Why did Barcelona pay the Head of Referees?

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  • čas přidán 23. 03. 2023
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    Barcelona are in hot water, again. This time for alleged payments to a company owned by a former La Liga referee for insider knowledge on how to manipulate referees.
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  • @kondwanichiomba5411
    @kondwanichiomba5411 Před rokem +1340

    This was a good move rather than paying 135 million euros for continuo

  • @Tomwithnonumbers
    @Tomwithnonumbers Před rokem +901

    It's funny that Barca stopped paying for these reports from the son in the exact year the father retired from his position as a referee.

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Před rokem +96

      Pure coincidence I'm sure

    • @vr6ather
      @vr6ather Před rokem

      It’s funny how we’ll come out innocent anyway idiot

    • @crypto_mbappe3056
      @crypto_mbappe3056 Před rokem +60

      negreira wasnt a referee. he was the vice president of CTA. they are in-charge of relegation and promotions of referees. Barca directors claimed to have paid him for refereeing reports for the first team and also for la masia through his private company and the evidence of that has been provided.
      what barca is being charged for is conflict of interest, i.e paying him when he was in an active position of influence that he would have used his influenced to favor the club in that said period of time. corruption comes in due to how the deal was uncovered as Negreira was evading Taxes and the sum of money paid to him was exorbitant over that said period of time. the aspect of sporting favors has to be proven in court inorder for barca to be persecuted and as of now, there's zero prove of sporting favors over the said period of time being charged by the persecutors.
      that's the summary of the case.

    • @crypto_mbappe3056
      @crypto_mbappe3056 Před rokem +8

      @@00dude3 according to the papers, the payment ceased because of barca financials.

    • @sharkr3283
      @sharkr3283 Před rokem +13

      It was also the same year VAR was introduced in La Liga.

  • @gordon1545
    @gordon1545 Před rokem +987

    Bartomeu's claim that he thought he was only dealing with the son makes it look even worse. Nobody at that level of business is this naive. This is exactly the ruse you would come up with if it were your intention to commit a fraud.

    • @eoghankelly4377
      @eoghankelly4377 Před rokem +64

      It doesn't even make it better. Why would you pay the head of refereeing's son to provide intel on referees?

    • @danielnikochandra
      @danielnikochandra Před rokem

      that man tried his best to ruin Barca when he was president

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem +8

      ​@@eoghankelly4377 He paid THE COMPANY and had dealings with the son. Did you even watch the video?

    • @gerhardsmith7892
      @gerhardsmith7892 Před rokem +51

      @@mhtv5959 Oh yeah, that makes it so much better, forget all about it, he was just paying the company of the vice president of the CTA not knowing that it was the company of the vice president of the CTA despite dealing directly with the son of the vice presindet, nothing weird about that!

    • @shaxxs
      @shaxxs Před rokem +23

      @@mhtv5959 You're so naive and clueless, bless you

  • @Zeerse_Chef
    @Zeerse_Chef Před rokem +517

    So between the various statements. Barcelona paid a referee for reports about how players should act around individual referees but the managers were unaware of such reports. Why is no one asking the players at that time if they received information and who from?

    • @Heelo_0
      @Heelo_0 Před rokem +81

      Because it's a corrupt case, so null in details while media keeps milking its concept

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem +28

      ??? Have you been under a rock? Players have regularly spoke out against such nonsense.
      And other clubs also paid for such reports

    • @ThatGuy-qp6dv
      @ThatGuy-qp6dv Před rokem +58

      Ud have to be naive to believe they only paid for some reports 😂 That's what they're claiming because match fixing is illegal. They'd never admit to that

    • @xwarped83
      @xwarped83 Před rokem +25

      @@mhtv5959 what other teams have paid for such reports?

    • @TheBonecrusherz
      @TheBonecrusherz Před rokem +42

      Why do professional players need a report on how to behave around referees? Just don't break the rules and you're good, it's not rocket science is it?

  • @ComradeOgilvy1984
    @ComradeOgilvy1984 Před rokem +250

    Pep Guardiola not knowing what these reports provided is extremely damning. If it were a legitimate report on how to adjust playing style for specific referees, that cannot possibly work with the manager out of the loop.

    • @sinaasviin4139
      @sinaasviin4139 Před rokem +34

      Same thing is happening in City, he is counting extra petrodollars in his pocket but he doesn't know it

    • @GamingRobioto
      @GamingRobioto Před rokem +17

      Yeah, because his word must be true

    • @cristianzumba6548
      @cristianzumba6548 Před rokem

      The reports were to see if Madrid benefited from refereeing decisions. The manager really has nothing to do with that

    • @thisIsFunnyLolz
      @thisIsFunnyLolz Před rokem +4

      ​@@GamingRobioto Valverde also said he did not know about the "reports" either

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo Před rokem +13

      Fraudiola saying Fraudiola things.

  • @lol-kc1sr
    @lol-kc1sr Před rokem +22

    Ha. Turns out Real Madrid fans were right when they called them Uefalona!

    • @lyricistk4918
      @lyricistk4918 Před rokem +1

      How does uefa and laliga get in this.😂

  • @lewispalmer8257
    @lewispalmer8257 Před rokem +254

    Bodies close to Pep Guardiola. Artetas done it again

    • @Aditya_Raj123
      @Aditya_Raj123 Před rokem +37

      😂😂Arteta masterclass

    • @Brandon-nq7ys
      @Brandon-nq7ys Před rokem +8

      Arteta put the cones out at City, and that legoheaded fraud will bottle the league

    • @shalinisahay8570
      @shalinisahay8570 Před rokem +2

      @@Brandon-nq7ys Bro really thinks City will bottle the league 😂😂

    • @Brandon-nq7ys
      @Brandon-nq7ys Před rokem

      @@shalinisahay8570 I meant Arsenal you airhead

    • @lewispalmer8257
      @lewispalmer8257 Před rokem +7

      @@Brandon-nq7ys Chill bro, Peps an insane manager and didn't need Arteta to win what he has at city obviously. Its obviously joke as Arteta was still playing when Pep was at Barça

  • @STV749
    @STV749 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Messi's entire story is a lie, the referee help that the boat received and still continues to receive has always been evident

  • @anonymususer1728
    @anonymususer1728 Před rokem +34

    5:40 "to make sure no refereeing decisions were made against them, which is to say, for everything to be neutral"
    Do people realise that this is basically admission of guilt ?
    Other teams do have decisions go against them sometimes, so if Barcelona pays to eliminate decisions against them - then that is an advantage ! So the situation is NOT neutral when that happens.
    The playing field must be equal for all. All the teams accept that sometimes referees make mistakes against them. As long as it is unintentional (human error), it will not matter, because it will average out over time (sometimes you get erros in your favor, sometimes against you).
    But If one team eliminates those unfavorable mistakes (through payment) - the average refereeing manner toward that team will be better than the others.

