Is It Rude To Take Photos At Concerts?
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Calling out fans and embarrassing them during a concert is like a sure fire way to lose fans why would they do this lol
they're not her onlyfans
Cuz shes putting on a show and it annoys her
She doesn't need those fans
one time fugazi stopped a show and refused to play until the skinheads who were making their little babydick nazi salute in the pit left the show. that was pretty fuckin awesome.
They were in the front row. They were taking multiple photos with the flash on LONG before she called them out, and they were grown ass women. Fuck them.
Went to a Billie Eilish concert in 2018, last song she politely asked everyone to not record and everyone pretty much put their phone down. Some didn’t but that’s inevitable. It’s literally that easy!
Billie is also very sociable so her supporters always listen to her...she probably could have told them all to do anything and they probably would
pretty sure she asks this every time she sings when the party’s over :)
Same. I've been to shows where the performers asked certain songs not to be recorded and 99% of the attendees obliged.
Yes, and Billie was not saying that because she was upset about the level of attention she was getting, but because (at the concert I went to) that song was a memorial piece. She also asked people to take a moment of silence, to which again 99% of people respected.
Billie is amazing during concerts, very lovely, she attended a music festival here and my brother who attended was so happy and didn't feel let down in any way
I think it can also be dangerous to single out a small group or single person at a show. Especially with crazy fans out there. idk
Dangerous??? Lmao. I'm sure the group of 40 year old Icelandic women pose a MAJOR threat
100%
YESSS THIS idk why that's not a bigger part of the discussion. You gotta be careful calling people out when your rabid fans might do something crazy because they "love" you 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@elisabethscott67 I feel like in this first situation they're already bringing attention to themselves w the flash photography but idkk
that's such a good point. her diehard fanatics might do real harm to them just bc she singled them out.
I hate that every time there's a conflict between women one party is accused of being jealous of the other's beauty. Women aren't allowed to have normal conflicts, women have to have that shallow superficial competetiveness behind it.
Whenever women do anything there’s someone saying some bullshit
@@stop4500 its always “youre just jealous shes prettier” or “if it was a MAN doing this…”
it sounded like an attempt at a compliment to me, but yeah the implications are not great. and it's completely unrelated to what actually happened
it's so backhanded honestly
it's so weird, plus i doubt that miranda got a good look at them and had the time to get jealous, she's literally performing and has lights in her face lmao
Singling out fans and embarrassing them is not only very unprofessional and disrespectful but also unnecessarily.
It was 100% necessary.
They were literally in the front row taking multiple photos with the flash on. If you're selfie is more important than the comfortability of the performer that you're there to see, you deserve to be called out.
@@TheGreatman12called out for using flash, though, not for not paying attention
@@xafilmbyx that's literally why she called them out. The woman who posted this video pulled the "attention" thing out of her ass.
@@TheGreatman12 she didn’t even mention flash. She said that it was pissing her off that they weren’t listening to the song…
@@TheGreatman12 lmao she literally said they’re worried about a selfie and not the song, it’s pissing her off, at 0:41, clearly she’s calling them out for paying more attention to a selfie than her
Someone I knew recorded a show for a loved one in the hospital. Imagine that got called out. The cringe and humiliation experienced by the fans afterwards
That's exactly what i was thinking!! What if a person was supposed to be at those concerts but got into a heavy accident and couldn't go anymore, or what if it's someone who has a physical disability that makes them homebound??
IS YOUR PFP A REF TO SALAMI ROSE JOE LOUIS??!!!?😮😮😮😮
Oh my God you're the people that I love!!
I had jaw surgery last year and one of my favorite concerts is on the same day as my surgery so my friend called me in the middle of the concert so that I'd get to see some of it
Recording is one thing. I've recorded shows. But they were using their flash. Some people walked out, but most of the people there were glad she said something. They were annoying the people all around them.
@@vozera723 omg i hope everything went well and you recovered just fine!! That’s so sweet, I’m so happy you have ppl like that in your life and that it got your mind off of the worries and stresses that day. I’m glad you didn’t get verbally attacked by the artist through the phone lol
texting and taking pics may distract a couple people but an artist abruptly stopping the show distracts literally every person in attendance and for the rest of the show that's all anybody is going to be thinking about
Adele going "there's lots of people outside that couldn't get in" is so dumb because as someone who's never been to a live show I can't describe how happy I am that I can find recordings of my favorite songs online from fans, so many artist do this to their fans, talk about "live in the moment" well it's easy when you sing these songs live every night but for a lot of fans they can't go to concerts all the time and they just want a video/photo to look back on...
