s one of those what ifs that we won’t get to see.

  • @penskepc2374
    @penskepc2374 Před rokem

    I'm pretty sure the last two films gave enough of an explanation for Sidney living in the woods.

  • @nickoffury
    @nickoffury Před 2 lety

    Ya’ll should give the original script a read. It’s online and it’s a good read. The opening kill takes place on the Hollywood Sign with new characters

  • @BBAU-YouTube
    @BBAU-YouTube Před 2 lety +1

    I have seen the new Scream (5) movie tonight!
    it's ok but if the original 3 were not in this it wouldn't of worked!
    Also ( spoiler free) the killer reveal doesn't really have a proper explanation unlike Scream 4!
    There is good...this is the most graphic out of them all!
    ... Definitely go see it & enjoy...

  • @sourpatchkid394
    @sourpatchkid394 Před 2 lety +2

    There is no story about Courtney coxs bangs?!?

  • @MistarZtv
    @MistarZtv Před 2 lety +1

    im so excited for the possibility of the scream tv series returning with its original mtv cast so they can close the storylines properly.

    • @Stigmatix666
      @Stigmatix666 Před 2 lety

      That would be cool, but I doubt it will ever happen

  • @flintybraz1
    @flintybraz1 Před 2 lety

    I worked on Scream 2. I met all of the cast and they were cool. I even met BUFFY!!!! :)

  • @randomguyontheinternet8345

    It’s funny you meantion Ed naming sequels has become hard.
    I totally agree. At the same time I kinda get it. Because then there will be Scream 8 or Scream 20
    Now I think future sequels to movies will no longer have an added title “eventually”
    It’ll probably be Scream 2022 or Scream 2025
    Oh yea have you seen the Scream 2030 film? Yea I liked the 2025 one.
    Future movie discussions are likely to end up like that

  • @michaelmartino16
    @michaelmartino16 Před 2 měsíci

    Stu Mather being in prison without the main cast knowing it would be absolutely idiotic

  • @jpratm1993
    @jpratm1993 Před 2 lety +1

    Love #Scream3 the insanity and hilarity of it made it fun... love Parker Posey and the Killer Reveal was completely surprising... bringing in Stu would of been redundant for me... it's not great but it was fun ... love it.

  • @JediRyu99
    @JediRyu99 Před 2 lety

    Ok this is going to sound wild...But I remember I heard a few theories that there was a 3rd killer in Scream 1, that was supposed to be Roman....Like the Ghostface scene at a store, which couldnt have been stu or billy, "because" they were talking to Randy at the video store...Which would of connected him to Scream 3, and as the mastermind, the whole time, pulling the strings...True story...👍 🍿

  • @allworksnew
    @allworksnew Před 9 měsíci

    You say we would gave gotten sidney in the beginning rather than cotton as it answers why she lives where she does. However its obvious from part 2 that sidney is lonely plus 4 psycos tried killer her dude so of course she lives alone that was obvious from the jump (now how she is able to afford that house just from a call center is crazy) also cotton getting killed is a good opening since he has a big connection to sidneys life.

  • @carlredbird3054
    @carlredbird3054 Před 2 lety +4

    Just watched this last night, and it's still fun to watch, but not as good as the first one

    • @03bgood
      @03bgood Před 2 lety

      Just watched it two nights ago and yeah, it isn't a bad sequel, just nowhere near as good as the first two.

  • @mrhumble2937
    @mrhumble2937 Před 2 lety +3

    I still didn't get the ending tho. They found the killers body? Or was that a fake? They never explained it.

    • @jaysarandrea
      @jaysarandrea Před 2 lety

      You mean when they find Roman's body? He's in a basement full of movie props, he used props and fake blood to make it seem like he was dead. It was his body laying there, he just played dead.

    • @mrhumble2937
      @mrhumble2937 Před 2 lety

      @@jaysarandrea I dunno thought it was weird. Guess they could do that every season since no one actually checks. Wasn't brought up again, like OMG thought u were dead.

  • @Jamieandrew1156
    @Jamieandrew1156 Před 2 lety

    Scream 1-4 are epic!

  • @Raptor727
    @Raptor727 Před 8 měsíci

    Courtney nahhh not the clip bangs💀😭

  • @Father_of_Death
    @Father_of_Death Před 4 měsíci

    Carrie Fisher also did the rewrites for Bianca Burnette.

  • @SouthPlaya
    @SouthPlaya Před 4 měsíci

    I stand by Milton was the second killer in scream 3. Milton being a second killer makes the most sense although it just never got revealed bcus I think Roman wanted to make everyone think he was did everything alone

  • @Kia-iq7dh
    @Kia-iq7dh Před rokem

    Kind of ironic in a way that the movie ended up being about filming a stab 3 also ends up not being released 😂

  • @BuckarooBanzai84
    @BuckarooBanzai84 Před 2 lety

    "A version that would've made Sydney more of a Linda-Hamilton-in-'Terminator'-type." HMMM, sounds familiar.... =)

  • @jolfer1334
    @jolfer1334 Před 2 lety

    What a coincidence that 3c and you guys both talk about this on the same day....

  • @1neOfN0ne
    @1neOfN0ne Před 2 lety +2

    Party of Five wasn't on tv when Scream 3 was in production... It wasn't even on tv when Scream 2 was in production

    • @tomasdiaz5546
      @tomasdiaz5546 Před rokem

      it was, party of five final episode was may 3, 2000. but if I recall correctly, neve campbell was doing another movie during scream 3 production.

  • @awardedaqua580
    @awardedaqua580 Před 2 lety +1

    The new scream was really good imo

  • @thedarkonestaint6105
    @thedarkonestaint6105 Před 2 lety +3

    That hair of Courtney's though... idk who thought that was a good idea.

    • @gbrown932
      @gbrown932 Před 2 lety +1

      She pissed off hair and makeup lol

    • @andrewd.7019
      @andrewd.7019 Před 2 lety +1

      Those bangs were scarier than Ghostface.

  • @leejohnstone894
    @leejohnstone894 Před 2 lety

    The woman in question is the one found in Woodsboro town square wrongly identified as Maureen Prescott

  • @guilhermerls2272
    @guilhermerls2272 Před rokem

    Well, I kinda like it... Especially the 3act, the fight between Sidney and Roman is so well directed, and I like the ideia about Roman has started everything, the fact that he's Sidney's brother... However, as a whole is a mess 😂😂😂 (I like Parker Posey on the movie as well and Carey Fisher cameo... And the end, when Sidney looks to the door and she doesn't lock it... ). That scene Dewey is hitted by a knife in his forehead is SO lame!! And not to mention Gale checking Roman's pulse thinking he's dead but he's not... WTF???? Can he stop his heartbeat?

  • @re9246
    @re9246 Před 2 lety

    The third act was pure Scream. Everything before Sid comes to the mansion is weak.
    Roman “directing” everything, Sid being a badass post the ending of Scream 2, and Sid leaving the door open as she watches a movie with her friends was symmetrical.

  • @CrowaX
    @CrowaX Před 2 lety

    11:32 That movies was those imitators?

  • @coolwill78
    @coolwill78 Před 2 lety +1

    Dude, I kind of love it. Stu was the best character

  • @sylvainmirouf4683
    @sylvainmirouf4683 Před 2 lety

    Scream a horror movie ???
    Ah Ah ah !!! Thanks for the laugh.