Burning Man is a Disaster
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2023
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'Burning Man is radically inclusive, and its meaning is potentially accessible to anyone' "...It's literally like a sea of white people with box braids and Native American headdresses" LOL
Facts.
No hood nigga is gonna be going to places like that
Definite facts lmao
It does really scream “ whiteness”. Lol.
Also - wheelchairs, canes, walkers, fake legs, etc and mud don't go together. If you don't want to add actual platforms and ramps because it's about "survival" fine but don't call it accessible lol
The lawyer who defended Nestlé's use of child slavery was there, which really goes to show how far Burning Man strayed from its initial form
😮 I'm reading all the comments now before the video even, and Ive experienced the devolving of it, and knew celebrities went...but..woah...they really got the elites' right hands partying out there unleashed ....
honestly i’m convinced all the rich people participating in burning man want to go through hardships because they never have.
Yeah, hardships in a Million dollar RV...
This. It's a Disney World attraction of being poor for rich people.
They want to go throught hardships yet its for nothing . Like THERES NO GOOD CAUSE TO THIS ! ITS JUST TO BURN TRASH 🙄 and its not even a music festival ! I bet all these people there are annoying as hell to hang out with maybe not butits just my impression cause seriously . All of this is not ok . Sorry for the rant like its seriously frustrating.
@@diesonneisthedude2668 i agree with you! it all feels so pointless! it’s not spreading a message to anyone outside of it, it’s not doing good for the environment, it doesn’t encourage anything healthy amongst burners or outsiders; i’d understand if there were at least a good message but there’s not! it’s just a load of people wanting to feel unique and like they’ve gone through something… feels like a weird attempt at some sorta secret society or cult
@@jordanwhite352 exactly!! couldn’t have worded it better myself
seeing dev go through an entire process of emotions while progressively finding out what burning man is actually about made this video so fun to watch lmao
My thoughts exactly. Was waiting for her to figure out it wasn’t a music festival lol.
Im learning what Burning Man is right along her lol
Thiiiiiiis!! Burners are some of the oddest festival goers.
It is 💯 a cult
All about the show, ego and presenteeism, very little substance …at least in the Burner communities I know.
my first tattoo artist became a burner halfway through working on my sleeve. he’s sick as hell but he got so obsessed with burning man that he themed his whole tattoo studio around it and eventually just moved across the country to be closer to burning man. my sleeve is still not done.
omg I'm so sorry, that's so frustrating. The story is a good one though, "my sleeve isn't finished not through my lack of trying to get it finished, but because my artist got tunnel vision over a borderline cult-like event and has moved across the country without finishing the work he started." 😂
that's horrendous
If he ever gets around to finishing it, it’ll end up being random shit he percieved at burning man.
@@poopybuttguy5523 honestly i’d be down. it’s already a geometric fractal looking situation so i’m probably halfway there lol
@@RealElongatedMuskrat the way you worded this had me choking omfg honestly i’m tempted to travel across the country just to get this damn sleeve done almost a decade after it started lmao
I don't usually comment on videos, but I'll tell you what I know about Burning Man, Dev.
I've never been myself, but I grew up hearing my mom talk about it (I'm 25, she's 58). Burning man has been around since '86 (pre-internet) back when hippy dippy flower power shit was real big. It used to be a real serious spiritual gathering + art festival. Any live music played was by the people for the people. It used to be completely free - no tickets. It being based on a barter/trade typa deal was huge back then. Every year, people would build sculptures and bring different types of art and parade floats. And you're right, on the last day, they burn the big man sculpture to signify the whole "down with the man/patriarchy/status quo" ideal that was super popular with the counter culture back when Burning Man was first started. It being supported and ran for free isn't some crazy thing if it's done right, but what's nuts is that they've turned this beautiful people powered event into a camping trip for rich people. People who go to Cochella think Burning man is gonna be the same thing, and that crowd (and old age) has slowly pushed out the older people who really made Burning Man what it used to be. Now, it's a bunch of rich white people who do the "van life" shit and wanna have a rave in the desert.
Pro tip: you can buy a decent yurt for $95 at walmart 👌 No air conditioning obviously, but still.
Over the years, I've watched online as the event quickly devolves further and further away from its original meaning and cultural significance.
I also second your opinion on just preferring to go to a concert if you wanna see live music. If you wanna see music, see music. If you wanna go camping, go camping. If you wanna hear music when you're camping, make music. If you wanna go camping when you see music, road trip to hit multiple shows of a touring band. That's just my opinion though.
this needs to be pinned
thats a shame
When i first heard about burning man recently i thought it sounded so so cool
if i wasnt so introverted i probably wouldve went
but yea it seems like it changed into something else
Why do rich people have to ruin everything
You seriously couldn’t have said it better. Literally, exactly what it is
It's crazy - I read the original Burning Man manifesto for class earlier today, and it was all about radical inclusivity and making art accessible to anyone who's passionate about it. It's really sad to see something revolutionary become a mecca for rich people
So well said, thanks for sharing your perspective!!
my audio professor literally missed the first two weeks of class to go and was like “sorry you wont be able to reach me, you can figure out the assignments” and then came back and only talked about burning man in class for the next three weeks
That is peak insufferability
i am so sorry lol
I had a Professor like that in 2014. Fortunately, it was a Winter class.
omg im so sorry
You paid for that class ? Should’ve contact the dean
As a local, I have observed the devolution of Burning Man for years by looking at the traffic it generates. The caravan of hippie busses became a caravan of $300,000 motor homes.
