What if Everything went TERRIBLE for the Axis?
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What if the Taliban handed over Bin Laden after 9/11?
Sounds a little interesting
what if bin laden time travelled, overthrew hitler and then won WWII?
Us invades anyways
i heard apparently this could of happened (cia was talking with them or something) but then the us announced its war on terror and talks ceased
They nearly did but the war hawks in the U.S. government invaded anyway.
You should do a video where the competency in the Axis is switched. Italy is competent and makes similar gains to Germany in our timeline, while Germany is the "broken spine" of the Axis.
The broken spine is funny as fuck
Japan and Iraq switch too?
That'd be interesting. Italy breaking past el Alamein and capturing Egypt while Germany struggles in the Netherlands. Could lead to Italy signing a separate peace with the allies, getting some concessions in return of helping defeat the soft head of germany
@@saccorhytus so Iraq invades Iran, Saudi arabia, Syria, lebanon, and threatens egypt and sues canal, but Japan does absolutely nothing
What if Japan and Italy (along with korea and greece) Geographically switched places some time before the war 💀
Alternative title:
What if the Axis was led by a first time HOI4 player
(Edit: how the tanna tuva did I get 2.2k likes??)
Oh yeah 😂😂
Just like my first Italy game...
I was teaching my friends hoi4 while i watched this video
Even with 100 hours you would still be a “first time” player
@@The_whales agreed
I’m so glad this is becoming a proper series, I love the concept of these and now he’s getting more creative
Now I want to see: What if America won the War of Revolt (independence)? From the point of view that they lost.
Imagine if he does a Poland video and Poland ends up being bigger than in his "Everything Went Right" video.
@@clasicpotato oh, so it would be a Canadian video, and like the one from the April fools, absolutely magnificent
Everybody’s so creative
"What if everything went terrible for the axis" - germany still ends up with way more territory than in our timeline lol
That actually makes sense.
i guess a worst end for them would be to imagine France being done with germany after the Xth time trying to do something silly and demanding the entire nation to be quartered. germany could end up being split into the rhineland, bavaria, prussia and whatever part is distinct enought to form its own nation. basically a bunch of Austrias.
@@Lapantouflemagic0 Oh if france got its way they would have just annexed the rhineland right away, like a century earlier. I guess the worst outcome would be then if there was no USA or GB to stop them.
@@wildfire9280 How so?
@@ryanhernandez8324 The more successful you are in a war, the more the opposing side that eventually wins will want to cut you down to size. Probably. Idk, it’s not a rule or anything, it’s just _a_ coherent line of logic.
Its worth considering that if Poland invaded Germany in 1934, that would give Germany reason to rapidly and openly develop its military as it would now have an excellent justification to do so.
i think so too and in the following war in autria italian military would fail for sure that would lead to significant territorial shift in northern italy
Ironically this would destabize and isolate the Allies so much Germany would still win against France and maybe even force peace with Britain and thus potentially win WW2
What is "Germany" in this scenario? Personally, I don't think there's any chance Hitler's regime persists after a successful invasion by Poland; it'd be too much of a national humilitation, potentially one sufficient to spark revolutionary action.
@@Meeperstein101 When Hitler started the annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938, a group of Army officers were in the early stages of a coup (the Oster conspiracy). If there was any military reaction to it, they would have raised the army against the Nazis. In 1934 a military action by Poland (an unlikely scenario) would have seen Hitler deposed quickly. And then the Nazis either get banned or splinter into smaller parties.
The Allies were very belligerent in this timeline. By being THIS aggressive towards the Axis before they even did anything remotely dangerous, it would cause the allies some serious internal turmoil because they would be killing potential jobs. Don’t forget this is the Great Depression, and German “Tractors” would be great places to export steel and rubber, giving jobs for the colonies, shipping, and steel mills. It also makes the Allies look extremely aggressive to the point of actually looking like the bad guys. Why get into a hissy fit over useless sand in Libya or uncolonized land with people who are your ally’s ally?
Oh I wouldn't call those lands useless, lybia did have oil, and africa made lots of coal, rubber and food exports.
Yeah, I was going to say. I get that the whole video is about "What if everything went terribly", but a significant portion of the French population was still against a military intervention against Germany even on the eve of our timeline's Polish invasion. I don't think there's any chance of the French government doing even half the stuff in this video without collapsing. All of this would also alienate the US from the Allies.
This is a major problem people have with WW2 alt his. It is tempting with current knowledge to just curbstomp the Nazis right on 1933, but you can't risk martyring them by proving them right.
guys its fine its for entertainment😭😭
@@tuh210he's just pointing out realism lol
Alternative title: If France and GB were competent
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Most of these actions are being ridiculously belligerent for no reason.
