WTF Happened to Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers?
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2022
- Making a HALLOWEEN 3 without iconic slasher Michael Myers, hadn’t worked out very well. The plan had been to turn HALLOWEEN into an anthology series - but that plan went down in flames. Fans were disappointed. The HALLOWEEN franchise was tarnished so badly, major studios didn’t want to touch it. Michael Myers needed to come back for HALLOWEEN 4, and the filmmakers had to make sure his return was a triumphant one. And they did, which is why we’re still getting Michael Myers movies to this day. How did they accomplish their mission? Let’s find out in this episode of WTF Happened To This Horror Movie?
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Written by Cody Hamman
Narrated by Jason Hewlett
Edited by Paul Bookstaber
Produced by John Fallon and Tyler Nichols
Executive Producer by Berge Garabedian
SERIES SYNOPSIS: Hollywood has had its fair share of historically troubled productions. Whether it was casting changes, actor deaths, fired directors, in-production rewrites, constant delays, budget cuts or studio edits, these films had every intention to be a blockbuster but were beset with unforeseen disasters. Sometimes huge hits, sometimes box office bombs. Either way, we have to ask: WTF Happened To This Horror Movie?
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The scene where Dr. Loomis gets picked up by the preacher & drives him to town while talking about cutting down damnation in all forms was my favorite scene in the movie.
Not gonna lie, the first time I saw the film, I was sort of hoping that the preacher would hear Loomis’s story about Micheal, and being so moved by it, would then sober up and help him take down the Shape. Would have been awesome!
"In here old man"
is that when he shouts "IT'S LOOMIN TIME!"?
Oh thank you
They honestly should have explored what the preacher said in relation to Michael in the other movies. That would have been fascinating!
Dr loomis screaming no when he saw Jamie at the end was so eerie and well done. that scene lasted with me for ages after I watched it, still does now. I felt so sorry for him, he was genuinely terrified and felt like he had failed Jamie.
🤣🤣🤣 Dr. Loomis was about to blow her brain out
@@fonfon5232 she just murdered someone, I don't blame him! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This ending and how good H4 turned out to be, are what cemented Moustapha Akkad as a true talent and visionary of the Halloween series. Sure he made some stinkers too but H4 was his finest and showed how passionate he was for the series itself.
It was Micheal all over again
Loomis: “I *HAVE* failed you, Jamie!… You were supposed to SAVE the holiday, not BECOME it!”
Jamie:
Halloween 4 is one of my favorite slasher movies, they played it pretty safe in this movie. People wanted Michael Myers back so that's what they got.
I liked Halloween 3 too.
Really wish they took this approach with ends and played it safe and generic, sometimes a basic formula isn't a bad thing
I thought Joe Biden played a excellent Michael Myers
I see it getting a lot of hate nowadays for playing it safe but as long as it’s good,who cares.Still 10x better then several “innovative” sequels in this franchise
@BK Beatty I think that’s why John Carpenter is still so pissed the fuck off about Halloween II.
He was forced to write the second one to avoid being sued…. when he wanted an anthology from the beginning.
The sunset trick or treaters in H3 and the opening of H4 are visually the most beautiful in any horror movie. Ever. Just perfect ❤
I love the panning shot of the trick-or treaters toward the end of the montage in Halloween 3. The trick-or-treaters walk past the camera in silhouette, the sun setting behind them. The camera pans with them and stops on the city in the distance as darkness descends and the Silver Shamrock jingle fades out. It's such a haunting shot, clearly a metaphor for the looming threat that is about to descend upon every city in the country. Dean Cundey was such an incredible DP.
This is my second favorite Halloween movie, the introduction of Jamie and Rachel were great, both of them were super relatable. The dialogue were easily the best amongst the whole franchise. I love the community concensus of it all, everyone knows who Michael is, and they were ready to fight him off, instead of got killed in absolute oblivion like most of the other sequels. And of course, that mind blowing ending.
It's in my top 3 movies of the Halloween franchise.
I love the atmosphere, the cast, the ending.
I feel like people overlook this one because it’s technically part of the “thorn trilogy”, but honestly you could just watch 1, 2, and 4 and it would be a satisfying trilogy in it of itself. I mean this one makes no mention of the thorn cult, it’s so easy to separate this from 5 and 6. Great sequel that too many people underrate because of the movies that followed.
part 6 is still and always will be the best for MYERS and atmosphere
@@cazz8017 Nah, i think Halloween Kills Michael takes the cake but it's your opinion so.
