UPDATE: 10/15/19 It has come to my attention that the PX7 does suffer from sound degradation when the ANC is activated on max. It’s still not as bad as the sound quality hit the PX faces when max ANC is engaged but it’s still a problem nonetheless. Compared to ANC turned off, the sound signature of the PX7 gets a bit warmer sounding and closed in. I can deal with that a bit. However, the big issue I have is at higher volumes there is some sort of dynamic range or volume limiter in effect that hurts some of the fidelity in the music. It happens at all volumes, but it’s more apparent at higher volumes. For example, when I’m listening at a volume level where I want to feel immersed into the music and rock out, the volume on certain frequencies in the music raises and lowers as to not distort the speaker. When I turn off the ANC, this phenomenon doesn’t occur which leads me to believe B&W implemented this to purposely restrain your music from distorting the speaker whilst ANC is active. This doesn’t happen with my Sony WH1000XM3 or Sennheiser Momentum 3 Wireless when they both have their ANC on max. In terms of sound, the PX7 is now behind both the Momentum’s and Sony’s for me now as a result of this.
Huge Bummer. Really hoped that this wont happen. I will receive my pair today and will see what it can handle. If its as bad as it seems i will return them and wait because none of the current options seems to fit as well. Why did you just noticed it now?
Vendetta xRiich I noticed it on day 1 but believed it was the sound signature until I really dived in yesterday and played all types of music that really causes it to initiate the volume limiter. If you don’t listen a bit above moderate volume it’s not a hugely noticeable issue.
Craig Olsen Could be fixable by an update. Listen to the song Dominator Mode by S.P.Y at around 75% volume. When the bass drops, cycle between ANC off and High and listen to the dynamics. You’re gonna hear the volume limiter in effect.
@@TheGamingAudiophile I am not sure what to say. I listened to the song about 12 times and didn't really hear a huge difference. Maybe my ears arent as good as yours. There was some change in the base but not a massive change. I really appreciate the fact that you always get back to me. I am just trying to see if these are the right fit for me as the momentum 3 and the xm3 didn't do it for me.
You did a really thorough, thoughtful review; thank you! I really appreciate the way you compared the properties of the sound they both produce along with how that impacts the listening experience with different types of music.
Thanks so much for the comparison. Question, did you burn the headphones in? I realize that there’s some controversy around wether or not its actually effective. But I own a set of PX that have improved over time in respect of sound quality. Lows have become more plumb.
I have a iFI Audio Nano iDSD Black Label DAC/Headphone amp with iFI OTG-C Cable. Do you think i can use this with my px7? I don't even know what it'll do to the sound. Any ideas?
I know this is late but as I have recently gotten the PX7s myself, I was interested in hearing what others experience with regarding their sound and I think I agree with almost everything you said. The most important thing you mentioned was actually that the headphones sound more like your in a concert theatre while the Sony’s are much more of a closed space (to me they sound like you’re in the studio with the artist) and I think that’s what makes the PX7s stand out to me. It’s very true that live music sounds amazing and it does seem like B&W were trying to go for that theatric/arena sound that is similar to their speakers. They took a very different approach. Where the B&W really shine because of the wide soundstage and pinpoint accurate bass reproduction is with gaming, movies, and cinematic/entertainment. A lot of headphone reviewers don’t talk about that much but with those, the PX7 does amazing and I’ve not heard another headphone of its kind match it in that way. Versatility is also a win.
Thanks for the review, I'm more into music that's been live recorded, therefore, I need the instruments to sound accurate / natural, with resolution, timbre & decay. From what I gather in your review, the PX7 sounds more natural, is that correct?
Great and very detailed review thanks very much. Thinking about picking up the PX7 (I've had the original PX since launch) but the comments regarding sound quality degradation at higher volumes make me worry a bit. Is it only with ANC on or does the issue also exist whilst ANC is off? Do they sound better after breaking in (like the PX)?
So helpful! Thanks for the in-depth review! I have one more to ask: How is PX7's increased pressure when turning the ANC on? And which has a more comfortable ear pressure in ANC mode, sony or PX7? Thanks.
Excellent review and great narrative on the sound signatures. For your next video please pick up a closer mic so we can pick up your voice a bit better
I bought the 1000xm3 and had them for 3 weeks until I saw the PX7 announced and returned them, The Sony were nice but had a few annoyances such as: don't sound good out of the box unless equalized, not able to connect to two devices at once, no automatic connection when turned on, unreliable touch controls, no auto turn off unless bluetooth is disconnected. Some of these are issues that my 100€ 4 year old Plantronics Backbeat Sense didn't have, so it felt underwhelming for a pair of 300€ cans. I bought the PX7 today and can't wait to try them in a few days!
Couldn't agree more - I have both the PX and 1000xm3, and all these Sony annoyances are a major minus for the Sony's, which most reviewers tend to not highlight at all. What good is 20/30 hour battery life if it doesn't auto turn off, such that so often it's just worn out to zero when you left them for a day and now want to use them again? The touch control issues are also a major minus for me - I've had them so often make unwanted phone calls as a result of it deciding I touched it and told it to do something. And Sony still not supporting multiple devices years after most others is yet another non-insignificant hassle point. Plus having to choose between enabling an EQ to get a nice sound, or disabling it so as to be able to allow a high quality codec be used, is a further minus. The only minus for me with the PX's (whose sound I prefer already - any improvements in the PX7's are just a big bonus on that front) has been the weight (due to it leading to discomfort when wearing for long periods), and now that the PX7's solve this issue, I'm really looking forward to getting them and expecting to be then only using them going forward. Plus my PX's were bought a while ago with the soft case (I understand newer ones already came with a hard case), so the hard case will be nice too.
I went for the B&W PX7s, simply because I like a all round good sound unlike what most people go for which is your typical bass which ruins the music for me. The Sony mx3s were good sound but from what reviews say, they don't last long as the sound is known to fade over time and develop crackly sound not to mention the material feeling cheap to me but yet still comfy. Overall, I think everyones hearing is different in a unique way when it comes to music and videos, but for me the B&W are a fantastic game changer with good quality sound and I can safely say they were better than my Bose QC 35ii. Edit: had to return B&W as they did not work well with my phone, the sound was muddy and they kept disconnecting, I swapped them for Sennheiser Momentum 3s which sounded much better!
How are you liking your momentum 3's so far? I'm on the fence between them and the Sony's. I'm a bit concerned with the EQ that the Senny app has. Seems like an odd way to EQ music.
You should do an update video compared to the 1000XM3 and the Senny M3! All the other videos on CZcams are first impressions or don't really go in-depth after a week+ of use. Thanks!
Was planning to have either one of these, tried out the xm3 earlier and it is comfortable. In terms of sound not including the ANC, which is the better choice?
Hi mate, awesome channel and reviews! will you be reviewing the new Sony 1000XM4? and one quick question, which would be the better overall package in terms of sound, built quality, and ANC between XM3 and Momentum 3? Thanks very much.
Thanks man, was waiting on this comparison. Looks like the PX7 is a winner and might be day one buy for me. Literally the only thing I didn't like about the OG PX was that it was uncomfortable to wear in the shop and I couldn't see myself actually enjoying using it while walking around. If the clamping and hard earpads are fixed in the PX7 then it is great news.
