@@asmasam if you did any sort of research you would realize that all of these people have been prosecuted he is not given out one name that was already in court for this thing that had already been caught
@@jewel65for a long time in cycling it was that 99 out of the top 100 were busted for some type of performance enhancing drug. Lance was the 1 and why he was so suspicious.
I think about this often. As much as I am against PEDs, I know I'm also comfortable downing caffeine all day every day to stay on top of my game at work. If your job is to win, I can imagine how easy it is to fall into this
@@cheetoesgal5229 there are worse criminals out there... be real. Other ones are still doping in olympics getting away with it. All the athletes he doped and he himself did not get away with it
The most important aspect is that ALL the sport federations employ people to direct these anti doping tests who have absolutely NO idea about chemistry or biology. The blind lead the blind. Only people like this man know and tell the truth. The others have no idea what they are being asked to do, but since it is a multibillion business ... the wheel turns.
Well they were all doping and on PED’s before lance too. He’s just a famous example that educated the public about the reality of elite level competitive sports
@@laptv2144 you missed the point right. He categorically said I’ve never taken drugs. He’s got sued to fuckery. They all say they never failed a test so if and when they do, they can’t fathom why on earth they’d fail. It’s a safe guard. I kind of feel that some athletes make a living by not grassing too. They’re paid not to tell them source
Nowadays whenever sports commentators say an athlete has "turned back the clock" or "come back quickly from injury" or "came out of nowhere" I assume it's drugs 100%.
I was a runner, weight lifter, and health nut all my adult life. After 20+ years, I decided to try one cycle of testosterone to gain weight. It was unbelievable. In 6 weeks I gained at least 6 pounds of muscle mass. After two hours in the gym, I would go home just because I thought I should, not because I was tired. And the next day? Jump out of bed in the morning, do 8 hours on my feet at factory job, then hit the gym for another two hours. NEVER got tired. NEVER got sore. Everyone I knew commented on my new size within a few weeks. The drugs are crazy!
"Used to be if you hit 30 home runs you were a god. Now you hit 30 home runs and your looking for a job." Jose Canseco - on the impact of performance enhancing substances in MLB.
@@mvpfocus Found him. Who cares if he used your and not you're -- I'm sure he knows the difference. I swear, people use the most petty crap to stroke their ego. It's a youtube comment, not an English paper. -- Edit: I'm not responding to these replies anymore, I simply don't care. I've presented my point here and below, if you disagree, that's fine.
Our college baseball hitting coach played in the minors and pros in the early 2000s-2010s. He would talk about the “use it or lose it” culture-confirming Conte’s take on the rampant usage among athletes, especially in the minors where the pressure is arguably more intense since many players aren’t making a living and every piece of your game is highly scrutinized. He essentially said that steroids never took a player from bad to great, but simply from 60-75% each game to 90%+ across the grueling 162-game schedule.
lol, dude were selling steroids for like 20 years, made millions, served 4 month in jail and now he's anti-doping advocate. That's ridiculous, he knew what he was doing all along, why would anyone believe that he want's athletes to not use drugs instead of finding a loopholes to make them use some drugs without being detected.
Because nobody truely cares. Viewers want superhuman sports achievements and more events per year (than possible normally), advertisers want a clean image, sports players want fame and money, journalists want headlines with records. The secret serves everyone, even if anyone with half a brain sees right through it.
My big brother was a top, competitive athlete for hurdles here in Aus…. Once he got to a certain level and despite being amazing, realised he couldn’t compete with the “big boys” because he wouldn’t use performance enhancing meds etc…. Ironically he is an industrial chemist and could probably make most of the substances they talk about but doesn’t…… uses his skills as a chemical expert for the fire department and saves lives everyday
so much corruption and bias in sports ped testing and penalties. Like Nick Diaz got a 5 year ban for smoking weed, but others fighters got 6 months for cocaine, or even less for actual anabolic postive tests. It`s all about the money, if you`re a big earner, you get a pass.
Nick Diaz didn't get a five year ban for smoking weed. That might've been the stated reason, but the real reason was that he would run his mouth (accurately) to anyone who would listen about the fact that more than half of the fighters on the UFC roster were juicing.
Barry Bonds must have gotten his lawyers to get Conte to sign an NDA, because I'm impressed that in 25 minutes of discussing BALCO's history he didn't mention Bonds a single time despite being BALCO's most prominent U.S. client.
@@ayfray9998 He had no problem namedropping McGwire and Canseco, or Bill Romanowski from the NFL. He could have easily mentioned his most prominent baseball client.
I did PED when i was in my late 20's and early 30's... let me tell you, you become and feel super human. Muscles are constantly full and dense, fat loss is VERY easy with a simple diet, your mood is like another level of confidence, strength is unbelievable. For me, i never experienced bad side effects but everyone is different. PED's take you to another level.
@Tepaneca what are you talking about? I'm in my 40s now and in great health. I still go to the gym regularly to stay in shape. I've been around many guys who used PEDs, and they're all fine. However, the problems begin when PEDs are abused. The euphoric feeling of obtaining a great physique gets in the way and causes bad judgment and overdoing it. A simple cycle here and there aren't going to cause damage like the mainstream portrays. Speaking of that, the mainstream stays completely silent when it comes to the fatal damage pharmaceutical drugs do to people.
@@uzernam3Don’t listen to that guy. You’re right about the abuse part, it’s the same with anything really. I think the main problem with doing gear is that you get used to looking and feeling superhuman, so that makes coming off a real problem. That’s where abuse comes into it. Obviously there are some people that abuse it from the word go, too. TRT is a no brainer for men over 40
@@uzernam3I had the same results I'm 42 and started when I was 35 never went above any dose over 300mg/week. Never had any bad side effects only amazing benefits
The fact that 23 Chinese swimmers tested positive for TMZ and WADA knew about it but still allowed them to compete in Japan tells you all you need to know about the reliability of drug testing and WADA
The chemo drug? Sounds like that would give them such a huge "advantage." I'd more worried about the US cheating than anyone else. Zigler and the US invented doping. Then after the rest of the world caught on and caught up, the US invented the religious crusade cult of anti-doping and imposed that regime on the rest of the world by force. Rules for thee but not for me. Sports would be a lot better, safer and fairer if the athletes were all allowed to do whatever they wanted and whatever it takes to win. It would actually be an even field. The way it is now is entirely political. Americans are clueless. The rest of the world doesn't have some moral taboo about steroids. They're just considered medicine. As it should be.
Entire russian figure skater team medaled in 2022, then the positive doping results came, but IOC decided to "compromise", and instead of disqualifying the team, they just... took away ceremonies... which had American and other clean athletes, all because of controversy of NOT disqualifying russians who JUST had a positive doping test (less than a weak later it turned out most Olympians were officers in russian army, and many celebrated war because OF COURSE). All while russian commentators kept complaining about "Western lies" of imminent invasion.
Let’s not act surprised when in several years later our multi million advertising heroes such as Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and all those super stars appear mentioned in these kind of documentaries
come off it lol. Either it's been pushed under the rug because he is too valuable to Athletics, or he's just been using underectables and timing it well. Yes he's naturally talented, and if everyone was clean he would still be the fastest. Just think about Lance Armstrong
Disappointing but wildly fascinating. I appreciate his transparency. I pray he is actually changed. Feedback for the producer: I had to pause the video at the end with the text several times as it was transitioning quickly. Excellent video overall. Keep it up.
It's hilarious how so many clueless people think that just because an athlete never tested positive, that they are 'clean.' I bet most (or all) of the athletes at the elite level of sport including track and field use some form of anabolics and performance enhancers. At that Olympic level, talent can only get you so far. You need that extra edge to train harder and get faster and stronger. No matter what tests there are out there, these athletes and their support team will find some way to beat it.
I agree with you but also agree with him that the athletes are put in a very very tough position. And it's really too bad that that's how it works and the powers that be won't put forth the effort to seriously keep sports clean and make it so athletes don't have to cheat just to keep up with the other ones who are cheating.
I realised this when I watched the 88 100m documentary. What pissed me off was Carl was so smug after being given Gold as if he hadn’t been doping himself in 88 and 84. They’re all dirty some just get caught.
I knew a Russian doctor who came to the USA before the end of the Cold War and the people who helped him get established here had to have a serious conversation with him to explain that he couldn't simply prescribe steroids to people. He thought it was totally normal, no problem.
it was a new thing nobody really knew about. 10 yars ago you got oxy for no reason like candy and now its a dangerous drug ;P and ofc it is but if you dont have information
@@timopint1125 yeah it was my Dad who told him not to do this on account of EVERYONE in the US knew this was BAD but for him it was Soviet everyday practice.
@@yuvingoonewardene7920 I was too young to have absorbed those kinds of details but my dad said the attitude was really really incompatible. He was specifically a sports medicine doctor and so it was about athletes and performance
@@Joyce-zl4qd true, but he still wont touch certain athletes he’s worked with. Like Barry Bonds, whom he still claims he never gave steroids to. Yet, Bonds tested positive for THG, had a calendar of his steroid use found in the ZMA lab, and did promotional stuff for them.
I don't think 'cheating' has the same moral implications if everyone does it (and by design, everyone does it because the regulations are deliberately not enforced). By taking drugs you're not getting an unfair advantage, you're just levelling the playing field. The IOC WANTS people to take drugs, since they can then get better and better performances. Imagine if world records just stopped being broken and all the athletic performances just got worse. I don't think any worse of a professional athlete for taking PEDs - it's part of their job description.
I agree with this fully. I used to do strongman and in my last comp out of 17 people I placed 5th and the people that beat me I knew 100% used drugs because they told me. It was a cross roads for me, a realization that to continue in that sport I need to do what the masses were doing or not...