Halloween 4 is one of my favorite movies; a must watch every year. I've always loved the way it's told largely from a child's POV which enhances that Boogieman aspect of Michael Myers & also taps in to what the original film gave us with the characters of Tommy Doyle & Lindsey Wallace.
As a child, your fears are always larger than life--an unstoppable force & to have that realized as a flesh & blood entity out to get you...this movie embodies that so well from beginning to end.
A believable small town, brooding atmosphere that lingers throughout the film with genuine tension & scares. What more could you ask for?
I agree, Halloween 4 is one of my favorite movies in the franchise. Plus it has some of the best kills of the series.
@@user-kp2pb4hj7d Agreed! 💯
This was imo the best sequel with the best twist ending.
Halloween 4 is my fav halloween movie .. and that opening montage is the BEST not only for halloween but IMO any film it is soo perfect for building up that creepy Midwest autumn feeling but at the same time makes me wish I could be in a place like that for autumn
Best opening ever. I live in rural central IL and it looks that right now. It is haunting and serene at the same time
Agreed
You guys are over doing it
@@jada8047 nope, not even a little. You just don’t understand it
The ending in Halloween 4 with Jamie is still one of the more shocking endings in horror.
Same here. That ending with Jamie holding the knife, I was like HOLY SHIT.
It's not on the level of the Sleepaway Camp ending...but it's pretty good
@@TheAmazingAdam scissors not knife
@@TheAmazingAdam Scissors! It's in the thumbnail for christ sakes.
Such a great ending and I love how Loomis was so ready to shoot Jamie. 🔫
I swear to god John Carpenter came outta the womb lookin like he was 60 years old 😳😳😳
If people were upset about no Michael in Halloween 3 wait until they see Halloween Ends 😂
He's there, just not much
🤣 Good one
@@freestardeath Thank you
Hahaha!! THANK YOU! I was absolutely thinking the same thing. I mean, hell, after H2018 and Kills, what the hell happened to Ends???
Ends had Myers and technically, so did Halloween 3. If you watch the bar scene close to the beginning of the film, the trailer of the original film was seen on the TV. Jamie Lee Curtis was also the voice of the operator on the phone and also the loudspeaker in the town, so she also had a cameo in the film.
I love Halloween 4. It truly is darker, colder, and authentically autumnal (like the director and screenwriter, I, too, am from Cleveland). It really is a movie of the season. I also like the mask - not more or in place of the original, but in the context of the film, as a something Michael shoplifts out of a store. When the town loses power, and even just before, the dark night with the streetlamps and moonlight reflecting off the even-more-featureless white mask really gave me the creeps when I first watched the movie, even in a way the original hadn't. I'm mixed on the ending. On one hand, it's cool, on the other, I would've preferred the franchise just end after the spectacular road chase and shootout. "Michael Myers is in hell, where he belongs." Indeed.
I absolutely adore this movie. It’s my second favourite story.
As an 80's horror teen, I concur. Great addition, and Danielle is terrific!
You are kinda biased though.
It's the best of the sequels
@@starwarsroo2448 nah 2 is the best sequel. Still keeps the creepiness but to each their own :)
@@MrJohnlennon007 nah
My favorite Halloween film next to the original. Imagine if they got to replicate the original mask in this movie. That would've been so awesome!
As long as they're retconing entire timelines in the franchise, they could start where 4 left off and bring back Rachel and Jamie-Lloyd in current times.
I'd be open to that.
Yes we need a direct sequel to h4 a true sequel
This is by far the best sequel in the franchise. When Loomis and the others begin to take notice of the other "Michaels" in the background is a brilliant moment. I remember people in the theater freaking out at that scene back in the day.
Part 2 (81) is a much better movie than H4. It has suspense rivaling that of original. H4 is a pale, updated version of the original, without the atmosphere and suspense. With a silly looking shape to boot.
I love this one because everything about it feels like the Halloween holiday, I have it playing in the background on my TV all throughout October while I look at my phone or laptop
I love this Halloween movie, It's my 2nd favorite to watch after the Original.
This is one of my favorite Halloween sequels.
I view H4 as a reboot in some ways, done right. You have new, very likable characters, a return to form with the reentry of the iconic villain, and a palpable respect for what came before.
Such a "palpable" respect that they bring back the guy who had BOTH of his eyeballs shot out, was blown up and completely ingulfed in flames. But somehow in a decade that normal guy grew back both eyes, got his vision back and his burns were limited to tiny scars on his hands and Loomis had constantly changing makeup on his face.
