Bella Goth from game's perspective

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2020
  • Players tend to find answers about Bella Goth in things that are a certain way because that's how the game works. I'm just explaining why those things happen after you bring her back.
    Also, there's a huge thought process on why Bella's story is what it is and why Strangetown Bella looks different.
    Inspirations:
    alexplayssimsnstuff.tumblr.co...
    Cutupuss → • Taking a look at The S...
    Sources:
    sims.fandom.com/wiki/Bella_Goth
    sims.fandom.com/wiki/Chemistry
    How to bring Bella back → • How to REALLY bring Be...
    But it's easier to have the clean version of Pleasantview → meetmetotheriver.tumblr.com/p...
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Komentáře • 650

  • @Marticore
    @Marticore  Před 4 lety +1958

    ALSO! One of the reasons of Bella's disappearance could've been the urge to show how developed aliens are in the new game, compared to The Sims 1 where they were just a tiny addition.

    • @MrKringlebotn
      @MrKringlebotn Před 4 lety +108

      You for got to mention that "Where's Bella" in TS3 was written by Alexander Goth according to the book shop, which in the base game only was a child!

    • @echowoods7977
      @echowoods7977 Před 4 lety +28

      @@MrKringlebotn that was probably just an easter egg

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +54

      I didn't see the point in saying something that everyone knows. I showed the book on screen and that's it :P

    • @katczu
      @katczu Před 4 lety +15

      lol I don't remember any aliens in TS1 :D maybe my gameplay was too basic to get abducted back then

    • @whatshername6191
      @whatshername6191 Před 4 lety +20

      The full polish sentence tho is actually: 'If you don't know what it is about, it's about money or sex'' Still fits pretty well 😂

  • @IraYuzhnaya
    @IraYuzhnaya Před 4 lety +2413

    You: it's been almost six...
    Me: yeah, 6 years, like it was yesterday
    You: ...teen years
    Me: WHAT?!

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +324

      Sims 4 is 6 years old xD

    • @IraYuzhnaya
      @IraYuzhnaya Před 4 lety +173

      Marticore it‘s crazy...time is crazy

    • @nicolethomas8090
      @nicolethomas8090 Před 4 lety +13

      Ira Yuzhnaya sims is 20 yrs old

    • @IraYuzhnaya
      @IraYuzhnaya Před 4 lety +29

      @@nicolethomas8090 yeah, i'm 23 so it's absolutely mind-blowing for me

    • @magicduckman5568
      @magicduckman5568 Před 4 lety +34

      Sims 3 is 11 years old :c it feels like yesterday.

  • @onlyabidoang
    @onlyabidoang Před 4 lety +3147

    I really like how you discussed this whole Bella Goth debacle but focusing more on the technical side of things instead of theories or conspiracies!

  • @glanni
    @glanni Před 4 lety +1686

    I have to really respect what they did with Bella's story. They created one of the most iconic characters in the video game world, and without the mystery of her disappearance she wouldn't be nearly as famous. I find it so interesting to see how the creation and marketing of cult characters work.

    • @Squaretable22
      @Squaretable22 Před 3 lety +67

      I mean yeah Bella was iconic in TS1 to begin with (that red dress and the graveyard man)
      But TS2 propelled her into another tier of stardom

    • @NenadlPopovic
      @NenadlPopovic Před 3 lety +21

      I agree for the fame part, but Im still sad she wasn't available to return somehow and live normally again, cuz Goths were always my fave Maxis made family

    • @glanni
      @glanni Před 3 lety +22

      @@NenadlPopovic I fully agree, I was devastated when I first found out that you're actually _not_ supposed to look for her and reunite her with Mortimer.
      In the long run it made her more famous, but the price we paid was high.

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 Před 3 lety +1

      998 likes so far

    • @mushrmbaby1287
      @mushrmbaby1287 Před 3 lety

      True but...i never really cared at all, NPCs are not that important to me anyways-

  • @laurapamplona215
    @laurapamplona215 Před 3 lety +228

    You're telling me that two sims with the Grilled Cheese aspiration will have the healthiest relationship ever?

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 3 lety +101

      I guess so... And the relationship will be the only healthy thing 😂

  • @mistiffiecation
    @mistiffiecation Před 4 lety +1053

    5:23 Can I just point out the silliness of mutual attracion of Grilled Cheese aspiration? +145 buff? That is some STRONG drive. XD

    • @annahimmel
      @annahimmel Před 4 lety +14

      I was just going to say that lmao

    • @15JenJen15
      @15JenJen15 Před 4 lety +98

      They just love grilled cheese

    • @existentialgamer9206
      @existentialgamer9206 Před 3 lety +96

      Makes sense, imagine you’re crazy about grilled cheese and then you finally find your grilled cheese soulmate who actually gets you lol

    • @PoptartParasol
      @PoptartParasol Před 2 lety +13

      I think the weirder your hobbies/passions are the more attached you are the people who share it, simply because they're so rare.

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami Před rokem +4

      Makes sense tho. What are the chances to find another person with the exact same crazy aspiration as yours?

