Star Trek: Picard Episode 8 IS A 1/10! - ANGRY RANT & REVIEW!
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We Give Up! The latest Episode has hit ROCK BOTTOM, where do we go from here? This is the worst trek we've ever seen. Mourn with us and share in our pain by watching our Review!
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If 20 years ago you would tell someone "the best form of star trek entertainment is watching other people trash talk it" they would laugh in your face
That'd be right after season 1 of ENT, so I probably would have believed that
@@DirkPiddlemark Enterprise wasn't that bad, and was getting pretty good by the end but unfortunately the damage was done and didn't have the ratings to justify continuing the show. I would have liked three more seasons like TNG, DS9, and VOY. The show still had a lot to offer.
@@emperorgizmo3014 i just watched TNG, DS9, VOY, and then ENT, and i liked all of them tbh,but this new trek is something else. The best new trek stuff is lower decks lol, even then the best parts of that show are the references to past shows lol
I would argue Lower Decks is the best form of star trek atm, I am not a huge trekie fan, but the amount of actual attention to lore the show does is pretty great
I'm not so sure, "Enterprise" was airing in 2002 and it wasn't very popular, the entire franchise practically died with Voyager.
*Halo* - We have bad writers.
*ST: Picard* - Hold my beer đș
ST: Picard - We have woke writers with an amnesiac consultant.
I felt that
@@Foreststrike Star Trek has always been "woke". But it's never been this poorly written and heavy-handed. I genuinely don't think there's anything of worth here for *anyone*
Fingers crossed for season 3 đđ€Ł
More like ''Hold my piss jug'' lol
@@Foreststrike people who use the word âwokeâ completely just invalidates their arguments/criticism. Like stop using buzzwords.
Its impressive how bad the writers are.
Normally bad writing is hard to identify but holy hell they set the standard for terrible writing.
Akiva Goldsman, Michael Chabon, Kirsten Beyer, and Alex Kurtzman should be ashamed of what they made.
Their personalist disorder requires them to be based on shame. Just they are unaware they should feel shame until sane minds explain it to them.
Michael Chabon doesn't care, he is quoted as saying he wrote S1 the way he did to basically troll the loyal fanbase and trigger them.
Kurtzman has been stinking up the entertainment biz for years with his half-baked 'mystery box' nonsense, JJTrek, Bayformers, Amazing Spiderman, The Mummy, he's a pro at trampling established IPs with his shitty writing and story ideas.
Along with 20 executive producers! Wow what a shit show this crap is.
@Eduardo Mendez BINGBINGBING!!! You got it!
I love how everybody deals with the episode differently.
OJ: in visible pain
Alex: dead inside
AJ: NYEH NYEH NYEH NYEH DO A LITTLE DANCE
Never seen a single episode, but I'll gladly watch Joe's reviews on it
Well thats just very dumb of you then isn't it? You allow others to determine the fate of this show because all youve heard about comes from other ppl. Are you ever wondering why "reviewers" like alex dont like most of the shows 80% of time? thats because they look for stuff normal ppl like us dont even notice until specifically is being pointed out. Who knows if "YOU" would end up loving this show despite others very hate torwards it? There must be at least few movies or shows you like that others hate and you're there just wondering why and how come they hate it so much
Me too Patrick. I just giving Joe more views.
Me too. This way I get a synopsis and an entertaining review ad well.
@@fadumankagan997 because I don't have an interest in the show anyways. Yeah, maybe it's better than Joe and crew says it is, but I find them entertaining so I'll watch them. Besides, I don't have Paramount+ to begin with.
Because this show is not for non progressive people.i am not helping the people who support this and made this.let them burn money.i will support people and shows that support my politics.
7: She's eating lithium ions from batteries to get assimilation metals. Next Scene: Shows Jurati eating car batteries. Not only does she not die from eating Lead and Sulfuric Acid, IT'S NOT EVEN THE SAME KIND OF BATTERY. and that's just a minor rant..
Maybe if she ate a whole Tesla..
@@MrProthall if that happens maybe Musk will offer to buy CBS then so we can get somethign good out of that in the end.
Thatâs over the top bad⊠thatâs to be expected but the subtle hint at the single change that altered the future is stupid bad⊠very very stupid. Rewatch the Soong and Agnus lab scene⊠it will slowly sink in. You might not have noticed but your brain did.
It didn't show the type of car batteries. While I do think this show is trash, if they were electric car batteries it would suffice
@@topclips1872 I donât think the production could afford several Ford Fusions let alone Chevy Volts to illustrate a focus on consuming lithium-ion.
