Really helpful video. Nice work, man! I didn't have a fork seal driver, or a 36mm socket. But, the old fork seal set upside down on top of the new seal worked great for tapping it down with a mallet.
Good video thanks! I modified the zip tie trick by using two zips one mini for wrapping both the rod and a larger tie unzipped under the nut the spacer slides over both and just pull the larger tie its much more compact that way.
Nice shed. I built one just like it for my bike. Blew up the motor and bought a new bike while I rebuild that one. Now I have to work on the other one outside on the carport again. Lol.
About ready to do my 02 GSXR. They were originally done by RACETECH and all I have done over the years is change fluid every 4 track weekend's. I am hoping when I get into them that they are this style without the metal bush on the upper part of the lower fork tube. Looks like such a easier dis/reassembly. Lol. As far as the spring compressor I made a similar one after looking at the cost of the ones they sell. Great video. Btw, my winter shop is similar to yours with a propane space heater and working with outside temps in the single digits.
Hello Joshua. I appreciate your video. I decided to take my Forks into a local shop instead of doing them myself. When I got them back I could hear fluid sloshing inside when I turn my forks upside down to carry them. I was under the impression that hydraulics systems don't typically allow for sloshing and should be air-tight. Is there anything I should be worried about? What are the pitfalls I can expect if my repair shop didn't bleed my shocks just right, or not add enough oil?
Scrolling thru to see what kind of oil that was, i do recognize the brand, just not exactly sure what grade one should use. So also, are both forks identical make up, spring and all that?
Good video! Have you ever tried replacing the fork bushings? I recently bought an all balls kit for my gsxr and it came with new fork bushings but I'm not 100% sure about how to go about replacing them. Apparently they're "captive bushings" inside of the outer fork tube
Thanks for the vid. Is there a reason you couldn't just measure in the oil using the correct amount? And where did you get the spec for the oil height in the fork tube? Thanks
Hope it helped ya! I actually got it from a guy at the track as far as levels. You'd think you could just put a set amount of fluid, but for some reason, they do it this way.
Just did a set off an 06 1000 , removed btm bolt , slider came right out of outer tube , popped out dust seal , removed snap ring , popped out oil seal , reinstalled new seals and clip , slid slider back in , locktited and torqued btm bolt , unscrewed cap from top of outer tube , filled with fluid , tightened cap , done. Never had to touch spacer or compress spring , maybe one your working on if different ?
thanks for video.. i have recently changed my forks seals i didnt have nothing to mesure the oil so you said that each fork should take around 414ml around but i have put like 450ml .. sems like is leaking but verry little. sorry my English, why is still leaking??? forks seals are new
I believe the forks are a different set, but the process would be the same. There are many ways to make a spring compression tool. Alot of creative people have come up with some cool ideas. Google "Fork spring compressor tool". You just need to be able to pinch the spacer and pull it down.
I believe the cap was not set correctly. The jam nut was not all the way down on the rod when you set the cap. The cap must be set until it doesn't turn anymore then you bring the jam nut to the cap and tighten it. If you don't do that then you will not have the full factory range of settings. I would double check that if I were you. Dave Moss tuning has some really detailed vids on that.
Really useful tip. I spent a day surfing this topic to find this comment. I did the same mistake and couldn't figure out where problem is. I got only 2 full turns of range on rebound screw which is surely way out of spec.
1970PMD I believe that’s not entirely accurate either how you explain it. What you do is turn the rebound adjuster fully soft, then before fitting the rebound adjuster you turn it clockwise the amount of turns determined by the factory, which for these forks is 3.5 turns. You then screw it in until it won’t turn any more. Then you bring the jam nut up to meet it. Then you double check whether it goes 3.5 turns to fully soft and then 3.5 turns to fully hard.
@@KeyserSoze5421 you might be right or wrong I am not an expert as Dave Moss surely is. The way I understand it looking at David Moss's vids, is the way I describe it above. I am certain different manufacturers may do it differently. If I recall you must bring the cap to the full bottom position, then bring jam nut up to cap. As far as the rebound adjuster I would have to revisit his vid, but then again depends on manufacturer? Good point.
1970PMD the jam nut doesn’t determine how far the rebound adjuster comes down the rod, if you turn the jam but all the way to the bottom the distance the rebound adjuster comes down is dependant on how many turns you have turned it clockwise, I know this for a fact as I’ve literally just rebuilt the same forks. Then you bring the jam but back up to meet the rebound adjuster and lightly snug them up then double check that you can get the full range of adjustment.