How would you compare the momentum 3 to the px7. I just got my px7 today I got emotional when listening to some violin tracks the separation and detail on acoustics is amazing. I do miss base from time to time but it can get a bit over whelming. What I do wish is that the px7 had a little more customisation in the app maybe an eq. But yeah what do you think of the momentum 3
I'm defenetly going to get the PX7, as an owner of the old P7, I really got fan of Browsers and Wilkins. This review just underlines my opinion, well done!
@Kamar Enanaa I don't think you can give an honest assessment re: sound difference considering the P7's have been Burned in quite a bit vs the new PX7 just firing up. You should have waited a while before responding to give a more true listening feedback.
Just a very small correction. My B&W PX came with a hardshell case as well. I think the later releases all do, as I got them replaced due to a fault in the minijack around july this year :-)
Great review, thanks. I just returned the Sony M3s after trying them for a week. As TheGamingAudiophile points out, I believe they are more suitable for bass intensive music. I listen to mostly classical and jazz and the M3’s were just way too boomy for me. I tried EQing them, but I just didn’t like the sound. I’m going the try the PX7s. Hopefully the bass is a bit more subdued and not boomy. I have B&W 704 tower speakers and they are awesome. I hope the PX7s will exhibit similar characteristics in terms on sound quality. I know I’m comparing apples to oranges, but a cleaner sound than the M3s would be great. We’ll see...
Hi mate, I remember the H9 was the king in your previous rating but seeing some comments below, is there a new king in regards to ANC and Sound Quality headphones now?
Good comparison review. One thing that people should know about that needs correcting though. You said that synthetic leather is more durable than genuine leather. The complete opposite is true. Genuine leather is much longer lasting than synthetic leather. You’re lucky to get anywhere near 2 years of heavy usage out of a pair ear pads made from fake leather. Just ask most people who’ve ever owned the Bose QC35. As long as they’re gently cleaned with a moist towel periodically, ear pads made from quality genuine leather will last many years. They may even outlast the rest of the headphone components. “Pleather” ear pads get you the opposite result...they are usually the weak link in a pair of headphones...the first part that needs replacing.
I have Bose QC35 (first gen) and pads are pretty much still as new despite 3.5 years of usage. They don’t feel like real leather to me but they are definitely super comfy and durable.
Thank you for confirming the material used on the PX7 is leatherette and not genuine leather. That was a big concern of mine and I hadn’t seen anyone else address that.
Hi TheGamingAudiophile, I wonder if you could take a look at some of the options I have for wired gaming headphones that I plan to convert into wireless via a Bluetooth dongle from Mpow: Blon Bosshifi B8 Takstar Pro 82 Philips SHP9500 Thanks.
Update 2: I have tried the Headphones a little longer. No matter what NC Mode your using. At higher Volumes the Bass is capped to a certain degree. It really sounds weird when a song which normally has more Bass just gets flat. Its definitely something that they could fix with software but i dont expect them to do so to be honest. Nevertheless when you turn Nc off these will blow your mind. They have pretty great passive noise isolation and the sound is sooo clean. Like i said the Sound review is on point. Its so good i even think about keeping them as Non NC Headphones.
I have the mx3 for about 3 months. They sound fine to me, but I'm not an audiophile so I haven't got a high bar set for that. I don't have that creaking headband that you have at 1:32 . Maybe a bit of silicone spray might help yours? Comfort was very high on my wish list and I haven't been disappointed with the mx3s. The noise cancelling is almost surreal, so I'm super happy with that. But I do miss not having dual bluetooth connectivity. I have one device connected for calls and one as audio and that works as a work around. But if I want to connect to a third device I have to go through the pairing process. But they are very, very comfortable, so I am still happy with them.
Reason I'm planning on getting the px7 and not the xm3 is Bluetooth 5.0 Updare: 1/7/20 I decided to return them and instead got the bose 700 and not looking back. Love the touch pad control, sound quality, and the built in Google assistant, plus got it in white which I love, these headphones look sexy ass hell
Thanks for review. TIP: when you are talking about a specific headset please hold it. This will help when viewers fast-forward, so we know which headset your comments are related to
Guys !! Question for you: if you have the choice between sony xm4 or the audio technica ath-m50xbt2, which one do you choose? I want the best sound quality… i have the xm4, but i hesitate to buy the xbt2. Am i better with the sennheiser m3? So i want a better sound than the xm4. I love the sony’s but i don’t think they are « wow » for the sound. I have the skullcandy crusher evo and i have a lot more fun to listen to than the xm4. But after one hour of listening, the bass is wayyyy to loud hahah it’s annoying for the ears. So i want an excellent pair of headphones, good bass, but with an excellent soundstage and excellent audio reproduction.
Wow, the BW sounds like it’s a fantastic headphone. About the Bose, Is it possible that if you turn the volume on your phone to the second highest tick and then after that, control the volume from the headphone itself, the sound won’t fall apart?
headphonejedi master that is correct that how your suppose to use the Bose with there special volumized equalization to reep the benefits. Turn volume on your phone to one notch below max the only use headphone to control volume going forward.
On iPhone or iPad or MacBook which are the devices I use, the media volume is synced with the headphone. So I cannot independently control the volume on the headset and source.
TheGamingAudiophile I use the same devices you do. Yes the volume goes up and down on the MacBook or iPhone when I push buttons on the headset, but nevertheless, if you do it that way, the DSP works better
Funny, I emailed them about the leather issue 5-6 years ago. Very happy to see they ditched the sheepskin. Now they are about to get another customer :)
The PX7 ticks the most boxes in this category, but the XM3 is still the better option for most. It has the best noise cancelling, better comfort, adjustable sound and a lower price tag. What genres of music do you typically listen to?
I've been looking forward to this my man! As someone who likes cleanish sound (Sennheiser HD650), as opposed to the muddled crap you get with XM3, I'm hoping these challenge the Sony on the ANC front and definitely the audio front. The ANC on the Sony's are seriously amazing, but their sound quality... is really quite bad. Are you thinking of looking into the PX5 as well, as they're significantly cheaper, but I can imagine on ear not really being that good for ANC as they lose out on the passive cancellation.
how is your purchase? Im also thinking between PX7 and Bose 700, dont want to make mistake because I tried Bose's and wasn't happy about its sound quality, think they lack of bass little bit
I had a wired pair of P7's a couple years ago, incredible sound and they were some sexy-ass cans - I would always have people commenting on how cool they looked.
With the way you love great sound, I think you'd appreciate the sound quality on the NAD HP 70. I own them with the Sony xm3 and they sound significantly better and the Sony's already sound great.
Its because px7 is made out of carbon fiber. They made the best sound of the B&W line and adjusted even more for perfect sound quallity. Every audiofile is recomending them.
Quick Update from me: Today received the Px7. I really think its not the right choice for most. First they are a little quite. At 100% its okay but definitly not loud enough for my taste. Momentum an Xm3s are a lot louder. Furthermore comfort is better on Sennheiser and Xm3s as well. Build quality i think is really good and somewhere between the Sennheiser and the Xm3s. Soundwise the review is quite on point. I will give them back to B&W for sure. I probably will switch to the Momentums. Only problem is the battery life but i want better looks/ build then the Sonys. NC is great enough for daily travel like train and bus. For flights go with Sony for sure
Vendetta xRiich At 100% volume try to listen to some bass heavy music and compare it to the momentum’s and Sony’s and let me know if you hear the sound on certain frequencies going up and down.