  • @RosaCatz
    @RosaCatz Před 4 lety +1312

    That was one of the most well done videos on the Bella mystery I’ve ever seen

  • @dundee6402
    @dundee6402 Před 3 lety +136

    Fun fact: If Alexander Goth is sent to college after Mortimer passed away, Pleasantview Bella Goth will appear in his cutscene.

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 3 lety +30

      yep

    • @EvaIdk__Romania
      @EvaIdk__Romania Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ooh!

    • @Alisa_Nanar
      @Alisa_Nanar Před měsícem +1

      And if he died in childhood, Bella will come to take him “home”, because the ghosts of children are in the default folder, like all NPCs... and she will be playable, if bring her in family(but game will be crush)

  • @itamarmedeirosnetto
    @itamarmedeirosnetto Před 4 lety +1018

    I think the same thing. My theory is that Dina first convinced Don to flirt with bela, so Mortimer would caught her cheating and divorce her, but when she refuse making out with Don (as proven by his memories) She came with another plan, contacting her alien family to abduct her. And then I think that Dina Planned also that Don should marry with Cassandra, so both could get the Goth money and stay as lovers, but don is so afraid of marriage that this did not work out in the end.

    • @geraldinelewis8314
      @geraldinelewis8314 Před 4 lety +18

      Sounds legit

    • @augh4659
      @augh4659 Před 4 lety +3

      No. This is wrong I’ll link you the real one.

    • @augh4659
      @augh4659 Před 4 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/v4k7_d4fbIY/video.html

    • @sk00by37
      @sk00by37 Před 4 lety +196

      @@augh4659 There's no "wrong" or "right" ones lmao they're all theories.

    • @slytherinserpent73
      @slytherinserpent73 Před 4 lety +26

      At least the goths are happy in sims 4

  • @missline95
    @missline95 Před 4 lety +458

    Ahh, i frikin loved the "no chemistry" thing. So realistic. Like the time you meet that person thats just sooo not a match and the conversation does not flow one bit.

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 Před 3 lety +34

      Bella was initially designed to be a gold digger. She is also a romance sim. She would have desired to cheat. The no chemistry is is good haha

    • @adrielelmascapo
      @adrielelmascapo Před 3 lety +10

      @@jamiemohan2049 ;; Kinda weird because she refused to make out with Don.

    • @Ilivepuppys
      @Ilivepuppys Před rokem +4

      @@adrielelmascapo i dont think Bella was made to cheat, if so she would of said yes to Don. Bella loved her family and Mortimer is the one who murderers her....(I have a whole theory on it haha and it oddly fits

  • @paulamazur9449
    @paulamazur9449 Před 4 lety +877

    When I was a little poo , I've never wondered about that. I was like: Bella's gone OK , that's it.

    • @PoorGirlism
      @PoorGirlism Před 4 lety +102

      I played the sims 2 sinceI I was like... Maybe 10 years old? I didn't even notice that they made some story line for pre-made families, and even went through the trouble for making long family trees. I played the sims 1 so of course I know bella. And I know goth family is also in the sims 2, but I feel stupid coz I didn't notice that bella is missing from goth family. Even though I played that family. I never noticed she is gone after a few years of playing until I watch youtube videos, and then I was like, "OOOHHHH!!!"

    • @luccianadavilacastello5362
      @luccianadavilacastello5362 Před 4 lety +18

      @@PoorGirlism same haha i felt rlly dumb when i found out all of this

    • @annacamila_
      @annacamila_ Před 4 lety +16

      Me either! I was all about creating families and killing them on the same round xD

    • @ArborParva
      @ArborParva Před 4 lety +25

      haha same. I've been busy creating my own sims and barely ever played with premades

    • @paulamazur9449
      @paulamazur9449 Před 4 lety +5

      I'm so glad, i'm not the only one haha

  • @mryoshi1221
    @mryoshi1221 Před 4 lety +483

    people rarely talk about how the telescope don has is non-compatible with alien abduction

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +97

      True

    • @mermaidgirl0075
      @mermaidgirl0075 Před 2 lety +6

      So maybe Don kidnapped her and ditched her in strange town but I guess I’d need evidence for that theory which I just thought of in 2 seconds

    • @luky_games6238
      @luky_games6238 Před 2 lety +4

      I think that maxis just forgot that

  • @user-sr6dr7nn1f
    @user-sr6dr7nn1f Před 4 lety +207

    Now I want to make Nervous have a child just so I can name them Simoleon Subject. Thank you, Marticore

  • @randomuser2427
    @randomuser2427 Před 2 lety +56

    "Is he a psychopath?"
    "No, he's a knowledge Sim, that's how they work"
    The way you said it like it's the most casual thing in the world is so hilarious for some reason.

  • @Bille994
    @Bille994 Před 4 lety +359

    I find it so interesting that most other people played the Sims 2 by trying to unravel these mysteries and playing with the households that were pre-made. I played this game for over a decade and never bothered with them, just made my own family trees and stories. Surely I'm not the only one who did that

    • @catazanoni1455
      @catazanoni1455 Před 3 lety +23

      Most of the time I created my own familys but they had really interesting storys so I also played with those
      I used to share the game with my sisters and we had one of the pre-made neighborhood for each of us and we didn't let the others use them (and of course we could create more but I preferred the pre-made bc it already had families there with their own relationships) so I barely played with Stangetown

    • @musicadictor
      @musicadictor Před 3 lety +25

      same!!! I never play with the premade families in any of the sims games! I had a vague idea of who the Goths are until like 5 to 7 years ago, even tho I've been playing since sims 1!

