The Most Frustrating Gimmick In Pop Music
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2023
- i LOVE sampling! and interpolation!! i think they are very fun elements to making music!! but when its done in this way it just feels like a money grab lol
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this is the "live action movie adaptation" for the music world
It's just shitty remakes and reboots that nobody remembers over the original
It has the same energy as fanart made by 12 year olds, only it's being produced and marketed by professionals... It's a very confusing experience
True, without a doubt. All "cinematic glamour" but not worth to the ear.
@SusNation90 what would you post?
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interpolation can be fun and playful but this is downright lazy. it’s almost like the disney remakes. all they do is remind of the better thing you could be enjoying instead
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking
idk cuz like some r really good and better than the original like fantasy but others r just so lazy
@@ville__yo mama
@@ville__you fuckin wish 🤣
Honestly I'd rather we see more interpolation from more out-there source material. It would be really funny if, say, we saw interpolations of Touhou music in pop tracks.
David Guetta went from making some of the best dance music of the early 2000s, to making some of the least creative, most annoying slop the genre has ever seen in its entire existence. He really devolved as an artist overtime
All his recent songs and remixes sound exactly the same
Calvin Harris fell into the same trap. I often say David Harris or Calvin Guetta because they haven’t made interesting music… ever
… I think
@@jakeemchism7257 They used to have interesting stuff tbf
My boss listens to this genre of music and it seems like a good portion of the songs follow the exact same melody but with a different phrase said over and over and over. I used to listen to electronic music growing up. The genre doesn't make me feel the way it used to.
But didn't David Guetta end racism?
The Megan Trainor "bum bum bum" mr sandman in "i am your mother" made me want to throw my phone in the trash and never come back.
no boomerang phone 😔
I didn’t enjoy that either
megan trainor's entire gimmick is she writes pop songs like they're jingles. it's smart because it gets stuck in people's heads and makes her a lot of money (plus it's always the most ad friendly songwriting). saccharine but leaves a bad taste in your mouth. but got to give her props for her business instincts
@@AirborneAshesin particular she uses like 50's era doo wop style progressions with lots of trumpet and saxophone to evoke that music and sort of combine doo wop with early jazz. I honestly generally like her music because it's really catchy but then I just listen to actual older music instead of her imitation of it
that made me so goddamn angry
Someone on Twitter said that a lot of these interpolations sound like they’re trying to be Weird Al parodies, and now I can’t stop hearing it.
They're trying and failing, none of it in a good way
Don't disrespect Al Yankovic with this garbage
the difference between Weird Al and Bebe Rexha is that Weird Al is actually a good artist
zing!
@@anzahanifathallah bazigha
@@Quesoquantumzoinks
There's an even worse feeling when a rap song sounds really good, the verses are incredible and the beat slaps, and then the chorus is a nursery rhyme interpolation.
callout to specifically eminem - offended
nas almost did this with street dreams, the whole song is so good and the chorus almost ruins it imo
Rae Sremmurd - Community Dick
It can be done well but most of the examples I think of come from the 80s and are basically dancehall rhymes over hiphop beats which yknow makes it a whole different thing. Cutty Ranks and early Boogie Down Production comes to mind.
This reminds of that Bo burnham bit (the ba ba blacksheep one)
speaking of barbie…. ava max’s “im not your barbie girl im living in my own world” PISSES me off. it sounds so bad. by contrast i think the nicki and ice spice “barbie world” is fun. it’s a sample, not a mockery. you can tell they respect the source material. same with speed drive
Barbie world is drill rap type song and drill is known for having a high pitched sample in the background. Pretty much the basics
Ava Max's song is so annoying. Nicki and Ice made something fun and creative using the rhythm instead of the rhyme scheme in a way I really like. Ava Max did nothing with it and just changed the lyrics to something dumb, the tone of the lyrics she wrote just make it worse considering how the original song is peppy and fun
Also the original barbie girl is already a social critique in a way, the lyrics aren't kid friendly and I feel like Ava Max just didn't listen in closely and did whatever she thought was edgy
@@piper2257Also the whole “you can’t touch my body unless I say so” is such a stupid line to add in a twist on the OG because the OG already made it clear that her whole deal with this guy was fully consensual. The original literally went “you can touch me there” as in giving him permission, or asking him to do things. No consent issues exist here. Unless the point is her wanting to say “you can’t rape me” or something and it’s like… no shit… this isn’t a real commentary on anything. It’s almost like saying “you can’t murder me” and thinking you just made some interesting point on something.
Yeah I don’t like Avamax and I can count on one hand the amount of feminist pop I actually liked, or even feminist music at all that I liked and wasn’t riot girl-ish in nature. (Destroy boys deserves to be much more famous than avamax honestly.)
Memento mori
I work at a place that uses a radio station where the I'm Blue interpolation gets played way too many times (like once a day) and I CANNOT stand it anymore, this phenomenon is so annoying
The only good thing about that song is people putting the song over videos of them laying in bed during new years instead of partying
Me too it's driving me fuckign insane
Which is a shame because the original lowkey slaps but all these remixes ruin it for me
I feel it’s in my soul! I’m hearing it in my sleep at this point
That shit plays like twice an hour at my retail job it drives me fucking nuts
Nothing is worse then thinking you are hearing Blue by Eiffel 65 only for it to turn into some American party girl song.
Like they turned our fun little weird roller rink song into a stupid 2010 raver song.
blue by eiffel 65 has so much charm and fun and weirdness to it while the new one is just so goddamn generic. why.