+ali baba Thanks. I believe I got some Bel Rey. 10W is equivalent to SS-05 as I've been told for Suzuki GSXR. Online might be your best option, but a couple liters will last you a long time.
@@JoshuaHambyRacing yes sir. After watching your video, I suspect the top cap may be put together wrong?? Because I can't seem to get back to the factory suspension settings. I tried putting the suspension settings back to stock per the manual on this bike, and when I turned the rebound adjustment screw all the way to the right, it would recess past the preload adjuster, and I'd get fork oil coming FROM where the rebound screw is recessed.
14:29 When I bleed the cartridge, my fork oil only comes out when I pull the inner rod out and NOT when pushing it back in. What's going on? The problem does not occur on my other fork cartridge.
+Eduardo Iglesias It's kind of hard to explain, but a simple concept. Google fork spring compression tool and check out the images. Alot of people are creative. This one, pretty much is a nut, welded on a threaded rod with an inner tube that slides in an outer tube. A nut is welded to the top of the outer tube as well, so when it spins, it moves in and out. And a pincher for the fork's inner tube is attached to the compression tool outer tube. Hard to explain it. Maybe I'll load a video.
I know this video is old. but is the only good oneon this model of fork. i have only one question. The manual says 107mm clearance. why did you do 140mm. I'm sure there is a good reason. great video. thank you so much.
Thanks for the comment. Honestly don't remember why I put that amount. There was some other reference I was going by, but I can't quite remember. Worked well tho
@@JoshuaHambyRacing thanks for your reply, it's good to know it worked fine. i like how mine feels I have no idea it it was serviced before and altered or if it's factory, I'm tempted to measure the clearance on the one that isn't leaking to have an idea. otherwise, I will go factory to start and take it from there. Thank you so much for the great video and reply.
They look like they'd be the same if its around the same year. If you have the manual, it should note the amount of fluid. But by the looks, its the same.
The spring has to be compressed, but there are many ways to get it done. Google suspension compression tool and many people have come up with easy ways to do it.
Idk what the hell mine won't stop leaking right fork leaking after replacing seals twice what is the deal with these forks left one is fine I used these seals was leaking so I bought oem still leaking on the right fork
Could be the fork tube is pitted and debris or yiur bushings are wore out snd also need to be replaced. The bushings stop the fork from having excessive play which can make the seals leak prematurely
Say Man, you should do A VIDEO ON HOW YOU MADE THE SPRING COMPRESSOR TOOL!!!!!!!......... I'm sure said potential video could be A BIG HIT FOR YOU!!!........ Out of all the videos that I've seen about doing a fork oil change, I never saw a COOLER, MORE BITCHIN' SELF MADE TOOL THAN YOURS!!!.... So please MAKE A NEW VIDEO ON PARTS AND METHOD OF FABRICATING SAID TOOL...... Thanks Man..........
You shouldn’t use metal prying on your aluminum tubing chances are you’re going to mar it up.. if you have to use an old rubber tube. Use the old seal to push the new one in as well no need for heating the tube some ppl have gotten them to hot and ruin the seals and or tube..
I don’t know who enjoy more!! Dad working with son or son working with papá I love everything about this video :-)
Really helpful video. Nice work, man!
I didn't have a fork seal driver, or a 36mm socket. But, the old fork seal set upside down on top of the new seal worked great for tapping it down with a mallet.
Awesome video man! Definitely debating taking mine to a shop
Hey man, I really don't ever comment on youtube videos, but this one was great. very helpful. just redid my forks, thanks for the help!
Fantastic! So glad it helped!
Thank you for the video. It helped me to rebuild.
I love the tools you made that’s legit
Good video thanks! I modified the zip tie trick by using two zips one mini for wrapping both the rod and a larger tie unzipped under the nut the spacer slides over both and just pull the larger tie its much more compact that way.
Thank you much man!
Great video!
Saved me $$$$
+Tubergen MotorSports great to hear! Thanks!
dude this video is awesome! good job man
Thanks!
Really nice video. Much thanks!
Thanks for watching. Hope it helped.
Nice shed. I built one just like it for my bike. Blew up the motor and bought a new bike while I rebuild that one. Now I have to work on the other one outside on the carport again. Lol.
Ah nice. I need to get another one. Right now I have a car project. Putting a 302 in a 300ZX.
