Control ATEM Mini Pro/ISO with Stream Deck & Companion!
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
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Get extremely versatile control of an ATEM Mini Pro using Companion software on an Elgato Stream Deck XL.
This overview shows how to design a production switcher with Program/Preview cut bus, keys, video playback using VLC as a Hyperdeck substitute, and other tips for editing sessions over video calls.
* Please note that the v1 Companion Profiles mentioned in this video have been superseded by a free trial of v3.0's Home Page - an awesome 1-page portable Switcher that can be imported independently to any Companion page! This download gives you the opportunity to test out your network configurations and Companion modules before purchasing the full-featured profiles for ATEM Mini Pro and Extreme: davidjoshuaford.com/productio...
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Yes , I would welcome a video as to how the buttons were built. thanks.
Yes - working on an update and a how-to video!
can u.add the 18 button stream deck to your arsenal and show how to place keys there as well. the world awaits u
I'm waiting for this video too to get published!
@@willianaleman6114 I recorded the tutorial videos over the weekend...now to editing... Look forward to sharing!
@@davidjoshuaford can’t wait. I’m getting into the stream deck with companion and Atem - but struggling a little with VMC. Would you recommend VMC or OBS? Looking forward to the tutorial!
That was excellent. Content rich and drama-less. Thank you.
Too much drama on YT... glad it was helpful!
Hi David, what an amazing setup you have there, you have given a complete new dimension to the Atem and Stream Deck connectivity, Keep up to good work, have ordered my SD XL waiting for the delivery.
Love From Mumbai, India
Joseph
Thanks Joseph! Be sure to see the latest videos for more comprehensive demos :)
great setup David. Thanks.
What an awesome video! Thank you for doing this!
Thank you so much for this, straight to the point and high quality.
Very well done. Both the video and the companion setup.
Great timing for me as I am testing different methods for pushing vt's during webinars. Currently using OBS triggered by streamdeck and testing a raspberry pi based hyperdeck lookalike. I had started on vlc but stopped. You inspire me to have a second look. Thanks
How's VLC coming along for you Jean-Francois?
@@davidjoshuaford Great. I have been using VLC on Win10 feeding video clips into an ATEM Mini Pro controlled by Companion running on Raspberry using your buttons to Select specific clip, CUE, play as well as show remaining time etc.. Best feature is in fact showing the remaining time on the companion button.
I found your novel idea to trigger the pause/play on button up action very clever.
One issue, I had to move to a different machine running vlc and each time I have to fumble with the vlc config to make it work properly.
I also ran into issues as I am also running H2R on the same PC but I am looking at your new ideas for adressing that issue (I have settle to using the DSK for H2R and using black as the key )
superb! I am looking at the Atem Mini with Stream Deck into OBS for live/recorded gigs as well as training sessions where I can cut to PPT ... this seems to be the right solution, your explanation of your setup is spot on and has helped a lot ... thanks bud
Awesome, glad it helped! FYI, the more recent videos on my channel have more extensive and up to date info on Companion!
This was incredibly useful, thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
This is an awesome video! Thank you for creating it. I've been playing around with the smaller version of the stream deck and thinking of upgrading to the larger one just to have your keyset.
Do it! If they had a 128 button deck I’d get it...you can always use more space! But I have an update coming that makes good use of long press to give more actions per page.
@@davidjoshuaford looking forward to it.
David, thanks a lot for the video and for the Companion Button layout.
A video about how to use Companion with the Stream Deck and the ATM Mini Pro ISO would be beneficial to the community.
I downloaded the Companion Button layout today. I can not wait to put it in action.
Thanks for your contributions to the community.
BTW I built the macro for the 4 PIP corners in the ATM software Control. I thought I was doing something wrong until I found out that the resizing issue is a limitation in the implementation of Blackmagic Design in the ATM hardware. Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks Willian, enjoy!