Same when you think you're listening to Take on Me or You spin me right Round and it's just pitbull or Bebe rhexa EVERY TIME
@@nellobartooh pls don't tell me someone messed with Take On Me
Who do I gotta fight to protect Morten Harket's honour?
Thinking you're about to listen to one of the best mainstream rap songs of all time, only for it to turn into just 'Thank You' by Dido.
Speed Drive by Charli XCX is a GOOD example of this imo. like she uses the "oh mickey you're so fine" rhyme but it's so brief and refreshed that it becomes its own thing, while still making the listener go like "oh i know this one" ! idk if that made sense
that and the song itself is basically nothing about mickey so it’s just a sample and not like a parody
i love that song so much. and esp with the theme of the barbie movie it definitely comes across as like a respectful and endearing nod to hey mickey that hypes toni basil up
i LOVE that fucking song it’s such a good nod to the original bc IT DOESNT RELY ON THE NOSTALGIA !!
how i feel about first class by jack harlow... it has the singing out of the "glamorous" but is a completely different song
Same with Endless Fashion by lil Uzi Vert bc i realized it’s a im blue remake on the third listen lol
I think it's more noticable now because it's finally tapping into OUR nostalgia so we know this stuff from our childhood.
Thank you, yes!! Right Round was literally years ago but no one in our age group ever acknowledged it was an interpretation (bc You Spin Me was from the 80s). This has been going on for forever, people are only just now acknowledging it bc its music from our childhood.
@@jenkinsjrjenkins legit!
My favourite example is the song 'Something good' by Utah Saints it has been remixed twice over from the 90's to the 2000's and the backing beat and vocal hook of "ooo I just know that something good is gonna happen" comes from a popular song from the 80's by Kate Bush called Cloudbusting.
A whole journey from 1985 to 2008 😂
@@jenkinsjrjenkinswhen I found out right round was a spin on the original song I was like “oh, that’s so cool!” But none of these recent songs give me that same feeling
100%. a huge proportion of Jason Derulo's biggest hits are samples (watcha say, dont wanna go home.. probably more) that I had no idea were samples when i was vibing with them at the age of 12, but these are things my parents would have recognized. Same thing in the 70s: Eric carmen's all by myself samples rachmaninoff's piano concerto number 2 HEAVILY which is something my dad wouldn't have noticed hearing it as a kid, but HIS dad would.
This is literally the process of folk music, but with payouts to the estates of dead artists because of copyright law.
You ever wondered why so many old songs have the same melody? Same-same. Someone came up with a cool melody and then people fucked around with it.
With tv it's often the networks. Saw a tweet someone was like "congrats ig on getting this thing made but why aren't you making new shit." And the writer replied, "I pitched 16 original ideas to Netflix and they were all rejected."
that was the powerpuff girls writer for context
This only stands to show that it's not the artists and writers faults that this stuff is happening, it's the big companies who are scared of taking chances and killing artists. This is one of the #1 reasons, from a consumer's perspective, on why we need to supports writers during their strike.
thats depressing
@@misspoppypor we can bring back guillotines for nostalgia's sake, since the corporations can only focus on making money rather than something good 👍
This was Craig McCracken, speaking specifically about Netflix. He announced a Powerpuff Girls reboot, someone asked him why he'd revisit them after so long and he said the thing about 16 rejected pitches.
Like here's the thing, it's not just networks - it's companies like Netflix.
Yeah people have been doing this a while, but Nicki really showed everyone with anaconda how big they can get and it feels like every year since the amount of songs that use this equation doubles every year
anaconda is from another song???
@@renatal.129 yep! baby got back by sir mix a lot !
Kanye originally popularized it but the way he did was tasteful and creative. Examples: Stronger, Through the Wire, and etc.
@@colvynharris9138 I feel like with Kanye he took less massive songs and put his own twist on it with his unique production, whereas now I feel like its just tasteless 'sampling' where artists take a massive song from a few decades earlier and make it modern
@@dovelynight WHAT?? HOW DID I NEVER NOTICED IT I USED TO DANCE BABY GOT BACK 24/7 ON DANCE CENTRAL 2.
Thank you for talking about this Dev. It feels like some artists recently are trying to feed off the popularity of original, popular tracks. I wouldn’t even call it sampling, its just stealing
I mean, it’s still sampling sometimes, like Baby Tate’s version of Hey Mickey, or Gym Class Heroes’s version of Cupid’s Chokehold/Breakfast in America, even Kanye’s version of Harder Better Faster Stronger, like there are definitely looser versions of sampling, like for the munster’s theme in Uma Thurman by Fall Out Boy or the sample from Toms Diner that they used in Centuries, but sampling has always walked that line, ultimately it comes to what they add to it, that said, it’s definitely a quicker and easier way to push out a guaranteed popular song, and it makes the song feel kinda lazy
How do you feel about tracks like "Helter Stupid" by Negativland?
@@MayvaAva Kanye's Stronger doesn't actually work in this context because it's literally a collab between Kanye and Daft Punk. Basically Daft Punk remixed their own song with Kanye for his album
@@lukeshioshio I remember that happening very differently, with Kanye himself calling it sampling, and his producer at First being concerned with sampling what was at the time a recent song, but I don’t like Kanye enough to know every little aspect of his lore so u could also be right
@@MayvaAva Kanye worked on the song with Daft Punk if my memory is right. Could've started as a sample but it turned into a collab
That “I’m good” song has been tormenting my life
ahh same if i hear it one more time!!!!!!!!!