The differences between the writing on the nee Star Trek shows and The Orville is SHOCKING. I have NO HOPE for ANY future Trek anymore. Itâs an easy fix, but they wonât fix it.
Lower Decks is the best Star Trek since DS9.
@@greenhill004 i would say since voyager, but i do like it plenty
@@youtubeaccount697 Lower Decks is 100 times better than Voyager on it's best bipolar day.
They need to sell the IP.
@@PlayfullWithFire They need to hire sci-fi writers. Where the hell is Manny Coto? He wrote the 4th season of Enterprise and Odyssey 5. He should be running Star Trek.
I'm newer to star trek myself. Started watching TNG a year ago and finished it in a month. I loved it so much. Then I heard about Picard and all I could think was 'wow, what perfect timing'. The show honestly makes me sad. It feels like I just found Star Trek and it's already over. I watched Deep Space Nine next. I have Voyager and I think a couple others. And then it's over. THIS is Star Trek now. And that's sad.
Well done for paying enough attention to the old shows that you could quote Gul Dukat's "and that's sad" line. :)
What's really messed up? SOMEHOW, this entire series has an average score of 7.4 on IMDB. That's horrifying that so many people think this is quality tv
And 90% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Just means the âprofessionalâ reviewers got big fat bribes. More was spent on getting positive reviews than on writing the show.
its in times like these its important to remember how averages work.
Most people probably just gave the show a 5 or 6 out of 10, with some going way lower, but a solid amount of shills and possibly bots give it straight 10s, which in the end average out at around 7.
@@TheBmb2jn some critics are drunk
@@TheBmb2jn Rotten Tomatoes reviews are only for the first episode or two. And anything that's slightly positive is considered fresh.
I feel genuinely bad for Mike Stoklasa having to watch this show.
I thought he threw in towel in the crapper and lit a match.
How embarrassing.
Those reviews are amazing, so I hope he keeps suffering for our entertainment. That may sound harsh, and Iâm mostly kidding, but heâs made plenty of his friends suffer through shit for his sake too. ;P
He's back on the drink after this
@@RamblesBrambles 'back' implies he was ever off the drink
I'm more and more convinced the line "people are stuck in the past" is some kind of jab to fans saying "this is not Picard, nor it is Star Trek". Like, forget the past, kill it if you have to.
This is like that asshole who did Star Wars 8 going 'Trying something different!'
That's fine, when different is fucking stupid is not fine.
Exactly finally someone smart cos i understood that line just as you did. I like this show very much despite the critics.
@@jsantiago38 As long as we agree this isn't Picard nor Star Trek, I'm fine with you liking it. IMO they should have used some courage, and they should have done theyr own stuff. Even with Patrick Stuart, I don't mind seeing him in other roles not star-trek related.
Ray SOLO
The only reason people are trapped in the past is because the future these wokists present is a dead end.
Patrick Stewart being part of this and totally onboard with this is what really hurts. At least Mark Hamill came out and said how they did Star Wars was wrong.
I think Carrie Fisher hated what they were doing but sadly we will never get to hear what she really thought.
Maybe it's time to accept that Stewart's getting old. :(
also Jeri Ryan..
Patrick Stewart, despite how great he was as the original Picard in TNG, actually didn't like playing the character. I'm pretty sure he (the actor) doesn't understand nor like Star Trek, so I'm not surprised he's on board with this dumpster fire. He's partly to blame.
They're systematically destroying Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future
How would the Borg Queen able to eat batteries if she is in a human's body? Wouldn't the host die after the first few bites?
it's not even the same kind of battery! the queen needs Lithium Ion but then she goes and eats lead acid ones from cars omg
@@cschmelzer83 who expects to have logic and science in a Nu Trek show? Batteries go brrr!
Why does the borg queen wants to stop the mission ? That future has no Borg in it besides herself.
Why didnt she just replicate the materials she needed when she was in their ship an episode ago ?
@@Azhrei2000 đ
Two quotes from Mr Plinkett:
"Star Trek Picard is the most disappointing thing since Star Trek Discovery"
"Star Trek Picard is neither Star Trek nor Picard."
Both of which are correct.
We need another Mr. Plinket review.
star trek discovery was disappointing
@@Marinealver They're doing reviews on new Picard - it's hilarious and sad at the same time XD
Alex is always so concise and witty with his disgust, I love it
It's funny because I think at first, most people (including myself) were like Who TF is this Alex guy!?! But time has proven that he really is a perfect additional to the show.
When I was a kid, I remember arguments about which was better: Star Wars or Star Trek, despite them being virtually nothing alike. Who knew the common ground weâd all end up sharing would be when modern day writers and even our own heroes would turn against us or be killed off in favor a ânewer, betterâ version.