I will ask you was it last year when they left a whole passenger plane there even though they always shout about how they never leave anything behind
reminds me of the malcolm in the middle episode with hal in the rv lol
i literally could never pay to go to the middle of the desert to burn something for so much money
not even if you have the chance to connect to nature ?😳🧐
@@ayriananichols4658 I love connecting to 5 rocks, a beetle, and one cactus
@@eminempreg underrated comment
Those burners sure love to set all sorts of stuff on fire & burn everything in sight. I guess that includes money.
It's like a cult. I think they just lost a few soft members.
I've known a few "Burners" and while I appreciate the creativity and art that happens there, I've found that people who call themselves Burners tend to be really obsessed with it and they kinda can't stop talking about it and they come across as kinda annoying and boring while thinking they are so much cooler than everybody in the room. I think it gets to be a bit cultish, for sure. Also, from my experience, it kinda feels like they are mainly into the drugs and galavanting around in sexy costumes and hooking up with random other people. I'm sure they'll come home with some really big stories about this year's event, for sure. War stories galore... So annoying. It sounded really interesting back in the 90s when I first heard about it, but since then it's gotten really co-opted by rich people outdoing each other.
This. This is exactly it. I know “burners” too and no they’re not rich, the rest of the year they’re high af on their couch. AND IM FROM CANADA why would you travel to Nevada for that 😂
I played at a regional burn few years back and felt out of place as someone who doesn't look or dress like a hippie. It seemed like an insular group but there were some nice people. The older groups set up in campers and traded food with each other, but for the younger set it was pretty much a giant rave. Tons of drugs, EDM, and people fucking in tents every night. Also very strange seeing kids wandering around in the daytime.
Lots of people that go are actually in a cult, that spans from Oakland/SF to BC { Sunshine Coast/W.Kootenays}
Yes. I used to volunteer at Bonnaroo. The first year every rain storm and the 6 hr drive just like a battle to overcome and somehow it made it more important. By the 3rd I was fed up with everything
@@HalflingMarqueeunderstandable yes.... I wanted to go in 2018 but realized the effort was huge....let alone being in the middle of nowhere fromout Europe. What do you think of the children walking around over there ?
"building a big guy" is exactly how i've been describing burning man for years.
They looked at ocean gate and thought to themselves “how do we do the exact opposite of this?” and ended up stranded in the desert
HELP
As a rural Nevadan that lives very close to black rock and dreads burning man each year to watch this unfold is surreal. It won’t change anything I’m sure.
There was a thread in the Reno subreddit about getting a truck to go rescue people lol.
Is the Gerlach car wash still going as a fundraiser? Lol
whats the point in dreading something thats a tradition that has been going on for decades lmfao
@@m0zkiiiprobably because it attracts a ton of people to what is a typically quiet area and annoys the people who live there, same reason that locals hate coachella lol
@@Raaaah__ exactly especially when events grow into something very different than what they were originally over the course of those decades. Edinburgh Fringe Festival has locals dreading it despite the fact its a huge cultural cornerstone for the arts in the UK *because* of how massive it's become without the necessary growth and development of the festival to not fck up the city afterwards. I went to university where golf was supposedly invented or something (idk it's known as "the home of golf" but idc about golf), and while it was funny that one time I was trying to get to class and couldn't because the roads were blocked for the Obamas to play a couple rounds, I dreaded the damn golf competitions for the tourists and the way they'd have no respect for people who lived there. It makes day to day life really difficult when people flood your town for a bit, wreck the place, and then leave.
@@m0zkiiihow is this even a question? we've all dreaded something that happens on a regular basis for a long period of time. it's also completely precedented for people from resort towns to dread the on-season, because it disrupts the typical peace of the town for days or weeks at a time. you're allowed to like Burning Man without telling people that their disliking of it is baseless or invalid.
it’s so insane to me that people spend so much money to set up an event themselves, have to get a shelter for themselves, possibly get stranded for longer than they were supposed to be at the event, and go missing or even die because no one is actually running the event
From what I gathered from looking at other people's comments, the event seems to be expensive to enter because it is expensive to run. They are building basically a city in the middle of the desert - you need communal supplies: water, electricity, at least some infrastructure for that, and it can't be permanent so it can get more expensive than doing it inside a city for long-term use. The volunteer workers don't pay for the tickets, but they do get there earlier to help build and set up everything.
As someone who spent 10 years of my life going to an event with a similar theme (spirituality, community, a bit of isolation, etc) people downplay how refreshing it is to just be in a completely different system for a week. A far away place, somewhat disconnected from the rest of the world, where everyone is contributing for each other's experience (and in this case, survival) instead of trying to make a profit out of you or take advantage of you... It really resets your worldview of what humanity is capable. I understand what attracts people to an event like this, even if it is a much more extreme version of the type of event I used to go to. I also understand seeing the trend of more rich people going every year, so you increase the ticket prices so you can have more money to work with to give everyone a better experience, not just the rich folk invading your event. I also understand that when you attract different people, your event is gonna start changing because the people define the nature of the event. If a lot of people start not wanting to share their stuff, you can't make them, you just have to tell them that in the culture of this event, this is not acceptable, and hope they listen.
@@LunaWitcherArtyeah honestly it sounds like it'd be perfect if it wasn't for the majority of the people attending 😂 which comes 100% because of the ticket price. Make it free or near free even one year I'm sure the rich fucks would be pushed out just because they would be so uncomfortable with the culture they find themselves in. Because burning man should be actively hostile to rich, consumerist fucks.
