WTF Happened to Freddy vs Jason?

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  • čas přidán 16. 09. 2020
  • FREDDY VS. JASON was a mash-up of genre icons that fans had been hearing about for since the mid-1980s, but the film didn't hit the big screen until 2003. In the latest episode of WTF HAPPENED TO THIS HORROR MOVIE, we claw and machete deep into the years the project spent in development hell. Tap the video and find out exactly why it took so long for Freddy and Jason to go mano et mano on the big screen
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Komentáře • 907

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 3 lety +817

    That look that Freddy had on his face when he was brought into the real world and he sees Jason Voorhees is classic.

    • @schiffertistvan6881
      @schiffertistvan6881 Před 3 lety +41

      When he realizes, that he must fight Jason, but on equel turns and he gets his clawed hand before his mouth, he know it's gonna be a hell of a ride!

    • @TheArtistV1
      @TheArtistV1 Před 3 lety +60

      Try being in a packed theater on opening night when that look happened and Jason then flips that table,and the whole crowd knows Shit is about to get real!!!

    • @emartin86
      @emartin86 Před 3 lety +25

      @@TheArtistV1 I was fortunate enough to see it on the big screen, on opening night. It was an incredible experience. I was 17 years old at the time, Lol.

    • @419buckeye7
      @419buckeye7 Před 3 lety +11

      @@emartin86 they threatened to cut the movie off people were fighting and shit

    • @emartin86
      @emartin86 Před 3 lety +13

      @@419buckeye7 Whoa! For real!?... Thats crazy man! Lol!... Everyone at my theatre seemed to be in a great mood. Some people were cheering on Freddy. Other ppl were cheering on Jason. Lots of ppl were cheering on both. But, there were no fights or anything... I was 17 years old at the time, and my brother got his hands on some cocaine, Lol... I had never done any coke before, at the time. So we ended up doing some, and then headed to the theatre, to watch Freddy Vs Jason, all coked out, Lol. It was quite the experience... The Coke was a bit much though, Lol. I haven’t done it many times, after that experience. I find that it makes time go by way too quickly when your on it, Lol. And I feel too sketched out when I do it.

  • @L_E_L_0_U_P
    @L_E_L_0_U_P Před 3 lety +87

    That glove grabbing Jason's mask has been engrained in my subconscious for 30 years lol.

  • @diogogomes3238
    @diogogomes3238 Před 3 lety +695

    i have no shame in admiting that i love freddy vs jason. Yes could have been better , by a mile , but hey for what we got im happy. Was a fun ride

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah could have been wayyyyyyyyy better ugh

    • @zacky4204
      @zacky4204 Před 3 lety +13

      Freddy should of got some kills in the movie it would of been interesting watching powerful Freddy vs Jason x

    • @willykins348
      @willykins348 Před 3 lety +4

      It’s my favourite horror movie even though I prefer Jason then any of horror character

    • @Jason918114
      @Jason918114 Před 3 lety +1

      @Trump4Prison2021 Is that a shot against the costume designers or poor people, because it sure seems like the latter.

    • @Jason918114
      @Jason918114 Před 3 lety +5

      Considering how stupid Nightmare on Elm Street movies are, this is definitely one of the best Freddie movies.

  • @kbutta01
    @kbutta01 Před 3 lety +556

    I don’t care what anyone thinks. I loved this movie. IMO it’s easily one of the best crossover movies to date.

  • @rozalin-jc9dq
    @rozalin-jc9dq Před 3 lety +211

    I've always said this movie has no business being as good as it is, and after watching this, it had every reason in the world to be a colossal failure. Yet somehow, it turned out amazing.

    • @gibberconfirm166
      @gibberconfirm166 Před rokem +5

      Honestly he's going through every discarded script (even by talented people like the Star Trek: TNG guys) and they're bad or fucking something up. The final movie makes no obvious blunders, and in this genre of absolute lore trainwrecks, maybe that's something like genius? They're both in hell (sure!), Freddy is cunning enough to break out (that sounds like him,) Jason's actual physical body emerges from hell (best compromise if you care about continuity, even casually? Yes), etc.

    • @aydentolive71
      @aydentolive71 Před rokem +7

      @Sub if you are against antifa and BLM worst part was saying jason was scared of water

  • @cinemasnitch3959
    @cinemasnitch3959 Před 3 lety +450

    I LOVE this movie. Freddys last wink when hes just a severed head is classic.

    • @LegendoftheAce1
      @LegendoftheAce1 Před 3 lety +18

      the whole corn field part is awesome. The flaming machete, Freedy angry over Jason stealing a kill, and the that is 1 pissed off goalie line

    • @michellea221
      @michellea221 Před 3 lety +2

      I was mad

    • @HonkyTonkManYeah
      @HonkyTonkManYeah Před 3 lety +1

      Fuck shouldnt have read the comments

    • @JJkidstv1
      @JJkidstv1 Před 3 lety

      Same

    • @iisharkyii9492
      @iisharkyii9492 Před 2 lety +2

      @@JJkidstv1 they should have done micheal vs Jason

  • @TrainedOldSkool
    @TrainedOldSkool Před 3 lety +58

    I was at a Friday the 13th panel at San Diego Comic Con around 2004 and during the Q & A somebody asked Kane Hodder why he wasn't in Freddy vs Jason and he said he was replaced because the studio wanted Jason to have sympathetic eyes behind the mask which he thought was so stupid since Jason is a serial killer.

