The Disaster Of The Sims 4
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It's no secret that The Sims 4 has had... a bit of a rocky history. With a rough launch and an even rougher reception, followed by years of heavily criticized expansion pack releases and accusations of the series decline in quality, it begs the question... how did a franchise that was once on top of the world get to this point?! Well, today let's cover the dramatic story of the Sims 4- from it's deeply troubled development, to it's buggy launch, to the many dramas, controversies, and issues that have surrounded it since it's inception.
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I still like the sims 4 lol
FLIP MATCH MASTERS THE SIMS 4 IS STILL BETTER THAN THAT POS
If Sims 5 happens I won't be surprised if being hungry was part of the base game and eating was part of the "Basic Needs" Expansion Pack.
Plus an expansion pack for that expansion pack that includes food
@@HighAsHeckPriestess “here’s your ability to eat food. you’re welcome :)”
“that’s cool and all, but… where’s the food?”
“food?”
I don't think the Sims 5 will ever be released. EA doesn't have a good track record of supporting games for super long, especially the ones they published more recently. The fact that they have not tried to make a new Sims game in the last 9 YEARS while SimCity 2013 (RIP SimCity series) is no longer maintained/supported should really say something. It is kind of like GTA 5 in this regard, but made and maintained by a far worse company. I think they would probably support Sims 4 to maybe around 2025 or 2026 and then cut their losses after they milked the game to death
Not to mention the way they deal with competition is by either running them out of the market (Madden series) or just giving up entirely (NBA Live and SimCity)
@@theerrantwanderer Do you know that The Sims 5 has already been announced/revealed, or you just don't believe them?
Honestly, sometimes I get defensive about TS4, but then I realise, I'm playing a copy that I got illegitimately, with all the DLC, with too many mods to count. At this point I'm not playing TS4, I'm playing what the community has made of it. Thanks, sims community!
Hey, do you have a link ?
@@pulcokiwi Sharing links like that isn't allowed on CZcams, but I can at least tell you that Reddit has a community called r/Piracy and they have a well-maintained megathread. I claim no association with them or their practices, and I'm not endorsing the use of any links they share. Do with that as you will.
Yep, I maintain that mods should be extras for the game, not a requirement for enjoyment.
But I just get told that the main "feature" is the Sims is visual storytelling. Like if that is the case the TS4 has failed miserably, because whatever "storytelling" is in the game is at bare minimum implied or only visual in nature through CaS or B/B not through gameplay or interaction.
@@MikanTsumikiTVThank you for sharing this information so that we can all know to stay far away from such a terrible, anti-corporation community. I, for one, would never go to the mentioned forum post and follow its directions to install a free enhanced product because I love obeying the law and giving my money to EA with gratitude.
@@pulcokiwi You just need to find a fit girl. She will give you the link.
This comment will be unread but well
I was part of the beta testers for the Sims 4 before its release. I was absolutely shocked by the disappearance of open worlds, shops, cars, insects, pools, toddlers, ghosts, playable jobs and much more as we players expected "rabbit holes" from the Sims 3 to go extinct in the Sims 4. With other testers, we warned EA about the cruel lack of content in the game, and they basically responded that "they had to make sacrifices to implement the complex system of emotions" and that they will never change anything before release.
When the game released they compensated the lack of content by paying every influencer on Earth to play their damn game and say it's amazing.
They still got roasted by the community and had to kneel to add pools, ghosts and toddlers for free, but damn.
I am very worried about what the Sims 5 will be.
Thank you for your service, if only they had listened...
They could have just rereleased Sims 2 but with better graphics and we’d be pleased honestly 😅
I also play tested Sims 4. I don't recall them explicitly telling my group that they wouldn't change anything for release. I was so disappointed when I realized that all of the feedback we had given them went unaddressed... and how it clear it was that they would keep doubling down on having us pay more for less. I honestly felt back then that the sims in Sims 3 were more complex and interesting than the ones with the new emotions.
I have not played The Sims 4 since that playtest - there was something about sitting in the sessions and hearing other players give them direct feedback (and being told that they would listen) and having it go unaddressed that didn't sit right with me.
emotions aren't even complex, anyone who knows jack about how games handle that knows that it's a lie,
for example, Project Zomboid, it looks like the sims 1 and honestly, probably could be modded into it, but it has an emotion system, albeit not as big as sims 4, literally its just bars that fill up when you do or don't do shit, if you select the smoking trait and don't smoke, the stress bar goes up, if you kill zombies, the stress bar goes down, if you run, the tired and hunger bars go up, and they pop up and tell you that you need to deal with them
sims 4 handles it so much differently, your characters don't even have these bars, they have + or - they get from activities, all it is, is "Did sim watch tv that wasn't kids? if yes, +2 happy, else, +2 boredom", it's such an easy system
@@doctorgrubious7725 I always laugh when people talk about how complex the Sims 4 AI is. I've been programming professionally and as a hobby for over 10 years, I'm not an expert at AI but I've done enough programming to know how difficult it would be to make something like the Sims 4 AI, and I'm not seeing what's so complex about it, things seem more random than actually complex, and the emotions don't seem like anything special. It's not that what they have is bad just not enough to act like it's some new groundbreaking system, it's a good foundation for sure.
What killed it for me was the lack of open world, I think the ability to have deep immersion into the 'world' is a big part for a lot of people. I can almost guarantee you if they said we have to reduce the quality in graphics by 20-30%, but we can have open worlds without major performance issues, people would go for it and after a while wouldn't even notice the difference in graphics
My favorite was the excuse for no color wheel being performance.
As someone who knows quite a bit about how game development actually works, i can tell you that changing the color of an object is quite literally one of the easiest things your GPU can do. The way they did it, using unique textures for each swatch, is actually less performant since you need to stream in and out those textures, and store them in memory especially if you have multiple objects with different swatches. This was simply done out of either laziness or simply to save server resources on the multiplayer game. (I dont know how it can be lazyness though, its actually about 2 lines of shader code). Its only (slightly) less efficient for networking, since instead of sending 4 color values, youre just sending which swatch number youre using. This is absolutely the reason.
The thing that annoyed me was that after stating that they added a color wheel for animal's fur. You can even paint on them whatever you want. And yet my sim cannot have pastel pink hair and emerald eyes or have clothes and furniture in any color I want. Ridiculous
If they don't add the color wheel people are forced to buy more content. Certain hair colors in packs, furniture, and KITCHEN COUNTERS
I'm guessing a time thing. It's much faster to recolor a texture in photoshop than make a coloring system in game. Each material needs a mask texture for the different parts that need to change colors and that could potential take a lot of time to make all those.
I mean they have the resources, they should have done it, but that would be my guess in why they cheeped out on it.
@@Mctittles it was actually because sims 4 was originally meant to be online only. Think the mobile game that looks the exact same, but on PC. So colour palettes were hard coded in, because they intended to sell swatches. Since they just changed it into a single player game last minute, they couldn't switch back to a colour wheel.
Why they don't do the HUE bar on everything we have now, beats me tho.
nerd talk, but Sims 3 did have separate textures for different parts of the mesh as well, and if anything, it had up to 4 of them, which would facilitate the need for separate draw calls or passing auxiliary attributes to distinguish which polygons used which textures or dynamic texture atlasing and uv assignments, which is likely how it's done if i would guess. uniform color is cheap, but multiplication is still per fragment and is more, compared to baked textures, unless the swapping overhead/inability to batch overweights it. I actually have no idea how they managed to pull off so many active textures at the same time without tanking the performance to the ground in both games, they seem to only require Direct3D 9, which is insanely old and limiting. would like somebody to poke them with renderdoc to know it all lol
I remember thinking “wow, the emotions changing rapidly in this game is so realistic!” because I could relate to even the smallest things changing my mood entirely.
Years later, I’ve been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
Yup.
LMFAO same
same here!! I have bipolar lol
Mood 😂
Haha yeah
Right there with you. Felt like the sims made a game about me ☺️. Who knew we had a serious mental illness.
I know I'm late, but my biggest gripe with Sims 4 is that making sims is great, building a house is even better. But after that I'll play for maybe 15 minutes and get bored because there's nothing to do. Despite what they said on release the sims have no personality, nothing ever affects anything, mood is completely irrelevant, and they even turned off wants by default. There is a complete lack of content after the build stage. And the amount of content you get in things like stuff packs really makes me wonder how many people are really working on Sims 4. Because let's be honest - things like 25 objects in a stuff pack, many of which don't even have any animations or interactions like windows or lamps or general decor items, shouldn't take more than a month to make for like 5 people max. Especially when you consider that many items nowadays are just covert recolours or resizes of items that already exist.
And if you don't purchase anything, the game is empty and soulless. I'm one of those rare people who got the game AFTER it became free, and after downloading all the mods I could to make it more interesting..I was still let down. I was restricted to three worlds, barebones gameplay, and..a lack of actual things to do. My sims lived samey, lame lives and even with my vivid imagination, I lost interest within an hour. I even caved and bought a pack, which I quickly regretted because the features it added were very minuscule! After playing with it for a week I felt that deep empty vacuum tugging at my soul..craving for MORE. IT NEEDED SO MUCH MOOOORE!!
Sounds exactly like what Nintendo did to Animal Crossing New Horizons.
