First EVER LeBron vs Jordan Debate With Stephen A. Smith & Shannon Sharpe | EP. 85 CLUB SHAY SHAY
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- Stephen A. Smith & Shannon Sharpe go at each other's throats during LeBron James vs Michael Jordan GOAT debate. Whose side are you on?
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Stephen A. Smith on Skip Bayless, First Take, LeBron vs Jordan & More With Shannon Sharpe | EP. 85
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The biggest LeBron and Jordan supporters going at it 😂
Have you heard of skip bayless???
@@georgetyler6823 We don’t say skip name 😂
Skip is Jordan's biggest supporter
@Dub257 Yes we do.
No lol the biggest lebron hater vs biggest lebron supporter
I love this. It’s like listening to your uncle’s argue in the living room on thanksgiving 😂.
Every year 😂😂
difference is my jacked uncle at one moment says i will slap you for talking shi7 :D
@@michelestoichkov4512🤣
😂😂😂😂, this my daddy and brother
yeah - where one uncle is totally drunk and talks rubbish
One of the healthiest and most respectful sports debates I’ve ever seen. They let each other talk, they agreed on certain points, and they let each other express their disagreements, with mild to almost no interruption. I’m glad Uncle Sharpe is able to bring out out this side of SAS.
Thanks to steph A smith cause the other guy was screaming and interrupting all the time
Shannon with "Magic was 73!!" With the eyes big took me out!! 😂😂😂😂
took me out as well 😂
But in all reality he was only 32 lol
Magic was the MVP of the league in 1990. 🤣
Someone was in the background laughing hard😂😂😂
only 32? LMAO most of players at this times was to old what you mean@@MrSantee2000
To be honest, SAS having LeBron #2 and debating Shannon on why he's not #1 makes sense, vs Shannon debating Skip who thinks LeBron is barely in the top 10 all time
Bron isn’t even 2
Yall casuals don't even know that Shannon is paid by clutch sports to lie to everyone and say LeBron is the goat.
@@ClutchGeneyour bugging
@@jmoney6043but its not a lie lebron is goat go cry about it
Kareem better, magic better, Kobe better
the fact they're letting each other speak is amazing.. great debate fellas 👏🏾
😂😂
It's not a great debate when Shannon's only response to facts that destroy his side of the debate is "yeah, but..." He's basically admitting that he's lost the debate when he can't defend his stance against facts.
@@kenrichorton6863😅😮😮
@chriscampbell8074 facts but at least they're making sense instead of Shannon debating with Skip.
@@chriscampbell8074Steven a is the one repeating Shi
I could watch this ALL DAY😂
I wish they could be at my thanksgiving table
Me to 💯
Arguing if it’s stuffing or dressing….
@@baritonebroker”it was touching the turkey, neva went in it! NEVA!!!”
"Right now you get called for passing gas" 😂😂
“I didn’t hear you say that when Magic was here”😂😂😂😂 Stephen A really showing that there’s levels to trolling
Had me crying yo 😂
Magic was 73 😭
My man does his research 😂
O😊ooo
That was a body check 😅😅😅
Stephen A- “He beat Magic”
Shay- “HE WAS 73!”
That killed me honestly 😂
Let's get the facts straight. Yeah The Bulls were a beast of a team but that was a Lakers team that was injured. Kareem was out he might've been retired at that point, no James Worthy. Now if the Bulls played against a healthy Lakers team with an active Kareem at 38 years old we might to singing a different tune but it is what it is.
😂😂😂
@@MentalStillness if when but who where, we can do this all night long. If Arvydas Sabonis came to the league in 1985 as he was drafted we would've seen Clyde Drexler and prime Sabonis in 1990s final vs the Bulls and they might've killed Michael.
@@MentalStillnessinjuries happen almost every finals. That's not a excuse
Smith rebutted nice though, “you didn’t say that when he was here though.”
They are both spitting facts that’s why this the most valid GOAT debate ever to be televised
Not even close, Jorden is the Goat all time 6 time undefeated NBA Champion. And Kobe’s right under him now we know LeBron is under Kobe when it comes down to it. In any sport it’s about the championship rings. That’s what makes Tom Brady, the goat as far as an NFL quarterback because of his championship wins. That’s the whole thing that they strive for is to win a championship and LeBron is stuck at number three now once he becomes a five time NBA champion then he’ll go up to Kobe‘s level, but until then he’s stuck in the number three slot
@@jasonryan9659bro winning a ring is a team accomplishment. Jordan lost the first 7 years cause he had no help.