Looks like a cult to me.
Whenever dev posts I run around my city climbing on buildings and trees like an orangutan (which I am)
are you the same orangutan that stole my pet tree? 😡😡😡
me too
these got so intense omg
so real
@ville__ i am absolutely sick of you STOP IT
I never judge high schoolers because my life goal back then was to go to burning man. Help
Damn that was my goal too, like I used to see pictures and videos and really wanted to go, and im not even from the US, then i became an adult and got a job lol
This is a sweet way to think of kids and yourself as a kid.
And then you grew up and joined the adult world.
Apparently these burners stayed in the juvenile state.
I never went to burning Man in my life obviously. But as someone who had friendships and relationships with the original people that started burning man and the early days of it and what it started out as and what it was supposed to be to looking at it now is extremely tragic. Literally a living textbook example of what appropriation means.
I don't think that's fair. The original spirit is alive and well. Sure, there are the rich and priviliged and the influencers and they even have a name amongst us hippies: sparkle ponies. Most folks there are still easy going fun lovers. No point in lamenting what a tragedy it is what BM has become. It's still a magical place for people of all sorts to connect and be themselves.
this "burning the man" reminds me of of multiple pagan traditions in europe, where you burn a figure (or just a huge bonfire), usually to banish winter/ welcome spring. So it's really weird to me, that they're doing this in the middle of summer. they too probably don't know why they're doing this.
yeah, I thought of that too lol. In some places where I live folks still do that too but definitely not in summer haha
i think it used to be a much better atmosphere. from what i’ve seen and heard, rich assholes have co-opted it and made it into a pissing competition essentially. it used to just be about community and going crazy, expressing art, the insanity of building something just to burn it all to the ground at the end. i didn’t know about what the sand was like tho holy shit, fuck that lmao
The more I watched the more I just realised that this is basically a cult
its kind of like a cult, but even dumber and more destructive to the environment
What’s a definition of a cult? How is this a cult 😂
No?
@@HippieHealing This cult sheepishly follows deviant behaviors to create spectacle. It detracts from the wonder and beauty this event was meant to display.
I think it’s less of a cult, more of just a cult-like mindset, like; don’t question anything or else the other “burners” will turn on you (btw I feel like that nickname should be enough for people to question shit), the struggle is just a part of it even though an uptick in prices didn’t do anything to uptick quality, and it’s definitely just a nature and inclusivity experience, even though you’re surrounded by nothing but people, rvs, drugs, and some tents, and most people can’t afford it
It's not a bartering economy, it's all a gift economy. People aren't supposed to exchange anything for a service, it's all provided for free. Usually with the exception of ice. Also, yes most of the people who work Burning Man are volunteers, but they get free entry, which tickets are typically around $800, and they don't work the whole time they're there. The event is not weeks long, they just show up weeks in advance in order to build the giant effigy that gets burnt. The actual event is only one week long.
The bartering is for sex and drugs, it is very much a quid pro quo event. On the cheap side, it’s still around 2k per person (if they bring thier own tent). It’s a douche-a-palooza frat party carney rave in a horrible location. Yes, there is some amazing art, and most of those artists are hoping to score a whale that buys some of their art. Overall, it’s a pretty crappy place if you are not a girl looking to trade your drunk and dirty pussy for whatever you fancy in a given moment. The smell of insecurity is almost as bad as the smell of 70k people that have danced in the hot desert without showering for a week.
We show up a week early to build theme camps. The BORG shows up one month early to layout the city, setup BORG infra, build the man and plant the fences.
There is art to watch..in a desert........ And that is what you pay 800 for... While all supply is on your self.... Soooo you only pay for a art experience and to meet up with other people around the world. But we can not pretend like those millions that are cashed by the organization, couldn't provide for more than just the art and connection experience. Where is the budget list? Are the artists being paid from the millions? And what is left of the millions? Where is the transparency?
@@VioletLife8 The expenses are reported every year to the public.
@@timothyblazer1749it took a grand total of 5 secs to find out 3 of the categories listed for the 2018 burning man. Are literally the same thing. Payroll, 30%. Payroll Taxes, 5%(which is probably goes to the people who work). Employee insurance(which is included in payroll) 2%. Like this is saying you want a burger, but the meat is off to the side and so is the sauces. And by “off to the side” i mean a completely different order if you want them.
hi dev, would definitely like to hear you talk about ezoo. i went this weekend and it was a disaster. day 1 canceled, day 2 postponed, day 3 shutting out people who had already purchased tickets hours before the event was scheduled to end. entering and leaving the event was also insanely difficult, attendees were assaulted by security guards, and tons of people had their phones stolen. PLUS, none of the refunds they’ve promised have been given out yet! thousands of people rushed the gates and formed an angry mob, it was literally insane
I was there this weekend too! Absolute choas! Getting off the island was almost IMPOSSIBLE Saturday night… we left at 11 and didn’t get to Manhattan until 2:30! It was just seas of people all trying to leave and no one budging 😭
I live near Burning Man. Haven't been out there in almost a decade, but just wanted to clarify a few things. It's not a barter economy so much as a bring everything you need and then a bunch extra economy. Bartering is lowkey frowned upon. If you have extras just share, if you run out of something just ask. The idea is building a community out there. I'm a hardcore introvert but made loads of great friends out there because of it.
There are tons of volunteers out there but there is also paid staff. A huge chunk of those volunteers are not working the whole time. Maybe a six hour shift at the greeting station or something.
