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USA Drop Bombshell On F1 After Leaked Documents!
Adrian Newey this, Adrian Newey that, we New-ey Adrian would be leaving a week ago and frankly until we get more information as to where he’s going to wind up in the new regulations or it it turns out that Newey was the Red Bull employee receiving raunchy WhatsApp messages from Horner, there’s really nothing more of substance to be said on the matter. So let’s talk about something very real that’s going on and is pertinent to the upcoming weekend shall we? Like how the weekend that the F1 circus rolls into Miami, the US Congress has decided to back Andretti’s corner and threaten in pretty plain words to make life very difficult on F1 and Liberty Media if they don’t play fair in the future. In a shocking twist, an American did not immediately go straight to litigation, but Michael Andretti seems to have gone one step beyond even that by bringing the American law makers themselves into the fold in a PR masterclass. The timing is perfect, with the very same race weekend that saw Andretti practically begging to get in to F1 all those years ago, now being the perfect platform to launch a new offensive and one that may not so easily be shrugged off in a dismissive press release.
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So someone like Red Bull can have 2 teams and that adds value, but Andretti with its racing pedigree doesn't add value. What a joke.
You did ht the nail in the head there, it's most likely the existing teams putting pressure about the prize money, a 11th team would split that money even further.
Both redbull chassis where existing teams. Big difference
It would be great watching an American team following the HAAS team.
@@geoffreyanderson1758 Big difference?? What's the "big difference"? Oh wait, I guess the big difference is that the incoming team would be American and that would lower Toto's profits.
Andretti could have bought Minardi.
Why didn't he?
Andretti will bring a spare chasis
Andretti is surely capable of building a competitive F1 car. Good luck Team Andretti.
Please stop!
LOL. keep dreaming.
Based on what?
Feelings?
@@yt.personal.identification Kowledge.
@@josvandencamp8441 Hope
Would be funny if Newey signs a deal with Anddretti that would sought Liberty out.
That Monza joke is top tier
Yes, it completely exposes the undercurrent of American hate from F1 Fanatics.
@@chipsawdust5816 Its just a joke. Just like the exclusion of Andretti
8:32
Here’s the joke, JIC you missed it
It's funny, because it's true.
@@chipsawdust5816 Also. Most people differ between The United States and its people and politicians and their foreign policies
Wait, non competitive teams don't benefit F1, but F1 keeps Williams around based on what ? The name "Williams"? As if Andretti is not a name, same as Williams
Myself being Canadian, I would have a team worth cheering for, I never cheered for the Strolls, their arrogance was front and center, that turned me off of them from the get go, I've read about and watched Mario Andretti for many decades and would gladly cheer on a North American team, even though I am not a Chebby (Cadillac) fan, better Andretti than the Stroll clown show
F1 has always been a Euocentric sport. It is only greed for American dollars that there are any of the new tracks. When the US Grand Prix was held at Watkins Glen, it attracted dedicated fans. Now it's all glitz and celebrities and a small percentage knowledgeable racing fans.
If F1 wants to be a closed club, then fine. Let them play in Europe and America has other forms of motor sports we can watch and participate in.
It is the Americans, who denied Andretti entry, while the FIA approved them.
@gtracer6629 wow you are an idiot. Ot was a amarican company LIM that disapproved andretti to join, while the EUROPEANS FIA approved andretti.
And if your claimed should be true, how is Ford allowed to join?
@@bigezg
Wrong. It was the F1 teams that did. The team managers have final say.
For years America did not want F1 on its shores and has always wanted everything to only be run the American Way but they have now changed their mind. Payback time!
@@glynchallinor1874, what years are you talking about? Since I started watching or paying attention to F1, there were F1 races in the US, in tracks such as Watkins Glenn, Detroit, Dallas, even Las Vegas.
FOM; "GM=not competitive".
Also FOM; "Alpine=competitive."
Nothing about competitiveness (just an excuse), but all about money. You add 1 team, you have to split the cake 1 more time.
It's not Liberty Media or the FOM who want to deny Andretti, it's the other teams. And the other teams must accept, by vote, to welcome a new team.