    • @phosphenevision
      @phosphenevision Před 3 lety +2

      I played more with my own families but I also played with the pre-made households, but I kept more to my faves

    • @soaluc
      @soaluc Před 3 lety +6

      Same! I always started a new world and did everything from lots to sims

    • @mermaidgirl0075
      @mermaidgirl0075 Před 2 lety

      Omg me too, I just don’t wanna accidentally corrupt something as the game is so old by making Don and Cassandra enemies or something like that or having all the Broke family die

  • @Legoboy55able
    @Legoboy55able Před 4 lety +313

    I literally saw Bella walking around my town last night. It was a custom world, with no townies, so I have no idea how she got there.

    • @mverus9460
      @mverus9460 Před 3 lety +103

      that could be a sign of corruption of your game or neighborhood.

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 Před 3 lety +13

      There is an other version of Bella in strange town, maybe that's it (?

    • @SimsAllAround
      @SimsAllAround Před 3 lety +15

      She's a townie in Strangetown, but also hidden in Pleasantview. So it's possible.

    • @timothyknoll4417
      @timothyknoll4417 Před 2 lety +3

      Creepy...

    • @PoptartParasol
      @PoptartParasol Před 2 lety +1

      I saw her around in sims 2 too. So this video confused me quite a bit, she's supposed to not be in the game?? Weird

  • @sydostubegaming425
    @sydostubegaming425 Před 3 lety +95

    One time I added Bella to the Goth family with the “Tombstone of L and D” and I was able to play as her, I then went to play as the Broke family to resurrect Skip. When I went back to the Goth family, something crazy happened: Bella kept on going more and more transparent (Like a ghost) and then disappeared, I got a message that said: “Bella has died on another lot” Cassandra and Alexander then got a new memory that said “Bella Died”. I went to the family tree and Bella was greyed out, I also couldn’t see a Tombstone, this must be what the death token has an effect on.

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 3 lety +59

      Yes, exactly that. If you don't delete the token, this always happens after you reload the family.

  • @twojstary1839
    @twojstary1839 Před 4 lety +94

    i was playing the sims 3 lately and adults went to that trip and the son and father came back but mother didn't. I got my own Bella Goth.
    And then the father died like 2 days after becoming an elder so it was two teenagers and their 23 years old brother... Somehow he is more strict than the parents ever were

  • @l0v3bu99
    @l0v3bu99 Před 4 lety +328

    I think since she's a hidden sim she just got a 'purpose' treatment. She was originally put into game to be used for storytelling screenshots, backstory and genetics. But it's the same situation as with the original Nervous Subject, found within game files. He is the *actual* son of Olivia, was used to build the backstory for the Beaker fam but for whatever reason was put aside once his purpose has come to an end and was replaced by a sim we all know as our Nervous. I just can't figure out why they would make two different sims for that.
    Also the lack of personality and the default cancer sign may mean that the sim was actually incomplete/not meant to be playable? I mean, it's the case with other 'purpose' Sims like ideal plantsim who is missing all the crucial personality elements because there was no point in adding them ☺️

    • @zookeeps1340
      @zookeeps1340 Před 4 lety +14

      Maybe She Never Was Abdicted With Aliens And That's What Mortimer And Cassandra Told Alexander To Cover Up The Fact That She Died Or Ran Away

    • @augh4659
      @augh4659 Před 4 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/v4k7_d4fbIY/video.html The mystery is already solved check it.

    • @augh4659
      @augh4659 Před 4 lety +4

      Zookeeps 13 You’re somewhat close. Mortimer killed Bella!

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +39

      My video is partially an answer to this ridiculous theory :P

    • @okboomer3834
      @okboomer3834 Před 3 lety +7

      @@zookeeps1340 i had a stroke reading that, thank you

  • @kazukimanga
    @kazukimanga Před 4 lety +476

    Strangetown Bella Goth in my game (in french) doesn't even have the same name as Pleasantview Bella Goth BUT she has the Curious family name which is very very strange.

    • @jagoda6096
      @jagoda6096 Před 4 lety +195

      Fan theories in France must be wild!

    • @SweetStrawberryShell
      @SweetStrawberryShell Před 4 lety +11

      Omg that's so interesting!

    • @nikolettkiss5298
      @nikolettkiss5298 Před 4 lety +91

      As far as I know, SimGuru Lindsey said that Bella was supposed to be a playable character in the Curious family but because of the glitch, she disappeared.

    • @addasensei
      @addasensei Před 4 lety +22

      Oui elle s’appelle Kathy Lalouche

    • @Wildfire91180
      @Wildfire91180 Před 4 lety +19

      La fameuse Kathy Lelouche

  • @glupi-lis
    @glupi-lis Před 4 lety +154

    13:49, yeah, 2nd face is called "base" in some game files

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +67

      Even the Grim Reaper has this face! And if your Sim's face resets, it turns into the 2nd template.