Also, most burners aren't rich. I was working in a video store when I used to go. The festival itself is 10 days, but if you're on set up or tear down crew for a camp you can go early and/or stay late.
Happy to answer any questions anyone has about the details. Even though I haven't gone in ages I live close enough that everyone comes through my town on the way and I'm pretty well versed in it.
with peace and love, I do think things have changed in the last decade. The only people I ever knew who have gone and stayed with any longevity were very wealthy/successful outside of BM.
@@abbyz13 may be because I live in Reno but I know so many very not rich people who go every year. Living so close definitely makes it cheaper. Also as someone who went out quite a few years in a row, once you have all your equipment it's a pretty cheap vacation. I used to spend about a thousand bucks a year, including ticket price. Ten days in an Air bnb would be close to that amount depending on where you're going.
i think a lot of people miss the point that the initial festival wasn't the rich people pseudo hipster hellscape that it is now. the history and origin of burning man is pretty fascinating, transformational festivals are great if you're someone who appreciates that type of spiritual expression. i think the people reporting on it as "ha ha rich people cosplaying as hobos in the desert" is very reductive
@@emmew8979 I think a lot of that comes from most people getting all their Burning Man experience info from influencers, who are generally rich people cosplaying as hobos in the desert.
That first video Dev showed was from Shoddy Lynn, the co-founder of Dolls Kill. Extremely wealthy people.
Yeah, volunteering just gets you entry into the festival. And IIRC, you still have to pay your way in, they just reimburse you afterward to insure that folks make it to all their shifts.
I had a friend who did that. Sure it's unrelated, but he took his life in the fall of 2017. I never understood why he went year after year. He had found, "his people" there. Which, gave me a cultish vibe about it.
@@djenkins555oh that's heartbreaking. I live in Portland and I see people from the music festival scene who go to after parties follow the same. My theory is at the end of the day you are still escaping what's making you unhappy and not fixing it .
If you volunteer with the actual org your ticket can be comped, but yes, if you're just with a camp or something you'll likely still pay to get in. As much as it's touted as a gifting economy, it's mongo much expensive. While people can go with a backpack and some water, the majority spend a chonko chonk of money to get there.
Fun fact: over 10,000 bikes were left at last year's "burn"
Lots of people come from europe, buy a bike from walmart to bring, and since they cant bring it back on the plane with them they leave it there.. >.< luckily there are organizations that clean up all those bikes a recycle or resell them for the next burn
The thing is.. if you really pay attention there are smaller more intimate music festivals that will give you lots of good music and people for a fraction of the cost of Burning Man and you won't have to camp either. You just have to go with the mind that you're discovering new music and you will in fact discover a new world of music.
Right on!
I was hoping someone would cover this. I had no idea what this was until i saw a poll asking if you felt bad for them and 70% of people said NO. i was really confused even after reading some comments, like all i could figure out was people didnt feel bad because they just had different BELIEFS
What do YOU think?
Lol, no one should feel bad for them - because they came *prepared*. You go there knowing that it’s an extreme weather environment, and prepare accordingly. This news was big because technically participants couldn’t leave until the playa dried enough to safely drive out. Ended up being +1 day. Monday morning folks were filing out. (People who wanted/needed to leave badly enough before that had to walk out, like Diplo did since he had to play a show in DC that night).
Literally dying doing something they love... STD's and abortions in their future.!!
They dont trade. At least in my experiance. They just give stuff to eachother with no expectation of getting anything in return. Its actually fun usually. This is the first large rain storm since ive been going. So glad i missed out this year. Lol. Love your vids so happy to see you cover this.
I've also only spent no more then 500 to go. That includes ticket food and water. It just depends on how you wanna spend your money. I usually get low income tickets or work for the event to go for free.
what if nobody brings enough food because everyone thinks someone will give it to them?
Is it organised at all who brings what?
@@em84c you bring all the things you need for yoyrself to servive a week there and usually extra. You dont expect that anyone will give you anything people just do if they want to. There are also a bunch of camps that provide meals at certain times or on certain days and those days and times are all in an event book that everyone who attends will get as they enter. Its acatually really organized and people who go understand what they are meant to bring for themselfs as well as the risks and expectaions.
My response isnt suppose to sound rude or condescending. I just wanted to answer you question. I hope this doesn't come in a negative way, and answers your question. :)
@@em84cadding to @killashandrabarnett5483, Burning Man is based on 10 principles, and one is self reliance. Of course there's people who are all, "Psh, the peasants shall take care of me!" and yeah, that miiiight work... Or they'll be hungry, cold, dehydrated, and a burnt crispy lobster. To have fun requires a level of preparedness... Kiiiindof like going to a super swim party without a swimmy suit. Can you swim naked? Will someone lend you a suit? Sure, prolly. Would you be better off being prepared? Most definitely.
The Black Rock area is a cool place to have a festival when conditions are good, but one of the worst when conditions are bad. I'm a geologist who specialises in mud and it's been fascinating to watch this unfold. Soz for the info dump below, this is my jam.
The mud at the site is literally kitty litter. It's also the same stuff that gets repackaged and sold as facial scrub etc. The dehydration probably comes from all the salt in the mud too. The clay in the mud is mostly kaolinite (aka china clay), which is water resistant, and montmorillonite (kitty litter/facial scrub), which is water absorbent. The combination means that the ground holds a lot of water and takes a lot of time to dry out because the montmorillonite expels the stored water as it dries, and the kaolinite stops it from draining away. This creates a slurry we call a "soup ground", over a layer of denser really sticky mud.