Picard is supposed to be a show about characters trying to deal with past tragedies. But the writers are too myopic and limited in their experience and ability to tackle such a complex subject. Star Trek has always dealt with trauma and tragedies. Worf's parents were killed by the Romulans, Beverly's husband was killed on an away mission, Sisko's wife was killed by the Borg, Kira was a terrorist, several of Voyager's crew were Maquis, Seven was a Borg, Kim was Kim, etc. But old Trek showed that different people dealt with trauma in different ways, and different kinds of trauma affect people differently. A survivor of war wasn't affected the same way as someone abandoned by their parents. They were dramatic when they needed to be dramatic, but they used tact and subtlety when it was appropriate.
In Discovery and Picard, no one knows how to handle their trauma. Everyone is crippled by it, their lives are consumed by it. It seems like the writers think that trauma impacts everyone the same way, regardless of the type of trauma or the person being affected.
Although, I will say that John de Lancie is great as Q. The writing is terrible but de Lancie's acting is just so good. Imagine how great Q would be if the writers gave him good dialogue.
This is what happens when a generation is raised with participation trophies....eventually they get jobs, and as a writer, they have absolutely nothing to draw from in terms of personal experiences.
@@therotten6152 Or maybe it's just shitty writers who are more focused on the cash, and you shouldn't use it as a soapbox to complain about "kids these days with their rap music" since there are dozens of series that approach mental health with a smarter approach written by that same participation generation.
âKim was Kimâ that literally made me lol
Your explanation of what the Picard show should be about is exactly why it's terrible Trek. Star Trek is never supposed to be about characters. It should always be about philosophy, ideas, and characters are there for sub-plot but not for conflict between themselves. This is what Roddenberry Trek is, and why the new Trek fails.
@@therotten6152 The two main showrunners for Picard are Alex Kurtzman, who's 48, and Akiva Goldsman, who's 59. They're just terrible writers, it has nothing to do with which generation they're from.
I canât believe how bad this show and current Star Trek are. They need to get new writers who actually care about Star Trek. Iâll seriously take episodes that are as good as bottom tier episodes of classic Trek at this point.
It's what happens when you hire woke writers
We are in a timeline where ST Enterprise Season 5 didn't exist
I'll watch first season of Enterprise over this mess.
Last I checked the recent films from the past few decades werenât that bad and both Lower Decks and Prodigy were pretty decent shows on Paramount Pollyâs. So current Star Trekâs not entirely THAT BAD. I would suggest not judging the whole thing because of one poorly done show.đ
@@aqmohra4 Unfortunately itâs just the trend in Hollywood at the moment. Just give it time and it will be flushed like the turd it is.
How do these bad shows keep getting made? Are people afraid to offer criticism anymore? How are these writers with no talent trusted to write for these high budget shows?
Quota based and Check box based hiring practices. This is what you get when the crazies run the show.
This is why they went to streaming. No need to have ratings that matter or public opinion to be considered....just put out whatever shlock you want and the entire streaming service is all but a money laundering operation anyways. Note they won't release ratings, viewer numbers, or subscriber count from month to month?
Because it all sucks, I'm sure. But it doesn't matter. There's an agenda here, and that's what it's truly about. Because it's not making money.
Trying to make it appeal to as broad a base as possible. Price projections show you make more on avg doing x, you so do x. How capitalism works
26:35 Alex: "I mean, it's not a zero because we hit play and something happened" - best line :D
That aged well
@@sagalvirdi3603 Hah! Yeah :)
As soon as they released a trailer for next season DURING this season, you knew this show had no hope. I've never heard of that ever happening in a major network TV show.
They are truly pioneers..
Yeah. They just totally shit the bed with this one.
Well yeah most TV shows don't film 2 seasons at once out of fear the main actor dies of old age
I think it happened with Batwoman, which is also a top notch dumpsterfire of extraordinary proportions.
Itâs either desperation or bravado
Iâm just enjoying the fireworks
Star Trek was about hope, a bright future for humanity. This nonsense has nothing of that. It's morals are terrible, the society is very different from TNG, it's trash. The writing is so bad, they ignore what Star Trek was meant to be and they ignore the world building.
Great review.
Its because the writers don't have any hope. They only can make things worse.
Because thatâs what wokeness is, a dystopian ideology specifically created to undermine everything beautiful. The destruction of all beloved media is deliberately designed to demoralize us before the Great Reset.
