Orange Micro Dark vs Peavey 6505 Piranha - LETS FIGHT!
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I wonder how it would be to have an orange fighting a piranha in real life
The orange stomps the piranha easily.
dsfadsfgafgf Or it could just juice all over the piranhas eyes
Chuck berry
the oranges acidity would kill the piranha in minutes...it would be like seppuko
Orange has more zest. Peavey has more pee.
That Peavey just ain't right.
They had the EQ as thin as it could go on the big cab while comparing it to a thick Orange amp. So yeah, it sounded awful compared to the Orange.
It isn't as hot as propane or propane accessories
I liked the Orange, Usually Peavey makes some fine products, but that Piranha is one dead fish.
JH Scofield Haha! You don't come by great puns easy lol
I know right! That Piranha just didn't have much bite. The Orange sounded way more juicy, and has an all round shape of tone.
The Peavey is too bland, Orange has more color to it.
The Piranha sounds like you'd find it floating belly up in the fish tank one fine morning ..... Choked to death by an Orange ^_^
Savage
20 mnts of Rob and Lee trying hard not to admit that the piranha sounds like absolute dog shit lol
Andrew Azr I ever catch u making fun of peavey products like this again you sorry POS, & I will personally serve you up a pile of dog shit.... and you gonna eat every bit of it, BOY! 😡
awww you seem butthurt, isn't that too bad. Btw peavey is shit
@@aimes3647 lol
ORANGE ALL THE WAY!
It has a stronger roar to it. It sounds less muddy and it sounds way nicer!
When will Chappers and the Captian acknowledge Hank Hill's brilliance.
The 4E Odd. I was wondering the same thing.
I think it will have to be preceded by their admission of propane's superiority as an outdoor cooking fuel over charcoal.
halffulltome Oh but I am a charcoal guy so I can't agree on that point. I prefer tasting the heat with the meat. But then again, I'm a Texan so Hank rules by default.
+Kenneth Norris. Personally I prefer charcoal also. Hank, have mercy on my soul. 🙏😇
7...years ago...youtube still was pretty nice. Watching these old vids is like being in a cozy living room at home with some hot coco. What have i done with my life in that time..
I own one of these Dark Terrors and it really is my favorite gigging amp. I have a 112 cab and a 412. Lifelong Peavey user here. I'll always have 2 of the DT amps. One as a backup. It has great tone, weighs NOTHING, and I remember getting giggles from other bands when I first played a show with this. Put it through a 412. When I started playing, the laughs turned into surprised open mouths. You seriously don't NEED anything else.
The Orange Micro Dark goes for right at $190 here and the Piranha is $180. I think the Orange blows the Piranha away. I own one and regularly use it through a 2x12. I have no disappointments with the Orange, but I think I'd be pissed if I'd bought the Piranha. It just sounds so thin.
Off topic, I'd like to make a suggestion - a blind super Strat challenge. Do like you've done in the past comparing Les Pauls and SGs, but compare a bunch of super Strats from various manufacturers at similar price points. Say a Charvel Pro Mod, an ESP, an Ibanez Iron Series, a Jackson Soloist, a Schecter C-1, etc. Say they're all within $100 +/- of each other and then do a blind shootout where you rate them on sound, playability and which you prefer overall.
The Micro Dark sounds phenomenal! the Piranha sounds like an overprocessed "insane" setting. Orange for the win!
Such a perfect description
@@brandonharris9160 Thanks :D
my prediction based on hearing both before...orange wins
EDIT: yup
they sound awesome together tho
Jeffrey Robinson u
Yeah together that was surprising and fun. I wonder how much those small 8 inch cabs and heads together cost. I know both cabs are 300 pounds. In USA orange is fairly affordable and quality.
I really wanted to love the Piranha...
I had one and had to send it back. The hiss sound was just annoying and the tone isn't as good as expected.
I just got the Orange so I'm biased! But in all honesty, I think the Orange sounds better to me.
Could I plug a micro amp into a combo amp?
preetsidoodle It's not plug and play, you'd have to do a bit of modification to the combo. It's fairly easy and uncomplicated though.
Through the speaker yes but don't plug it into the guitar input on the front of the amp. The preamp section of your combo wont be sufficient load for your head and the output from the head may damage the components in your combo.
+FunkyMunky1137 FX send of the head into FX return of the combo.
never killed a fish with fruit. but i think you guys have.
alex drop a watermelon on a bluegill
Anyone else remember when the Captain was allowed to play?
In a galaxy long time ago far far away...
C'mon Chaps, let him play!!
somebody is getting too big for his britches I believe?
He's just too awesome. Do you want your face melted off? I mean, Rob comes close, but nothing plastic surgery can't fix...