You can use numbers but era's change and the most important measure of a players greatness is their greatness in realtion to their peers. Jordan was the best player of his era by a huge margin, no one came close. Lebron was the best player for a number of years but it was never clear cut. Jordan got 30 when 25 was elite...there's currently 17 players averaging 25+ >>in 93 when Jordan got 32 there where 5.
@jasonryan9659 Wouldn't Robert Horry or Bill Russell be above Jordan then? Both of them are over six rings
@@jasonryan9659 you are delusional for even having kobe top 5, might be stupid for saying he's 2.
I don’t always agree with Stephen A Smith, but he killed it in this debate with knowledge, facts, and common sense.
I’m a LeBron fan, but I can’t lie, Steven A. won that argument. 🤦🏾♂️😔
No he didn't. Stephen A is just a much better talker and journalist. That's it!!
No he didn’t 😂 all he said was 6-0…. And that’s a team accomplishment
@@breal6592more finals mvps more mvps more scoring titles more dpoys more 1st team all defense none of those are team accomplishments tho lmao
My question is why do people talk about 6-0 but never mention how many times he didn't even make it to the finals mfs avoid it like the plague.
@@SouthJerzVillains On a weak era.
Saying Jordan didn't play anybody is disrespectful to the top 75 players that he beat to win those championships.
Which one he beat in the NBA FINALS not the era
Exactly
So which one is as good as the spurs dynasty or the warriors dynasty? That’s no one
@@mattsell2361Jordan was the dynasty. Lebron never was
@@patcisz3474 tell me was the Chicago bulls a stacked team with a lot of good players or did Jordan carry the team to a championship every year
“You should’ve hung up on him” made my night 😂😂
“I’m not emotional!”
Yells the whole time 😂
“When emotions is high common sense is at an all-time low.”
1988, Michael Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year and the scoring tile (35 PPG).
That same year, Jordan also collected every major individual accolade:
- MVP
- Defensive Player of the Year
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Star Starter
- All-Star Game MVP
- Slam Dunk Champion
- Scoring Leader
- Steals Leader
WITHOUT MISSING A SINGLE GAME
This will end the debate.
@@lolipopi503eh not rly. Everyone knows bron was robbed of DPOY in 2013
@@lucasphillips2177 that would only be one compared to MJs 9?
And still went home early😂
Finals MVP too?
The chemistry between these two is instantly great no surprises there
SAS show more professionalism, Shannon still annoying as the same
Kooooobbbbeeeeeeeeeee
Stop that bs
Oh they are very Good friends & it shows.
its so fun watching them talk
That part got me when Shannon said " Magic was 73!"😅. Love my dudes Shay Shay and Stephen A.👍
Came down the comments looking as soon as it happened
i swear🤣
I’m still laughing at this
@@rossmccay At 32 most are retired kid😂😂
@@Clightflightwhite Most aren't second in MVP voting either
I love this. No bad blood, just a debate between two passionate supporters.
❤
In the last 50 years, Career Résumé - Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles/ All-Star MVPs)
1st: Jordan = 49
2nd: Kobe = 34
2nd: LeBron = 34
4th: Kareem = 31
5th: Duncan = 29
…
You can debate 2nd-5th place but Jordan is so far ahead of everyone else…it’s not even close. Also the most amazing thing is that Jordan accomplished all this while playing in at least 5 years less than the other players
…
By the way, Curry has 13 Total Achievements in his career and Jokic has 7. That’s just to put things into perspective in the overall picture
@@FreedomFighter2112 your forgot stats, statwise lebron far ahead of kobe
@@FreedomFighter2112 and jordan accomplished this in far less time, cuz in terms of competitions, of this group, he by far had the weakest
@marktaylor554 You must be a clown. You claim that Jordan's competition was weak but in the same sentence you argue that LeBron's stat was far better than Kobe when Kobe clearly faced tougher complication in the West than LeBron. Kobe also beat more teams above 500 than any other player in the game.