That's such a good point omg. So mean-spirited and self-centered to reprimand someone who is literally giving you attention and support and money in that very moment
i’m glad i have videos and photos from concerts i’ve been to bc my memory is just horrible 😭 at least the videos genuinely bring me back to the moment, bc i can’t for the life of me recall them. it’s cptsd brain, i wish i could remember, but i can’t. i don’t make it the artist’s problem when i record but i also struggle to see how u even could lol…when i saw twenty one pilots a million years ago, tyler’s wife jenna was literally in the crowd after the show offering to take pics with us. nothing was weird and it was fun. concert life has changed
Exactly! I like to see live recording of a band I’m new too, and want to see how good they are live. I live in a small reservation town, and we don’t get to see bands like these.
99% of people who record at concerts don't ever even view that footage again.
Even when they post it, it barely gets any views. It's literally just to flex the fact that you spent 200 dollars to stand in a crowd of drunk and high people watching a performer sing worse versions of the songs that they love. What a bunch of overpriveleged clowns.
@@TheGreatman12 i love when people pull statistics out of their asses to prove a nonexistent point
it was disrespectful for them to use flash, but she was upset that they weren't paying attention to her, and thats dumb.
I imagine these girls are big fans since they bought vip and we’re taking a photo with her while they had a chance.
But can you imagine being like “omg finally, I waited so long and paid so much money for this! let’s take a picture so we can remember this moment for the rest of our lives :)”
and then immediately being yelled at.. by the person you were so excited to see.. because you weren’t paying enough attention to them..
That’s wild
And like they could've only not been paying attention for less than a minute.
It’s sooooo entitled to me. How much of a star do you need to be?
Yh plus they’re the ones paying for the tickets and experience, so they should be able to enjoy it in their own way. It wasn’t disturbing the show it was literally just a selfie.
heres an insane take-- maybe your ticket prices are too high if ppl feel entitled to do whatever they want during the show bc they paid that money for it
ooo nothing pisses me off more than concert goers that don't follow concert etiquette. i once had someone in front of me at a packed general admission show who was facing opposite the stage talking to her friend. the whole set. respect the openers!! but i also wouldn't want them to be publicly embarrassed by the person with the most power in the room you know
@@BRIMxmusic haha this reminds me of a show i went to. i talked to this guy at the barricade before the show and he told me he paid $400 for a VIP ticket that included a poster signing with the band (which he missed because he showed up too late). he BOOED the opening acts, i’m talking fully booed as loud as he could even though they weren’t bad at all, i happened to like them a lot. and then when the main act came on he asked security to drag him over the barricade FOUR SONGS IN. so much for that $400 VIP ticket huh… lol.
I mean then Ticketmaster needs to be broken down then that is never gonna happen
I don't think it's an entitlement thing. They should be allowed to record her or take a selfie with her. There's nothing wrong with it unless it's hurting anyone.
@@BRIMxmusicThey didn't come to watch them though, therefore they're not going to care. Why does that bother you? Why don't you watch the openers instead of the random ppl in the audience. 😐 Kinda weird bro.
I am legally blind so I like to take lots of photos and videos and look at them to see the set, lighting, just what is going on in general as I can see much better up close on a screen than even close up seats at a show. I try to be respectful, use no flash make sure to let the people know behind me so they can let me know if I'm blocking them (this has actually lead to some cute interactions of tall dudes taking better shots for me at metal shows.) I would be absolutely HORRIFIED to be called out for this. I really don't want to bother anyone let alone the artist, I just am excited to be there usually and wanna see what everyone else is, easiest way is just take some pictures and videos, maybe have a friend describe certain things to me.
Little different because it was much more uncalled for and rude, but as someone who’s seen slipknot live it kinda reminds me of how Corey Taylor multiple times has slapped phones out of peoples hands at concerts. But his reasoning is less “your distracting everyone with flash and being inconsiderate” and more boomer type “phone bad! watch show! don’t take pics or vids or text you’re at show watch it!!!!” apparently he did it when ppl were texting in GA right against the barrier, and I get it’s kinda weird and all but like what if it was an emergency? What if something important was happening? What if it’s a kid answering their parents to say they’re safe or something? Idk he can be an asshole and boomerish at times
i’ve only seen slipknot live once, but i think we all have to admit that they kinda suck live now. especially corey. i completely understand why there’s no energy from him anymore, he’s getting old and he’s spent half his life yelling the same exact songs 300 nights a year. i’d have low energy too. but man, shit is kind of a snooze fest. how much longer can they milk this band before they give it up and admit that it’s stale now? just my opinion sorry to ramble lol.
@@bunnytheknoxvillesadly thats how it usually is lol, one of the only bands i know that are still as good now as in the 90s is probably the hives. Thats prob because some of their concerts are set in more closed off areas, seems so cool tbh. also their music has so much energy and charisma that im sure its super fun to sing them.
@@robbesworkshop that’s the sad truth. i don’t think there’s a single band from the 90s/00s nu metal scene whose recent music i listen to. new slipknot sucks, new korn mostly sucks (although jon davis is still a pretty good performer), system of a down doesn’t even make music anymore lol. sucks.