As a high level strongman I want to point out that the sport is famously untested. It's not even cheating to use steroids in strongman because there's no rule against it
@@ukestudio3002I don't think you understand how ethics work buddy. First off there's nothing morally wrong about using PEDs especially in strongman where it's allowed. The only thing stopping you is if you're willing to damage your health. Second off, ethics aren't always a right or wrong thing. Taking a life is wrong, but what if it's a soldier taking a life during war to protect the citizens of his own country from dying? Stealing is wrong, but what if someone has been lost in the woods with no food or water and they find an empty cabin with food, is it okay to eat the food so they don't starve to death?
It's sad but you know you won and that is what matters in my opinion. People take these little contests way to seriously, like they will fix their mental health problems when they get 1st place in some arbitrary sport. I used to compete in many things always without cheating and in my opinion the people who invest the most time in something will usually win (if genetics are equal). So, what is even the point? Showing everyone that you had the most time to waste while being born with good genetics? Nowadays I try to put my time into things that actually help others or society. Because it isn't about competing in those cases. Whatever you do, it is always a good thing and no one is measuring his own ego by helping others more (unless they are fucked up in some way).
PED use is more rampant in professional athletics than people care to believe. The only athletes who get caught are the ones who either got careless with their regimen or took PEDs that were unknowingly cut with more detectable substances. When this is your professional career, when you have millions of dollars of sponsorships on the line, when you assume (for good reason) that everyone else is doing it, and when you know there are ways to fool the tests, then it becomes a no-brainer.
This corruption happened for so long that, you have to use it to even the playing field. I don’t even know if EVERYONE stop using it, how long would it takes for athletes to be able to break the world records of those before them that used PEDs. I’m sure it can happened but it will take a LONG time and if that happened, the money will stop flowing in to the sports. It’s just sad man.
@@HARTTG If everyone stopped using drugs the records would not get broken obviously. They would not get broken until the human physique has significally changed, which usually takes a couple of generations.
Or had their protection withdrawn for one reason or another. Kenya just had something like 29 athletes fail testing, but for "some" reason not the top ones... surely they are clean...
@@fh2234 apart from some epigenetics, it takes way more than a couple of generations, and there are always drawbacks to any beneficial change, AND there would need to be environmental pressure affecting procreation for it to happen in the first place
You don't have to answer this but did you know athletes who used PEDs? And were you offered or advised(obliquely or otherwise) by coaches to 'supplement' your training?
A Tyler Hamilton interview on doping inside the Tour de France would be a terrific "How Crime Works" episode. "The Hidden Race" is an amazing expose of how Lance Armstrong (among many other racers) was enabled at every turn to "win" and get away with his lies.
Some people may not like Tyler Hamilton's book because it's sports-specific, (cycling) but it goes into EXTREMELY small detail about what they took, how and when they took it and how they got away with it. Lots of details on how to avoid testing. From not answering the knock on your door, to pretending to be away on vacation when you're physically somewhere else, training and taking PEDs. I guess/assume that cycling is heavy on the EPO while other athletes are heavier on anabolics, but the book is still very applicable to people wanting to understand how this has been a problem so long, and how/why it continues to be a problem. Hopefully it opens people's eyes that the problem hasn't gone away; it's just changed. Some new chemicals, new techniques, loopholes, better management.
If you were at a level high enough to try and make the Olympic team, you should have been wise enough to know the ones who make it are on peds. That is why there is no stopping the usage because you are either out or you are in
Was in a national taekwondo team like 15 years ago, they always told us to just train harder and everything depend on us. Watching this now not sure if I wanna just cry or smash something. I don’t believe they were telling us things so confidently while knowing sh!t about anything. Or they knew but they just lied. And I really believed back then It was purely my failure not achiving great results.
Yeah. I knew about 2 dozen guys personally who were on the beans, as we called it. This was mid 80s at the height of it. They all got huge. When Ben Johnson got stung in Seoul it just killed me...the whole thing, the double standards, the whole circus. I had to decide either take PED or quit. I quit. I had 3 x state champs in decath, and once in 110 hurdles. Age 25. Training age 5. I had aimed to peak at 28-32. I trained as hard as the roid boys but could not ever recover like they could seemingly overnight. Glad I never took PEDs.
problem is that most of them dont have a clue..... the guy 8:36 guy complainung about no epo test....but there was no real epo test before 2002. and since 2008 we can test old test examples. even today we cant offficial ban people for epo because the epo user would win in court.
Hi to Zimbabwe from Pickard, Indiana, US! I think it's neat to hear from people from far away places haha. And, idk, in a discussion about the Olympics, which is all about international competition, one's geographic background has, perhaps, some relevance to the conversation. Opinions on doping seem to vary widely across different cultures.
@@SkyTurnsPurplePhotography He might not be on test/GH but he was likely on stuff to help recovery and aid in training. Not all PEDs are about putting on muscle. Everyone in elite sports of any kind is on some sort of PED. Not everyone is on stupid amounts of them like Liver King to maintain an insane physique.
basically, olympic sports need to be completely redone and overhauled, like FIFA and other big sports competition who grew more and more corrupt over time. and it's all being done on the shoulders of athletes who then have to deal with extreme life complications later on in their lives only to be competitive to even get a paycheck and also, cause they blindly trust their trainers when they are very young. it's just extremely sad...
Since Ben Johnson in the early 90's I had registered that burst/anaerobic athletics was totally compromised and it wasnt fun to watch anymore. I never watched long distances so it wasnt on my radar, but those guys are so toasted its absurb. All aerobic and anaerobic exclusive sports are doped high as kites now. The only events that might not be jacked-to-the-teeth is maybe high jump, pole vault, diving (pool) i dont know what else.... ? The sports where a combination of microphysical movement and elasticity is combined with control appear not to be routinely abused... or they havent found a way to drug it for advantage.
It has been. Every time they catch these guys, testing changes. His comments are out of date. Now, any athlete go competes internationally, gets tested continuously out of competition. I was eligible for testing for 18 months after I retired and got tested at 6 months. The reasons is “People retiring, using drugs, then coming back.” And it sucks when guys like this say “Everyone” is doing it. Because that isn’t true.
@@MaxPower-vf8kt his comments aren't out of date, he talks about the testing out of competition as well. You can also look up the guidelines and see the difference in what they test for in vs out of competition.
I wasn’t even into track and field, until I watched Marion Jones. I participated in gymnastics and seeing her made me want to train harder and keep my spirit up on even the worst days. I was devastated when she admitted to PED use. Even in gymnastics there have been teams that have falsified birth certificates and were found to use diuretics to keep the girls weight down. There’s also been rumors of puberty blockers amongst other things. For the most part, there’s no drug substance in the world that is going to ensure that you don’t fall off the balance beam or maintain your composure on the pommel horse. 😢
@@__baloo__ The thing about massive mistakes like falling off the apparatus in gymnastics is that it can cause a mental block or make you nervous. Falls are a huge deduction in itself. To get back up and keep your composure is harder than you think. Especially with thousands of spectators watching you.
If you can practise 20 hours a week a person on gear can practise 40. They could be half as talented as you and still be as good because they get to practise more.
@@JasonAtlas Many elite gymnasts already practice nearly 40 hours a week. I was in this sport for over a decade. Many teens end up turning to correspondence or homeschooling in order to get more hours in. And again, there is no drug in the world that is going to keep you from falling off equipment or going out of bounds on floor, etc. I’m not saying drugs haven’t been used, but in the case of gymnastics it doesn’t give you much of an edge. Also, the cheating is mainly with false birth certificates from communist countries such as North Korea and China.
@@dirkjackson8939 How about that 40 year old NBA dude who still looks like one of the most athletic players on the planet. Just good genes they say lol.
Jeff novitski took victors garbage bag (which is legal because once your bin is on the street it's forfeited property). Inside the bag had the paperwork and other items related to the use of PEDs
If you liked Blackfish you also like "The Cove." It's pretty intense though. I'm not an animal activist at all, but it's pretty sad but extremely well made.
"You can't even get anywhere near the final of an Olympic 100 meter race without taking something". Let that sink in each and every time you watch the finals of any event. The clean athletes were already sent home in the prelims. It's so obvious especially when athletes like Usain Bolt win a final by such a big margin.
@@CamJames lance armstrong never failed a test in his life. top 15 100meter times have all been annuled (except Bolt's), all Jamaican athletes at the top of the sport has been disqualified at one point or the other (except Bolt) ;)
@@CamJames how was bolt so much better than athletes who were confirmed to be using PEDs and were often more technically and biomechanically efficient with better form then? use ur brain for a second and just think of the consequences for athletics as a whole if a positive PED test for bolt was revealed or a whistleblower revealed proof of it
@@CamJames you must not have listened well to the interview. Marion jones was tested over 1000 times and never tested positive. Athletes and their trainers are one step ahead of the testers. That being said, believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss
Drugs can't grow your legs to the length of Usain Bolt's. They're all using but he has physical gifts that they don't have. Just like Michael Phelps, the limb length and turnover make a massive advantage.
The first postion that tested clean in Lance aramtongs famous race was position 29(they probably just cycles their roads better). My point is every modern sport is a sport infested with roads, probably about 80% of baseball, hockey, football, soccer, Olympic contestants, and 99% of ufc, boxers, bodybuilders, strongman. Natty sports don't exist. It's part of the game now, no harm no foul. It should just be legal and basically is with trt clinics
Yes. The obvious canned answer of 'embarrassing my family is the worst part' is where you know he's just finding a safer place to practice. We've heard that answer from so many scandal ridden people over the years. No actual regret or contrition. Just a sympathy play. I don't really care honestly. I think most people are hypocrites about this subject. Does anyone really think a guy like Babe Ruth wouldn't have used if he could have? We need to be realistic about it. The makers will always be a step ahead of the testing. Stop all the selective shaming and make real policy that helps athletes and sports be honest.