Really helpful content that shows me how to link and use the same kit I have in my setup. It would be great to see how you set the buttons up on the stream deck. Thanks for a great job.
Paul, I have a new video that shows how to build Companion buttons - czcams.com/video/qeBlpOVNe-w/video.html
Fantastic Video!
Thank you very much!
David.. Great content. I’ve just watched the Finding Solace video on your site, and its a sad/lovely story which is well shot and edited. So I’ve signed up on your blog and would love to receive the stream deck buttons. Thanks. I’ve the ATEM Mini Pro ISO and Stream Deck - and finding the ideal set up for my needs quite hard to create - especially figuring out how to do macros (Ecamm is easier and has the amazing interview link function - but doesn’t have the ISO or other features). So I’m mashing a solution together - and this vid and the buttons would help. So any in depth tutorials would be appreciated - and also, perhaps you could do a video on yourself, your journey, and what kind of content you and your production co aspire to create / edit... Happy Christmas.
Thanks for your interest - I'll have a think about other videos to create. And thanks for checking out my other videos - glad you enjoyed them! I'm working on a keying update to make a 2UP interview layouts easier to execute - I agree that the ATEM has so much potential, but the software interface is un-useable in a live streaming environment, and not even enjoyable to use in preproduction when setting up layouts to recall. I'll send that out to my website's mailing list when it's ready!
Hey David, thank you very much for sharing your workflow. This was really awesome!!! I would be really interested in how you got VLC to work with Companion and the Stream Deck. :) Never thought of this option. Stay safe and have a good start into 2021!!! Subbed ;)
Schalker, I explain this in my new VLC install video - czcams.com/video/rrJY2_cfUUw/video.html
Excellent Video. I have so many questions but let me try first. I definitely want to know how you created some of those buttons.
Very cool and thanks for sharing! Will you have a video how you set it up? I haven't used my ATEM Mini pro much. (You've got a sub!)
Yes, working on the setup video. Thanks for the sub!!
Thanks for sharing your Companion-file. I learned a lot by looking at what you have done. But now i´m curious about what your Macro´s is doing :)
Hi Tom-Andre, I'm working on an update that will include the macros.
@@davidjoshuaford Nice, I appreciate your videos. Good work :)
Great Video I love it, but please can you make a video as to how the buttons were built. thanks.
BOOM! Done as requested! (Just took me a while to get it together!) czcams.com/video/qeBlpOVNe-w/video.html
@@davidjoshuaford Thanks a million, I really appreciate your time and effort
Please I will like to know how the buttons were created, thanks
Video is coming! In the meantime you can download these button layouts from my website mailing list at davidjoshuaford.com/production/companion
@@davidjoshuaford Thanks
Your chroma key is very crisp. If you don't mind sharing, how are you lighting your green screen, & what are your chroma key settings on the ATEM?
Thanks much!
Hi Roland, it’s actually pretty rough and ready...making the best of a small space! It’s two 1x1 flex LEDs with diffusion about 45° either side of me. There are still cross shadows on the green screen but the ATEM does an ok job of pulling them.
Hi David, thanks for your great job. Just one question, is it possible to create a button where I can Save (with a long press) a new preset, or just recall (with a short press) the preset stored with that button? Thank you!
Hi Leonardo, yes you can make a button that functions separately for a short or long press, but it does require more work. I use it a lot in my PTZ profiles - you can see the videos in my channel. And I've explained the principle in the past in this video: czcams.com/video/qeBlpOVNe-w/video.html
You can add a button to change profile for companion or stream deck and vice versa
Sure can!
David - were the side-by-side shots post edits, or were they possible as a live view going out the program view? If the latter, did I miss that in this video? Thanks! .
The side by side shots around 10:15 were done in post. Some of the demonstrations in the video are live effects (like all the green screening and pip), but I recorded all 5 channels to the ISO for the tutorial and chopped it up and moved it around in Resolve to best display whatever I was explaining. You'll see a version of side-by-side in my more recent video explaining the Key Presets, czcams.com/video/yPrIHCiQNrQ/video.html but the ATEM is limited to a split-screen 2-UP effect - you can't achieve dual full screen with only 1 Mini.