Hi sorry but the Captain is the boss and a blues guy, so Chapman can get heavy, and is a better player, I too get frustrated by Lee because he tends to be overbearing towards Rob and makes adjustments and often talks over him in the videos and really again doesn't know how to set up a good heavy sound. If they could make videos without him it would improve the harder sounds and the features would be truer to what they should be. Just my opinion, no hate towards Lee. After all without Lee, no videos or gear to demo.
Peavey for dat girthy AM-radio toan
That Orange Micro Dark blows the Peavey out of water. No contest here.
The Orange is better by far! Massive amount of good tonal nutrients. That lil Peavey sounds like a nasty, poisonous bite of fizz.
I love it when Rob starts playing that Catalyst riff
It's become one of the main reasons I watch the gear demos.
Way to go Rob! Sick riff!\m/
Lots of love
Great review Men, i just ordered me an Orange micro Dark and i knew they were great little heads, i had the micro terror, and loved it, so your video was spot on time and im more pleased now that i got the Micro Dark on its way, thanks, you guys are Awesome..Cheers
Peavey needs to rework this amp. They would be better off making a 20W peavey bandit Transtube mini-head.
OMG... I would love to see that.
It entered as the Piranha but left as a guppy.
Holy shit, what the fuck. I didn't even need headphones to hear the difference.
The Orange wins it for me. The Peavey sounds like a tortoise going through a bandsaw.
colblimp Lol 😂 😂😂 that’s so wrong.
🤔😳🤨
Accurate
😂🤣😂🤣😂
the Peavey is awful
Sounds like we're hearing the Peavey through a phone.
Harry Muff or a computer whichever one you’re using to watch this video
The difference is night and day for me. The Orange is like giving a rock guitarist a tube screamer mini (well priced but still really good) whereas the Peavey is more like a rock guitarist with a Miku
The sound of both together was freaking huge!
I think I'm in love with that PRS S2... Also - kudos to you, Rob, for the little hajime in the beginning of the video. I heard it for years and years of training before I blew my knee out, and it gave me a little smile to hear it again. On topic of the amps, though, honestly I prefer my Blackstar ID:Core over both.
Future fight: Orange Micro Dark with 1x8 cab, vs. Crush 20rt 1x8 combo amp. In America, the Micro w/cab comes out around $300, the Crush is ~$200. Wonder if the extra 100 is worth it, or pro/con of features.
I have the crush 20 and crush 20 LDX which have different signal paths before the fx... they both are damn good sounding amps. I've modified both to have an external speaker output that switches out the internal speaker, and through a 4x12 they both sound fantastic.
I have the micro dark and the crush 35rt. Imo, tube wins. Just sounds better. The 35rt isn't bad by any means, but the micro dark just rips. It's great.
@@jleighwolfethe micro dark with 1x8"?
that peavey sounds terrible.
like a box of shits
that's an insult to boxes of shits everywhere
To my ears the bit more squashed
Stephen H. its very shrill and thin sounding, specially when compared to the orange
Gaseous Snake i call it hollow but yeah it's bad regardless.
I've been looking for this video since the piranha came out!
The Micro dark killed it, I own one myself and actually its a fantastic little amp, not too great with pedals but for jamming volume and cost alone...it's f'ing amazing.
The two amps are just made for each other; they're tonemates :')
With their own cabs, I honestly didn't think either one was better or worse. Definitely different sounds, but both quite good. The piranha hit the drop d chuggas better. Once you had the 2x12, orange was the clear winner.... Though the half a sec where the eq was up on the piranha did sound very nice. Both together was definitely awesome.
Thank you! for a year I have been torn between both of them. I am going to get the orange!
I know this video is about the amps but I can't stop staring at that PRS Rob is playing.
PRS S2 Standard Satin Singlecut. Beautiful
Is this a repeat of the Mesa Cab Clone situation.. did the comments upset Peavey?
First ever side by side gear test that I can say that one is objectively better than the other, Orange FTW. The Peavey (and I am a Peavey fan) sounds like my 5 watt harmony practice amp I got when I was 11.
Edit: Ok, both on at the same time is RAD. And... Peavey through the 2x12 sounds like sweaty ass.
sounds really good together for such small cabs!!
Thanks for this, I was curious about the Piranha, but it's nice to know that my Micro Dark would kick it's arse. No nuts there at all.
Orange all the way. ALL THE WAY
Damn that sounded real fucking nice together
Both together sound amazing !
BOTH mixed together - that was awesome sound!
The Peavey sounds like I'm hearing it in an empty metal shipping container. So shrill and metallic.
That Peavey sounded horrible, almost as if it was out of phase.
neun Arme I can assure you, I checked that!
