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- Stephen Jackson weighs in on the Michael Jordan/Lebron James debate. But where does Kobe Bryant come into the conversation? He explains to Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe.
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Stephen Jackson: I would take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED
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Where does Kobe rank on the list of all-time great NBA players?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 top 10!
Top 20, borderline top 15
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 top 5 second best player ever kobe Bryant
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No Order
Kareem, Kobe, LeBron
and MJ.
#1
Analysts choose lebron.
Players choose Kobe.
I'll roll with the players.
Exactly, numbers vs experiences. 🤦
Roderick Kearns why do you use the “🤦♂️” like its a bad thing to choose LeBron over Kobe. Everybody has different opinions. If a basketball player has been in a game with Kobe and James, and thinks Kobe is better, it’s okay, he was there to witness them. But we as viewers, or analysts, or fanatics, we have the right to choose whoever we want because we are witnessing both too. On a TV or in a phone not in a basketball court, but that doesn’t mean we can differ with people who know them personally, there is no right answers. You don’t have to be a hen to talk about eggs.
@@alejandromarmolejo13 there's a huge difference in watching and actually doing.
Roderick Kearns but im talking about opinions. Its not like Kobe is 10 times better than LeBron. And also, people tend to rely on former players opinions and dismiss sport analysts, but only for their conveniences or when they share the same opinion as yours. Why does a lot of people hate on Paul Pierce? Because his takes are way different than others, and people jump quick to hate on him (because he really looks stupid some times)... oh but he used to play basketball, isn’t he supposed to know everything? Y’all just roll with the guys who share thoughts with you, don’t come at me saying that “doing” is better than “watching”.
@@roderickkearns3647 I'm going with the analysts on that one.
Finally someone puts respect on kobes name it's like since he retired no one cares for him
im saying from the casters point of view. kobe was in the conversation of being better than mj and as good or even competing with him. now its casters not even saying his name anymore.
Timmy Swaim I remember when they were saying he was the best player in the world.
Timmy Swaim He's always mentioned if you actually dig deeper. LOL
also, since he retired everybody is the GOAT! lol..
nah kobe legacy lives on
Kobe didn't jumped ship to win Championship... Kobe was a straight up killa...
Kobe wanted to be traded and they wanted Chris Paul!#Facts
He didn’t have to
@@sticktothescript8299 he never left tho so whats your point
So because Kobe had better GMs he's better what would've LeBron do in Cleveland
Kobe asked for trade to bulls the Laker just didn't trade him Bron played in Cleveland n please go look at the roster gasol n bynum better the any big the Bron played with outside of AD that include bosh n love cuz least bynum n gasol could protest the rim........one was coached by Phil when Kobe got Mike brown he got him fired let's keep all that in context....
Well at least we know now for sure that Stacks truly is a real one. He was on Kobe's bandwagon long before his passing. Rest in peace Mamba!
Stephen Miller how do that make him real?
U can’t call him a bandwagon when Kobe doesn’t even get the respect he deserves
I think anyone that has kob over bron had that belief looooong before he passed. Only ones who wudda hopped on this so called bandwagon after he passed are kids who only saw bron play n his prime.
@@jkappakj4652 He's a real one because he's a stand up man, putting basketball aside!
Same here, kobe was always my favorite player of all time💯 way b4 his death
Kobe Bryant straight KILLA
tony bray
Yeah killed the Lakers at end of Career
He sure is...
tony bray 24th like is me! damn straight...Kobe Mafia
Worst FG averege in history.
+Liam Dunphy Kobe was guarded a lot more than LeBron. Defense back then was much more physical.
Kobe is the closest thing we have ever seen to MJ and it's not even close.
Sam LeBron better than both of them so I see what you mean.
Sam 👎👎
playstyle not greatness huge gap btween them to
LMFAO
Sam no you idiot, if you talk about offensive style of game then yes, but overall, team and individual accomplishments, it's not even close you fool, Kobe is barely a top 10.
It’s funny how all these commentators pick LeBron as better than Kobe but the actual guys who play the game and have played against both picks Kobe.
David Howard Because they mostly look at one on one skills.
TheAnswerPP no it’s becuz they know kobe is a beast..kobe was on another level bro
TheSaltMaker LeBum is not on MJ’s level lmfao as you can see most players don’t even put him above Kobe
@TheSaltMaker lebum aint in no damn 🐐 convo get out of here its mj or kobe lebron is a bum and will be forgotten while lengends still talk about kobe poimt proven no one wants to play with lebron i wonder why 😂😂😂😂
@JOHNSON DAILY lmao Kobe has never faced a team in finals like okc,warriors or spurs.also hes never dropped 51 against all star team/super team warriors or back to back 40 point games in finals.or blocks or passing assist or IQ or bron
People really need to put more respect on Kobe's defense
Why? It's not like Old Kobe Bryant was good at locking down Prime Lejon Brames... czcams.com/video/8v5wjuSou74/video.html
you do realize you just helped my point?
He's made the first-team all defense more than anyone.
@TheBestMusicOnly nah bro 9 times. 12 times for total defensive teams.
@@saj1484 correct. 9 First team selections. Lebron James 6.