    • @anonymususer1728
      @anonymususer1728 Před rokem +3

      Think of it mathematically:
      - let's say you rate each "refereeing performance" on a scale from 0 to 10, which evaluates how correct the decisions were
      - so when the referee makes mistakes, he gets a rating of 0, if he doesn't he gets a rating of 10
      - assuming no "foul play" and only human error, over time each team will receive an average rating of 5 (because 0+10 divided by 2 is 5)
      - now if one of the teams eliminates the unfavorable performances (those where the rating is below 5), then you end up with only above average refereeing perfomances so the calculation would look like this: 5+10 divided by 2, which equals 7.5
      - so to sum it up, the other teams receive refereeing performances averaging a rating of 5, while Barcelona receives refereeing performances averaging 7.5

    • @nathansiukuta9238
      @nathansiukuta9238 Před rokem +1

      @@anonymususer1728 agreed

    • @orioneden7529
      @orioneden7529 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's easy to assume things when you have no idea what you're talking about..
      In 1976 a referee Antonio Camacho said "while Plaza -the CTA president back then- remains president of the CTA, Barcelona will never win any trophies. Plaza was a Real Madrid supporter. Funny how they still haven't found any evidence of Barcelona paying off referees to win matches. Tebas, La Liga president is a Real Madrid supporter. There's a lot of Real Madrid corruption in Spain. Even when Madrid won their UCL trophies, teams were INVITED and calls favored Madrid. Please do more research.

    • @anonymususer1728
      @anonymususer1728 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@orioneden7529 Do you feel good when you talk down to other people ?
      There is no need to know anything else here, because what I've said stands on its own, as it is simply a matter of LOGIC and DEDUCTION.
      When you admit to paying referees in order to eliminate decisions against you ... that's an advantage, end of story.

    • @kdot7175
      @kdot7175 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@anonymususer1728 no it is not. Barcelona has always been disfavored by LaLiga and its referees since they are almost an independent nation by itself. Barcelona has had to pay money to the Negreira to get information other teams already get. It's payment for fair treatment. That's how things are between Barcelona and Laliga. They are hated because they are different. End of story.

  • @Abdi-libaax
    @Abdi-libaax Před rokem +293

    Someone told me Barcelona paid him to make sure that Barcelona got no decisions in their favour 😂😂

    • @steele8280
      @steele8280 Před rokem +23

      Someone was wrong.

    • @manashjb
      @manashjb Před rokem

      That someone is a big scum and fraud you know.

    • @RuairiODonnellFOTO
      @RuairiODonnellFOTO Před rokem +23

      Not in their favour, more reduce referee decisions that would hurt Barca results. Messi era is now sullied by their directors manipulation of RFEF impartiality

    • @tilikumtim5562
      @tilikumtim5562 Před rokem +3

      5:38

    • @steele8280
      @steele8280 Před rokem

      @@RuairiODonnellFOTO Wrong again. Nothing was paid for anyone to do (influence) anything, there is no evidence for this. The evidence suggests the company Negreira owned was paid to analyze games to determine if there was neutrality or not.

  • @balzinderchhabra8804
    @balzinderchhabra8804 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Barcelona should be banned from football altogher. Plain and simple. Never forget that UCL semi-final VS Chelsea. They bribed the referee to win that game.

  • @kinkajou23
    @kinkajou23 Před rokem +131

    Of all the consultants they could do business with they chose one that is working in position that can potentially incriminate them. Yeah I believe that 👍

    • @siyachrie
      @siyachrie Před rokem +8

      Do up honestly watch la liga and think barca get favorable calls from referees?

    • @JayVee53
      @JayVee53 Před rokem +7

      @@siyachrie if anything its the opposite 😂😂

    • @Astraben
      @Astraben Před rokem +24

      ​​@@siyachrie You obviously don't. Setting the "watching" (you clearly don't watch it) aside, the stats on Barça's refereeing are so skewed in their favor they break charts. Entire seasons with 1 penalty against them and the like. You people are just in denial.

    • @JayVee53
      @JayVee53 Před rokem +2

      @@Astraben real Madrid is the club who has the most goals ruled out by VAR in the league BY FAR..... What does that tell you, it tells you that the referee in the middle of the park incase of any doubt picks the decision that favours RM.

    • @Astraben
      @Astraben Před rokem +3

      @@JayVee53 Btw, your BY FAR is laughable, since Madrid has had 10 penalties called in their favor, against 9 in favor of Betis, and 7 in favor of the next 4 teams. Just lol-ing at desperate culers grasping for air. You're going to Segunda and I'll laugh all the way there.

  • @Drunken_Master
    @Drunken_Master Před rokem +136

    Just like in the banking system, Barcelona is too big to fall. The punishment will be a slap on the wrist, if any.

    • @funkrates4778
      @funkrates4778 Před rokem +1

      Lol. Yeah. I don’t think it’s like a bank bailout. Not close.

    • @Drunken_Master
      @Drunken_Master Před rokem +21

      @@funkrates4778 It's not, but neither LaLiga nor UEFA can afford drastic sanctions against the club. Barca won't be literally bailed out because this is not a financial matter, but it's transgressions will likely be overlooked.

    • @funkrates4778
      @funkrates4778 Před rokem +11

      @@Drunken_Master I’m sure they will be punished but not to such an extent that it would destroy the club. I know that Juventus was deducted 15 league points for its transgressions, which has huge financial consequences. Being barred from champions league and things like that might be the extent of the punishment. Destroying the club by forcing it into bankruptcy would be too extreme of a sanction.
      If it does come out that Barcelona has been bribing referees, Id like to see the investigation proceed further and see id other clubs are involved. It’s hard for me to believe that Barcelona os the only club trying to gain an advantage in the league. The Madrid teams are likely involved too.

    • @scipioafricanus2212
      @scipioafricanus2212 Před rokem +7

      You're right. Although if there is proper justice, Barca will be expelled from Spanish football. Clubs have been expelled for less.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Před rokem +8

      @@scipioafricanus2212 Than we should leave Spanish football. Time for indepedent Catalan league

  • @adamu8
    @adamu8 Před rokem +62

    Juventus was relegated to Serie B with point deduction as well in 2006 for less (just illegal contacts with referees, no money transfers).
    But considering the current state of the game, Barca can sleep peacefully, they won't be getting any significant punishment.

    • @mgutierrez2351
      @mgutierrez2351 Před rokem +2

      Also taking in consideration that Calciopoli was a absolute, multi-club, nationwide scandal in which there were even people from the very top of Italy’s government involved. This Barcelona thing looks like a Dr. Seuss book in contrast with the Calciopoli

    • @adamu8
      @adamu8 Před rokem +2

      @@mgutierrez2351 what you're talking about is anecdotal evidence. And there are documents containing money transfers for the Barca case. Also you can easily find graphs clearly showing how Barca benefited from paid refereeing for example by getting less red cards, while the opponents in the matches against them received more red cards than average. The anomaly is clear and cannot be explained otherwise. Just search reddit for the data.
      Barca should be stripped of every single title over almost two decades because of this clearly rotten system.

    • @zerolino
      @zerolino Před rokem +3

      ​@@adamu8 there is no such evidence for this case(if you have the evidence pls submit) and it's an ongoing investigation.
      Reddit 😅 there are other videos showing decisions against barca (lost a league title) what do you think abt that? Nothing!!!