Montmorillonite is also really good at sticking to and absorbing organic matter, such as poop. This is why it's used as facial scrub, it absorbs all your dead skin and grease. It can store the organic matter for a *really* long time then release it, so that's gonna be a problem for future years festivals, especially if they get this much rain again. Montmorillonite also expands when wet then shrinks when dry, creating space under surface.
Dissolving salts create more space which is why we see people and vehicles sinking so far into the ground. When it dries, the kaolinite and carbonate minerals turn into a relatively hard cement, so I'm guessing there will be some vehicles and other gear that will never be getting retrieved.
They'll get retrieved or the event isn't happening next year. Burners spend weeks afterward combing the desert to clean up the event.
So lucky im broke so i dont go to things like this
I saw someone say that this situation is really emblematic of how "rich people will pay to manufacture suffering because they are shielded from it systemically" and I feel like that is soo extremely true......and also incredibly sad considering what burning man started as. it's just the saddest joke ever
Honestly until this video, knowing about burning man solely through general and/or pop culture references, I had no idea there were even people in charge of organizing it. My understanding of it was that at some point each year, a bunch of people just gather in the desert to do drugs and become ungovernable. If you had asked me who was in charge of running burning man I’d have said “idk maybe they all choose a lizard or smth at the start and designate it their king for the duration?”
i really don’t wanna overstep, but Dev absolutely glowing right after the relationship announcement just makes me smile so big(:
what relationship announcement?
@@lillianking2178in the newest queef jerky genius video nick confirmed he was dating dev 🎉
@@lillianking2178in the queef jerky genius video
@@loudpengu8991 can't find it??
@@bnmangamanshe and Nick are dating.
It use to be magical, I would watch the Netflix documentary Spark: A Burning Man Story, over and over yearning for that genuine, unique, special experience
There are regional burns that have the ethos of Burning Man without a lot of the issues with the original Burning Man. I think it's a pretty cool and interesting community, but the main burn definitely has issues.
How is Burning Man good for the environment ?
@@KB-sv7fmcause good vibes and stuff.
@@KB-sv7fm Burning Man, the festival in Nevada, is bad for the environment. Local, regional burns are much smaller and do not have any greater environmental impact than any other festival or event.
@@she_be The world is dealing with climate change. Why “burn” at all ? Do you want to be involved in a worthy cause ? How about promoting Hemp ? Hemp is great for the environment.
Love a regional burn !
As someone who lives in nevada its like a season lol you go out to the store for groceries and see a bunch of RVs and hippies, and just go "must be that time again".
I absolutely love how she’s doing the research while filming so we’re actually learning together
The history of Burning Man is actually fascinating, especially the way it's kinda devolved and lost sight of it's original purpose. Cult Podcast does a fascinating 3-episode arc on the Burning Man
dev makes me wiggle my howling lil puppies and skip around with glee every time they upload
U scare me
I relate to you.
wtf?
relate!!!! 😂😂😂
Real
Dev is so hinged and normal appearing in her own videos I like the unhingedness of her in nicks videos
she lets out her gremlin energy with the homies, I respect her for that ♡
SOOOOOOO EXCITED TO SEE U ON TOUR ❤❤❤❤❤ the delusional EP has been on repeat for me all summer!!!
It's less about barter and more about self sufficiency, I've heard. Like knowing what you're going to need to be happy and survive and bringing it with you.
I'm in the UK but even here we cannot escape the people obsessed with Burning Man. A few years ago I got drinks with a friend along with her boyfriend and his sister. The boyfriend and the sister were world traveller types and had been to Burning Man. The boyfriend explained the general concept to us, but then he just went on and on explaining every little thing about it and how incredible it was. He seemed obsessed with it, and he was from New Zealand so in order to get there and back it would be a transcontinental flight on top of the regular travel time! The descriptions of people exactly like him in the video and the comments are great. No one who has been seems capable of talking about Burning Man just a little. Thank god my friend noticed I was about to die of boredom but didn't want to be rude and rescued me from the conversation.
Dude thank god you made a video on this, I've been so confused 😭
Girl, just wait 'till you realize the HUGE damage they do to the land. Especially this year! That lake bed wont be back to normal for decades if ever based on all the micro plastics, metals and other materials they leave behind. 😒 Those protesters we 100% right to be protesting.
I'm pretty sure there's a documentary at Netflix about burning man, basically it grew too much over time and now it's a literal city build just for like 9 days and they leave that place like they never been there, also the volunteers usually are the artist that exhibit their work at the festival (the art at burning man is insane) and no they don't get any money, the festival is like 30 years old or more, it started with a couple of hippie dudes and now it's a whole city
also you can vonlunteer and get some perks
Burning the Man leaves the planet with unnecessary carbon in the atmosphere.
I haven't kept up w Burning Man for years but I used to like look at the pics every year just to see what's up. Honestly this video makes me want more info like you're the first person I've ever heard describe it as a cult and I really think you might be onto something
Lmfao it is not a cult, that is such a narrow minded way of thinking about it. Name one single community where there are not die hards who take it too far/are annoying about the community. Every single group of people has those people, and burning man is only different in that burners tend to be a bit louder and more annoying than other groups. Plenty of normal people go, I've known 50 year olds with jobs and kids who went (and are otherwise completely well adjusted people who you wouldn't suspect go to something like burning man), I have friends who go every year and are sober for the burn. It's not some crazy conspiracy and Dev is clearly clueless about a lot of it. Which, frankly, is quite unbecoming considering she is a successful artist who could very easily find her way into a great time at the burn. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ArnaldoMessyDJyou’re in the cult aren’t you
There isn't a cult. So, no. No I am not. @@LUVRG1RL
@@LUVRG1RLit's not a cult! We just like fruit flavored beverages and dancing around until we pass out and giving all our money to--oh shit we're in a cult.