Great video, great character to hear from, a fascinating story. I remember following the Marion Jones (now Jones-Thompson) story when it happened, back when I was a kid. I remember hearing about her painful background and her "why" never really grokked for me, but it makes a lot more sense when you get the feeling from Victor Conte that the stuff was apparently everywhere and used by everyone. Since you solicited suggestions at the end: I'd like to hear from former hate-sellers. Someone who ran a troll farm, a partisan talkshow, website, magazine, social media, et cetera and made money exploiting people's eagerness to have their prejudices reinforced and mirrored.
I'm really glad this was published because there are so many people who believe that certain big-name track athletes are clean. I saw another video with Conte that was much shorter. He talked about certain track athletes posting suspicious times at events based on what he knew about the industry. There were so many nay-sayers in the comments. When I contrast that video to this one, this one has way more detail, and he drops a ton of insider knowledge. I see way fewer comments from anyone trying to deny what he's saying, and that's a testament to the thoroughness and detail of this piece.
I agree. And it's not just sprinters! Middle and long distance runners do it too. Maybe they are heavier on the EPO and lighter on anabolics, with a focus on improved recovery, but I still think MOST top endurance athletes are taking something.
He's completely transparent about who he was/is and what he did. Remorse is always optional. At least he's being transparent about what he and others were doing, unlike most elite athletes, coaches and athletic organizations who lie about being clean while doping to the gills.
Darrell Robinson admitted to selling hgh to flojo and they had no testing method for it back then so that's how you explain her records. Some how, there are still people out here naive enough to think she was clean and her records are legit.
Right??? I remember watching all the ball players testify......sosa forgot how to speak English lol. Bonds said no thanks I'm not going. Mac had his mother goose glasses.
Now he is the head of Snacs and is giving boxers PEDs and helping them pass the test some of the best boxers are under his banner. Guys like Terrance Crawford and Devin Haney
It really doesn't help with anything since this is outdated by 20 years and doesn't cover any specifics. They describe it in enough details to be educational but not enough for you to be able to recreate it in any way. I know you are most likely joking but with those videos some people seriously say that they they teach people how to start a criminal enterprise or something. If it's being discussed on CZcams it means that none of those methods work any longer.
I remember one athlete said that taking something to help you improve your ability and to recover faster was worth it even if you got caught the benefits outweigh the consequences. That isn't exactly how he said it but that's what he said
The Olympic adds wells just the extra irony that this video needed. Athletes promoting products after he just said that corporations sweep the drug testing under the rug so they don't look bad. Thanks capital one!!
Absolutely taking the piss now. "Peak Pantani would need an e-bike to follow him" said my roommate watching todays stage (stage 19) 🤣. 3:30 minutes faster on the final climb than riders in 1993 doped to their gills with EPO. All down to superior diets, training and material, obviously🤡. I wouldn't mind as much if he only did this at the TDF. But this year, this guy has literally been demolishing everyone from march until now, in classics and in Grand Tours. As you know, that's simply unheard of, which makes this particular version of Pogi incredibly grating. And sure, there are a lot of questions to be had for the peloton in general, given everyone goes faster than ever. But since none of them has ridden a Giro before relegating everyone to amateurs whilst beating numerous climbing records at the Tour showing no signs of Giro-fatigue, than that riders performances should be questioned first.
Yeah absolutely not loving the tour right now and i was on the side of believing the new tech/nutrition/carb intake meta. The way he easily hounded vingegaard while remaining seated a few stages ago reminded me of how lance looked back then. Way too comfortable while outputting way too much power. Freaky to watch. Like a ghost floating uphill.
you pretty much said what I said word for word to a friend of mines yesterday. Smashed the Giro and just breezing in the tour. And you crushed the record of a guy who was glowing when he set his record. Pog seems like a good guy and I don’t have any hate towards him but damn…
Very informative video but there's a 0% chance the athletes he's with today are clean. There is no reason to have him on your team unless you wanna dope. What purpose does he serve? You can have a nutritionist to get the best diet possible so he offers nothing for a clean athlete. Funny how he says the tests were easy to pass but now he's clean VADA are very strict and hard to pass 😂😂, yeah right...
@@growtocycle6992 He said he’s a changes man and has clean athletes now… Implying that he’s not helping them dope…. That’s basically saying he’s not providing them gear even if he is.
I used to play amateur rugby.. Once I was prescribed a fairly strong cycle of cortisone for an allergy problem and I didn’t know it was considered a PED. I started to realize when I still had quite a lot of energy at the end of a game or a training, while normally I was somewhere between tired and completely spent. While it lasted, it was great 😂
Not sure why that's hard to wrap your head around. If he was a millionaire already and it wasn't making him more millions then it must have been a passion for him. Seeing how good your stuff is and beating everyone else's system is rewarding in of itself.
I ran D1 Track and Field, more people were using than were not. I personally stayed away as i didnt care about the sport enough to dope. I was naturally talented and just quit because i had no love for completing.
the difference. in America, its not state sponsored. The individual athletes source and do it themselves. At worst in US, sports-affiliated bodies turn a blind eye to it, but they don't actively sponsor it.
@@a.j.mafolasire3346 The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) says U.S. agency USADA broke the global code by letting several athletes it had caught between 2011 and 2014 violating drugs rules go undercover and keep on competing without prosecution in exchange for information on other violators.
Thank you for confirming what people have been suspected for about four decades. Now, nobody can deny the reality of performance and highly mediated sports.
Marion Jones was the first celebrity I ever met, I grew up in Raleigh and she was living in Chapel Hill at the time, she was really nice. I remember being so sad when it came out that she had been using performance enhancing drugs.
@@seensay2132very true. Even after she went to prison, she went on Oprah to tell "the truth". Even then she said she was under the impression of getting flaxseed oil instead of peds. Not only is she a cheat, but also a continuous liar
No wonder the Australian swimming coach said it's humanly not possible for Pan Zenle to broke the word record, because he knew his swimmers were on drug but got beaten 😂
Not really. Richer countries generally get more medals becuase they have better access to sport. More people have access to a wider range of sport and coaching from a young age. They also have less financial pressure, allowing them to focus on sport and there’s greater financial support available for budding athletes. The most successful countries also have high populations, giving them a larger pool of athletes and a greater possibility of finding a world champion. India is an odd one out as their sporting interests lie outside of olympic sports (and is a relatively poor country). Great Britain outperforms relative to its population because it has a very focused funding program for olympic sports Smaller countries that have focused all their resources on a single sport have done very well but they’re not going to win medals outside of that sport. Jamaica in springting and Kenya in long distance for example.
I was in post rehab group sessions with Patrick Arnold. I had no idea who he was at the time, although the lady running the meetings hinted at his notoriety. He was a calm reserved fellow, I don't remember much, other than when he was in jail, it was scary and there was some inmate nicknamed Bean dip who for obvious reasons was intimidating. I also remember outside the meetings, he talked about making his own drugs. I don't mean drug drugs, I just mean like designer energy enhancers and stuff like that. But anyway, I found out later who he was and was like holy crap, I was in post rehab meetings with that guy! I know I know, 'what a story Mark'. But obviously I was very surprised to learn that I had been in post rehab meetings with THE chemist who had designed the clear.
It’s funny Lance Armstrong is the scapegoat of cheaters but it wasn’t just him. It was completely ubiquitous in road cycling. Of the 7 years he won Tour de France 20 out of 21 of his competitors were also found guilty of doping at some point in their careers. Yeah. It was THAT bad
@@silvesta5027 not sure if you are related to Lance, and I understand that he is doing an apology tour, but he bullied, pressured, and weaponized his power to the detriment of many people. That massage therapist attempted suicide based on what he did to her. Yeah, I’m all out of sympathy for Lance…
If U are a high-performance athlete in any sport then the chances of U doing steroids in ur career is almost 💯, We know it, they know it, and they know that we know it, But hey they entertain us and exceed the realm of possibility in our minds👏🏽🤷🏽♂️ And just to be clear, Taking steroids will NOT make u compete in the highest level overnight, These athletes are special and dedicate years of their lives to perfecting their craft, Nothing but respect for them👏🏽💚
cut the crap. they are enhanced..they cannot perform at the highest level without the juice...being talented is cool but training season without using steroids is a waste of time when the competition are all juiced up monsters...
@@cosmicwisdom999 An athlete so talented that is winning their whole life without the need for steroids won't suddenly take the risk to start using steroids when they can win without them.
Imagine being a natural athlete at his peak performance. For one, you won't be able to compete against the top junkies. And even worse, people will just assume you are a junkie yourself.
It's even worst than that. You'll suffer twice or triple because those junkie freaks never get tired, they recovered twice as fast, and get 5x the gains you get for each training they do.
As a beginner natural strenght athlete it surprises me that some people think the olympic athletes don't use anabolycs and PEDs, something that is obvious to anyone in any sports/athletic fields
It’s funny you say this, I feel like you can understand these things better if you train. I’ve trained so much, monitored my diet and sleep strictly. And my PB in the 100m is 10.11 I haven’t ran faster than that, normally I run 10.3s. And you mean to tell me someone ran 9.58 clean, when Ben Johnson got caught in 88 using anabolics, even the second fastest men: Yohan Blake, and Tyson who ran 9.69 where caught doping. Bolt is just protected. The human body has limitations. Bolt ran 10.03 one year and comes back running 9.69. It’s in peoples eyes is just they don’t want to listen I can’t even train more than 4x a week, otherwise I experience so much body pain. Sprinting is taxing for the body and these people train all year round 6 times a week alongside competing. Tells you all you need to know 😊
Kersee was the trainer of Flo Jo, Jackie Joiner Kersee and is the trainer of Sydney McLaughlin. All three have set World Records that may never be broken. However I would not be surprised if Sydney McLaughlin breaks her WR for the 5th. time during the Paris Olympics. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
likely has excess growth hormone. He has that protruding lower jaw that Lebron and Steph also now have. I can't speculate if that's from natural growth hormone secreting tumor or external substances. I just know im relatively confident this is an individual who as an adult was frequently exposed to excess growth hormone
@@a.j.mafolasire3346 I see some of those same jaw forms in the Chinese athletes. Phelps may have gotten HGH as a teenager...but until you have proof it is just throwing mud at people
That's what they tell the public to keep them happy. Obviously, most people are against drugs and don't want to believe their favorite athletes are dirty
I never watch the tour of anything. At least the racing stuff can be ultimately be 70% on the machine. The tour is 95% human effort. No way can you keep expanding the tour and you can complete the stages without drugs.
