What if ALL Revolutions of 1848 Succeeded?
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2024
- The year 1848 is perhaps one of the most important in European history. It was a period of chaos, as practically every nation in Western Europe suffered massive unrest. The goal was to get rid of the dysfunctional monarchies and create states based on shared language, religion, and heritage. So, what if all succeeded? How would Europe look, and what would change?
These ideas were introduced to most of Europe nearly 40 years prior to that, when Napoleon Bonaparte was invading most of Europe. He created the Confederation of the Rhine and created some unified Italian states. After he was defeated, his ideas of forming countries based on language continued to live on and even to thrive.
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I find it funny that a video talking about the 1848 revolution is, well, 18:48 minutes long.
Damn right! It took me 3 tries to make that happen
Nice.
@@rewriting-history My OCD thanks you greatly sir
Hi😊@@rewriting-history
@@rewriting-historyhi
The fact that this video is 18 minutes and 48 seconds makes this video even better
I know right! Glad many people noticed
1848: exists
Monarchies: “HERE IT COMES!”
The downfall!
Mildly large number exists:
Monachies: "MOMMY!!!"
@@SamFromItalia this comment feels ai generated, maybe im just too paranoid
@@darkenergy436 I would not put in the effort of making a bot just so I could make mildly funny CZcams comments faster
@@SamFromItalia lmao
I love how you can clearly tell where the creator is from after he gives Bulgaria Constantinople after a single war.
And the slightly too thick slavic accent
*VIDEO IDEA:* What if Austria-Hungary went through with the Sixtus Affair _(where austria tried to betray germany in 1917)?_
Sounds cool, I've always thought about that
Good idea
Then Austria would annex germany in the peace deal and proclaim the Germano-Austro-Hungarian Empire ofc
Wait is this actually AI
The description looks pretty real so 50/50
Albania in this timeline: "Thank you Napoleon, you are my best friend"
Unlikely friends :D
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fun Fact: a descendant of Napoleon (Roland Napoleon Bonaparte) was supposedly offered the crown of Albania
Ju arë dhe piskipër, ju arë dhe legjend.
That thumbnail is PERFECT! Loved the video! Suggestion: What if Austria won the wars of italian independence?
Good idea, I will explore that side of the war too
@@rewriting-history Cool!
Hey! One thing I wanted to mention in connection of the Hungarian uprising and revolutionary war of 1848-49, and just share my opinion (as a Hungarian, who's grandparents are from Transylvania): Hungary made an alliance with the Slovaks (who were called "tótok" in Hungarian) in 1848, because the Slovakian nationalistic movement's leaders thought it was their best interest, to be a well respected minority in an indipendent Hungary, than in the large Habsburg Empire. After some time - and at the end of the conflict, -Transilvanian Hungarians and Romanians made peace with eachother for basically the same reason. The biggest problem was with the Croats and Serbs, because they were very much influenced by the Austrian leadership. Croatia was in a Commonwealth with Hungary from 1091 (when St. Ladislaus the I, the king of Hungary occupied the region), so they could've achived the same status of indipendence within the Kingdom of Hungary, as Hungary wanted to be within the Habsburg Monarchy. So I think even tho Hungary became multiethnic (mainly after the XVIII. century), the minor nations' leaders could've made a long-lasting pact with the new Hungarian government.
The Romanians were on the side of the Hungarian revolutionaries at the provision of the Proclamation at point 12, by which they would have been part of Hungary, after which they turned their backs on Kossuth, contributing to these and the curses made to the Serbs.
been waiting for this for a while!
same here! I hope you will like it!
Realism: 7/10. The idea the russians and ottomans would effectively establish non agression is ridiculous. Russia was too heavily invested in pan slavism and the ottomans just united the south slavs (well except slovenes but nobody cares about them) under their oppression. There's no way they're just going to sit on their hands.
Also the ottomans shouldn't have been strong anyway. They were the sickman of europe, their army was outdated, so was their political system and their economy etc. I think even a new hungary would at least be able to secure status quo antebellum.