I like how ordinary people are trying to argue with an actual NBA player lol
Marlon Ndoro
I like how you act like it isn't a Debate show and act like this NBA Player create the NBA
Shannon Sharpe Hall Of Famer 2 Time Superbowl champ and gettin paid millions by undisputed
Your ordinary but Sharpe isn't and he laid facts to Stephen Jackson
Marlon Ndoro Michael Jordan thought Kwame Brown had next up. Being a good basketball player and a good judge of talent have nothing to do with each other
BruhItsBunsAlright Lebron James thought Sebastian Tielfer was gonna be a great player. Look where that turned out
I always say the same thing. WalMart workers, Short order cooks and bus drivers arguing with pro players that played in the NBA versus these greats. It's utterly ridiculous
Emile Mency not to mention high schoolers, middle schoolers and kids who do absolutely nothin but play games all day while their parents provide for em. Leave the conversation to the big boys who actually know what their talking about kids 07
Shannon Sharp is in denial
Lol kobe beat the celtics big 4 with just pau gasol.
Grampa Kobe swept LeBron in the east vs west game.
Grampa Kobe !
I think you forgot about Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, Metta World-Peace, Shannon Brown, Trevor Ariza
parallel wick right lol Kobe is my favorite player but don’t disrespect Lebron
He had a great team. You can’t get away with shooting 6-24 in a game 7 if your team “only had pau”.
Lion Y cordero LeBron is 16-5 against Kobe lol
Kobe Bryant is one of the greatest player I have ever seen
I WOULD TAKE KOBE NUFF SAID
Kobe is best over lebron. lower case lebron.
I wait for the day Lebron sits across from Skip and we have the ultimate showdown.... Goku vs Vegeta 🔥🔥🔥
its Dat Boi LeBron is actually a fan of Skip
its Dat Boi Goku vs Hercule, you mean
its Dat Boi your bot vs drop step, made me get drop stepped
appreciate the support fam
its Dat Boi didn't expect to see u here
Kobe Bryant is the closet thing to Michael Jordan, lebron is different he basically karl Malone and magic Johnson
yup
I said the same thing. He do play more like magic
Basically
I think he's more like Magic/ Scottie Pippen
@@celo456937 naw
Id take Kobe even if he has 0 rings
Damn I felt that. I would too. The only thing that matters is mindset. Kobe's mindset was levels above LeBron.
@SoCalifornia29 Kobe at age 21 was more skilled than LeBron has ever been.
@@thsu8 oh yes and lebron at literally everything other age is better than Kobe every was.... not even a comparison bro sorry
@@thsu8 Kobe at 21 was inconsistent
I'd even take high school Kobe over Lebum Lames. 💯
I hate when people say "Kobe can't defend".
Look at how many times he was selected to all defensive 1st team and then tell me can't defend.
The Comment Referee when do people ever say kobe cant defend?
@@joshtrevino969 trust me you'd be surprised
Facts
The Comment Referee He absolutely could defend.
Kobe can lock Lebron more than Lebron can lock Kobe #Facts . and he played in the tougher conference
Anyone that says LeBron over Kobe doesn't know basketball. Prime LeBron locked down by Old Kobe czcams.com/video/8v5wjuSou74/video.html
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Also Kobe played the first half of his career in Jordan's era when the game was more physical...
Paradigm Shift That just shows Kobe is a better one on one player lmao. Lebron is better 5 on 5.
Lebron took advantage of being in the east his whole career. Now he in LA.... They might not make the playoffs
I liked how Stephen said we cant compare Kobe and Lebron, Both different players, different positions.
Shannon always saying “if this” “ if that”
My guy it is what it is .....speak based on the facts
I keep telling everybody... LeBron will never be better than Kobe! 💯💯
***** LeBron forming super teams...Kobe never played with 2 superstars!
***** they didnt win it do it dont matter...Kobe took a average team to the finals 3 times in a row and won two rings! That team was probably the weakest championship team of them all
Kobe is worlds ahead of Lebitch
***** you meant Phil had Kobe? Y'all giving Phil too much credit when he had Jordan, Kobe and Shaq! Pop is the best coach ever! Duncan wasn't better than Kobe?...stop reaching 😂😂😂
I just don't understand, when people prefer Kobe over LeBron people get upset and bring up Shaq & Phil Jackson as if Kobe had nothing to do with Shaq & Phil getting their rings. When people compare LeBron to Kobe it's always about stats. But Kareem numbers are more impressive than MJ & LeBron but somehow no one takes Kareem? Interesting.
I checked and Kareem's overall career average stats and Lebron's are actually a bit better than Kareems (Like 27.6 > 24.6 PER), especially in the Playoffs. Therefore I doubt his *overall numbers* are more impressive than MJ's too.
BiosGod Creator I said Kareem numbers were more impressive, which his overall career numbers are. A few points more does not justify LeBron. My point was there are NBA players who overall body of work is better than LeBron in "numbers" but no one takes them. However when people prefer Kobe over LeBron somehow LeBron numbers are always brought up. But they never do it to other players.
You said *"When people compare LeBron to Kobe it's always about stats"* and then *"Kareem numbers are more impressive"*. But then when I brought up the same stats that *"people"* use that support Lebron > Kobe, you bring up "overall body of work", which is not what people use and shouldn't since LBJ's career isn't over. So it's kind of an off comparison. And it's not just the "few points" that makes him the better player.