@@fwurbzi will go insane istg it’s so AWFUL!!!!!!! GGRAAAHHHHHHHHH
It feels like a kids bop song that didn't wanna be offensive to colorblind people
All I would listen to a few years ago was the original I’m blue song and then I heard this and it makes me want to RIP MY BRAIN OUT
@@fwurbz lmaoo 💀I love your pfp!!🤭
i think that making a tv show where the character are babies is very strange. total drama rama is the best example of this.
So we gonna act like Rugrats ain’t a bop?
@@aliceviens7they started off as babies tho so it’s not the same
Muppets babies were the start of this iirc
At least the reboot is good & back to the original style 😭
Fr and whats so annoying is that whenever I try to say total drama island, I say total drama rama because it rolls of the tongue better 😭
Coi Leray's song on the Spiderverse soundtrack was so damn good. She's clearly very talented without just having to interpolate 90s songs
Her song was really good
the album is incredible, even these interpolated tracks are fun even though it’s too cliche atp, but where she shines are her original songs, you can see how much more at ease she feels with it
Coi is so good! I love one song that she’s featured on, i think it’s called “happy fools”
Idk about "very talented" lol, but she's very hardworking I'll give her that
@@Mirrored33oh yeah, that one she did on TXT's album
An example of this being used RIGHT is Dua Lipa’s physical. She sampled the OG but changed the tempo and other aspects of the song and now it’s my favorite song of all time.
Also Melanie Martinez’s “Pity Party” does the same where she takes the main line “it’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to” and changed the rest of the song. Not her best song but at least she did a good job referencing an old classic and making it her own
@@raicrush yesss I thought melanie did such a good and unique job with it!
Yessssss I love Physical and Dua definitely makes it her own
Same with her song "Love Again", I can't recall what the sample actually is, but I knew it was a sample from the jump but it still felt so brand new and refreshing.
@@jewelxiat Yup exactly
coi leray is a menace when it comes to this. i know you mentioned like 3 songs off her album but theres actually 8/16 songs on there that do this. she interpolated rich girl by darl hall & john oates, pump up the jam by technotronic, the message by grandmaster flash, its my party by lesley gore, lets get loud by jennifer lopez, technologic by daft punk, show me love by robin s, and its a mans world by james brown
jesus christ girl. oh my lord... can she like..... not.
I feel like the Girls is Players Too song was good, a lot of songs sample the message, it's a nice beat. The same way people sample the "she's homeless" beat.
But the Bitch Girl and It's My Body ones just feel like parodies
And she’s so talented too if you listen to her on the spiderverse soundtrack with self love she’s amazing on that track there’s sm potential with her music
@@leix7 "My Body" feels SO lazy and meaningless, like it's being shocking just to be shocking and nothing else😭
Coi is basically a remix album at this point lol
The thing about 7 Rings is that Ari ended up having to give like 90% of the royalties to the original writers, but she really did just want to use that song from Sound of Music (she's known for being a Theatre Kid) so she did it anyway. So much more respectable than I'm Good and all this other nonsense.
i think this is why i hated flowers when it came out. besides being overplayed, it’s not really that bad of a song and imo it’s actually an example of this trope done well. i think i’m just so tired of this trope that i immediately hated it
Not only was flowers overplayed, but brunos song was also so overplayed that it does piss me off everytime I hear it. Until it gets going, then I'm vibing. But it's just the thought of it, yknow?
Wait what's the original of that
@@freyathewolf when I was your man by Bruno mars
This reminds me of the Lana Del Rey vs Radiohead lawsuit over her song Get Free that had the same-ish chord progression as Creep. How can Lana get sued for something that is generally original but these artists can straight up steal and desicrate an entire melody and never get hit for it at all?
The only way they aren't getting hit with a lawsuit would be if they properly credit the original and give a percentage of the money to them.
Crediting and paying
They're actually clearing the samples because they know that the interpolations will make them hella money lol
Oh my god, suing over a chord progression is unhinged
Sampling is allowed when credit is given
Edit: by credit I meant paying the og artist
Yes, I have noticed it. It’s not just happening in the music industry though. It’s happening in all major arts and entertainment forms right now. So many movies that are just reboots. So many things that are just a live action version of the original. I’m not exactly sure why this is happening in the entertainment sphere right now, but if I know anything about history, that means that there is going to be a change, and a breakthrough soon within the next few decades or so, in regards to how entertainment is consumed. I really wish it would stop though, I’m tired of them ruining all of my favorite original things!
someone said it!! you phrased it better than i ever could. like is creativity really that dead that NOBODY wants to create or watch something new?? it annoys me so much. i find people just dragging things in media to the ground
@@acesupyoursleeve_It’s because when you boil it down, a lot of music and general media is produced by maybe 8 to 10 different companies maximum. Anything else is generally considered too small to be worth putting in mainstream radio or television, so these companies control what comes out. These reboots and rehashes aren’t just a sign of no creativity, but actually a sign of a larger problem: No respect for the artists. The actual musicians, artists, actors, and most importantly, the writers are being left to the wolves in the name of profit. They don’t want to take a chance on something new because it would mean paying an actual author what they’re worth, and all these companies are worried about is how much money it will make them. In their eyes, putting out a worse product with a guaranteed profit is better than putting out something objectively good that will stand the test of time. It’s only going to get worse (for Hollywood especially) as long as the strikes continue- As it should. There will be no good media without proper compensation for the people making it.