You can tell how much they RESPECT each other. This will be lightning for ESPN
You mean Lighting Rod each Other With they're Takes.
Yeah and they're both brothers from similar backgrounds. Skip had the white savior complex in him and always made it personal when he doesn't have facts. Now he's scrambling for talent on his debate show lol not the same. I don't care how he staks it Rachel was good in ESPN and that's it the rest its just work to get paid
For now...
Just give it time...
Love the back and forth... I'm a Jordan fan myself...
Man unc this was an awesome interview 👏
A Daily show with these two is EXACTLY what we need!
Yeah if you like drama more than ball.
Nahfr
Wont be daily. Only 2 days a week.
I wonder who is going to be the loudest in the morning 😂
@@twizzy909 2 days a week is actually a good idea
This was one of the most enjoyable Jordan Lebron debates ever, super enjoyed this for sure.
Definitely agree 👏👏
Thank you both for the class sas and uncle shay the goats
“I didn’t hear you say that when Magic was here” 😂😂😂
“ I have LeBron as a second best player and people think that’s disrespectful “ Shannon “it is” 😂💀
Lol, but Magic and Kobe in their primes, they would give Lebron a solid battle. I don't know if they would win but I know Kobe would kill Lebron in crunch time defensively. It's tough for Lebron one on one in crunch time.
@@ARmirzafulwe’ll that’s why it’s a team game we not taking one on one if that’s the case I’m taking Shaq over anyone
Since when did that EXACT quote happen? 😒
Can't wait for this debate on First Take!
They need their own show separately. Nobody can out talk Shay-Shay not even Stephen A
We have seen this debate 10 billion times… you just saw the debate now. If people actually want to see this debate I question their sanity.
I've been waiting all of LeBron's career for this debate...
Shannon is going against a Beast for this one! props to shannon taking the huge challenge
If jordan could adapt today game why they say be saying lebron couldn't handle in jordan Era 😂 so lebron wouldn't adapt
Man this might be best version of this debate ever so refreshing
This was so dope. We need more of this 🚫🧢
Who else is excited for Monday morning first take??
✋🏾✋🏾✋🏾✋🏾👋🏾👋🏾🤚🏾🖐🏽
Especially when it is on Labor Day too
Bruh, I really can't wait 😅
*Tuesday
@@harborboi Are you confused?
Stephen A is a master at making you agree even when you disagree “You would know this better than me” 😂😂😂
Feeding into Shannon's ego works everytime 😅😅😅
Nope you just speaking factz on this one
I loved it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can’t believe I just found this video now. Best video on the internet😭
5:37 - Shannon screaming "MAGIC WAS 73!!!" is the equivalent to the Coming to America line when Eddie Murphy's barbershop character said "JOE LOUIS WAS 76 YRS OLD WHEN THEY FOUGHT!" 😂😂😂😂
yes! lmaooo I caught that too it got me good
Magic was actually 32. Worthy was 30. Shannon is rewriting history. Sadly, this is the norm for lebron bootlickers.
😂😂😂
Magic was 31-32 that year in 91.... Shannon reaching
That was great 🤙🏿🔥
Shannon is in over his head with the Goat debate 😂
No he ain't 😂
You just gotta listen to Shannon when he talks
Shannon Sharpe always has tp talk over people when he's having this debate, he's definitely in over his head 😂
Naw just wait until he get on first take Stephen A don’t get what he just did
Exactly. Unc be out of bounds on many things.
Talking about Noah being drunk and still getting the ark.
Bruh, he had the ark year(s) BEFORE that, and was literally roofied… he did not choose to be drunk 🤦♂️
Facts n sequence Unc.
They give anyone these days a mic
MORE OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Both good arguments
Greatest warm up of all time! 😂😂😂
“They only asked Jordan to cook. Lebron had to cook, clean, wait tables, take orders”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jordan was a better defender too
@@Mainesthoughtthere should be a minus on defense if you have to use the rules to justify people being better at defense back then
@@courtneywhite6036 You have more energy to defend when all you have to do is score. It's harder to that when your usage is like lebron's and you have to do everything else too
@@Mainesthoughtand nobody ever mentions that Jordan's 80's competition was far better than his 90's competition. He couldn't get past Boston, Philly, Lakers, and Detroit until they aged out or self imploded. None of his Finals opponents had more than 2 hall of fame leveled players. LeBron in his 4th season took a team that had no business being in the Finals past Detroit who were big title contenders. Jordan's system from top to bottom (front office, coach, second star player, key role players) were better and allowed Jordan to flourish. If he has LeBron's teams from 2003-2010 and 2018 Finals team or Lakers 2019 team, he'll struggle if not worse. Also take Coach Phil out too because he contributed to Jordan's winning as well. It's proven due to Jordan and Kobe's success. That's what analysts don't mention.