BiosGod Creator I understand your side. However, I stick by my original statement. Your right, LeBron career is not over, which means his career stats can increase or even decrease. His stats maybe better than Kobe, but Kobe is still a better player. If majority of the NBA community is saying this which includes the likes of Larry Bird & MJ. That should hint at something. It's not always about stats that was my point.
Kareem is the GOAT
Jordan PERIOD!!! There should be no conversation about this. Kobe never was part of a big 3. Took down a big 4. And could have just as easily been Finals MVP when Shaq was.
What year
KOBE hes a Killa! He would take on anyone!!
it's crazy how so many ex players say Kobe over LeBron, almost as if they know something 😎
they know the truth
Big Ro it's usually players who didn't really win
Big Ro lmfao, can't believe people really think Kobe is better then Lebron like imagine how stupid you have to be.
Connor Smith pretty stupid to believe lebron is better to me.
Connor Smith It's about the mentally of a person, Lebron lifts the team,Kobe is for himself
No one has the individual skills like Kobe that's why he'd destroy almost anyone 1v1
KOBE!!!! I love Kobe and I'm a celtics fan Kobe is better than lebron and Stephen Jackson is right about it and Kobe helped Phil and Shaq not the other way around Kobe is the reason why they had a three peat shaq had no rings in LA til Kobe got there
ultimate gamer assassin Kobe is a killer!
"KOBE HELPED SHAQ" LMAO even though Shaq put up way better numbers than he did. Also Kobe got bailed out by Ron Artest in game 7 while Kobe shot 6 of 24 from the field.
The Legendary One lol look at the stats before the finals, there are games before that too
Ultimate I think both Shaq and Kobe needed each other. Case and point The career highlight play of Shaq’s career was that lob play against Portland when Kobe threw the ball for Shaq to dunk it.
Btw they both came to LA in 1996
Lebron over Kobe is INSANE
Lebron averages more points, rebounds, assist, blocks, steals, FG%, 3PT%, better PER and does it more efficient, lebron is light years better
@@festivalxd1997 if all you're looking at is stats then you're not watching kobe. The man is the closest to jordan. Kobe was a winner and finisher.
LeBron is also better in 4th quarters. Men lie and women lie but stats don't lie
@@raferalstonisgoat4457 stats dont tell the whole story.
@@festivalxd1997 I wouldn't say light years ahead, but Bron is just the better basketball player. People just get enamored w/ scoring, but I get it. Kobe aesthetically had the better looking offensive game. Bron is just more efficient in almost every phase sans free throws.
Skip hit the nail. LeBron choked in 2011. Besides Dirk, the best player on that team was who? Tyson Chandler?
The Mavs were a great team, they same way the Pistons were, when they beat the Lakers. The Heat were great players, wearing the same jersey.
Russell He absolutely didn’t even want the ball in game 4,5, and 6.
SlimDoug Maddox They weren’t great. They were good. Lot’s of role players. Besides Dirk no stars.
@@Teabagonyou Weren't great beat the defending champion Lakers 4-0.
Zyphur7 with 3 injured players including Kobe missing the series before and coming back with a broken finger
If Kobe was on the east coast he would of put up some ridiculous numbers, regular season and playoffs. LBJ is a great player but i would take Kobe to start and finish a game. The thing that separates Kobe and LBJ is Kobe has better foot work and post moves, he even has a better shot and he wont pass it in the last 3 min of the game unless he knows for sure its an easy assist. We cant say that about LBJ. Last point to add everyone says LBJ makes players around him better we could say the same about Kobe because before Pau came the the Lakers he didn't have that killer instinct in him Kobe engraved that in him, he also made made his teammates go harder in practice and that filtered on the games. LBJ great player but as of now i still have Kobe in front of him. LBJ best at his position all time Michael Jordan first at his potion all time and Kobe Bean Bryant second right behind Jordan. Ill even throw this in, D. Wade could be third behind Kobe. So everyone keeps saying how many rings would Kobe have without Shaq when the real question is when would LBJ get his first ring if it wasn't for Wade the third best at his position behind M.J. and Kobe? #YourTrueNBAFan
Jonathan Wynn nah lebron turned chris bosh n kevin love in spot up shooters
Jonathan Wynn well said bro !
exactly bron made them worst and now they are laughing stocks
Kobe on the east would've went to the finals how many times straight before his damn Achilles popped? Ya'll sound stupid Kobe on the east wouldn't even make the playoffs with 2007 Cavs. FOH talking stupid Kobe had Prime Shaq imagine LeBron with a PRIME SHAQ. We got atleast 5, no 6, no 7, no 8 rings.
@@NotLikeUss Please. The eastern conference have had so little competition over Lebron's career there have been teams that made the playoffs with sub .500 records. Even the teams that weren't sub .500 wouldn't even sniff the Western Conference playoffs. It's easy to advance when you're beating up on trash the first 2 rounds every year. Now that LBJ is in the Western conference we see how hard it could have been for him. Those Cavs squads would have been 5-6 seeds every year in the West. Kobe didn't need half of team USA either to cop the next 2 chips. Lebron needed 2 Max players and half of team USA to "feel" like he's ready to compete. The two best players Kobe played with on his second run were Gasol and Odom. Great players but Wade and Bosh? Definitely an upgrade. Bynum didn't even ever play again after leaving LA. I'd argue Kobe did more with less while in tougher waters than LBJ.