There is a ton of stuff to do. I've never understood how people can make that complaint. It's mostly bugged, but there is an overwhelming ton of things to do.
@@ceanaofthecragsare you referring to the base game? Or do you mean there’s a ton of stuff to do once you’ve spent hundreds on DLCs?
@@claudiawilson1376 I'm refering to the plethora of content that I bought always on hard-sale. If you're too cheap to invest, you deserve to be bored. One doesn't have to pay full-price, if one is mature enough to wait for it to go on sale.
I’m an avid Sims 3 player and I’d like to add that emotions were already technically in 3. When you go over the mood bar, it says what state your sims is in. While it’s not as in depth as 4, it still does it’s job, and it is balanced out well with the moodlet system
Sims 2 literally had mental breakdowns and a fury system, emotions have long been in the sims.
They kept marketing the Sims 4 sims as if they're better than the previous game's sims but... They honestly seemed inferior. Their traits didnt have much to do with them either.
Yeah, and it was honestly more realistic that way. I'm a ts3 player too (pretty much exclusively, but love ts1, too).
Like, say your Sim has been flirting up somebody, needs are all met, they've just had their favorite food, and they've listened to their favorite music. Those kinds of things would, irl, make someone feel maybe a bit flirty, confident, happy, etc, or overall just be in a "good mood," as described in ts3. The mood bar actually leaves room for _more vast emotions_ because they're not defined by the 'heavier moodlets,' just by how many are negative or positive and by how much.
I hate that ts4 is like, "you've flirted with someone so you get like 5 flirty moodlets, but your sister that just died only gave you one sad moodlet so it doesn't outweigh your flirty moodlets rn and so your emotion is just "flirty" or goodness forbid "very flirty.""
@@ihavenodesiretocreateahandle My 6 sims household had one YA die, who was the older sister to the rest of the non-A sims, and so many of the family members just had "Very Confident!" moods because of two confident-style paintings that hung on the wall... I guess the only fun thing there was that the Reaper went and painted a complete painting on their own, so I have that hanging on my wall now at least...
YES ! I would like the Sims 3 to have the CAS (the shape modulation feature) of the Sims 4 but other that, the Sims 3 is more enjoyable to play
As someone who finally picked up the Sims 4 because it went free-to-play, I'm glad the base game is free nowadays. It makes pirating all the expansion packs and DLC content so much simpler.
Ouu I gotta learn this I’m too broke
Sims 4 and all the expansions have always been free to play for me 😭
I also downloaded it the day it was free but I havo expansion packs and I haven’t tried pirating bc I’m too scared to try haha
Yo ho, yo ho 😂
How do you combine the pirated packs with a real base game?
My wife introduced me to the Sims 4 by making a character of me in her household. I picked "clumsy" and "good natured" as traits, and promptly had a heart attack on the treadmill. My sim would fall due to clumsiness, laugh due to being good natured, and would be in good spirits to continue running- this looped until my sim was in hysterics, on a treadmill, and his heart gave out.
God this made me laugh so hard
Sad.
R.i.p.
*the sims was trying to give you a message, a warning if you will*
Lol. This reminds me of when I made my sim something like overly emotional, and she got so angry she dropped dead. I guess she just exploded lmfao, that was such an intense experience. I had to go to a save from a sim-week before to save her life. Never using that trait again 😂
@@diarandomized don't laugh too hard though
Giving everyone a hot tub for something as momentous as a 20th anniversary has big dashcon ball pit energy
Sooooo true
Such a perfect way to describe it lmao
Everyone who bought the game gets to spend an hour in the 20th anniversary hot tub.
the appearance of the hot tub also has dashcon ball pit energy (as does the toddler pack ball pit and now i really want to make a rec center with a huge open room with just a toddler ball pit in it)
i think my favorite part of this comment is the fact that TS4 does have a terrible ball pit. behind a paywall.
OMG thank you for putting the "sanatized" feeling into words! I was always feeling like Sims 4 was missing so much egde. I just couldn't articulate it. One example: In Sims 2 I had a cowplant as a university student. And it would eat my teachers without me noticing until I checked my grades and realised they had dropped because of this. And it ate my two roomates next. I brought my roommates back from the dead but they ended up being zombies instead of real Sims. And they kept destroying everything. I kicked them out and put them in their own family and I played a long time with them. It was fun. But something like this would never happen in Sims 4.
I also loved building own apartment lots and things like that, but that doesn't work in Sims 4. You can't even make a community place with more than one function. I used to build malls with shops and restaurants and pools and things for fitness (mainly because I didn't want to travel to many different lots, so I wanted to have everything in one place). This doesn't work in Sims 4 either. You can't have a Spa and a Restaurant on the same lot, it won't work. And you can't open your own store at your home anymore either, another thing I used to do in Sims 2.
I can mainly compare Sims 4 to Sims 2 because I didn't have a good laptop when Sims 3 came around and only was able to actually play the game again with Sims 4. Sims 2 will always have a special place in my heart, I recently started playing it again and while the graphics aren't as pretty as Sims 4, it's still my favourite of the installments. (Together with Medieval tbh, that spinoff was wild and so much fun).
Edit: English isn't my first language so errors/faults/weird phrasing come as a free stuff pack!
I agree, it's the result of too many PC parents complaining that the sims franchise is too "adult" for a "doll house" simulation.
So now with TS4 bring tye most sanitised of the franchise, there are still parents thinking the game is still too "mature".
Like, I had to download mods to add in some mature aspects that were base features for TS1,2&3. 😅
@@BrightWulphI always think it's a mistake to blame the audience for these sorts of things. The actual reason why this happens is that with big companies and big games, board members have more influence than game designers, and the board members want to maximise mass market appeal to maximise profits. That means weird, quirky elements will be taken off the menu since they don't appeal to common sensibilities across cultures globally. Every time a franchise aims for global appeal, they become sanitised. It's because they need to have cross cultural appeal, not because they're trying trying appeal to PC culture.
I feel like the past sims games, it felt like the sims would go on without you if that makes sense? Sims 4 always felt like the sims just sat around waiting for me to interact with them
Nothing more infuriating than traveling to an apartment building in the sims 4, having nothing loaded but blank walls and no furniture and needing to go to a separate loading screen to visit an apartment in the same building you didn’t specifically “travel to”. I’m literally looking at the inside of the apartment, LET ME IN! LET ME INNNNN!!!!!!!
reading this comment after the new pack where they managed to make the apartment loading screen situation even MORE egregious lmao
@@careless_daughter I knowwwww. I understand it’s for performance but Christ on a cracker this is getting ridiculous
*The fact that we needed to pay $40 to get Seasons for a life simulation game got me* 💀
yarr
maybe i’m just used to it but seasons is one of those packs i never minded. sure, it’d be nice to have weather in the base game but the Sims 3 is a perfect example of how you can add so much more content with an expansion pack dedicated solely to seasons. if weather was included in base game they wouldn’t include festivals/holidays so you’d likely have to buy dlc for the full “seasons” experience anyways lol. it’s EA after all😭
@@crab2195 The thing is, the sims 3's seasons was never $40 in the first place, yet still brought so much more
@@pwpqwq7648 no it was lol. all Sims 3 expansion packs retailed for $40 at their initial release. they have the same price.
@@crab2195 It was around 20 bucks where I live
as a wedding coordinator the wedding pack sounds like it's pretty realistic
as a caterer, it is, but more boring somehow
😂😂😂
omg omg!!! I've never heard someone say they are a wedding coordinator before!! it's one of my top 5 jobs, it sounds so cool! I wanna know, is it fun?
@@NIGHTBLOODUSAGI if you like planning and being the butt of the blame and also making dreams come true, yes!!!! but the most important thing is going into it WANTING to do it. baby you sound like you want this, go ahead!!!!!!!!!! get that dream going.
I learned by djing weddings that wedding coordination is adult daycare
i was SHOCKED by the grim reaper concept art holy crap i wish all of that was available so we could customize our Grims lolol
When I was in elementary school, I asked for the sims 4 cats and dogs expansion pack for the holidays and to my surprise I actually got it! Little me was ecstatic.... and then i found out that it was an EXPANSION pack lol
I proceeded to awkwardly tell my parents that I thought that it was just. a version of the Sims 4 with cats and dogs added in and not just a pack that would add them into the Sims 4. I was lucky they were willing to buy me the actual Sims 4 after that because I was a kid who just saw cute animals and a game I was wanting to play not realizeing it was a seperate thing
To be fair the expainsion packs are definitely priced as standalone games 😭
When I was little, i was in electronic shop, and I saw The sims 3 Cats and Dogs pack. My brother was telling me that I need basic The sims 3 but I didn't listened to him and bought a pack xD
The fact that they took burglars out are insane
Perhaps they'll return it in the form of an expansion pack like always
Criminal, even.
@@e.bhenny7207I see what you did there
I remember playing TS2 for a few days then going back to TS4. I wasted a good 10 minutes trying to find the burglar alarm...
EA are the burglars that's why
The fact that they released a survey questioning what packs do the community want in the future and Star Wars was part of the poll and got the lowest amount of votes yet they released Journey to Batuu like weeks after is so insane LOL
And even then they could have saved face IF THE PACK WASN'T JUST A SEPARATE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DISABLED MANY OF THE SIM-THINGS. So, nope, forget trying to play out that Star Was Fanfic idea you had, Disney said NO.