    • @itamarmedeirosnetto
      @itamarmedeirosnetto Před 4 lety +16

      I think this is the better face, because it maches better with other faces templates when making a child. The only think I hate is how it looks on elder females, because it turns to be so thin

    • @glupi-lis
      @glupi-lis Před 4 lety +13

      @@itamarmedeirosnetto It's a bug and there is a fix of elder face on modthesims, but it works only on sims who will be born after installing this mod

    • @antoninko
      @antoninko Před 4 lety +4

      @@glupi-lis It isn't a bug, the replacement on MTS just gives the adult face to elders

    • @glupi-lis
      @glupi-lis Před 4 lety +9

      @@antoninko It is a bug, Tara Cat and adult woman (I don't remember her name) from Kim family have face shape from second template and when they age up to elders, they have face which looks like that from modthesims. I've read something about wrong cheeks/cheekbones mapping or something on female elder face, it wasn't fixed in CAS, but it was on these Sims, these Sims I mean Tara Cat and the Kim lady

  • @BoBPlayGamesTV
    @BoBPlayGamesTV Před 4 lety +158

    there are 2 adult male voices, 2 adult female voices and other ages/genders have only 1 voice per each ;3

  • @letitsimmer94
    @letitsimmer94 Před 4 lety +175

    "He's just a knowledge sim. That's how they work" why has that made me laugh so hard? XD So true

  • @Avenlith
    @Avenlith Před 4 lety +87

    12:23 Regarding the Waterview etc. When creating games, you usually start with "test" location, to learn how to build the map. When developer get to know their tools and how the game works (many mechanics can come later, than the map), they start working on the actual map. Notice how most games have a good introduction sequence, then there is mediocre central part of the game. The ending is usually the best part. That's because devs learn their own game while developing it. No one "feels" the story and the gameplay right away. You have to learn it.
    I think that the Waterview etc were placeholder cities used to learn the Engine and whole game mechanics. When they were sure about it all, they got creative and just made something fun and exciting.
    I believe The Sims 2 had this route. I am developing my own game and I have done 2 placeholder maps before creating something, that I finally approved as final game map. The last map, that I will do is the boss one, since it must be the best one :)

    • @Avenlith
      @Avenlith Před 4 lety +20

      14:10 With the face it could also be an error with documentation. Someone wrote down, that the bella's face was nr 1 with the following changes. Someone else was building Strangetown people and just created Bella with the first face, not knowing, that they added a new face. Btw I am curious if it is possible to check if changes made to Pleasantview's Bella are the same, that were added to Stranegotwn's Bella.

    • @cremona321
      @cremona321 Před 3 lety

      -gg 6

    • @Pollicina_db
      @Pollicina_db Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah it's the samw with writing stories or scripts/plots for comics.

  • @chompchompchangbin
    @chompchompchangbin Před 3 lety +37

    I think you're right on the end. I think they made a random goofy story that could be open ended, letting the players do whatever they want with Mortimer and thought that players wouldn't care as much seeing as you can make your own stories with the game. Normally, if people can make their own stuff in a game, they don't like playing side characters.
    I think people got so involved in the story after they realized Sims *always* come back from being abducted by aliens… so why didn't Bella!?!?

  • @jupitersnoot4915
    @jupitersnoot4915 Před 3 lety +17

    I just find it really funny that they unintentionally caused Bella to become basically the face of the entire sims series. Even people who don't know the sims games and don't play them know about Bella goth. She's essentially the sims' mascot at this point.

  • @SanojSims
    @SanojSims Před 4 lety +312

    Finally someone who doesn't speak conspiracy theory nonsense. Lots of love to you!

  • @koolisims
    @koolisims Před 4 lety +110

    I'm pretty surprised that your English video about Bella seems way more organized in its structure than the Polish one. And honestly, I like this one more!

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +14

      Oh, thanks! I thought it's kind of a mess... So good to know it's not!

    • @koolisims
      @koolisims Před 4 lety +19

      @@Marticore I don't think it was! This part with answering to "possible questions" with showing them on screen was great in my opinion, it really helped with video's structure:) And yeah, it might be a pretty basic way for a video, but it worked on me so :P

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +8

      Oh yeah, that was something I came up with after I recorded the whole narration, so had to record that part once again XD I'm glad you like it!

  • @thejoydespretofficial
    @thejoydespretofficial Před 4 lety +82

    I wasn't expecting that, but I VERY appreciate it

  • @yeahitsAce
    @yeahitsAce Před 4 lety +64

    I'm just assuming the whole abduction thing was planned all along. As Marticore stated, they might have wanted to showcase the more developed aliens in the sims 2. There's a ton of other sims that kind of went thorugh the same thing, like Nervous, Skip, Darleen, etc, who have clones for whatever reason that replaced them in the final version of the game. I'd just like to know why NPCs such as social worker and carpool drivers are so broken. Despite having completed personalities and skills, they kill the game over time when controlled.

  • @friendly4465
    @friendly4465 Před 4 lety +212

    What they COULD have done is make a story where you could "earn" the real Bella back, through Cassandra or even Mortimer. Since Mortimer is a Knowledge sim, why couldn't he investigate somehow? Hell why couldn't the youngest son investigate?! He already writes a book in Sims 3 about his mother's disappearance.. I dunno, this just seems disjointed and lazy of EA.