The Allies biggest mistakes, without hindsight, were not backing the Czechs in 1938 and a poor response to the Ardennes Offensive.
@@adamboh393I am fairly certain many other countries would start considering France and Britain as the next big threats to Europe since they were exercising their authority a lot and were winners in WWI. It gives Germany a cassis belle that they ACTUALLY were being oppressed by the allies and were defending their sovereignty, plus angers the Americans by violating their belief in the right to self determination in a geopolitical sense.
Internally considering this is the era of the Great Depression, it would piss off their own citizens that the country was intervening in other nations so harshly while their own people lacked jobs. By shutting down Germany’s attempts at economic recovery, it would reduce potential export locations and may kill potential jobs their own land.
The thing with appeasement is, at the time, it was a reasonable policy. the allies needed time to ramp up production against a mobilized germany who had a larger stock of airplanes and tanks. They realized they needed more time to confront germany, if the germans folded with danzing, the allies would have more than twice the production in airplanes, tanks, and equipment by late 1940.
@@vaporwave2359additionally, even Germany went to war earlier than planned. Had Germany gone to war in 1940 like they had intended, it's entirely possible that the early parts of the war would have gone much more poorly for the Allies
I feel like Poland would support Japan in their conflict with USSR. with Germany being very weakened, and Poland still upset about the eastern border, they would at the very least support japan with guns and volounteers.
During this period japan already cooperated with poland, such as assisting eachother in sending spies to ussr
I like the transitions for countries changing colours, but when changing images as a whole, it gives me a slight headache.
It’s a bit choppy yeah
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"I want to see the horrific regimes to attempt, but fail in all of their goals."
That´s a nice quote.
Suggestion: What if France invaded Belgium in World War I as part of "Plan XVII" (The proposed invasion of Germany through Belgium in the case of a second Franco-Prussian War)
The case of Belgium joining Axis immediately after being declared sounds funny to me. Not only it destabilise UK position on the war, it could also questions America's need to support allies, because both Axis and Allies invaded democratic country anyway.
Ww1 not ww2 man
Wouldn't Germany invade the Netherlands in response?
@MartinHutasoit09 Sounds like Belgium is going to get partitioned.
Nah, Holland was one of the targets of the original schiliffen plan, but was ignored due to the fact that it was friends with Germany, allowing military access and letting Germany use its ports to trade While germany got blocked in own ports@@the11382
The reason why italy gave up on austria broke ties whit france and brittain and became closer to germany was because brittain and france supported the ethiopians and put sanctions on italy, why would they still support austria when the LON put even harsher sanctions on italy and they arent even allowed to get all of ethiopia
Because Germany could very well claims their territory, like Istria and Tyrol. Sure, Ethiopia was embarassing, but it's not too hard imagining Italy still on Austrian side.
What if the allies followed all of Churchill’s plans? Some are pretty wacky, it’d be a great scenario.
What if Ea Nasir sold good quality copper?
Then The Babylonians would survive, and their empire would remain till current day
Comedy bronze!
Then he is forgotten.
Can't wait for "What if everything went perfect for Yugoslavia"
Immortal Tito unite the Balkans
@@ClanGaming635 Yes. Like a Yugoslavia scenario without Titus thing but instead a normal yet OP run for Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia didn’t collapse
Yugoslavia becomes a full on Balkan Kingdom? Or at least, Magyaroslavia))))
@@ForTheBrotherhoodWhat's Magyaroslovia?
What if everything went perfectly for Britain? How large of an empire could they build? Where would the point of divergence be?
Gotta be American war of independence right?
That’s pretty similar to the “What if the Imperial Federation Worked” video
that's pretty much the historical scenario + the imperial federation :)
the way you keep it even better is by preventing decolonization, which you caaaaaaaaaaaan do but you would have to stop progress in political ideas since the early 1900s.
so basically world wars should not happen. seems hard to do that
They bought the +100 Luck gamepass, but after it expired in 1942 they lost
I know it was brought up as a joke on your recent 2nd channel video, but i think it would genuinly be interesting to make a video for "what if social media existed in WW2"
“bro all these belgians be actually fighting dawg wtf 😭”
“ayo what the fuck why are yo goin through that foresty shit?”
I'm imagining after the Anschluss Mexico protests by unfollowing Germany and sending spam bots after them
@@Sohcahtoa14 Hitler 1943: Italy kind of sus, i think they might be an imposter
That would be hilarious
"it's francover...."
This is the most cathartic video you've ever done
so satisfying
What the hell does that even mean
@@ash_11117watching a nation roll a nat 1 on every endeavor is funny. And frankly there’s way two much what if xyz nation won an extremely improbable war out there
There are a couple of things that don't sit well with me about the Austria's war: the first being that the anti German coalition would help, at least partially, Italy in the fight against Germany. The second is that the Italian army was much more suited for mountain warfare than the Germans, so they would the upper hand in that front.