Javier Sotomayor, the high jump world record holder, was training im Uruguay for months before breaking the WR... My former trainer competed against him at the Darwin Pinyeirúa competition. Sotomayor was good but not top world class good. In less that 2 years he went from 2.20m to 2.45m... In Uruguay they did not do drug tests at that time
That's why that Aussie swim coach said it was humanly impossible for Pan Zhanle to have beaten that field in the mens 100 metres free by that much. Did he know the extent of doping going on? And Pan never ended up with a purple face.
Oh I love this, he's dropping names and they're not censoring or editing it out
PERIOD
Because it’s propaganda from WADA and CHINADA in hope of stopping USA from currently investigating them.
When you drop names under police interrogation you don't mind dropping them 20 years later in an interview 😂
@@asmasam if you did any sort of research you would realize that all of these people have been prosecuted he is not given out one name that was already in court for this thing that had already been caught
It all came out in a federal indictment already
"You use or you lose" totally grounded me.
When Lance Armstrong got busted 99% of riders were doping as well.
@@jewel65for a long time in cycling it was that 99 out of the top 100 were busted for some type of performance enhancing drug. Lance was the 1 and why he was so suspicious.
I think about this often. As much as I am against PEDs, I know I'm also comfortable downing caffeine all day every day to stay on top of my game at work. If your job is to win, I can imagine how easy it is to fall into this
@@animal_cookieeven coffe addiction is worse than weed addiction cuz its gets you withdrawal and headaches and everything
@@animal_cookie its just coffee bro lol, steroids unchecked will literally grow your heart and may kill you
Gotta respect someone that just comes out and spills all the beans.
This is more interesting than I thought it would be.
true all olypics athlets are on gear tho but i hope everyone knows this
I find ZILCH to respect about a person who engaged in doping world-class athletes.
It's dishonesty, pure and simple.
@@cheetoesgal5229 every top athlet is on gear
@@cheetoesgal5229 there are worse criminals out there... be real.
Other ones are still doping in olympics getting away with it.
All the athletes he doped and he himself did not get away with it
Respect? Sigh…….. you kids and the world we live in now I can’t even blame you for that comment cuz it’s all you know
All athletes now say “I’ve never failed a drugs test” not “ I don’t take drugs”. It’s the Lance Armstrong effect
The most important aspect is that ALL the sport federations employ people to direct these anti doping tests who have absolutely NO idea about chemistry or biology. The blind lead the blind.
Only people like this man know and tell the truth.
The others have no idea what they are being asked to do, but since it is a multibillion business ... the wheel turns.
Well they were all doping and on PED’s before lance too. He’s just a famous example that educated the public about the reality of elite level competitive sports
Exactly and their still millionaires despite penalties etc...
@@laptv2144 you missed the point right. He categorically said I’ve never taken drugs. He’s got sued to fuckery. They all say they never failed a test so if and when they do, they can’t fathom why on earth they’d fail. It’s a safe guard. I kind of feel that some athletes make a living by not grassing too. They’re paid not to tell them source
Brock lesnar video
Awesome series. Whoever has been finding these fascinating, straight talking individuals has been doing a fantastic job.
I thought they where actor ? It not scriptd ? Dammm
Find? Conte was famous.
It's usually someone who has a book or public speaking tour to promote.
@@drhall343 True, or a lot of times they have their own popular CZcams channel.
They are all bullshitters
Nowadays whenever sports commentators say an athlete has "turned back the clock" or "come back quickly from injury" or "came out of nowhere" I assume it's drugs 100%.
If you’re a professional athlete you’re using PEDs, period.
Good point!
I love LeBron, but I think about it with him constantly lol
@@tluvsbeauty1lmao anyone who believes LeBron is natural is just dumb
Lebron James he’s been exposed before but people don’t believe it. He’s an example of an athlete who is blatantly using drugs people just don’t see it
I was a runner, weight lifter, and health nut all my adult life. After 20+ years, I decided to try one cycle of testosterone to gain weight. It was unbelievable. In 6 weeks I gained at least 6 pounds of muscle mass. After two hours in the gym, I would go home just because I thought I should, not because I was tired. And the next day? Jump out of bed in the morning, do 8 hours on my feet at factory job, then hit the gym for another two hours. NEVER got tired. NEVER got sore. Everyone I knew commented on my new size within a few weeks. The drugs are crazy!
How much testosterone where you doing per week?
@@timmybangs4711 Bro wants recommendations 💀😭.
@@timmybangs4711they have doctors who will test u, so u only get wat u need
@@timmybangs4711 most likely TRT
Tiny nuts from them. It Sucks you gotta cheat your way to looking loke your really healthy
"Used to be if you hit 30 home runs you were a god. Now you hit 30 home runs and your looking for a job." Jose Canseco - on the impact of performance enhancing substances in MLB.
_you're_
30 homers is still good. What are you talking about?
@@mvpfocus Found him. Who cares if he used your and not you're -- I'm sure he knows the difference. I swear, people use the most petty crap to stroke their ego. It's a youtube comment, not an English paper.
-- Edit: I'm not responding to these replies anymore, I simply don't care. I've presented my point here and below, if you disagree, that's fine.
PED’s were way more rampant in the early days, like all of the 1900s. This isnt true for baseball?
Yup, same in fighting. If you can't throw HEAT for a half hour, you have 0 chance of getting near any belt.
Our college baseball hitting coach played in the minors and pros in the early 2000s-2010s. He would talk about the “use it or lose it” culture-confirming Conte’s take on the rampant usage among athletes, especially in the minors where the pressure is arguably more intense since many players aren’t making a living and every piece of your game is highly scrutinized. He essentially said that steroids never took a player from bad to great, but simply from 60-75% each game to 90%+ across the grueling 162-game schedule.
see also Dorian Yates' take on recreational vs competition PED usage
This man is responsible for the best homerun era in baseball history 😂😂😂
Ppl don’t even know who’s talking rn😂😂😂💯
@@tremitchell6024barry bonds ?
And yet, look at what Aaron Judge is doing and nobody is even hinting that he might not be clean.
@@kegangravesVictor said he never gave Barry steroids
Not him per se, as everyone was and still is on drugs
lol, dude were selling steroids for like 20 years, made millions, served 4 month in jail and now he's anti-doping advocate. That's ridiculous, he knew what he was doing all along, why would anyone believe that he want's athletes to not use drugs instead of finding a loopholes to make them use some drugs without being detected.
Because nobody truely cares. Viewers want superhuman sports achievements and more events per year (than possible normally), advertisers want a clean image, sports players want fame and money, journalists want headlines with records.
The secret serves everyone, even if anyone with half a brain sees right through it.
That's insane he only got 4 months
@@user-mu2mp8ll6csounds like he got a little vacation lol
He just followed the money
Because he’s know for drugs so he can’t sell them anymore without being immediately caught. So now he makes money from interviews and such things.
My big brother was a top, competitive athlete for hurdles here in Aus…. Once he got to a certain level and despite being amazing, realised he couldn’t compete with the “big boys” because he wouldn’t use performance enhancing meds etc…. Ironically he is an industrial chemist and could probably make most of the substances they talk about but doesn’t…… uses his skills as a chemical expert for the fire department and saves lives everyday
HONEST & TRUSTWORTHY GUY.. 🙏🏾🙏🏾💯💯
That's very respectable of your brother and I love that you are proud of him (it sounds like you are so pardon me making an assumption).
0:55 Patrick Arnold produces ketone esters for therapeutic use
so much corruption and bias in sports ped testing and penalties. Like Nick Diaz got a 5 year ban for smoking weed, but others fighters got 6 months for cocaine, or even less for actual anabolic postive tests. It`s all about the money, if you`re a big earner, you get a pass.
i think they saw his CTE flaring up and dont wanted to deal with the shitstorm hit the fan when the media reports about his cognitive abilities fail..
@@Nitroat-xo4tj bs
Well said just like John Higgins
Nick Diaz didn't get a five year ban for smoking weed. That might've been the stated reason, but the real reason was that he would run his mouth (accurately) to anyone who would listen about the fact that more than half of the fighters on the UFC roster were juicing.
@@mcq11705stuff that’s made up for 1000
Barry Bonds must have gotten his lawyers to get Conte to sign an NDA, because I'm impressed that in 25 minutes of discussing BALCO's history he didn't mention Bonds a single time despite being BALCO's most prominent U.S. client.
This was Olympic specific otherwise Bond would have for sure been mentioned.
@@ayfray9998 He had no problem namedropping McGwire and Canseco, or Bill Romanowski from the NFL. He could have easily mentioned his most prominent baseball client.
Bonds and his GIGANTIC and enormous Cranium were not mentioned 😅
I wonder if “the cream” was OTC, how much would it be..??
16:20: Pay better attention. He's depicted with Conte here.
I did PED when i was in my late 20's and early 30's... let me tell you, you become and feel super human. Muscles are constantly full and dense, fat loss is VERY easy with a simple diet, your mood is like another level of confidence, strength is unbelievable. For me, i never experienced bad side effects but everyone is different. PED's take you to another level.