Also im pretty sure the independence of poland in galicia and prussian poland would have led to a general rebellion in congress poland
He also entirely ignored the 1848 Frankfurt German empire, entirely ignoring its aims, established constitution and goals. For example the whole „we have no desire to expand“ schtick doesent make sense because they absolutely included Austria in their planned borders as well as Bohemia. An independent Austrian identity didn’t even really exist at the time and the idea of Kleindeutschland didn’t have much traction.
Yeah and even if the Russians do succeed in forming a polish client state I guarantee it wouldn't last a decade before a rebellion overthrows it starting another conflict with Russia.
Extremely nice touch that the video is long exactly 18.48😁
Damn right! I'm glad people noticed that
Is it purposely exactly 18 minutes and 48 seconds long?
Yes
@@rewriting-history gawd damn
Realism 3, Ottoman is the sickman of Europe, they couldn't start such a war.
Also Walachia annexing Hungarian land early is ridiculous, they were way too poor and their army was bad.
Omg great touch having the video be 18 minutes and 48 seconds
Appreciate that! I put some time towards it
Only downside, the Belgians still exist.
I love this idea! It’s kinda like if we skip forward a few centuries in terms of self determination and independence
Like the reference
That intro was so cool!
NO WAY! I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY!!
One of the best videos you've made yet in my opinion
Appreciate that, I'm getting better every time!
As a Pole, I agree with most points you made about my country's fate should these uprisings succeed. The Polish client state would be very likely indeed, considering that just 20 some years prior a Russian client state did indeed exist in Poland before rebelling and losing.
The only difference I think would happen, is that in my opinion Russia would attempt to weaken this new Polish client state by separating the eastern, Ukrainian part of Galicia, and annexing it directly into the Russian Empire. Maybe they'd also give Germany back some of the land, but it's much less likely.
P.S: Now that I think of it, there was an (unsuccesfull) attempt to start a Polish uprising in Russia between the years of 1846 and 1848. I wonder if it's success would change much, probably yes since newly unified Poland would, as per the rules of "All uprising succeed", win against Russia.
My man is uploading a masterpiece after masterpiece
Appreciate that very much!
Great video. Here when this has just 11,6k subs
Ayyy, I'm aiming for 100,000 by the end of the year!
As a Czech, im a bit dissapointed that Bohemia didnt became independent, as there were some revolutions aswell, but when he said Austria-Bohemia, i was like: I mean its alright like🤷♂ (great video as always)
Highly unlikely as in this new Austria 70% of the people would be Germans so they would be the majority
9:10 Actually during the 1848 Revolutions in Spain, yes a Carlist War was going on, but it wasn't this time to put some '''Carlos'' in charge, actually the ''Second Carlist War'' as it would be called, was more like a little insurrection in north Spain, mostly in Catalonia. The reason the war occurred was that Isabel II refused to marry Carlos María Isidro son. So if the Second Carlist War was a success, which is veeery unlikely, the result would be that Isabel II agrees to marry Carlos ''junior'', or as the carlist called him ''Carlos VI''. Thus unifying both Carlist and ''liberal'' dynastic lines.
Can you make what if lndia was independent in 1859
Do you mean 1857?
Yes
Very good video but I have know idea how the Ottoman Empire is supposed to beat Hungary. At that time the Austrian army was probably better and more advanced than the Ottoman army but they still wouldn’t have beaten Hungary without Russian support. Meanwhile Russia would have invade the Ottoman Empire.
Hey! Wonderful video. Can you make a video about what if the Ottoman invasion of Italy in 1480 had succeeded?
In an alternate timeline where all the Revolutions of 1848 succeeded, the landscape of Europe and the wider world would be dramatically different. Here's a detailed speculative timeline:
**1848 - The Year of Victorious Revolutions:**
- Across Europe, the people's demands for liberal constitutions, national unification, and social reforms are met with success.
- Monarchies concede to the formation of constitutional governments, and a wave of democratic fervor sweeps the continent.
**1850s - A Decade of Reform and Unification:**
- The German states unify into a single democratic nation, becoming a leading power in Europe.