They really expected Star Wars to win just based on brand recognition huh.
The only way I could see the star wars pact working was if it actually added new alien genetics to the game. Like all the aliens are just costumes. What if your sim could have a child with a star wars alien and it came out half alien half human sim? Like the opportunity was right there!
They're so out of touch that they made that poll, adamant that the players would be like "YAY STAR WARS!!"
@@mikef55 Wasn't this amidst the second nadir of Star Wars, when series popularity was at an all time low again? I mean, I don't know, because I kept to the matter of the original trilogy. And I intend to keep it that way.
Every time you hear game devs go, "We're reinventing the genre", "we'll be going back to the roots of the franchise" or anything similar, you know you're in for an absolutely abominable time.
I started playing the Sims 4 a few days ago. I used to play Sims 2 & 3 a lot but Sims 4 scared me away with those dozens of packs and whatever. Anyways, here are some things I noticed:
1. This game is sooo easy. I remember having a household with four adults in Sims 1 and oh my, I had to juggle all their need paying close attention.
Here? Two adults and I can relentlessly force them to do my bidding for HOURS before I have to let to go to the bathroom and the kitchen real quick before they resume working on their computer etc. Especially the social need is so easy to fix back up after they have been alone for a while. It takes forever to go down.
2. The first Sim I created lived right next to the second household. Like their house was right next to mine, I could even see it. But whenever I wanted to go over there...loading screen. Are you kidding me? In reality I could even throw a stone from my window against theirs and here I need a loading screen to say hello? In Sims 3 I spontaneously rode my bike to the city to go shopping constantly and now I need a loading screen to visit my direct neighbour?!
3. Friendships seem unbreakable. Once someone is your friend their friendship bar seems to never go down even when I don't get in touch. Other games where way stricter where I had to make an effort to remain friends with them.
4. I was having fun but also being underwhelmed at the same time? It was bizarre. I noticed a ton of tiny little thins that bothered me. A few examples: No burglars? Whenever I buy a fire alarm, I also buy a security system. Here? Nothing. No cars, no bikes? Seriously? When I go to work I won't get picked up, I just leave the house and disappear from the spot? My pregnant Sim was barely an inconvenience. Like she started to walk funny but nothing else changed, not even her mood. Speaking of moods:
During their wedding they were both CONCENTRATING INTENSELY. Like maybe it was because I didn't want to bother with an actual ceremony and spontaneously did it in their living room but they were super focused like they were trying to find a cure for cancer while they were getting MARRIED. what on earth is this emotions system doing? The emotions are hardly appropriate and barely affecting whatever I am doing. I have 16h in this game and the emotions don't even faze me anymore, I can effortlessly ignore them. Feeling flirty after taking a shower? Who are you even? I myself feel refreshed coming out of the bathroom but my Sims want to flirt afterwards. Sure, whatever floats your boat.
What I've noticed is that many people cheat themselves money, then say how easy the game is. I find it annoying to have to talk and talk and talk to get the social needs fulfilled. I don't have that in real-life, but I'm autistic. The entertainment one is annoying, too. The fact that the sim goes to work and comes home stressed EVERY SINGLE DAY makes the Sims 4 shitty for me. Or your sim will be burnt out and have to either engage in any creative activity if they are doing anything remotely logical, and vice versa.
There are bikes in the game. Your sim will ride them. You ahve to buy them one. I haven't tried out the modded cars yet. There are also the boats in the Island world.
Still, this game is crap compared to the Sims 3, which doesn't boot anymore for my Win 10. I need to pull out my Win 8 laptop, where I could still play Medieval Sims, and see if the Sims 3 works on it.
And yes. The emotions in Sims 4 is like your sim belongs in a mental institution. Someone turned the screw too tight.
@@ceanaofthecrags Yeah, I agree. Cheating for money and then saying it's too easy doesn't make any sense which is why I don't do it. But here I was making a lot of money in no time so there never would have been a need for it either.
Funny enough I didn't have to talk that much to get the Social up but then again...my one friend was trying to visit me almost daily. What's up with that? I remember from older games that you had to make an effort to stay in touch and here all I have to do is wait?
Yeah, I tend to feel stressed after work sometimes too. But not every day. I also noticed that here. And you're right, these Sims either want entertainment all the freaking time while I just want them to gain a logic point or they turn into robots and do whatever I want forever. That seemed more balanced in older titles.
Okay, so there are bikes. Must have missed them somehow, thanks for clearing that up. But since I beam myself to work I don't have to buy one. In Sims 3 I always bought a bike first to get everywhere.
A friend of mine keeps telling me how much fun it is and I am happy for her. But I didn't feel it. This game is shallow and lifeless (ironic) compared to previous titles. And the emotions system drives me up the wall. So unrealistic and poorly done.
Wait, the game doesn't boot anymore for your Windows 10? My laptop also has the current Windows installed. Don't tell me I can't play the old games anymore, I still have all my physical editions and really looking forward to installing them to play a good Sims game. O.o
@@lisamaria9938 I was just playing in the Sims 2 and the Sims 3 yesterday and today. The amount of money you earn painting is not worth it compared to Sims 4, but the daily pay from the starting level of the jobs is outrageously higher than in the Sims 4. Therefore, I still cannot agree with you on that point. As to the skills, yes, those are insanely easy to learn, and the relationships are easier now. It used to be that I could have my sim read in the Sims 2 for about 8 hours and hit level 5 in a skill, and just chat and chat for a while in Sims 3 and already build-up an easy relationship.
We are very nostalgic about the old sims games, and critical about the Sims 4, but because the Sims 4 really does deserve criticism. Going back and playing the Sims 2 and 3, there is a lot to criticize, too. I see pluses and minuses for each game.
@@lisamaria9938that's quite interesting, as someone who started with the Sims 2, jumped straight to 4 and then back to 3, I found the social bar easiest to cheese to full in the Sims 3. Like my sim will get a random phone call in the evening and after 15 minutes of sim talking his social is straight up to max
The concept art for the Grim Reaper is KILLING ME knowing we could’ve had an interesting and unique twist on him rather than a basic Grim Reaper design
he looks so hot
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@@vilmacastell8253 Thank u!!
@@near4316 ok calm down now.
My theory for gatherings like weddings in the Sims is that each lot has a max total of collective brain cells. The more Sims involved in a thing, the thinner the brain cells are spread between them.
That's so funny and true
Honestly irl humans can be like that too at times so it's not TOTALLY unrealistic haha
This is funny but i genuinely think your onto something. Considering how it was made and its weird mechanics. Its actually very possible the game was not designed to function with that many npcs on one lot. The game was created with player control in mind and focused way less on npc behavior than other games in the franchise. This is why getting sims that arnt in your household to do anything is a chore at any event. The game just was not designed with with that element in mind so the more it has to actually work to make multiple npcs do something, the game just breaks.
That's essentially how it works, yes
that's so real
Hi, I’m a user who started playing TS4 after it became free! I liked the base game a lot for the first couple months, enjoying the autonomy of my Sims and their goofy lifestyle more than anything. I had not grown up playing other Sims games and was quite impressed with it at first. I was introduced to the cracks for the game through my sister, which made me wonder what made the DLC good enough to pirate. I was big into custom content and that tied me over until they released Growing Together, which made me realize just how expensive the DLC packs were. I’ve since purchased both Growing Together and the horse pack, and I do regret it because of how broken and disappointing they are. Growing Together’s brand new milestones and some life features were broken right off the bat, causing some young sims to be unable to progress in development and some to completely change appearance after a loose tooth falls out. It really feels like EA is a money hungry company at this point
I’m one of those ppl who downloaded The Sims 4 after it was free! I always wanted to play it when I was younger, but it was always too expensive. October last year, I saw it was free, and was excited to get my grubby little custom character loving hands on it. My reaction was that it honestly felt kind if bare and boring. There was nothing to draw me in, and with most of the stuff that I thought was cool when I watched youtubers play The Sims 3&4 locked behind pretty hefty paywalls, I ended up dropping it after a few weeks. In my kind of beginner opinion, if the base game was that simple the whole time, it should’ve been free a lot sooner.
It was pathetically bare. They have been bleeding money out of us for years trying to make-up for their bad decisions, but also just because they can.
ikr, at least in sims3 base i can do a lot of stuff, but i barely able to do something new in sims 4
my sims 4 sims be like:
"i'm having an awful day, i cant do anything at this point!" (sad)
*sees painting*
"omg! how inspiring... (inspired) MY DOG POOPED IM EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTBLE" (uncomfortble)
** realizes there's a fish tank in the room ... proceeds to stare at fish tank for 16h and wet him\herself. ** Sims 4 in nutshell.
@@nookiedrivein6153 no thats so real tbh
Oh no someone saw me baking a brownie or showering
(embarrassed)
When I was very new to Sims 4 I accidentally bought the My First Pets pack instead of the Cats and Dogs pack. Instead of spending $40 to get cats and dogs I accidentally spent $60 to get cats, dogs and hamsters. That was a rough day.
Stuff packs are only $10 dollars did you buy my first pet twice on accident?