    • @magdadomagaa9406
      @magdadomagaa9406 Před 4 lety +56

      Maybe Alexander tried to change something, by going back in time and writing a book, so that Bella's story would not happen, and at the same time created another dimension called The Sims 4, where he lives with his parents and sister in Willow Creek?

    • @SopadePollo296
      @SopadePollo296 Před 3 lety +5

      There is already one, it's for PSP. It's pretty funny.

    • @byakuyatogami2905
      @byakuyatogami2905 Před 3 lety +8

      I think thats the theory behind sims 4's alternate timeline, at least that's how I coded my world

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra Před 3 lety +5

      It would have been quite cool. An unmarked quest if you will to bring her back, maybe even non Goth Sims could do it, even if they'd have no attachment to her, their knowledge and curiosity could be the reason....although the real reason not everyone would want to play one specific family just to get her back.

    • @mermaidgirl0075
      @mermaidgirl0075 Před 2 lety +3

      Wait, their son Alexander could not exist in the sims 3, sunset valley takes place before pleasant view when Mortimer and Bella are kids

  • @katczu
    @katczu Před 4 lety +53

    I know it's just a game and I'm 25 but I'm spooked xD

  • @glanni
    @glanni Před 4 lety +43

    I also really prefer P Bella because for me she looks pretty unique since I rarely use the second face template.

  • @taylorjohnson3965
    @taylorjohnson3965 Před 4 lety +70

    Their looks being possibly coded and the second template possibly being the original first template makes me think her face swap could’ve been a communication issue. Maybe when they were making S Bella they already added new first template and didn’t realize it was a different one when altering it, but they did remember what alterations they made to P Bella’s face. Idk if that makes sense

  • @marko_c3
    @marko_c3 Před 4 lety +41

    there are actually two adult male voice sets as well as two female voice sets, tho the male voices sound extremely similar. the only difference is that one is slightly deeper than the other. random unrelated fact but i wanted to share

  • @FaeQueenCory
    @FaeQueenCory Před 7 měsíci +2

    Given the CAS face being 2 instead of 1...
    It's more possible that what happened was that Bella was given the disappearance plot was decided after the face defaults were reordered.
    So when someone went on to remake Bella for Strangetown, they were told to use the default 1 face.
    Which was originally the now 2 face.
    It's the easiest explanation for as why they use different faces.

  • @tekkayagi6814
    @tekkayagi6814 Před 4 lety +39

    I feel like you should’ve mentioned the Roth family as well. I honestly believe that family was made to tell the story the Goth family was going to have if Bella did not disappear. This could support the theory that Bella was mistakenly given a dead token.

    • @helenaww
      @helenaww Před 3 lety +9

      they’re just a parody.

    • @mermaidgirl0075
      @mermaidgirl0075 Před 2 lety +1

      Is anyone gonna talk about the Specter family having the same house as the goths and a helluva lot of graves. Like the goths?

  • @annagundam9120
    @annagundam9120 Před 4 lety +48

    The new face is probably just because they wanted her to be more "pretty" and nothing more.

  • @dariakurai
    @dariakurai Před 4 lety +31

    OMG thank you!! I was always more interested in the technical side of the whole "disappearence story" but many videos I've seen covered only theories, not facts
    I would really like to see more of such videos from you in the future💖💖

  • @imfamoushero
    @imfamoushero Před 4 lety +13

    Thank you for the video. It’s nice to see a breakdown from the perspective of “yeah no these are just programming mistakes/not intended to be seen by the public.” i love a good conspiracy like the rest but like sometimes it really isn’t that deep and that’s ok

  • @BKNTD
    @BKNTD Před 2 lety +4

    Long story short, every fan theory is correct, because there's no canon story created by the developers. The biggest mistery of the franchise has always been just a clever advertisment campaign to stimulate fan speculation. Without the mystery, Bella wouldn't be nearly as iconic as she is and the Goths would be a forgettable generic artifact from the past. Whoever decided to mess up with the fans and just remove her like that was kind of a marketing genius.

  • @elia9188
    @elia9188 Před 4 lety +19

    This is one of the best video I ever seen about the mystery of Bella Goth. I always hated that generally when people talk about the mystery say thins like: "in the game files there's this or there's that" but didn't show actual gamefiles because start fast as possibile with crazy cospyracies theory. Now I finally seen this infamous game files with the tokens and things Hidden by developers and have much clear ideas about my own solution of the mystery of Bella Goth😁

  • @renfauster
    @renfauster Před 4 lety +10

    just gonna appreciate how:
    S Bella: MySpace phase
    P Bella: scrolling on Facebook 24/7 now-a-days

  • @timotejgabris9162
    @timotejgabris9162 Před 4 lety +33

    This is a really good video. I love when you get all technical because it really shows how many facts you can learn just by looking into things and actually knowing the game mechanics very well. You are such a knowledge sim :D

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +4

      I would call myself a Pleasure Sim actually, but thanks! :D

    • @timotejgabris9162
      @timotejgabris9162 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Marticore Actually that does make more sense, doesn't it :D Knowledge secondary aspiration then :D