So, it's not for today .
And Alpine, it's Renault, 12 times F1 motorist champion on the last 3 decades.
Or Williams, Sauber, HAAS etc
@@damienthimonier4900Alpine is NOT factory Renault. It is the remnants of Renault and amateurs in leadership and the pits.
@@lexus82su Alpine is the sports brand of Renault since they revive the brand Alpine in 2017, and cut Renault Sports a few years after. It can't be more Renault than that.
The team directly respond to Luca de Meo, the CEO of Renault. It's him who sake Laurent Rossi and Szafnauer last year.
It's not like he made a ton of interviews about it last year ...
That is my gripe exactly. Right now there are only one or two teams that can be honestly considered competitive. It's hardly worth running the races right now, and honestly it's getting quite boring and monotonous. F1 is NOT a competitive series overall. Maybe next year?
If Andretti does find a way to muscle their way it, they had better be competitive now because this is really taking it up a notch.
Formula 1 has become a closed club of elites, unwilling to share the pie, despite claiming to be international. Blind greed has backed them into a corner. The FIA and LIberty Media have no option other than to admit the US. The status quo has become so pathetic, that any change could only be an improvement. Mario Andretti's legacy cannot be ignored. Besides, I'm sure any of the F1 World Champions would agree that they would welcome any competition: it is in the genes of the best drivers.
F1 teams IA have proven capable of being short-sighted & selfish regardless of the alternatives.
Like the NFL, MLB, etc...closed clubs...World championships from one country?
Mario was great but what about Michael Andretti in 1993. Michael embarrassed and brought shame on the Andretti family name. In any case Team Andretti could not find an American driver who can get an F1 super license. Let's face it, us American drivers don't know how to drive. Look at Logan Sargent, this certainly is his last year in F1 and this may even be his last race weekend.
If Liberty Media needs added incentive to admit Andretti to F1 Congress can always ban F1 from racing in the United States until they comply.
@@steves259I believe that no current F1 drivers care for the Miami or Las Vegas tracks. COTA is a good track though.
F1 has not had any decent close racing for years.
You obviously don’t watch it much if you’re dribbling that nonsense.
@@666Buzzsaw If you mean chasing runner up positions then yes. Otherwise No....
Right, so lets introduce another slow team to the mix, brilliant.
Being a proud Yank, I enjoyed the "Trash" line. Hahaha
hahah thats really cool , im dutch and i love the differences between the british and american english language. ✌🏻big love from the netherlands
As an American I hope we don't destroy f1 by doing things like adding ads in the middle of the race
Lol
They tried that in the UK a few years ago. It did NOT go well. So many critical moves were missed
I use to watch a cheaper channel in Australia 10years ago that did that. While it was kind of annoying, it did give you a bathroom break or get a cuppa ☕️ etc. and the local commentators made it so much better 😂 haha
@@venomau5speedz
You’re a ‘glass half full’ guy 👍
"We" does not enter into it
As a Constitutional American I hate government involvement in private affairs. I also as a F1 fan hate the dishonest , obvious greed that has blocked andretti and GM from entering F1 while allowing redbull to hold a second team slot that has nothing to offer anyone except red bull themselves
The fact is that most of our problems in the United States are caused by lack of term limits and failure to properly enforce antitrust and monopoly laws
Let's not forget Ferrari has their second team, HAAS, which is mid-field at best. For years they have been pathetic. Andretti couldn't be worse if it tried.
Wouldn't be competitive? What about Haas? They are a team that is overcome with joy if they get into Round 2 of Qualifying and falling over themselves if they ever get a point!
I hate that there is a budget cap. Formula 1 is supposed to be about spending as much money as you can to go as fast as you can. Once I understood that I enjoyed F1 even more. It is not as enjoyable with the budget cap. I have been watching since the 1980's.
You talk about Haas like they are the worst team when they are ahead of Williams, Sauber and Alpine in the constructors championship and only 2 points from 6th place.