@@annawesometheflameingpikac3688they mean they bought my first pet + cats and dogs by accident instead of just buying the cats and dogs EP (i think)
@@annawesometheflameingpikac3688 packs cost different prices in other countries
@@n48_art in my first pet stuff
@@n48_art Yep and theyre fucking wild, those fuckers will literally have nuclear explosions in their cages
And, this is exactly why none of this will ever get better and they will never care about the feedback from the community. This ending speech, exactly. If you will buy it no matter what. And if you will defend it no matter what. Then what reason do they ever have to try to win you over? Their job is already done. They've already won you over without ever having to lift a finger. All they need to do is collect their cut.
Not their cut. They bleed us dry because they can. This is why I will never spend another penny on another EA game or add-on.
This entire video is just SO telling coming back to it now that they've announced the Sims 5 will be "free to enter / download" I can't say I didn't see it coming but I CAN say we are ALL disappointed in the future of the sims.
It shocks me how seasons, jobs, colleges, pets, and any type of WEATHER wasn’t added in the base game. Those things are a big part of life, how are they not included in a life simulation?
they wanted the money from releasing all of these things in dlc packs
Tbf, apart from jobs, TS2 & TS3 didn't have these things in base game as well. Let's not forget that
Weather seems to be always be in pack unfortunately
@@patisilence it makes more sense to me for weather/pets/university to be their own expansions. If they weren’t, we’d be lacking a lot of content in those areas, since they’d just be built in at a base game level. Maybe I’m just brainwashed, though, and EA should be including those things in the base game as fleshed out as they would be in an expansion (at least weather and generations). I mean, the game is (was) 60$ (I think I paid 80 when it first came out, actually), and compare that price to games like, idk, Skyrim or other really detailed ones. Idk if I’m making much sense here. I tried my best 😢😂. Sims built their entire franchise around expansion packs, so I think we have just gotten used to being ripped-off, in a way. It’s either that or don’t play the sims at all
Greed is a nasty trait :(
Custom content and mods are honestly what keeps the sims 4 so fresh and keeps people coming back
they literally got bullied into adding extra skin tones w the help of a CC creator i aint forget about that
Just remember that when Sims 5 rolls around as, if it's always online or mmo-esque, there will be no custom content as everyone you play with will have to have the same exact content installed in order to see or use them and EA will just want you to buy their macrotransactions instead.
The extreme violence mod, wicked whims, and hundreds of cc items I've got are literally carrying the game for me
yeah the mod maker/custom content creator’s backs must hurt carrying the sims 4
i've been playing the sims 4 since i think 2017 and just discovered mods this year, it's almost like a new game with the mods and i've been having so much fun
I purchased every single sims 2 and sims 3 pack as a kid. Every birthday or Christmas, my main gift list was Sims games. The sims4 is the first time I've ever not purchased a sims game, and that SHATTERED my heart. It is almost like I had a collectors' mentality about the packs, but I also enjoyed them. I've played this game since I was 8 and LOVED this franchise since I was a child. Sims4 ruined that love, and that's sad to me.
I totally agree with your comment. I loved collecting the EPs for the Sims games. But I stopped at Pets for the Sims 4... I have all of the EPs for Sims 1, 2, and 3.
You matured, that's good
@@Alyest No, Sims 4 is a wreck.
I'm old, e.g., was in my 40s when Sims 1 came out. I was intrigued when it came out as it wasn't like most of the other games I played (yeah an old female gamer - we exist) but picked it up, loved it and bought the expansions then Sims 2, Sims 3, the Sims Medieval etc.
I probably didn't play it for the same reasons as the majority of players, i.e., I loved, loved, loved building houses, shops and gardens and getting to be the playful, emotional, often irrational, young adult I couldn't be in my real life when I was that age because I was a young married mom who struggled financially while having a lot of responsibilities and little time for myself.
I just had fun playing and being silly and building more mansions than Trump could even dream of. Believe me I'm mature enough to recognize crappy gameplay when I see it and that's what Sims 4 offers and that's what @amaryeet and others have been talking about. Maybe the comments and the video were too subtle for you? Don't worry. once you're mature I'm sure you'll get the geist of what was being discussed.
@@milomilo55 i wish u well
DLC in general is a dying art. I remember buying the Sims packs, CoD packs, etc. now it’s all micro transactions that are crazy expensive. You can’t get everything anymore and it’s sad.
I miss the chaos from the sims 3. Sims bad at cooking could set the house on fire, i think dryers could also do the same thing, my favorite thing ever was when a robber would break in, there were these creepy nutcracker puppet sims that you could have do your bidding, and everu single sim in existence would autonomously do some chaotic shit. You could go out to a consignment store and a vampire could walk up and bite you.
Fr I got my mermaid sim to marry a vampire sim cause I wanted to see what would happen but he kept glitching and wouldn’t go up to the altar, resulting in the sun coming up and he burnt to death 💀
Your sim can still set the house on fire, even with a fire alarm. If you just don't extinguish anything.
I always thought that the Sims 4 emotions were at least a little realistic because I related to a lot of how their emotions worked, then I found out my family has a history of rapid switching bipolar
So... Yeah
im going to hell for cackling at that-
I was about to comment this too lol, history of bipolar and BPD in the family so it wasn’t weird to me that their entire personalities seemed to change with intense moods lol
LMAO
HOLD ON NOW
Yeah I have autism and BPD and I can reasonably justify many of the emotions in sims 4 lol
One of the big scandals in the Sims community was the terrible, terrible EA builds. I remember Strangerville having houses with completely empty rooms and a house with a nonfunctional kitchen (because the counters were blocked by a fruit bowl), Get Famous having a mansion with no toilets in any of the bathrooms, and Realm of Magic having a house with a staircase that led to a blank wall instead of a door. Now that they've started getting Sims community members to do the builds it has been a massive improvement and I'm glad that they took in people's feedback on those builds, but it was dark days for a while there.
Honestly as much as i get the criticism of the houses being bad (they were terrible), i actually want the houses to be bad so that i can renovate, remodel, or tear down on a whim. The houses in mt komorebi are TOO good. There's not much i can do to make them better architecturally, and are often more creative than i could build so i don't want to tear them down. I think it comes down to what your gameplay style is, bc i don't actually play the game, i just use bb and cas, so i don't need/want my prebuilt houses to be pretty. Whereas, i see how pretty houses would be needed/wanted by ppl who just want pretty houses, don't use bb, or use bb differently than i do. The best solution i can think of having a mix of EA builds and simmer builds in each world
I've always thought it was on purpose because in Strangerville's storyline you can get your furniture taken by, like, the military ? I remember having my fridge taken away 😅
@@_Lavande_ YEAH! THE FUCKING STRANGERVILLE MEN IN BLACK STOLE MY FRIDGE AND I DIDN'T NOTICE UNTIL LIKE 30 MINUTES AFTER IT HAPPENED!
strangerville builds looked so cute on the outside, but the interiors were just atrocious
THIS. I never needed to replace the builds in The Sims 3 worlds because they were done so well. I remember moving my sims in and not even needing to redecorate (Starlight Shores and Sunlit Tides had some really gorgeous lots). Especially starter homes.
I have a feeling Sims 5 will be multi-player opinional for a fee and alot of money grabbing shenanigans. Sims 3 will always be my ride or die! Also awesome video! Perfect to create a sim too 😂
In Sims 5 there's gonna be a pack "seasons" and "holidays", then is Sims 6 it's gonna be like "rain" "sunny weather" "winter" "autumn" and then "holidays"
EA became one of the worst and greediest companies, I miss the era of the peak of The Sims!! 😔
EA has been getting better though recently with dead space remake, It takes 2 and the new single player star wars game
@@p-__ congratulations
That wasn't EA who made Sims great, it was Maxis through and through
@@Janfon1 I think so too
Thing is EA used to be revolutionary by being one of the first gaming companies to give credits to the devs , and promoted the devs as artists you know just like how the A in EA is for arts . Insane how they are the poster child for shit now
Your production value has gone noticeably up - from your camera to your thumbnail design. Don't think we didn't notice :)
I know right! I still rewatch the old vids but it great how much they’ve grown!❤
@@DaisyBee678 i constantly re watch her old vidddssss
Nails are as great as ever tho
You like the Sims Diamond on her head.
You are right. The image looks super clear
I feel like EA's obsession with making an online Sims game is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of why people play the Sims. For me personally, at least, I play the Sims when I DON'T want to actually interact with people, but still want to fill my "social" gauge, in Sims terms. Having an online version of the game fully ruins the point - when your gameplay is fundamentally based on social simulations, and you remove the simulation part, of course all you have left is a glorified chatroom. What's the point?
the stray animals feature in cats&dogs always leads to me maxing out my household with pets i’ve adopted out of pity
I cannot live in that world for that very reason. In most worlds, there are a few, but in the world that came with that pack, it is over-done.
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Hehe, meanwhile the last milestone in the pet life aspirations where you had to play with two ghost animals? I may have stopped visiting the vets when my oldest two pets got sick. (But common, they got sick all the time as elders. And even though you could easily fix it yourself, I liked playing off the grid so that wouldn't work)
In The Sims 3 Late Night we got: vampires, apartments, celebrities/fame system, and hot tubs but all of those things were in separate packs for The Sims 4 🙃
To be fair vampires from late night were shit. They don't have even the half of functionality from sims 4.
The same with Sims 3 Supernatural. We got fairy's, werewolfs and witches. And now everything is separate. I wouldn't be surprised if we get fairies someday.
It’s because now it’s all about money which is sad.