How about all the stuff in between?
Awesome macros! I don‘t know yet what kind of atem i want to pick up (prob. atem mini pro iso). But i have some questions before i purchase... maybe you could me...
Do you stream via ethernet directly or are you using atem streaming bridge for using it with obs? (cause the usb port is probably connected to your ssd?!)
i really want to build animated stinger transitions (found a video on how to do it with streamdeck) and not the simple ones provided from them... but how does it work, when the usb port is not connected to the computer or especially obs?
Is the multiple view window connected to your seperated monitor and your desktop to one of the inputs? and is it possible to use multi view on my mac?
since i am watching more and more videos about it i am more confused...
I livestream directly from the ATEM. Recommend using the Ethernet port for computer control, and keeping USB free for disk recording. ISO version is GREAT! Get that one. Nice size and powerful options. Multi view is only out of HDMI port, but you could get a $20 converter on Amazon (or a $110 Camlink 4K version) and bring it into your computer if you're wanting to view the MV on the computer screen. Recommend a dedicated monitor though for all day use cases.
Phenomenal video, David. Is VLC your recommended video player for video clips triggered by the the Stream Deck through the Atem?
Hi Lorne, VLC is the one I like, because it can play anything you throw at it, and is super easy to dump videos into a playlist. I know other people use OBS to do a similar job by setting up scenes for each video.
@@davidjoshuaford Thanks David, much appreciated. Do you happen to have a video where you've shown how to load a video (with sound) into VLC and then attach it to a Stream Deck button that will bring it into the ATEM Mini Pro so that it can be used on a Zoom call, for example? Sorry to pester, but you're one of the better experts I've seen and thought I'd ask, keep safe!
@@ThinkShift grab the profile download in the description, then copy the VLC playlist buttons to your companion profile, then in native stream deck software, install the companion module, add a companion button, then rather than the default dynamic, change the button to target a specific page/button within companion. I’m editing a new video that will explain this and you’ll get the idea.
Hello David. I didn’t understand the part where u use companion and stream deck software together.
Hi there - within the Elgato Stream Deck software at the bottom right is a "More Actions..." button. Install the Companion custom buttons module. Then drag in Companion buttons to the Stream Deck profile you're working on. You can choose between dynamic or specific pages/buttons from Companion. In my example, I've filled the entire page with dynamic buttons, except for the button below the top-left button. I use this button to jump out of Companion and switch to a Stream Deck profile, where I mix and match both Companion and Stream Deck. If you place a normal (ie non-Companion) button into the Stream Deck profile, it won't access Companion. I'll have a more detailed explanation in an upcoming video.
I'm impressed, and I'm not easily impressed! I'd be chuffed if you shared your keys.
Hi Dave, you can download it from my website mailinglist - davidjoshuaford.com/production/companion !
Great! Do you have also an adaptation for the 3x5 button stream deck?
Hi Eyck, I only have the XL config, but you could import that and move/copy the buttons around to fit your workflow. It's available on my blog - davidjoshuaford.com/production/companion/
@@davidjoshuaford Thank you, will get it.
David, thanks for this video. When I start the VLC with my streamdeck it just opens in my mac and not in the camera input in the atem. H2R is working fine, but I want to switch to a video. Hope you can help me.
You probably need to select what monitor to target, and make it full screen. I demonstrate it here czcams.com/video/rrJY2_cfUUw/video.html
David would it be possible to tell us how you mix stream deck software keys with companion keys? I was under the impression that they didn’t play well together. Thanks in advance and thanks for this very informative look into how you use your stream deck. Nice drone shots by the way.
Hi Bob - go to Stream Deck > More Actions > Search for "Companion" > install. Then you can drag companion buttons on to the native software and choose if they are dynamic or reference specific companion page/button numbers.