Rondo, Ray Allen, Pierce, KG were all on the C's team Kobe beat
*Rondo, Ray Allen, Pierce, KG were all on the C's team Ron Artest and the rest of the Lakers beat because Kobe didn't show up.
Ross Banter you wanna know Kobe's stats for that game 7? 23 points on 6-24. Take that for data!
Lebron complimented that, thats why he joined the heat, Kobe was good enough to do that to win a chmpnship
maz phamm still better than 8 points
Kobe also got 15 rebounds and guarded Rondo... so yeah
I would take Kobe over Lebron. And Michael over Kobe. Done.
Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant
I’d take Bird over Lebron as best SF. Lebron’s all round playing brings good stats but actually hurts teammates’ positioning. Why everyone has to sacrifice stats and fit in his ‘system’? SF should do what SF’s supposed to do, isn’t it?
@@yixu5586 Lebron James is better than Larry Bird for me.
@Saiye Rugara okay... I just personally prefer tough guy mentally more than physically.
@yi xu exactly someone that understands, bron is good yeah but he makes the pg on the floor useless and is listed as a sf , he makes positionless basketball which pushes everyone into 3 pt shooters kind of like Dray in GSW but against hand checking rules that’d be useless therefore Larry would be more useful than bron
RIP to the Mamba. One of the GOATS 🐐
Kobe would've never lost with that Miami team Convo OVER
Kobe is better and closer... So stop it
Better at what? Scoring? Rebounding? Assist?
Don’t understand why they keep talking about Kobe having Shaq and Pau! Why don’t they mention about LBJ’s teammates DWade, CBosh, Kyrie and KLove? It’s stupid!
BeaDomTroy Because Shaq carried Kobe in their first 3 chips, Kobe was not the finals mvp during that time. He only won 2 chips with Pau. Lebron carried Wade and Bosh during his time in miami and won as finals mvp back to back and also carried cavs 2015-2016.
DaRomeo no
Russel Llabores how did he carry Kobe if Kobe averaged 29 points and Shaq averaged 30 lol . By your logic curry was carried by igoudala and by Durant knowing damn well curry averaged 30 points per game lol. Your really don't know basketball
Sharpe must have forgotten that Kobe was an elite defender when he talks about Kobe like he's only a scorer. Kobe even had more selections than Scottie Pippen.
Shannon acts as if he also played against both Kobe and LeBron 🤦 I'd take Stephen Jackson's opinion over some analyst that never played in the NBA 🤷♀️
Kobe is a freakin beast, with and without Shaq. Everyone will always try to discredit him. He won twice without shaq. Hater would say "yea but he had Pau Gasol". Did LeBron not have help when he won in Miami? Also, LeBron did have Shaq, twice lol hahahaha
Shay Butta Kobe lost with a Prime Shaq...... While Karl Malone and Gary Payton was on his team.....
yeah kobe just lost with shaq karl malone and GP... oh and since you disregarding injuries and prime dont forget he lost with a squad of steve nash, pau, metta and dwight
No, hater would say he had Gasol, Lamar and Bynum. Plus that wasn't Shaq anymore that was Shaquille O'Neal
Dondrey Taylor he had a washed up Shaq you no brainless idiot.
The Seahawks didn't run the ball Karl was out then they lose. If Karl is not injured, they win
"Kobe could score the basketball, but he probably shot 3 or 4 more times than LeBron"
Kobe career FGA: 19.6
LeBron career FGA: 19.5
lol ok
RahulPresentsKobe oh they shot the same amount, Kobe just averages less points and made less shots because he's not as good.
+Meely lol ok
This is actually wrong Lebron averages 19.6 FGA to kobes 19.5 FGA. So lebron shoots more
Meely right so with your own 2 eyes kobe is not as good..lets see LeBron avg 30 with a dominant center clogging the lane
RahulPresentsKobe first 4 years kobe wasn't even attempting shots. that's why bron career avg higher than kobe
Professional basketball players would have the best judgment on who's better because they played at this high level
Exactly
July Stylez And played against the guys they speak about unlike Shannon. Who is apparently a basketball expert now. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
to be the greatest you cant take shortcuts. kobe stayed in LA weather is good or bad.meanwhile lebron take shortcut to win a ring by joining wade and bosh.
lebron would never had a ring if it were not for dwane wade chris laboch
But it takes a"team" to win a title..no team in history has done it with just one player
Drafted to the historical great Lakers(even tho they hadn't won a title in ten years the still was the Lakers with Shaq) in la ran by buss fam in la where everyone moved for a better life a owner who had no problem paying players n was coached by Phil also not drafted to be the savior or drafted to save a town n team Cavs in Cleveland ran by Daniel Gilbert who the first time around wouldn't spend any money on any good players 03 - 10 yo best teamate was big Z or maybe Larry Hughs n best coach Mike brown( the same one Kobe got fired in his prime) y'all comparing apples to orange two different style of play n two different builds of player....
That’s because Kobe played for the lakers. They’re known for great management.
@@Abbad1579 and had Superstar Shaq. How many losing seasons did the Lakers had with Shaq again
Lebron ran to Miami to ring chase then tried to run back to Cleveland to a Kyrie Irving and multiple tradable 1st round picks to get a Kevin Love for a new big 3 once he felt like he couldn't win with Miami anymore. He tries to stack the chips in his favor every year now the non competitive way. He wins with talent and not with heart
If you could win with just heart Ewing, Miller, and Iverson would have a few rings too.