Ok so does anybody here play the Sims 4? I need help with something
Okay so I made a family and everything was going normal until I noticed that one of my sins was in two places at once
I then realized that my sim was cloned and now all of the others are clones too 😭
Help
@@ari_ismynameee maybe it’s a mod?
So I actually worked on Sims 4 as QA for about a year. This was around when Restaurants, Apartments/City life, and Pets were being worked on(though Pets was a secret even in the team at this point, very early in dev). If your restaurant works because the chef basically turns into a piece of the furniture rather than being an actual Sim, hey, that was me, I found the bug that made that necessary.
Anyway, we got to meet the devs at one point, two of them came to talk to us at where we worked. They got a bunch of us in a room and we'd get to talk to them in small groups. When we got in there(maybe halfway through the line, we had over a hundred staff), they just looked _tired_. We talked a bit, and a question came up about the engine. We'd known for a while that they had been forced to use a new engine for Sims 4(which is where most of the massive problems with the game actually originate from) rather than iterate on the one that they'd been using so well for Sims 3. And one of the devs sat up like he was going to answer, but their 'company representative' who was with them just snapped over to look at him, and he slowly settled back down again while the other dev simply said 'We thought it was a good idea'. Never felt more sorry for someone.
that last part doesn't surprise me. i've always suspected it's EA that's responsible for this, not the sims team. members of the team seem to genuinely want to make a fun game, but EA has a stranglehold on them; unless something is the option that produces the most money the fastest, regardless of how awful it is for the players, it Must Be Done.
@MentalMaladies honestly when a game fails like this it's 100% of the time on the publisher. Developers don't want to make a horrible experience. They aren't in control of how it's monetized but still expected to make the content. Sometimes with crunch hours.
Sounds like an unpleasant work environment. I get that EA wouldn't want devs to speak openly about the challenges of the development, lest it be taken as a PR statement, but when one can't even speak freely WITHIN the company? What's up with that?
So in short, EA as a company is a disaster to work for. What else is new.
My partner, who is a programmer for a major EU company, says the same thing. Higher ups think they know better and force everybody to use methods that are impractical, cause more work and stress, or are just downright moronic. Some aspects seem so modern, yet in other ways their ways, views and opinions are outdated or mediocre at best. He says so many amazing and talented individuals aren't allowed to grow or flourish, their talents going to waste for years. Many of his coworkers ended up leaving for better and bigger things that won't restrain them anymore, and he's going to do the same in a few months.
Mini rant over lol, companies need to realize the knowledge and ideas of those "lower" are generally the freshest ones. Expand the team, pull members from all sorts of different levels, ages, skills and talents to avoid bias. That's what a successful company is in my books.
Unrelated but as a 3rd world country QA, I'm very impressed by your curriculum! Gives me hope to someday become a game tester, that's such a nice acheivement. I hope you're still working in amazing projects such as the sims and reinforcing the importance of quality 🥰
I really don't understand how Sims players can stomach all the DLC. I've wanted to try the series more than once now but going to the store page and seeing hundreds of pounds of paywalled features and content is genuinely repulsive.
one word: FitGirl
literal life saver.
You forgot the incident at the high school years pack! In short, an updated relationships feature resulted in some inappropriate relationship between adults and children.
“Death by summoning a cryptid as a prank and then actually summoning a real cryptid” is the most sims death I can possibly think of. 10/10 game no notes.
What pack is that from? I don't remember that at all
@@breathinghumanperson3855 its from that high school expansion(?) pack
@@breathinghumanperson3855 It’s from high school years
Maybe I never explored it enough, but the vacations from Sims 3 to Sims 4 was a left down. In 3, I went to Egypt, and there was a TON of stuff to do. In Sims 4, I went camping and ... Sat by a fire.
I got Jungle Adventures and I regret it… I thought it would be a cute honeymoon spot but there’s nothing to do and there’s barely any sims there
Yes, it was so fun!! One of the best things to do❤
I actually thought vacations were best in Sims 2.
Sims 3 WA were beautiful locations and plenty to do but you could really only focus on one Sim, the rest just sat at the hotel the whole time (or base camp). Also, the visa thing was unneccessary and annoying
@@colinvanblaricom6573 In my opinion going on vacation in sims 2 bon voyage is extremly tiring, if you want to go to another lot you have all those loading screens and in my opinion there isn’t much to do.
@@Pollicina_db It depends, back then taking your family on vacation was quite an occasion. Hell, I'd do it routinely just for the sim memory thing. It was also how you would get the voodoo doll.
We haven't even talked about how the weather in Seasons wasn't compatible with ANY other pack, creating difficulties combining them but not being able to fix these issues or remove certain contradicting features (:
I remember before the game came out and EA was advertising a game with real consequences, where small changes and interactions with sims would have long complex effects on the world over time. Kind of a butterfly effects situation.. Needless to say, none of that ever actually happened.
It was the colour wheel for me. Having the freedom to change sims hair to three separate colours if I wanted to, and making every wood the exact same colour when decorating was brilliant!
To then go to the sims 4 where you can’t customise was infuriating! There are objects in buy mode that I absolutely love, but the colour options and combinations are horrible, and so I never use them. It’s a shame.
To THEN give us the colour wheel but JUST for pets almost felt like a slap in the face.
I’ll never forgive taking the colour wheel away .
Sounds like everything was about budget, but I feel you.
They didn’t just do it for pets , werewolves have their own colour wheel 😂😂 but I don’t like the sims 4 colours more so the older hairstyle colours like the black wasn’t black it was black-blue and their golden blonde never was golden blonde it was mustard yellow . also their unnatural colours look a little off too . I mean the pets can literally have heterchromia eyes
@@KASPlaysSims ahh I stopped buying expansions and packs, so I didn’t actually know that about werewolves !
@@KASPlaysSims Black is never truly black. They always have some kind of undertone because true black is hard to actually make look good. Black-Blue is the most common.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 yeah . I imagine That’s why . In recent updates there’s now more shades and the blue undertone is not as prominent .
The thing I hate the most is that EA strips away all the previous game features to sell them back again as Expansion Packs, in full game price. They can't keep getting away with that.
Launching a new Sims game with the bare bones does sound like a rip-off, but you can't convince me that launching without burglars or ghosts from the start is a Bad Thing.
Imagine watching a burglar enter your house and shrinking your hard-earned TV in to a bag with a simoleon on it.
Also, why do those DLC title parts remind me of 'Mistletoe' by Justin Bieber?
@JQ89 It's bad because it takes the unpredictability out of the game. It's a life simulator. Life can be unpredictable, hence the burglars and ghosts and craziness. I'd say it's a bad thing to leave out something so basic when it was included the previous games
exactly, i'm a huge fan of the game, but i hate that things like seasons and pets are things you have to buy, i feel like those are basic things, like if exotic pets cost extra that'd be one thing, but cats and dogs feel reasonable to have in base game...and it'd be forgivable if they weren't all so expensive, they're like 40$ each, you could get multiple games off steam for that much
it's a free game, i get that, but really only in theory, since getting an expansion pack, if not multiple, is seen as an expectation...it's not mandatory, obviously, but they seem to just give us just the bare minimum of what they think will keep people interested, with the hopes they'll buy the rest of the expansion packs
Piracy :)
@jasperjazzie It's free now, but when it first came out, the base game was $60 so it now being free is even more of a slap in the face for those who pre-ordered & bought it at full price only to be sold back removed parts of the game that should have been there to begin with for $20 to $40 a pop. Since Izzzyzzz pre-ordered she also paid $60 for an extremely incomplete game.
I honestly think the sims team could make a killing updating and re-releasing the sims 2 & 3. I miss the lore of the sims 2 and the open world of sims 3 and the depth of story telling in both. I’ve bled money into the sims 4 but the spark just isn’t the same. (Mods help so much but I’m so lazy to update them 😭😭)
This is how many of us in the TS3 community feel. Unfortunately, not only did they drop support for Sims 3, they deliberately crippled Create a World with the new EA App so no one could build worlds anymore unless they went out and bought all the discs or switched over to Steam.
I was honestly genuinely upset about Journey to Baatu. It was a really cool idea and it could bave been a great expansion pack if only they had put a little more effort and time into it. My main issue with it is that after completing the story, nothing really happens. It doesn’t matter which faction you choose to work for, there are no actual repercussions. So what even is the point of making me choose and completing the storyline? The “aliens” being masks has also been a huge letdown. Like, actual aliens were already in the game, how hard could it be to add a couple more occults to CAS? Baatu could have been a really cool world to live in, but they just wasted it.
There's also the fact that the unique interactions from it carry back to the non-Baatu areas and have priory in the action wheel so they end up cluttering the random interactions up and can even force you to have to manually choose an interaction type if it didn't show up in the wheel because the Baatu interactions got in the way.
I'm not even a hardcore Star Wars fan, but snatched that one up and was deflated by the stale world.
I laugh that the studios said that making SimCity offline playable was "impossible" then within that week, someone hacked it to be played offline 😂😂😂
nothing is impossible in any sims game. just gotta have the knowledge to make it happen. seems like the sims 4 team was LACKING.
The sentiment that making ANY game playable offline is impossible is absolutely fucking bogus. Literally whenever you start making a game, you start with OFFLINE prototypes, the online functionality needs to be added later and pretty much never is (nor should be) crucial to how the game works
Everything EA said was "impossible" or more difficult was always because they hoped they could fleece younger generations for all they could.