@@bunnytheknoxville NO LMFAOOOOO i don't wanna hear this. been a slipknot fan for over a decade and i've never been able to afford a concert. well i'll just go back to enjoying iowa lolol no one can stop me
corey taylor does lowkey have some boomer ass takes in the interviews i've read of him...
which is why i try my best not to learn ANYTHING about him or the other band members. please i need my early slipknot albums lmao i can't handle this loss i can't do it
edit - sorry for the triple comment but oh man. linkin park, SOAD, rage and slipknot are my top teen favs and i kept following them because i respect their growth as musicians. yes i am a super nerd fan of nu metal and the surrounding genres. lmaooo
“Ppl are taking selfies instead of listening to my song 😡”
EVERY person who went to that concert paid to go to listen to your songs, not to watch you throw a hissy fit about someone taking a selfie..
Seeing a celebrity have a meltdown over a phone would ruin my experience tbh
Seeing someone on stage stop everything to be mad at a phone would make me go, "Wow. I wasted my money. I could've gotten a better experience if I just stayed home."
calling audience members out like that has the same energy of a teacher going "ill wait." while a single child does something off task
Big theif fan 20018 get owned sorry hun
Fun fact: Dev actual takes good care of nick, he’s just not allowed to leave the basement unless it’s time to record.
Who are they to each other? I'm new to both of their channels and I noticed they have a similar background
@@luna-pt2gp i honestly don’t know, but it seems like they’re friends/roommates. They’re in a band together too so 🤷🏽♀️
@@isa-ne4oe agreed! I just don’t wanna jump to any conclusions
it's so funny, she's legit on his TikTok acc im pretty sure lmaooo
@@isa-ne4oeI’m pretty sure nick has a gf
i’m 5 foot so there’s been plenty of times where I have been recording an artist at a concert because I literally cannot see. if i was called out like this I would be livid, embarrassed and probably just end up walking out
The guy from disturbed absolutely gives off lowkey misogyny. Calling a girl simply by “brunette” and singling her out in specific for “texting” when the stereotype is that all women do is text on they phones. Especially when I guarantee so many others were on their phones (lots of guys as well)
Heh.
all concertgoers do is eat hot chip, text daughter in hailstorm, and lie
@@caramazzola2399 thats all i do ever
It’s interesting the difference in reaction between these and some like Steve Lacy or Tyler, and when fans may support guys just going off/break phone of teen girls for nothin
I think you're reading into it.
I feel like some people think if you’re taking pictures or videos or whatever you’re not “living in the moment” which I don’t think is a great argument. People experience and enjoy the same concerts differently and as long as you’re being respectful of those around you I think you do you. I love taking photos at concerts because I love being able to go home and edit and touch up pics and have cool shots to look back on. At the same time I try not to have my phone block anyone’s view, I never use flash, and I try to not look at the concert through my phone while I’m there.
I also have chronic health issues which make standing through concerts uncomfortable and painful and so I’m usually unable to dance around and sing at concerts anyway. I’ve had someone harass me after a show because “I wasn’t singing enough” and I had been given a set list. Calling people out for enjoying shows within their limitations or just cause they’re enjoying it a different way is so petty.
Although I haven’t done it in a few years, I have recorded full shows before and I think the archival of live music is super neat. I’m so grateful to the people who’ve uploaded videos of full concerts of bands that have since disbanded. Last year I was able to help out a friend who had gotten covid right before seeing Tessa Violet and so after the show i uploaded the videos I had taken to google drive for them so they could still hear/see some of the show.
I can see how having audiences full of people looking at you through their phone could be annoying but if you’re not gonna address it in a kind way I feel like you’re just alienating a bunch of people who paid to see you and are just trying to have a fun time.
I used to think it was dumb to use your phone to record and stuff at concerts but honestly I stopped caring. My mom does it and she still has tons of fun at concerts.
You had it right the first time. It is extremely dumb.
Instead of just enjoying the experience, you're now more focused on keeping your phone steady and getting a good shot. Just take a picture WITH THE FLASH OFF and enjoy the concert.
@@TheGreatman12 but like even if you're doing it for a minute.. that's a single minute at a concert spent not fully paying attention that gains you a permanent important memory, something to remind yourself as well as show family and friends in the future.
Same... I have a really bad memory and so when I don't record I don't remember anything. I still interact, sing along, jump but I record. I like to listen to myself scream to remind me how I felt. I definitely don't film to get a perfect shot of anything. I went to two concerts this summer, a Latin boy band and a KPop group and I recorded my favorite songs at both. For the songs I didn't record, or the segments where the KPop artists were just talking, I cannot remember what it was like at all. Zero memory. And I regularly rewatch the videos I took because I LOVE those artists.