Williams can't even put two proper cars in the race.
the budget cap is just smoke without fire and does not work whilst the top teams 5 of them all spend upto the budget cap the rest do not cause they can not afford to its the top teams that mostly agreed on the cap, a better way would be to say to a bottom team how much can you afford to spend for a season then set the cap at that, as for not including certain staff members wages such as drivers etc etc it just what a farce the cap is.
Would love to see an F1 Andretti Team!
Someone has to be last.
US has enough money & fans to create their own F1 competitor league. F1 & Liberty could lose a large portion of their investment if so. US would "traash" F1 & tell them "Thaanks" for the track layouts and early promotion. EU is dying out & they know it!
the power the 10teams have is not healty for the sport the rules should not be stopped by 1 team voting no
I've been watching the FIA fk up motorsports for 45 years, they won't ever change. They're like our criminal cartel police here, they do as they please because no one can punish them in a meaningful way. All American Racing Organisations should tell tje FIA to go pound sand, and stop kissing the ring of the socialist racing system.
Tbh I think this part that you just pointed out is the biggest American antitrust violation that congress can attack. In US antitrust laws currently companies can not be in agreements or collective that can keep new competitors from joining the market. I think this is what congress was hinting at in one of their questions.
I don’t think people realize how big of an issue this is for liberty media and F1. As liberty media is a US company and traded on the New York stock exchange they have to abide by US law and if they don’t, the US government can force the company to pretty much do whatever they want and even put Liberty media out of business if it came to it.
I call for all American F1 race fans to boycott all US Gran Prix races and merchandise until Andretti gets in. ....we gotta start somewhere.
Boohoo typical yank crying about not being able to have a spot in everything . It’s only in the last few years f1 even decided to have a race in your country in the new era
Haas? Andretti not doing that well in other Motor Sports including Indy
Im from the UK and think that Andretti would be a fantastic addition to F1 and should have been allowed in
The thing to do is to stop F1 from being in The American market until 2028, or until Andretti is made a part of regular F1.
As a non-American, I encourage you in these way ... If we can trade Miami and Las Vegas to get back to Hockenheim, i signed with 2 hands.
Nice to know that our government isn’t completely anti-American.
It's NOT the Government, it's the politicians and their masters, what George Carlin called the owners.
Technically no. Liberty Media has the last say and is a Colorado company...
Haha yea right.
Weird to see that once again US politicians decide to go against their own doctrine and try to "persuade" a business company to see things their way. What happened again to the US idea that "government should keep out of business and leave companies to do their own things"? Is that once again simply ignored because it's inconvenient in this situation?
The simple fact that Liberty Media is now the largest stakeholder in F1 doesn't mean that the US government has any say about how the F1 should be ran. Imagine the outrage in the US if the Japanese took a majority share in Indycar because Honda is a main contender in Indycar with its engines and all of a sudden demanded that Indycar should be forced to enter Japanese teams.
F1's position is based on previous bad experiences with US based teams showing no continuity: they came barging into F1 with much bragging and fanfare, utterly failing in reaching the targets they set for themselves and they either simply folded abruptly and left the or started incessantly whining that "they were being treated só unfair that they had no other choice than to leave F1."
Now I know many Americans try to argue that "European teams have done the same", but there is a big and obvious difference: European teams either buy out or start investing heavily into an existing team and when they fail to reach their targets, they sell off the team to the next interested party, meaning the team stays in F1, whereas with the US teams they've simply closed the doors and disappeared without a trace.
@@J5L5M6haha no when you have a monopoly that’s operating over state lines the federal government has the final say this is just a fact finding tactic if what gm claims is true and liberty tried separate gm and Andretti they should give up here because a civil lawsuit or criminal investigation would be embarrassing to liberty and would get all there communication with the teams in the public record embarrassing them too this was a much lighter step than a lawsuit it protects them from legal discovery while getting there point across
Well played by congress, they are spot on for once, love it.
Simply put , I have not watched a F1 race all season and will not until this is resolved with a pore American team competing in F1!
Since they will also own MotoGP, Liberty must yield. Level the playing field , or a rocky road ahead Mr Sulayem.
Sulayem is not Liberty Media. He is head of FIA.