Was it worth it to not make it to 50?
@Tepaneca what are you talking about? I'm in my 40s now and in great health. I still go to the gym regularly to stay in shape. I've been around many guys who used PEDs, and they're all fine. However, the problems begin when PEDs are abused. The euphoric feeling of obtaining a great physique gets in the way and causes bad judgment and overdoing it. A simple cycle here and there aren't going to cause damage like the mainstream portrays. Speaking of that, the mainstream stays completely silent when it comes to the fatal damage pharmaceutical drugs do to people.
@@uzernam3Don’t listen to that guy. You’re right about the abuse part, it’s the same with anything really. I think the main problem with doing gear is that you get used to looking and feeling superhuman, so that makes coming off a real problem. That’s where abuse comes into it. Obviously there are some people that abuse it from the word go, too. TRT is a no brainer for men over 40
^^^ please for the love of chrost don't listen to these people😂 run far away from their advice
@@uzernam3I had the same results I'm 42 and started when I was 35 never went above any dose over 300mg/week. Never had any bad side effects only amazing benefits
The fact that 23 Chinese swimmers tested positive for TMZ and WADA knew about it but still allowed them to compete in Japan tells you all you need to know about the reliability of drug testing and WADA
The chemo drug? Sounds like that would give them such a huge "advantage." I'd more worried about the US cheating than anyone else. Zigler and the US invented doping. Then after the rest of the world caught on and caught up, the US invented the religious crusade cult of anti-doping and imposed that regime on the rest of the world by force. Rules for thee but not for me. Sports would be a lot better, safer and fairer if the athletes were all allowed to do whatever they wanted and whatever it takes to win. It would actually be an even field. The way it is now is entirely political. Americans are clueless. The rest of the world doesn't have some moral taboo about steroids. They're just considered medicine. As it should be.
Not the testing abilities but of the WADA. They got paid and told to keep it hush hush. Simply as that.
Wow 😮 really?
Entire russian figure skater team medaled in 2022, then the positive doping results came, but IOC decided to "compromise", and instead of disqualifying the team, they just... took away ceremonies... which had American and other clean athletes, all because of controversy of NOT disqualifying russians who JUST had a positive doping test (less than a weak later it turned out most Olympians were officers in russian army, and many celebrated war because OF COURSE). All while russian commentators kept complaining about "Western lies" of imminent invasion.
The fact that you start a post stating facts is all you need to know about the analysis behind a situation
Let’s not act surprised when in several years later our multi million advertising heroes such as Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and all those super stars appear mentioned in these kind of documentaries
Bolt is naturally talented so don’t hold your breath waiting to hear he was taking any drugs
come off it lol. Either it's been pushed under the rug because he is too valuable to Athletics, or he's just been using underectables and timing it well. Yes he's naturally talented, and if everyone was clean he would still be the fastest. Just think about Lance Armstrong
the guy was obviously juiced
@ja9613 he easily beat every other competitor, and every other one of his competitors has tested positive for PEDs.
No heroes, no pedestals. Just enjoy the show.
Disappointing but wildly fascinating. I appreciate his transparency. I pray he is actually changed.
Feedback for the producer: I had to pause the video at the end with the text several times as it was transitioning quickly.
Excellent video overall. Keep it up.
Lmfao he's still doing the same thing just different sports.
I know that he's a big name in boxing now not sure what else hes involved in though
He's not the one that needs to change, the sport is .Everyone is on drugs, he's just the one that got caught
It's hilarious how so many clueless people think that just because an athlete never tested positive, that they are 'clean.' I bet most (or all) of the athletes at the elite level of sport including track and field use some form of anabolics and performance enhancers. At that Olympic level, talent can only get you so far. You need that extra edge to train harder and get faster and stronger. No matter what tests there are out there, these athletes and their support team will find some way to beat it.
Amen!
Yeah training camp in the wilderness off grid etc means few months juicing and building muscle and strength in peace.
I agree with you but also agree with him that the athletes are put in a very very tough position. And it's really too bad that that's how it works and the powers that be won't put forth the effort to seriously keep sports clean and make it so athletes don't have to cheat just to keep up with the other ones who are cheating.
Facts. 👊🏽💜
I realised this when I watched the 88 100m documentary. What pissed me off was Carl was so smug after being given Gold as if he hadn’t been doping himself in 88 and 84.
They’re all dirty some just get caught.
I knew a Russian doctor who came to the USA before the end of the Cold War and the people who helped him get established here had to have a serious conversation with him to explain that he couldn't simply prescribe steroids to people. He thought it was totally normal, no problem.
They told him to set up front lab and sell the steroids one the side...you know, the American way 😉
it was a new thing nobody really knew about. 10 yars ago you got oxy for no reason like candy and now its a dangerous drug ;P and ofc it is but if you dont have information
@@timopint1125 yeah it was my Dad who told him not to do this on account of EVERYONE in the US knew this was BAD but for him it was Soviet everyday practice.
What type of steroids was he prescribing? Can’t be anabolic steroids.
@@yuvingoonewardene7920 I was too young to have absorbed those kinds of details but my dad said the attitude was really really incompatible. He was specifically a sports medicine doctor and so it was about athletes and performance
Name-dropping your clients is crazy.
They are already known now anyway...this is from the early 90s thru 2000s
No, not in this context it isnt😂
A lot of the people he’s mentioned were already known about
@@Joyce-zl4qd true, but he still wont touch certain athletes he’s worked with. Like Barry Bonds, whom he still claims he never gave steroids to. Yet, Bonds tested positive for THG, had a calendar of his steroid use found in the ZMA lab, and did promotional stuff for them.
Did the athletes he name dropped have their medals taken from them?
The IOC is so dirty, even if they knew they would look the other way - if paid enough.
It’s a very wealthy organisation.
no way to put the toothpaste back into the tube now. Way too late for that...
That's why I don't watch(or care) about the Olympics any more. The only winners are the cheaters that don't get caught.
Read the book “Lords of the Rings” about the IOC. Thoroughly corrupted organisation.
"My roided up guy beats your roided up guy"- Bill Burr.
So basically any athlete can be cheating, you can no longer trust any athlete no matter how famous and loved they are..
I don't think 'cheating' has the same moral implications if everyone does it (and by design, everyone does it because the regulations are deliberately not enforced). By taking drugs you're not getting an unfair advantage, you're just levelling the playing field. The IOC WANTS people to take drugs, since they can then get better and better performances. Imagine if world records just stopped being broken and all the athletic performances just got worse.
I don't think any worse of a professional athlete for taking PEDs - it's part of their job description.
@@user-mt8bl7yx7qyou can't talk about the lack of moral implications while the only defense you have is "everyone else is doing it"
I imagine how hard it would be to compete completely clean, naturally and go up against dopers.
@@nightreader1264 lets say wr for marathon is 2:00:35, without doping would be 2:05:00 +
Unfair
Duh…
I agree with this fully. I used to do strongman and in my last comp out of 17 people I placed 5th and the people that beat me I knew 100% used drugs because they told me. It was a cross roads for me, a realization that to continue in that sport I need to do what the masses were doing or not...
Not ..no crossroads about it. Cannot cherry pick your ethics.
As a high level strongman I want to point out that the sport is famously untested. It's not even cheating to use steroids in strongman because there's no rule against it
@@ukestudio3002I don't think you understand how ethics work buddy. First off there's nothing morally wrong about using PEDs especially in strongman where it's allowed. The only thing stopping you is if you're willing to damage your health. Second off, ethics aren't always a right or wrong thing. Taking a life is wrong, but what if it's a soldier taking a life during war to protect the citizens of his own country from dying? Stealing is wrong, but what if someone has been lost in the woods with no food or water and they find an empty cabin with food, is it okay to eat the food so they don't starve to death?
It's sad but you know you won and that is what matters in my opinion. People take these little contests way to seriously, like they will fix their mental health problems when they get 1st place in some arbitrary sport. I used to compete in many things always without cheating and in my opinion the people who invest the most time in something will usually win (if genetics are equal). So, what is even the point? Showing everyone that you had the most time to waste while being born with good genetics? Nowadays I try to put my time into things that actually help others or society. Because it isn't about competing in those cases. Whatever you do, it is always a good thing and no one is measuring his own ego by helping others more (unless they are fucked up in some way).
Bro that would be like doing a bodybuilding show and bitching about people using gear. It's untested dude, have to take them to be competitive.
PED use is more rampant in professional athletics than people care to believe. The only athletes who get caught are the ones who either got careless with their regimen or took PEDs that were unknowingly cut with more detectable substances.
When this is your professional career, when you have millions of dollars of sponsorships on the line, when you assume (for good reason) that everyone else is doing it, and when you know there are ways to fool the tests, then it becomes a no-brainer.
Yep. Pretty sad state tbh…
This corruption happened for so long that, you have to use it to even the playing field.
I don’t even know if EVERYONE stop using it, how long would it takes for athletes to be able to break the world records of those before them that used PEDs.
I’m sure it can happened but it will take a LONG time and if that happened, the money will stop flowing in to the sports.
It’s just sad man.
@@HARTTG If everyone stopped using drugs the records would not get broken obviously. They would not get broken until the human physique has significally changed, which usually takes a couple of generations.
Or had their protection withdrawn for one reason or another. Kenya just had something like 29 athletes fail testing, but for "some" reason not the top ones... surely they are clean...
@@fh2234 apart from some epigenetics, it takes way more than a couple of generations, and there are always drawbacks to any beneficial change, AND there would need to be environmental pressure affecting procreation for it to happen in the first place
Here’s another thing u didn’t think of… all the poor saps like me who competed clean and got thrashed Went to the 92 Olympics for kayaking
Respect 🙏
Had to search your name to confirm, pretty cool dude it's a shame competing fairly fucks you over
you can hold your head up hi 👍
Omg ur not even lying I googled u
You don't have to answer this but did you know athletes who used PEDs? And were you offered or advised(obliquely or otherwise) by coaches to 'supplement' your training?