People got bored and ran out of ideas
We all died in 2012 and the matrix is running out of new material to keep us from realising
/j in case anyone suffers from paranoia or smth idk
I'm SO glad I'm not the only person feeling this way. I'm so tired of sampling being so lazy and popular
sampling can be really amazing when done right. the entirety of discovery by daft punk is a proof of it, but yeah it has become pretty tiring to see it being used in such a lazy way
You should listen to "copyright strike my fucking nuts"
AVA MAX DOES THIS SO MUCH. I swear every song I’ve heard from her is like this
I'm a casual listener so I've never heard of this before, which song(s) has she done this with?
@@freakshit”Not Your Barbie Girl” (Barbie Girl by Aqua) and “Kings and Queens” (If You Were a Woman and I Was a Man by Bonnie Tyler)
@@addywaddy_ I've not listened to the first one but I love the second song and had no idea, ty for letting me know! I'll definitely be checking out the original
"Not your barbie girl" is the most stupid song i've ever heard but thats just my opinion
@@user-ui7fp7gl8uyou're right, it's just so bad 😭 Ava is talented but she is still just a parody of pop singers to me. Too artificial.
You have no idea how hard my heart sank when my niece said Eiffel 65's "Blue" was a remix of the David Guetta song....😭😭😭😭
Kick her.
The WHAT
Just show her which song came before. She probably doesn't know better because she heard the David Guetta version first. Had the same experience multiple times where I thought that a remix was the original because it was the first version I've heard :')
A good remix makes people think that it's the original.
Look at the remix of Major Lazer's Light It Up. It's so much more iconic and makes the original look like a crappy remix.
But I'm Blue Vs I'm Good is different, because they're both equally good songs in different ways. So people just think the one they heard first is the original. Like, my sister also thought the original was a remix of the remix.
Yes!!!!! As a filmmaker this reboot trend is SO exhausting!!! And it’s so evident that these companies could not care less about actual good storytelling
Right like give us something new
Honestly I was crushed when I heard I'm Good for the first time. Like I was so hyped when I thought the original song was coming back 💀
Me too. I was getting ready to sing along and then _that_ started, the disappointment was immense.
I cannot express my disappointment enough
I worked retail when it came out. Every day was HELL
Same, I started singing along and then was just like... I can't recall a time where I've felt more disappointed.
when devon lemons uploads i tend to run around my room squealing like a little chipmunk, of which i am, i tend to also jump up and down in glee until the soles of my cute little tootsies are red and scabby from overexursion
this is so real!
i screech as loud as i can and do backflips down the street!!
i tend to stop before my cute little tootsies are too banged and bruised, because i like to spend a few more minutes stomping like a baby rabbit in delight, so i need to preserve my puppy walkers
this is so me. I am this way. this is so me
when will dev acknowledge how FERAL we are for these videos
What your touching on is a huge problem in media as a whole. I don’t remember what director it was but somebody said something along the lines of “film companies need to (and can) afford a failure”. When they do these lil gimmicks it almost serves as a guaranteed amount of money.
I don’t like the show friends but everybody in that cast was nobodies before it came up. We don’t have that anymore instead it’s just the same archetypes of artists from 2016 and it hasn’t changed
EDIT: I’ve also heard stories from a lot of black writers in the industry as well who make really creative and original ideas. And their ideas end up getting warped and changed into being like preexisting successful media to ensure that it has a chance to profit.
also when they pay “homage” to a director or movie but just copy certain shots in a boring way. *ahem* doja’s new mv *ahem*
@@swordkitty I HATE that. At least with The Weeknd’s after hours he had good music to overshadow the whole “Yeah I watch scorsasee films how could you tell” aesthetic thing. But yeah that’s right there with lazy interpolations tbh
Stranger things was the probably the last piece of media to generate famous people from nobodies.
you're*
@@swordkitty what director is she borrowing from?
I completely agree! it feels like the emotional aspect of music and the overall connection between artist and art is fading with popular artists.
@@ville__193 comments on this channel only and you’re barely getting any money off that video
6:32 Even though I agree, I do think there are some exceptions in TV as well, for example, I’m super excited about the Scott Pilgrim anime coming to netflix with all the original cast and Edgar Wright as the executive producer. In that instance it does actually feel more like a passion project that has potential to be very successful, than just another cash grab reboot
I'm stoked for it too. I think this will work really well because it was originally a comic, so instead of just trying to be an extension/remake of an already successful movie, it's a new adaptation of the actual source material, and it's super fun to see comics animated. There's so much room for both screen adaptations to exist rather than it being, like you said, just a money grab 💜
(edited cuz I typed "stoned" instead of stoked 💀)
edgar being the executive producer isn't like the biggest win. they're usually pretty hands off and just financing but at most help with branding, marketing, and hiring. he's an amazing director which he won't be doing. i'm really excited because it looks beautiful but i will also hold my breath.
Yeah I agree. It’s about execution more than anything. Cobra Kai is one of my all time favorite shows and that’s just because it just feels like an off the wall fanfiction of Karate Kid lol. Comic book characters get rebooted every year and I’m sure many of the standouts vary all over the place. Remixing and Reusing good ideas isn’t a bad thing. It’s all about how it’s executed. And to be fair, anything that started on tv was probably trying to make money even when it was a new IP. That’s just how commercial art works.