- Italy also unifies, and with the support of its people, it becomes a hub of cultural and economic progress.
- The Habsburg Empire is restructured into a federation of equal nations, each with its own constitution.
**1860s - Industrial Expansion and Social Change:**
- With political barriers removed, a surge in industrial development begins, bolstered by the free movement of people and goods.
- Workers' rights are advanced, leading to the establishment of the eight-hour workday and the end of child labor.
**1870s - The Rise of International Cooperation:**
- The success of democracy in Europe encourages the formation of an international body to promote peace and cooperation.
- Colonized nations in Asia and Africa begin to push for independence, inspired by the European revolutions.
**1880s - A New World Order:**
- The international body evolves into a proto-United Nations, mediating disputes and fostering global collaboration.
- Scientific and cultural exchanges increase, leading to breakthroughs in medicine, science, and the arts.
**1890s - The Dawn of a Progressive Era:**
- Social welfare systems are established, providing universal healthcare and education.
- Women's suffrage is achieved worldwide, marking a significant step towards gender equality.
**1900s - The Century of Peace:**
- With the mechanisms for peaceful conflict resolution in place, the world avoids the catastrophic wars of the 20th century.
- The focus turns to environmental conservation, and significant efforts are made to combat climate change.
**1910s - Technological Revolution:**
- Technological advancements accelerate, with the invention of the internet coming decades earlier.
- Space exploration begins in earnest, and by the mid-20th century, humans land on Mars.
**1920s - A Global Community:**
- The concept of nation-states begins to fade, replaced by a global identity and citizenship.
- The world's languages blend into a universal tongue, facilitating even greater understanding and unity among people.
**1930s - Utopia or Dystopia?**
- The rapid changes bring about a philosophical debate: has utopia been achieved, or has humanity lost something vital in its quest for perfection?
- A movement to preserve cultural heritage and diversity gains momentum, balancing the global identity with local traditions.
This speculative timeline imagines a world transformed by the success of the Revolutions of 1848, leading to a more united and peaceful global society. However, it's important to remember that history is complex, and such sweeping changes would bring their own set of challenges and unintended consequences.
Is this AI generated?
Why did you even post this?
@@whitehawk4099 Why do people always roast me I'm literally just 13 years old
@@dingozi3428 It reads as AI generated.
@@whitehawk4099 what
It might seems like a short video but youtubers like you put days or weeks into the effort.
Yep, that's how it is. I'm glad that some people know that
note that the sicilian rebellion was made by the brithis since they wanted to annex it , and the ''sicilian'' state was higly unstable this is why the borbouns reconquerd it . its a native sicilian here speaking from palermo
Thank you for the information, such things I cannot read online and learn only from my community. Thank you for teaching me!
@@rewriting-history glad that someone is willing to listen all sides of history. May as well add that the savoyans had set up lagers in north central italy to deal with the borboun army that was still loyal to the old king and that before "uniting" the savoyans had hight dept problem that led them to invade the two sicilies that was the richest state in pre-unitary italy, they pillaged the south killing and destroying many villages and civilians ( including r*pe ) , basicaly turning two sicilies from the strongest in the region to just be a colony , you mat ask your self how did it hapend? The two sicilies had a SUPER hight corruption in the army that made it basicaly nothing. Garibaldi then that guy he is hated here in sicily and south italy since its his fault that all of this happened because in the past the mafia was a state controled way of land lords that was made to protect the high vineyard in sicily , one important was of henry of orleans that had lots of land in the partinico zone. Still i dont want to take all of your day but if your willing to have more information about the history of the two sicilies ask me since sources in english are basicaly impossible to find
Video idea: What if the Italian Rebellion of 1831 succeeded?