(I jest, all in good fun. I do love the Burn and I will continue to go on years I have the time, resources, and money to do so.)
I had roommates in the mid2010s who went as performers the tickets were free for them but they had to provide everything for themselves. We lived together for a couple of years and that playa dirt is insane we would have it in our house for months after just from their storage tubs and bags!
It was them and abunch of other people in the same tribe that would bring everything to build a stage for their performances and slept in tents near by.
Burning Man is not a music festival?? What the hell
One of my professors volunteers every year for burning man to build it all (engineering professor). She's described it as a temporary city and as "radical self reliance" and enjoying the art. She was definitely a character. My parents friends used to go to burning man as well but they stopped going because the original idea has been overrun by people who just want to get wasted and burn shit. So idk I do think a lot of people who go to burning man are obnoxious but I don't think it's all bad, but I definitely think it's gotten worse in recent years.
Got tickets when you first announced, and saw you in Austin on your first tour 2 it’s an honor to watch your career grow, I’ve loved ur music so much for a while now 🥹
Really glad I found your chanel through Nicks videos, putting a clip of your music in an already vibey well edited video was a really good way of getting me hooked on your creative vibe, total genius.
Having a $20k yurt at burning man is not the norm.
You better believe, it is now.
i can have this exact same thing by going into a dessert, burning a popsicle stick figure, and having music play in the background while i poor moisture sucking mud on my feet.
What will you do with all the money left over in your pockets 😢😢😢
That's literally burning man culture. Go do it! It'll be an experience.
Next year bring some friends along, because hey, might as well have some company out there...
Dev I love your music and your videos :) SUPER EXCITED to see u on tour :)
I actually love festivals. Smaller scale, more indie ones, but still. It’s not just about the music, it’s about the community being built in a matter of one day, getting to know new artists, being able to be close to the stage if you really like the music or get away from the crowd and sit with friends on the ground with the music in the background. Late night acoustic jams, camping with a ton of people you don’t know and getting to know them, getting stoned and making your own food, all of that. But paying so much for it is so absurd, it literally beats the whole point. The whole volunteer thing is beautiful in my eyes but not if it’s such a huge event that costs so much
I've volunteered to work some festivals before. Idk if my experience translates to what volunteers do at burning man, but I got paid $50 for working a 3 day festival but I also got a vip wristband for doing it. I only worked like 16 hours of the whole 3 days. I just saw it as a way to get the ticket that was out of my price range :)
What festival was it?
Pretty sure the skin issues are because the sludge is making lye, or something similar
ive heard burning man mentioned a lot like since i was a kid but i always assumed it was some big musical festival 😭 i don’t know how to deal with this information, how has this event been going on for so long
Lets just not forget the original messages of burning man. Yes alot of rich assholes have ruined it, but there are still so many people who go there annually with art projects that they work on with a whole team all year. People put their heart and souls into this and it fulfills them creatively just like music does. DJs and musicians have an outlet here. There are also so many people who come on a low income ticket which is offered. Many people who work on art projects do not pay to get in since they are providing an art experience.
Please watch the WHOLE vid on those climate protesters. I like the earth too but that doesn't mean trapping people out in the middle of a desert on a hot highway is ok. They were being really obnoxious. People tried to reason with them for a while before police plowed through their set up and I DON'T blame them. People stuck on that highway were not all burning man people either.
Protests aren’t meant to be comforting to the offenders 💀
@@celestedivinity2178 But the "protestors" were actually just being self-serving entitled pricks. Nothing they were doing was actually helping the environment. I'm sure all that carbon emission from the literal miles of cars sitting idol was REALLY helpful for the environment. All those "activists" did was set up a lousy road block with some cardboard signs, chain themselves to a metal boat carrier, and prevent an ambulance from getting to the Burning Man event. Also the rangers gave the protestors plenty of time to move themselves peacefully before he rammed his car through it. Sorry but the protestors WERE the offenders.
But they also aren't supposed to block traffic. That is decidedly not okay. Emergency vehicles had a hard time passing through, peoples lives were in danger, and if they care about the climate they should care about forcing THOUSANDS of cars to idle with air-conditioning running full blast. It was not an acceptable form of protest. @@celestedivinity2178
I am so glad you brought this up because at first glance it seems like they're the victims , but when you watch the entire video they were being very obnoxious and backing up traffic for miles. By making people angry from being stuck in traffic on a hot ass day doesn't help the protesters message it frankly does the opposite.
It’s also worth mentioning that these weren’t police like most American police cars and cops. This is a ranger on reclaimed land, which is much closer to being it’s own country than just another city in the US. So they chose to be obnoxious and trap people in the desert on native land. Not exactly a great way to protest and get people to fight for climate change.
I’ve known that burning man isn’t actually a music festival for years but I had no idea that they literally burn a giant man statue until this moment lmaoooo
I think the malcolm in the middle episode where the family goes to burning man holds up really well
Dev I have no idea what your music is like but you are a delight and fun to watch and listen to... I'm a grandmother but I now want to look up your music and check it out...
i just started the vid dev, but i just wanna say i’m a recent subscriber, i love your content, and you’re so pretty :-D
I loved hearing you fundamentally misunderstand what Burning Man is and then have it break your brain.... but yes, it is insane from an outside perspective, and also if people go without realizing what they're getting themselves into that's scary to think about. But really the insanity and self-reliance is literally the point of it, it's not like a festival, it's just people who collectively decide to go wild go crazy
From what I know of its a pegan festival where they have sacrifices I just don't know if it's live kid sacrifices or from livestock. It's something I will never participate in.