@@sufficientphrase7769 If a modern game dev says something is "impossible" it's just their way of saying they are too lazy to actually put effort.
It depends. If the game is exclusively processed server-side it's much more difficult to pull it off because of the lack of server-side source code, and SimCity isn't one of them. They used the server just for cloud saves and online DRM.
Other controversies missed: the sims team's struggle with black hairstyles and incest. Less big but I've also seen fans complain about adults interacting with children while 'flirty', they cannot perform any flirty interactions with children but many people find it uncomfortable when a parent helps their child with homework and then bites their lip sensually as an idle animation.
WTFFFF🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
you could marry your sibling in sims 4 or what
@zkme if they aren't directly related, they can flirt and be flirty. When my teenage Sim aged up to a young adult, she had the option to flirt with her step dad. They also don't have a great genealogy tree, so if you have a cousin that isn't your first, you can date them.
@@bizzybeee ewwwwwwwwwwwww
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I don't really follow updates about this game since for the last however many years it's just been packs and kits, but I had no idea that for the 20th anniversary of the franchise all we got was a freakin hot tub??? Other franchise use these big dates to sell merch, announce spin-offs and reboots, etc... and all the sims fans got was an in-game item??
I started playing in 2023, and I immediately got the vibes that this game was a means to sell the extra content. I enjoy the game immensely now that I bought some of the extra content, and it's so crazy to me that this game was originally supposed to be "stable". I'm flabbergasted at the fact this game still has bugs so many years later.
I just miss the open world so much. All my sims 4 sims are the biggest loners because the loading screens just make going anywhere so annoying too me. As soon as I play with more than one sim they are basically never leaving because I hate that I cannot control both of them at the same time unless they are in the same place. Weirdly, I also just loved watching my sims travel to different parts of their town by bike or in a car because I loved the animation and how realistic it made the game. There was just so much more to do.
The travelling system was weird and wonderful. I remember my sim having a car, and she usually took the car for a bit and then hopped into the subway, and then ran. Like why don’t you JUST take the car? It’s literally possible and easier than car> subway> run
Watching them ride in the car was huge for me. I remember when I was little I would make up stories depending on who sat in the front seat or the back seat. Once they got to their destination I would play as if they had a fight if they were separated, or they would have a wonderful date if they sat together.
I still play The Sims 3 JUST for its Open map !
I feel the same. I also found the absolutely tiny neighbourhoods kind of a bummer. There would maybe be 7 houses per neighbourhood and you're basically the only one living there until you move other sim familys in via other playthroughs. I could never tell if I liked that feature or if it made my world incredibly boring. If all my neighbours are also me, there's nothing to learn about them.
@@sarahhollings7623 fr Sims3 felt big even before expansions. I think sims3's biggest flaw in later years was lack of expansion and city integration. For example if you've got a supernatural character but you live in any world that isn't the supernatural town, there's basically no other supernaturals in existence. Same with the pets expansion. If you live in the pet town everyone has one, there's pet stuff to do everywhere. If you live in any other town there's just wild pets and nobody else actually has pets, it's just you. Most expansions just didn't integrate well, which made it a real bummer that I'd have to create a new household to enjoy the content I purchased.
"My first pet stuff" as it's own section was an absolutely terrifying jumpscare
Underrated comment 😂
52:55 I do recall that the Sims 2 was gifted to all Origin accounts way before 2022, in a pack that included all the expansions.
I have that version in my account.
Thank you for the vid. It was nice.
I've never heard that. Anyhow, what's the point? My Sims 2 will not boot with any expansion packs.
As someone who grew up playing Sims 1 and later Sims 2, I was never a big fan of Sims 3. It ran TERRIBLY on my computer and it seems to still have that issue to this day, even on high end systems. So I don't have a lot of playtime in Sims 3 for that reason and don't have nostalgia for it either, and think getting rid of the open world was a good thing in that sense. Sims 4 was a great upgrade visually in my opinion, but if you compare it to the Sims 2, the animations etc. are all underwhelming. Playing 'Live' mode in the Sims 4 is a pain in the butt, but I do love the Sims 4 'Build' mode - when that isn't buggy, lol. TLDR you play Sims 4 to build not to play with sims, imo (which isn't a good thing, it's supposed to be a life sim). The best one for me personally is the Sims 2.
My biggest gripe with Sims 4 wasn't the bugs, it was the insane gutting of content and gameplay mechanics that were already in Sims 3 and earlier
Like separating the Supernatural packs, etc to its own individual packs.
its like the start of a metroid game except to get your stuff back again you gotta buy the expansions again lol
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska i know some people feel justified with this criticism, but we also got some of the strongest occults because of this choice allowing more budget and time to focus on them. natural/realistic packs like todders/parenthood/growing together and c+d/MFPS being shattered up into different packs is frustrating because it leaves that gameplay feeling disjointed and fractured, but honestly i don't feel the same way about the magic packs. i sure do have criticisms of elements within the packs, but i enjoy ts4's vampires in particular more than any other iteration of sim vampire because of how much more expanded they are, and we never would have gotten that if it had been ts4 spn
@@emryspaperart Agreed, unpopular opinion I feel like Vampires is the only occult that somehow benefitted from the fracture with the perks/weakness system. I like furry looking werewolves as much as the next guy... but I wish they could be scarier? Same for the spectres in Supernatural, I love the cutie angy spectres but they gotta add some stuff that's scarier than Temperance. I agree with the realistic packs, Growing Together and High School Years made me lose whatever remaining motivation I have to buy Parenthood.
Yes! We were all hoping for sims 3 but even better graphics and we basically got sims freeplay level content 😭
I forgot about that damn dust DLC. "Oh, you haven't vacummed your home in the last 3 hours. It's now covered in an inch of dust and living dust bunnies. #LifeSim"
Hated it and was glad there is an option to turn it off on the settings
The fact you have to pay 5$ for DUST really does say something
to be fair that's realistic when you have dark furniture 😅
I don't like dusting my real home. I never bought that pack. See, I had bought the laundry pack....
I love hearing about your experience with the sims vs my own as I was a kid/tween when the first one came out. I bought the base game and 3 expansions with my 12th birthday money. I got really into the second one. Back then you could share the packs as long as you owned at least one pack, whichever one you installed last would be the one you needed the CD to use to play so me and my friends all shared our packs so we didn't have to buy them all. By the time the third one came out I was a young adult and I had no extra money, my computer could barely run it, I couldn't afford any expansion packs so I barely touched it and always went back to The Sims 2. I basically jumped from 2-4 I never got to fully enjoy the glory of 3.
I love when LGR get's source'd
I'll admit the most fun i get from the sims 4 is that I'm currently juggling 37 different sims with elaborate backstories that exist only in my head.
same. that and also just making my own characters that i’ve already drawn and written for to play out their day to day lives
In yo head
Same here. I've only ever played with a one Sims 4 game file and I'm now on the 56th generator so there has been loads of drama and the plot is absolutely insane that if I ever made a book of it I would actually have the money to buy a castle from middle Europe.
Sorry for my bad English.
@@snowy_gateaway7583 Your English is almost perfect, just use more commas and "generator" should read "generation"
homie you should look into rimworld
The botched emotional system makes me absolutely cherish the Meaningful Stories mod. It's a game-changer.
With getting together I have a toddler that keeps crying and throwing tantrums because his parents are spending time with his infant sister to push through some more milestones. That is an emotion done right!
is it working alright with the new updates?
Console players rn 😭
Pun intended?🤣
I picked up The Sims Makin Magic as a 6 year old in 2005 not knowing it was an expansion pack and subsequently couldn't play it, though I was mesmerised by the box art, the magician, fairy, gnome, mummy, snake charmer, everything magical and whimsical. Then we bought The Sims 2 and I played it to bits (despite my first interaction with the Sims 1 not knowing there were expansion packs for The Sims 2, my family wasn't big on technology or gaming) and I have the fondest memories for that game and the endless possibilities it seemed to offer (my niece was practicing building houses because she wanted to become an architect). From The Sims 3 onward I started collecting more and more expansion packs (though no stuff packs). I didn't like 3 at first, but eventually warmed up to it and still have fond memories of that as well, especially World Adventures, Generations and Supernatural. The Sims 4 is really weird, because I was enamoured by Create a Sim and Build mode, but beyond that I have almost no fond memories of the game (even after 10 years). It constantly carries the promise that you can do anything (and I do fantasize about what I could do), but in the end I just spent hundreds of euros buying expansion packs, only to play the game for short amounts of times and not connecting to it like I did with The Sims 2 and 3. Part of it is probably my own life's background, my mental state and the fact that I've grown up, but The Sims 4 remains to me a pretty thing with no grit or vision, an empty shell of promise. As an adult I would much rather fantasize about and come up with my own ideal Sims game than actually playing the real thing, even though I would never actually release a game. Thanks for sharing Izzy and thanks for reading. Greetings from Antwerp, Belgium.