@@TheGamingAudiophile yeah! Its sooo annoying. Sounds like some frequencies just go to a certain point and then are capped. It sounds really bad. Sennheiser will hopefully fit me better
First of all, excellent review! So much content and you didn’t ramble. Just the straight goods! Quick question- are the earpads on the PX7 replaceable? If not, that’s a bit of a red flag for me. If they were replaceable, I would likely pick them up very soon. Also, do you see the clamping force being problematic for eyeglass wearers? I’ve been looking for a pair of headphones to replace my B&O H7. I know there are better sounding headphones but I love the design language of B&Os headphones and construction quality- the anodized aluminum and actual lambskin leather (which has lasted very well despite 3+ years of heavy use) are awesome.
mohamedahmed1023 Hey there and glad you enjoyed the review. The PX7 does have removable pads via a snap in system. The clamping force might be problematic with glasses. Also, the PX7 are sensitive to an improper seal which can cause the bass to reduce.
How are you Gamingaudiophile in ur honest opinion for overear wireless if you had to choose right now what would be ur pick for best NC headphones including everything from sound to comfort and battery life!
olgil The increase in sound isn’t drastic. The PX7 is more spacious and the sound isn’t destroyed when max ANC is on like the PX. Also, I feel that the PX7 is much more comfortable to wear than the PX.
Great detailed review man, the video is a bit hard to watch however due to the focus hunting, I would have just left it in manual focus or you could always do a talking head video :)
Great detailed video as usual! I'm considering buying the PX7's (kinda decided already) and I want to cement my decision..... how would you compare the sound quality of the PX to the PX7?
Wow, thanks for the review! Best one I've seen yet on the PX7. I just got mine. I know nothing about the Sony headphones. But, I think you describe the sound of the PX7 very accurately. I'm in the sound camp of these Bowers & Wilkins. The two device connection is a plus as I switch between my iPhone 11 Pro, and iPad Pro all the time. Did you find the sound changed switching between devices? I thought I detected something going on when I did that. I just wish the B&W app. in iOS would allow just a little equalization. The soundstage on the PX7's blew me away! Is one better than the other, of course note. Everyone has different taste, and different music. But for jazz, rock, blues, indie I'm loving how the PX7 treats those music genres. Also the battery life seems great on the PX7 vs. my former PX headphones. Quick question. When you compare the sound are you turning the noise reduction off?
I got these. Very comfortable. Sound quality is brilliant . First day, sensor was working. Now not working. Sounds leak too. Can hear everything without wearing too loud. :(.
I'm torn between the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H9 3rd Gen and the Bowers & Wilkins PX7. Music quality wise is it worth going the extra hundred dollars for B&O?
I never really like the sound of the 1000xm3 that much. It was OK. Just thought it was too muddy and dark. Too much mid bass without enough deep bass visceral impact. The EQ Improves things but still couldn't get the impact I wanted. Bass was simply too loose. Anyway I felt the qc35 sounded significantly better. I would turn the volume up on my android phone and the volume down on the headphones (so that the bass can stay strong and low treble not be harsh). I even felt the hear.on 2 was significantly better than the 1000xm3. It was more clear with a more visceral impact in the bass. Also you can EQ the hear.on 2 to sound like the 1000xm3 (why would anyone do that though lol). Adjusting the EQ (lowering the bass by moving the slider slightly down and to the right) to the momentum 3 made them sound better than anything I heard EVER. Even better than my 58x jubilee (if that is possible).
h1a8 The XM3 to me sounds very full and rich. A warm sound that’s forgiving and pleasant to listen to. I love it. I don’t hear any bass looseness. It’s quite controlled but definitely not accurate. The subbass is also very well extended. The QC35 to me sounds better than the NC 700. The active EQ is less aggressive. The QC35 sounds well balanced with a nice and clear sound packing a great soundstage. The problem I have with the QC35 is that it’s old and doesn’t have the newer features of the Sony XM3 or B&W PX7. The Sony’s sound more engaging and full than the QC35 while the QC35 sounds more balanced and clearer but not as engaging. I’ve tried the Momentum’s when EQ’d and yes the sound is more balanced but the mediocre noise cancelling makes them go from sounding different to the XM3 to sounding worse when commuting in loud environments. Which is why they are not in top 3 within this category. The PX7 sounds more nuanced than the Momentum’s thanks to the bigger soundstage allowing more of the instruments to breathe along with superior noise cancelling and longer battery life. The Momentum’s quite simply cannot compete. The Sony’s are probably still the best ANC headphones for most people thanks to the lower price, best noise cancelling, warm and forgiving sound while still being quite detailed that’s also adjustable tonally, stellar comfort and vast array of features except dual Bluetooth pairing. The PX7 is hands down the most well rounded ANC headphone out on the market now tho.
@@TheGamingAudiophile Thank you. I agree with you mostly. I did find the 1000xm3 very warm and easy to listen to (very relaxing). I just hated that it didn't have enough visceral bass impact for me. Maybe the midbass was drowning out the subbass? As far as clarity, I was able to EQ them to achieve a great level of clarity (so that wasn't a problem). Just wanted the bass to be tighter and more visceral and the soundstage a little bigger. Can't wait to try the px7. I'm hyped.
I agree with you! The Sony WH-1000XM3 is not clear! I have the PX7 and love them, but I just bought the Sennheiser Momentum 3 because the sound clarity is a bit better to my ears and even though the battery is lower, I want the best sound possible.
@@TheGamingAudiophile I just ordered PX7. I tried XM3's and sounds pretty good. I ordered PX7 because of build quality and im sure sound quality.. eventhough i haven't listened to px7s.
Men i need an opinion. I still trying the Px7 every Second i have. I think they sound amazing without Anc and okayish with Anc on. Now i dont know if i should return them to get the Momentum or keep the Px7 and just use anc if necessary. Sony arent an option because i dont like the Build and the sound without EQ isnt my taste. With Eq the codec drops to sbc which is hideous
@@craigolsen1916 yeah to be honest im definitely more on the Sennheiser Side. I love the Sound Signature of the Momentums. It matches my preferences and i can even tune it with the EQ. Looks are for sure better on the Momentum because the Px7 are really wide with the headband and the feel of real leather just isnt matched yet. Only real concern is the battery life and travel case. I will probably just buy a hard shell case and a good usbc cable (headphones can be used via a usbc wire) ANC is good enough for normal use in bus and train i guess. For Flights i would stay with the Px7. Overall im just not willing to compromise for a few hours of battery life and a litte bit of ANC for superior sound, feel and features
@@letslachflash I found that the Momentums bothered my ears so I returned them. For me the battery life is a big factor as I dont want to charge them every single day. I love the way th PX7 sound and feel and am ok with a small sound downgrade when I need anc turned on. Either way I think both sets have positives and negatives. Bower and Wilkins can change the sound through an update but a weak battery can never be fixed is how I look at it.
@@craigolsen1916 the problem is, its not small. I hear lots of different music and some is bass heavy. You literally cant use these headphones with Anc and bass heavy music. Huge bummer. Furthermore B&W wont fix anything. They didnt even do anything with the awful sound with Anc on the og PX. Comfort is for sure subjective. I like both (Px7 more for going around, momentum when you dont move as much) and yeah battery is a point but charge every day? I hear lots of music but not over 8 hours a day (on headphones at least). I will get away with it by just having a usbc cable with me when necessary and just charge them every 2-3 days. Definitely worth the improvements in terms of Sound.