Nicki Minaj used the hook as a sample for the chorus which is old school, and tasteful, and it worked well. I wouldn't consider that the same as these pop singers co-opting a chorus, Nicki Minaj is goated for that track. I feel like a better example for rappers stealing songs would be like flo rida or jason derulo.
HEAVY on Jason Derulo
@@xavi1298 Oh whatcha saaaaay. jk. Yeah big on that. Imogen Heap is my fav all time pop songwriter so Jason can get these hands!
i found it so interesting when people started giving her shit for super freaky girl when the song is the exact same formula as anaconda. people were saying "oh she's ripping off can't touch this, she's ripping off can't touch this", while the rick james reference is literally in the title. i think she said all that needs to be said about interpolation with that song. don't do it if you can't do it well.
@@AirborneAshes yeah, strange but even the use of a sample can be fresh or not. Fans can kinda smell a rinse and repeat.
@@AirborneAshesyeah people complaining about her interpolating that song is so dumb when can't touch this is so huge from doing the same thing
it still amazes me how bold it was for gwen stefani to interpolate wealthy man for rich girl in the first place
that certainly wasn't playing it safe
I know
It’s sooooo girlboss of her
rich girl is actually a remake of louchie lou & michie one’s song of the same name, so it was them who sampled it first, but gwen popularized it. and then her version of the song became so popular that a lot of people still don’t know it ever sampled fiddler on the roof in the first place lol. I remember being dumbfounded when I first heard if I were a rich man and thinking “wait, rich girl didn’t create this melody??”
@@quandaredevil goy
There's something infantilizing about that.
i like the point that nicki is a very original artist so she gets away with it more because she makes it more of her own thing. artists like drake or jack harlow on the otherhand, with songs like first class, staying alive, and way 2 sexy dont do enough with it and the sample overpowers what they do with it. people think of super freaky girl as a nicki song, but most people probably think of a song like first class as that song that sampled fergie
exactly-if the best part of the song is the sample, u have already lost. first class is a great example of this; nobody cares about the rest of the song. super freaky girl is its own SUPER fun thing, and it does make me want to listen to the original but only after ive finished nicki’s song lol
Who’s fergie
@@chrisrosario6114WHAT
This is like the "look at these popular characters, don't you want to see another quirky combined universe movie?" of music. Incorporating a line from another song and recontextualizing it can be cool, but only when done well. It doesn't help when everyone seems to start doing it.
Thank you for your upload schedule, somehow you beat the quantity to quality ratio because every vid is a banger
every video is a STINKER!!! I HATE Dev Limes 😡😡😡
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@@ville__pass away
@@ville__why are CZcams haters so uncreative 😭😭😭
I'm so glad someone's mentioning this, it makes pop music really bland and unoriginal right now
@@ville__ yeah okay mr spam
I’m less frustrated with the artists doing it and more frustrated with the people/fans who just eat it up and don’t even question how much this sucks for music in general
Real. Don't question, don't listen intentionally, don't think about it, just consoom
@@Pattamatt1998I don't like thinking about the art I consume too much, because then everything seems cliche, robotic and unoriginal.
The exception being Christopher Nolan films. These are very intellectual.
Phil Lord and Chris Miller's movies can be very enjoyable if you don't think about them too much. (Their better movies are still enjoyable even if you do think about them, but they do have some weaker films. But they consistently get the most important part right: realistic, grounded, human characters. In spite of their plot holes and contrivances, these are some of the best movies around.
Like, The Mitchells Vs The Machines has the machines defeated in such a stupid way, but the movie compensates with a realistic family dynamic and compelling characters, as well as good humour. Really, it should've been called "Meet the Mitchells", because the fighting against the machines was probably the worst part.)
my youtubers are feeding me so much rn im both panicking and ecstatic
so real
i get this i do im not panickijg but i really get it
TOO MANY UPLOADS TOO LITTLE TIME
Semi-related hot take time:
I've noticed this is/was a common thing in the Europop world. For example, daddy DJ - daddy DJ, basshunter - all I ever wanted, and s3rl - pretty rave girl are all the same melody. The italobrothers essentially built their careers on doing this as well.
Interestingly, I think there are a lot of musical similarities with Europop and Celtic folk music (especially Scottish and Irish), such as twiddly melodies and a lot of use of the I, IV, V and vi chords.
Double interestingly, the folk tradition constantly puts new words to the same melody. Some melodies have several different sets of lyrics associated with them.
Because of the musical similarities with folk music and Europop, it makes it a more obvious comparison regarding the melody "stealing" but perhaps it's also applicable to these mainstream pop songs doing the same thing; some melodies become so iconic that they outgrow the song they're originally attached to and people begin to borrow them in the same way that folk music does. They become part of the new folk tradition.
i agree with this perspective. in the eurodance/rave community especially back in the 90s, so much was about OH SHIT BRO IT'S THE SONG IT'S THE SONG WE GOTTA GOOO, originality is further down the priority list than recognition and unity. however the current phenomenon in pop just doesn't have the same energy imo. a lot more about selling records.
Jason Derulo's whatcha say still makes me upset cause Imogen heap made such a pretty song full of tension and buildup and he completely changed the energy of the song with the sample
damn, thank you for putting me onto this song
I was surprised to found out that Hide and Seek was where that came from, given that I’ve seen many people describe it as a very sad song about Imogen’s parent’s divorcing, I believe.