About ready to do my 02 GSXR. They were originally done by RACETECH and all I have done over the years is change fluid every 4 track weekend's. I am hoping when I get into them that they are this style without the metal bush on the upper part of the lower fork tube. Looks like such a easier dis/reassembly. Lol. As far as the spring compressor I made a similar one after looking at the cost of the ones they sell. Great video. Btw, my winter shop is similar to yours with a propane space heater and working with outside temps in the single digits.
+mike mears great, I hope the job is easy for ya. Yea I looked at buying the compression tool as well, figured I'd make one.
Excellent video
+System Administrator thanks a lot. Hope it helped.
brilliant video my friend
Thanks :)
This is good Man! Make k=me another video whan you figure out how to rebuild them!
Thanks nice job!!!
Great vid. Thx for that. I was thinking that is hard to do this but after that vid is not:)
I'm glad it helped. It will definitely save you some money buy DIY.
@@JoshuaHambyRacing Sure. If you have those special tools.
The manual calls for 110mm on the oil height. Why did you do 140mm?
Hello Joshua. I appreciate your video. I decided to take my Forks into a local shop instead of doing them myself. When I got them back I could hear fluid sloshing inside when I turn my forks upside down to carry them. I was under the impression that hydraulics systems don't typically allow for sloshing and should be air-tight. Is there anything I should be worried about? What are the pitfalls I can expect if my repair shop didn't bleed my shocks just right, or not add enough oil?
Scrolling thru to see what kind of oil that was, i do recognize the brand, just not exactly sure what grade one should use.
So also, are both forks identical make up, spring and all that?
Good video! Have you ever tried replacing the fork bushings? I recently bought an all balls kit for my gsxr and it came with new fork bushings but I'm not 100% sure about how to go about replacing them. Apparently they're "captive bushings" inside of the outer fork tube
nice work man
Thanks! Hope it helped. 🙏
ok cool. thx for checking. good video btw
I appreciate it. trying to get the channel rolling
Why set the rebound damping to the softest? What is the reason?
Could you tell me how much oil is in each bottle?please,thank
Are the 04 600 forks the same to rebuild?
good video ty
No prob! Thanks for watching
good stuff, do u know how much fluid should be in a 2008 gsxr1000 fork??
I just reread that. I think it's the same fluid for both
Thanks for the vid. Is there a reason you couldn't just measure in the oil using the correct amount? And where did you get the spec for the oil height in the fork tube? Thanks
Hope it helped ya! I actually got it from a guy at the track as far as levels. You'd think you could just put a set amount of fluid, but for some reason, they do it this way.
Thanks nice job....👏👏👏👏🔩🔧⚙️
Just did a set off an 06 1000 , removed btm bolt , slider came right out of outer tube , popped out dust seal , removed snap ring , popped out oil seal , reinstalled new seals and clip , slid slider back in , locktited and torqued btm bolt , unscrewed cap from top of outer tube , filled with fluid , tightened cap , done. Never had to touch spacer or compress spring , maybe one your working on if different ?
B Hood hmm possibly a different design.
tx for vidio! I have a 2005 gsxr 600 and really need to know how much per fork leg and what type of oil?
Check the manual for that specific year, I'm not sure. I would assume its the same measurements as the video here. Thanks for watching!
Great video dude! i have a k6 gixxer 600 could you please tell me the dimmensions of fork seals
+Toni Prela 2006 thru 2010 are the same. Try a site like Sportbiketrackgear.com and input the year
Thanks
Thank you
Michael Downs no problem at all. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for this awesome vid! Possible to do this without the custom fork compressor tool?
Thanks for the comment! It may be hard, but possible I'd say. Those springs are dangerous! lol
thanks for video.. i have recently changed my forks seals i didnt have nothing to mesure the oil so you said that each fork should take around 414ml around but i have put like 450ml .. sems like is leaking but verry little. sorry my English, why is still leaking??? forks seals are new
damaged fork tubes or damaged seals when installing
Great, quick rebuild video
I can give you some metric wrenches.
what oil do you pour?
question do you know if i could use the proceed for gsxr 750 2005?
and can you tell me how did you made your Fork Spring Compressor Tool
I believe the forks are a different set, but the process would be the same. There are many ways to make a spring compression tool. Alot of creative people have come up with some cool ideas. Google "Fork spring compressor tool". You just need to be able to pinch the spacer and pull it down.