*****
Damned! So it's the amp, it sucks.
I think the Peavey mini cab has one of the captain's socks in it.
And it can't really drive much bigger cabs, it seems.
What do you mean out of phase? Do you mean it sounds thin or what because scientifically if you were to hear one note you can't hear whether the sound is in phase and out of phase. The sine waves are spinning at at least 400 times per second you can't hear if it is in phase or out of phase and besides of it is just the amp running by itself so there is no phase cancellation so I think you just mean it sounded thin
no I mean it sounded out of phase. I use 2 mics when micing Amps, and if they sound thin, or lack of bass, that normally means out of phase, in other words, the waves hit each capsule at different times, causing lack of bass and hollow tone. maybe Lee knocked the mic accidentally.
Finally played a micro dark in the shop, what a piece of kit 😍
ORANGE!!! I love it and I'm American. Love your videos by the way.
this two amps together are killahhhhh!
The piranha just sounds unbelievably compressed, yet the orange sounds like it can really stretch its legs, open up, and belt it out!
I have the Orange amp and cab! the cab was 100. dollars here in the southern U.S., AND the amp was 169 dollar's! I paid 79 dollar's for the cab! enjoyed your video! thank you!
It just shows that when you put two different countries together, they create something better than just being alone. Such as life. Intriguing analogy!
The Peavey sounds like it's being played out of an old am radio.
Easily the Orange is superior.
Dude, at 12 oclock the Orange had more bottom but the Piranha definitely had a tasty, more midrange sound that works really well for cutting through in mixes [same deal with the 5150]. But that's just how it sounds on my speakers and through youtube. Thanks for the comparison video!!! Wouldn't mind hearing an Orange in person one day.
FINALLY been waiting for this since the peavey came out, I still proffer the orange and not just because I have one.
Definitely, the orange sounded much better.
Do the JCM800 2203 vs Mesa Dual Rec or Silver Jubilee vs Orange Rockerverb
I replaced the 12AX7 inside the MD after reading about a much clearer sound throughout the gain spectrum, and what an outstanding result! This is a great little amp and it does sound awesome out of the box, however after replacing the stock tube with a new Mullard tube, the amp really came alive. I ran it pushing a 4x12 cab for some friends and other guitarist and everyone was 😍. One of them even bought one. FYI for eventual buyers, experiment with different tubes. Cheers
Thank you. Mines coming in the mail today
¿What tube did you use?
@@brayanlara3289 A Mullard 12AX7
@@danielbertola7868 ¡Thank you! i will try it
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The Orange sounds much fuller and richer, but won't be enough for an "ultra metal" sound
And they managed to get a quite decent Metal sound with the Piranha in the end.
The problem are the cabs. Both amps are decent especially fot the price (I prefer micro dark btw) but with those little cabs...with 2x12 v30 (harley benton with a little mod by me) the micro dark sound really close to the dark terror (amp that I use for many years).
This video lead me to the micro dark, and GOOD GOD I LOVE THIS DAMN THING sooo loud and brutal. I bought the Randall rmsomething mini cab to go with it.
I had the same dilemma for an amp for home recording and found the Orange range more suitable and affordable, so I ended up buying Orange and have no complaints with it.
Peavey sounds like an am radio
The orange has deep rich sound and the peavey sounds like a tin of beans
The Orange is my favorite of the two by far, but both together are fantastic.
I've been using Orange for almost a year now. I was thinking about Peavey, but then i heard the demos. Orange for me. Also with a little boost in front (i use ts mini), it can produce very satisfying metal rhythm and solo tones.
I don't really like negative comments, but man, that Peavey sounds like shit. The Orange sounded pretty good to me YMMV
the Peavey somehow sounds scooped and nasal at the same time.
YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!!!!! I WISH I WORKED AT ANDERTON'S WITH YOU!!!!!
Orange kills it!!! So glad I own one. Here in my local American shop, the Orange was $189 and the cab $99, while the Peavey is like $159 and no idea on the cab
A Piranha is useless against scurvy...... YARRRR!!!!!
Von Ungarn Siegfried hahaha well said captain !
the reason why the piranha sounds so shitty is cuz Lee scooped it WAY too much. at 7:08 it sounded like crap..then he turned the knob to the right and at 7:13 it sounded much better...but then he turned it back the other way. Please let Rabea or Rob dial in the metal tones. Lee doesn't know what he is doing
yeah, thought of that aswell..
Obstsalat95 he has a noticeable habit of doing that with American amps...does he know we all grew out of that phase 20 years ago?
Drove me mad. Every time it started sounding good he turned it back again.. Did he ever turn it past 9 o'clock?