  • @e.9785
    @e.9785 Před 4 lety +19

    THANK YOU FOR THIS I get so absolutely sick of those "gossip"-like theories about Bella. This makes way more sense and I love all the research you put into it

  • @java_finch
    @java_finch Před 4 lety +50

    I think SimPE gives a good idea of how this whole mess functions. I played around with relationships when I wanted to make my Servo sim part of the family tree and give him the "family kiss" interaction, and it's kind of a convoluted system that makes room for a lot of unconventional family relationships, actually.
    There's the family tree ties that are pretty much a separate system from flags for relationship types (such as "spouse", "sibling", "friend" and such, and i think it's possible to make a lot of odd combos of those, as far i remember they don't even have to be mutual between the 2 sims). This way you can place them anywhere on a family tree, but have them treat each other in a completely different way (first time i messed up and made the robot a grandchild of a sim on the tree, but didn't set the family flag, and accidentally made them get romantic since they didn't treat each other as family).
    "I am dead" token has nothing to do with relationships, it's not even a deceased status per se, more like a tool that hides a sim so that they never appear on lots. Now I kinda wanna remove the token from an actual dead sim just to see how that works :D

    • @vitaluka1854
      @vitaluka1854 Před 4 lety +1

      I did a cheat on one of my sims and gave them the death token cuz I thought it would kill them, and out of nowhere after all was going well for a few sim days she goes to work and then comes back dead. No reaper or grave, just gone and dead in the family tree. I gave it to an elderly sim so maybe that's why?

  • @marcel7734
    @marcel7734 Před 4 lety +21

    Sims 2: alien conspiracy
    Sims 3: haha unicorn face paint

  • @fretzil
    @fretzil Před 3 měsíci +2

    A lot of people dont take into account what was actually going on behind the scenes at Maxis when the game was being developed, absurd crunch, people were still working on sims 1 expansions, it was a total brainmelt, it did create a pretty quirky game. No office fires, just a lot of overworked, multitasking people.

  • @nekogirlbeth123
    @nekogirlbeth123 Před rokem +4

    This was a really interesting and fun video to watch that also helps remind us of an important rule about gaming:
    If you're not supposed to see it, it probably doesn't actually mean anything.

  • @jumavipe
    @jumavipe Před 4 lety +27

    i once got bella from strange ville to marry my sim, so she'd become playable and then i got her to move to the other town, and she wasn't related to her kids and i was so dissapointed

  • @sunflower4100
    @sunflower4100 Před 3 lety +8

    I will tell my theory here:
    Don Lothario wanted to have a romance with Bella, but was rejected. Dina Caliente married Bella's brother, so he probably said to Dina that his sister married an almost millionarie, then Dina got interested. The Caliente sisters are aliens hybrids, so maybe them still have contact to aliens (ive seen in some places that they dont know about this, but idk if they know). So when Michael died, Don and Dina made a plan, Dina asked aliens to abduct her, since the sisters maybe had contact to aliens, so Don asked Bella to hang out on his house when the aliens were coming, and that happened, and they dropped her in strangetown.
    Also, she only remembers that she loves her family.

  • @kitana_kennedy
    @kitana_kennedy Před 4 lety +2

    Mad respect for the amount of work in this video! It's really high quality and entertaining ⭐⭐⭐

  • @AlexLopez0506
    @AlexLopez0506 Před 4 lety +10

    Hi! I wrote that one explanation post on Tumblr, and I LOVE how you explain the game mechanics. I didn't really explore the game mechanics because I wanted to explain the story side, but I still find this so interesting. 😍

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 4 lety +5

      Well, your post inspired me to make this video, so thanks! :D

  • @lexiimariee759
    @lexiimariee759 Před 4 lety +1

    I can listen to you talk all day! The Bella theory is so intriguing.

  • @jojosworld1396
    @jojosworld1396 Před 4 lety +3

    New subscriber! I really like your personality and they way you break things down. Glad to see that more people are still playing the sims 2. 💫

  • @suzy_han
    @suzy_han Před 4 lety +6

    Im so happy everytime you upload 💟 when i ran out of your videos on the polish channel I was so happy to find this one ^^ I love the Legacy Challenge and this video was super interesting too!

  • @Bozikee
    @Bozikee Před 11 měsíci

    Every so often I play this video again. I love your explanation about Bella and really enjoy these types of videos

  • @CeceJianni
    @CeceJianni Před 3 lety +4

    This was incredibly well done, and makes the most sense. Thank you.

  • @TayLeigh127
    @TayLeigh127 Před 4 lety +1

    This is such an interesting angle to discuss the Bella Goth mystery! Your theory about the first face template being added later in the game and replacing the original default makes so much sense.

  • @NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois
    @NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois Před rokem +1

    This was a really good explanation to everything in the game that got people's imaginations running wild and the reasons the game is actually like that, thank you!