@zockey99 If you're playing defense, that's taken a lot out of you. What are you talking about!
Best Debate Duo Ever keep going Stephen A Smith & Shannon Sharpe 👍🏻
This was an excellent debate all around.
I love how Stephen right off the bat RESPECTS Shannons time as a player. He knows that was a tough part with skip, so he wants to prove he’s different
Lol he just said what skip said indirectly. Ever since the kwame incident sas has changed his tactics.
I don’t like skip but skip has always called sharp “the hall of famer “…
Notice how Stephen was able to calm Shannon down a little with his reverse psychology by calling out how dramatic he is about the topic, knowing that would simmer him down so they could have a logical level headed discussion even tho Shannon will never be 100% logical on this topic bc he is too emotional over Lebron
Dominant victory by Stephen A 😂
Shannon did good debating Stephen A
SAS handled Shay big time, that was embarrassing for Shay
To be fair, Shay never really had a chance. He’s obviously on the wrong side of this debate. Outside of longevity, everything is in MJ’s favor
@@mattg6390Facts
easily
“MAGIC WAS 73!!!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When's the next update to begin round two .
I love how Shannon brings up Magic Johnson's age with Jordan's first title. Magic was 31. Dirk Nowitzki on the flip side was 32 going on 33 when Dallas, who was an older team too, beat Miami
Chicago was absolute trash squad when Chicago lost to the Pistons, a multiple championship team.
The Msvs in 2011 swept the Lakers, beat Spurs and OKC in the playoffs. They played tremendous defense and had lethal 3point shooters with Dirk playing great.
Did Dirk have 9 years of going to the NBA finals on his treads? I love how y'all ignore the same Dallas team SWEPT Kobe Bryant's 2 time defending champions that same year in the playoffs.
Pretty sure magic was 73 😂
@@gdtiago1 and dirk was older than magic and lebron had a superteam and dirk was by himself and jj barea and jason terry schooled lebron all series long ... and lebron scored just 8 pts in one game and blew a 2-1 lead losing 3 straight after being heavily favored to win the ring
It's like watching my favorite uncle on my father's side debating my favorite uncle on my mother's side, classic.
Best comment for sure!!
Y'all really need father's in y'all lives.
This is funny ash😂😂
Excellent debate. Glad they conceded valid points on each side.
This show bout to be the definition of “just because you’re louder doesn’t mean you’re right”.
😂😂😂FACTS!
Yes, I really don't want to see Shannon on First Take. I'm tired of the yelling as it is
@@erichemsley8706bro the other niqqa known for his yelling
Everything Stephen A said is eye opening he definitely won this debate
Lebron the goat
He was definitely more prepared for this discussion 😂😂😂💯💯💯
@@user-wl2wu2qz1ono, no he isnt
Stephen A is a basketball guy
It’s emotion!
Lebron is not the Goat 😂😂😂
jordan has achieved 10x what lebron has ever achieved. his jordan brand is phenominal. the original space jam is iconic compared to the new one which really isnt amazing. he has achieved more on the court in less time and honestly if he quit and never came back the first time it would have been even more impactful since he came back after not playing seriously for a few years
C'mon we not gonna act like lebron ain't no billionaire
10x as much is crazy
I can tell that Lebron and Jordan are bursting with laughter on this continuious debate about them.
🐐 👑
Ha Ha
At least Jordan is 'cause he knows, like a lot of us sane individuals knows, this ain't even a debate. It never was and never will be.
Jordan laughing Lebron is crying
@@NwoFreshYou beat me to it by 1 minute, word for word that was going to be my reply lol
Shid, Jordan taking it personally.
I am 27 years old. This debate has been going on since I was about 12. Let that sink in.