Him doing that was honestly gross. Good sample songs stay true to their origins, him making a song about divorce and sadness into a party song boils my blood
yup, makes no sense lmao. he ruined the song. the original is better in *literally* every way
@@QuesoquantumI disagree. A good sample song does not have to stick to the origin.
I read an article I wanna say in 2019 about interpolations and how they were gonna be the next big thing in music and how several record lables and producers had a lot in the works. Specifically songs that its easy to get the copyright or permissions for (or ones you dont need to get any permissions, like nursery rhymes) . With interpolations you only need to get the rights to the melody not the lyrics so its a bit easier than other types of remixes I think?
I think that might be getting rights to the 'song' (composition/lyrics) but not needing the rights to the 'master' (original recording)
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when dev posts i instantly anti age into nothing and scream while i evaporate out of my new born baby form ☺️
I read this and could 100% hear exactly what the echo of the disappearing scream sounds like. I don't know how to feel about that.
i think it's reeeally interesting that when ariana made 7 rings it was treated as an original song and not a parody- any other girl could've made that on tiktok and would've gotten bullied SO hard
1. Ariana was already established. She had many previous hits and people know that she's very talented and doesn't rely on a sample unlike others
2. The 'My Favorite Things' melody was incorporated quite nicely into '7 Rings' - it worked perfectly and also was not the center part(/chorus) of the song
3. 'My Favorite Things' is unlike other songs that are being sampled not from the 90s or 00s but rather a 60s song. Personally I feel like there's a difference taking an already established pop song to a song from a musical(not saying that 'The Sound of Music' isn't popular but you get my point.)
4. TSOM is one of Ariana's favorite movies and she's even had a SNL skit around it. Ariana is known loving the 50s and 60s and this is almost like an homage to that.
5. The TikTok girls mostly use nursery rhymes (ABCDEFU, Twinkle Twinkle Little B***H) which are a) very weird, considering these are for children and b) obviously VERY corny
6. Sampling has exploded in popularity in around Summer of 2020 and has started being overused and therefore getting tiring/annoying in 2021 - 7 Rings came out February 2019
7. TikTokers and some new/upcoming 'artists' lack talent in every way imaginable...comparing them to Ariana Grande is like comparing apples to oranges. They're literally not even on the same spectrum lol
@@bratzscene3131 While I do agree with a lot of this, it is still also true that if she was some random TikTok/Instagram up-and-coming artist she would've been bullied into oblivion for it. That's mostly just because people LOVE to hate, though, especially when the hating comes easy. Doesn't matter how talented or untalented they are, it's easy to hate a young artist with 50k followers and have an actual measurable effect. On the other hand, Ari with an extra decade-plus of experience on these girls and 379 million followers isn't gonna be quite as fazed by it.
@@bratzscene3131 I agree, I think this is one of the best executed of the songs she lists. As far as these songs go, it's much more of an homage that understand and respects the context of the original.
The phrase "I see it, I like it, I want it, I got it" actually fits very well with a slightly different spin on "These are a few of my favorite things". As opposed to completely missing or inverting the point of the original song for easy recognition.
The only time in recent memory that I’ve seen a spin-off live up to the quality of the original is Better Call Saul. It’s in the same universe and has some of the same characters but it’s a completely different genre with a completely different story, and you can watch it without having ever seen Breaking Bad, and it’ll still be incredibly enjoyable and interesting. I know people who say Better Call Saul is the best show they’ve ever seen, and they’ve never even watched one episode of Breaking Bad.
Because it expands on a different character who has an interesting story. Some of these spinoffs are just "you like this character? Child now"
the fact that i got that monopoly commercial where the girl is like “you ever wanted to play monopoly but on the go?” really goes with the vibe of this video i couldn’t imagine any commercial more perfect for the topic lol
I don't know if this is an interpolation, but I think my favorite one that is done well is Rina Sawayama using the FF7's victory jingle in Snakeskin. Its obvious, but its done in a way that she makes it her own and it adds to the song instead of just being "Omfg, its ff7"
dev is so silly i love it
she makes me giggle and kick my feet everytime she speaks
@@neo_nathan REAL REAL
My toes go in the air and they don't stop wiggling
THANK YOU SO MUCH for talking about this. I think the sampling argument is just part of the reasons why labels tend to push those songs more, while the rest is just faking their numbers. If you’ve noticed, more labels are using combined streaming methods to inflate a song’s streams and make it appear as if it’s doing much better than it’s actually performing. For example, on Spotify, it’s pretty typical that an artist has a clean version of a song, but it was always meant for searches and does not appear on an artist’s profile. Nowadays, labels are including clean versions on their artist’s profile in order to benefit from its combined streams, and inflate a song’s numbers that way. Labels don’t care if the song is good as long as they can manufacture the invisible audience listening to it.
(Sorry for the long comment it’s just such a stewpid blantant attempt at impact that labels are doing)
Everytime the new "What is Love" David Guetta remix comes on the radio I get soo excited before the singer acrually starts singing and I realize its the remix again 😭
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS!!! That shit makes me lose my mind. I will never forgive David Guetta and Bebe Rhexa for what they did to Blue. It didn't deserve that.
YES!! me and my brother are so confused when it plays and we expect blue, but then this dumpster fire comes on and people act like it's the original.
its literally trash like is there anyone who will sit there and let that garbage play. if there is please get help @@strawberycupcake
@@strawberycupcakeoh i love the song but i would be mad if someone said that was the original
I will never forgive Bebe Rhexa for this. She was pretty cool, but then she massacred my child
@@onlyluvh bad. It's bad
i think centuries and toms diner are good examples. fall out boy heard the hum that sounded a like it could be a war cry type thing and made a COMPLETELY new song with it. i'm not really into that kind of music but i just think it's crazy that they heard toms diner, which in a lot of ways is the complete opposite of edm, and made centuries.