    • @TheMulToyVerse
      @TheMulToyVerse Před 2 lety +11

      I get both sides though… well, ~I~ get why Jason could be sympathetic. I can’t speak for the reasons a studio would think he should be sympathetic…
      Freddy was a child murderer in life and a killer of upper-teens/20-somethings in death. Creep factor off the charts and no redeeming qualities; exactly what you’d want in an unrepentant villain
      Jason on the other hand was the victim of neglectful counselors and terrible malicious children/fellow campers
      Should they have known for sure that Jason couldn’t swim? Probably…
      Was it an intentional murder by the other campers? I still doubt it was intentional; the other kids might have assumed that the counselors would be quick to react and save Jason, making it a super cruel prank but nothing more… but things didn’t go that way; those other kids effectively murdered a disabled kid.
      So with Jason you have a child that was innocent of any wrongdoing, who is/was/always has been shown to love and listen to his mother (a giant mamma’s boy for better or worse)
      Even Pamela trying to prevent Camp Crystal Lake from reopening by killing counselors and making the site completely unusable due to its stigma could be seen as a noble cause fueled by grief and pain.
      She felt that reopening the camp grounds was a slap in the face to her dead son that diminished his memory ~and~ that by keeping it closed would prevent anything similar from happening to some other kid.
      I know that Jason has killed a *TON* of people, but among them are:
      1) the girl that killed his mother, who was only thinking of her beloved son when ~she~ was the OG killer (avenged his slain mother)
      2) camp counselors that more times than not are in the middle of doing similar things that ~his~ counselors were doing when he drowned (fooling around with each other, doing drugs or drinking)
      3) a would-be rapist in part 8 who drugged a woman and was pinning her down
      Jason also has redeeming qualities that any mother would be proud of:
      1) he’s saved a woman who was drugged against her will from getting raped in Part 8 by killing her assaulter so she could get away
      2) he realized (maybe) that he was wrong to destroy the teens’ boombox in Part 8 and instead of killing them for getting mad at him, he chose to intimidate them so they’d step down, therefore de-escalating a situation that he himself initiated (that’s how I choose to see it anyway, hahaha)
      3) he’s never hurt an animal that I can recall as he believes they are innocent creatures (according to Kane Hodder)
      Basically he’s a religious superhero that maybe goes just a *~smidge~* too far #OldTestament
      I know 100% that he isn’t, but it’s fun to spin him as such by cherry-picking his past actions against those that were misbehaving 😅😛😜 … he’s also killed a ton of innocent people and would-be good samaritans that were trying to protect those that he was tying to kill…
      Even in the final fight against Freddy, Jason inadvertently/unintentionally saves his “friends” by impaling Freddy with his own gloved hand. If Jason hadn’t acted when he did, those innocent teens would’ve been slashed to death by a machete-wielding maniac! 😲
      Besides, it’s somewhat easy to avoid death at the hands of Jason…
      Ways to (usually/sometimes) survive Jason:
      • Don’t do drugs
      • Don’t drink alcohol
      • Don’t have premarital sex
      • Don’t be a camp counselor
      • Don’t resurrect him in the first place
      • Don’t desecrate his grave
      • Don’t try to stop him/get in his way
      • Don’t try to hurt an innocent person in front of him (would-be rapist in Part 8)
      Ways to (maybe?!?) survive Freddy:
      • Don’t sleep… ever…
      • Don’t invoke his name (gives him power)

    • @TheDamianvain17
      @TheDamianvain17 Před rokem +1

      Thank you for that clarification. I've wondered about that for years.

  • @lopirobinson1991
    @lopirobinson1991 Před rokem +28

    Freddy's glove looked the coolest in this film. It had a weight to it that made it more threatening. It's actually a great weapon from a tactical standpoint, hard to knock out of the hand, great control (it being part of the body, basically an extension).

    • @TheBreezle
      @TheBreezle Před 10 měsíci +1

      I hear you, but think about the driving force and results of initial impact when using most weapons. The only thing you’d be able to do with his glove is a slash, and probably not a deep one either. Depends on how strong the eyelets for the fingers are and it would help if there was a piece of reinforcement running across the palm.

  • @whogotbarslikethese7563
    @whogotbarslikethese7563 Před 2 lety +15

    Freddy vs Jason is a fantastic crossover movie. The plot made perfect sense, the fight was awesome, the ending was perfect. Are there cheesy elements absolutely but find me one of either of these franchise movies that aren't a little cheesy.

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 Před rokem

      The movie had no right being good in the first place. And then it went ahead and started punching well above its weight class. Such an unexpected gem of a crossover film

  • @cannon26ify
    @cannon26ify Před 2 lety +112

    I love the fact that there is never an explanation for how jason walked from crystal lake in Jersey to Ohio to kill some teens.

    • @malcolmbclough6142
      @malcolmbclough6142 Před rokem +18

      I thought it was explained that, while Freddy was in hell… he was able to get into Jason’s dreams to revive him and compelled him to go to Springwood and kill… which would naturally cause the town to assume it was Freddy which would allow him to regain his strength from their fear!

    • @songokulul
      @songokulul Před rokem +10

      He hitch hiked

    • @that0neni99a
      @that0neni99a Před rokem +1

      LMAO😂

    • @davidkight6601
      @davidkight6601 Před rokem +3

      Jason can teleport

    • @barryc629
      @barryc629 Před rokem +1

      The Jason teleport

  • @mrflipperinvader7922
    @mrflipperinvader7922 Před 3 lety +36

    My favorite bit is when Freddy is in Jason's dreams and is about to drown him in the lake until pur heroine stops and he goes "YYYOOOOU!", then the whole movie goes red tinted and Freddy turns into this hellish goblin demon looking thing

    • @Anw4rr10r
      @Anw4rr10r Před 3 lety +2

      I always wondered why he looked different in that scene. Why was that? Does anybody know?

    • @TheRealDillPickles
      @TheRealDillPickles Před 3 lety +2

      @@Anw4rr10r he was taking on one of his devilish forms in his dream world she took him to one if his highest levels of pisstivity lol

  • @Runforestrun
    @Runforestrun Před 3 lety +74

    I was in middle school when the rumors of a Freddy vs Jason movie first started. I was friggin 25 years old by the time the movie actually hit theaters. I always wondered why the hell did it take so long to make this movie into a reality.