@@jp3711nc1wtf? Lol how did you get to this conclusion?
Lols, that’s a hilarious bit of ridiculous gossip that burners will gaggle about. I impatiently await spoof videos/memes.
Pagan perhaps in a sense that participants generally respect our planet and honor nature, not like weird religious stuff.
So why ran out like chickens if they are so self reliant?
go to the burn dev, i want to see queef jerkey perform there!!
Seeing an XLR cable buried in mud in one of those TikToks made my Spider Sense go haywire.
I’ve never been to burning man but I have been to several burns on the east coast. I totally understand some of the points Dev makes in this video about the capitalist views within bm. But one thing i do love about burns in general is the way that volunteering is seen as so essential to its production. Volunteering is one of the key principles of burning man and other burns, and it really is so amazing to see what you can accomplish within a large group of people all working towards the goal of building and taking down basically the equivalent of a small city. Everyone wants to volunteer because they see it how important it is, and it’s not about the money at that point- it’s about creating this experience. Also, not saying there aren’t any white people in native headdresses (i haven’t seen any personally), but I’ve made amazing friendships through burns and met some of the most incredible, loving, kind people. I will always remember some of the gifts I was given or things I witnessed that you will literally never see anywhere besides a burn :)
Hey Dev:) great video. Everything you say holds valure but the largely unspoken aspect of burning man in the idea of free public expression of ART. In terms of festivals, it’s extremely and beyond respectful. Look up the art made at burning man. It’s phenomenal. Yes, it’s an experiment of sorts, and there is many rich individuals capitalizing and Exploiting off participants, but when you think of
It fromA different angle, there is no other place where artists or people that want to live any bit off of the ideals of society are able to express themselves. Suddenly everyone cares about the people attending burning man now that it’s “unsafe”. No one cared before! These people know what there were signing up for, and the risks that come with it. The large burned man is only a minuscule fraction of what the event is. Yeah, there are people that undoubtedly nfairly profit off of this event; but it’s also worth questioning if those signing up and paying to participate in a communal experience they can’t get anywhere else, a scam? They know the risks in what’s they’re paying for. it’s critical to state that
it is also of the only places artists and creators can create without endless restriction, destruction, and rule. There are always those that take advantage, but most don’t. Again, I beg each of you to look up the art and design this event has witnessed. Peace and love:)
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It's a copy of other festivals that have been going on for years. We don't burn stuff and we don't allow DJ's because our music is all live. BM is just franchised and advertised. I have literally been going to 2 in the southeast since 1997. I've been told of others in states across America. Every year we have a theme and tickets are less than 100 buck. You have no idea how whitewashed and brainwashed BM is because you want to believe you are part of a family... or something bigger. But the truth is you are being sucked dry by the promoters and the advertisement of being the "only" place is what attracts the narcissists. We have tribes and camps just as you do and our economy IS ACTUALLY gifted. We just don't have a website... we have a mailing list. Get over yourself. BM actually keeps the rif raf away from our events... which is a good thing.... so there IS that. Sorry but you are not that special and "the burn" is an ecological disaster in the setup and the release. There are other ways to be "Spiritual" you know. The old hippie generation set these up all over many years ago. You just weren't in the know because there were no WEBSITES.
Totally agree w you here^ maybe if people just looked below the surface of what everyone else is saying about it, then they could see the beauty that it can hold
Yes!!! So much of jaw dropping giant pieces of art I'll find out was created for a Burn, then donated. It can be a magical place.
Burning Man is a mind blowing experience. Been going since 2006. It’s a shame that so many people hate on it because it’s been associated as a party for “rich people” and influencers. It didn’t start as that, and it may be that for a small group of people, but there are many kinds of people there.
I live in a small town that a lot of burners go through on the way, and I worked at a grocery store here last summer. Burners are not well liked here, they have a bad reputation as hard drug users and thieves. We already have a lot of drugs and theft here anyways, because poverty, but I remember it being worse leading up to and directly following burning man.
We also have the same dirt here as there, so I can imagine how bad it'd be to be stuck out there with the rain we had the past few days
On my knees sobbing throwing up begging for you to come to Florida !!
Dude I was just in the car with my dad and he was trying to explain what burning man was to me and he couldn’t figure out how to describe it lmaoo
whenever dev posts, i fall to my knees, start sobbing violently, and start praying
Its so incredibly cool going to your shows!! The next time you're in town for me, it's my sister's bday and there literally isn't a concert we would miss!!!!
Omggggg I didn't know you opened for half alive also I can't wait for your boston show in october!!
So from my understanding there are people who work for burning man and get paid and it’s characterized as a “non-profit.” I don’t know the details of who gets paid and who are volunteers but my friend actually knows a bunch of people who work there and they are there right now. I’m super nervous for them, haven’t heard anything from them so I assume they are stuck. But yeah it’s actually so wild people do this and I’m super worried about my friend who went.
Non profits have paid staff. I work for a non profit
@@karengordley4508 i think a lot of people assume nonprofits have to be charities. So a nonprofit that just puts on a desert art show doesn't make sense to them, not the paid employee part. Maybe i'm giving too much benefit of the doubt lol
so i didn't know what burning man was exactly and now i understand all the jokes.
but also rip to the man that died this year. he was 32. that's so young...