Even DS9 Pale Moon Light, dear god the entire episode was literally bearing his soul about every step he took towards the road to hell. He knew he lied to himself about each one of those steps. Then deleting the entire log entry leaving the audience to make judgement on whether or not his sins were justified. Dear gawd what happened to good Trek!!!
they just try to be dystopian like blade runner. But even both blade runner movies had a hopefull message and endings
It was different for the different shows. TNG was about technology being great but also possibly a grave danger (Borg), but overall that humanity will overcome and can grow. Voyager was about overcoming xenophobia and also adaptablity to a rapidly changing 'landscape' of culture and so on.. This show is about "We went back in time, fucked evdrything up, also Picard old.
FROM THE WRITER'S ROOM: "I have an amazing idea. Let's bring in Q for season 2, but we will make him mortal and strip him of everything that made Q great!!"
I often think about the futurama episode of star trek and how pained they were doing conventions and dealing with fans. It was satire sure but sometimes I think, if you hate someone enough and want to make them suffer? This might be the result, it feels intentional.
I honestly think the writers are intentionally trying to piss off the legacy fans of the franchise. There is really no other reason.
This review is a 10/10
With a badass seal of approval
Damn right outlaw
26:09 you go to this guy for your reviews.. i guess if youre 12
@@Donnie_Oculus coming from the person who plays a way out and VRchat with only 24 subs? I knoe you are going to think i'm one to talk because i have zero subs and some mindless insults. But let me tell you something about fans we watch things to escape the world that is otherwise terrible. Shows like star trek gave us hope. You entitled to your opinion but to insult someone's intelligence by saying they are some stupid child? newsflash 12 yo's are so much smarter than any of us on here.
@@Donnie_Oculus stop commenting and go watch more Picard, no reason to be upset because they don't like your shitty new star strek show
Alexâs rants are just hilarious.
âThis is more Patrickâs Stewartâs writing,
and heâs not burning as bright, and his brain doesnât work anymore, and heâs writing this garbage show, and his acting isnât good anymore, and everyone hates him now, and this is tarnishing his reputation, and I will purposely never buy his wifeâs music and tell everyone I can not too. His dog is cute as F$&k but F$&k Patrick Stewart. â
Jesus christ lol
10/10 would watch and read that rant again.
This show ALONE solved the debate of Kirk vs Picard because Patrick Stewart completely ruined his reputation.
@@NathanCassidy721 it's quite sad actually.
13:44
Who misses the days when Star Trek: Enterprise and Star Trek: Nemesis were the worst things Star Trek had to offer?
Enterprise was brilliant....
For all the faults Nemesis had, Shinzon was a far more interesting character than any of the goofballs on Star Trek: Picard
@@szlava3641 Picard should have dealt more into the Romulans. Bring back Tarsha Yar's daughter.
@@greenhill004 Agreed. 100%
Let's take it a step further. If they want to connect it to Star Trek 2009, where Romulus is destroyed by a supernova, why not show us what happened to the Romulans AFTER Shinzon before the supernova?
@@szlava3641 Literally anything would be better than what we have gotten since then
*This episodes award for stupidest script moment goes to*
An FBI who spent his entire life searching for ALIENS because of a childhood trauma. Finally catches an alien, who fully admits they are from the future and not only trying to save the earth but the entire universe.
FBI Man: ok, your free to leave... I just got fired, bye
The way you know the writers think viewers are stupid is when Rios in this episode tells the doctor something along the lines of "The ship is in diagnostic mode looking for Borg subroutines" and the doctor looks at him as if he just said a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish.
It's as if the writers think the doctor character is from the 1800s and has no basic concept of what computers are or what the words "diagnostic" or "subroutine" might mean.
They are supposed to be in the year 2024. The only part of that she would not understand is "Borg", but your average person would still grasp the general idea of what he is saying.
Then on the other hand you have technology that is way beyond 2024, like the flying drones that project a UV shield and the completely nonsensical bio-security at the NASA event.
It's completely bizarre.
lol, I hate it when there's the 'talk English, dammit!' line in a show. It makes literally everybody look stupid.
If I used the word "subroutines" at a typical job... I'd get looked at like I'm an expert.
People really are that dumb. We cannot even define what a Woman is anymore.
We are really. that. dumb.
@@MsLuckoftheDraw TALK ENGLISH......8-12 year old me watching Stargate or Star Trek going err it makes sense to me buddy.
Hate to burst your bubble, but the *average Joe* would (and does) not know what a "subroutine" is. Even "diagnostic mode" is incomprehensible⊠people understand both words, but not the combination. Ask average people. So, not people in your bubble. Random strangers on some city street (or random people on some village street, the remoter the better :D)
Seeing these guys with just regular tees just means that they have given up on the show. Itâs tragic as they had high hopes for the series and kept on their star enterprise uniforms. But time and time as Star Trek has gone downhill itâs a clear sign that Joe, OJ, and Alex are done playing nice.