  • @xuxu3703
    @xuxu3703 Před 4 lety +3

    Śliczny akcent! Ciekawy film, podziwiam za ilość pracy włożonej w to wszystko. Fajnie się ogląda, keep it up ⭐

  • @kevinsko9696
    @kevinsko9696 Před 4 lety +18

    I love the Sims 2 Marticore typing on the computer scene from time to time xD And what the actual hell? I never knew about 15:56 O_O Probably because I never really played that career but still. Awesome video as usual. ☺

  • @hkazu63
    @hkazu63 Před 3 lety +2

    My personal storytelling is that Bella died under mysterious circumstances and Mortimer is delusional about her fate, believing it must be aliens. As he was a scientist before retiring, his grief overtook him and he attempted to clone her in some way, but after creating a first successful clone, he regretted it and rejected the new Bella. The new Bella eventually left for Strangetown and decided to begin a life there. I usually end up changing her name to smth familiar but different, to signify her rejecting the identity of being Bella Goth.

  • @pupinia6936
    @pupinia6936 Před 4 lety

    that ending cracked me up lmao. excellent analysis by the way, really changed my perspective about the sims.

  • @Youtubee-nd4je
    @Youtubee-nd4je Před 4 lety +2

    This video is so interesting . Better than any I’ve seen about her !! Subscribed !

  • @genevievemonk1108
    @genevievemonk1108 Před 3 lety +5

    2:42 it's another day in Pleasantview, Bella Goth is casually pouring milk from a carton with her face on it

  • @user-td6pq9fj3b
    @user-td6pq9fj3b Před 4 lety +7

    The chemistry thing, the "fixed" all the pre NL sims to have a correct chemistry. Since she is hidden they wouldn't have bothered to fix hers. However he not being attracted to Mortimer ties in with the story in TS2 for PS2(I think that was the game). You explore strangetown and one of the goals of the game is to discover everyone's secrets. Bella's secrets tell use that she never loved Mortimer she married him for the money. So it makes sense that she is not attracted to him.

    • @user-td6pq9fj3b
      @user-td6pq9fj3b Před 4 lety +1

      One thing that might be over looked when making TS3 is how not rich are the Bachelors. I mean they have like 3000 in the funds. Plus Bella marring for the money, makes no sense as Dina married Michael for money. So either this was over looked by the developers, or maybe Michael wasn't on the best terms with his family and had made money on his own as Bella and his relatives never knew of Dina. Like I don't think Mortimer would have gotten with Dina if he knew that Dina was his wife. I often can't sleep as I find more plot holes in this story 😂😂

    • @Blackchris2080
      @Blackchris2080 Před 3 lety

      There is a comment somewhere that states in a 2006 interview that Bella loves Mortimer

  • @daesplays8737
    @daesplays8737 Před rokem +4

    Bella got herself abducted on purpose so she wouldn't have to see the downfall of Maxis.

  • @loisteganc1970
    @loisteganc1970 Před 3 lety +1

    I really enjoyed this side of the story! I'm not a technical person myself, and I am one of those who runs off with theories and Lore, but this certainly made me very interested and for the most part I think you are correct. Although it is fun to create your own stories!

  • @awkwardorangedrawz5914
    @awkwardorangedrawz5914 Před 4 lety +6

    THANK YOU for sort of debunking the fire theory. One of the people that worked on the Sims 2 said that there was no fire and that their vision of game changed over time like: how to game looks and the UI. They were even going to add 3D rain and refections but the rain kept on going through everything and the refections made it choppy. Also, if there was a fire... wouldn't they have back-ups? And I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have everything run on the same thing.

    • @DGTelevsionNetwork
      @DGTelevsionNetwork Před 3 lety +1

      The look is mainly due to the lighting system. Most of the objects are the same even in early media. Originally it shared the system based on the Sims urbz with the time cycle from SimCity 4. Somewhere in development, either testers or programmers were complaining about the game being too dark and so the night time was turned light blue instead of red scale used in sc4.

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra Před 3 lety +3

      It's standard game development like any other game. If they had to start all over again it wouldn't have come out when it did. I guess a fire sounds more exiting to people than just....game development.

    • @awkwardorangedrawz5914
      @awkwardorangedrawz5914 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Xegethra exactly! People don't know how computers work -- they wouldn't lose all their progress. Maybe people just want it to be exciting instead of them changing the direction and look for the game.

  • @pwltn15
    @pwltn15 Před 4 lety +5

    This Bella videos are so important!

  • @monicabellu9566
    @monicabellu9566 Před 3 lety +1

    Subscribed! I've seen other videos about Bella, but I just loved how you explained it 💞

  • @whocare7759
    @whocare7759 Před 3 lety +1

    That's may be the best video I've seen about this subject. THANK YOU for taking the time and putting the effort to make this! You deserve a lot more subscribers. Subbed :)

  • @joeyveegs7124
    @joeyveegs7124 Před 4 lety +11

    Maybe the aliens genetically modified Bella so when she arrives in Strangetown she is more conventionally attractive and they can use her offspring for their experiments. Haha I know this never really happened :P I just love theorising about Bella. When I was a kid, I'd move her into a lot in Strangetown, remove the lot from Strangetown and put it into Pleasantview and move her back in with her family, but they were always just like 'Who the hell is that?'. Not exactly the big reunion I hoped for!

  • @LittleLilac27
    @LittleLilac27 Před 2 lety +1

    I find it crazy how we’re still discussing this YEARS later. It shows how captivating the mystery is.