A Tyler Hamilton interview on doping inside the Tour de France would be a terrific "How Crime Works" episode. "The Hidden Race" is an amazing expose of how Lance Armstrong (among many other racers) was enabled at every turn to "win" and get away with his lies.
Yep its a great book if anyone is interested in learning more
Some people may not like Tyler Hamilton's book because it's sports-specific, (cycling) but it goes into EXTREMELY small detail about what they took, how and when they took it and how they got away with it. Lots of details on how to avoid testing. From not answering the knock on your door, to pretending to be away on vacation when you're physically somewhere else, training and taking PEDs.
I guess/assume that cycling is heavy on the EPO while other athletes are heavier on anabolics, but the book is still very applicable to people wanting to understand how this has been a problem so long, and how/why it continues to be a problem.
Hopefully it opens people's eyes that the problem hasn't gone away; it's just changed. Some new chemicals, new techniques, loopholes, better management.
Now i feel stupid for competing clean trying to qualify for Olympics
Same here. Even one of my old training parents got tested positive.
If you were at a level high enough to try and make the Olympic team, you should have been wise enough to know the ones who make it are on peds. That is why there is no stopping the usage because you are either out or you are in
Sleep well, winner
Was in a national taekwondo team like 15 years ago, they always told us to just train harder and everything depend on us. Watching this now not sure if I wanna just cry or smash something. I don’t believe they were telling us things so confidently while knowing sh!t about anything. Or they knew but they just lied. And I really believed back then It was purely my failure not achiving great results.
Yeah. I knew about 2 dozen guys personally who were on the beans, as we called it. This was mid 80s at the height of it. They all got huge. When Ben Johnson got stung in Seoul it just killed me...the whole thing, the double standards, the whole circus. I had to decide either take PED or quit. I quit. I had 3 x state champs in decath, and once in 110 hurdles. Age 25. Training age 5. I had aimed to peak at 28-32. I trained as hard as the roid boys but could not ever recover like they could seemingly overnight. Glad I never took PEDs.
Insider has top notch documentaries all the time. Watching from Zimbabwe 🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼 Keep them comin’
So?
I agree. I was born in Zimbabwe
problem is that most of them dont have a clue..... the guy 8:36 guy complainung about no epo test....but there was no real epo test before 2002. and since 2008 we can test old test examples. even today we cant offficial ban people for epo because the epo user would win in court.
Does the country you come from have any bearing on your opinion of the video?
Hi to Zimbabwe from Pickard, Indiana, US! I think it's neat to hear from people from far away places haha.
And, idk, in a discussion about the Olympics, which is all about international competition, one's geographic background has, perhaps, some relevance to the conversation. Opinions on doping seem to vary widely across different cultures.
Jannik Sinner.... it makes sense now.
Everybody’s on steroids - Nate Diaz
Masvidal is natural - it's easy to tell by his body
@@SkyTurnsPurplePhotography He might not be on test/GH but he was likely on stuff to help recovery and aid in training. Not all PEDs are about putting on muscle. Everyone in elite sports of any kind is on some sort of PED. Not everyone is on stupid amounts of them like Liver King to maintain an insane physique.
My grandma is on steroids
@omarsanchez9709
Cortisone cream is a steroid so yes. Now PEDs are another issue.
Even nate himself popped for anabolics. And look at him.
basically, olympic sports need to be completely redone and overhauled, like FIFA and other big sports competition who grew more and more corrupt over time.
and it's all being done on the shoulders of athletes who then have to deal with extreme life complications later on in their lives only to be competitive to even get a paycheck and also, cause they blindly trust their trainers when they are very young. it's just extremely sad...
Or let's ignore everything. Like nothing happened
Since Ben Johnson in the early 90's I had registered that burst/anaerobic athletics was totally compromised and it wasnt fun to watch anymore. I never watched long distances so it wasnt on my radar, but those guys are so toasted its absurb. All aerobic and anaerobic exclusive sports are doped high as kites now.
The only events that might not be jacked-to-the-teeth is maybe high jump, pole vault, diving (pool) i dont know what else.... ?
The sports where a combination of microphysical movement and elasticity is combined with control appear not to be routinely abused... or they havent found a way to drug it for advantage.
It has been. Every time they catch these guys, testing changes. His comments are out of date. Now, any athlete go competes internationally, gets tested continuously out of competition. I was eligible for testing for 18 months after I retired and got tested at 6 months. The reasons is “People retiring, using drugs, then coming back.” And it sucks when guys like this say “Everyone” is doing it. Because that isn’t true.
@@MaxPower-vf8kt his comments aren't out of date, he talks about the testing out of competition as well. You can also look up the guidelines and see the difference in what they test for in vs out of competition.
wait till u find out about the UCI😂
I wasn’t even into track and field, until I watched Marion Jones. I participated in gymnastics and seeing her made me want to train harder and keep my spirit up on even the worst days. I was devastated when she admitted to PED use. Even in gymnastics there have been teams that have falsified birth certificates and were found to use diuretics to keep the girls weight down. There’s also been rumors of puberty blockers amongst other things. For the most part, there’s no drug substance in the world that is going to ensure that you don’t fall off the balance beam or maintain your composure on the pommel horse. 😢
true, nothing that ensures you dont fall off, but plenty to ensure that if you fall off, you can get right back up much much faster than naturally.
@@__baloo__
The thing about massive mistakes like falling off the apparatus in gymnastics is that it can cause a mental block or make you nervous. Falls are a huge deduction in itself. To get back up and keep your composure is harder than you think. Especially with thousands of spectators watching you.
If you can practise 20 hours a week a person on gear can practise 40. They could be half as talented as you and still be as good because they get to practise more.
FFS it doesn't ensure you don't fall off , it only ensures you train like The Terminator ,NON STOP
@@JasonAtlas
Many elite gymnasts already practice nearly 40 hours a week. I was in this sport for over a decade. Many teens end up turning to correspondence or homeschooling in order to get more hours in. And again, there is no drug in the world that is going to keep you from falling off equipment or going out of bounds on floor, etc. I’m not saying drugs haven’t been used, but in the case of gymnastics it doesn’t give you much of an edge. Also, the cheating is mainly with false birth certificates from communist countries such as North Korea and China.
Great interview! Just in time for the Paris Olympics 🇫🇷
I was always amazed how some athletes acted super human and now I know why.
It's not just high profile athletes anymore. It's also in the gym or sports club. Everywhere.
Does the name Usain Bolt come to mind?
@@dirkjackson8939 How about that 40 year old NBA dude who still looks like one of the most athletic players on the planet. Just good genes they say lol.
I don't think Usain was, some people are fast some aren't
@@tekno7020Oh sweet summer child
I highly reccomend the podcast American Scandal, the BALCO season is fantastic for anyone who is interested in more details!! Great video
How did he make money when he said he didn't charge the athletes?
Thanks for the recommendation!
They got bloody Conti? Impressive guys
Right! I gasped
They?
@@I_Am_Your_Problemyes, they - Business Insider
What that
Jeff novitski took victors garbage bag (which is legal because once your bin is on the street it's forfeited property). Inside the bag had the paperwork and other items related to the use of PEDs
Watch Icarus on Netflix . 10/10 documentary
netflix and disney are garbage
eye-opening doc. Completely unrelated topic but Blackfish is also excellent.
I get it… Icarus is a clever title
garbage.
If you liked Blackfish you also like "The Cove." It's pretty intense though. I'm not an animal activist at all, but it's pretty sad but extremely well made.
"Project team leader."😂😂😂😭😭😭💀
They should play this as a commercial during the Paris olympics that would be fun
@peteclarke That sounds like something John Oliver would do.
I agree. It may make some people uncomfortable. 😅😅😅
@@celestialnubianJohn Oliver needs to stop ignoring Iran
"You can't even get anywhere near the final of an Olympic 100 meter race without taking something". Let that sink in each and every time you watch the finals of any event. The clean athletes were already sent home in the prelims. It's so obvious especially when athletes like Usain Bolt win a final by such a big margin.
this is a wild accusation to randomly throw at an athlete that has never failed a test in his life.
@@CamJames lance armstrong never failed a test in his life. top 15 100meter times have all been annuled (except Bolt's), all Jamaican athletes at the top of the sport has been disqualified at one point or the other (except Bolt) ;)
@@CamJames how was bolt so much better than athletes who were confirmed to be using PEDs and were often more technically and biomechanically efficient with better form then? use ur brain for a second and just think of the consequences for athletics as a whole if a positive PED test for bolt was revealed or a whistleblower revealed proof of it
@@CamJames you must not have listened well to the interview. Marion jones was tested over 1000 times and never tested positive. Athletes and their trainers are one step ahead of the testers. That being said, believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss
Drugs can't grow your legs to the length of Usain Bolt's. They're all using but he has physical gifts that they don't have. Just like Michael Phelps, the limb length and turnover make a massive advantage.
Fact correction: EPO is short for erythropoietin. It is produced by kidney, not bone marrow.
It's amazing that people like this exist. He's still successful, in the same industry no less.
Doesn’t feel like this guy has enough regrets. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s still working this space.
The first postion that tested clean in Lance aramtongs famous race was position 29(they probably just cycles their roads better). My point is every modern sport is a sport infested with roads, probably about 80% of baseball, hockey, football, soccer, Olympic contestants, and 99% of ufc, boxers, bodybuilders, strongman. Natty sports don't exist. It's part of the game now, no harm no foul. It should just be legal and basically is with trt clinics
Dollars😁😁😁😁
Yes. The obvious canned answer of 'embarrassing my family is the worst part' is where you know he's just finding a safer place to practice. We've heard that answer from so many scandal ridden people over the years. No actual regret or contrition. Just a sympathy play. I don't really care honestly. I think most people are hypocrites about this subject. Does anyone really think a guy like Babe Ruth wouldn't have used if he could have? We need to be realistic about it. The makers will always be a step ahead of the testing. Stop all the selective shaming and make real policy that helps athletes and sports be honest.