MrBravo143 XM3 is a bit louder however it is prone to distortion when ANC is on. The PX7 doesn’t get as loud but the music doesn’t distort even with ANC at max volume. However, the PX7 has some sort of dynamic range limiter in place when the volume is very close to max or at max volume which messes with the fidelity of the music.
Too bad the real leather is gone. Much much much more durable than leatherette! But finally they seem to fix the anc sound quality which dropped on the px. I am ordering the px7. But i really hate the fact they moved away from leather. It made the headphone way more premium.
I don't think is fare to compare a device that is like more than a year old and now days cheaper to a new device that has a bigger price tag , now days you can get the Sony headset like at 250 bucks
With my Sony's, I hate how the sound changes so much with noise cancellation on, or ambient mode with vocal focus on. The sound just goes to shit. Sound becomes way too thick, too warm, male vocals become too chesty. Additionally, the apps EQ can fix the balance of sound but doing so disables ldac which is the Sony's main technological advantage it has. Hmmm
My Sony’s snapped and broke up on me too. Sony also negated warranty because a manufacturing defect too! Total bitches Sony compared to Bose and Sennheiser
I bought these and I don't like them. They are a pretty boring sounding pair of headphones, IMO. Voices don't sound too great through them, the treble is unremarkable, and the bass isn't deep enough for my liking. The headphones aren't very loud, and there isn't even much of a soundstage for an over the ear pair of headphones. They are also too bulky for outdoor use, IMO. The worst thing about these headphones is their flimsy feel that makes me worry about breaking them every time I pick them up with one hand instead of two. This is unacceptable for a £300+ pair of headphones. The one positive is that these headphones will keep your ears warm in the winter. I also own Sennheiser Momentum first generation headphones. The Sennheiser's are more robust and do everything (sound quality-wise) much better than the Sony headphones whilst at the same time being much smaller and portable.
its f... simple.Harman have one of the best sound profiles,sony sound good but... something resist and something like bass too much,not controdel,thats why ldacs and lot of features theres is to try fix by ur self.And Harman enought only sbc to sound like ldac.
Please , when you are reviewing such high quality headphones , try doing so in a "100% Noise Floor FREE" environment .... Double Check the Preamps of your mic/audio recorder , as well ....... There is a very LOW Humming Noise in the backround , that almost got me crazy ..... I thought it was coming through my Bose QuietComfort 35 II headphones. I almost broke the headphones on the wall , thinking there was a flaw because of the humming that was coming out of them. :) Thank you for the information provided through your In-Depth comparison. Very hlelpful. Keep walking !
Sonys = 280$, B&W = 400$. Enough said. In terms of sound quality its just about your own opinion. The sonys doesn´t sound objectively inferior than other 400$ headphones.
That is wrong. For the general listener who dont know higher tier quality probably. But if you like high fidelity audio you will appreciate something like the Momentums far more than the XM3s. But great if you dont get the difference so you can save a bit of money
"However with leatherette, the durability is going to be better than natural leather..." That has got to be the joke of the century. I have leather boots that were used in WW2, and are still perfectly usable. Meanwhile my 1000$ headphones with "high quality" leatherette ear pads started flaking within a year or two. The only reason not to use natural leather is to save money. Speaking as a designer, I wish leatherette was banned from use - it makes any product a ticking time bomb, by giving them a finite lifespan.
"a bit of a clamp" understatement of the year. These are goddamn uncomfortable, way too heavy as well. Sad to see another reviewer drinking the koolaid. If you are trying to build an audience, honesty is key. You just lost a possible subscriber.
UPDATE: 10/15/19
It has come to my attention that the PX7 does suffer from sound degradation when the ANC is activated on max. It’s still not as bad as the sound quality hit the PX faces when max ANC is engaged but it’s still a problem nonetheless. Compared to ANC turned off, the sound signature of the PX7 gets a bit warmer sounding and closed in. I can deal with that a bit. However, the big issue I have is at higher volumes there is some sort of dynamic range or volume limiter in effect that hurts some of the fidelity in the music. It happens at all volumes, but it’s more apparent at higher volumes. For example, when I’m listening at a volume level where I want to feel immersed into the music and rock out, the volume on certain frequencies in the music raises and lowers as to not distort the speaker. When I turn off the ANC, this phenomenon doesn’t occur which leads me to believe B&W implemented this to purposely restrain your music from distorting the speaker whilst ANC is active. This doesn’t happen with my Sony WH1000XM3 or Sennheiser Momentum 3 Wireless when they both have their ANC on max. In terms of sound, the PX7 is now behind both the Momentum’s and Sony’s for me now as a result of this.
Huge Bummer. Really hoped that this wont happen. I will receive my pair today and will see what it can handle. If its as bad as it seems i will return them and wait because none of the current options seems to fit as well. Why did you just noticed it now?
Vendetta xRiich I noticed it on day 1 but believed it was the sound signature until I really dived in yesterday and played all types of music that really causes it to initiate the volume limiter. If you don’t listen a bit above moderate volume it’s not a hugely noticeable issue.
How did you find this out. I have listened to the PX7 and havent heard anything like this? Do you think they can fix this with an update?
Craig Olsen Could be fixable by an update. Listen to the song Dominator Mode by S.P.Y at around 75% volume. When the bass drops, cycle between ANC off and High and listen to the dynamics. You’re gonna hear the volume limiter in effect.
@@TheGamingAudiophile I am not sure what to say. I listened to the song about 12 times and didn't really hear a huge difference. Maybe my ears arent as good as yours. There was some change in the base but not a massive change. I really appreciate the fact that you always get back to me. I am just trying to see if these are the right fit for me as the momentum 3 and the xm3 didn't do it for me.
Wow! Did not expect to find this detailed review on CZcams. Thank you so much for a very informative video, just what I was looking for!
You did a really thorough, thoughtful review; thank you! I really appreciate the way you compared the properties of the sound they both produce along with how that impacts the listening experience with different types of music.
Sound quality comparison is at 21:01
Cheers for that 🤙🍻
Thanks so much for the comparison. Question, did you burn the headphones in? I realize that there’s some controversy around wether or not its actually effective. But I own a set of PX that have improved over time in respect of sound quality. Lows have become more plumb.
J E I left them playing pink noise for 10 hours.
TheGamingAudiophile how does the px7 vs P7 wireless vs momentum 3 ?
I have a iFI Audio Nano iDSD Black Label DAC/Headphone amp with iFI OTG-C Cable.
Do you think i can use this with my px7?
I don't even know what it'll do to the sound.
Any ideas?
I know this is late but as I have recently gotten the PX7s myself, I was interested in hearing what others experience with regarding their sound and I think I agree with almost everything you said. The most important thing you mentioned was actually that the headphones sound more like your in a concert theatre while the Sony’s are much more of a closed space (to me they sound like you’re in the studio with the artist) and I think that’s what makes the PX7s stand out to me. It’s very true that live music sounds amazing and it does seem like B&W were trying to go for that theatric/arena sound that is similar to their speakers. They took a very different approach. Where the B&W really shine because of the wide soundstage and pinpoint accurate bass reproduction is with gaming, movies, and cinematic/entertainment. A lot of headphone reviewers don’t talk about that much but with those, the PX7 does amazing and I’ve not heard another headphone of its kind match it in that way. Versatility is also a win.