    • @abnormalparanormal4387
      @abnormalparanormal4387 Před rokem +2

      Licensing issues

    • @PrinceIsot
      @PrinceIsot Před rokem +2

      Hard to think of a movie that might have a similar timeline for someone right now. Maybe the Crow remake they've been trying for about 10 years

    • @johnpaulgonzalez9016
      @johnpaulgonzalez9016 Před rokem +4

      Reason why it bombed. The target audience outgrew it. If it was released during your time, it might've been the best horror crossover ever.

    • @LScentral
      @LScentral Před 10 měsíci +1

      It’s not even hard to right a good story with the two

    • @joshmitchell9138
      @joshmitchell9138 Před 8 měsíci

      @@johnpaulgonzalez9016This movie did not bomb.

  • @Atem_in_the_streets
    @Atem_in_the_streets Před 3 lety +74

    Not gonna lie...I dig the movie alot. my only complaint is they didn't get Kane Hodder to play Jason. That would have made my horror movie dreams come true.

    • @DanielLopez-214
      @DanielLopez-214 Před 2 lety +1

      TRUE !

    • @williamthompson5504
      @williamthompson5504 Před 2 lety +5

      Kane should have been there. He is Jason!

    • @patrickperalta59
      @patrickperalta59 Před rokem +4

      @@williamthompson5504 blame the director he replaced Kane Hodder...with the actor who was in the Diner scene in part 8....who Jason tossed into the mirror. I hate that director. it would have been cool to see Kane Hodder as Jason vs Robert England as Freddy...................Kane Hodder I hear was disappointed he didn't get to play Jason in this movie.

    • @johnhenningfield4360
      @johnhenningfield4360 Před rokem

      Apparently they removed Kane Hodder as Jason cause they felt he had too much creative control playing the character and they wanted to get rid of that on purpose, the director felt he shouldn't listen to Jason tell him how to make his movie with the character

  • @thewickedwanderer
    @thewickedwanderer Před 3 lety +96

    Despite the flaws the movie has I still like it. I do wish they made “Freddy vs Jason vs Ash”. I really like that comic, but still that would’ve been cool. Hah.

    • @LucyLioness100
      @LucyLioness100 Před 3 lety +10

      Too bad it likely won’t happen since Bruce Campbell has retired Ash

    • @thewickedwanderer
      @thewickedwanderer Před 3 lety +6

      Alyssa Black yea I know. When the show was done, he was done. Which I kinda respect but also am saddened by.

    • @ajscrewu
      @ajscrewu Před 3 lety +2

      Only hope would be for it to be animated

    • @BrokenGodEnt
      @BrokenGodEnt Před 3 lety +2

      @@LucyLioness100 I think if it becomes a serious thing Bruce would return. We've seen tons of horror icons return when they said they wouldn't.

    • @itslouiemoo8018
      @itslouiemoo8018 Před 3 lety

      That comic was really good. Especially with Freddy going after the Necronomicon.

  • @WraithTDK
    @WraithTDK Před rokem +44

    I like the idea that Freddy was secretly the one who drowned Jason to cover up what he'd done to him. That Jason was Freddy's first victim. I like the idea that it connects the two, and it adds a new layer to the lore of both. Even adds something to the first Friday movie, as it turns out that it wasn't just careless counselors after all.

    • @williamkelly5689
      @williamkelly5689 Před rokem +6

      Agree

    • @jokersad9387
      @jokersad9387 Před rokem

      Yeah um idk about Jason getting fucked by Freddy is a good idea for both characters

    • @WraithTDK
      @WraithTDK Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@GlitchyHalo "what's in the movie" was NOT necessarily that he's only a murderer. "What's in the movie" is that his murder was the only thing they ever definitively DISCOVERED. There's absolutely nothing that says or even IMPLIES anything that would preclude him from doing all sorts of horrible things that people just weren't privy to, or that they simply never showed us.

  • @bestboutgaming3212
    @bestboutgaming3212 Před 3 lety +20

    There's many industry stories where the best script wasn't the one that made it to film, Freddy vs. Jason isn't one of those examples. A few issues aside it's the best rendition people could have hoped for.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +4

      I don't understand, what was so hard to make this film. The hard part should be getting the rights and that was already taken cared of at the point. Counting all the attempts, it took 16 years that New Line hired a bunch of dumbasses. Watch the films and you make a film with the two of them in one. It's not that difficult. It's a easy task and for some reason, this is the hardest task ever. (Even the 2003 movie.) And I don't know how it was so hard to make it happen.

  • @dustyshoopman845
    @dustyshoopman845 Před rokem +14

    As a child of the late 80's and 90's I grew up dreaming of this movie. My older brother and I went and saw it the day after it came out. Sadly nobody in my area was as excited to see this as we were. Literally nobody was there for this movie. The entire theater had me my brother in the dead center seats, and 2 other people sitting way up front that it no one else. The usher checked on us once he saw only 4 people and didn't bother coming back. We got so ripped while watching it was the best theater experience ever.

    • @Ian_Faulkner
      @Ian_Faulkner Před rokem

      When I went to the cinema to watch Freddy's dead... I went alone and, I was the only person in the cinema! I'm surprised they didn't just give me my money back and cancel the showing! The usher came in 2 or 3 times during the film... just to check i was OK... lol 😆 🤣 😂 it was a pretty weird feeling having the entire cinema to myself but, it did mean I could sit in the V.I.P seats which I hadn't paid for.