Rahhhh buddy. Nice beanie :)
Mitch Backer rrrrr
What unit
Patrick O'Connor sorry just seeing this. HMLA 169
Good video lern a lot thanks!!! But camera is to shaky and bothers but good info!!
This is the same concept for the k5 right? I need to rebuild a set for my 2005
I believe so, but not 100% on the year.
Do you have a video of making the spring compressor?
I dont, sorry. I'd make one if I still had it
Jesus I love working on bikes and cars but in either just buying new Ohlins or going to the mechanics lol
I believe the cap was not set correctly. The jam nut was not all the way down on the rod when you set the cap. The cap must be set until it doesn't turn anymore then you bring the jam nut to the cap and tighten it. If you don't do that then you will not have the full factory range of settings. I would double check that if I were you. Dave Moss tuning has some really detailed vids on that.
Really useful tip. I spent a day surfing this topic to find this comment. I did the same mistake and couldn't figure out where problem is. I got only 2 full turns of range on rebound screw which is surely way out of spec.
By the way the great Haynes doesn't say this and that's a shame.
1970PMD I believe that’s not entirely accurate either how you explain it. What you do is turn the rebound adjuster fully soft, then before fitting the rebound adjuster you turn it clockwise the amount of turns determined by the factory, which for these forks is 3.5 turns. You then screw it in until it won’t turn any more. Then you bring the jam nut up to meet it. Then you double check whether it goes 3.5 turns to fully soft and then 3.5 turns to fully hard.
@@KeyserSoze5421 you might be right or wrong I am not an expert as Dave Moss surely is. The way I understand it looking at David Moss's vids, is the way I describe it above. I am certain different manufacturers may do it differently. If I recall you must bring the cap to the full bottom position, then bring jam nut up to cap. As far as the rebound adjuster I would have to revisit his vid, but then again depends on manufacturer? Good point.
1970PMD the jam nut doesn’t determine how far the rebound adjuster comes down the rod, if you turn the jam but all the way to the bottom the distance the rebound adjuster comes down is dependant on how many turns you have turned it clockwise, I know this for a fact as I’ve literally just rebuilt the same forks. Then you bring the jam but back up to meet the rebound adjuster and lightly snug them up then double check that you can get the full range of adjustment.
Joshua Hamby Racing hey bro how did you make that compression tool? I’m trying to replace my fork seals but I don’t have anything to compress them
Hey, yea made that tool. Had to to get that thing squeezed.
Lol I was asking how you made it but alright 💀
great video, much appreciate it. what kind of oil should it get?
first time doing this...don't want to get rape by the shops. thanks
+ali baba Thanks. I believe I got some Bel Rey. 10W is equivalent to SS-05 as I've been told for Suzuki GSXR. Online might be your best option, but a couple liters will last you a long time.
@Joshua Hamby Racing
what does it mean when oil leaking out from the preload adjustment at the top of the fork?
Leaking?
@@JoshuaHambyRacing yes sir. After watching your video, I suspect the top cap may be put together wrong?? Because I can't seem to get back to the factory suspension settings.
I tried putting the suspension settings back to stock per the manual on this bike, and when I turned the rebound adjustment screw all the way to the right, it would recess past the preload adjuster, and I'd get fork oil coming FROM where the rebound screw is recessed.
It's possible. I'm not sure what thatd be.
@@JoshuaHambyRacing thanks for your replies. either way your video is super helpful, if only I had the tools.
Sure thing. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Good luck with it!
14:29 When I bleed the cartridge, my fork oil only comes out when I pull the inner rod out and NOT when pushing it back in. What's going on? The problem does not occur on my other fork cartridge.
Sorry I've never heard of that before. Idk what would cause it.
very helpfull video.. can i know each fork how much ML of fork oil needed?? sorry for dump question
Suzuki GSXR600 K6 2006:
Capacity (each leg): 413 ml (14/14.5 US/lmp oz)
Fork oil level: 107 mm (4.21 in)
im using k8 GSXR600 2008 so it same
I to need one of those fork compression tool ..damn!
It's a pretty easy build.
You have a how to?
Unfortunately, I don't. In time, I could make one tho. I'm away at the moment.
How bout it Joshua, make a quick video bro ✊
Subscribed. These are going on my SV 👍
Joshua Hamby Racing hey bro how did you make that compression tool? I’m trying to replace my fork seals but I don’t have anything to compress them.