I agree that flash should be off for photos, but videos can be really precious time capsules for people to enjoy time and time again later. I can take a video of a special song or cool part without feeling like I’m missing out, and then I have a slice of time saved. It’s good to remember to be in the moment, but it is up to each individual to know how they will best find value in an experience. 🧡 I also tend to somewhat blackout at concerts after a certain amount of time bc I get sensory overload, and so a video may be my ONLY memory of certain parts. You never know someone’s exact situation. I like to assume the best in others when I can.
@@TheGreatman12I have really bad memory and just.. Can't remember stuff unless I have reminders. If I don't have pictures/videos or atleast something like confetti, I will not be able to remember. I do try to enjoy the experience and I won't film the whole time, but what is an experience worth if I can't recall it?
Now my case is probably a bit more rare, but it still helps everyone remind themselves of the experience. Especially like decades later, having something to remind you how it was like is amazing.
People have been taking pictures at concerts for decades. As soon as portable cameras were a thing, so was taking pictures.
It wasn't a problem until it was selfies. But there isn't actually any difference.
You planned an event. If you want super specific rules at your event like "no pictures" you have to include that in the rule list for the tickets people paid for. Otherwise, do not be surprised when people are excited to be there and want to document it.
At this point I hear about concert drama WAY more than I go to concerts but Im lovin it
agree! there’s also a power dynamic that performers should be aware of when having interactions with crowds.
There's ways of doing this. Instead of isolating certain fans and being patronising isn't the one. What about just addressing the crowd and being like "for this song, keep that phone in your pocket and be here in this room" "have this special moment with us"
I'm autistic and go to shows with my parents sometimes. The entire time I'm sitting down on my phone with my earbuds in, I can still hear the music, and I'm still enjoying the show, just in a way thats comfortable for me. If i got called out for that I would honestly be traumatized.
generally speaking, i understand as an artist wanting people to “be in the moment” and not use their phones, but i think it’s kind of wild to ask people that paid money to see you not to take pictures or videos to remember the experience. especially if there’s no policy against phones going into the venue. if an artist i loved called me out and embarrassed me like that i could never listen to their music the same way again.
i went to a men i trust concert and i wanted to be “too cool” to use my phone but ultimately i caved and had an amazing night while taking photos and videos that i’ll always have to look back on!
plus, i’m short and the people in front of me who were also recording helped me out because i could actually see what was happening on stage lol
yeah i think as long as people are respectful theres nothing wrong with taking pics/videos as people enjoy concerts in different ways and some people may have memory problems or have someone at home who wasnt able to attend the concert for whatever reason 🤔 i went to a declan mckenna concert and recorded some videos and im really glad i did because my memories of the night are really hazy and without videos i wouldnt have been able to remember it as i had felt really ill with endo cramps😮so honestly i think your comment sums it up perfectly 😜❤️
I went to a boygenius concert a little while back, and a fan happened to be snapping photos of Phoebe while she was performing Letter to an Old Poet. The fan was close to her, in the pits. She asked the fan not to take any more photos, because the song is about her experience in a emotionally and possibly physically abusive relationship and is very important for her. I don’t think anyone would want to have photos taken of them while they’re recounting a harrowing experience, so her request was completely valid. It’s one that I absolutely agree with and understand.
Yeah I was there too. Before the song she requested nobody film and the person still did, so she called them out. Phoebe was totally in the right
Bro she's performing the song in front of people clearly it isn't that hard for her to do. That shit is dumb. If people pay to come see you perform, they're allowed to take pictures. Doesn't matter what song you're currently performing, you are the spectacle they paid to see. Mad stupid excuse.
Yeah this is a bit psychotic. It's a concert. We've been taking pictures and selfies at concerts for decades now. I always snapped a few and I used to see so many bands at festivals and shit. I've probably seen 30+ live performances and have never heard anyone complain about taking pictures or selfies. I am old now and it's been a while so its totally possible that has changed but it is in no way known etiquette
I dont know… I feel like its a bit outlandish if youre a famous artist to request fans not to take pictures. If youre someone playing for an intimate audience of 30 people in your local bar and youre getting emotional while singing, im sure it would be different but i think once you reach the level of fame where you cant individually remember all the faces of the people in your audience, its hard to police them about what they should be doing if what they are doing isnt technically anything bad.
y’all in the replies - it’s ONE SONG. three minutes of no pictures during a very vulnerable song sounds way more than reasonable. they can take pictures and videos through the rest of the concert. my sister also went to a boygenius concert and has so many videos to look back on!!! it’s just this one song that she doesn’t feel comfortable with people taking photos during. it is not at all a “nooo pay attention to meeee 🥺🥺” situation like dev talked about lmao
If it was a Dolly Parton concert, and she was getting distracted or didn't like what they were doing, Dolly would have said:
""Well hey lil darlins, I'm sorry to have stopped the song but I'd be so grateful if yall could turn your flash off or stop taking your selfies right now cause its distracting me ever so much and I just wanna put on a really good show for all yall wonderful people, cause I just love yall so much and I love singin my songs ❤🎵 thank you so much babygirls/handsome fellers""
So lets just, all be more like Dolly Parton in everything we do.