  • @ROMANEMPIRE69
    @ROMANEMPIRE69 Před 3 lety +73

    It would have been nice to see an after math. But my conclusion is that Jason kept Freddie’s head in a new shrine as his greatest battle. When Freddy is narrating the story in the beginning he is just a head in Jason’s new shrine ....maybe back in hell. 😜

    • @ryanjavierortega8513
      @ryanjavierortega8513 Před 3 lety +2

      Like Sunset Boulevard, narrated by a dead man?

    • @waxuugorefan
      @waxuugorefan Před 2 lety +5

      he put freddys head next to his momma head 😂😂 (4 real read the comic of the second fight)

  • @DrJohnAZoidberg
    @DrJohnAZoidberg Před 3 lety +13

    This movie was awesome. It had scary and funny scenes, the fight was pretty cool. I still watch it every now and then

  • @Lambdin22
    @Lambdin22 Před 3 lety +8

    When this movie came out, I was 17 and it was great. I saw it twice in theaters and absolutely loved it each time. I wouldn't imagine it's aged well though, I remember the iffy CGI even back then. Still a fun ride.

  • @NivlekM1
    @NivlekM1 Před 3 lety +15

    The conflict between Jason and Freddy is pretty simple, I think it was the best way of pitting them against each other. The problem of the film is the characters revolving these icons, they’re so dull.

    • @anonamatron
      @anonamatron Před 2 lety +4

      I don't know if they should even bother with "victim" characters in a movie like this. I mean they definitely need some kills, but maybe those are just random people in the background, not important characters. The conflict is villain vs. villain, not good vs. evil.

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 Před rokem

      @@anonamatron Maybe would have been better treating the two killers like a force of nature and police are more interested in getting innocents out of the way. Should have focused on a small town of police rather than the usual teenagers getting massacred. Not sure. An entire movie focused on two villains as the main plot is always going to have trouble making the other characters matter. Still loved this movie

  • @monteestowes1245
    @monteestowes1245 Před 3 lety +40

    I just read "Slash of the Titans" by Dustin McNeill that discusses the history of this film. It includes interviews with the screenwriters discussing how they came to be involved and what their scripts involved. It's such a GREAT book.
    I'm happy you guys mention it in this video!

  • @ralphramirez917
    @ralphramirez917 Před 3 lety +39

    Should have been Kane Hodder as Jason

    • @michellea221
      @michellea221 Před 3 lety +6

      I know right he was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than kirizinger whos acting was pretty stiff

    • @BabysitterSky
      @BabysitterSky Před 3 lety +6

      @@michellea221 Wasn't Ken's fault. Director wanted him to move really slowly with sudden fast spikes. He thought it'd make him scarier.
      Should have been Kane though.

    • @glennstewart-wrestlinggoat
      @glennstewart-wrestlinggoat Před 3 lety +4

      @@BabysitterSky always wanted him to be Jason again

    • @toad6565
      @toad6565 Před 3 lety +1

      Kevin Strom In this movie he acts more like Michael Myers than Jason.

    • @BabysitterSky
      @BabysitterSky Před 3 lety +1

      @@toad6565 Lol you're not wrong.

  • @tnargtnarud
    @tnargtnarud Před 3 lety +4

    What I was most surprised was the fight choreography. Freddy really busting out his martial arts was something I never thought I needed.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 3 lety +80

    Actually this movie wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. And the fight scene at the end reminded me a lot of Frankenstein meets The Wolfman.

    • @thesupervisor3270
      @thesupervisor3270 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s not that bad but if Kane Hodder played Jason I’ll probably like it better

    • @JoakimOtamaa
      @JoakimOtamaa Před 3 lety +1

      I'm so tired of these Versus things ending up in a water and calling it a tie. Someone should win.

    • @nahtesalinas1917
      @nahtesalinas1917 Před 2 lety

      It's a fun movie.

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager Před 3 lety +27

    Jason X gets too much hate. It's a straight up dark comedy and it has some genuinely hilarious laughs in it.
    The holodeck campers remain one of my favorite movie gags ever.

    • @ojmcclanahan689
      @ojmcclanahan689 Před 2 lety +1

      That's the problem with Jason X and Freddy vs Jason. They're dark comedies and that's not what either franchise was before... Jason X is still better than Freddy vs Jason though. That's the worst piece of cinematic shit ever created.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ojmcclanahan689 Up high 👏

    • @ojmcclanahan689
      @ojmcclanahan689 Před 2 lety

      @@brandonspain12345 Doubles, brother! 🙌

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 Před rokem +2

      I like to think in the holodeck camper scene, Jason knows that they're fake he just knows he won't get a second opportunity to have fun like that and goes full ham. Probably not, but it still kills me to think what was going through his head "no, you know what? You deserve this Jason. You deserve to be spoiled once in a while" turns around and starts slamming them into trees

  • @Bozar069
    @Bozar069 Před 3 lety +5

    That boxing match in hell sounds pretty badass.

  • @VenomTeen722
    @VenomTeen722 Před 3 lety +17

    When I saw it, I didn't expect a good story. I wanted to see Freddy fight Jason and that's what I got. Love it

  • @TheDiplomat717
    @TheDiplomat717 Před 3 lety +8

    I love how everyone's blood just squirts out of them in this.

    • @charliebowen5071
      @charliebowen5071 Před 3 lety

      It’s a slasher

    • @TheDiplomat717
      @TheDiplomat717 Před 3 lety +3

      @@charliebowen5071 it is! But I'm talking about how the blood has its own sound effect and shoots out like a squirt gun.

    • @charliebowen5071
      @charliebowen5071 Před 3 lety

      @@TheDiplomat717 yes. It's a slasher

    • @TheDiplomat717
      @TheDiplomat717 Před 3 lety +4

      @@charliebowen5071 alright my friend you clearly aren't getting what I am saying about the blood work in this film compared to others.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +1

      That's your concern? I love how everyone flies in the air like the world is made of a giant trampoline. When Jason punched Freddy, it should've gone through his chest like part 6 or his head like part 8's boxing scene. But nope. The movie inhabits a cartoony world. How is the older films from the 80s more realistic than the more modern one?