This is by far my favorite Halloween movie
My favorite sequel. They NAILED the shape. You can say whatever about the mask(it's not a custom mask, he takes it off the shelf, it's believable) & what about how he moves?(he's been strapped to a bed for ten years, his muscles are a little stiff and his nerves were shot after burning alive)- it just fits, and is so eerie and menacing. He is calculating and ruthless shutting down the cities power and annihilating the police force. Halloween4 is a Top tier movie-and don't forget the ending, no matter how hard you fight evil it finds another shape and the little girl people died protecting just so happens to take his place to everyones dismay..the best endings in horror are the hopeless ones! (the thing, invasion of the body snatchers, halloween1978-breathing because he's still out there, etc.) Not to mention the ambiance with the purposeful use of orange headlights to coordinate with dark blue shadows, the smoke in the streets and all the scenes nobody talks about with the shape in the background shadows(look carefully!)
I agree his movements are realistic but damn though he looks like a freaking hunchback with physical deformities. The hockey pads they made Wilber wear (or whoever was the Shape) are just goofy looking
@@amancanbeavictimtoo7994 I just think he'd almost be slightly deformed after being strapped to a table for 10 years like an animal in a cage too small for too long
Thank you so much for uploading this! This was literally where my mind went immediately when I saw this movie. If they wanted to pass the torch to a new villain, then Danielle Harris could have gone under the mask. They pick up where the story left off back in 1988. And she was a beloved character the fans loved, it's why Halloween 6 is so controversial.
And it would have been unexplored territory because a female is never the villain. And this was her daughter. Like you could easily do a trilogy off of Jamie Lloyd. And it gives you a few years until you reboot it and do something else.
But this was Friday the 13th A New Beginning (1985). That's what they gave us, with a love story. Romance never happens in a horror film. And then the new villain dies in the end, so I don't get the whole point of this?? The main characters (Laurie and Michael) are hardly in the movie, they make this the Cory Cunningham Halloween (2022), and then the star dies, so we spent so much time on a dead end because... Why?
Someone should do a deep fake of Halloween 4, to have the mask from either 1 or 2!
I think it would probably be the best Halloween with the OG mask
Yes they should even in school Scene were Myers throws dr.loomis Out the window you can See He has blonde hair ,WHO knows its the Return of Ben tramer hehe lol ...😁
Fun Fact the niece is the woman who plays the antagonist in the Hatchett series
Saw it opening night. Had such a blast
I've seen this movie more than almost any other movie in my life ever since a week before the date in the movie October 31st 1988. I was just 8 years old and it was the greatest time for horror movies. This remains still to this day one of my favorites and greatest movie experiences ever.
88 was a great year you must be born in 1980 like me
I like how there’s kind of some aspects of Halloween 4 in Halloween ends. With Jamie and Corey both being tainted by Michael’s evil.
there are no aspects of Halloween 4 in Ends...None of the sequels exist, there is no "evil" passed onto Corey or Laurie. the town bullies Laurie because they blame her, they bully Corey because of the accident until he breaks and decides he wants to get revenge for himself and for Alyson.....At no point is Laurie ever "evil", see sees what Corey is....
Halloween Ends is also god awful garbage trash...Its a Michael Myers movie that has not much of anything to do with Michael Myers despite being the 4th movie in what people keep droning a trilogy.....Instead they made Corey & Laurie A Halloween Love Story afterschool special about bullying.....None of it matters, none of its coming back when another movie gets made, IF another movie gets made with how much the people who matter hate Ends....Its not setting anything up, nothing in it will be cannon in future movies.
@@lutherheggs451
Halloween Ends is legitimately better and more interesting than most of the Halloween sequels, which are largely god awful trash.
@@BareBandSubscription no it is not, worst Halloween movie ever
@@simeontong33
So what are Halloween 5, 6, and Resurrection? Are those good movies?
@@BareBandSubscription they’re better then Halloween ends
The house used in the movie is still in salt lake. It’s surreal to see it in person after watching the film. There’s tons of other shooting sites in Utah too. If you live in UT, I definitely recommend checking it out
This is my fave sequel in entire franchise by far. I get more enjoyment out of watching this than I do the 78’ original these days. Bad mask/ pink mask aside. This have perfect mix of horror/ action etc. I feel this is a blue print for horror sequels
I thought 78 one was little boring in the middle a little
@@jada8047 that’s because you’re an idiot
One of the better sequel's in the franchise and the twist ending at the end amazing to bad Halloween 5 messed it all up
@BK Beatty but Halloween 5 made things worse introducing the man in black which was added last minute Making jamie mute not evil killing off Rachel 20 minute into the movie replacing her with Tina Making Loomis crazy the movie just didn't work
@BK Beatty Thorn cult just didn't work for me someone controlling Michael Myers also the Theatrical version it show Michael wasn't with the cult and killed them for what reason
Halloween 5 ending was terrible
This was a great addition to the series. It definitely should gone forth with Jaime at the end of the flick. This, showing that the trauma and madness passes on to her and she will assume the mantle.