    • @kingkhaya1115
      @kingkhaya1115 Před rokem

      Ur right

    • @nicovelardita8619
      @nicovelardita8619 Před rokem

      ​@@adamu8 this mf really used Reddit as a source
      I do believe Barça is guilty to at least some extent, but please, leave the issue to professionals

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 Před rokem +289

    The only thing I'm curious about is how this scandal will compare to Calciopoli when it's all said and done.

    • @tonytellingitlikeitis5708
      @tonytellingitlikeitis5708 Před rokem +56

      Calciopoli, ALL of the big clubs, Milan, Juve, Inter, Lazio, Fiorentina, etc, did NOT pay referees. They selected referees that would decide favorably for their matches. Moggi was recorded calling refs. So was the staffer on behalf of Gallaini for Milan. So was MORRATTI. But all of the rivals were punished except for Inter; why? TELECOM ITALIA Shareholder was on the board of Inter Milan. All of its enemies were punished and Inter with Billionaire Morratti who could not buy a Scudetto despite being top spender was given a competitive advantage by having a monopoly over the transfer market.

    • @Crispy_DAWG
      @Crispy_DAWG Před rokem +35

      This is no where near the level of that scandal

    • @interovic
      @interovic Před rokem +7

      ​@@tonytellingitlikeitis5708 hope your victimhood shines through again with the capital gains case, and the salaries under the table aka fraud. No morratti to hide behind now😂

    • @isaaccastro4846
      @isaaccastro4846 Před rokem +3

      @@Crispy_DAWG yet

    • @Ovenman940
      @Ovenman940 Před rokem

      So the only thing you're curious about is the conclusion of everything. Picky.

  • @user-wl1uz5sb9f
    @user-wl1uz5sb9f Před rokem +14

    So from 2001 to 2018, that is 17 seasons, 7.2m euros, and average of 423k/season to adulterate a competition, not that expensive. That seems to be something within the affordability range of any team in La Liga...

    • @ivy8483
      @ivy8483 Před rokem +15

      That we know of … they could use cash or other collateral under the table

    • @masecaccm8372
      @masecaccm8372 Před rokem +2

      If you pay 5M a year to the VP of the referees, then it becomes to obvious. They say this started because Barcelona tried to deduct expenses with the tax agency and they started to ask documentation which they couldn't provide

    • @Arms1234
      @Arms1234 Před rokem +3

      It’s not only 7.3 millions. The difference between refereeing in First division and second division is about $200k per year. That’s a lot for a referee. Enriquez Negreira controlled who was gonna referee each division.

    • @user-wl1uz5sb9f
      @user-wl1uz5sb9f Před rokem

      @@Arms1234 How Negreira would use the money and his influence, that's a different matter. What I'm saying is, if that is how much it costs to adulterate a competition, it is very cheap as compared as the many other expenditures that a club has. That's why the reporting quotes the total figure, to make it sound bigger, as if they gave the cost per season that would not be as impacting. which is suspicious.

    • @carlosperezdelema
      @carlosperezdelema Před 8 měsíci +2

      7.3 Million is the money they found. I also think it's cheap, but if they found 7.3M, who is to say that's all there is?

  • @midfielderlounge2592
    @midfielderlounge2592 Před rokem +269

    The whole world will see who was corrupt

    • @carloscervantes911
      @carloscervantes911 Před rokem +113

      Real de Madrid, Florenvito Perez

    • @pali-yoda7375
      @pali-yoda7375 Před rokem +175

      ​@@carloscervantes911 so barca pays refs for 20 years but that makes perez corrupt ? How delusional are you 😂

    • @carloscervantes911
      @carloscervantes911 Před rokem

      @@pali-yoda7375 You clearly don't know how things work in Spain, dunce

    • @jaycutler118
      @jaycutler118 Před rokem +109

      @@pali-yoda7375 Average Barca fan

    • @Nickxmw
      @Nickxmw Před rokem +26

      @@carloscervantes911 average 🧠 less fans

  • @POTZ123
    @POTZ123 Před rokem +18

    You only have to look at the referee's decisions made in the 2009 semi final to give you all the answers you need, biggest fix in recent history.

    • @nicovelardita8619
      @nicovelardita8619 Před rokem +4

      That match was referred by a Norwegian team, if corruption is involved is not at all related with the Negreira/Spain scandal

    • @IASP17
      @IASP17 Před rokem +6

      2010 and 2011 too. ridiculous red cards but atleast Inter still managed to eliminate them in 2010. btw Mourinho called them out on this back in 2011. but like always people just bashed Mourinho but he was right.

    • @GFSagredo
      @GFSagredo Před 10 měsíci +6

      Chelsea-Barça is the worst scandal I have seen in terms of refereeing of a match. It was a full blown disgrace, Drogba nailed it. The second one was Barça-PSG 6-1. They are both sold as great achievements by Barça fans, but they should be ashamed instead.

  • @anonamouscore2393
    @anonamouscore2393 Před rokem +96

    Bayern now the only big team Pep has managed, which is not under any corruption scandal

    • @oxymoron458
      @oxymoron458 Před rokem +10

      That could change 😂

    • @Samuel_mm7
      @Samuel_mm7 Před rokem +2

      People are starting to see pattern here, heh 😏

    • @rickiesgucci4814
      @rickiesgucci4814 Před rokem +10

      @@oxymoron458german teams seem to be less corrupt and more financially sustainable

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Před rokem

      No trophies Messi has won aren't asteriked

    • @rashidkhalid3970
      @rashidkhalid3970 Před rokem

      Pay refs to win a league they already do every year 😊

  • @kentonburke4433
    @kentonburke4433 Před rokem +231

    I can never forget when Robin Van Persie got a red card for kicking the ball away in a Champions League match against Barcelona. That referee was against Arsenal from the start

    • @pablosanchez9549
      @pablosanchez9549 Před rokem +100

      The case deals with La Liga, not UEFA competition

    • @hectorlagos8937
      @hectorlagos8937 Před rokem +50

      @@pablosanchez9549 yet still the same team is involved, god only knows where this goes

    • @rahuldeb6052
      @rahuldeb6052 Před rokem +37

      @@hectorlagos8937 didn't he get yellow? 2nd yellow not directly a red

    • @VolTheProducer
      @VolTheProducer Před rokem +72

      The infamous Drogba "its a f**king disgrace" game also comes to mind...

    • @mhkpt
      @mhkpt Před rokem +24

      @@VolTheProducer That game was the absolute worst referring I have ever seen. I am absolutely not a Chelsea fan, but Chelsea were COMPLETELY robbed that night.

  • @binzianer
    @binzianer Před rokem +7

    Whether this is legal or not, it's extremely fishy either way. What a disgrace

    • @robertoddiaz7323
      @robertoddiaz7323 Před 7 měsíci +1

      That is why soccer is completely tarnished since the FIFA scandal back in 2015 and I no will never be the same of good reputation

  • @injest1928
    @injest1928 Před rokem +48

    "Ok so i gave them a bunch of money but i didn't know who i was giving it to! I thought i was just giving it to some guy who happened to be the son of the referee boss. I don't even know why i was giving money! Maybe for some sort of analysis, i don't know! 😅

  • @chuksedeogumichael3326
    @chuksedeogumichael3326 Před rokem +9

    Do we remember that Chelsea game in 2009 UCL against Barca that was a very clear scandal in favour of Barcelona. Secondly you tell me you paid no make bad decision against Barca what a beautiful truth

    • @nicovelardita8619
      @nicovelardita8619 Před rokem

      The scandal involves LaLiga, not UEFA

    • @AB10-DL
      @AB10-DL Před 8 měsíci

      It’s funny when people talk about games that they never watched or wasn’t even born when they played

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels Před rokem +8

    "That money was just resting in my account!"