  • @G-TV_TheOneManArmy
    @G-TV_TheOneManArmy Před 3 lety +22

    Imagine an avengers like slasher movie with the big 4 michael jason leatherface and pinhead or at least a michael vs jason movie

    • @ryanburrell4999
      @ryanburrell4999 Před 3 lety +9

      The big 4 are - Michael, Jason, Leatherface, and Freddy. Not pinhead.

    • @LordofSyn
      @LordofSyn Před 3 lety +7

      @@ryanburrell4999
      Pinhead vs Freddy would be legit. No other Cenobites though.

    • @emartin86
      @emartin86 Před 3 lety +5

      @@ryanburrell4999 I’ve gotta disagree with you on that 1 man... Pinhead puts Leatherface to shame. The first 2 Hellraiser films, are way better, and much more imaginative & clever, than any of the Texas Chainsaw films.

    • @emartin86
      @emartin86 Před 3 lety +3

      My Big 4 would probably have to be: Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, & Ash (If it was a Vs film, than: Ash Vs Freddy, Jason & Pinhead)... Some of my honourable mentions, would be: Captain Spaulding, Chucky, Michael Myers, Candyman, Jack Torrence, Hannibal Lector, BOB (from Twin Peaks), & Pennywise.

    • @ryanburrell4999
      @ryanburrell4999 Před 3 lety +5

      @@emartin86 I can certainly see where you’re coming from with replacing Latherface with Pinhead, I think I’m partial to leatherface because he was the “first horror icon” I guess you could say. And being a huge Halloween fan I’ll always have Michael on my Mount Rushmore. I’ve never really thought about having Ash come up in that conversation so that makes me realize how underrated of a character he is and how underrated Bruce Campbell is as an actor. And great honorable mentions...as long as it’s Tim Currys pennywise lol

  • @themarkiscookin
    @themarkiscookin Před 3 lety +2

    It wouldn't make sense that freddy would be a camp counselor since both freddy and Jason were born in the 40s freddy in 42 and Jason in 46

  • @mikeygraves16
    @mikeygraves16 Před rokem +2

    I remember the whole theater laughing our asses off when Jason throws Kelly Rowland into the tree 😂🤣

  • @ProWrestlingReality
    @ProWrestlingReality Před 3 lety +5

    My view on this was I was born in 1993 and as a kid like many horror fans I remember looking at the covers of horror movies and even remember getting scared just at the thought of how "scary" or "violent" they would be, then later in my life about 2005-2006 I started buying the horror DVDs and watching the movies thinking they were nowhere near as scary as what I imagined they would be but the two movies that stick out to me that really make me think of the way I imagined horror movies growing up it would be the original Texas chainsaw massacre and this movie. It's great!

    • @ScumLxrd1993
      @ScumLxrd1993 Před rokem

      Same, I was born in 1993 as well but sadly wasn’t allowed to go see this in the theaters

  • @ultramag0343
    @ultramag0343 Před 3 lety +4

    My biggest gripe, they should of used Kane Hodder !

  • @boneappletea3858
    @boneappletea3858 Před 3 lety +6

    I heard pinhead was gonna end the movie with all three in hell asking,"So boys, what seems to be the problem?".

    • @MaxDamage13
      @MaxDamage13 Před 3 lety +1

      I would have liked to see.
      Time to Play.

    • @DouglasJohnson.
      @DouglasJohnson. Před 3 lety +2

      Or "I have such sights to show you"

    • @Dru2037
      @Dru2037 Před 3 lety +1

      Clive wouldn't have let that happen.

  • @diontaedaughtry974
    @diontaedaughtry974 Před 3 lety +1

    Great commentary and video 👍👍

  • @saloz9483
    @saloz9483 Před 3 lety +4

    I remember seeing jason goes to hell and the freddys claw popping up and losing my shit. Then nothing happened for a long time and I gave up on the VS movie ever happening. I'm happy to say when I finally went to the theaters to see it I was not disappointed. I did not need deep human characters all I came for in the end was freddy VS jason and this movie delivered. That final battle was just beautiful and should be the benchmark for any horror vs fight. By the way great video. It was interesting to hear what were some of the scripts like and i'm fine with some of them not becoming a thing.

  • @chrisbuckley1785
    @chrisbuckley1785 Před rokem +6

    This is an excellent movie. It would be so easy to mess this up but they gave it the perfect amount of camp and horror. It didn't hurt either of the franchises and actually gave them a nice boost in relevancy. Much better then some of the sequels of the individual franchises that were coming out around the time. Love this movie and both characters.

    • @GlitchyHalo
      @GlitchyHalo Před 10 měsíci

      what I heard is that there was about 10 other scripts before this one and I'm glad the final one is the one we have
      nightmare 13 is one of the most heard ones

  • @TuleeMaster
    @TuleeMaster Před 3 lety

    Just found your channel today, really enjoy the content. Keep it up dude.

  • @TiK2theToK
    @TiK2theToK Před rokem +2

    I remember watching it in theaters and everyone yelling and applauding when freddy finally met jason in the burning cabin. It was like we where watching a real fight in a ring lol.

  • @MutaScale
    @MutaScale Před 3 lety +49

    I pretty much had the same idea of Jason only being "Scared" of water due to Freddy finding out the last time he was scared (When he drowned) in my video of the film. Hell, it was the only time you can use a clip from the shitty 2003 "Daredevil" film to reference something and it fits.
    "How do you kill a man with no fear?" "By putting the fear in him."