Yeah when we was 12 it was kobe vs LeBron we all knew Jordan was the goat.
@@brandonhagin Facts 😂
The conversation really amped up after 2016. That’s when Bron and Jordan stans became insufferable and as a by product, NBA discourse as a whole suffered tremendously.
@@brandonhaginthe fact Lebron never met Kobe in the Finals says everything
Kobe was better then lebron from 2004-2011
You know the thing I love about these two, the intensity is coming from both sides equally. I like that. Sometime I disagree with one or the other and sometimes I disagree with both! But I like the interaction. It’s good for sports talk.
I always just picture Jason Siegel in Bad Teacher screaming at that kid going:
“THATS ONLY ARGUMENT YOU NEED!!!”
These two knuckleheads need their own show together. They’re excellent. It’s a perfect relationship.
I still think Brooks debating with Shannon is better.
The fact that Shannon makes Stephen A. look like the calm one is crazy lol
the funniest debate so far👏💀
like to hear a mahomes vs brady debate
Skip fighting the air rn 😆 these two are magical together. The ability to debate and not be overbearing is amazing.
it's like a new girlfriend....everything is great in the initial phase, but as time goes on, things start to change
Not overbearing??? You mean just equally INSANELY OVERBEARING right?
A dream debate we always wanted from these 2
Amen!!!!!!!
And there weren't any cheap shots. Just good debate.
Skip is wayyy better
@@actualcollegegradStephen a smith was smooth with the compliment to Unc about being one of the goats.. meanwhile, skip went out of his way to disrespect Shae in favor of getting on his knees for Brady. I’m glad Shae is doing his own thing.
@@johnhancock1362 skip takes things personal and talks through his emotions. SAS doesn’t do that. thats why SAS has no problem agreeing with UNC and pay homage to the legendary player he is sitting across from.
This is like the beatles/stones debate that goes on in my local every now and then. Part of the fun of it is that you can argue about it for years and never reach the end. It would almost kind of spoil the fun if you did.
It'd be nice if SAS could complete simple words like "Believe."
Shannon still screaming to get his point across and now Stephen A is the calm and collected Skip. 😂😂
True
This is a great debate because they were able to acknowledge each others points that went against their own.
Stephen a will always hold 2011 against lebron,but will never mention that bron was the most insanely scrutinized athlete on the planet at the time and that's been the case throughout his career. He joined a new team where d wade was the star and it took him a year and a bad series to adapt, that's about it. He made 8 finals in the following 9 years and wins with 3 different teams! Stop the agenda and speak the facts ffs
@@jonathanfrancis7608 Jordan had a whole book written about how shifty he was to people.....definitely the most scrutinized athlete of his time.....for every point a LeBron fan makes there's facts to smack it down..
Jordan couldn't even get past the first round in his early years and that was before the nba expanded and was basically an all American league. Conveniently leaving out Jordan's failures and highlighting Brons bad moments is a silly way to go about it.
@@jonathanfrancis7608on the contrary, Stephen A defends lebron more than most, people just think hes a lebron hater because when he does go against lebron people make a big deal about it
Skio is wayyy better
Good evening Kings And Thank you.
i’m here for this 😂❤
I'm a huge LeBron fan. Have always been. He's my favorite player.....but Jordan is the best ever
@@andwhat83Lebron ain't no PG
Mike, Kobe(constantly disrespected), then lebron.
jordan is my favorite player, have been since 93…. But I think lebron peak is just longer and better
@@andwhat83best pg boy just shut up
very few bron fans would admit that
This is gold. These two are peerless, love this conversation.
Yo! I love Stephen's rebuttal game. I can listen to you guys all day. Thank you!
This was great 😂
"They accused Noah of drunkeness, God still gave him the arch."
Shannon Sharpe 😂😂
You can hear the staff laughing in the background 😂
Steven A mopped the floor with Shannon 😂😂😂
No he didn't y'all Jordan worshippers just don't listen! Y'all worship the man so hard you ignore all logic
Stephen*
Come on bruh, the name is in the title too.
The longevity aspect is a great point for Shannon.
A 13:47 min conversation, and that last “NO” killed me 😂
An educated, informed, respectful debate about the GOATS. I feel fortunate to have seen both careers. Gonna start watching First Take again.