Really hoping that Justice is served....... should have never ever got to this, shame on you f1.
Shame on Andretti!
@@KadiddlehopperClemtbh I think this is more of a GM move than Andretti but anyways liberty media is an American company and traded on the New York stock exchange so they do have to obey US antitrust laws. And tbh liberty media and some of the things they do are pretty cut dry atitrust law violations and if it comes to it the US government has to power to shut it down or rework the entire company. It’s a big deal and I’m glad they are stepping in because if anything like this happened in other markets I would also want it resolved.
The Andrettis want to be in F1 it should've been an automatic YES.
We need to OK an unlimited open-wheel road course race. No limits-just go!
I think this will get resolved fairly soon. Liberty doesn't want to lose all three US races and that is at stake here, plus a lot more such as TV distribution and merchandising in the US. It should be obvious that if you want to make big money in the US market you can't give us the finger at the same time. I can't believe Liberty didn't see this coming.
So what value does Williams beyond memories?🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also if Ford starts supplying engines to RB Racing, they Liberty Media and FOM are not allowing competition between Ford and GM, which is another violation of the antitrust laws
F1 does not want an All American team running a Chevy, Ford, Cadillac or Dodge beating a Ferrari, Aston Martin or Mercedes
Thank you.
I gave you a like for your pronunciation of ‘trash’😂
Are you kidding me? This was a great report, you get one new subscriber and his thanks.
like haas and other teams are competitive
Usa and formula 1 isn't a good mat
Corvette's making all the Euro sport cars look bad, no wonder they don't want GM in F1
Yeah and I think this is why congress is stepping in. With the teams having European ties and GMs push to Europe and how teams have to vote to allow other teams to join it’s a pretty cut dry antitrust law violation with clear motives why European companies wouldn’t want GM to join the sport. And with liberty media being a US company they must obey US law and if they don’t they could be shut down if it came to it.
as an American I am so offended about the use of "Trash" lol - just kidding
Maybe F1 should be the next Budlight
They could, with F1 being owned by liberty media which is a US company the US government has the power to shut the whole thing down. It won’t come to this but it definitely is a possibility.
Good for Andretti
as an American id be a huge Andretti F1 fan, all those American sponsors on the car....the liveries!
They should actually allow two Andretti teams to match how all the other teams work - one main team, one "farm" team. To combat Liberty's "competitive" point, one only has to look at all the "farm" teams. How many of them have won a race in the past 5 years? How competitive are they really?
As an American, you got me with the “trash” bit lol
The first American owned and American built race team was Dan Gurney's All-American Racers with his Race Winning 'Eagle' in 1966. Congress has proven America knows nothing of F1 even its own involvement and has again tarnished the image of the US in European's eyes. And I speak this as a 50 year American F1 fan.
Didn’t Gurney use British engines?
Well, as a 50 year fan, you must be well aware that Liberty Media IS AN AMERICAN OWNED Entity. So, Liberty Media is in fact in violation of Anti Trust Laws. I dont like the way that its all going down either but I will say this. What does the FOM consider to be "Competitive?" If Andretti Cadillac goes out, in their first 2 years, and routinely puts the smack down on Williams and Haas, is that considered competitive?
Name one thing that Andretti did wrong in what they did to abide by the requirements to enter Formula 1? Do you you honestly feel that Andretti wouldn't bring value to the sport? Do you think its right to change the Concord agreement to 10 teams instead of the current 12 teams, just to keep a possible entrant from bringing in more exposure to the sport? Do you think Liberty Media should be making boatloads of money from the American Market without letting an American Team compete on equal footing? There are many issues that show a deliberate bias and I think thats wrong on many fronts? If you say they won't be competitive, then prove it on the track. Thats competitive just in its nature. Its actually refreshing for this to be happening and keeps the FOM honest.
Well tbh even keeping racing out of it this liberty media is in big trouble if they don’t cooperate. Being an American company and traded on the New York stock exchange and are found at fault (and many things such as some things in the concord agreement are pretty cut dry anti trust law violations) the US government does have the power to shut down liberty media. I am just getting into f1 and am studying business law rn and liberty media will have their hands full with this.