@@davidjoshuaford Thank you David.
@@bobwhitewo3b My pleasure Bob!
are there companion presets for VLC. I would like to know more about how to control VLC with companion.
There's a VLC instance within Companion. Watch this video on how to install it and get it running. czcams.com/video/rrJY2_cfUUw/video.html
Does all hotkeys work in windows or is it just mac?
Does companion also work with a more basic Atem Mini? When I connect companion with Stream Deck XL and try to run macros, it doesn't seem to work properly all the time.
Hi Fred, yes this setup will work with the original Mini. You won't have some features like recording obviously, but the input, switching, and keying functions should all work. Have you seen my newer build of this Companion profile? It includes ATEM macros to download. czcams.com/video/39gl4ZZeK0M/video.html
how are you recording and streaming at the same time. The usb c can only be used for either to record or as usb web cam..????
The ATEM Mini Pro/ISOs have built in hardware encoders that can stream directly to the net.
Hello David and the community,
I would like to know if when using ATM Macro with Companion and/or Stream Deck, if the PIP when resized goes back to default size, as it does when hitting the ATM physical buttons for PIP? In other words, is it possible to lock the custom resize of the PIP through Companion and/or Stream Deck?
Hi Willian, you can build custom macros in ATEM software to make any size and shape PIP you want, and then trigger that on the stream deck using companion. Unfortunately Blackmagic hasn’t enabled any way to alter the default pip buttons on the ATEM MP panel itself. I’m working on a new layout that will have a lot of flexibility pre-built for the flying key.
@@davidjoshuaford Thanks for the prompt response.
I can not wait to see your new layout with the pre-built for the flying key.
Hello everyone! Excellent video.
Is it possible to run two stream Deck units within the same computer. Example, one running Davinci Resolve profiles and the second one running Companion to control the ATM Mini Pro ISO?
Hi Willian, yes you can do this. You can also run the Companion emulator on a tablet or phone.
@@davidjoshuaford Thank you for the prompt response.
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can you please show the variable for the play and pause video in VLC and the cue (1,2,3 video etc) - Ive tried and it will count down all video instead of one at a time -- thanks
Hi Tedz, if you mean you want each video to pause when it ends rather than going to the next one, that is within VLC preferences > show all > playlist > play and pause. The companion button itself is built by the playlist ID on the DOWN press, and the pause/resume command on the UP release.
@@davidjoshuaford not quite that I want to load any number of videos, then as I press each corresponding button I want to see the time left on that particular video. @ the same time have the same cue button u have to toggle through each one.. thanks for replying
Does the ATEM software need to be running to use the stream deck, or only the companion software? If the ATEM needs to be running, can it be minimized?
Hi Will, you can certainly minimize the ATEM software. It helps to have it open as the ATEM instance within Companion will pull Labels, and needs to be open to access Macros. But some things will function without ATEM software open.
@@davidjoshuaford Got it! Thanks for the reply.
I’m very new to stream decks. When a button ends up being basically a link to a whole different page of buttons, how is that done in companion?
Create a regular button, then under Actions, start typing “set surface with s/n to….” Leave the Surface field to “This Surface”, and change the page number drop down to the desired page.
@@davidjoshuaford thank you so much! More complicated than I imagined but I love it.
@@ChiefNonsense yes, a little more to it than the native Elgato application, but the GUI makes it waay easier than coding
how do you program the different keys?
Made a video just for you - czcams.com/video/qeBlpOVNe-w/video.html
not for beginners.. sounds like FRENCH 301.. i need english 101.
Hi there, what aspects could be explained more simply/in-depth for you?
@@davidjoshuaford Great great info but I will poke around and come back to this one.
@@smilenownyc let me know, and grab the free profile download in the mean time - that will do a lot of the heavy lifting in building buttons for you! davidjoshuaford.com/production/companion/