They also used the Munsters theme song in their song Uma Thurman
Fall out boys honestly made the little hum tune sound like something from The Hunger Games
8:32 I think another thing that works about SFG and Anaconda is the fact that the songs they sample from are both sexual in meaning. She doesn’t take an innocent song (like It’s My Party) and make it sexual. Baby Got Back is literally about ass. Super Freak is about a girl who’s kinky. SFG is almost like if Super Freak were from the woman’s perspective, and Anaconda is almost like a collaboration or a feature.
I think Melanie Martinez did a really good job with pity party. She definitely made it her own especially with the music video. She also modernized it pretty well.
I was about to comment this !!
@@joocey_jule83 I was scrolling to find this specific comment lmao
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@@ville__cooler? i hardly know her
@@Digital_is_sillythis MIGHT be kurtis conner
7:08 this is too real 😭 there are an absurd amount of actually good kids cartoons, and they just make a spin-off where they’re babies. I have never seen someone over the age of 6 appreciate a baby spin-off
My least favorite is the Not Your Barbie Girl song. A huge part of it is that I really don’t like how it sounds and it’s everywhere, but on top of that, the aqua song was already tongue in cheek and the Ava Max team said let’s make it more obvious and annoying.
I feel like the reason artists need a "safety net" like interpolation, is because so many people are dropping radio-ready songs at an alarming rate, that it's very easy to get lost in the crowd.
I am SOOOO glad you talked about this, I’ve literally just been counting how many new songs come out that are just blatantly ripped off songs that came out not even 10 years ago with modernized lyrics. It’s so unbelievably stupid like can anyone have a creative thought once please 😭
as someone who loves sampling in music i’ve noticed this phenomenon too. it’s really made me realize the difference between sampling and transforming vs sort of parodying. like. most of my favorite songs are great uses of sampling like tears dry on their own by amy winehouse. in that song she samples ain’t no mounties in high enough and the subtlety of the sampling is what makes it into an artistic transformation. same situation with tell me by groove theory sampling all night long by mary jane girls
I absolutely agree. Love sampling and interpolation, too. But this has been driving me crazy since Puff Daddy songs like "Been Around the World" and "I'll Be Missing You" back in the day.
Warren G-- "Regulate"
Always wondered if that was the sort of thing 311's "Come Original" was talking about.
Unfortunately, the US market has become super risk-averse; the more original and innovative you are, the *less* you get greenlit these days, it seems.
an example where i think this is done well is the song “na na na” by lay bankz where they incorporate the line “if i was a rich girl” and the “na na na”s but with a different melody + whole new verses of rap. it makes it sound more like a nod to “rich girl” instead of just copying it
rich girl in itself is an interpolation. it comes from the musical Fiddler on the Roof
@@rykaro69 oh, i didn’t know that! that’s cool!
okay i completely agree with you here but icarly as adults actually makes sense. the ending of icarly left a lot open for interpretation and a lot of people wanted to see how theyd live out their lives post high school, and paramount+ made it to where they could actually do it justice by allowing adult themes. spongebob as babies made no sense, ill give you that, but icarly as adults is NOT on the same level as I’m Good (Blue) by david guetta and bebe rexha. anyway, thanks for the video dev!
Yes! “Better Off Alone” by Alice Deejay is one of my favorite eurodance songs, but I’m so tired of it being sampled to death 😭
I think Betty (Get Money) by Yung Gravy is an example where it works, but only because Gravy's whole gimmick for years has been this sort of thing
I feel like Saweetie has been doing this lately too. Almost every song is sampling a song already in existence I presume to ensure it’s “a bop”
I feel like Ava Max is a really good example of this that I don’t hear enough people talk about. I hate being mean about someone’s music but man I heard a song the other day and asked myself if this woman had ever had an original thought in her life.
This was also really popular in the late 2000's- early 2010s with songs like Right Round and Stronger. I noticed it then and it's back now like 10-15 years later.
Melanie Martinez actually did this well back in her crybaby’s era with “Pity Party” she used the chorus but completely changed the song and context.
Yes! I’m really glad someone spoke about this because it kinda always gave me this feeling as well. It feels less like putting a spin on something and more like “tricking” an audience or sort of stealing an audience.
this is something I've noticed and PREACH anytime I can talk about it. more with TV and movies than music but all are infuriating. why can we not just put the time and funds into a great quality thing instead of a pump and dump of shitty stuff. there's more media than we could even consume, we don't NEED to be making more things
True, but I like to think that we do need more new media. Key word: NEW, not just an idea that's been done to death. I want to see what visions ppl have for their stories, NOT the companies'. You can tell which shows and songs are made with passion vs the shows and songs made purely for cash.
I’ve never listened to any of these songs but you talk about it so passionately and present the information so well that I enjoy your videos a lot! ❤
I blame tik tok and spotify for this. The downside of having this much music this easily accessible for this cheap is that people trying to make a living on it will have to prioritize whatever can catch attention the quickest. and what grabs your attention faster than a song you already know and like? there’s enough new that someone can say “whoa that’s crazy, that’s not the original words” but they can still hum along with it.