High inflation, high crime, weak economy, loss of world standing, weakened military, lack of cyber security, failing infrastructure, take overs of college campuses, wars in Ukraine & Gaza, heightened threats from our enemies, open boarders, homelessness, open drug trade in major cities, deficit spending, high taxes, I am so happy that our congress has their priorities in order.
You forgot the national criminal police organisation taking over our country by stealth: the F.O.P.
Let's all pray the us congress bans F1 from the us. The we could get back to racing high tech cars and not providing popcorn crunching americans a circus.
The sport has generally had more than 20 car grids. The opportunity for young champions from F2 has been hindered by some of this generations teams who aren’t comfortable with expanding entrants & new teams. Antitrust pressure is the appropriate response to allow the Andretti/GM team to compete where its name is included as a World Championship.
There is only one reason they are denying Andretti, It would mean splitting the money 11 diferent way instead of 10. We know that they want the number of teams limited to 10 in the rules, so their motives are very transparent. Being an American company Liberty can easily be painted the bad guy in this and Andretti is a household name in Americam motorsport, who do you think they will support if this get uglier, F1 could be racing infront of half empty grandstands or worse the government stops F1 from racing in the USA. That would be a financial disaster for the sport.
PMSL F1 survived long before any American race and it will continue to survive without American races, there have been many attempts in the past all on nonsense tracks the only track in America that is worthy of an F1 race is Cota the rest are just publicity nonsense stunts, how would you feel if you were a team owner suddenly finding out your winnings are going to be less cause of and 11th team.
The sponsors are thin on the ground as it is there are not many companies that can afford to sponsor a F1 team for a full season and bringing in another team would over dilute that pool of sponsors F1 is not financially stable enough to bring in an 11th team at this stage thats not to say it won't be in the future just not right now.
The FIA has had it's day, and it's brought us nothing but foppish drama, awful rule-sets, and PC racing. The USA should ban the FIA forever after the current contracts run out for races.
Yes, all this is most unfortunate but we do have to expect this today with America having more skin in the game. One of my earliest memories of F1 was with Mario Andretti winning the F1 Championship in a Lotus back in 1978. Yes, 'inspirational' to my then 15 year old self and I then wanted him to win. In context, then perhaps the best thing today in all this is that Mario is still fit and active in what has since now become a multi generational family motorsport business and as one which takes his family name. However, when we look back to before this era then the Americans have always had their own motor racing series and categories. Can-Am, NASCAR and Indy immediately spring to mind. Even 'Indy' quarrelled and split into factions. Ok, America is their country and therefore their business 'turf' and so who can blame them for being 'protectionist' vis-a-vis we here in Europe? All that said, there is strong argument informing that the culture pursuant to which which Europeans and Americans respectively go about their motor racing is much like trying to mix oil with water. There is a strong argument that Europe has better managed and promoted motor racing over recent decades and this, seemingly, is perhaps why these Italian Americans today find with an envious and beady eye? All cars are created equal? An IROC series? Europe has focused much more in threading 'innovative engineering' into motor sport' whereas America has otherwise perhaps tended to 'dumb down' and instead focus more on the business side of things? The truth today is that the ICE is on the wane and, more is the pity, Formula E or similar categories are not yet more heavily invested in and promoted into becoming the new F1? All this informed then perhaps Endurance Racing delivers the best model as a way forward for F1? Historically we have had divisions between, say, a Le Mans series (today WEC) over here in Europe whilst with IMSA over in the states. Pretty much the same cars but otherwise separate competitions but with minor technical accomodations. There's already too many F1 races to keep the thing global and Asia today properly deserves its own series too - particulary in Japan but also now in Arabian lands and all these together with thier own local 'star' drivers. Maybe the current leadership at the FIA just doesn't have the vision nor else the elan to push all this forward? Meanwhile, F1 is properly 'European'. It should have 80% of races here and the price of admission needs to be pegged back to better deliver in terms of accessibility. Yes, 'guest' races in North America and eleswhere. However 'global' reach is 'over reach' and this, and in truth, on an individual human level as a majot limiting factor. On this then just ask Max Verstappen who today finds 'in the thick of things'.