    • @aidanmoran12
      @aidanmoran12 Před rokem +2

      BIZZARE IRREGULARITIES IN HIS ACCOUNTS

  • @charanko8734
    @charanko8734 Před rokem +54

    Man really said "they paid me to make sure no decisions goes against them". If that's not the proof I don't know what is. But nothing will happen. La liga needs them unfortunately.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem +2

      That's a very common practice in Spain.

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman Před rokem

      Statue of limitations had passed for La Liga's internal laws for this kind of stuff. It's a matter for the judiciary and there's too much bias for any kind of trial as you'd be hard pressed to get charges in Catalunya and federal charges from Madrid will be likely appealed with "Real Madrid/Atletico fans as prosecution"

    • @TimedOut4noReason
      @TimedOut4noReason Před rokem +8

      There is a thing called a brain and ears. If you use them accordingly and dont act like a sheep you would realize thats not the real quote.

    • @charanko8734
      @charanko8734 Před rokem

      @@TimedOut4noReason there there buddy! Don't get angry at people because you support a corrupt club.

    • @alessandrotorres3537
      @alessandrotorres3537 Před rokem

      @@TimedOut4noReason well, the quote states that they paid him to ensure neutrality and does point out that they wanted to ensure referees weren’t making decisions against Barcelona.

  • @booboosnack
    @booboosnack Před rokem +31

    Tragic for what the club once symbolized. If anything, it is as much of its own worst enemy as the city it now happens to represent.

    • @STANKORachev
      @STANKORachev Před 8 měsíci +1

      Messi > Penaldo, Barca > Vareal Madrid

    • @STANKORachev
      @STANKORachev Před 8 měsíci

      @@Failre69420 pessi, uefalona, Penaldo, VAReal Madrid. Who is better?

  • @mandlandlovu336
    @mandlandlovu336 Před rokem +23

    There was a time where barca players would fall and roll all over the pitch to get players sent off...

  • @proviewplayr6468
    @proviewplayr6468 Před rokem +31

    Tifo do a special on the last time jamaica went to the world cup

    • @eL-RaL
      @eL-RaL Před rokem

      What is Jamaica?

  • @tilikumtim5562
    @tilikumtim5562 Před rokem +9

    3:45 Barca have "involved their compliance department and an external law firm". In other words, the compliance department is now busy deleting any trails and the legal firm has been hired to defend the corruption charges.

  • @00dude3
    @00dude3 Před rokem +17

    17 years of payments yet they want to blame it all on Barto and ignore Laportas role in it

  • @et2k166
    @et2k166 Před rokem +23

    Now that UCL matches with Arsenal and Chelsea make some much sense. Still a bit confused,why would you pay ref when you have prime messi

    • @DerBruh97
      @DerBruh97 Před rokem +14

      u still dont get it that this negreira ref is not associated with ucl referees right?

    • @et2k166
      @et2k166 Před rokem +8

      @@DerBruh97 if they were paying SOME refs at all why are you so sure that barca wasn't paying ucl refs too? Maybe this will be revealed later, but those ucl matches were obvious fraud.

    • @aperson4057
      @aperson4057 Před rokem +10

      @@et2k166 but as of now you have no evidence that happened in uefa. So no, those games still don’t make sense as the current issue is unrelated to that tournament.

    • @et2k166
      @et2k166 Před rokem +6

      @@aperson4057 on paper you are right, there is no evidence, but if someone has experience of buying referees do you really believe they would do it only in one league?

    • @aperson4057
      @aperson4057 Před rokem +8

      @@et2k166 you have to show that the refs are for sale in each league. A team could potentially buy off refs, but perhaps the league tries to remain fair and this doesn’t happen in their league. Very difficult to show and as of now, we got nothing of that sort.

  • @catversus6777
    @catversus6777 Před rokem +118

    I remember Mourinho once said that the referee favors Barcelona because they were sponsored by UNICEF, now it turns out that he was right but not because of UNICEF but because of bribery LMAO

    • @kaliyuga1476
      @kaliyuga1476 Před rokem +2

      ​@@satyamsaurabh8060 VIVA EL BETIS

    • @danielating1316
      @danielating1316 Před rokem

      @@satyamsaurabh8060 didn't La Liga have goal line technology then?

    • @stoicjedi
      @stoicjedi Před rokem +28

      Barça weren’t sponsored by UNICEF, Barça were the ones to pay UNICEF to use their logos on their kits.

    • @biscuitssix5327
      @biscuitssix5327 Před rokem +8

      Mourinho knows. His instincts easily sense when there's fuckery around.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem +5

      Negative football knowledge

  • @NisarKhan-yr3px
    @NisarKhan-yr3px Před rokem +18

    Summary of the whole story , " Barcelona Paid in service referee chief for consultation and facilitation during La liga Matches " . 😂😂

  • @Chip_Fuse
    @Chip_Fuse Před rokem +120

    I like how the whole of footballing world knows exactly what's happened, and is simply waiting for the deciding evidence to make it into light.

    • @TheSikerad
      @TheSikerad Před rokem +37

      Innocent until proven guilty

    • @injest1928
      @injest1928 Před rokem +4

      ​@TheSikerad legally speaking sure. The public can speculate.

    • @umairsqu
      @umairsqu Před rokem

      @@TheSikerad greenwood is innocent until proven guilty but we all have seen evidence. i can quote several other technicalities of innocent until proven guilty by court of law but we all know the truth. barca is crooked, they turned into the very thing they stood against.

    • @yousifali2569
      @yousifali2569 Před rokem +3

      Did you not watch the vid ? or barca's games before ?

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem

      The Treasury have announced there is no evidence against Barcelona. Infact it's in the favour of what they're saying.
      You can wait for "decisive documents" all you want, you won't get it

  • @leongaming544
    @leongaming544 Před rokem +2

    If barca got convicted with the accusations. Every single trophy they won will be determined non valid. Since they are corrupted, even their players and all the trophies they got will also be questioned since they got them while being in barca.

  • @muhdnorazli
    @muhdnorazli Před rokem +1

    Nothing will happen. 10-20 years down the road it will still be the same

  • @wrldelos
    @wrldelos Před rokem +56

    When the whole world thinks a club is corrupt and then it just so happens that they might be… regardless of the truth it’s hard to believe that the Barca board is legitimate altogether

    • @-Filip
      @-Filip Před rokem +9

      I hope you're talking about Bartomeu and not Laporta, who was not even involved

    • @martinmcmartinezface4243
      @martinmcmartinezface4243 Před rokem +9

      ​@@-Filip Laporta increased the bribes to Negreira, he's also guilty.