It's ironic that I got an ad featuring an Olympic athlete...
Olympics trials and Olympics are coming up and being promoted. That’s why. Not as much ironic as it is strategic
They use keyword searches and then serve impressions based on the videos SEO listings.
Is it yalls first time on youtube or what
Perfect timing 👌 Professional sports will never be clean. Tdf, Olympics, world champs athletics.
Great video, great character to hear from, a fascinating story. I remember following the Marion Jones (now Jones-Thompson) story when it happened, back when I was a kid. I remember hearing about her painful background and her "why" never really grokked for me, but it makes a lot more sense when you get the feeling from Victor Conte that the stuff was apparently everywhere and used by everyone.
Since you solicited suggestions at the end: I'd like to hear from former hate-sellers. Someone who ran a troll farm, a partisan talkshow, website, magazine, social media, et cetera and made money exploiting people's eagerness to have their prejudices reinforced and mirrored.
I hope they see your suggestion, I reaaaaaally wanna know
All top athletes still do this and you cant convince me otherwise.
Close minded
@@Artemis-v8i Nope.
I wouldn't blanket statement
@@latinsizer You cant be one of the very best if you dont use dope and it has been like this for decades, only the substances they use change.
@@myboysd5772Don't let the sheep's who praise Olympics see this, same thing as the people who believe WWE is real.
I'm really glad this was published because there are so many people who believe that certain big-name track athletes are clean. I saw another video with Conte that was much shorter. He talked about certain track athletes posting suspicious times at events based on what he knew about the industry. There were so many nay-sayers in the comments. When I contrast that video to this one, this one has way more detail, and he drops a ton of insider knowledge. I see way fewer comments from anyone trying to deny what he's saying, and that's a testament to the thoroughness and detail of this piece.
I agree. And it's not just sprinters! Middle and long distance runners do it too. Maybe they are heavier on the EPO and lighter on anabolics, with a focus on improved recovery, but I still think MOST top endurance athletes are taking something.
This guy seems as repentant as a fox in a hen house.
Listen to what he is actually saying.
what does he have to repent for? its sport
Thought the same thing😂😂
He's completely transparent about who he was/is and what he did. Remorse is always optional. At least he's being transparent about what he and others were doing, unlike most elite athletes, coaches and athletic organizations who lie about being clean while doping to the gills.
@@workingclassrunnerexactly! At least this guy is being real about the type of person he is.
sports figures still work with him and/or his "team of nutritionists" even through all of this.
I mean he has been proven to get results 😅
Well yeah, he produces undetectable strategies.
That's because everyone is on gear. He's just the one who got caught
FloJo was def on some superhuman cocktail 😂 that WR speaks for itself bruh
She just eats more oxtails fam, steriyon knoghton can vouch for her 😂
Darrell Robinson admitted to selling hgh to flojo and they had no testing method for it back then so that's how you explain her records. Some how, there are still people out here naive enough to think she was clean and her records are legit.
This was Conte's addiction and he hasnt quit. He just works with newer and newer compounds and chemicals.
facts
Now he is the head of Snacs and he feeds boxers PEDs under that banner
@jayflow2713 he fed your fav boxer with peds 😂
A modern day mad scientist?
@@WookieWomanNot even. I can make atheletes pass all these tests. And without any new compounds, just with what currently is on the broad ugl market.
Wow! Victor Contè! I had wondered what had happened to him. It’s been at least 15 yrs since the Balco scandal.
Right??? I remember watching all the ball players testify......sosa forgot how to speak English lol. Bonds said no thanks I'm not going. Mac had his mother goose glasses.
More like 20
Now he is the head of Snacs and is giving boxers PEDs and helping them pass the test some of the best boxers are under his banner. Guys like Terrance Crawford and Devin Haney
The most interesting vid from this series I have seen. absolutely loved it. Great job.
Hello producer of How Crime Works! Love this series. My favorite has been how counterfeiting US money and stealing diamonds.
I feel like this was a how to video
That's what I took from it too. More of an instructional video
Got a lot of ideas I'm going to use based on this video
It really doesn't help with anything since this is outdated by 20 years and doesn't cover any specifics. They describe it in enough details to be educational but not enough for you to be able to recreate it in any way.
I know you are most likely joking but with those videos some people seriously say that they they teach people how to start a criminal enterprise or something. If it's being discussed on CZcams it means that none of those methods work any longer.
@@januszkurahenowski2860 cap
@@januszkurahenowski2860well you could look for products like the ones he stated soo 🤷🏼♂️
I remember one athlete said that taking something to help you improve your ability and to recover faster was worth it even if you got caught the benefits outweigh the consequences. That isn't exactly how he said it but that's what he said
The Olympic adds wells just the extra irony that this video needed. Athletes promoting products after he just said that corporations sweep the drug testing under the rug so they don't look bad. Thanks capital one!!
The fact that this video hit while Pogi is shredding up the tour right now…
For real
Absolutely taking the piss now. "Peak Pantani would need an e-bike to follow him" said my roommate watching todays stage (stage 19) 🤣.
3:30 minutes faster on the final climb than riders in 1993 doped to their gills with EPO. All down to superior diets, training and material, obviously🤡.
I wouldn't mind as much if he only did this at the TDF. But this year, this guy has literally been demolishing everyone from march until now, in classics and in Grand Tours. As you know, that's simply unheard of, which makes this particular version of Pogi incredibly grating.
And sure, there are a lot of questions to be had for the peloton in general, given everyone goes faster than ever. But since none of them has ridden a Giro before relegating everyone to amateurs whilst beating numerous climbing records at the Tour showing no signs of Giro-fatigue, than that riders performances should be questioned first.
Yeah absolutely not loving the tour right now and i was on the side of believing the new tech/nutrition/carb intake meta. The way he easily hounded vingegaard while remaining seated a few stages ago reminded me of how lance looked back then. Way too comfortable while outputting way too much power. Freaky to watch. Like a ghost floating uphill.
you pretty much said what I said word for word to a friend of mines yesterday. Smashed the Giro and just breezing in the tour. And you crushed the record of a guy who was glowing when he set his record.
Pog seems like a good guy and I don’t have any hate towards him but damn…
Pro cycling has been a farce for a while now.
Am i the only one that feels that he felt proud when saying out those projects?😅😂
i mean it was wrong but it was his lifes work
Gotta respect the skill and effort
Very informative video but there's a 0% chance the athletes he's with today are clean. There is no reason to have him on your team unless you wanna dope. What purpose does he serve? You can have a nutritionist to get the best diet possible so he offers nothing for a clean athlete. Funny how he says the tests were easy to pass but now he's clean VADA are very strict and hard to pass 😂😂, yeah right...
He said none have tested positive... He didn't say he never provided the "stuff"
@@growtocycle6992 He said he’s a changes man and has clean athletes now… Implying that he’s not helping them dope…. That’s basically saying he’s not providing them gear even if he is.
To be an Olympic champion these days, you’re on something. As he said, the athletes have no choice if they want to win. Sad but true.
I used to play amateur rugby.. Once I was prescribed a fairly strong cycle of cortisone for an allergy problem and I didn’t know it was considered a PED. I started to realize when I still had quite a lot of energy at the end of a game or a training, while normally I was somewhere between tired and completely spent. While it lasted, it was great 😂
I wasn't doing it for the money.....LOL
Not sure why that's hard to wrap your head around. If he was a millionaire already and it wasn't making him more millions then it must have been a passion for him. Seeing how good your stuff is and beating everyone else's system is rewarding in of itself.
@@gmaxsfoodfitness3035Do u think the guy stupid he's not tell the whole truth. he's a fraud
I ran D1 Track and Field, more people were using than were not. I personally stayed away as i didnt care about the sport enough to dope. I was naturally talented and just quit because i had no love for completing.
How did you find out may i ask? Was it just blatant like nobody was hiding it and they would all talk about it?
Because from a nonathlete perspective we would have no idea so im just curious what it was like
@@bhopirl4552 It wasn’t widely open per se, but people talk. If you are around, you will know
@@bhopirl4552 They are apparently blatant. It is an open secret
Doping in college is unlikely even if it’s D1
Americans winning for the past 30 years using designer drugs: wow our athletes are amazing!!!
China wins one team swim:
THEY ARE DOPING
the difference. in America, its not state sponsored. The individual athletes source and do it themselves. At worst in US, sports-affiliated bodies turn a blind eye to it, but they don't actively sponsor it.
@@a.j.mafolasire3346 The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) says U.S. agency USADA broke the global code by letting several athletes it had caught between 2011 and 2014 violating drugs rules go undercover and keep on competing without prosecution in exchange for information on other violators.
@@a.j.mafolasire3346 yea at worst they are letting their athletes cheat while catching other cheater 😂
Everyone takes pills. But the CCP made their athletes eat the whole pharmacy. Including the TaoBao wrapping.
@@a.j.mafolasire3346So you are implying someone willing do the crime is less guilty than someone being forced ?
The Visa Olympics ad I got during this was... Interesting.
ads? I never see them
Same
They use keyword searches and then serve impressions based on the videos SEO listings.
@@swipeswifejess3234 OK but I for example didn't search any of this stuff. It was just a recommended video.
Here after Jannik Sinner cos the cover up is crazy!
Carl Lewis was doped to the gills the year Ben Johnson was disqualified.
And Flo
He was also a strict vegetarian. He might be guilty of ped use but at least he is not guilty of murdering innocent animals!