What if everything went PERFECT for the Axis Powers? This video was teased a while ago on the Central Powers victory video, just want to know if that's still in the works.
I do think that in the Soviet Japanese war in this timeline that America will support Japan the more the Soviets push them back into China and Korea so the Soviets don't get to powerful and at least guarantee Japan remains independent in their home islands and Pacific territories and possibly Taiwan and although unlikely because the Soviets owned half of it Sakhalin or at least the half that Japan controlled before the war.
You're getting a lot better at editing! Keep up the good work man, your effort does not go unnoticed.
I have a crush on PH, but thia comment will get lost in between the comments
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I don't think so buddy
Already loving this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
-What if everything went perfectly for Al Andulus?
-What if everything went perfectly for the Weimar republic (anchluss happens in 1919)?
About auchluss in 1919 see stressa project
Love your videos!! Keep up the good work!!
I had to like the new possible history video for sure
16:00 16:45 Highly unlikely, for the simple reason that the upper echelons of the the American government were remarkably sympathetic to the Soviets as a progressive utopian project built out of the ruins of a reactionary empire, and a potential ally in the decolonization of Africa (as would become the case in 1956 with the Suez Crisis) and dealing with the Japanese in China. It also didn't hurt that their economic ideas were within shouting distance of the New Deal's and most of their atrocities weren't well-known at the time, with the few that were known being heavily disputed thanks to the Soviets' own propaganda apparatus.
Dean Acheson, Joseph Davies, Harry Hopkins, etcetera, are just a few of the well-known individual examples.
This scenario reminds me of the song every little step. As in every little step the Axis make the allies will be there.
I love this series! it always presents such creative scenarios which you can actually believe could or would happen!
Tractor Blitzkrieg 💪 2:28
Hey, wait, this reminds me, wasnt there a video in the list of "Next 10 planned videos" that was going to be about "What if everything went PERFECT for the axis"?
yes, he was planning everything perfect for the axis but he decided to do opposite
So many of these videos could be turned into fun alternate history hoi4 mods
Like always Józef Piłsudski is the mega chad
Me literally every single time I either play France or Britain in Hearts of Iron 4.
There will be NO lenience for the mustache man.
Excellent video!Love the new art style too
I mean one got away with a black eye, one was dismantled and occupied in four zones and one got nuked twice - in the end, it was terrible enough
Yes but they had us in the first half not going to lie...
As a Paradox Game enjoyer, I really love your MAP channel, kudos
THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO YOU EVER MADE (I'm 40 seconds in)
As someone with more extensive knowledge on the second Sino-Japanese war, the Soviets historically only truly began supporting the Chinese communists after they began winning the Chinese civil war which came after mere token Soviet support during the aftermath of the Japanese surrender like giving the communists a headstart to taking over the Japanese occupation of the region. Based on historical precedent, the Soviets supported whichever side was more power in China out of pragmatism of having an ally against the Japanese, and basically the Nationalists doing better in this timeline and being a vital ally of the Soviets against Japan, I would see the Soviets out of pragmatism supporitng the Nationalists until the defeat of Japan on the mainland, after which there would be tensions between the two over Sinkiang, Mongolia and Manchuria.
The Soviets absolutely wouldn't have total dominance over China, because with European strengthened position in Europe would mean no loss of Indochina and Burma around 1941, which in turn would entail that the Chinese Nationalists would have basically an uninterrupted flow of goods via Indochina, while the Burma road could be constructed as an additional route even without the fall of Indochina in 1940 due to otl fall of France missing, and thus the Chinese nationalists are not limited to just at most some over 30 thousand tons of supplies monthly via air that was only sufficient for defense, but instead they would have a continued 9 thousand ton monthly supply route via the Burma road that would definitely increase in quantity with purchase of more trucks and expansion of the road.
With this uninterrupted source of supply, the nationalists would be able to continue arming their forces to not only replace losses, but start building up a force capable of assaults, and thus eventually you'd see the Nationalists have sufficient enough equipped forces that they would be willing to risk losing with their loyal forces blockading the communists also supplied simultaneously, as the prize of pushing back the Japanese and regaining territory woudl seem more lucrative than not doing nothing, especially if the Japanese were losing to the Soviets as the cost of not trying to push would beocme the Soviets and thus maybe the communsits having a stronger foothold.
What if everything went TERRIBLE for The Black Death
(Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
Nah he needs to do this at this point
If everything went terrible for the Black Death, it wouldn't even reach Europe.
Just saying you could have watched the video before it was officially out if you looked in the "Every thing went perfect for X" playlist on PH's channel.