Man i really appreciate you! Thank you for being that detailed. Nice work!
Quick correction: A year ago Bowers and Wilkins updated the packaging of the PX and included a hard shell case. Still amazing review
Thanks for the review, I'm more into music that's been live recorded, therefore, I need the instruments to sound accurate / natural, with resolution, timbre & decay. From what I gather in your review, the PX7 sounds more natural, is that correct?
Great and very detailed review thanks very much. Thinking about picking up the PX7 (I've had the original PX since launch) but the comments regarding sound quality degradation at higher volumes make me worry a bit. Is it only with ANC on or does the issue also exist whilst ANC is off? Do they sound better after breaking in (like the PX)?
So helpful! Thanks for the in-depth review! I have one more to ask: How is PX7's increased pressure when turning the ANC on? And which has a more comfortable ear pressure in ANC mode, sony or PX7? Thanks.
Excellent review and great narrative on the sound signatures. For your next video please pick up a closer mic so we can pick up your voice a bit better
Thank you very much bro. I am proud to order my px7's
I bought the 1000xm3 and had them for 3 weeks until I saw the PX7 announced and returned them, The Sony were nice but had a few annoyances such as: don't sound good out of the box unless equalized, not able to connect to two devices at once, no automatic connection when turned on, unreliable touch controls, no auto turn off unless bluetooth is disconnected. Some of these are issues that my 100€ 4 year old Plantronics Backbeat Sense didn't have, so it felt underwhelming for a pair of 300€ cans. I bought the PX7 today and can't wait to try them in a few days!
Couldn't agree more - I have both the PX and 1000xm3, and all these Sony annoyances are a major minus for the Sony's, which most reviewers tend to not highlight at all. What good is 20/30 hour battery life if it doesn't auto turn off, such that so often it's just worn out to zero when you left them for a day and now want to use them again? The touch control issues are also a major minus for me - I've had them so often make unwanted phone calls as a result of it deciding I touched it and told it to do something. And Sony still not supporting multiple devices years after most others is yet another non-insignificant hassle point. Plus having to choose between enabling an EQ to get a nice sound, or disabling it so as to be able to allow a high quality codec be used, is a further minus.
The only minus for me with the PX's (whose sound I prefer already - any improvements in the PX7's are just a big bonus on that front) has been the weight (due to it leading to discomfort when wearing for long periods), and now that the PX7's solve this issue, I'm really looking forward to getting them and expecting to be then only using them going forward. Plus my PX's were bought a while ago with the soft case (I understand newer ones already came with a hard case), so the hard case will be nice too.
Excellent review! I have both of these and completely agree with everything that you have said. Thank you
I went for the B&W PX7s, simply because I like a all round good sound unlike what most people go for which is your typical bass which ruins the music for me. The Sony mx3s were good sound but from what reviews say, they don't last long as the sound is known to fade over time and develop crackly sound not to mention the material feeling cheap to me but yet still comfy. Overall, I think everyones hearing is different in a unique way when it comes to music and videos, but for me the B&W are a fantastic game changer with good quality sound and I can safely say they were better than my Bose QC 35ii.
Edit: had to return B&W as they did not work well with my phone, the sound was muddy and they kept disconnecting, I swapped them for Sennheiser Momentum 3s which sounded much better!
How are you liking your momentum 3's so far? I'm on the fence between them and the Sony's. I'm a bit concerned with the EQ that the Senny app has. Seems like an odd way to EQ music.
You should do an update video compared to the 1000XM3 and the Senny M3! All the other videos on CZcams are first impressions or don't really go in-depth after a week+ of use.
Thanks!
Are you able to increase the volume when the ambient passthrough is on? Thanks.
Was planning to have either one of these, tried out the xm3 earlier and it is comfortable. In terms of sound not including the ANC, which is the better choice?
Hi mate, awesome channel and reviews! will you be reviewing the new Sony 1000XM4? and one quick question, which would be the better overall package in terms of sound, built quality, and ANC between XM3 and Momentum 3? Thanks very much.
Thanks man, was waiting on this comparison. Looks like the PX7 is a winner and might be day one buy for me. Literally the only thing I didn't like about the OG PX was that it was uncomfortable to wear in the shop and I couldn't see myself actually enjoying using it while walking around. If the clamping and hard earpads are fixed in the PX7 then it is great news.
How would you compare the momentum 3 to the px7. I just got my px7 today I got emotional when listening to some violin tracks the separation and detail on acoustics is amazing. I do miss base from time to time but it can get a bit over whelming. What I do wish is that the px7 had a little more customisation in the app maybe an eq. But yeah what do you think of the momentum 3
I'm defenetly going to get the PX7, as an owner of the old P7, I really got fan of Browsers and Wilkins. This review just underlines my opinion, well done!
please give us your feedback of P7 vs PX7. i own P7 wireless and i would not hesitate saving for the the PX7 if it matches or surpasses
@Kamar Enanaa I don't think you can give an honest assessment re: sound difference considering the P7's have been Burned in quite a bit vs the new PX7 just firing up. You should have waited a while before responding to give a more true listening feedback.
I have a P7, and I owned Senn Momentum 2. I really liked P7. Now I’m gonna get the PX7.
Just a very small correction. My B&W PX came with a hardshell case as well. I think the later releases all do, as I got them replaced due to a fault in the minijack around july this year :-)
Great review, thanks. I just returned the Sony M3s after trying them for a week. As TheGamingAudiophile points out, I believe they are more suitable for bass intensive music. I listen to mostly classical and jazz and the M3’s were just way too boomy for me. I tried EQing them, but I just didn’t like the sound. I’m going the try the PX7s. Hopefully the bass is a bit more subdued and not boomy. I have B&W 704 tower speakers and they are awesome. I hope the PX7s will exhibit similar characteristics in terms on sound quality. I know I’m comparing apples to oranges, but a cleaner sound than the M3s would be great. We’ll see...
Hi mate, I remember the H9 was the king in your previous rating but seeing some comments below, is there a new king in regards to ANC and Sound Quality headphones now?
Do you know if battery last longer when using the headphone jack than bluetooth? Or is it the same?
Good comparison review. One thing that people should know about that needs correcting though. You said that synthetic leather is more durable than genuine leather. The complete opposite is true. Genuine leather is much longer lasting than synthetic leather.
You’re lucky to get anywhere near 2 years of heavy usage out of a pair ear pads made from fake leather. Just ask most people who’ve ever owned the Bose QC35. As long as they’re gently cleaned with a moist towel periodically, ear pads made from quality genuine leather will last many years. They may even outlast the rest of the headphone components. “Pleather” ear pads get you the opposite result...they are usually the weak link in a pair of headphones...the first part that needs replacing.
I have Bose QC35 (first gen) and pads are pretty much still as new despite 3.5 years of usage. They don’t feel like real leather to me but they are definitely super comfy and durable.
The "GAMING" audiophile! Great job sir!
Except he doesn't mention gaming once (on this vid)! But great review.
How do you feel in regards to sound quality between the PX and the PX7 with ANC off on both?
Thank you for confirming the material used on the PX7 is leatherette and not genuine leather. That was a big concern of mine and I hadn’t seen anyone else address that.
Hi TheGamingAudiophile, I wonder if you could take a look at some of the options I have for wired gaming headphones that I plan to convert into wireless via a Bluetooth dongle from Mpow:
Blon Bosshifi B8
Takstar Pro 82
Philips SHP9500
Thanks.