Especially musicians and people who are on stage.
Okay that's it that's my comment 🙂 😂
She's a true lady. Always so polite and respectful. She knows that her audience relationship is the most important thing as a singer also.
Alright, no more arguing. This comment section is dedicated to appreciating Dolly Parton now.
WWDD. Always.
Imagine if you were filming a concert for your sick relative/friend who couldn’t attend or something. Yeah, really amazing to call people out when you don’t know sh*t.
I have memory loss. If it were me and they kicked me out after only recording or taking pics I'd sue tf out of them for discrimination against disabilities.
@@breewashereplease 😭
My brother did that for me at the blink-182 concert since I have severe MS and can’t go. I would be horrified if he was treated like this while he was doing that! Luckily they don’t seem to be the types to do such a thing. WTF
@@worm-bri big brain move for someone with a faulty brain 😏
I can understand being fed up by people on their phones all the time, I kinda feel sad when I see like 5 people at the same table just scrolling on Facebook aimlessly... But, funny thing is, for me at least, I often enjoy more what I'm doing if I make the conscious decision to take a bunch of pictures and videos to really capture the moment. I rarely post them, it's just a way to tell myself "Hey this is special, I'll want something to remember it at some point!" and notice beautiful things to capture with my camera for a moment.
I guess you need a balance too, taking a few pics/videos but also come back to the "real life" and enjoy without distractions.
The beach ball is a litmus test for a good show and Miranda literally stabbed it to death lol what a metaphor
That’s such a good/funny point😆
im sorry but the beach ball is the best part of the show. period.
I really felt the passion in the subject Dev, and it's really cool to learn about your experiences while touring!!
i used to always feel bad for taking videos/photos at concerts i go to, but now after hearing points made in the video i 1) paid a LOT of money to go see them, and 2) shouldn’t feel bad for trying to enjoy the moment!! taking videos and photos at concerts help people remember how good that show made them feel, and they shouldn’t be singled out for trying to capture memories
ur right its just never a big enough deal to embarass ur fans like that💀unless theyre calling for a safe moshpit or someone throwing things on stage like.. relax
hello dev!!!, i know this isn't current drama rly, but i'd love to hear your take on doja cat isolating her audience by calling all of her old music 'cash grabs' and honestly just the way she interacts with fans in general. also i love you 👁👄👁
I agree!!
I would also like to hear her take on it. I’m personally okay with it.
you know it’s a good day when dev posts
so basically ever other day is a great day? (yes)
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i went to a concert recently and there were these girls taking pics in front of me with flash during the concert and it was really annoying during the show and the videos i took wouldnt focus on the artist so idk
yeah and dev agreed that she shouldve asked them to stop taking pictures with flash but that's not what she called them out for, she was upset they weren't paying her more attention
You do know lol. Stand tall in your disagreement
@@rat3015oh well if Dev says that's the case then it MUST be true. 🤡
um.... the whole point of the video is to see what dev has to say
I have done stuff like texting at a concert cause usually I forget to text my parents when I get in the arena cause I'm so excited and focused on the fact I'm seeing someone I look up to but I want them to know I got in safe and everything, I could not imagine the person I'm seeing calling me out for texting or even them getting angry at me filming or taking pic cus at concerts I'll take videos of my friend's fave songs if they couldn't come so they can at least have a song they like. If you don't want people filming or taking pictures then have a phone ban, those type of stuff are very known and sure people will be pissed but most people will follow it
As a concert photographer I’d probably have a full blown panic attack if an artist yelled at me for taking pictures
Hey dev. I love you and nick so much. THANK YOU. You guys are literally blessing the internet when I thought it was dead. Thxxxx I love ur brains and ur funnys and ur faces
wtf is this comment LMAO
genuinely what is this lmfao
@@banana_365iguess what?
@@regresaperry no no no I meant
Wait I didn't know they lived together
I didn't see the mistake b4 posting it
@@regresaperry why are people so confused by this comment now i'm confused
the adele tripod thing too like reflects such a lack of knowledge of how music fandom operated before phones....like collecting tapes was THE way fans had to exchange concert footage and memories it's deeply rooted in music culture and adoration of the artist. there's a lot to criticize in post-covid concert culture, but if any artist is so hyperfocused on someone not giving them undivided attention that's so clearly a cry for their own insecurities over anything else. public shaming is so deeply deeply gross.