    • @k.c.8744
      @k.c.8744 Před rokem +33

      @@martinmcmartinezface4243 damn youtube lawyer at its finest

    • @-Filip
      @-Filip Před rokem +14

      @@martinmcmartinezface4243 he's not even charged. Source?

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem +3

      ​@@martinmcmartinezface4243 and i tripled it. Take me in too

  • @niyiogunro
    @niyiogunro Před rokem +42

    “Barca has launched their own investigation” sure they did 😂

    • @sirravixfourhorn7681
      @sirravixfourhorn7681 Před rokem +8

      Made me laugh, too. Can't wait for it to exonerate them or, at best, find a convenient scapegoat and say he acted alone.

    • @satyamsaurabh8060
      @satyamsaurabh8060 Před rokem

      @@sirravixfourhorn7681 Investigation means they are collecting reports dumb that were prepared by DASNIL...Not to give them clean chit..Presidency has changed from 2016..Laporta will appear before media in April with all the proof

    • @vr6ather
      @vr6ather Před rokem

      Dude you’re black, shut up

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem

      ​@@sirravixfourhorn7681 Scapegoat? If they don't find anything, why will they need a scapegoat?

    • @FaustoTheBoozehound
      @FaustoTheBoozehound Před rokem

      Like OJ searching for "the real killer" 😆

  • @netgoldenbear
    @netgoldenbear Před rokem +6

    What's funny now is Barca fans assume that their club's accused, while others assume that Barca bought refs. There's still no *clear* prove now for both sides.

  • @jestenbuckley476
    @jestenbuckley476 Před rokem

    It was discovered he sent tapes of international games , not la Liga games etc 😅😅

  • @angrytomato5329
    @angrytomato5329 Před rokem +20

    There's certain cases where you don't need a trial and a judge's sentence to know someone is guilty of something. This is an example.

  • @nickeem7997
    @nickeem7997 Před rokem +3

    It's funny a respected publication like the athletic releases reports covering key facts, which are TRUE, but leaves out a key detail from the 21st of March. The Spanish treasury found no evidence that negreira influenced results in favor of barca.

  • @dacke579
    @dacke579 Před 3 měsíci +2

    uefa wont do anything against barca, uefa has always been inside barca pocket

  • @pp-vf8ls
    @pp-vf8ls Před rokem +7

    FINALLY!! you put it on spotlight!

  • @musaddiqmunirliman8267
    @musaddiqmunirliman8267 Před rokem +13

    Why do i feel like this Video was rushed, and didn't provide everything.?

    • @kishansarkar5341
      @kishansarkar5341 Před rokem +10

      This video was nothing but another misleading video.He didn’t even bother to mention that till now no proofs are found against Barcelona and that Laporta has filed lawsuits against those media lawsuits which accused Barca of corruption.

    • @musaddiqmunirliman8267
      @musaddiqmunirliman8267 Před rokem

      @@kishansarkar5341 It's like by trying to not be Bias.. You end up with wrong informations

    • @kishansarkar5341
      @kishansarkar5341 Před rokem

      @@musaddiqmunirliman8267 Agreed

    • @crypto_mbappe3056
      @crypto_mbappe3056 Před rokem

      the title of the video tells you everything. the title claimed neigera was head of referees??? 😂😂😂

  • @benitojayadas1876
    @benitojayadas1876 Před rokem +11

    'For being neutral'- teams have to pay referee?

    • @carletto3319
      @carletto3319 Před rokem

      Some teams get treated more neutrally than others 👍

  • @DavetheDiabetic1
    @DavetheDiabetic1 Před rokem +1

    Hmm so maybe 2011 Barca v Arsenal and PSG v Barca 2017 were pay offs too?

    • @rdt3922
      @rdt3922 Před rokem

      La Liga definitely is so wouldn't suprise me they corrupted the UEFA referees.

  • @kkeith08
    @kkeith08 Před 9 měsíci

    Would love a update on this read a story that Barca are possible getting kicked out of the Champions league.

  • @alexhurst4529
    @alexhurst4529 Před rokem +26

    Best signing they’ve made in years

    • @vr6ather
      @vr6ather Před rokem

      Your mother is next, shame she ain’t worth much tho

  • @isaaccastro4846
    @isaaccastro4846 Před rokem +18

    Also Enriquez negreira said he never received payment from the referees committee because he was already paid by barsa😅, you can look it up, he literally said that

  • @RMcC96
    @RMcC96 Před rokem

    Every single trophy and player records during that period need stripped

  • @yungvandelay965
    @yungvandelay965 Před rokem +28

    Funny thing is that all the information they allegedly paid this guy to gather for them they could have fairly easily gotten themselves without breaking the law and without shelling out hundreds of thousands of euros to this guy every season

    • @johanhalvarsson2148
      @johanhalvarsson2148 Před rokem +7

      And if you actually do pay for those reports the managers really should know about them so they can instruct their players or at least know which of their staff are going to do it.
      There were never any reports.

    • @PlatFlame
      @PlatFlame Před rokem

      @Johan Halvarsson Pretty sure they found the reports during a police raid

    • @miskatabdullah6418
      @miskatabdullah6418 Před rokem

      Tell us the way(they should've contacted you for referee behaviour reports not the referee association themselves) by which barca could easily gotten themselves these reports this would be of help for other spanish clubs too as they do the same thing as a common practice.

    • @danchostanchevyordanov1577
      @danchostanchevyordanov1577 Před rokem

      @@PlatFlame The reports they found have not been singed. Additionally I doubt anyone would pay 500 000 euros a year for a 3 page report on a referee a match. Now Barça has a person to do such reports for 25K a year. I think you can spot the difference.

    • @PlatFlame
      @PlatFlame Před rokem

      @Dancho Stanchev Yordanov I also doubt over the span of those years it was only abt million euros to buy out the refeeres I don't see a world where they would something like this but that's just me maybe if they find some actual evidence

  • @Nickxmw
    @Nickxmw Před rokem +24

    Even if the claim are true they will settle this down for the sake of la liga and Spanish football

    • @gordon1545
      @gordon1545 Před rokem +1

      No, they won't.

    • @snapop200
      @snapop200 Před rokem +8

      It's Barcelona not real madrid

    • @Nickxmw
      @Nickxmw Před rokem

      @@snapop200 bro both real and Barca are needed

    • @Luis-ww8mp
      @Luis-ww8mp Před rokem

      They would if Barcelona wasn’t trying to start the super league

    • @bo4Elite
      @bo4Elite Před rokem

      @@snapop200 😕😟🙁☹😥😢😓😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

  • @utsavmodi75
    @utsavmodi75 Před rokem +13

    Ah!
    Now it all makes sense why Pique always kept on complaining to the referees.
    You gotta earn that money on the field ref.😂

  • @williamross6227
    @williamross6227 Před rokem +1

    This is nothing, Man City bought 6 Premier League Titles…

  • @lsr3794
    @lsr3794 Před rokem +2

    Guardiola looking sus again

  • @sochonik1139
    @sochonik1139 Před rokem +23

    Funny, when Pep feels really comfortable in a club, sooner or later at some point allegations of irregularities or crimes come up about the Clubs. 😉

  • @mihaiconstantin7814
    @mihaiconstantin7814 Před rokem +45

    Quite amazing how this seven-minute video managed to say absolutely nothing.