Rishi Kalia lol facts best comment
It's actually very smart what he did. He had his best interest in mind and he wanted to fulfill his promise to Cleveland. That wasn't going to happen though with the team he had before... they were incredibly underpowered. Maybe a 30 win team at best without him. He wanted to get championship experience with a good team to become an even better leader than he was previously. He also knew that the team would tank and get better with him gone and in his return they would become a great team. He was tired of coming up close but not having the pieces he needed in Cleveland.
Say this if Shaq was not in the lakers with Kobe. Kobe would not have as many rings it's not about the team change it's about the players that were there u can't say lebron James is worse than Kobe just because of the rings. Compare it to Allen iverson. He never got a ring and he was in like 4 different team no rings
Dalitszz stop
Kobe is better than Lebron
Yes he is.
💯
Nomad 47 should be, Kobe better overall and all-around than Lebron. less help, not a bunch of all-stars in their prime
At what ? Getting carried by shaq.
Liam Dunphy Shaq didnt carry him, there was no legitmate center for Shaq to play against. Name the centers shaq played in the finals that actually mattered? You cant.
Shannon Sharpe is paid to be an antagonist. I still believe that. His unrelenting drive to prove Bron is the greatest player the NBA has ever seen, not one of the greatest but “GOAT James” has just become so repetitive that it feels like theater
Kobe was the last of the old type of players.
Jeremy James well Kawhi is now
if lebron never left his team he wouldn't have any rings
I doubt that for some reason. It was js a matter of time until Cleveland becomes a superteam.
Henry Tran If lebron never left then they wouldn’t have gotten Kyrie
El Chapo if Kobe didn’t have shaq he wouldn’t have any rings if if it
Albert edmond But he won 2 without shaq so you really can't say that.. What has LeBron won without a closer?
Gabriel Bennett game 7 vs the Celtics go watch what Kobe did and the only reason he won in 09 bc kg got injured and no one could compete with them I love Kobe no doubt one of my fav players but everyone needs help
If I could find someone who loves me like Shannon loves LeBron, I would be a happy man.
I know a homeless guy you would like. He just want you to buy him alcohol in return.
Let this fact sink in: Kobe made it to the playoffs with Kwame brown and Smush Parker. If it was Lebron he would cry about it and demand help.
In the west
Lebron took the cavs to the finals with a bunch of nobody’s in his fourth year in the league
hee made the playoffs then what?? LMFAO Lebron made the FINALS with a way worse team and woulda won a momentum changing game 1 on the road if it wasn't for Jr. Kobe can't be compared to Lebron it's not even close. he's still a legend and an all time great tho,RIP.
@@youngerudit2524 he (kobe) made the playoff and won two rings with smush and kwame. Maybe you forgot
@@himmothy111 but now he's on the west and hasn't won much still? Lol I guess all those losses catches up with his legs and he has 4 rings. He maybe ahead of Hakeem or Dr j but I still say he's not ahead of magic or Kareem the disrespect has to stop. I don't think lebron has fully surpassed Duncan who's whooped him twice in the finals and the fact the warriors have bested him 3/4 should end the goat debates especially since he joined a superteam himself
I died when Shannon said "Man I can't believe you sit up here and said that jack"!😭😭😭
Jordan = 6 out of 6
Kobe = 5 out of 7
Lebron = 3 out of 7
Enough said. Lebron skill set doesn't even belong in the same conversation with Mj and Kobe. Stats mean nothing. I watched Kawhi Leonard make Lebron look like a D league player in the finals, no one ever locked down Mj or Kobe in the finals.
Xxerict808xX also tone all that emotion down, its not that serious mi yute.
Xxerict808xX I'm not about to read that emotional fairytale you just typed. Bottom line 3 out of 7 chips vs. 5 out of 7. Would of been 2-7 for Bron but the league saved him last finals. Stop bitchin fassey! I rather have rings than fancy meaningless statistics, he's going to go down in nba history for the most nba finals lost.
Xxerict808xX Oh yeah I forgot they play for stats, players don't play to win rings, what was I thinking, for some dumb reason I thought they had the nba playoffs to compete for a ring, mybad mi yute. So all this time, they were just playing for stats, so they can say they are the best player. You must of ate paint chips when you was in kindergarten because you're slow, you're the kind of slow that make me believe your parents was first cousins.
Talkditings dem so let's get another point of view. Is Derek fisher, who has 5 rings, better than Lebron, who has 3 rings??? This makes Derek fisher equally as good as Kobe? Thank you so much for clearing that up for me.
Robert Horry = 7 rings so whose better than 7
Lebron is not even in conversation with Kobe in terms of Game on the court, Lebron plays in east his stats look good, but on the court he is not as polished, not a confident shooter, keep him from the rim and he is average.
That's why he beats him in every stat....
Noah Caucasus keep him from the rim and he passes and creates open shots for his teamates. Can rebound and is a floor general and a team leader. I doubt someone can keep him from the rim tho.
ur an idiot
Damn this aged poorly. Not only is LeBron 1st in the West, but he also has a higher shooting % than Kobe. RIP Mamba.