I also was hoping you’d mention the intro to the film. I loved the movie intro and it for sure gave me small town Halloween vibes.
Love this film, This is Kills with a worse myers mask and NO cringe dialogue. Love how the MOB is here compared to Kills❕
My favorite scene is Halloween 5 when Michael steals a casket of a 9 year old. Dr Loomis asked Jaime, what do think he's going to do with that. Classic
Damn good sequel considering John Carpenter and Debra Hill weren't involved; but the mask.....THAT MASK IS FREAKING RIDICULOUS !!!
Do a wtf happen to Halloween ends.
It literally just came out, chill
Loving all the Halloween content this time of year. I also dropped my Halloween 4 review this week. Keep up the work man very inspiring
Most people who don't ' like ' part 4 are whining and wetting their diapers over how his mask looks....
Can’t wait for wtf happened to Halloween Ends? I think that movie deserves a video more than any other.
Love the work you do! Keep it up!
Great content sir..your channel always has super interesting videos..I'm sure everyone here agrees that the history of the horror genre is just fascinating and you deliver..thanks for all the hard work..
That opening is so eerie, calm, and great foreshadowing to Michael's return. What a great new movie to be excited about after Part III. Perfect.
Best all time horror sequel imo. Certainly the best sequel in the Halloween franchise. Always loved it and that opening sequence is amazing. 5 ruined everything though.
If they didn’t kill Rachel right off the bat it would have been a much, much better film.
@@drewmcgill5290 they should do a direct sequel with Danielle Harris as Jaimie Lloyd again being older now and bring back Rachel. God I hope it happens Danielle Harris deserves it so much.
Aliens is the best all time Horror sequel
5 was just a disaster. Even 6 was better because it tried something wild and unique. 5 was just boring and silly.
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 The ending of part 5 was the scariest because it was so bad..
The final minutes of this video garnered some more appreciation for the movie out of me. I like how the reasons are listed off for why things happened and what those actions led to. When watching the movie it’s easy to ignore what’s going on in relation to what will happen. Reminds me of how in video games a mission has objectives that have real consequences in the story but in the moment you don’t really have awareness to it, you’re just completing a mission.
I love H4! To date it has the smartest horror characters, the cops actually listen to Loomis and end up calling the national guard once they realize Michael is too much to handle
Great Insight on a great sequel very well done I love this video
All of these movies are just a season mandatory watch. The Timeless effect they've had on its audience even the horrible films are still classic
H4 was amazing. H5 and 6 were abysmal. Kinda like Halloween 2018 and Kills/Ends.
Halloween 4 and 5 was awesome. Loved those films even if they get hated on. Still better than Halloween ends
@Mariana D'Amelio glad I’m not the only one lol
@Mariana D'Amelio h20 had a better conclusion than ends
You think Halloween 5 is better than Ends? Really?
@@BareBandSubscription yes
@@Zero-xl2ef
Can’t get with you on that, chief. Halloween 5 is pure turd.
Great video. Was very easy to follow and understand. Subscribing now and going to watch the other videos you have.
Still hoping for a WTF Happened To This Horror Movie episode for the original Child's Play and a Black Sheep episode for Cult Of Chucky
Amazing sequel I’d say!!! Really in its own lane very well done
The background music is too loud and distracting.
This was my first ever experience of the Halloween franchise
Ohhhhhh the good times
Listening to this without watching it with my eyes and it keeps sounding like you’re explaining the plot for the first reboot movie.
I’m a new sub and you probably get this all the time but I hear a little Norm Mc Donald in your voice. Love the video btw. Keep up the great content! 🎃
Halloween 3 was dope! People don't know what they were missing with the potential of an anthology. Would of been so cool to see the potential stories told.
100% agree!
Their biggest mistake was bringing Michael back. The Fog should’ve been Halloween II
@@NickNutjob Michael could still have come back had they done that. 2 would be the Fog. 3 would be season of the witch. 4 would be The Return Of Michael Myers.