Love your vids!🩶
What if everything went perfectly for Ancient Israel? I would love to see it!(There is, for some reason, no alt history for Israel)
Random Idea: What if Shikai's Empire of China Survived?
please never use that transition effect again
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Agreed
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No. I like it❤
@@romko4496ur blind
What if Egypt won the first Egyptian-Ottoman war
It won against the Ottoman. It lost against the rest of Europe.
Poland just pulled out an UNO Reverse card.
Video idea: what if everything went terribly for Britain, particularly regarding if they never were able to establish their empire, at least to the extent they did in real life.
Loving the editing please keep it up
Interesting because normally everyone does a "what if everything went right" scenario for the Axis
Hey there I’ve got a video idea if you don’t mind, what about what if everything went perfect for humanity, I get it’s abit general but could focus on like the climate and disease spread and stuff
I love this channel
Please fix the transitions, they hurt my eyes. Apart from that, 10/10 video + Day 11 of asking for 'what if everything went perfect for Australia'.
I feel like this actually went better than real life for the Germans and Italians, but I suppose not their leaders.
1944/1945: Am I a joke to you?
That wasn't "everything". In here, they'll get humbled and undermined before WW2 even started.
Please do a part 2.
Hello, Very Nice vidéo ! Could you please make a "What if everything Went perfect for italy" ?
Transitions🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!
Give us a part 2!
I am once again asking for your Second Punic War video
cool panel change effect
Holy shit this was refreshing
Just me who noticed "every modern empire"?? Finally!!!
What if everything went terrible for France
What if everything went PERFECT for the Weimar Republic?
That one hasn't been done much. Good one.
I certainly do not like these new transitions. I would like it more if it faded out again like in older videos. These transitions aren't smooth at all anymore and are rather distracting in my opinion.
I'm not sure I like these new transitions, they hurt my eyes. Apart from that, great video!
Imagine WWII but Germany is Italy's useless teammate, struggling with Denmark and the Netherlands while the Mediterranean becomes a Roman lake?
Loving the tchaikovsky :)
The new transitions are great between maps, but not petween pictures
I haven't seen this yet i hope it good
Why does the CNT flag look like the Cartoon Network logo-
I'd be curious about where this goes from here. In particular, the idea that the Soviet Union would be able to expand its economy without Operation Barbarossa and the disruptions therefrom suggests an interesting Communist vs Capitalist dynamic during the back half of the 20th Century. It's likely that we'd have a "soft Cold War" where diplomacy and supporting proxies take place without being under the shadow of atomic weapons (which would not be needed without an ascendant Axis).
Good video
What if italy join the allies insted if the axis? (Good video btw👍)
Bro can you do a video on What if everything went perfect for Afghanistan.
Please do: what if Poland joined Axis (Ribbentrop-Beck Scenario)
You should continue making videos about chinese warlord era
Video idea: what if everything went PERFECT for Sweden
Possible history idea: what if the 9th of may tragedy escalated.
Context: In 1989 massive protest accured in Tbilisi,Georgia after several days of protest the Soviet central government sent troops to Georgia, firing at peaceful protesters, after this the Soviet central government decided to send more troops to Tbilisi but Zviad Gamsakhurdia swayed Gorbachev and halted tanks to enter tbilisi and the situation calmed down. And i am wondering how could the situation could escalate if Gamsakhurdia couldn't sway Gorbachev.
I am once again asking for a video about Spain conquering china pretty please 😊😊😊
Video idea: What if Navalny took power in Russian Federation?
Axis: The Risk We Took Was Calculated!
Italy: But Man, Are We Bad At Math!
I absolutely love that line lol
I think the upload went wrong, the transitions between frames seems off, like a low bitrate.
You wanna do a "What if everything went well for the axis"?
Would be interesting to see if, by starting to stack the luck in the Axis' favour from the 1930s onward, whether it would have an impact.
Imo those kinds of videos on the axis specifically are a dime a dozen
Could you make a Xhat if everything went perfect/worst for Sri Lanka?
What if the Japanese Empire and Co-Prospertity Sphere survived WW2?
Probably a good video!
good vid
Does anyone else just love the music
I do, this clasical music is so relaxing
The 'What If Everything Went Perfect For Luxembourg' show is going to be riveting.
What if Adolf hitler became a super saiyan in 1945?
0:35 Germans accualy had more forces on border with france in september 1939 than france had on border with germany. Germany was fully mobilized the day war broke out, and the french started mobilization around 2-3 september. So breaking german lines early would have simmilar results to1914 when french army almost broke due to failed offensive to alsace
In fact this scenario is better for the Axis than our timeline, considering coups against the regimes in Germany and Italy: Germany doesn't lose territories in the east and is not divided and Japan isn't nuked
The timeline makes me happy
Babe wake up new possible history video
Could you do a what if everything went perfectly for britain?