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +3

      I always saw Jason's fear being the death of his mother since that was what caused him to kill people to begin with. Freddy could've done what Ginny did in part 2 by disguising himself as Pamela and use Jason's machete and kill the way his mom died.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 3 lety +12

    Took them 20 years to put this movie on the big screen.

  • @bigtommy9715
    @bigtommy9715 Před rokem +2

    The intro with Freddy is incredible
    My only complaint with this movie is the weird thing when they hit eachother and fly 100 feet away

  • @otisdriftwoodd1096
    @otisdriftwoodd1096 Před 3 lety +1

    Always wanted a poster of freddy jumping out of the water on the dock with the red contrast man that's a good looking shot !😎✌️great channel my dude

  • @jmunger63
    @jmunger63 Před 2 lety +3

    Seeing this movie in theaters was some of the most fun I've ever had at the movies.

  • @pendragon3434
    @pendragon3434 Před 2 lety +5

    A younger me was super hyped for this movie it was like a landmark of my life! I can ignore the ridiculous exposition dumps and terrible characters if I get to see my two favorite horror icons duke it out.

  • @TheOdsd1977
    @TheOdsd1977 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember conversations with friends about "Jason vs. Michael Myers."
    We never understood about Freddy.

  • @JustJak
    @JustJak Před 3 lety

    I had no idea you guys had a horror channel as well, loving it!

  • @MrEd8846
    @MrEd8846 Před 3 lety +4

    Hodder talks a lot about the decisions and what happened with him being replaced in his documentary. As for Freddy vs Jason. I know a lot of people that don't like it but i still love it. When I saw the wink I hoped for a sequel.

  • @VFLBeezy
    @VFLBeezy Před 3 lety +3

    "Cramp Crystal Lake" seems fitting lol. Just giving you crap bro, that's a tongue twister lol. Love the videos.

  • @Viravax-144
    @Viravax-144 Před 3 lety +2

    This movie was my introduction to the characters and many other horror movies fallowed. I’ll always have a spot in my heart for this movie.

  • @thomasvontom
    @thomasvontom Před rokem +1

    I'm glad we got the script we did. Clean and simple. Freddy had a legit reason for bringing Jason back. He got jealous and needed to get ride of someone that was in his way and no longer useful.

  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +4

    11:09 Honestly that script by Mark Protosevich wasn't dull. Either you never read the script or just the summary from the Slash of the Titans book. The college kills was only ONE kill and it was in the woods near the college building. The rest of the script actually focused on a girl suffering repressed memories from Freddy and Jason and was more psychological and Jason is more a demon spirit like Never Hike Alone meets Savini Jason. It was Honestly better than what we got because the characters were actually in depth and weren't idiotic stereotypes. The reason why it was scrap was because Cunningham wanted Jason X to be a franchise. Not because it was a dull script. Oh well. Nice video though.

    • @MetaKnight964
      @MetaKnight964 Před rokem +1

      Except Jason isn't a demon spirit. Also Freddy vs Jason was good.

    • @keitrickmiller
      @keitrickmiller Před rokem

      Thank you Brandon, that movie would've been much better, IMO

  • @elmstreetfan1633
    @elmstreetfan1633 Před 3 lety +4

    Big oversight however, Freddy was always meant to win. Extra scenes with Ritter were shot taking over the part. But when tested, everyone hated it. Ive read the decision was ultimately not to piss off either fanbase. Great video guys

    • @mrhumble2937
      @mrhumble2937 Před 2 lety

      At the end Jason won tho, walked out with Freddy's head. I guess Freddy could bite him.

  • @nixondoesit
    @nixondoesit Před 17 dny

    In the movie "National Lampoons Senior Vacation" there's a scene where two of the characters are watching a horror movie and one says to the other something like "what if Jason had nightmares and what if Freddy could invade his nightmares" and then some years later we got Freddy vs Jason. Mad.

  • @yoursafeplace8476
    @yoursafeplace8476 Před rokem +1

    One of the best soundtracks of any movie, ever! I still play the soundtrack to this day!

    • @kcadventures1454
      @kcadventures1454 Před rokem +1

      Right!?! So good! It's how I discovered from autumn to ashes!

  • @rbswords2353
    @rbswords2353 Před 3 lety +6

    I felt one big problem was having Monica Keena as the lead.Katherine Isabelle would've been better.She just fell flat.

    • @jaredwatt9846
      @jaredwatt9846 Před 3 lety +1

      There was nothin flat about monica keena in the movie

    • @rbswords2353
      @rbswords2353 Před 3 lety +1

      @Brandon Brooks
      Well she's a putz,Isabelle's a better actress.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +1

      Fun fact: Katherine was supposed to be casted for Lori but it was the director who wanted somebody else as Lori. Monica Keena said the script was a peice if s*it and only did just for the money and just to get her name out there. And man does it show.

    • @rbswords2353
      @rbswords2353 Před 2 lety +1

      @@brandonspain12345 She's lousy anyway.

  • @heilong79
    @heilong79 Před 3 lety +11

    Freddy vs Jason was great and took elements from the best of each franchise so I loved the film. Also all these pitches for a crossover sound awful.

    • @ojmcclanahan689
      @ojmcclanahan689 Před 2 lety +1

      I think you and I watched different movies, man. I didn't think the director respected either franchise at all. It didn't seem like he knew anything about either one. I think it's the worst movie ever made. I watched it at a midnight showing opening night and I left the cinema with literal tears in my eyes because I was so disgusted with it. I had been waiting for that movie to happen for a full decade and it was just blah. The story was lack luster, if felt like a parody of a Freddy vs Jason movie and the acting was high school drama class level. Robert Englund wasn't even trying, and they royally screwed Kane Hodder. If I could collect every copy of that movie and burn them all, I would.

    • @heilong79
      @heilong79 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ojmcclanahan689 wow, strong opinion but as you are entitled to it, for me Nightmare 1 and 3 were the best and Friday the 13th 6 and 7.