F1 pen pushers are the worst in sport. FIA have been disturbingly wrong many times. Andretti name alone is legend. Can only be good for the sport.
Imagine saying that the US market is the most important focus of F1 currently, then saying that an American-owned team with ties to championships in literally a dozen different motorsports (including F1) doesn't add value.
Remember: FIA approved Andretti to race. Technically they can just show up and race and there isn’t anything F1 or Liberty can do about it, other than not show them on TV. I know it isn’t my money, but I hope he just goes for it. 😂
Sure, have the pits in the paddock, good luck with that.
@@BornAgainCynic0086 Go read the FIA GCR. For a track to be FIA certified, it MUST be able to accommodate 12 teams in the paddock, AND garage space, AND a pit box on pit lane, AND a space on the pit lane wall for the engineers. F1/FOM/Liberty are NOT in charge of competition areas during race weekends, the FIA is.
Though I support the Andretti bid, but what's next? US Congress determines the F1 driver line-up?
Very simple. Open it up, let GM and Andretti in. It's not truly the World's Best until the whole world can participate. I don't understand the reluctance given that it will only add American eyeballs to F1.
Like world series baseball, eh?
As a somewhat casual observer of the F1 scene, I don’t see why there would be an issue with an Andretti team. They have a long history of successful motorsports competition at many levels of the sport. Why would F1 deny them the opportunity to participate? If they don’t make the grid, they don’t race. That’s not going to cost the F1 organizers anything. F1 is a global competition, let everyone who produces a car to specs have a chance to compete.
The folks who are in charge of F1 must be worried about that response from the U.S. government. F1's shady business model got highlighted, and their hopes of cashing in on the U.S. market won't happen unless they let Andretti join. I give Andretti big props for playing the big cards. I'd guess that folks at General Motors gave the Andretti team the idea to get congress involved.
As an American I object to this action by my own Congress. Anti-competition rules should not apply to F1 control over what race teams in that organizations competition. It SHOULD apply to F1 keeping anyone from creating a racing league that would compete with F1 as a whole.
If this Andretti GM team is upset about not being allowed in to F1, it should create its own league.
so, Congress CAN do something effective ... on occasion.
Wake up Liberty.
They didn’t want to play with Mario, so he went to congress?!? I mean didn’t he learn anything on the playground? That strategy seems doubtful.
Just ban F1 from broadcasting in the USA until it is rectified
Andreotti appears to have no proven case in law for his claims, or are they his claims ?
The truth is like the Neuburg ring thousands of people per year want to race on this circuit which provides critical dangers for participants on limited infrastructure. In free market conditions it is normal for the wide verity of companies associated with F1 do not have any plans to expand the sport at this time as it is unaffordable infrastructure which limits participation at any event.
It is ironic that Andreotti has options in joining other series, indicating motorsport has options for his entry which he has declined.
The true motivation is to take control of the technology within the sport and create a cartel or antitrust monopoly to be moved to the states where it will fester and die as a sport.
The usa has a very distorted view of antitrust laws across the world with Google having a monopoly,, Microsoft, intel, apple the list goes on of usa monopolies..
The usa grand prix are becoming very unpopular with the fans and personnel, which has already seen a lack of racing interest in the USA and its controlling politics more comparable with that in china.
Its ironic that Andreotti is been used by GM to buy into the sport as Ford hopes to buy Red Bull Austria shares.
This is a problem which is comparable to find limited slots at London Heathrow due to all the slots already been taken. The irony here is that Andreotti is using politics to distort and create a monopoly to gain business advantage which he is arguing against......the press is exposing this man s desperation to return to the sport for personal reasons not real industry value.
The comedy club goes on......
It would be great to see new teams on the grid. Drop Alpine and Williams, they bring nothing to the table.
I've never understood why Liberty, supposedly an American company, is so unable to control what is theoretically their series. It's obvious that the "inmates are running the asylum." That is, the teams are actually in charge.