Proof?? I call BS
So was everyone else competing in the Olympics
@@joseflemire4284watch this video and then remember the fact that a natural has no chance of beating a steroid user
Thank you for confirming what people have been suspected for about four decades. Now, nobody can deny the reality of performance and highly mediated sports.
Athletes are still using undetectable peds, especially boxers and Olympic athletes
Incredible interview and truly excellent channel. Keep up the outstanding work
Crazy that after all this that he did he now regulates doping in boxing…
Marion Jones was the first celebrity I ever met, I grew up in Raleigh and she was living in Chapel Hill at the time, she was really nice. I remember being so sad when it came out that she had been using performance enhancing drugs.
Don’t let that “nice” front fool you. She knew exactly what she was doing.
@@seensay2132very true. Even after she went to prison, she went on Oprah to tell "the truth". Even then she said she was under the impression of getting flaxseed oil instead of peds. Not only is she a cheat, but also a continuous liar
Everyone was doing it though.
@@stanparker9556 I was 10 I did not know that
@@seensay2132 she's still nice, she just won, her peers were also taking things
No wonder the Australian swimming coach said it's humanly not possible for Pan Zenle to broke the word record, because he knew his swimmers were on drug but got beaten 😂
😂😂
Not inconceivable. Why the "Enhanced Games" might be actually a good idea.
😂😂😂😂 hahahaa
damn, that's why these advanced countries have more gold medals than others
Russia dominated the olympics with USA fore decades.
@@MrCapNunesbut they got stripped of all their medals
And they just have more people.
China
Not really. Richer countries generally get more medals becuase they have better access to sport. More people have access to a wider range of sport and coaching from a young age. They also have less financial pressure, allowing them to focus on sport and there’s greater financial support available for budding athletes. The most successful countries also have high populations, giving them a larger pool of athletes and a greater possibility of finding a world champion. India is an odd one out as their sporting interests lie outside of olympic sports (and is a relatively poor country). Great Britain outperforms relative to its population because it has a very focused funding program for olympic sports
Smaller countries that have focused all their resources on a single sport have done very well but they’re not going to win medals outside of that sport. Jamaica in springting and Kenya in long distance for example.
John Jones is in the chat.
Who in the UFC isn’t on something ?
@@realmuzfi GSP was a good boy!
@@realmuzfiI feel Nate Diaz probably isn't on something
Picogram - Jones John
Athletes today are probably as clean as bodybuilders. And the richer countries have the best chemists.
I was in post rehab group sessions with Patrick Arnold. I had no idea who he was at the time, although the lady running the meetings hinted at his notoriety. He was a calm reserved fellow, I don't remember much, other than when he was in jail, it was scary and there was some inmate nicknamed Bean dip who for obvious reasons was intimidating. I also remember outside the meetings, he talked about making his own drugs. I don't mean drug drugs, I just mean like designer energy enhancers and stuff like that. But anyway, I found out later who he was and was like holy crap, I was in post rehab meetings with that guy! I know I know, 'what a story Mark'. But obviously I was very surprised to learn that I had been in post rehab meetings with THE chemist who had designed the clear.
Barry Bonds is watching to figure out where he went wrong......
😂😂😂😂
All that HGH made his feet and his head grow.
no elite athlete is stupid enough to pop dirty unless they are thrown under the bus
This is depressing honestly
bro snitched on everybody 😭😭
thats what he is... what he didnt say is that he was on the commitee that founded VADA...his company SNAC is the same as BALCO, but protected by VADA
He didn't snitch on anyone. Everyone he named got caught already
Not really,all of this info was made known to the public and 10-15 years ago most of these guys he mentioned admitted to using peds,
Lance Armstrong, are you watching?
Watching .. the guy developed his own program
Tadej Pogacar is
Jon jones. All sprinters. All boxers. Are you
It’s funny Lance Armstrong is the scapegoat of cheaters but it wasn’t just him. It was completely ubiquitous in road cycling. Of the 7 years he won Tour de France 20 out of 21 of his competitors were also found guilty of doping at some point in their careers. Yeah. It was THAT bad
@@silvesta5027 not sure if you are related to Lance, and I understand that he is doing an apology tour, but he bullied, pressured, and weaponized his power to the detriment of many people.
That massage therapist attempted suicide based on what he did to her.
Yeah, I’m all out of sympathy for Lance…
You really notice his lack of remorse when you see how defensiveness he gets explaining how much drugs they seized from him.
If U are a high-performance athlete in any sport then the chances of U doing steroids in ur career is almost 💯,
We know it, they know it, and they know that we know it,
But hey they entertain us and exceed the realm of possibility in our minds👏🏽🤷🏽♂️
And just to be clear,
Taking steroids will NOT make u compete in the highest level overnight,
These athletes are special and dedicate years of their lives to perfecting their craft,
Nothing but respect for them👏🏽💚
cut the crap. they are enhanced..they cannot perform at the highest level without the juice...being talented is cool but training season without using steroids is a waste of time when the competition are all juiced up monsters...
Why not 100%?
@@cosmicwisdom999 An athlete so talented that is winning their whole life without the need for steroids won't suddenly take the risk to start using steroids when they can win without them.
@@joedagg4495you can't win without peds because you're competing against other genetic freaks on peds
Imagine being a natural athlete at his peak performance. For one, you won't be able to compete against the top junkies. And even worse, people will just assume you are a junkie yourself.
I assume if they have a six pack with steroid Gut
It's even worst than that. You'll suffer twice or triple because those junkie freaks never get tired, they recovered twice as fast, and get 5x the gains you get for each training they do.
So be an athlete and dont compete
@@freddiesimmons1394 This so much! Competition is nothing good anyway. It never did anything good because it brings out the worst in humans.
@@coldshatterhand hard disagree: It brings out the worst in bad humans. Good people can compete against other good people
As a beginner natural strenght athlete it surprises me that some people think the olympic athletes don't use anabolycs and PEDs, something that is obvious to anyone in any sports/athletic fields
It’s funny you say this, I feel like you can understand these things better if you train. I’ve trained so much, monitored my diet and sleep strictly. And my PB in the 100m is 10.11 I haven’t ran faster than that, normally I run 10.3s.
And you mean to tell me someone ran 9.58 clean, when Ben Johnson got caught in 88 using anabolics, even the second fastest men: Yohan Blake, and Tyson who ran 9.69 where caught doping. Bolt is just protected.
The human body has limitations. Bolt ran 10.03 one year and comes back running 9.69.
It’s in peoples eyes is just they don’t want to listen
I can’t even train more than 4x a week, otherwise I experience so much body pain. Sprinting is taxing for the body and these people train all year round 6 times a week alongside competing. Tells you all you need to know 😊
Great work. More transparency to sports enhancements and other mystified topics.
Kersey was known as the biggest doping coach there was by folks in T&F back then. I would be surprised if he has totally changed his ways.
He doesn’t have that rep today which is interesting
He def has Sydney Mclaughlin on smth
@@FkaRonexactly. Why do you think she hasn't been competing much this year? She is on the Olympic dope schedule. Like clockwork.
@@dirkjackson8939 Wouldn't be surprised.
Kersee was the trainer of Flo Jo, Jackie Joiner Kersee and is the trainer of Sydney McLaughlin. All three have set World Records that may never be broken. However I would not be surprised if Sydney McLaughlin breaks her WR for the 5th. time during the Paris Olympics.
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Did Phelps take blood transfusions or even steroids??? This is what they will never answer honestly
likely has excess growth hormone. He has that protruding lower jaw that Lebron and Steph also now have. I can't speculate if that's from natural growth hormone secreting tumor or external substances. I just know im relatively confident this is an individual who as an adult was frequently exposed to excess growth hormone
@@a.j.mafolasire3346 I see some of those same jaw forms in the Chinese athletes. Phelps may have gotten HGH as a teenager...but until you have proof it is just throwing mud at people
He absolutely did, but so did everyone he beat
@@a.j.mafolasire3346it's from exogenous GH
That guy shows no remorse at all. He only regrets it cause he got caught out
The 2024 Tour de France looked like 2001, yet I've been told how clean bike racing is now.
That's what they tell the public to keep them happy. Obviously, most people are against drugs and don't want to believe their favorite athletes are dirty
I never watch the tour of anything. At least the racing stuff can be ultimately be 70% on the machine. The tour is 95% human effort. No way can you keep expanding the tour and you can complete the stages without drugs.
Javier Sotomayor, the high jump world record holder, was training im Uruguay for months before breaking the WR... My former trainer competed against him at the Darwin Pinyeirúa competition. Sotomayor was good but not top world class good. In less that 2 years he went from 2.20m to 2.45m... In Uruguay they did not do drug tests at that time
Man, if he could apply his skill to ME/CFS....
Watching Biles and she performed so well despite the injuries tells me everything about her.
She has a very masculine physique as well as other olympic gymnasts but 30 years ago the female gymnast champs were very slim
@@LiwaySaGuAmazon. The term you're looking for is Amazon. Not all women with muscle are masculine 😂
The selfishness and entitlement of the man is astounding.
I saw the documentary on Netflix - absolutely worth watching.
What’s the name please
@@Lunalove42 Icarus
@@Salted_Fysh thank you!
@@Lunalove42 You're so inept you can't sort this out yourself? Maybe read a book. Get independent thought operating...
it's called - Untold: Hall of shame
Icarus is good as well but it's a different case
You know he wanted to say a certain name but held his tongue for fear of litigation. It rhymes with Barl Flewis.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 HE IS NOW WORKING WITH BOXERS FOR MORE DOPING
That's why that Aussie swim coach said it was humanly impossible for Pan Zhanle to have beaten that field in the mens 100 metres free by that much. Did he know the extent of doping going on? And Pan never ended up with a purple face.
like the sound of reel rolling, so nostalgic