*is extremely kind, considerate and understanding the entire video*
"Do you guys think I'm being mean???"
iconic
I personally don't really film at concerts but I totally get why people do it. Of course it's a little annoying when you're in the back and all you see is a sea of phones but who am I to tell people what they can and cannot do (unless they have their phone right in front of my face the whole time). I just wish more people would turn their phone brightness down so it'd be a little less distracting 😫😂
only a few seconds in and i can safely say this is probably a dev limes video
Impossible this is Dev Grapefruit
Someone started taking selfies during my cinema showing today, that's a place where your phone shouldn't even be out, let alone taking flash photos! A concert is a whole different ball park...
every dev limes video is "should doing this at a concert get you murdered?" and the answer is always "well it kinda depends" and i love that
i still remember when the adele thing happened and i got ate up on twitter coz i said there was no need for adele to call out that woman who was filming for her amusement and ofc something for her post-concert memories. these celebrities need to be humbled.
i dont get why some artists are so ungrateful tbh, i get having boundaries and stuff but treating fans like they arent an important part of your career and community is so tone deaf.
if someone brought a damn beach ball to my concert i would thank them for bringing a unique experience to my concert likeee
i have horrible memory and looking at old concert videos makes me really happy… and being yelled at by an artist i love enough to pay to see live would just ruin their music for me forever
I feel like my opinion on this flipped 180 when I learned they were using flash but maybe that’s just me
I feel like even if I was the girl who got called out, I still wouldn't care enough to make a thing out of it. It's really not a big deal on either side. The most mindboggling thing about this entire discussion is the fact that people care enough to go back and forth debating it tbh
people on the internet have weird priorities
But if I was a girl in that group of women taking the photo, I’d be embarrassed that an artist ( probably one of my favorite artists in the entire world) called me OUT personally because she felt upset that we were taking a photo. A photo takes a couple of seconds to take too, idk there was a post on Twitter about one of the women who were at the concert stating “it felt like I was being scolded by a teacher to sit me back at my place. I’m a grown adult but I felt like a child.” (or something along those lines). I guess many people can relate because so many kids had that experience and it’s embarrassing tbh.
This person's comment feels like they're saying public humiliation is not a big deal and the people who felt a certain way on behalf of the person who was embarrassed should just stfu and not have an opinion or discussion. Lmao
@@breewashere An artist telling you to stop taking pictures at their show is a dick move, not “public humiliation.” That’s such an exaggerated description of what happened that it actively devalues the meaning of what public humiliation actually is. She didn’t insult them, embarrass them or direct her audience to act against them, she simply asked them to stop taking pictures. I don’t agree with the sentiment at all, it’s pretentious, rude and unappreciative, but it’s hardly something to be distraught over.
@@roxanne_ Fair point. I don’t think that would embarrass me, or really affect me beyond initial reaction, but I get what you’re saying. I still believe it’s being blown out of proportion though. Of all the controversial things musicians and artists do, this is pretty tame.
It’s crazy how they can’t take photos or a video so they can look back on this great moment. I’m pretty sure they’re annoyed that if they do this they won’t go to their next concert or share their whole concert online to diminish sales.
My dad played large gigs for years (singer)and he always told me that artists know exactly how much influence they have on that stage and they have to have a responsibility with that . If someone’s favorite artist told them to do something harmful some would bc they wanted to be loved by their fav . This is a huge misuse of that influence she has on her fans and to see this I know exactly what my dad meant now how shitty of her to shame that girl and watch everyone boo them that’s absolutely disgusting.
Its SO weird to me when artists care about audience members capturing the show. Like....do they not realize there are professionals doing the same thing???? Primarily for the artist's benefit/promotion??? Is it just because they can't make money off of the audience members' photos and videos that they care so much????
I think some of them make people pay for photos with them, yeah.
when i record videos for the most part im not even looking at my phone. i make sure its pointing in the right direction and then watch over my phone. i love watching the videos back.
also its so easy to deal with this sort of thing in a nice way or not even make an issue out of it - i remember seeing a video of an artist (i think billie eilish? im not sure though) reach out and push away someones phone that was recording in front of their face but then use that moment to sing directly to them, and theres a bunch of videos of artists taking someones phone up on stage (im p sure the main one i saw was paramore) with them to dance around then give it back.
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it is rude to do anything at concerts. everyone should sit still and silently stare at the musician for the entire duration of the concert
the texting one is so crazy, especially like if something serious is happening, like you have no idea whats happening, such asshole behavior
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Idk who that male performer was but he was so so rude. Calling her “brunette” and swearing at her and singling her out… so goddamn rude
In Japan you can’t film or have your phones out during a concert. They have to live in the moment. If you want your concert to be like that then ask the venue for a polic, or find a venue with that policy.
I liked to video a few seconds of each song at the last concert I went to. Purely because I never get to go to concerts and felt so honored to be there I wanted to remember it. I was still in the moment, barely looking at the screen.