    • @ojmcclanahan689
      @ojmcclanahan689 Před 2 lety +1

      @@heilong79 I can agree with that. I also enjoyed Nightmare 4 quite a bit. I like Jackie Earl Haley's take on Freddy in the remake. He was creepy, kind of perverted, not a comedian and he looked like a real burn victim. I didn't care for the movie as a whole though. My favorite Friday The 13th is Final Chapter, 6 and I also really enjoyed the 2009 reboot. Derek Mears as Jason in the reboot reminded a lot of CJ Graham in part 6. I don't like a lot of cheese and humor in my horror.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Před 2 lety +2

      "Took elements from the best of each franchise."
      Maybe for Freddy but not for Jason. Afraid of water? No Kane? Was murdered by kids rather than a accident? Dresses like a hobo instead of a walking skeleton? Plamela how has white hair and a red sweater? Jason has long hair and both eyes? No axe wound? Crystal Lake close to Springwood? Is a good guy who protects teenagers? Runs for a brief moment when crashing Freddy in the windows? Seriously the definition of not a fan who wrote that movie.

  • @walterhager8626
    @walterhager8626 Před 10 měsíci

    Wtf I thought I was already subbed until this popped up I'm like where the hell have you been😂❤

  • @thejawgz6719
    @thejawgz6719 Před 2 lety +1

    The Braga-Moore script would have made a great standalone Nightmare movie if re-written, maybe as a sequel to New Nightmare.

  • @Dwoalin
    @Dwoalin Před rokem +5

    Freddy vs Jason and Queen of the Damned are by far my two favorite movie soundtracks. Was Freddy vs Jason fantastic? No. But was it a fun ride and got the job done? Yes. Along with the previously mentioned killer soundtrack which introduced me to some of my now favorite bands of all time. It's a win from me.

    • @jimmyfromplaystation3629
      @jimmyfromplaystation3629 Před rokem

      Hell yeah especially at the end where ill ninos song would play at the credits man ill ninos is a badass band the og vocals has a new band it's called lions at the gate

  • @johnnyvargas1301
    @johnnyvargas1301 Před 3 lety +3

    Freddy vs Jason is one my favorite action/horror movies it’s truly a classic

  • @kcadventures1454
    @kcadventures1454 Před rokem

    Freddy vs Jason is actually my favorite Freddy movie besides dream warriors. Love the entire Friday series so Jason being afraid of water was a little goofy but this is a fun film!

  • @Radiohead801
    @Radiohead801 Před 3 lety

    Legit love that you kept your reading flubs in this.

  • @greenwitchinc.1682
    @greenwitchinc.1682 Před 3 lety +9

    I saw this film in the theatres on a gel tab. Needless to say... It was "trippy". I'd been anticipating this rivalry since I was a kid.
    I swear to God, even some of actors were smiling during the "scary" scenes. It was tripping me out so bad that at one point I literally looked over at my buddy asked - "Is it me or is everyone in the cast treating this like it's a joke?" Lol!

  • @GetToDaChoppa-k5r
    @GetToDaChoppa-k5r Před 3 lety +3

    Kane Hodder was actually the freddy hand (and glove) that dragged Jason's mask to hell. Fun fact.

  • @Icykrissy
    @Icykrissy Před 8 měsíci

    One of my favorite movies of all time. This movie was SUCHHHHH a fan service and it DELIVERED.

  • @youtubefan6822
    @youtubefan6822 Před 3 lety +2

    This was my first R movie I saw in theaters. I thought I was something special seeing a gory horror movie as my first ever R movie lol! I still love it to this day!

  • @AliFrankTheTank
    @AliFrankTheTank Před 3 lety +3

    This movie a guilty pleasure classic 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ a great crossover, a actual plot as to why they fighting as well. Love it… Nothing beats Jason dragging the mans through the house windows 😂🔥

  • @fejkpirat5118
    @fejkpirat5118 Před 3 lety +3

    I love it! They need to make another one.

  • @ford2010
    @ford2010 Před rokem +1

    Best freddy quote ever happened in this movie..."WHY WONT YOU DIE!"

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri Před 3 lety +1

    The greatest VS movie there ever was.
    Because with other vs movies, they don't seem to 'get it'.

  • @twistycrocdog8577
    @twistycrocdog8577 Před 3 lety +4

    I still have hope to see Jason Voorhees and Micheal Myers to clash together! Finally see who is truly top dog and king

  • @jakepayne2985
    @jakepayne2985 Před 3 lety +5

    Did you use a picture of Stanley Tucci in place of David Goyer?? Haha, for real

    • @LordofSyn
      @LordofSyn Před 3 lety

      That's what I thought too. But the two look astonishingly alike.

  • @mrmvp2323
    @mrmvp2323 Před 3 lety +2

    I was so hyped for this movie and even though I was satisfied, I expected more.i wouldn't mind a reboot or a different battle like mike Myers and jason...freddy vs hellraiser..I would love to see that one

  • @christopherwalsh2368
    @christopherwalsh2368 Před rokem +1

    Jason has been played by a lot of people, Kerzinger is actually my fav cause of this movie!

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel Před 3 lety +3

    I dig the Cult of Freddy idea and bringing back Jason to defeat him..