I started playing the Sims 4 shortly after Cottage Living came out so I got the base game for $5. This was my first Sims game that I've ever played. It's interesting to learn about the past with Strangerville and Eco Lifestyle as those are two of my favorite packs.
i had a wedding last week in my game with wedding stories and all of the guests decided to sit in the middle of the aisle, my sim couldn't even walk down and then I realized the groom had somehow left the lot....was holding back tears my wedding was ruined man
Reaaaal if their coding is so difficult that they can’t bring sims to actually follow basic orders they should just bring back cut scenes like on the sims 2? Like how come it’s so hard? 😭
They say art imitates life, and that about sums up my IRL wedding. Did the guests at least register any gifts? Or however that works lol.
The EXACT same thing happened to me for my sim’s wedding as well guests kept sitting in the middle of the aisle and the groom left the lot as well,I took so much time getting this wedding ready and was so pissed it didn’t work I stopped the ceremony went to make my sims get married without a gathering made them divorce right after kicked the "Husband" out and frantically tried to kill him by drowning him in one of the pool I had placed in what was supposed to be their wedding venue and let me tell you I never felt so liberated by killing a sim before,I then made my other sim get a job as a marine biologist and since she had a prestigious degree she moved into a huge mansion in Sulani as the independent boss b** she is
I’m sorry for your loss, my guy.
I wanted a wedding pack so bad and I still haven't gotten wedding stories because of how buggy it is
It’s insane how this video is an hour long and there are still people in the comments saying “I’m surprised you didn’t mention X!” Like…that’s how FUCKED this game is
its pretty fucked, even with the expansions and tons of "stuff" packs
I'm going to be honest. I hate the sentiments. My sim was roughhousing with his toddler and now every time he's around or tries to interact with her, she becomes upset. But he can't do anything about it because she'll just throw a fit ...
Sis what on earth do you want me to do? You can't take care of yourself 😭
I've not played Sims 4. I remember being frustrated with Sims 2 about the fact nobody aged at the same time, because of the isolated lots. Sims 3 was my absolutly favorite because all the city move so I don't have to quit my Sims to go âge its crush so they can continue dating. When I saw Sims 4 returns to close lots, I know it wasnt for me
Also, to add to the list of drama:
-Bust the Dust was ironically busted as hell. Dust spawned too quickly, the aspirations were broken, dust bunnies brought back insanely expensive items and constantly added money to your family. Also refer to the general packs point below
-The NAPs were also broken where you could have every action plan active at once regardless of voting
-The cakes in Wedding Stories spoiled because they were essentially kept in an inventory until the wedding.
-The social menu is absolutely ridiculously bloated with interactions like Ask If Mermaid that are essentially useless
-The packs all included mood buffs that overpowered any other moodlet and often were inconsequential things (e.g.the floor being clean)
-Skintones in the update were extremely broken as mentioned and are still very broken. The cool and neutral skintones would often produce kids with warm skintones or would be outside the parents shade range.
-In the NEW expac, the losing a tooth moodlet/function would make sims faces change when they age up by making the nose a lot smaller and move it up the face til they look like the Whovillians
And then LGR stopped covering it because he was getting bored and he didn’t want to become just a Sims 4 channel.
Now he rarely makes content for that game….and for good reason.
"The cakes in Wedding Stories spoiled because they were essentially kept in an inventory until the wedding."
That reminded me of FakeGamerGirl ranting about the wedding cake rotting! 😆
I had to have one of my sims make the wedding cake, because the father gen 1 is a celebrity chef. So everything they ate was excellent quality, and they all have very high cooking and gourmet skills. Then I got the pack where it introduced fame, and they all have the picky taste quirk….so yeah. Restaurants, food stalls, any random food isn’t a pleasant experience for anyone. And I’m in gen 3 🥲🥲
"The social menu is absolutely ridiculously bloated with interactions like Ask If Mermaid that are essentially useless" omg this! Like many others who have a lot of hours on Sims 4 I'm familiar with 99% of the social menu and it still kills me how much you have to click through it to find the specific interaction I want for the situation 😵 the fears update also drove me insane with how hard it is to find the specific interactions that will help solve fears when they're buried in 5 layers of nonsense with 50 different interactions available at any given time.
is THAT why my teen looks like that? i thought his genetics were just bad and coming out during puberty 💀 good thing I'm not opposed to using testingcheats
see, the emotions system is actually a really subtle piece of storytelling- every sim has a mood disorder, and it's a very well done, nuanced depiction of daily life with this overwhelming mental health issue. EA wanted simmers with mood disorders to feel understood, and those without to be more sympathetic to people suffering with them.
... or it's just a bad, busted system.
bpd girlies *finally* get their representation
I believe in mood/mental disorder ✊
@@plastic4872 finally I can accurately make myself in the sims
You had me in the first half
@@pumpkinicing yes finally I can make myself humanoid dragon slaves
all my dreams are coming true all at once
I just started watching your videos and I’ve been binge watching them all! I love the longer ones as well! Awesome channel!!
In reference to this video I got the Sims 4, because I too loved every other version. It tends to be pretty glitchy but the funniest thing to me is a Sim I made. I swear he has sentience; no matter how I try to make him nice he’s a jerk ass at all times; and I find it absolutely hilarious. I’ve tried to remake him from scratch without using my saved model and adjusted the personality traits and he still turned into a menace.
HELP this is so funny 😭😭😭😭 he is DETERMINED to be an asshole 😭😭😭😭😭
I'm a new Sims player. I have heard of it but I was never able to convince my parents to buy it for me when I was younger. I was able to play the Sims where you live with a grandma using someone else's game/ console before. I really like S4 so far and was lucky to grab the free packs they offered on Epic, but wished for more. I loved watching other ppl's Sims series on YT and getting invested in the stories! I'm now resorting to CC to enhance my enjoyment and once I find a job I can hopefully buy the packs that I would the most without paying 1k
I'm slowly learning about the community I was never able to join, and this video helps a lot! Sort of like a sims museum archive.
So far I'm liking Seasons, Snowy Escape, Eco Lifestyle, Book Nook, Vampires, werewolves, Paranormal, Tiny Living, Magic and Laundry. I heard S4 also did a hispanic month thing and was surprised they put a dish from my country which I was rlly hyped about and told my family
I'm honestly astonished to how much change a large amount of fans can do petitioning and yelling louder even bringing their concerns w/ the white house lol
Hearing you describe how the sims lost its dark lore in the newest installment, I feel the fans for Animal Crossing also feel the same since the animals seem to have lost their edge a lot as well. They made them more friendly and less fleshed out in a lot of ways and many of them say the same thing (assuming they have the same personality type). It was fun to look up conspiracies on Animal Crossing much like it is for Sims. It's more casual on the outside, but finding the mystery was the real challenge. I miss it too.
New Horizons also made Lazy sims from sleepy, lazy foodies to constantly talking about their lack of hygiene which makes me sad and made me feel like I lost the character who helped me as a little girl through my mum’s cancer, Egbert. The lazy personality is unrecognisable in new horizons
@@chattychatotchannel thank god im still stuck with wild world Filbert my god i hate new horizons just because they straight up ruined some personalities. i can def agree that customization is top notch, but everything else..? eh..
As someone who’s been playing Animal Crossing since the VERY beginning, I resonate with this a lot lol. I may have been slightly traumatized by the villagers roasting me when I just a tiny kid, but guess what, I have fond memories of that!! The fact they sanitized the later games so much is disappointing. I find myself not giving a crap about the villagers despite the fact they’re supposed to be the main draw of the game. Instead it’s been turned into a decorating sim… which other games have done far better, leaving New Horizons to feel obsolete right upon release for me personally.
@@chattychatotchannel I do kinda like the peppy personality in NH. Tangy has total crackhead energy and it makes me laugh.
Stuff like this is why I’m so excited for other life-sim games like Paralives and Life by You. Not because I want the sims to fail and be replaced, but because I think competition will force it to improve
Paralives I am def giving a try, but Sims 4 will always be the life sim game I cherish the most.
@@silverhowl9331 Sims 4? Have you played the other sims games?
@@jorrdan. The only Sims games I've played are The Sims 2 Castaway, The Sims Mobile, and The Sims Freeplay (I'm kind of on and off with that one). Guess I'm not a real Simmer.
@@PsychedelicCharm I don’t think they’re implying that you have to play the other games to be a simmer, I think they’re just surprised someone actually likes the sims 4 the best and is curious if they’ve played the others (which most people prefer)
@@sophiathefurbst No lie I had a friend who preferred Sims4 over Sims 2. They hated the lack of diversity in Sims 2 CAS and graphics although they did like the story and lore. I got a friend who love Batuu because they're a longtime Starwars fan and had a blast with the CAS and Builds. I personally like Sims 4 toddlers and infants more than in any other installation. I'm also goth so Vampires is my jam. Different simmers value different things.
the sims 4 makes me so sad because there is SO much potential. its very clear that the team behind is very talented. this is absolutely an instance of higher ups being lazy and wanting to make as much money as possible and its heartwrenching because this franchise is practically ruined. i pirated the whole game because the packs price is insane, its so unfair to the other sims games, the people working on the game, and most importantly the people who keep this franchise alive by paying because they love this game so much.
My biggest turn-off in Sims4 was that I couldn't multitask. I hated not being in an open-world, because I always liked to have a full household with kids and animals and manage them going about their everyday life. It was challenging to keep track of everybody, and to me that was the most fun about the whole thing. Sims4 just didn't cut it for me then.
I really missed that part, too!