Update 2:
I have tried the Headphones a little longer. No matter what NC Mode your using. At higher Volumes the Bass is capped to a certain degree. It really sounds weird when a song which normally has more Bass just gets flat. Its definitely something that they could fix with software but i dont expect them to do so to be honest. Nevertheless when you turn Nc off these will blow your mind. They have pretty great passive noise isolation and the sound is sooo clean. Like i said the Sound review is on point. Its so good i even think about keeping them as Non NC Headphones.
I have the mx3 for about 3 months. They sound fine to me, but I'm not an audiophile so I haven't got a high bar set for that.
I don't have that creaking headband that you have at 1:32 . Maybe a bit of silicone spray might help yours?
Comfort was very high on my wish list and I haven't been disappointed with the mx3s.
The noise cancelling is almost surreal, so I'm super happy with that.
But I do miss not having dual bluetooth connectivity. I have one device connected for calls and one as audio and that works as a work around. But if I want to connect to a third device I have to go through the pairing process.
But they are very, very comfortable, so I am still happy with them.
Reason I'm planning on getting the px7 and not the xm3 is Bluetooth 5.0
Updare: 1/7/20 I decided to return them and instead got the bose 700 and not looking back. Love the touch pad control, sound quality, and the built in Google assistant, plus got it in white which I love, these headphones look sexy ass hell
Who cares about the colour or touch controls, it's only about the sound quality
Can you say something about Beyerdynamic Lagoon ? Im thinking about Lagoon and PX7.
Marcin Jasiński Haven’t heard the Lagoons. I’ll try and get my hands on them.
Thanks for review.
TIP: when you are talking about a specific headset please hold it. This will help when viewers fast-forward, so we know which headset your comments are related to
Guys !! Question for you: if you have the choice between sony xm4 or the audio technica ath-m50xbt2, which one do you choose?
I want the best sound quality… i have the xm4, but i hesitate to buy the xbt2. Am i better with the sennheiser m3?
So i want a better sound than the xm4. I love the sony’s but i don’t think they are « wow » for the sound.
I have the skullcandy crusher evo and i have a lot more fun to listen to than the xm4. But after one hour of listening, the bass is wayyyy to loud hahah it’s annoying for the ears. So i want an excellent pair of headphones, good bass, but with an excellent soundstage and excellent audio reproduction.
Wow, the BW sounds like it’s a fantastic headphone. About the Bose, Is it possible that if you turn the volume on your phone to the second highest tick and then after that, control the volume from the headphone itself, the sound won’t fall apart?
headphonejedi master that is correct that how your suppose to use the Bose with there special volumized equalization to reep the benefits. Turn volume on your phone to one notch below max the only use headphone to control volume going forward.
On iPhone or iPad or MacBook which are the devices I use, the media volume is synced with the headphone. So I cannot independently control the volume on the headset and source.
TheGamingAudiophile I use the same devices you do. Yes the volume goes up and down on the MacBook or iPhone when I push buttons on the headset, but nevertheless, if you do it that way, the DSP works better
headphonejedi master Either way I do it whether it’s from the device or from the headphone, the frequency response changes are the same.
TheGamingAudiophile I am sorry, I guess I can’t help. Maybe there’s somebody else or Google can help with it
Funny, I emailed them about the leather issue 5-6 years ago. Very happy to see they ditched the sheepskin. Now they are about to get another customer :)
Much awaited review🔥
Wow that’s amazing. Just a quick question ; I have those two , would it be worth getting PX7 for $400 or just roll with P7W and XM3?
The PX7 ticks the most boxes in this category, but the XM3 is still the better option for most. It has the best noise cancelling, better comfort, adjustable sound and a lower price tag. What genres of music do you typically listen to?
Jazz , 80s-90R&B stuff like Zero7 ,Air Boards of Canada down tempo chill
I've been looking forward to this my man! As someone who likes cleanish sound (Sennheiser HD650), as opposed to the muddled crap you get with XM3, I'm hoping these challenge the Sony on the ANC front and definitely the audio front.
The ANC on the Sony's are seriously amazing, but their sound quality... is really quite bad.
Are you thinking of looking into the PX5 as well, as they're significantly cheaper, but I can imagine on ear not really being that good for ANC as they lose out on the passive cancellation.
sinetwo I may try out the PX5 but generally I don’t like on ear designs that much. There are a few that sound great tho.
Also, I really enjoy the way the Sony's sound. It's a full, warm and pleasant listening experience. Would never call them bad.
What does sound stage mean ?
Went ahead and Ordered the px7 in silver yesterday, will be receiving on Monday, crossing my fingers I don't hear the issues with the volume limiter.
how is your purchase? Im also thinking between PX7 and Bose 700, dont want to make mistake because I tried Bose's and wasn't happy about its sound quality, think they lack of bass little bit
Should also test Dali Io 4 & 6
I had a wired pair of P7's a couple years ago, incredible sound and they were some sexy-ass cans - I would always have people commenting on how cool they looked.
With the way you love great sound, I think you'd appreciate the sound quality on the NAD HP 70. I own them with the Sony xm3 and they sound significantly better and the Sony's already sound great.
Great review! One question: Is it correct that you cannot use ANC on the PX7 while using the 3.5mm jack?
Yes, you can use ANC with the 3.5mm jack.
If I upgrade my PX to PX7, is it a substantial upgrade? In terms of sound quality, anc, and comfort.. thanks! Love your review
damn, i have the same question and was hoping there'd be an answer
Its because px7 is made out of carbon fiber. They made the best sound of the B&W line and adjusted even more for perfect sound quallity. Every audiofile is recomending them.
When you tilt your head does it roll off your head? The swivels are really shitty
Quick Update from me:
Today received the Px7. I really think its not the right choice for most. First they are a little quite. At 100% its okay but definitly not loud enough for my taste. Momentum an Xm3s are a lot louder. Furthermore comfort is better on Sennheiser and Xm3s as well. Build quality i think is really good and somewhere between the Sennheiser and the Xm3s. Soundwise the review is quite on point. I will give them back to B&W for sure. I probably will switch to the Momentums. Only problem is the battery life but i want better looks/ build then the Sonys. NC is great enough for daily travel like train and bus. For flights go with Sony for sure
Vendetta xRiich At 100% volume try to listen to some bass heavy music and compare it to the momentum’s and Sony’s and let me know if you hear the sound on certain frequencies going up and down.
@@TheGamingAudiophile yeah! Its sooo annoying. Sounds like some frequencies just go to a certain point and then are capped. It sounds really bad. Sennheiser will hopefully fit me better
How do the PX7 sound compared to the P7 wireless? I have the XM3 and they are not even close o the P7W .
jeremyw000 The PX7 is actually tuned similarly to the P7 but with a bigger soundstage.
@@TheGamingAudiophile thats the comparison that i have been waiting for.....thanks
First of all, excellent review!
So much content and you didn’t ramble. Just the straight goods!
Quick question- are the earpads on the PX7 replaceable? If not, that’s a bit of a red flag for me. If they were replaceable, I would likely pick them up very soon.
Also, do you see the clamping force being problematic for eyeglass wearers?