So who is your goat 🐐 of the two
Shannon sounds like a LeShill again with these bogus arguments.
1) Jordan did run into Warriors 17/18 equivalents MANY TIMES. In 86 and 87 he ran into Celtics that had 4 starters in HOF. Then next 4 years he ran into Pistons that constantly had 3 HOFers in Thomas, Dumars and Rodman. That's 6 straight years Jordan ran into superb teams in playoffs. Only help Jordan had was Pippen and sometimes nothing.
2) You cannot say Jordan faced an old Magic Johnson in 91 finals and then give Lebron a pass in 2011, 2013 and 2014. What's the age of Norwitzki, Duncan and Ginobili during those finals? That's a shill argument. Jordan at least won in 91. Lebron OTOH nearly went 0-3 during those 3 finals if not for Ray Allen saving his legacy. Lebron's 2014 loss to ol' Duncan was so bad he set NBA final record on losing margin per game.
The only all star teammate Jordan ever had was Pippen, and that's nuf for Jordan to win 6 rings in 2 three-peats manner. Lebron OTOH needed 5 all stars in Irvine, Love, Bosh, DWade and Brow to only produce 4. Lebron needed more help and yet produced less rings than Jordan. He clearly is not as good. In fact, why do we even rank Lebron at #2? Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Duncan all won more. Lebron is not even top 5.
Only that Lebron is no G.O.A.T. Great player yes but G.O.A.T......No!
@@B1Kobe0824yea, lebron cant even win defensive accolades with scoring titles in the single season..
Why i like club shay shay. You get lengthy debates or conversations. To time limited on First Take for this.
Shannon Is The Debate Partner SAS Always Wanted 😂😂
Shannon lost this 1.
@@jonthomson9262 He’ll Lose Many More 😂
@@jonthomson9262 The fact they met in the middle more than they butt heads. You're missing the point by not acknowledging that..
@@nicholascole2613 I repeat, Shannon and LeBron held that L. Jordan simply has a clearly better case than LeBron. It's not even that close. Lol 😂
@@dr.grinch9530 lol 😂.......I give LeBron fans L's ALL the time.......they just keep losing. But some of them are getting more and more desperate/creative in their arguments. The creativity is mildly impressive, but when you have a very strong case,creativity is not needed. I dispose of them too. Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
I thought it was a drive-by 🤣
2nd best and most entertaining Lebron vs Jordan debate I’ve seen. The 1st best is my cousin vs my uncle at the all of the family functions.
Shannon doesn’t realize ESPN is going to be more of a challenge because his debate partner this time around isn’t delusional and actually knows how to make solid points.
Exactly!
But the fact remains you can still debate your argument for lebron even if sas has more jordan facts, which he doesnt.
Skip has all his jordan facts straight. He just is too harsh on bron
Yea SAS is gonna elevate Unc game, this is a good debate
Yeah Shannon still has that skip effect. He needs to realize he doesn’t have to scream anymore to make his point. Because look how SAS checked him im the beginning and than called him emotional
Stephen A can be just as delusional. He says curry is better than magic and when the knicks are invovled hes def delusional 😂
I wouldn't call this a "heated" debate.. I would say this is a great debate amongst good friends aka brothers. Those who have had sports debates can relate
How are they brothers
Shannon never really in a heated debate he just funny
@@kenesealo7982 youre white
@@RagingHeat98 lmao your pathetic if you think there “brothers”. They had 2 episodes together and scrubs like you think they have a brotherly bond. Pathetic 😂
@@RagingHeat98😂😂😂😂
That action speaking 😂🤣
I swear there is no G.O.A.T debate. In 1988, Jordan was league MVP, Defensive Player of The Year, All NBA 1st team, All defense 1st team, Scoring Champ, Led the league in steals, Named All Star Team MVP, and won the Slam Dunk Contest.....ALL IN THE SAME YEAR!!!!
Shannon loosing this argument by many miles 😂😂😂😂
What hurts Lebron case for GOAT status is we all still remember the 2011 meltdown against Dallas in his prime. MJ's prime was 6-0 in the Finals with no choking performances in sight.
Jorgamble couldn't get past the 1st round until Pippen came. Respectfully.