I love world adventures, but until now, its so damn hard managing sims if one of them is in the tombs and others somewhere else. You just look elsewhere, and suddenly, your sim walked straight into a trap :v..
@@ple8379 its an EP for single-sim households, it was advertised that way, i honestly wouldnt want to play with other sims while one is exploring, its distracting and takes away the vibe of tombs
@@mmgs1148 I know, I mostly play with one sim anyway, but as someone who explored mostly all tombs, I know them very well, and it's a good challenge to keep it entertaining
people seem to forget that while sims 3 had an open world, it was a mistake and just too much even now, that's why to this day it doesn't even run well on the best computers. wanting this to continue in sims 4 is ridiculous. i'm glad we don't have that anymore and the neighbourhoods are enough, there's no need for an open world. that's why you can see the new games being developed, the paralives one, ''sims 5'' etc. they all look the same but also different from the traditional sims. they seem to have an open world but the characters look like crap. the sims 2 and 4 are similar because you're focused on 1 lot and on your sims, not the whole world. if you have an open world like sims 3 then you're able to see more but your sims look like potatoes. i'd rather be able to create a nice sim and a nice house than be able to see every tree in town and play zoomed out all the time. you can't have it all at once. and the loading screens in sims 4 aren't even bad at all. sims 4 is a very light game and it's great that it's made to be like that. not that heavy giant rock that sims 3 was. you're not seeing the entire city in real life either, your real life loading screen is having to actually walk or travel somewhere lol.
“I don’t wanna give off the impression that I’m a hater”
You’re wearing a Plumbob headband and you drew Plumbobs on your face. I don’t think anyone thinks you’re a hater lol. 💙
Most of "hate" the sims 4 gets is from ts1, 2 and 3 players. Each game had something great about it. that was not the case w ts4 I only played the demo, the CAS is truly great but the create and simulation mode is awful. if we can get the sims 4 cas, the sims 2 simulation mode and the sims 3 open world and create a style, the sims 5 would be excellent.
@@Critical-Schedule145 I don’t understand your reply to me saying that I don’t think anyone thinks Izzy is a hater.
And it's also valid to hate on EA since they just treat their players like absolute sh1t
@@marylee1278 there’s no denying that but why comment that under my comment reassuring Izzy that nobody thinks she’s a hater??????
@@ALICExSINx oh no i dont mean anything bad abt my comment towards u at all! Sorry if it came off as mean
I grew up with Sims 1 and 2, and played a fair bit of Sims 3, but when the Sim City reboot bombed I didn't bother going for Sims 4. Once it went free-to-play I gave it a shot, I realized that the 'me' playing Sims now, versus the 'me' playing Sims back in 2004, are no longer the same person. Wouldn't say my love for simulation games is gone, but it feels lot emptier playing it now. I knew it the moment I watched my Sim spend hours on his computer just like I literally am, and the irony was too intense.
Wow. I had no idea a person could feel EXACTLY how I feel about the sims 4, 3, AND 2
Thank you for making this video
I played The Sims 4 before The Sims 3. I was so overwhelmed, and I was like omg I can’t imagine how UNDERwhelmed people were going the other way around.
In total, you plus those people combined must have been just whelmed.
Yeah I played sims 3 first and then tried sims 4 with a few packs. Played it for a few days and then left it because I was bored.
yup. I can still remember the disappointment of opening the shiny new game to a 2D all white map, with no pools, toddlers, cars, terrain tools and most of basegame jobs. I got bored sooo fast. Especially comparing my first time playing Sims 3 base game! Coming from sims 2 to 3? Awesome! 3 to 4? Not so much.
I got Sims 4 after the base game became free. What bothered me was the lack of back story for the townies. The social interactions were too easy and my sim, despite having high free will, ended up doing the same things again and again when I left him alone. Having a loading screen to go to a restaurant also bothered me more than I thought it would. I'm now back on Sims 3, I only use Sims 4 to build houses.
From the ig the sims to Sims 2 to sims 3 made me think that the franchise can only become better. I didn't buy the sims 4 bc I was old enough to not get it as a present and I don't spend a dime on games with my own money. I played it with a friend who had many mods. I thought at first the mods was the og sims 4 and I was like "damn they got bipolar disorder to make it extra hard mode?" They hadn't. I played the fitgirl sims 4 later by myself and was so underwhelmed. But so happy it's the only one I never bought (through my parents the first ones)
I needed this after my sims 4 infant aged up to a toddler and she was covered in blood that I could not figure out how to remove in CAS. Decided to run with it and enable her autonomy to kill other sims with a mod…. immediately attempts to murder her mom and now there’s 4 urns on the sidewalk 😭
i needed this after watching my friend's sim get woohoo'd during the third trimester of their pregnancy
oh no
that definitely sounds like a creepypasta
Sacrificial's murder toddler mod?
Dang…I already can’t stand the infants I can’t even imagine having a baby who went to hell and back and then back to hell
@@spoopyvirgil4944 yes I had never used it before, I didn’t realize there would be an immediate bloodbath but jessabelle has bloodlust ig
I got Sims 4 in 2018 when it was free on Origin. It was the same day I begged my parents to get it for me. And then my sister was like "IT'S FREE RIGHT NOW". Love it. Mostly play create a sim though lol.
If a new update for a game such as minecraft, or genshin impact where you are given so much new content, was priced the same as a sim expansion, it would be mental - while yes the older games had expansions, its lifespans have been over half the time of the sims 4, the fact the sims 4 has got away with this for almost 10 years is crazy to me
the best bug in wedding stories was the broken spousal kiss 😂 the sims were kissing while facing different directions lmao
you say were as if it wouldn't still happen haha. I tried to have a nice wedding but no event worked, had to do over 50 broken spousal kisses and that mess still didn't work!! And every second kiss had them stretching into 5 different directions
@@DeepSlumber i legit thought they patched it 😭 ea strikes again
@@ririinies one day I hope, one f*ckn day 😭
"NOOOO, YOU MUSTY SPEND HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS ON EXPLOITIVE PRICES TO HAVE MORE CONTENT!!!"
Me waiting for FitGirl to pirate the game again with the new expansion pack: 🍷🗿
😂😂😂😂
I grew up playing the original The Sims, had all the expansion packs and whatnot.
I loved the dark-and-twisted humor it had going on, and I must admit it helped to shape part of my personality.
It was a great shame when I decided to play The Dims 4 and found a game which is mostly plastic in its personality. So… devoid of what made it special for me.
Your video really helped me understand what happened in the series. Than you so much
I just heard how you were wondering about how the Sims being free was for new players, and for me, it was like a door opening for me. I was stuck just watching the sims games and barely continuing playing Sims Moblie, and right now, I haven’t even touched it. But it becoming free has made me invested it learning about the community, getting back into the sims, and it really revitalize my Sims 4 era when I was younger.
And that fact that after the window incident EA’s response literally included the word « paneful »
unforgivable
Are you French? Just curious
And I think most people would have overlooked the absent window, if it hadn't been the fact that at this point, stuff like this was just a long running issue with EA. With every pack, with every update, it's something, something doesn't work, something wasn't included, something was rushed with poor quality. It's just straight up disrespect at this point.
WINDOW PUNS!
Had to watch her leave out of the window, guess that's why they call it window pain
If you want an actual good "Sims" makeup palette, the Trixie x Juno palette had a lot of Sims inspiration, even has shades named after bonehilda, the grim reaper, and joy despret (idk if she's canon or junos original creation but she's a sim)
I had no clue Juno made a Sims eyeshadow palette 😱
the Desprets are sort of canonical, they're part of the like background Sims of Sims 2 but they also show up in some names. Like in the Apartment Life expansion there's an apartment complex named "Despret something something"
The last 4 people I've talked to who still plays sims as adults, all play sims 3 or sims 2.
Maybe like 25 and under can't handle the terrible graphics and dated audio, but anyone who grew up with sims and casually plays (not mods and such) just casually got the old ones again.
Where are my fellow house builders at? I don’t even play this game, I just live out my architectural dreams lol
I love how much effort Izzy puts into her makeup and hair for these videos. It shows how creative and thoughtful she is. Those little details make the videos stand out so much.
fer sure, i love the little diamond they have for this vid in particular 🤍
She reminds me of contrapoints with the cool and unique makeup and hair!😊
Just a heads up, I think Izzy uses they/them pronouns!💖
@@luckyuwus she uses both they/them and she/her
@@arrasamonk but they/them are first on their twitter, meaning they are more of the main ones than she/her
For anyone thinking of getting the sims 4 or any of the packs- don't.
Pirating may be illegal, but it's the best option when it comes to the sims 4
The base game is free, now.
@@Nikki_the_G i hate when they make paid games free thats so unfair to the people who bought it for £20 😡
@@Wandasolosurfavs???
@@Wandasolosurfavs you don't even get refunded u think
@@yuzurihaktk Where did i stutter?
some time last year, i decided to play the sims 4 for the first time as most of my life i've only ever played 2 and 3, and honestly, all it did was make me go back to the previous ones 💀 not that it's like BAD but it just lacked what the others had
Honestly what bothers me is that the fans complain constantly to the point it gets ANNOYING but then... they still buy everything. How do they expect to be taken seriously? I've been playing since The Sims 1 and it's a huge part of my childhood but it's still just a game. I just don't understand why they keep giving them money if they hate it so much.