This is sooooo well done !!!! Thank you for doing this !!!!!
bro I've been so confused ty for uploading abt thiss
Hey dev! Burner here- just wanted to add some context for our community.We don’t barter! No trades allowed- it’s a form of commodity and our third principal is deca modification. We only accept acts of gift giving- and a gift does not mean an exchange of a gift in return :) the burning man community is a group of people based around 11 principles, we come together and build our little communities for a few days, and then leave back to the default world when we are done- ideally leaving the grounds we were at better than before :) we have burns all over the world all year long! Burning man is the biggest of all our events though, but many burners never even go to the big burn! Many stay to local burns or smaller ones 💚 I think there’s a big misconception that all burners are rich, it’s true, that many people that end up getting to go to the big burning man have a lot of money and are more privileged. But as said, we have burns all over the country, all over the world and many different people from many walks of life come and at the smaller burns very rarely are there well-off people financially. It’s just a bunch of normal people- of all ages, the elderly, family’s and their children, coming together to be a community as it should be for a few days. Most small burn tickets are under 100$ and kids are usually free or 5$ :) unfortunately the big burn has strayed so far away from its original meaning that it’s not accessible to most of us burners. We hold true the spirit in the small burns tho 🥺
Don’t you just love all the excess carbon being put into the atmosphere ?
So, it's a camping trip club? Events of which are closed by the ceremonial burning of a man in effigy? That's been hijacked by Black Rock and Google?
Hi...you expressed yourself so well. I'm older but feel the same way. I just posted on my FB about how they need to consider being true to their " values?" By gifting $20 each...($
70,000 x 20 is $1.4 million ) atleast as donation towards environment! And paying those volunteers!
The yurt isn't 20k. It's like $500.
How do people go? They take holiday and go!
Why is it expensive? The ORG funds a LOT of the art out there, so a good chunk of that ticket goes to fund art.
If you really want to know what's up, interview a burner. :-)
This was great I hope your tour is very successful.
with electric zoo and burning man being a disaster this year im so so glad im not into festivals 💀
I just found your music through autopilot and i’m obsessed !!
autopilot is one of my favs by dev!!
The way I get all my music drama thru dev limes-
Big W take here, there's a copycat festival in my home country called Africa Burn which hits the same beats of "leave no trace" and "a barter based economy" and all that. My friend who was so hyped when he got back gave me the whole spiel and I told him directly it sounded nonsensical. I got so much kickback from him and his "burn family" and I realised that's just a side effect of tripping balls in the desert for a week straight. If you go the while experience sucks you in and blinds you to the corporate capitalist spirit hiding behind the nostalgia bait of free love and anarchy. Like if you think it's a cool experience and enjoy the community that's fine but don't deny that it's a money driven enterprise. The whole thing smells like a scam
When Dev posts I go around town burning, man (I am an arsonist)
i didn’t even realize they actually burn a man at burning man 😭
FYI Tho there is a CEO, BM is actually a non-profit.
Also, pretty much every mainstream festival ever is run primarily by volunteers who are compensated with free admission (and meal tickets during shifts).
"The Burning Man Project is the organization that annually plans, manages, and builds Burning Man on the dry lake of the Black Rock Desert in northwestern Nevada. The company coordinates the year-round, behind-the-scenes work needed to build and remove a temporary city of 80,000 people.
Burning Man ticket sales provide a multi million-dollar budget for the organization. These revenues help the organization obtain required permits from the Bureau of Land Management, rent portable toilets and equipment, secure medical, fire, and law enforcement services, and cover other organizational expenses."
Anyway, I've always loved music fests since my first Roo in 2008. Unfortunately, each year since you can see the corporatization get heavier and the quality slightly reduced. Regardless, camping fests are where it's at.
I've always wanted to go to BM, but unless you are mega rich it isn't a festival to take lightly as you have to trek in quite a bit of goods after you arrive and there aren't vendor booths like most festivals. Also, it's an art festival with music, not a music fest.
Each year tho it has become less enticing because of what we've been seeing lately and the kind of crap mentioned here:
www.cnn.com/2023/09/05/business/burning-man-billionaires/index.html#:~:text=Burning%20Man%3A%20How%20the%20ultra,CNN%20Business
thank you for taking us on your journey
I HOPE TO SEE YOU LIVE SOMEDAY DEV!❤
At first I was confused when she talked about this as if it was a music festival :)
But, I was even more shocked to find out that this was a ticketed event. I just always kind of assumed it was something where people got in for free, and it was sort of naturally capped by the fact that getting there is such a pain and so difficult.
Paying to go to an event like this just feels ridiculous, also sort of goes against the whole bartering economy thing, doesn't it....? :)
The “I don’t know just talking” at the end made my day lmao
im going to your show with my friend!! the ATL one :) i'm so excited!!!
I'm surprised Burning Man is a ticketed event and surprised Diplo is there. I thought Burning Man was a free thing for weirdos to go and make installation art (My understanding of Burning Man is that one Malcolm in The Middle episode)
"Flashing lights, Diplo, and Trenchfoot" should be on a t shirt idc who you are.
Apparently my uncle went to burning man and my family was talking about it yesterday but I hand no idea what burning man was until now!
Im so fuckin glad nick posted woth you(or what ever the kindest/most appropriate way to say that is lol) but i love your videos! I love your vibe! I dont know if Ida found you otherwise and im *SO* happy i did