LeShannon yelping like a little girl after hearing another man speak highly of his boo
somebody tell me wtf “All around player” means. All around to me means both sides of the ball 🤷🏾♂️ Kobe a better offensive and Defensive player than Lebron soo that should be the end of it
How is he better on offense, I can't really even say Kobe is even a better scorer, since Bron is averaging more points, but defense, absolutely
And lebron still greater
I miss the time when NBA was about watching the game, not the stats. Anyone who actually watches the game would know that Kobe was the closest thing to Michael Jordan (both are SG, so it is natural). LeBron plays on a different position (SF/PF), so it is actually kind of impossible to compare them
you can compare them by their killer instinct though, in which Bron had zilch. S. Jackson said it best.
1:50 Actually, people have looked it up, and over their careers, Kobe and LeBron averaged the same amount of FGA's, although Kobe did average 0.7 more FGAs in his prime than in LeBron's prime. #facts
People just stay hatin on Kobe since he retired smh. They forget how much of a monster and killer he was for YEARS before all the injuries and age brought him back to Earth. I honestly don't even know how much basketball Shannon watched during Kobe's prime, cause at certain points it just sounds like he's making things up as he goes just so he can win an argument
Why are championships important? Because its a team sport. Its not tennis!!!
ok but kobe won rings without shaq
Yet the two teams he won with in both 2009 & 2010 had way more fire power and front court help. I guess that just shows how great Shaq was
I'd take Tim Duncan ovver lebron
tyranitarxd ,u can take jvale Mcgee over bron,cuz ur bron hater😂
tyranitarxd too far
I'd take Terry over leflop drama queen
tyranitarxd DAMM
Duncan way better than lebron.
KOBE THA BLACK MAMBA> LBJ
Always kept it real 💯
NBA players know who is scarier to play against. They will say that they respect Lebron to the max, but they will almost always say that Kobe is scarier.
Kobe over Lebron all day and every day.
Kobe ain’t greater
Stephen Jackson is my dude man! When I worked for The New Jersey Nets Stephen was like a brother to me.
I agree!
Media pushes Lebron. Why is there even an argument from a a pure talent and winning mentality standpoint. Kobe.
Replace Kobe with Lebron on the 08-10 Lakers and the Lakers would not win a ring, let alone make 3 straight final appearances.
DirkTha88
Lmao Kobetard alert
Give LeBron Frontline of All Star Bynum and Gasol with versatile 6th Lamar Odom with Defender All Star Ron Artest with Phil Jackson and LeBron would win 3 Rings with those Lakers
If LeBron can make NBA Finals with 0 Hall Of Famers in 2007 he can win with Lakers team in 2009 an 2010
2007 Cavs that LeBron got to NBA Finals with no Hall Of Famers lol Kobe would have lost EFC to Pistons and Kobe wouldn't even make NBA Finals
DirkTha88 blasphemy kobe never had a super team.
since when did Bynum, gasol, and odom become hall of famers???
Facts boy
that's on paper. Most people don't even remember these guys being that good. Without Kobe that team would have never made the finals. Did you even watch during the games how Kobe was coaching (literally) Pau and Bynum on how they could draw the defense and better perform their pick and roll. That's something Lebron doesn't have. The knowledge and the defense Kobe had, even during his last years in the league he was still a better defender than LeBron is. If you saw the Finals you'll know what I mean
"I'm not a Phil fan"
Skip: Thank you 😂😂😂
STATS MEAN NOTHING!
3PLE DOUBLES?! 35, 9, 8?! MEANS NOTHING IF YOU DONT WIN.
TITLES OVER RECORDS! 6-6, GOAT! 5-7, CLOSEST EVER. END OF DISCUSSION! ✌
6 wins 0 defeats MJ
5 wins 2 defeats KOBE
3 wins 5 defeats LBJ
Hey sharpe, how many rings would lebron get if he didnt transfer to MIAMI>??
Mark L 0. Every team he's on players get worse. He needs to stop trying to coach.
Great question
Hey! How many rings would Kobe get if Phil Jackson didn’t coach the Lakers?
Archx Real lol players play the game.. if anything Phil held Kobe back
Gabriel Bennett Yes players play the game but this is NBA! No matter how good the player, he can’t win more title without a great coach.
Kobe can’t bring the Lakers to the Playoffs without Phil Jackson. In 2004-2005 season when Phil Jackson didn’t coach the Lakers, The Lakers missed the playoffs for the first time in Kobe’s career. Even though Kobe finished second in scoring but still not enough to bring the Lakers to the Playoffs.
Kobe can’t make playoffs without Phil Jackson. Kobe needs Phil Jackson. Lol
The most important aspect of a player can't be found on a stat sheet. CLUTCH. Kobe is probably the greatest scorer under pressure or with seconds remaining on the clock than anyone ever. LeBron, not so much. I'll take Kobe any day.
Alex Snowberg he missed all those shots under pressure
Lebron is more clutch than Kobe
This is like comparing a long board to a inline skates. Or like comparing running to swimming. Or so it feels.
LeBron lost 2 more Finals and missed the playoffs since this 😂
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And still greater then Kobe
And won 1
KOBE over Lebron, no doubt.
Maize And Steel in your dreams lebron is better in 3pt%rebounding assisting scoring the only thing kobe is better in free throws
Currys Abusive Dad Who would be in your top 10? I'd be willing to bet you have Magic in there...Magic himself says Kobe is the greatest Laker ever. Therefore, better than him all time as well.