Agreed, it's a perfect Halloween movie.
@@NickNutjob The Fog set on Halloween would have been sweet.
This was the best sequel in the franchise after Halloween 2
Awesome video! Makes me appreciate this movie ten times more. Definitely needs a rewatch.
Thank you!
I know George Wilbur who play Michael Myers in Halloween 🎃 4 he is my uncle and it's the truth. 😀👍🎃
Halloween 2 is my favorite sequel, taking it to an enclosed hospital on the same exact night was beautiful to me
Great video. Very informative
Easily one of the best sequels in the series!
Halloween 4 is a great, great movie!!!
I'll never get over just how ridiculous the shape looks in this movie. The puffy padded suit and that HORRIBLE mask.. but 4 is still one of my all time favorites
Good upload mate
The fact that frigging Bobby Brady was greenkeeper on H4 BLOWS MY MIND
THIS I Y I LOVE JO BLOW HORROR!!!
GOTTDAMN THATS COOL
I WANT TO REVISIT THIS MOVIE
Great video as always! However, one error: at around 08:31, the narrator mentions Moustapha Akkad working with Anthony Quinn in LION OF THE DESERT (1980). However, the image shown in this video is of their previous collaboration in 1976's THE MESSAGE. You might want to find an appropriate image from the latter film and repost...
Hey Jo blo great video dude, what's the background music in the last 2 minutes of the video please dude?
Definitely one of my favorite Halloween sequels. Loomis was incredible & I love the Jamie & Rachel chemistry. Wish they'd stuck with this ending & turned Jamie into the focus of part 5. You still could have involved Michael in a smaller role but passed the torch.
This is nothing new than from.wat has been explained. But i still love hearing bout this. Awesome work
Much appreciated!
This really did turn out to be a great film. I think part 2 is my favorite so I always found it weird he came back as we watched his head burn to ash at the end of 2 but if it makes another fun movie. Why not. I'd love a sequel to Season of the Witch now.
2, 3 and 1 are my top 3
My favorite Halloween as a kid.
Michael wearing the rock star clothes and joyriding his porche would of been so bad it would of actually been great lol lol
My favorite non-JLC Halloween movie. I watch it every year.
I really love this sequel, it did so many things right. And That opening was great.
RIP Ted Hollister. 🪦
I saw this movie easily 20 times. I always wondered wtf he looked like a bleached blonde in the school ! SUBBED !! Thank you!! You also sound a bit like Norm Macdonald ! Not a bad thing!!!🤟🏻🤘🏻👍🤜🏻🤛🏻💯
I would love to see them make a Halloween movie where they depict Michael Myers as an anti-hero.
WOW I didn't know Mike Lookinland (Bobby Brady) was in charge of all the halloween decorations and leaves in Halloween 4
An unusual speech pace and inflection here, half sentence at a time
Love this. I am enjoying the Michael Myers franchise. Also the fan films!! Glad they didn't let him die! Even if I think him bloody evil!! Michael Myers lives on!! 😮😮😅😅
This is one of my favorites
The more I go back and watch 4 the more I appreciate it. Unfortunately 5 then made a mess of all of it.
Aside from "season of the witch", this is my favourite sequel. I love H2, but H4 has always been preferred.
H5 was a disappointment but isn't too bad.
This is Thee best movie in the franchise. I literally seen H4 hundreds of times. Just watched it this morning!
21:02 mountains in the back ground of Illinois? They always screw up the outside scenery of Halloween. The first one had dead leaves all over the ground blowing around, and then u would see a shot of the trees and they would be green with all their leaves.
Halloween 4 wasn't a killer like the OG Halloween movies because it was competing with the Jason and Freddy movies in the late 80s. It stuck out like a sore thumb, but it's a guilty pleasure.
I enjoy Halloween 4 especially that ending.
The brother/sister angle was great. They should have just did H5 the way they were going to originally with Jamie becoming the new Michael
Thanks 😀
This one is one of the best in my opinion
Still the best sequel after all these years. While the original is the best in suspense and atmosphere, I think H4 has the best characters.
To Halloween 3 ties in perfectly for me
As in Halloween the first film you will see Michael as a kid wearing exactly one of the masks what was being made in Halloween 3
That mask is so timid looking..Like Michael Jackson..sort of...
Easily the best of the sequels imho.
Had they just ended the SOTW with a box of masks making its way to a store and showing the clown mask Meyers puts on as a kid would’ve explained the supernatural evil he had in him.
I love the beginning credits of the movie