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😉

  • @vxmo2068
    @vxmo2068 Před rokem

    The most iconic line for me is “These Ever clears are kicking my ass”

  • @cassiyahsmith9940
    @cassiyahsmith9940 Před 9 dny

    I was 7 years old when this movie came out and my family took me to see it, probably hoping I wouldn’t pay attention. I’ll always remember that scene where Jason is holding Freddy’s severed head fondly 😂

  • @redpill.world2475
    @redpill.world2475 Před 3 lety +12

    Cheech and Chong meets Jason lmao that would have been a dream matchup come true hahaha would have loved to of seen that cross over happen... a lot of pot smoking topless chicks and Jason mayhem can't go wrong lol

  • @davidmayberry3190
    @davidmayberry3190 Před 2 lety +3

    I just watched Jason Goes to Hell a few days ago and kept thinking I really don't remember this movie being this ridiculously bad, but the last time I saw it was probably when it came out and through child eyes. Also watched Jason X recently, but I always remember that being terrible, I actually thought it was straight to video, or the cheap look made me assume it was.

  • @benjaminclark4030
    @benjaminclark4030 Před 2 lety +2

    Even though the story sounds ridiculous, it would have been wonderful to see Lisa Wilcox play Alice again. She's my lifelong favorite final girl.

  • @treyramirez8941
    @treyramirez8941 Před 3 lety

    still one of my fav movies, downloaded it and got it inna folder and i watch it all the time

  • @alexandergonzie1200
    @alexandergonzie1200 Před 3 lety +8

    As much as I love this legendary horror icon mashup, I hate most of the characters.

  • @kenhammscousin4716
    @kenhammscousin4716 Před 3 lety +3

    “Dude that goalie was pissed about something”
    Who let that stinker slide? Why jason mewes body double anyway?

  • @ianbaker8017
    @ianbaker8017 Před rokem +2

    Freddy vs Jason was my introduction to both characters and series. I thought both of them were cool as hell and that the movie kicked ass (still think it does despite some flaws). The movie got me hooked on both the Elm Street and Friday franchises and I adore revisiting it every once in a while.

  • @md.saunders6625
    @md.saunders6625 Před 2 lety +2

    Freddy vs Jason wasn't horrible but I think they could have done Jason better. The whole Frankenstein way of Jason just didn't work for me. Kane hodders version or CJ Grahams version would have made it better. Overall the movie did work and I'd love to see another one

  • @deborahmartin3140
    @deborahmartin3140 Před 3 lety +12

    I lost my V card the night I saw this in the theater in NYC, so it will always hold a special place in my heart.

    • @dogvschainsaw8944
      @dogvschainsaw8944 Před 3 lety +5

      That's a interetsing way of remebering it... Congrats

    • @jasonscala7771
      @jasonscala7771 Před 3 lety +1

      So as a girl you decided a guy to sleep with? Hold the presses must have been super hard to do then lolol

    • @DarkeningSkies1
      @DarkeningSkies1 Před 3 lety +1

      As long as it wasn't in the theater itself...

    • @ericseitzler81
      @ericseitzler81 Před 3 lety +4

      Proving my theory that when women get scared they get horny.Halloween is the easiest day to get laid

    • @aaronevans2175
      @aaronevans2175 Před 3 lety +2

      Haha same thing put on the OG nightmare on elm street ,Twas a wrap after that

  • @Myst031
    @Myst031 Před 3 lety +9

    This movie just feels like its exactly what its supposed to be. Its very cheesy and dumb but this is the Freddy vs Jason I want to see fight, the wise-cracking Freddy and the unkillable Jason. Love this movie. The ending I saw that i would have loved is at the end it cuts back to Jason and Freddy continuing their fight in hell but a bunch of chains flying in to restrain them, then out of the shadows Pinhead comes in and says "Now gentlemen, what seems to be the problem?" Silly, but I would have jumped out of my seat, honestly.

    • @jpcoqueran
      @jpcoqueran Před 3 lety

      that sounds amazing

    • @RedSpade37
      @RedSpade37 Před 2 lety

      As corny as it may sound, I still get a bit of a chill imaging that ending, haha

  • @robtierney5653
    @robtierney5653 Před 2 lety +1

    I know it's easy to arm chair QB.
    All this crazy backstory script ideas.. WTF? Couldn't they be like...
    Krueger wiped out his Springwood, and has been going around to all
    Elm Streets around the USA?... And then one day, finds his way the ELM street near Crytal Lake, and
    realizes Jason is a thing? Freddy fascinated, amused, and horrified by the unkillable Jason...
    Go off to play the ultimate game of slasher, "who's the best killer?"

  • @BMXFU
    @BMXFU Před rokem +1

    love F v J but goddamn - freddie and Jason fighting in a wrestling ring in hell surrounded by the worst people to ever walk the earth sounds incredible

  • @anthonyamoroso6451
    @anthonyamoroso6451 Před 3 lety +3

    Love this movie, not saying it's perfect, but a classic in my book!

  • @DMTInfinity
    @DMTInfinity Před 3 lety +4

    15:25 - 15:29
    When you just don't care anymore.

  • @Yountica
    @Yountica Před 3 lety

    Love this host's voice and cadence!! But, one tip: get yourself a pop stopper or even hold a pencil between your mouth and the microphone to prevent those low rumble plosives.

  • @jarkmonez
    @jarkmonez Před 2 lety +1

    Loved this movie, not ashamed. In fact this year for Halloween I will be Jason with the scratched mask.

  • @AliFrankTheTank
    @AliFrankTheTank Před 3 lety +4

    3:42 would’ve been the worst movie ever 😂😂😂

  • @bryansoto6355
    @bryansoto6355 Před 3 lety +7

    Great vid. I loved this movie. Thought it was pretty underrated.

  • @ItsNuxFury
    @ItsNuxFury Před 3 lety +1

    Ah yes, Gwee Elmore del Toro. Acclaimed movie film director famed for such classics as Atlantic Rim and Atlantic Rim: Resurrection.

  • @mattyplumbs2748
    @mattyplumbs2748 Před 3 lety +2

    Love these and Chris bumbry you are great but you need a pop filter for your mic and to move back from it a bit as your p’s are torture on the ears with ear buds. Thanks and keep doing what you’re doing as your vids are great.