Curry also said Allen was the best 3 point shoother ever...but we know that Curry is that guy. So whats your point
+Aziz Lebron plays small ball with 3 shooters. He's 6-8 & one the best & smartest slashers.
He's supposed to rebound & pass doesn't mean he's better than kobe
Yes
Shaq was never the closer, he needed Kobe for that. Lebron is not a closer. Shaq and Bron would not win many rings if any coming out of the west.
exactly what I be saying that Bum has NO half court game at all. Closing Hunger Ice water in the veins never say die in their veins mastering their crafts is what made KOBE AND MICHEAL Greatest Of All Time
Paul Mic lmao yea they wouldn't need to close. And lebron closed out the pistons and a few other teams
and when they couldn't do it, Big shot Bob came in the CLUTCH
Kobe average 15ppg and won stop it
This is by far the dumbest comment I have read on CZcams since I’ve used the app
1.Kobe
2.Mj
3.Kareem
4.Magic
5.Larry
Why lebron on their list? Hmm i dont think so lebron isnt even top 10. He is top 20 of all time.
Get the fck out of here
Terrible list..... Just terrible. 😅
Remember in more than half the time I’d say most of the time most players choose Kobe over Lebron . I think I’d take a actual nba players choice much more serious than those who aren’t . Kobe = 🐐
kobe is a better player in every way then leflop payed off reff james
lebron averages more ppg, apg, rpg higher % in the field more mvps more finals mvps only thing kobe got over lebron is rings and he wasnt even the best on his team 3/5 of them
kobe has the most missed shots in nba history and lebron is 3rd all time scoring list and has a pass first mentality, one of the best passers of all time and the best in the league right now in his first season as a point guard
Kade Hanley passing? Look at his turnover ratio. Averages 4 turnovers. I would hope he averages more rebounds since he’s way bigger. Kobe has the most missed shots because he played shooting guard longer than anyone, while lebron plays in a cupcake era and scores. Lebron has melted down WAYY more. Lebron gets his finals in a weak east, now in the west he’s missed the playoffs and will lose before the finals again. Those finals appearances are overrated. Kobe’s stats in first finals were down because he got injured purposefully and in game 4, when Shaq fouled out, he closed the deal in overtime and carried them. That’s without saying how great kobe was in the western conference finals against Portland when he carried them, including the 4th quarter of game 7 when they were down 15. In 2001, he averaged 25, 6, and 5, and in 2002 he averaged 27, 7, and 6. Lebrons more efficient because he plays in an era where everyone is efficient. Now do me a favor and use stats with context, not without.
@@kadehanley7639 if your only logic is to go by stats then hows this one kobe 5 and 2 and leflop 3 and 6 with super teams in a weak conference.
Westbrook just averaged 30 ppg and a triple-double for the season! LeBron's NEVER done that. Yet I don't hear one person saying Westbrook is the best player in the league. So obviously stats aren't that important. Well, if stats aren't that important then all that's left are championships and the mark you left on the game and it's fans.
he will still lose. he was a choke artist back then.
He's not efficient he's just the only good player on a team potentially a lottery team without him. #took34shotstogetit
All those triple doubles because he's a selfish player.
Oh, and how many rings does Westbrook have?
Yeah, nuff said.
Anthony Mercado -
Basketball is a team game. Lebron has made people on his team BETTER. Lebron can do everything! Westbrook just attempts to carry his team which sure is impressive but they would have better luck with teamwork...
rockafelladw his triple doubles are slightly overrated. He has the highest percentage of leaving his man open for a shot AND his team seriously dodges out of the way of an EASY rebound to give it to Westbrook. Not the impressive
Damn hits more now that he’s gone R.I.P. my idol
Black Mamba Forever!
stats doesn't proves who is a better player Bruh I'm tired of that. who is the better player kobe. LeBron fans hate to admit that they always go to the stats. LeBron have never been hurt like kobe during his career, LeBron will always have better stats bc he had a better team and to be honest he don't even have to shoot the ball like that. Kobe had to shoot all those times and those that call kobe a ball hog let me go to the facts here Yall remember when kobe blew a 3-1 league to the suns in the series. He stop shooting so he prove the world his team is nothing without him. kobe stayed with one team during his career he proved that he could win WITHOUT SHAQ. Let's see If LeBron James can without 2 all stars.
If you LeBron would've stayed with Cleveland at the beginning when he wasn't winning and plus he had to shoot all the time his stats would've been just like kobe.
Kytelon Barksdale Who has the most missed shots? And also, Lebron has more points with less shots than Kobe. Kobe had Pau and Fisher during his time also.
search their one on one stats guarding each other then slap it to every lebitch legay lechoke lesoft leflop lebald fans out there
joebert jumawid
Except Lebron is 16-6 against Kobe for his career.
Kytelon Barksdale stop watching basketball bruh.,........Kobe is nowhere near LeBron or Mj
#1.Jordan=🐐
#2.Kobe=BlackMamba
#10.Lebron=🚽🗑
Dominic dominic 5>3
KD > Kobrick and LeBUM
Dominic dominic, but all you gus say that rings don't count. Now you are counting final mvp
@@nolimitmiller 3 FMVP > 2
Dominic dominic Lolol 5-2 vs 3-6
This is a great video!