I’ve been looking for a pair of headphones to replace my B&O H7. I know there are better sounding headphones but I love the design language of B&Os headphones and construction quality- the anodized aluminum and actual lambskin leather (which has lasted very well despite 3+ years of heavy use) are awesome.
mohamedahmed1023 Hey there and glad you enjoyed the review. The PX7 does have removable pads via a snap in system. The clamping force might be problematic with glasses. Also, the PX7 are sensitive to an improper seal which can cause the bass to reduce.
How are you Gamingaudiophile in ur honest opinion for overear wireless if you had to choose right now what would be ur pick for best NC headphones including everything from sound to comfort and battery life!
Joseph Davenport Sony WH1000Xm3
@@TheGamingAudiophile I was hoping you would say that because they're on sale right now for $279
How about comparison of noise cancellation performance?
Alex Wang It’s in this video.
Worth upgrading from the PX? I've had them 2 years and love them to bits but would pay for these if there's a substantial increase in sound quality.
olgil The increase in sound isn’t drastic. The PX7 is more spacious and the sound isn’t destroyed when max ANC is on like the PX. Also, I feel that the PX7 is much more comfortable to wear than the PX.
@@TheGamingAudiophile Sound is destroyed when ANC MAX is on? What a bullshit?! Oh you are a Sony user, poor boy.
@@38201270298 what?
Great detailed review man, the video is a bit hard to watch however due to the focus hunting, I would have just left it in manual focus or you could always do a talking head video :)
Do the PX7's work on Xbox one?
Between Sennheiser momentum 3 and Bowers PX7 which one is better to hear heavy metal?
PX7 soundstage means it's for gaming, movies making them realistic, and better for rock, or heavy metal. Cheers
Great detailed video as usual! I'm considering buying the PX7's (kinda decided already) and I want to cement my decision..... how would you compare the sound quality of the PX to the PX7?
The PX7 is more v shaped but spacious sounding than the PX.
@@TheGamingAudiophile Great thanks! :)
Can you use the Bowers & Wilkins PX7 with wire?
Yes there is a port under right cup 3.5 mm i think or something like that
Yes, but the PX7 needs to have a battery charge.
@@TheGamingAudiophile is there any sound difference between wired and bluethooth
@@nino_kO1 Very subtle, but through wired the Sony is a bit colder. I prefer the Bluetooth sound.
@@TheGamingAudiophile thank you
Very very gud review
Wow, thanks for the review! Best one I've seen yet on the PX7. I just got mine. I know nothing about the Sony headphones. But, I think you describe the sound of the PX7 very accurately. I'm in the sound camp of these Bowers & Wilkins.
The two device connection is a plus as I switch between my iPhone 11 Pro, and iPad Pro all the time. Did you find the sound changed switching between devices? I thought I detected something going on when I did that.
I just wish the B&W app. in iOS would allow just a little equalization. The soundstage on the PX7's blew me away! Is one better than the other, of course note. Everyone has different taste, and different music. But for jazz, rock, blues, indie I'm loving how the PX7 treats those music genres. Also the battery life seems great on the PX7 vs. my former PX headphones.
Quick question. When you compare the sound are you turning the noise reduction off?
When switching between devices via Bluetooth I didn’t detect any sound changes. Also when comparing the sound it is with ANC on max on both.
You are the best.
I got these. Very comfortable. Sound quality is brilliant . First day, sensor was working. Now not working. Sounds leak too. Can hear everything without wearing too loud. :(.
Yeap the Sound Leak is real with this one. Dont know how that could happen
I'm torn between the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H9 3rd Gen and the Bowers & Wilkins PX7. Music quality wise is it worth going the extra hundred dollars for B&O?
Or will there be a comparison video coming?
I’d choose the PX7 even if the H9 3rd gen was $150.
Thanks for helping me out.
I never really like the sound of the 1000xm3 that much. It was OK. Just thought it was too muddy and dark. Too much mid bass without enough deep bass visceral impact. The EQ Improves things but still couldn't get the impact I wanted. Bass was simply too loose.
Anyway I felt the qc35 sounded significantly better. I would turn the volume up on my android phone and the volume down on the headphones (so that the bass can stay strong and low treble not be harsh).
I even felt the hear.on 2 was significantly better than the 1000xm3. It was more clear with a more visceral impact in the bass. Also you can EQ the hear.on 2 to sound like the 1000xm3 (why would anyone do that though lol).
Adjusting the EQ (lowering the bass by moving the slider slightly down and to the right) to the momentum 3 made them sound better than anything I heard EVER. Even better than my 58x jubilee (if that is possible).
h1a8 The XM3 to me sounds very full and rich. A warm sound that’s forgiving and pleasant to listen to. I love it. I don’t hear any bass looseness. It’s quite controlled but definitely not accurate. The subbass is also very well extended.
The QC35 to me sounds better than the NC 700. The active EQ is less aggressive. The QC35 sounds well balanced with a nice and clear sound packing a great soundstage. The problem I have with the QC35 is that it’s old and doesn’t have the newer features of the Sony XM3 or B&W PX7. The Sony’s sound more engaging and full than the QC35 while the QC35 sounds more balanced and clearer but not as engaging.
I’ve tried the Momentum’s when EQ’d and yes the sound is more balanced but the mediocre noise cancelling makes them go from sounding different to the XM3 to sounding worse when commuting in loud environments. Which is why they are not in top 3 within this category.
The PX7 sounds more nuanced than the Momentum’s thanks to the bigger soundstage allowing more of the instruments to breathe along with superior noise cancelling and longer battery life. The Momentum’s quite simply cannot compete.
The Sony’s are probably still the best ANC headphones for most people thanks to the lower price, best noise cancelling, warm and forgiving sound while still being quite detailed that’s also adjustable tonally, stellar comfort and vast array of features except dual Bluetooth pairing.
The PX7 is hands down the most well rounded ANC headphone out on the market now tho.
@@TheGamingAudiophile
Thank you. I agree with you mostly. I did find the 1000xm3 very warm and easy to listen to (very relaxing). I just hated that it didn't have enough visceral bass impact for me. Maybe the midbass was drowning out the subbass? As far as clarity, I was able to EQ them to achieve a great level of clarity (so that wasn't a problem). Just wanted the bass to be tighter and more visceral and the soundstage a little bigger.
Can't wait to try the px7. I'm hyped.
I agree with you! The Sony WH-1000XM3 is not clear! I have the PX7 and love them, but I just bought the Sennheiser Momentum 3 because the sound clarity is a bit better to my ears and even though the battery is lower, I want the best sound possible.
Bose introduced another equalizer with the latest software update.
I put a few drops of household oil down into the seams of the headband on the Sonys...NO CREAKING SOUNDS in the plastic at all.
PROBLEM SOLVED! 😉
I have a pair of bose qc35. Do both of these sound substantially better
It’s amazing that even new headphones can’t beat Sony‘s one-year-old ANC. Well done Sony!
No, had them and had to give them back.
1:40 All sony headphones do that so the build quality is just worst at the price/maybe after beats
Love my PX 7's
Which one gets louder?
Xm3s or Px7s
buddahlushious XM3.
@@TheGamingAudiophile I just ordered PX7. I tried XM3's and sounds pretty good. I ordered PX7 because of build quality and im sure sound quality.. eventhough i haven't listened to px7s.