@@JustinJwhile dropping 60 points against the boston celtics with 5 hall of famers. And there were only 2 fulls years before scottie came and one of them was his rookie year. He didn't choke in those games, just cant beat an entire championship team by himself, lebron never did so either.
Can’t be the goat if you only been to 6 finals. What happened to the rest of the years he played
@@fullygaza8909by your logic Magic Johnson is the GOAT - 9 finals with 5 titles in 13 seasons...vs Lebron with 10 finals and 4 titles in 20 seasons lmao. Magic won more than Lebron in fewer seasons.
@@JustinJ there's literally no argument you can make that can trump the 2011 choke job or the fact that he had to run to Wade's team to win a ring...respectfully.
I love how irrational this was. It was just two respected sports analysts in a screaming match about something everyone is split on.
Everyone thinks Jordan had cake walks in the finals. That is FAR from true! First finals was against a Lakers team that won 58 games and grinded thru a tough western conference to get to Jordan. Magic was ONLY 31 years old in that Finals, which is a superstar's prime age. His second finals opponent was a VERY GOOD Blazers team with fellow dream-teamer/hall of famer Clyde Drexler, who won 57 games that year. Third was the Phoenix Suns, Charles Barkley was the second best player in the entire league, won the MVP, and the Suns won 62 games, most in the league. Fourth was against the power-house Seattle Supersonics who blew thru the West, won 64 games and was the deepest team in the NBA. Loaded with talent..(Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Detlef Schrempf - all All-stars) Gary is a hall of famer. The 5th and 6th were against the Utah Jazz, with Karl Malone (two time MVP), John Stockton. They won 64 games then 62 games. These are not to mention the battles he had against the Knicks and the Pacers that went 7 games in the ECF. Jordan played more Hall of Famers and great teams than LBJ ever did.
A lot of the win percentages in the 90s were overinflated due to expansion teams. Sonics and Jazz were good, the rest was mediocre or trash. The Lakers had literally been swept in the finals 2 years earlier and their best player got hurt in the 91 finals. The blazers had already lost in 5 in 1990.
SAS 100% right, Shannon is emotion based
SAS is emotion based
their both emotional, youre just old
@@sunnywestside4210 if 28 is considered “old” then sure lol
@@anthonyclay007he thought he had it lol
@@sunnywestside4210 who tf
Jordan fans spit facts while Lebron fans spit excuses.
Jordan fans don't wanna hear the truth... Dey still believe in the myth of Jordan.... Who finals competition was not good...put LeBron against those teams he go 6-0 too....
Jordan fans brag about beating John Stockton in the finals.
@@jdag426 LeBron will lose the finals vs Utah fasho
@jackjax7921 stockon is top 30 all time
@@JuwanTaylor-jz5zrPlease. Almost every team LeBron faced in the finals are way better than the Jazz. He would could Stockton and Malone.
“i’m sitting in front of one of the greatest titans“ vs “so what?”
I love how SAS handled Unc with constant facts to support his opinion whereas Skip would have continued sounding like a fanboy
This is about to be the greatest show in sports. “Magic was 73”😂
I caught that. MAGIC WAS 73😂😂
Wow, one of the few times I’m 100% with Stephen A
Was gonna like this comment but I wanted to keep it at 23 ;)
Stephen A. only ever been right once in his life... last week when he apologised after the track star brother schooled him about World and local champion status... but anyways, whut was you doin at them high-schools Stephen...?
In the last 50 years, Career Résumé - Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles/ All-Star MVPs)
1st: Jordan = 49
2nd: Kobe = 34
2nd: LeBron = 34
4th: Kareem = 31
5th: Duncan = 29
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You can debate 2nd-5th place but Jordan is so far ahead of everyone else…it’s not even close. Also the most amazing thing is that Jordan accomplished all this while playing in at least 5 years less than the other players
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By the way, Curry has 13 Total Achievements in his career and Jokic has 7. That’s just to put things into perspective in the overall picture
@@sachasoormaonly ever been right once in his life ? lmao someone should ban you from havin opinions.
@@user-hd1rk7lq7o yeah... then we can all be Stephen A. disciples like you 🫣💀
That is hilariously funny 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
People say LeBron better than Kobe, Kobe is the closest thing to Michael Jordan, I'll ever see