Top 5 NBA Players Of All Time
1 - Michael Jordan
2 - Kobe Bryant
3 - Larry Bird
4 - Magic Johnson
5 - Tie, Take your Pick
Kareem Abdul Jabber
LeBron James
Shaquille O’Neal
I’m 45 years old and those are the best players I’ve ever seen play the game. This is just my opinion. Discuss
Bron at 7?? Wtf lmao
Skip lowkey in love with lebron lmao
What ? You mean Shannon ?
That's white men Jealousy. Skip has no white men to compare to Lebron, so he tries to put him down; racist and Hypocrite.
He isn't racist at all. Whenever he puts LeBron down isn't he always saying a different black man is better?
Petit Pè you that guy that always gotta bring up race
You just don't get it; naive. He just doesn't have any white man to compare to Lebron.
Top 5
1.Jordan
2.Bryant
3.Kareem
4.Magic.
5.Lebron
NightCrawler 99 agree
NightCrawler 99 faxx
NightCrawler 99 this list will change in 5 years. #5 moving up!
Wrong.......
1 MJ
2 LBJ
Magic...Bird.... Olajuwon.....Shaq.....Duncan..... Wilt......Kareem.......Malone...... Barkley.........Wade....... Dominique.........Durant......Iverson........if not for injuries .........Penny.....GHill..... Tmac.......Kobe is a second option that shoots too much.......nothing more nothing less........he does not rank anywhere near MJ or LeBron or inside the top 10 or 15 of all time......rings are a team accomplishment...everyone who has a ring had help..... EVERYONE......the media has consistently overhyped Kobe and those who do not know basketball have bought into it
Neil Ft You put Iverson, Wade, Barkley and Durant over KOBE?!? Major L
that end story about mike.....savage !! haha
Crazy how times are now in this world
Why does Savanna Sharpe keep talking about Jordan be swept in the 1st round when LeBron got swept in the finals. Smdh
Lebron will lose in the 1st round too, now that, he is in the west playing for the lakers.
Savanna sharpe.lol
@@mikitaskov873 worse, he didnt make the playoffs even after activating his playoff mode.
How is it worse to get swept in the finals than the first round that makes no sense
@@Noors14 Context dude. Jordan was swept by great teams (twice by dynasty team) in FIRST three seasons in the NBA. It was also a best of 5 series not best of 7. It was like rookie to junior lebron facing the San Antonio Spurs in the first round of the playoffs in a best of 5 series! Also the finals is the main event, biggest stage, national and worldwide TV event where the best of the east meets the best of the west. Not the 8th seed meets the 1st seed.
Kobe over LeBron without question
The craziest players to ever play in the NBA are literally picking Kobe all because of how fearless he was on the court
Kobe is way better then lebron period, Kobe is a GAME WINNER!!! lebron is a cry baby of all time!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
the way Jackson explained his point is legendary
All day Kobe bean Bryant
Rest in paradise Brother...
Well he ain’t greater then lebron
KOBE FOR LIFE🙏🏻❤️ Bless you Stephen Jackson
All the nba players know wassup with Kobe
Especially Lebron
G Malco Exactly
Magic takes Lebron top 5 he has never said that about kobe. Doc Rivers as well... Isiah thomas has also..
WOWOWOWOWOWOOWWOWOWO I am sure Kobe is in Magics top 5.Magic even thinks Kobe is better than him he calls Kobe the Greatest Laker Ever And even MJ,the greatest player ever thinks Kobe is better than Lebron
Finally some truth from a former nba player, alot of guys and especially the broadcasters, want to have the viewers on their side so they'll do whats popular and gets their approval. But Kobe still is and was better than Lebron. They never got to face each other in the finals, but if they did Kobe would've when been happier than anyone cuz he begs to challenge anyone who thinks they can beat him, and it woulda been personal. Some people shine in the Finals, it woulda taken 12 flagrant fouls, two injuries, and a stretcher to keep Kobe from taking lebron out in the finals
arronnov imagine if Kobe was surrounded by "great" shooters in a weak east......hmmmmmmmm
Charles Doss shooters are useless with kobe team he isnt passing the ball hog to his tea mate😂
jerwin lacoste not true...he had no-one to pass"to"....surrounded by d-league players most of his career...
.when he had "1" decent teammate...shaq/gasol....he delivered 5/7......there is a Reason....most NBA teams complained when Lakers try to acquire Chris paul.....Kobe most likely would have added to his "rings".....and would "still" be playing if he had talent around him to shoulder the load......Kobe= best I ever seen
Real talk, LeBron shies away from challenges, which is why he loves creating stacked teams in the East.
strikehair55 I absolutely agree bro Kobe will always be a killer and a threat to the game... who ever he plays looks at his 81 point game and his 40 point games in a row. He is absolutely a beast and a freak of nature
“You like scoring”
No Shannon, he likes winning.
Its crazy how real nba players who played with/against Kobe or Lebron would pick Kobe🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
anyone who thinks lbj would run kobe off court a damn fool. CZcams 2012 and 2013 all star Game when kobe plays seriously against lbj. also stats lie so much. lbj is more efficient but that doesn't make him better as a player. rebounding and passing is the only 2 attributes better. kobe got footwork, post, outside, jumper, free throw , better perimeter defender (12 time all first team defense), tougher mentally, killer instict. Shannon is so biased. if you say mj the goat and the goat even says kobe better then what's the debate