How did you make that tool to compress the forks.. Anything helps thanks
+Eduardo Iglesias It's kind of hard to explain, but a simple concept. Google fork spring compression tool and check out the images. Alot of people are creative. This one, pretty much is a nut, welded on a threaded rod with an inner tube that slides in an outer tube. A nut is welded to the top of the outer tube as well, so when it spins, it moves in and out. And a pincher for the fork's inner tube is attached to the compression tool outer tube. Hard to explain it. Maybe I'll load a video.
+Joshua Hamby Racing yeah it's a little confusing a video would help a lot thanks for you time
Sure thing
👍💪
I know this video is old. but is the only good oneon this model of fork. i have only one question. The manual says 107mm clearance. why did you do 140mm. I'm sure there is a good reason. great video. thank you so much.
Thanks for the comment. Honestly don't remember why I put that amount. There was some other reference I was going by, but I can't quite remember. Worked well tho
@@JoshuaHambyRacing thanks for your reply, it's good to know it worked fine. i like how mine feels I have no idea it it was serviced before and altered or if it's factory, I'm tempted to measure the clearance on the one that isn't leaking to have an idea. otherwise, I will go factory to start and take it from there. Thank you so much for the great video and reply.
what size of fork tupe for gsxr 600 2018
Not sure for that year.
Will a hayabusa seals be similar? Same amount of fluid?
They look like they'd be the same if its around the same year. If you
have the manual, it should note the amount of fluid. But by the looks,
its the same.
Thank you! Also would there be an alternative to the spring compression tool?
The spring has to be compressed, but there are many ways to get it done. Google suspension compression tool and many people have come up with easy ways to do it.
Thanks for the info. Out of focus camera shots gave me a headache lol
Yea I know. It was manual focus and he didnt quite know where I was going.
What is the size of the seals for a gsxr 600 2007?
I'm not sure. Its been quite a while
Do u know if a2006 750 fork fits a 2005 1000
I'm not sure about that one. Given the weight difference, I'd say maybe not.
That noise is sexy
Idk what the hell mine won't stop leaking right fork leaking after replacing seals twice what is the deal with these forks left one is fine I used these seals was leaking so I bought oem still leaking on the right fork
Has the fork been in a crash? Maybe it's warped?
Could be the fork tube is pitted and debris or yiur bushings are wore out snd also need to be replaced. The bushings stop the fork from having excessive play which can make the seals leak prematurely
Check the bushings next time!
Related to a Lee Hamby, by any chance?
I dont think so. Never know.
what oil does it carry? amigo
SAE 2,5W Fork Oil
How big is that shed ?
Maybe 12x8. Not very big lol
Say Man, you should do A VIDEO ON HOW YOU MADE THE SPRING COMPRESSOR TOOL!!!!!!!......... I'm sure said potential video could be A BIG HIT FOR YOU!!!........ Out of all the videos that I've seen about doing a fork oil change, I never saw a COOLER, MORE BITCHIN' SELF MADE TOOL THAN YOURS!!!.... So please MAKE A NEW VIDEO ON PARTS AND METHOD OF FABRICATING SAID TOOL...... Thanks Man..........
Hey man, that's a good idea. I'd have to dig that thing up, and maybe make new one showing. I just may get that one made! Thanks for the suggestion.
quick question, what size bolts on the tool u used to hold the spacer in?
I wish I could remember. You could use any sizable bold tho. We just theaded it into a plate and carved the tips.
Would this work for 1993 gxsr 600?
I don't think the measurements are the same for the forks.
I meant the process in the video - is it the same for 1990's GXSR?
Exactly how long did this take?
Maybe an hour
You shouldn’t use metal prying on your aluminum tubing chances are you’re going to mar it up.. if you have to use an old rubber tube. Use the old seal to push the new one in as well no need for heating the tube some ppl have gotten them to hot and ruin the seals and or tube..
I take it there is no real difference between 06-10 and an 04 like mine??
Dustin Ament I wish I could tell ya. I believe it's different suspension tho.
what fork oil should i use? 75kg rider. riding temps 25-35 degree celsius, riding hard on weekends.. ?? stock suspension GSXR 600 k7
I've forgotten the brand I used. It's been a while.
He looks like the guy from parks and recreation
+Jonny Long which one?
Andy!
heit man!!! Number of forks please!!!
nothing worse than moist residue
Thanks