Which is better for gaming?
px7
Men i need an opinion. I still trying the Px7 every Second i have. I think they sound amazing without Anc and okayish with Anc on. Now i dont know if i should return them to get the Momentum or keep the Px7 and just use anc if necessary. Sony arent an option because i dont like the Build and the sound without EQ isnt my taste. With Eq the codec drops to sbc which is hideous
I am in the same boat as you. I dont really see the down grade is sound but want to make sure that I am completely happy.
@@craigolsen1916 yeah to be honest im definitely more on the Sennheiser Side. I love the Sound Signature of the Momentums. It matches my preferences and i can even tune it with the EQ. Looks are for sure better on the Momentum because the Px7 are really wide with the headband and the feel of real leather just isnt matched yet. Only real concern is the battery life and travel case. I will probably just buy a hard shell case and a good usbc cable (headphones can be used via a usbc wire) ANC is good enough for normal use in bus and train i guess. For Flights i would stay with the Px7.
Overall im just not willing to compromise for a few hours of battery life and a litte bit of ANC for superior sound, feel and features
@@letslachflash I found that the Momentums bothered my ears so I returned them. For me the battery life is a big factor as I dont want to charge them every single day. I love the way th PX7 sound and feel and am ok with a small sound downgrade when I need anc turned on. Either way I think both sets have positives and negatives. Bower and Wilkins can change the sound through an update but a weak battery can never be fixed is how I look at it.
@@craigolsen1916 the problem is, its not small. I hear lots of different music and some is bass heavy. You literally cant use these headphones with Anc and bass heavy music. Huge bummer. Furthermore B&W wont fix anything. They didnt even do anything with the awful sound with Anc on the og PX. Comfort is for sure subjective. I like both (Px7 more for going around, momentum when you dont move as much) and yeah battery is a point but charge every day? I hear lots of music but not over 8 hours a day (on headphones at least). I will get away with it by just having a usbc cable with me when necessary and just charge them every 2-3 days. Definitely worth the improvements in terms of Sound.
How's the volume difference?
MrBravo143 XM3 is a bit louder however it is prone to distortion when ANC is on. The PX7 doesn’t get as loud but the music doesn’t distort even with ANC at max volume. However, the PX7 has some sort of dynamic range limiter in place when the volume is very close to max or at max volume which messes with the fidelity of the music.
@@TheGamingAudiophile hi, some people reported rattle from right ear cup buttons. Is it common or isolated issue? Thanks
@@MrBravo143 My buttons has a very slight rattle but it doesn't feel like they will fall off. I will monitor them and report if any issues occur.
Too bad the real leather is gone. Much much much more durable than leatherette! But finally they seem to fix the anc sound quality which dropped on the px. I am ordering the px7. But i really hate the fact they moved away from leather. It made the headphone way more premium.
You need recording anc work and microphone work on recorder.
I don't think is fare to compare a device that is like more than a year old and now days cheaper to a new device that has a bigger price tag , now days you can get the Sony headset like at 250 bucks
"Various size of earses"
Lol that was quick
1:25 damn! So many ears that you had to say 'earses'. I don't know if I would've picked it up if you didn't immediately correct yourself
PX7 has HUGE bass. If you say XM3 has even more bass than PX7 I can't even imagine how overbearing that bass must be
With my Sony's, I hate how the sound changes so much with noise cancellation on, or ambient mode with vocal focus on. The sound just goes to shit. Sound becomes way too thick, too warm, male vocals become too chesty.
Additionally, the apps EQ can fix the balance of sound but doing so disables ldac which is the Sony's main technological advantage it has. Hmmm
@3:15 - mine "broke and snapped up on me". :(
Sony being bitches about it so some resin and duct tape holding them together now.
My Sony’s snapped and broke up on me too. Sony also negated warranty because a manufacturing defect too! Total bitches Sony compared to Bose and Sennheiser
The bose probably suffers from an inferior driver. Bose is long know for using active crossovers to fix mediocre speakers. Dsp can only do so much.
I got my Sony brand new for $220 :D
Bowers wilkins this is not a Sony phonics is a pedigree
I bought these and I don't like them. They are a pretty boring sounding pair of headphones, IMO. Voices don't sound too great through them, the treble is unremarkable, and the bass isn't deep enough for my liking. The headphones aren't very loud, and there isn't even much of a soundstage for an over the ear pair of headphones. They are also too bulky for outdoor use, IMO. The worst thing about these headphones is their flimsy feel that makes me worry about breaking them every time I pick them up with one hand instead of two. This is unacceptable for a £300+ pair of headphones. The one positive is that these headphones will keep your ears warm in the winter.
I also own Sennheiser Momentum first generation headphones. The Sennheiser's are more robust and do everything (sound quality-wise) much better than the Sony headphones whilst at the same time being much smaller and portable.
Du Juan you obviously have zero experience with actual hifi... get some cheap jbl headphones, and you’ll have all of the unbalanced bass you require..
its f... simple.Harman have one of the best sound profiles,sony sound good but... something resist and something like bass too much,not controdel,thats why ldacs and lot of features theres is to try fix by ur self.And Harman enought only sbc to sound like ldac.
Please , when you are reviewing such high quality headphones , try doing so in a "100% Noise Floor FREE" environment ....
Double Check the Preamps of your mic/audio recorder , as well .......
There is a very LOW Humming Noise in the backround , that almost got me crazy .....
I thought it was coming through my Bose QuietComfort 35 II headphones.
I almost broke the headphones on the wall , thinking there was a flaw because of the humming that was coming out of them. :)
Thank you for the information provided through your In-Depth comparison. Very hlelpful. Keep walking !
It's my air cleaning unit. Sorry.
Im definitely getting the bw when the drop to half price in a year or more
That’s very unlikely
I heard from a reliable source they will be having a fairly decent deal the week before Black Friday
@MonsterM $350 USD Bowers & Wilkins PX7 Over Ear Wireless Bluetooth Headphone, Adaptive Noise Cancelling - Space Grey www.amazon.com/dp/B07WK5XT8T/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_olf3DbS86EE97
Sonys = 280$, B&W = 400$. Enough said. In terms of sound quality its just about your own opinion. The sonys doesn´t sound objectively inferior than other 400$ headphones.
That is wrong. For the general listener who dont know higher tier quality probably. But if you like high fidelity audio you will appreciate something like the Momentums far more than the XM3s. But great if you dont get the difference so you can save a bit of money
@@letslachflash ok my friend. i talked about the Bowers & Wilkins. But yes the Sennheisers sounds better than the sonys.
@@mrright884 ah yeah for sure. There are of course other 400$ headphones that sound worse then the Sonys.
Haha ahah I get the headphones of £80 not £348
you bring up bs did bw buy you?
You have to be a activist to care about animals weird comment
"However with leatherette, the durability is going to be better than natural leather..." That has got to be the joke of the century. I have leather boots that were used in WW2, and are still perfectly usable. Meanwhile my 1000$ headphones with "high quality" leatherette ear pads started flaking within a year or two. The only reason not to use natural leather is to save money. Speaking as a designer, I wish leatherette was banned from use - it makes any product a ticking time bomb, by giving them a finite lifespan.
Are you all really going to listen to someone who can't even edit his voice to the mid?
"a bit of a clamp" understatement of the year. These are goddamn uncomfortable, way too heavy as well. Sad to see another reviewer drinking the koolaid. If you are trying to build an audience, honesty is key. You just lost a possible subscriber.
Are the PX7's really as uncomfortable as people say?