    • @Ivanmaradonaaa
      @Ivanmaradonaaa Před rokem +9

      tifo's quality has gone down the drain

    • @1998Cebola
      @1998Cebola Před rokem +10

      What did you expect? "In the few weeks since the news broke every single question mark has been answered and court proceedings are finished"? When so much football media makes wild claims with no basis, I find it great that there is a level headed channel were they are very clear with what we ACTUALLY know at this point.

    • @miskatabdullah6418
      @miskatabdullah6418 Před rokem +3

      You guys want Tifo to straight cut accuse a club as corrupt where everything's been already proved by the Spanish treasury that there was nothing such paying refs for on field advantages. Make a list of what else do you guys want. Perez as Americas President, Infantino come out and tell the world that World Cup was rigged for Argentina, All the offside goals real madrid scored in their CL threepeat are legal etc. etc. Lmfao

    • @sydneymunyoro9168
      @sydneymunyoro9168 Před rokem

      Spot on 😂

    • @FlyAs57Passengers
      @FlyAs57Passengers Před rokem

      Yes you’re right. I’m a Barca fan, and it’s not what I’ve heard and read. I think this info is inaccurate.

  • @davec3974
    @davec3974 Před rokem

    0:26 I like how you have up trying to pronounce his name right at the end.

  • @ameenr9129
    @ameenr9129 Před rokem +1

    1:11 - absolutely nothing.

  • @cleevcharles9399
    @cleevcharles9399 Před rokem +13

    they were found not guilty that video has no purpose

  • @wijdensaidani6578
    @wijdensaidani6578 Před rokem +3

    It sounds like you're trying to shine their picture 😂😂 if they really only paid him to be a consultant why did they always pay him through shell companies ? They paid to be favored by referees and now when you go back and watch some of their matches it's pretty obvious, Barça's downfall is gonna be a pleasure to watch 😁😍

    • @user-bc2in7oe3l
      @user-bc2in7oe3l Před 7 měsíci

      The fact that Sergio Ramos could barely finish any el classicos.....I am a neutral and I always found officiating in this matches favourable towards a certain side

    • @maaz9157
      @maaz9157 Před měsícem

      How does it feel after they won the league again lmao 🤣🤣🤣. Just can't accept that you were their dogs in 2010s

    • @maaz9157
      @maaz9157 Před měsícem

      ​@@user-bc2in7oe3land please talk about how many times casemiro got away with red card every game. How many times VADRID players tackled brutally and got away with it.

  • @alboy10madrid22
    @alboy10madrid22 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Don’t forget the fact that laporta said they were paying since NUNEZ YEA……. And also Barca can’t prove what they paid for and THE SOCIOS HAD NO CLUE this money was being spent……and the fact that NEGREIRAs friend and coworker would cash and spend the money using just enough so that the bank couldn’t be involved 900€ each time…….

  • @ajahnpadawan8812
    @ajahnpadawan8812 Před rokem +2

    ‘Mes que un club’ has taken on a whole new type of meaning in the last few years, and not in a good way.

  • @woopeeyoyo
    @woopeeyoyo Před rokem +10

    Do an episode on Balotelli joining Liverpool. It was so random lol

    • @MrSlim98
      @MrSlim98 Před rokem +4

      Pretty sure they have

    • @darkothemapper1826
      @darkothemapper1826 Před rokem

      ​@@MrSlim98 they did, it was "7 horsemen of Luis Suraez" i think

  • @carlosprieto1242
    @carlosprieto1242 Před rokem +8

    Great report. One thing, a very big thing, amiss is that Farsa stopped working with him AFTER he wasn't the vice president of the CTA anymore, would be good to actually put that in

  • @syybie2922
    @syybie2922 Před rokem +1

    do a video on eden hazard and his latest statements

  • @RedPapaG
    @RedPapaG Před rokem

    Explains a great deal

  • @NGSuperStars
    @NGSuperStars Před rokem +27

    It's funny because prior to this video posted, the Spanish Treasury have already made the assessment that there were no evidence of the accusations that were made against them.

    • @sevvvs
      @sevvvs Před rokem +5

      that’s different from UEFA doing the investigation.

    • @martinmcmartinezface4243
      @martinmcmartinezface4243 Před rokem +5

      What do you mean by "the Spanish Treasure"? Both the Spanish Federation and LaLiga have sued Barcelona.

    • @alatamal
      @alatamal Před rokem +1

      That's why they're in charge of taxes and not of the justice. That's an instutional statement to ensure that's no their job to make accusations, the federation, UEFA and Spanish justice however, are carrying the investigation. So no, they aren't saying Barcelona is innocent neither.

    • @crypto_mbappe3056
      @crypto_mbappe3056 Před rokem

      ​@@sevvvs UEFA can only make a verdict when the spanish court give a verdict on Barca being guilty or not. TEBAS took the case to UEFA because only UEFA can punish barca if barca is guilty because la liga is time banned. everything depends on if the court finds barca guilty of sport corruption.

    • @crypto_mbappe3056
      @crypto_mbappe3056 Před rokem

      @@martinmcmartinezface4243 i dont know where you get your news from but i will suggest you change your source. if you say la liga have sued barca? please state the grounds???
      right now the only case is from the prosecutors office charging neigera and rosell, Bartholomeu and other barca directors over corruption.
      la liga can't take actions against barca because there are time banned which is why tebas reported to UEFA for investigation.

  • @gimmibox
    @gimmibox Před rokem +17

    It speaks volumes when this came out and the offender appeared to be Barcelona, everyone went ‘yeah, that makes sense”

  • @konraddapper7764
    @konraddapper7764 Před rokem

    If this is Just a Report. Why would you hiere some one with the Power to Influenz?
    It IS either Insider Trading or corruption.
    Because Public information could have been complied by many other Independent experts

  • @condemnedpotbelly8491
    @condemnedpotbelly8491 Před rokem +47

    This probably goes deeper; remember that Chelsea game?
    I have always said that referees always acted strange in Barca games...
    Like they always seem to treat them better than the opposition

    • @LightNing10000
      @LightNing10000 Před rokem +23

      Laliga referees not ucl 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @MetaFootballTV
      @MetaFootballTV Před rokem +11

      You mean the 1st leg ?

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Před rokem +2

      ​@@LightNing10000 DON'T BE FUNNY. The refs in ucl are chosen from these countries.

    • @untalgarcia2858
      @untalgarcia2858 Před rokem +4

      yeah who knows if there was a "Negreira" at European level...

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Před rokem +4

      ​@@afckajjansi UEFA announces match officials after a background check. Educate yourself

  • @brianfarrell3719
    @brianfarrell3719 Před rokem +4

    How long before we find the brown envelopes tipping the scales for certain EPL clubs ?