1) What if Italy was restored in 1400s
2) What if Holy Roman Empire never collapsed
Hey Rewriting History can you do a scenario where Chan Santa Cruz succesfully seperates from Mexico and the Yucatan briefly its quite underrated as the Mexican-American War overshadows it and its the closest thing to a Mayan state in the 19th century well I think
Also , The ukranians rebeled in galicia to in 1848, also eastern galicia was Majority ukranian , Only Lwow was polish. So it doesnt make sense "Creating a country based on nationality.", and also romanians in south bukovina
Bohemian revolution of 1848 would mean that czech kingdom would became indepedent
NICE as usual
Suggestion:What If Franco prussian war never happened
Good idea, I will soon do a similar video!
Many Austrians also wanted to be part of Germany, that only failed because there were too many non-german ethnicities in Austria and because the prussian and austrian monarchies absolutely didnt want to. But if the non-german ethnicities would gain independence from Austria, and if the Revolutionists would be way more powerful than the rulers, Austria would have joined germany.
But Hungary withstood Austria and had to fight the Croatian rebellion Slovakian rebellion and the ban at vojvodin rebellion considering by this time the Ottoman Empire was in decline and wasn’t there an Albanian revolt , also they had problem collecting taxes due to armed rogue militias in the balkans meaning it will be 3 times more dysfunctional than it was irl
Wow, you really put a lot of time making the Ottomans look competent by feeding their vassals Hungarian land and then just let them crumble like a brittle cookie, I think the Hungarians would have done better considering how well they have done in the actual revolution against the Austrians whom would have been stronger than the Ottomans, even if the Ottomans had the numerical advantage, I highly doubt that they would be able to conquer significant portion (and certainly not all of) Hungary.
It's really interesting to think about all the Hungarians who wouldn't have left because of the success, fun fact: Hungarians who fought in the revolution and emigrated fought in the American civil war
Interesting fact regarding the American civil war, thank you for sharing. I didn't want to downplay the Hungarian people, but it only helped to create a more interesting scenario.
suddenly hearing a bulgarian (I assume) accent after hours of listening to people with Canadian, American, British, and Australian accents is... interesting, his accent practically woke me up from a dead sleep (not, of course, to say that the accent is painful or bad, I find it quite nice, it's just a stark contrast.
I appreciate that, it's my charm and I have been working to improve it, but it's the thing that sets me apart from other creators. Also yes, it's Bulgarian.
>ALL Revolutions of 1848 Succeeded
>Galicia is somehow fully polish
Amazing thumbnail
Kinda funny that the video is 18:48 minutes long good detail!
Yes, I appreciate that!
- "what if all revolutions succeeded"
- Poland still not free
The Bulgarian peace deal was only SLIGHTLY biased
Have a wonderful day
Appreciate it, you too!
Then 1848 would basically mark the collapse of medieval Europe as modern civilization comes to replace it, much like how the fragile system of the Roman Republic was replaced with the more stable system of the Roman Empire.
Posen gaining autonomy under Prussia seems far more likely, and the Ottomans were partitioned way too hard while the Russians didnt even try to take advantage of that?
Balance of power politics are still a major factor here to boot, at most the Ottomans go to something resembling the aftermath of the Russo-Turkish war, with Greece and Russia gaining a bit more border territories on top.
As a Belgian, it makes me happy that Limburg is coming back to us 😊 .The Netherlands did not want to give them to us even if this region wanted to be part of Belgium.
Lore of What if ALL Revolutions of 1848 Succeeded? Momentum 100
Ah yes! Lets never forget the Good ol' tradition of Making Greater Bulgaria in every Alternative History Scenario!!!
6:41 it would be easier to unite with the bourbon sicily tbh
The german 48'ers includes the Deutschösterreicher, in the discussions for a more confederated germany or more centralized the Austrian delegations prefered loose confederation. In saying that the german states would retain a lot of autonomy you would probably have to add austria, along with bohemia and moravia to the german confederation
0:31 ah yes, my favorite military general, Napoleon Bombombparta (this isn’t a hate comment, just found it funny)
part two,s to your video's please
I'm a simple person, I see Polish flag, I click the video.
I appreciate that, Polska Gurom!
@@rewriting-history Video's great btw :D
Suggestion: What if France invaded Germany through Belgium in World War I as part of "Plan XVII"? Would Britain support the Central Powers?