At the same time I understand it being a bit annoying. There was a guy in front of me looking at his 500,000$ savings account during the openers. It’s pretty insensitive and was distracting at times XD
to bring up another point, i do find it disrespectful when people talk during concerts, especially with the opening acts. i went to a sabrina carpenter concert recently and i loved the openers music and i was really excited but i couldn’t hear anything she was saying and half the time i didn’t know what she was singing. yes it’s fine to talk to your friend a few times to pass a comment but talking over the entire set of an opener when she’s probably nervous coz these people aren’t her fans is just so rude in my eyes. and NEVER talk over an artist talking or making a speech coz that is insanely disrespectful. and if you’re gonna talk, talk before the show or in-between the opener and the headliner. it’s distracting to audience members and the artists to talk throughout.
my dad saw her years ago at a concert (not her own) and said she acted extremely pretentious 😍
I think artists need to just communicate some rules before / early on in the concert and not be rude to the fans like this - I don't see the problem with a beach ball? I went to see Placebo earlier this year and they ask you early on not to focus on filming and taking photos and instead focus on enjoying the live music. Different thing, but still related, when I went to see Bridge City Sinners they said to people who want to dance like crazy to be in the middle in the mosh pit with everyone else who wants to dance (and that person ain't me so I am staying to the side).
On the no phone policy, Jack white does that at his shows and has resulted in some of the most fun concerts I have ever been to! Very cool concept
i don't really think artists should ever call out fans who aren't hurting or distracting anyone. if i went to see my fav artist and they told me to live in the moment and not video tape it, i would never listen to their shit again lol
she's reminding me of when i would choreograph myself a dance for my family after dinner, but like if my family didn't wanna come watch it🤣
idk i hate the entitlement of some fans when they say “i PAID x amount of money, i PAY YOUR BILLS therefore i can do WHAT I WANT.” like that’s a shitty and harmful mindset to have imo.
like don’t get me wrong it’s fucked up for artists to call out and embarrass fans who are just taking photos or whatever, but i don’t like that people are taking this to basically say “i’m your boss and i can do what i want.” like i shouldn’t have to break down why that’s a bad thing to think.
tl;dr entitlement on both sides is bad. be normal.
They are the boss though. Same way actors get their money from their fans. The same way in America the citizens are the boss of the police. If they're doing an act that is not harmful or actually physically affecting anyone (the camera flash) then there's nothing wrong with that attitude. They just don't need to act b-tchy for no reason, the fans or the singer.
I agree, both sides are coming from entitlement instead of trying to get better at setting boundaries that uplift us ALL. Reacting to one entitled action by doubling down with your own entitlement is dragging everyone down. In reality people are people and the inequality between us is a huge part of this issue.
This group of ladies spent over 4 minutes, in the FRONT ROW, on flash., backs turned. Apparently, the people around them were annoyed at the group bc it was distracting. They were having a literal photo shoot…each lady got multiple single shots and a bunch of different group pix. I saw someone taking a video of those ladies and they were A LOT!! And it comes to the most emotional part of the song, they all have their backs to her & continuing their flash photo shoot and it finally got to Miranda. She’s trying to give her all for this song dripping with emotion, yet the only emotion she felt was annoyance. Miranda let their behavior continue for close to 5 minutes and THEN decided to tell them “enough is enough”. Had I been behind those ladies, I would’ve clapped at her remarks.
Be courteous of who’s around you and not act like you’re the only person there. The majority of venues don’t allow real camera’s with the detachable lenses. Man, I’m less distracting with my camera, regardless of the lens I use than most people are with their camera phones.
“shes taking selfies instead of listening to þe music” her ears work as well?? she can use her ears while taking selfies 😭
Often times adventure over to Thrasher, metal, goth, punk, etc. concerts and whenever somebody is called out it’s usually for harming someone else or throwing the crowd off. I think if it is too make sure everyone’s OK and nobody is getting assaulted then it’s very valid to call them out if you see it. As for the phone stuff, it’s not that important I think.
I love these type of videos. Keep it up, Dev!
The beach ball thing is so annoying. I saw Turnstile close out a festival a couple years ago, and fans blew up balloons and tied them off with little led lights inside. We all kept them up in the air and boo'd whenever someone popped one. It was such a great memory and so surreal to see.
It's clear that this Miranda Lambert person can't handle anyone not having their attention on her for even a moment, and clearly doesn't care whether her fans have a fun time or a memorable experience. So gross.