I totally agree, Obstsalat95
Completely agree. I've seen other reviews of that Piranha and it sounds brilliant. For the record I like them both for different reasons, but again the Piranha wasn't given a fair crack at it
They're both winners to me because I would mix both in together to that blend of the two amps working together this makes your tone immense
I love Peavey and was so stoked when they came out with the piranha, but in every video I've seen it sounds terrible. I love the 6505mh though, hopefully soon they tweak the micro head to get it up to par.
the peavey sounds really tinny, the orange has a much fuller tone to me, I need that low end
Every time I see a PRS I want one
I love the Orange. It's got that lovely British sound like Marshall. The Piranha is USA & to me has that American distortion sound. Which is cool. Just a bit different. I personally prefer the British tone. But that's just me. I have the Orange "Dark Terror" & through a nice Marshall 4x12 screams!!! Thanks for the great video. Dwayne
I think the tone of the Peavey is mutch better, but the Orange has more low end.
Booth together sound like a real all tube amp!
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘
Like choosing between shit and puke, but I'd go for the Orange.
I keep hearing the Piranha sound good with that notch knob at about twelve o'clock (five?); but he keeps backing it off a ton, and it sounds really thin. The reason it doesn't have much low end that way, is because the notch cuts out the highs and lows.
They all do that! Every youtuber reviewing amplifiers, turns the tone knob to the perfect sound, then ruins it.
If I could only choose one, I would choose the Orange. But right after I would be wanting that Piranha. That duo seems more portable than a 20W head.
Warm and Cool... warm 'n cool.
i can't express to you in words how much getting rid of those dreads helped you rob chapman
Didn't care for either of them.
Together? hoooooly mackerel. That's a hell of a sound.
It sounds immense when they played both micros together
the middle Knob on the PV needed ta be turned up but i believe your love for Orange/UK pushed your decision !
My main amp is a Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo with an Orange PPC 2x12 extension cab. I picked up a brand new Orange Micro Dark for $150 just to match my cab and it is surprisingly awesome. It's not the best sounding amp ever, but for a $150 practice amp, I couldn't ask for more.
That peavey sounds like its coming out of a coffee can.
Didn't like either. The Orange sounded muffled, the Peavey sounded thin.
I absolutely love the Orange sound! The heavier bottom sounds really make that tone what it is, and as a heavy metal fan I like thick and fat sounds better. That's just my opinion though. I think which tone you like better is solely based on your personal taste in music and tones.
That a kicking sound with both on….me likes!
that peavey is as far from a 6505 as a piranha is from a goldfish
The best product in this video is that sweet PRS
*Here is, what i can say about work with the orange "micro dark" and by using a distortion/overdrive pedal:* I use the micro dark with a t-rex "mudhoney 2" making it a "3-channel-amp" and "fine-tuned" the over-all sound with a boss eq-7 ( which aside form "eq-ing" also gives me the opportunity to boost all three sounds...) and - what sounds really fantastic! - a t-rex "playback" delay, which has the interesting specific trait to make your sound much "warmer" and much more "full" when you slightly reduce the "delay"-knob ( .... which regulates the intensity of the echo signal) a little bit below 12 o'clock ( the volume of the echo-signal gets a bit lower, but the main signal - as being said - gets more warmth and richness). All that thru a orange 4x12"" cabinet with celestion "vintage 30ties"!!
I honestly can say, that i took a few days to test out the different sound components work best together, but i finally got a UNBELIEVABLE versatile sound from ultra-clean over to full, rich and "bluesey" crunch, a warm, melodic "gary moore"-like lead-overdrive up to crushing, biting metal distortion - *all that for the price of a single, big "big brand" amp head!!*
I use all for home recording, band rehearsal room and small gigs - and it works fantastic!!
Test it by yourself!! You'll be surprised!!
ROCK ON!!
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I have a Micro Dark but only had it at low volumes through its 118 cab (due to living in a flat with neighbours above and below) but will be taking it into the studio next week to put it through its paces in a 1960a Marshall 4x12 and I can't wait. I have a few gain pedals to stick in front and a few reverb/delay pedals to put through the effects loop. From this video the Orange blows the dead fish out the water for me and im glad I got the Orange
By themselves, the Orange sound is FAR superior, but in a mix, the Peavy might work. It really depends on how you use it.
was the audio messed up today?? or are my ears dying? :-)
I use both of these amps together whenever my band plays, and the tones together sound fucking awesome. I also use a fender telecaster deluxe reissue. I plan on adding a Vox MV50 Rock amp in combination with these two amps as well in the near future. Both of these amps together on the same rig is loud enough to overpower the drums.
We love our orange here in American too! I can't believe how thin that 6505 sounds, maybe try running a Micro Terror with the Micro Dark Terror would sound cool.