Putting US advertising dollars in their pockets is OK. Having a true American team, not so much.
American teams need to compete the same as any other. Adding politics is simply BS. I am an American, but the last thing we need is Congress involved. This PoS organization can not take care of internal issues. Stfo of F1. To add to US influence issues consider that 2 of 3 USA races (Vegas & Miami) are a disgusting display of far left decadent behavior and are simply embarrassing.
As an American, the less Indy and Nascarification, the better. Don’t ruin the sport I’ve loved, far longer than Liberty Media was even a thing.
Let me know when Andretti is on the grid.
How EXCITING it was to see ANDRETTI becoming a F1 Team….. F1 has not got a LEG to stand on….
Disgusting Sport. Totally Corporate, No
Entrepreneurial Aspect whatsoever. Canned predictable racing. Even with Andretti, just so corporate.
Good to know and what was cancelled??!!
Ya because Hass is such a competitive team.
So if a new team wants to join the NFL NBA, MLB, they can quote Antitrust regulations?
The big thing is with this is that the teams get a say whether or not a new team can come in. This type of action is a clear antitrust law violation. For mlb and nba or nfl if the teams had a decision if a new team could join or not then it would be in violation. But those organizations don’t run it like how F1 runs it and it’s solely upon those over the organization and teams have no say in it.
Liberty media meet with teams to discuss letting Andretti in and all but 1 team said they would let them join, this type of voting system can be seen as an antitrust violation. And liberty media being a US company has to follow US antitrust laws and if they don’t the US government has the power to shut down liberty media and with it F1 if it came to it. But it will never come to that but if liberty media doesn’t comply it can result in some pretty aggressive actions to be taken by the US government.
Just buy Haas out and your in , it’s that simple
Interesting.
If the F1 "Gods" were to let Andretti in would they have to kick someone out to keep the Team count at 10?
The current Concord agreement allows up to 12 teams to be on the grid. The FIA having approved Andretti Global to join F1 is within the Concord agreement rules. It is FOM and Liberty Media that are breaking the Concord agreement with false excuses why Andretti Global can't join F1 but want to continue reaping the rewards of American dollars on American soil.
@@seanhynds8482 but andretti didn't want to join the F1 circus until it became profitable. Why he didn't buy marussia f1 team like haas did?..
@@sFde46 Maybe because they were getting the rocket scientists together to make the slot cars work properly? Are you really so thick? The Andrettis, especially Michael are extremely shrewd.
Leave the government out they have enough things to worry about and this isn’t one.
The only hope IMHO is that Andretti acquires another present F1 team. Red Bull has two teams because of the money. Of course, you only make decent money if both teams are top five. Maybe Red Bull should be 'forced' to sell Racing Bull to Andretti. Of course, legally you cannot force a team to sell. Alpine (Renault) should strike a deal with Andretti and GM? Williams might be for sale?
Ideally would be 12 teams, but that will never happen because of GREED.
!2 teams would definitely add value for Liberty and FOM.
An american friend of mine often used to say "Money talks and bullsh*t walks", so I would have thought the obvious solution for them is just that - buy out one of the poorer performing teams and transform it. F1 would survive if the USA events were moved elsewhere, so I don't think the current approach has as much clout as they think.
Besides Monaco and Saudi Arabia, the 3 US races bring in more revenue than all the other races combined. That is a fact that is beyond even being contested in a monetary sense. Do you have any idea how much money Liberty Media is throwing off the table when denying Andretti entry? We just aren't talking the Largest Manufacturer in the world here. We also talking sponsorships, fan ticketing, commercial rights, track exposure, endorsements, etc. The list goes on.
Doesn't Red Bull have a deal with Ford? And GM could do a similar deal with any other team? I think argument will be thrown out quickly. It was GM's decision to only go with Andretti.
Having said that, whoever wrote that rejection letter was an idiot. Almost seem personal.
GM could have done this but GM in all of their Motorsports like to have control of the racing team, that is why they have a 50/50 agreement with Andretti. If they made a deal like ford they would only have control over the motor development, that is all that ford is doing in the redbull ford deal. And I don’t really see any other team currently on the grid wanting to team up with GM and give some of their control to someone else.