7:39 It's an age thing. As you get older and have heard more music, you start to realize you've heard things already and notice it more. Every decade reminds me of music from the decade before. I like Miley's Flowers but I always end up listening to Gloria Gaynor's I Will Survive after!
dev i really appreciate you bc i’ve always wanted to make music and every time i watch one of ur mf videos it pushes me closer and closer to getting myself out there ❤️
when you were talking about reboot style shows i believe it can be done well. the best example i can think of is Boy Meets World and Girl Meets World. I grew up with GMW and it was incredibly successful and when I was older watched BMW and both shows hold up on their own.
idk if this counts but IVE's producers did a great job with the sample of I Will Survive in After Like like it was just so good
Yes! It sounds so good. I was a Ive concert with my mother and she pointed out how similar it sounded! They definitely made it work!
@@Mirrored33 its so cool how u went to their concert, i love their music and sameee my mom loves after like sm cuz she loves the i will survive sample and how much they made it work in the song
@@angelizespino6776 It was fun! My mom enjoyed them a lot! It was crazy how many people like IVE, especially since they are somewhat new!
that's geniunely a very good example of sampling and doing it right! Didn't take anything else from the song except the instrumental and for one part of the song only. Smart move. Honestly that part is the best of the whole song.
I loved I'm Blue growing up, especially paired with Sonic for some reason, so seeing the new one just. makes me irrationally annoyed 😭 or I guess just sad.
thank you for talking about this! i was literally thinking about this the other day. i feel like these twists on older songs take away the genuineness of those original songs in favor of getting streams/plays
No matter what, every single dev limes video makes me smile within the first 10 seconds :) appreciate you dev
melanie martinez did an interpolation of it's my party and i feel like they pulled it off super well while still having a feeling of originality
i guess it's bc it matched the theme of the song and i remember that she was a super fan of the singer who originally did it's mt party
And it has it’s own damn story that people can relate to!
"what if we lazily cover this song, but just write new words for it." Bonus points if the new words rhyme with the original
i always bring up "country grammar" by nelly when it comes to song samples and "fraiser" when it comes to tv show spinoffs. both aren't trying to copy the classic, instead making it their own thing and succeeding because of that
i love how every video i watch of yours is always me going 'mhm mhm EXACCTLLYY' like you just know how to explain it ☆
What makes Anaconda so good is that Nicki Minaj neither hides that it’s a sample nor relies on the sample. The song starts with the sample, but it is taken out of context immediately after that with her original verse (which sounds nothing like the sampled song). I’m Good on the other hand barely changes the melody, and it doesn’t add any original verses/structure, but it still changes too much to be a cover - it is the “you can copy my homework, but change it a bit so it’s not obvious”. It’s this uncanny valley that is particularly annoying - too similar for a sample, too different for a cover.
I do agree that when nicky does it, it feels more natural and like fun and not as tacky as most artists i see doing this
Thank you for explaining my feelings on this so perfectly. When I’ve complained about these songs before, I’ve had friends think I’m just being stuck up about sampling. I love songs with creative, transformative sampling, but using the entire structure of a song without adding anything original is not sampling.
Great vid. It boils down to corporate music vs art and the line we are forced to ride down the middle
I never really think of the music industry or artist as making things that are safe but i can definitely see it now
I absolutely agree with this take, and I would like to propose an artist that does interpolation well: Death's Dynamic Shroud. Samples galore, but everything is so transformative that it's easy to miss a sample for what it is. And some samples are from extremely popular songs and artists. It is absolutely possible to take the inspiration another song has given you and apply it to a new creation in a way that both pays homage to the original work and stands on its own as a new piece of art with its own merit and value.
It was really helpful for you to explain the difference between sampling and the interpolation stuff. And the difference between paying homage and totally changing the meaning or purpose of the song. Thanks!
This is just the alternate lyrics we would make up in middle school when we didn't know the words to the original. It's exactly the same, they even messed up the melodies a little bit too
When Nicki samples, she gives respect and hommage to the originals. She has a strong artistic voice and vision, so her samples give new life to old classics.
I feel like this trend and trying to get your song to go viral on tik tok go hand in hand
I’ve been thinking about this for such a long time. Thanks dev
I really agree and understand your frustration about this and the statement on how a lot of musicians play it safe by just making music they know people will like, in lieu of being unique and creating the art they want to make. It’s really sad to see and it almost makes me anxious seeing the direction art is going in. i hope things will change but i wonder how they would change
I’ve been calling it the Disney Effect🤣 people saw what you can get away with repurposing and said “bet”
I also can’t help but feel like some people are trying to mimic what someone like Yung Gravy does, but I think what makes his sampling work is that 1) he usually just uses the melody and adds his own vocals over it for the intro 2) the sampled melody works with the melody of his song and isn’t shoehorned in 3) the vintage music matches his affinity/hook for M!LFS so the music from a different time works for him. It adds to his overall vibe of “this is what I eff your mom to” instead of being super random for him.
This is exactly how I’ve felt about this not necessarily a new trend but a trend that keeps stooping lower and lower. There are some amazing songs that have maybe sampled older songs but ‘I’m good’ for example is just too much. I feel like it just takes away from the original song, especially ’My body’. It’s like turning an older song with meaning and expression into a bleak ‘everything’s awesome!’ pop song. Just leave it alone.
I like your take on this, it turned out more rounded than I had initially thought and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and opinions on the space
Thank you for articulating something that’s been on my mind for awhile now.