Can you do what if England won the 100 years war PLEASE
I can poll it again and see if the people would vote for it
I just thought of this before I saw the notification
I love your accent!
Constantinople might be international
got an idea "What if Naples formed Italy?", really unrealistic but still a cool idea since naples was a lot different and less republican to the rest, and more opposed to unification
The Lombards' nightmare
After these vids i think theres no senario that will save the ottomans in 19th century
I think that the Italians would've asked for some cities in the Adriatic in terms of awardings for their involvement in this Balkan war, together with a struggle with France and Greece over the overlordship on Albania
Aaaah complex to say Italy would want to, but France in particular as traditional great power would likely win the ensuring conflict over Albania, especially so soon after sudden unification
1848 video being 18:48 minutes is amazing
suggestion: what if Novgorod united Russia instead of Muscovy
eu4 lore!!!!!!
the fact its 18 minutes and 48 seconds long
That's 3000IQ moment
16:04 Maybe greece might have a corridor so Thessaloniki is connected to the rest of the country
It's funny how the video is 18:48 long lol
I tried my best to make it this way!
Here's an idea: What if Czechoslovakia had gotten togo?
(No seriously it's actually a real concept)
Also it always feels like every alt timeline is the ottomans lose Constantinople earlier, realistic, but the irony of it all is that Constantinople is supposed to be extremely defensible
I assume they would lose it in a peace treaty and not during war
It's an awesome video but why are you saying all that underwater
I don’t think the ottomans would lose completely against the allies
This is great, realism is 3/10 but BIG BULGARIA!
I agree 100%
Nice to see Italy unity in advance
Video Idea: What if Chiang Kai Shek was assassinated during the Xi'an Incident?
As a bulgarian this is a great scenario
Most normal Victoria 3 gameplay:
I don't play victoria, but I get the reference
my brother i christ austria would be part of that german unified by the 1848 revolution and bohemia also rebelled. DId you even research this topic fully or did you just gloss over it?
You are wrong for one. If 1848 revolution succeeded eastern galicia (Ukrainian Part) would be as independent state and not under poland
how coincidential that the vid lasts exactly 18 minutes and 48 secs lol
When you spend 1 hour trying to make it exactly 18:48 and people call it coincidential... :D jk
I actually created france it was for my school project
Thank you... Croatian Kingdom ( borders ) from 925 ( and earlier as a duchy ) to 1853+
Are u Bulgarian?
What about Russia the Ukrainians wanted to be independent and the polish peaple too
There weren't major revolutions about that in 1848
Video Idea: What if Serbia and Bulgaria united after Serbian victory at Battle of Velbazhd 1330
🇷🇸🦅🦅☦️🏴☠️🏴☠️
4:17 thats how the german empire worked irl
What if Germany never was in the Central Powers and joined the Entente
All? The world collapses into a new age unrecognizable to us
I like how video is 18:48 minutes long
I'm glad somebody noticed!
What if the Bulgarian-Romanian union actualy happened?
This is my first ever video!
That state would have been attacked by Russia, which gave an ultimatum to King Charles I.
I feel like the ottomans would not do anything/ don´t want to do anything as the many minorities in the empire were already very rebbelious. Also great video!
You forgot Slovak revolution
I did, my bad!
@@rewriting-historyYou didn't miss much. Slovaks think a few hundred insurgents are a revolution 😂😂
BULGARIA IS SO BIG IM EDGING.
me when no Slovak Independence :(
My bad, should have given them one...
😂😂😂😂🤡🤡
the video is 18 min 48 s the irony
Made that on purpose
We Czechs had revvolution too 😢
We even hosted first slavic congres at the time 😢
Here is a cursed idea, Denmark forming Germany
I already did that in all endings Germany
A Revolution in Bohemia mostly Prague also was there So i dont think Austria-Bohemia Will be there.
Sardinia Piedmont Only joined the Crimean war to get support for unification Efforts so I don’t think Italy would join
They wanted to gain the favour of France, which still could happen
15:00 truly sad