F1 fears Andretti...
Haha… took a New Zealander to show your drivers incompetence on debut.
HA, not at all.
An example of 8D chess.
The European F1 organizations love American money. Yet they arrogantly block American entry into the sport. Andretti is as good, or better at building race cars, and their driver selection process will produce excellent drivers.
The Euro centric teams don't want an American team, then we should return the favor by seeing hat they do not race in America.
I love F1, but I hate European arrogance, in this case, more.
F'em
Among many issues with this, the "competitiveness" trop is rich. Do they expect a new team to compete for race wins and podiums, of course not. The dominant teams of the 21st century, Red Bull and Mercedes-Benz, both built on pre-existing teams, went years before becoming the powers they are now. They simply want to avoid dividing up the "pie" any more, ignoring the increase in interest in the American market they so crave. As this congressional action shows there are also issues of protecting the European masters of the F1 teams from US competition. F1 is also suffering from the the limited field. This year there are NO new drivers in the field. Popular young drivers in GP2 are being forced to go to sports cars or Indy cars. Good for those series, but bad for F1. Admitting Andretti and at least one other team is in the best interest of F1, the teams, and the fans.
The fact Redbull owns two teams goes against their premise.
Where is the bombshell? CLICK BAIT
And this goes exactly nowhere and will however assure Andretti does not get a grid spot.
Why is nobody saying this "No American team, then no American races" F1 sure wants the millions (if not billions) from the American market, and races, but sure don't want to rock the F1 elites boat.
Another team is surely better for racing.
JUST LET THE MAN ENTER HIS RACE TEAM.
Did they find oil under Monza ? 😂 it must be…
Once again F1 shoots themselves in the foot
It's simple, increase the prize money to accommodate an 11 and even 12th team, the rebellion of teams are based solely on the dilution of existing monies, period.
the statement from FOM is pure horse schit... They have 10 back markers already... they actually need some COMPETETIVE teams. You know since the Arabs have controlled this race series... it has become a joke that half of the teams cannot or will not perform and need protection.
America should boycott f1
Well with liberty media being a US company the us government has the power to shut down the whole sport
Didn't one guy win like 90% of their races last year? Keep on talking about competition though...
So let me get this straight. Congress wants Andretti in so it can promote GM across the world. Yet you mention the European teams and auto manufactures having a competitive advantage in the US as the sport grows here and the vehicle manufacturers get exposure and better marketing. Last I checked, Ferrari, Mercedes, and Aston Martin, are all miles ahead of GM. Their vehicles are far superior to anything GM could ever make. Even in the Cadillac side of things
Clearly you haven’t heard of the c8 corvette. There are so many videos of the corvette beating Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Mercedes, bmws, Audis, porches you name it. And that is just the Z06 model, the mid tier model.
But the issue legally is that teams can vote whether or not to let a team in, this is a clear violation of us antitrust laws. And what congress was pointing out was that GM is making a push for the European market and f1 is currently controlled by European manufacturers who will naturally try to push GM out as a competitor (and they did go to teams and asked about letting Andretti-Cadillac in and all but one rejected it). And with liberty media being a US company they have to abide by US law. If they don’t the US government has the power to shut down liberty media and with it moto gp and F1, it won’t come to this but this is a big deal can result in large consequences if liberty media doesn’t act fast. The US government takes antitrust laws super seriously.
Problem is now that it is now a politics thing, everybody know that it become's wors, It could happen that the 3 race's in the US get skipped
Mario is behind Michael Andretti. There is no way they will not do everything possible to be competitive. I believe they will be better than the current back markers in the F-1 field. Give them a chance. F-1 right now is a bad soap opera, and the USA is half the world market in purchasing power!!!!
F1 Should walk away and boycott America.
Indy should run on euro and Asia tracks in a regional format
Bye. We have enough boring parades anyways..
They won’t. They want that money
Feel free, and NEVER come back, how about that? Poofter.
Their just afraid his team will win . I mean that's what he does.