  • @khairulmuzzamirmatkassim4500

    Arsenal should win the final UCL. Referees robbed them 2 times

  • @ozzyfernandez8228
    @ozzyfernandez8228 Před rokem

    The legal cases and charges have since been dismissed

  • @adelantericky
    @adelantericky Před rokem +19

    Of course we'll allow for due process, but anyone capable of making an educated observation can note exactly what's going on here. Out of all the consultants they could've hired itw, it had to be one in a position of such power & influence in a competition they're taking part in? I for one doubt that they'll get any major reprimands but here's hoping 🍻

  • @shahriartanvir977
    @shahriartanvir977 Před rokem +18

    to anyone watching La Liga regularly, It was obvious that Barca was being favored. (Unless you were a blind Barca fan ofc.)
    Their UCL scandals would also come to surface if investigated as well.

    • @domitianconsilier795
      @domitianconsilier795 Před rokem

      Grow up VARdrid fan

    • @CarlosRamirez-oq1gc
      @CarlosRamirez-oq1gc Před rokem

      One name: Senes Erzik. That’s the name they have to search for in case they really want to know how referees on UCL favoured barcelona.

    • @ContradictoryAl
      @ContradictoryAl Před rokem +1

      how could a competion with gil manzano, matuo lahoz and hernadnez hernandez be in favor of barca? these refs are literally infamous for being in favor of madrid

    • @CarlosRamirez-oq1gc
      @CarlosRamirez-oq1gc Před rokem +1

      @@ContradictoryAl alex, hernandez hernandez es uno de los arbitros que más ha pitado en contra del madrid. Los otros dos son neutrales, a diferencia del resto de arbitros. Sé que es difícil abrir los ojos, pero anda que toda la info está ya ahí.

    • @MaxStirner-rg3su
      @MaxStirner-rg3su Před rokem

      Barca lost the 2013-14 La Liga season because of an incorrect ofside call. Doesn't sound like being favoured to me.

  • @Plymonk666
    @Plymonk666 Před rokem

    3:26 the three year rule has to be changed. It’s from a time where the winning and losing never cost more. Absolute corruption, corrupts absolutely

    • @crbrearley
      @crbrearley Před rokem

      It's really silly to rescind a championship. The club that "wins" can't really celebrate. Honestly, this is Spain and Real Madrid will likely be found to have something considerably more damning involving referees in the next few weeks.

  • @filipeventura2729
    @filipeventura2729 Před rokem +1

    Do one on Fc Porto and Benfica cases

    • @clintstewart5545
      @clintstewart5545 Před rokem

      or sporting cases , or banks forgiving debts to sporting

  • @rdholyfield965
    @rdholyfield965 Před rokem +54

    Won't be surprised if other 'big' clubs are engaged in similar arrangements with refs

    • @zak__21
      @zak__21 Před rokem +18

      It's not really illegal . It's literally paying for consultancy services. What's this refs track record, how strict is he, what are the things that make him loose his temper. So you know how best to prepare in order to avoid getting booked.
      A lot of clubs do something similar. It's just learning and researching about referees and refreeing decisions. I'm pretty sure they don't even meet the refs, it'd just be analysis of what the person has been doing

    • @ciaranmccormack4434
      @ciaranmccormack4434 Před rokem +30

      Two Barca fanboys 😂😂😂

    • @zak__21
      @zak__21 Před rokem +11

      @@ciaranmccormack4434 read to understand .

    • @Tomwithnonumbers
      @Tomwithnonumbers Před rokem +30

      ​​@@zak__21 the referees union said it was unacceptable to accept payment from a club and anyone currently found to be doing it would be kicked out
      The referee being paid also explicitly said he was being paid to ensure the composition of the competition Committee wasn't 'unfavourable' to Barcelona.
      It's also funny that if this was totally legitimate that the payments were being paid in secret through multiple shell companies. And that people at Barca claimed they were being blackmailed over them.

    • @xwarped83
      @xwarped83 Před rokem +6

      @@zak__21 I read it and understand that you’re a Barca fan boy. It’s funny reading the mental gymnastics that you all go through, reminds me of Trump supporters everytime Trump did something stupid, which is a lot.

  • @RAMOSBHAI
    @RAMOSBHAI Před rokem +9

    The burden of proof is on the prosecutor office not on Barcelona. If prosecutor office fails to provide evidence to the judge then the case will be dismissed and Barcelona even if they are guilty will not be punished legally.
    Also since this matter came to light. I also want to highlight an underrated fact that FC Barcelona had UNICEF sponsorship on their jersey. At that time the chairman of UNICEF was also the President of UEFA referee committee.

    • @mattaddison4794
      @mattaddison4794 Před rokem

      A hilariously corrupt club

    • @nicolasceronm.1678
      @nicolasceronm.1678 Před rokem

      Funny to see petrodollar club fans talking about corruption.

    • @bo4Elite
      @bo4Elite Před rokem +1

      Can you name the chairman you mentioned? I'd like to do some research on it!

  • @crbrearley
    @crbrearley Před rokem +1

    I hate Barcelona but I don't think anything will come of this. A lot of smoke and probably no evidence that referees unfairly favored Barcelona. I think having Messi was enough of a help for any team.

  • @MaxFlow591
    @MaxFlow591 Před rokem +1

    They didn't have receipts? How are they balancing books?

    • @martinmcmartinezface4243
      @martinmcmartinezface4243 Před rokem +5

      Actually they have been caught by tax authorities.

    • @satyamsaurabh8060
      @satyamsaurabh8060 Před rokem +1

      @@martinmcmartinezface4243 Tax authorties lol...The trasury has come out with statement they have no proof that payment were made for refree decision.

    • @MaxFlow591
      @MaxFlow591 Před rokem +1

      @@martinmcmartinezface4243 so it's a fraud. Barca going to pull another lever to make this go away lol.

  • @AmanKumar-gq2qy
    @AmanKumar-gq2qy Před rokem +43

    Always knew something was wrong in that Chelsea game

    • @samsidvars
      @samsidvars Před rokem +1

      the entire matter only resides in the spanish domicile 🤡🤡 also yes, there was something wrong in that chelsea game, for both the teams

    • @andrewjames2808
      @andrewjames2808 Před rokem +28

      This would have no influence over eufa referees

    • @AfterHoursNeon
      @AfterHoursNeon Před rokem +12

      We all did and I'm not even a Chelsea fan

    • @adeniranjohnosh2303
      @adeniranjohnosh2303 Před rokem +8

      There was something wrong with most of their games

    • @bcbitchkkv
      @bcbitchkkv Před rokem +14

      Chelsea 2009, Arsenal 2011 (Van Persie sent off), Milan 2006 (Shevchenko disallowed goal) etc, but those were UEFA games and referees, not Spanish.

  • @gordon1545
    @gordon1545 Před rokem +20

    I love Barca and I can't stand Real Madrid. That should be no barrier to anyone recognising that if these charges are proven, Barca should be stripped of every domestic trophy they won in that period. Cheating can never be tolerated or winning means nothing.
    Barca fans, and past players and coaches (assuming they didn't know about it), should be outraged that all their huge successes have been tainted by what was, even if it's not found to be criminal, obviously dodgy practices.

    • @TheSikerad
      @TheSikerad Před rokem +2

      Why would players and menagers have to pay for it ?