Also you definitely didn't go too hard on her! I was watching this thinking, how come so many undeserving artists get domed with a cell phone these days when Miranda Lambert is just asking for it with the way she treats her fans?! Lmao
i don’t go to concerts often. when i do go i get so so excited. i love taking videos so i can watch them afterwards. i’ve been to shows that i’ve filmed the whole show (this was when i was younger and i don’t have space to do that). like i paid to be able to take pictures and stuff. i want to be able to remember this night. if i was singled out like that by an artist that i love i would be so so upset. i don’t think i could ever listen to that artist again
Dev saying these artist are acting like tiny little binky winky babies the whole time made me cackle
Just want to say that I'm proud of how you pivoted your content Dev!
finally got around to listen to your music and god damn it's so beautiful, I've been sleeping on something great
You're so brilliant, Dev ❤I can't wait to see you in concert one day you're such a deeply passionate and genuine person
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Its such a power play to be the one on mic and yelling at someone in the crowd when they literally cannot respond youre just calling someone out to be an ahole
Off topic but, I’ve literally been listening to your new EP everyday for like 2 weeks it’s so good
It’s interesting the difference in reaction between these and some like Steve Lacy or Tyler (just examples I remember where people thought it was justified despite the fans doing much less). Like bro smashed a whole camera and told off a fans mom. It’s interesting because people play it off as fine because “just 16 yr old white girls”
Why is it fine he's being treated like a tiktok prop? Y'all need to see artists as human.
And the "telling off a girl's mom" was a girl who clearly waited until it got totally quiet so she could have a viral moment. Lmao, come on.
I went to this Logic concert in Salt Lake City recently and there was this guy in the very front. He was clearly super hyped to be there and was singing every lyric like they meant so much to him. Logic stopped the song, told him to chill and calm down and then started the song over again. I love logic but it was so weird bruh
I meaaaan sometimes those beach balls that aren't like part of the show and provided by the staff can be really annoying if it's not like a festival or something. Idk I don't want to get bopped in the head or booed at because I didn't hit the ball to keep it going that someone just decided to chuck into the crowd.
I went to a concert last Tuesday that had a no photo/no video policy - it was kind of annoying because there was no warning about it before the show, but honestly kind of nice?? I feel like every time I go to a concert half the audience’s arms and phones are in my way of seeing the actual artist, but at the same time I want to be able to take a picture or two and feel like I should be able to do that respectfully
Texting and taking photos are two very different things. At the Miranda Lambert show - there are other clips of these women, from other audience members. The women were being incredibly inconsiderate, it was obvious.
The texting thing.. That’s nobody’s freakin’ business. As long as I am not in a movie theater and the light isn’t causing an interruption - mind your damned business.
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calling out people for texting is so frustrating too because like, you dont know why theyre on their phone. you dont know who theyre texting. personally i use my phone to ground myself during bouts of anxiety, i would be so upset if a performer called me out for ignoring them
I’m convinced that one day the artists that do this are going to get so humbled bc someone is going to be like “I was taking a video to send to my mom because she really wanted to come but she’s in cancer treatment” 😭
I once had a band perform during one of my DJ nights, and the crowd left the venue not much later after they went on, kudos to them the singer just closed their eyes and kept performing even knowing they made the crowd leave. So your points are totally valid. People acting liking video recordings at shows hasn't been around since the 80s, 90s 😂
17:35 love this compassionate, thoughtful take 👏👏
only time i’ve seen recently where someone called out an audience member and it was a net positive is when a group i enjoy told someone not the throw something onto the stage and at the group. and he didn’t point at them or take a super angry tone but pretty firm. when it’s a safety concern is when i think it’s truly warranted
Something that I think as someone who’s performed on stage alot also is the stage lights are so bright, it takes effort to spot someone doing something in the audience on a stage. Especially when the lights are low in The audience and you have a spotlight or two on stage.
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like me personally i’m gonna take pictures and videos at a concert especially an expensive one i want to remember every single second of that special moment! am i gonna do it the whole time? no but people who do shouldn’t get singled out especially by an artist that’s insane 😭😭
I like how Lemons always shows multiple viewpoints thecause that's cool.
I take all kinds of pictures and videos at every concert I go to. I watch the videos back all the time. Why would I not want to capture the moment of a band or artist I love and be able to relive the live experience over and over again? I have a shitty ass memory, I’m not going to remember the little details of the concert. But you know what will? My memory card. The cloud. I can relive these moments over and over again.
Plus I’m a full time videographer/photographer. You think I’m not going to take pictures and video of something I’m enjoying???? Fat chance.
i had a family emergency happen to me while i was at a concert TWICE like once my cousin was in the hspital and my brother was texting me how he was doing and the other time the police were at my house,, and i was never called out for texting or anything but i cant imagine how id feel if i was. im tempted to not believe things like when people online somehow were like right next to the person and know they were having an emergency, but it has happened to me twice somehow
When i went to a 5sos show last year I recorded almost the whole thing and I’m so glad I did bc I got really cool transitions from songs, interactions, and memories that I definitely would’ve forgotten bc i have a horrible memory
You can’t know any public figure in their totality, but what I WILL say is that I saw Miranda Lambert on an episode of Say Yes to the Dress, and I was floored by how rude and immature she was. She was an actual black hole of charisma and I was not surprised at all when Blake Shelton divorced her. 🤷🏽♂️
Ooh TEA. I'm gonna go look that up immediately bc I love that show and really dislike ML after seeing this video lol