  • @christhecustomcharacter1409

    Welcome back haven't seen you in a while

  • @Chellyoxo
    @Chellyoxo Před 4 lety +2

    I agree with your views on the story. You articulated it very well!

  • @jasmineparisttv
    @jasmineparisttv Před 4 lety +1

    I found this really interesting and informative! thank you Marticore!

  • @koololdster
    @koololdster Před 4 lety +2

    Very interesting! You really put a lot of thought into this. I appreciate that.

  • @riderpls
    @riderpls Před 4 lety +1

    Such a well-done video! Congrats x

  • @Emre-go3iw
    @Emre-go3iw Před 4 lety +1

    Just found out your channel i am honestly in love with it

  • @pauuuuuwa
    @pauuuuuwa Před 4 lety +7

    THANK YOU for addressing the different face templates for both Bellas! They're clearly different women, even their voices.. I was always so bothered by that. Great analysis in this video.

  • @tamarascarpelli6401
    @tamarascarpelli6401 Před 4 lety +2

    Hey! I just wanted to say that i loved this video! I enjoyed it a lot, your pronunciation got a lot better and clearer. Also this time the way you explain everything was way more organized and planned. Also, i really like this content! I've been playing this game almost my entire life, but i've never thought about Bella's story too much, so it's refreshing to hear your theory, wich i think is the most logical explanation i've heard so far. You are really making an effort to improve when making your videos and it shows! Please keep up posting :) you've earned a subscribe

    • @amandaevers626
      @amandaevers626 Před 4 lety

      moving sims between towns can cause corruption 😬

  • @Whatareevenbirds
    @Whatareevenbirds Před 4 lety +12

    someone has to send this video to Juno Birch omg

  • @googleuser4225
    @googleuser4225 Před 3 lety +1

    Never realised you’re polish, love to see another polish simmer ❤️

  • @slushpuppie19
    @slushpuppie19 Před 4 lety

    I love this! I think I'm hooked on your sims videos lol

  • @justpeachy97
    @justpeachy97 Před 3 lety +4

    "K bye mom." 😂😂😂
    Thank you *so* much for talking about the technical side, this answered a lot of my questions! She was my favorite character and something I was always obsessed with as a kid who had dial up internet and had no way to figure out the technical side 😂

  • @sleekoduck
    @sleekoduck Před 4 lety +7

    The Pleasantview and Strangetown stories came from the classic German movie Metropolis, which happens to turn 100 this year. 😎

    • @cutiepiettvjackson8744
      @cutiepiettvjackson8744 Před 3 lety

      This influential German science-fiction film presents a highly stylized futuristic city where a beautiful and cultured utopia exists above a bleak underworld populated by mistreated workers. When the privileged youth Freder (Gustav Fröhlich) discovers the grim scene under the city, he becomes intent on helping the workers. He befriends the rebellious teacher Maria (Brigitte Helm), but this puts him at odds with his authoritative father, leading to greater conflict.

  • @goldbirdcages
    @goldbirdcages Před 4 lety +3

    This is so interesting! Who would have thought we would still be trying to work out the mystery 16 years later!?

  • @lReMi07l
    @lReMi07l Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! Very informative and captivating! Thanks for your work! 👍

  • @joeibh
    @joeibh Před 3 lety +1

    THANK YOU!! this is great work!

  • @Sheik-yo9fj
    @Sheik-yo9fj Před 2 lety

    This is one my favorites videos from you

  • @glanni
    @glanni Před 3 lety +2

    The chemistry isn't always bad between the two. Bella's and Mortimer's turn ons and turn offs are randomized, and for example if she's turned off by logic or grey hair, or he's turned off by black hair, their chemistry is not good. If you make them drink the renew potion you can manually choose these turn ons and offs. Sadly, there's no "natural" or "canon" level of that sort of attraction for base game premades.

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 3 lety +3

      Turn ons and turn offs aren't the strongest factor of chemistry, that's why I mentioned their incompatible aspirations.

    • @glanni
      @glanni Před 3 lety

      @@Marticore Oh, I see now lol!

  • @aniakania1272
    @aniakania1272 Před 3 měsíci +1

    when i thought i knew enough about bella goth, i watched your video! thanks for that!

    • @Marticore
      @Marticore  Před 3 měsíci

      Now watch April Black's video for more mind blowing 😀

  • @idiotsandwich4912
    @idiotsandwich4912 Před 3 lety +1

    2 seconds in and I’m in love with the accent you have!

  • @urieldaboamorte
    @urieldaboamorte Před 2 lety +1

    I don't know exactly why but I always come back to this video. monthly.

  • @natanpeixoto7460
    @natanpeixoto7460 Před 4 lety +1

    Such a good video! 💙

  • @Alice-kd3vo
    @Alice-kd3vo Před 4 lety +1

    This is such an informative video thank you so much

  • @sariluna6142
    @sariluna6142 Před 4 lety +1

    I was REALLLYYYY waiting for your techical point of view! Pozdrowionka :>

  • @sErgEantaEgis12
    @sErgEantaEgis12 Před 2 lety +2

    Sims players: How do I reunite the Goths?
    Maxis: That's the neat thing, you don't.