    • @simokojamesphiri7924
      @simokojamesphiri7924 Před rokem +12

      Tifo conveniently left out the part where on Tuesday (as in 2 days ago) the arbitrators of this case found no evidence that Barcelona’s alleged payoffs to Negreira led to result manipulation or influenced the result of any match in La Liga. In act they only found evidence that it was true that Barca had been paying for technical reports that were all done by Negreiras son.
      having said all that, I still think that Bartomeu and Rosell should face some kind of punishment for what they did, it was very unethical and irresponsible of them.

    • @nicolasceronm.1678
      @nicolasceronm.1678 Před rokem +2

      So it is guilty till proven innocent now?

    • @bo4Elite
      @bo4Elite Před rokem

      @@TheSikerad sure you'd say exact same thing if it was other clubs!

    • @bo4Elite
      @bo4Elite Před rokem

      @@simokojamesphiri7924 " Barca are guilty but should not face punishment!" that's what you say?

  • @musicbygoldenj
    @musicbygoldenj Před rokem

    Never trust anyone with more than 3 names

  • @cesareoporras1517
    @cesareoporras1517 Před 5 měsíci

    It's still going on and no wonder barca was in debt...sports gambling have a foothold on most games

  • @ly9163
    @ly9163 Před rokem +9

    These reports on referees were.acctually found in the home of a former barcelona president and there are also other reports leaked by AS, so the reports do exist

    • @AndyO0520
      @AndyO0520 Před rokem +4

      no, the reports that do exist are from the son, not from Negreira

  • @adu2245
    @adu2245 Před rokem +4

    In latest news Spanish prosecutors said they found no evidence of match fixing. During the investigation they found refereeing reports made for many clubs thus proving Barca's statement.
    After this Tebas went straight to UEFA just to get another investigation started and hoping for a ban in europe.
    Uefa will milk this scandal until the last drop as this is the only way the can punish one of the Super League clubs after the latest European court ruling on the competition's continuation.

    • @jr-cq9fx
      @jr-cq9fx Před rokem

      Negreira has already said that the reports were strictly verbal, so those reports are dubious. Furthermore, referees do not change every year, thus it doesn’t make sense why they would need to pay him every year for a period of 10 years. Besides, finding no evidence doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. More then 500k cash was withdrawn from the bank account of Dasnil 95, for which the company can’t provide any invoices.

    • @adu2245
      @adu2245 Před rokem +3

      @@jr-cq9fx no matter how dubious it may sound but you have to remember that Tebas is a UEFA member and he dislikes Barcelona, especially with Laporta as president. They're investigating a case that started off as as false accounting on Negreira's part but hastily reported by the media as match fixing. There were dealings with other clubs but only Barcelona gets the special treatment. Tebas, after stating that Laliga cannot get involved, himself takes the case to EU after investigation in spain cools down.

    • @jr-cq9fx
      @jr-cq9fx Před rokem

      @@adu2245 Can you provide a source in which it is stated that other clubs were also paying Negreira? Furthermore, do you really think Tebas has another option? If la liga doesn’t comply with the rules mandated by Uefa, they will be removed from all European competitions. Is that what you want to happen? I did also like point out that Laporta resumed the payments maid to Negraira after it was initially stopped. This is the reason why Tebas is also pointing the fingers at him.

  • @afellownerd
    @afellownerd Před rokem +1

    tradition, i'd assume

  • @fornamnefternamn5116
    @fornamnefternamn5116 Před rokem +1

    This is so one sided, thought more of the athletic, what about the fact not a single evidence against barcelona has been brought up, or the fact that in a raid by spanish police in an ex barcelona board member they found some of these reports, just as barcelona claimed.
    The one and only difference between barcelona and other clubs in spain is that the company barcelona hired still had an active refere as a part of the company. There is 0 evidence of contact between him and barcelona so it is fully possible barcelona did not even know about it. It’s like me looking through an entire company to see if i have a relative there. All of this has been absurd and pushed by the leauge president tebas.
    You could have made this so much more nuiansed but chose to have the same journalistik integrity as trollfotball.

  • @oppenz3723
    @oppenz3723 Před rokem +5

    At most the punishment will be a slap on the wrist suspended sentence for 3 years.
    Maybe heavier punishment from UEFA if they're willing to open the can of worms prolonged legal battles.

  • @AutopilotAndChill
    @AutopilotAndChill Před rokem +11

    Because it is a farmers league with terrible officiating to go along with the abysmal teams that play in it. They wanted to ensure that they got the calls. It is that simple. Barcelona should be relegated and their trophies in that time should go to whoever was in second place. Ridiculous that this still happens. Especially for a team that so proudly say that they “play the game the way they see it should be played” and that it is “more than a club.” It is absurd.

    • @Lonestarr022
      @Lonestarr022 Před rokem +4

      Not happening, and even if, most of the trophies they lost would go to Real Madrid, and anyone who thinks they are an honest club is dreaming.

    • @AutopilotAndChill
      @AutopilotAndChill Před rokem +2

      @@Lonestarr022 Oh I know. Italian football set a precedent and we can only hope that Spain follows suit, but they are extremely corrupt as well.

  • @johandubon6577
    @johandubon6577 Před rokem +2

    They not only tarnished their legacy but also every player in their squads.

  • @Heelo_0
    @Heelo_0 Před rokem +1

    There is literally no proof tho

  • @emitula10
    @emitula10 Před rokem +8

    anyone who watches La Liga week in and out knows that Real Madrid are the only club that gets help from refs every time.

    • @bo4Elite
      @bo4Elite Před rokem +5

      😥😢😭😥😥😭😭😭😭😭🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😝🤪😜🤣😅😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @emitula10
      @emitula10 Před rokem +2

      @@bo4Elite there are 19 clubs competing against Madrid in La Liga, go ask their fans

    • @bo4Elite
      @bo4Elite Před rokem

      @@emitula10 like you did! 😳🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😭😭😭😭😭😥😭😥😭😥😭😫☹️😩🥺😖😣😣😣😣😣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡😂😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂😂😂

  • @fartimusmaximus8710
    @fartimusmaximus8710 Před rokem +18

    Now they really can be called VARca 😂

  • @Thats-Akumetsu
    @Thats-Akumetsu Před rokem

    Nothing about the Spanish treasury saying they are innocent

  • @janteo1
    @janteo1 Před rokem +1

    during barelona's game versus atletic bilbao the basque fans were chanting " LA SEGUNDA" but i don't think it's low enough

  • @sinnerslight
    @sinnerslight Před rokem +7

    Man, imagine spending the better part of 2010-2018 of barca fans accusing other teams, mostly real madrid (go figure) of "buying refs" only to be the one doing it the entire time. The irony. This also explains a lot of odd decisions during that time period.

    • @crypto_mbappe3056
      @crypto_mbappe3056 Před rokem +3

      Real Madrid buys referee. Everyone know this.
      Neigera is a political move. it has nothing to do with referees over that said time IMO.

    • @WarningBFG-isHiring
      @WarningBFG-isHiring Před rokem +2

      Barca is being investigated and hopefully Real Madrid as well. Those teams are very corrupt but in different ways.