They took em off last review I believe
The shirts came off last review and to be honest, they have never really been nice to this show.
Man I don't want to sound mean but OJ needs to do a better job at collecting his thoughts and speaking clearly. Most of the time he sounds like a child who doesn't fully understand something when he speaks.
Not a Star Trek hater. In fact Iâm just old enough to have watched TNG when it was originally airing.
But this show is just so goddamn difficult to watch. From the pacing, to the plot, to some of the weird story elements they choose to focus on its all been a slog. I havenât even watched ep 8 yet. Fuck, I havenât watched anything past ep 4.
Plus, is it just me, or does Patrick Stewart seem to be acting in another show complete and separate from the rest of the cast?
What sent me over the edge in this episode was when Guinan says she can't wait to meet him in the future, yet they have already met in the past when they were hanging out with Mark Twain :/
TNG doesn't happen in this timeline
@@protoroc please tell me you're joking
AJ, OJ, and Alex reached Mike Stoklasa and Rich Evans levels of Star Trek depression
This is how Patrick Stewart will be remembered. As a clown.
Doctor strange 2 might save him đ€Ł
This show is either amazing, or pure nonsense.
If it tries to accurately depict how future people will become more and more stupid, including making sure that Picard's age comes hand in hand with dementia, then the show is brilliant!
If they actually think that this is really good, disregarding the dementia factor, then there are no words for it.
I don't know what's scarier. The thought that actual self-responsible adults wrote the script (in crayon, presumably) ... or once the script was written, some other self-responsible adult said "Yes, that's exactly what Star Trek is. That's what we want!".
I like that Joe defended his friend Alex's thoughts on this show. He is right, don't get angry at him for having an opinion on a show.
Imagine going from 'Scott Pilgrim vs the World' to eating car batteries in this dumpster fire. I feel for this lady.
How did everybody on set think that was an acceptable scene?
@@Argornash money đ° đ€ đž
My Stepmother is An Alien Kim Basinger sucks dry D cells and drinks car battery it was fun late 80th movie so clearly even this idea is stolen by Kurtzman
I'm just gonna say it shes got amazing jugs too I mean she should just go full Seven of Nine in Voyager if she becomes Borg Queen. Wear a tight fitting cyberpunk bustier shirt and make everyone her slave.
I know exactly what you're talking about Joe, with the music overpowering the scene. Like the music was written for an important moment but that important moment just doesn't exist in the story lol. They just forgot to write the climax but the music for it is playing anyways.
I can't think of an example right now but I know exactly what he's talking about
I miss the OG music and themes from TNG, DS9 and Voyager; they had a feel about them that just sung Star Trek. As a professional musician who makes an income solely from teaching and playing music, I find Discovery and Picard's soundtracks to be boring and uninspiring. Another example of these current shows having no grounding in the source material and the particular aesthetics that made Star Trek what it was.
Didn't Destiny 2 do something like that?
I've noticed that happening a lot in video games, I think I remember in anthem it would be playing like some epic battle music while you fought just regular old common enemy types during a story moment, but the music is acting like its some ultimate battle against an overwhelming foe.
music for a non existant climax - westworld season 2. at the end of the 7th episode they played beethoven's 7th symphony (geddit? 'cause it's the 7th episode...) as some antagonists we've had for about 3-4 episodes get killed by the hosts. not even the hosts breaking out of the park and terrorising the world at large, just them wiping out some damage control pmcs that had a habit of wrestling robots when they ran out of ammo. there were still several episodes left in the season and they made it as if it was the biggest thing in the world
Alex was spot on about the transporters. It wasn't even the Vulcans who invented the transporter, it was Dr Erickson.
Theres an entire episode dedicated to him in Star Trek: Enterprise, played by Bill Cobbs.
The first few seasons of Enterprise, is no one wanting to use the transporters because theyre new and unfounded.
The Daedalus episode is when Dr Erickson comes on board to test out "new transporter technology for sub-quantum teleportation" under the guise that its to increase the range of the transporters, when in reality there was a transporter accident many years before and his son was "scrambled" and its about him trying to get his son back.
At least they stuck to the fact that the Vulcans in lore *were* often doing secret survey missions to Earth before Zefram Cochrane discovered warp technology and first contact was made in the late 21st century.
This show existing is the perfect representation of the shallow, cynical, vapid, self-obsessed, virtue-signalling, faux-enlightened time we live in. Especially when you see that despite being such blatant garbage completely disconnected from its source material it still sports a 93% critic approval rating on RT, with praises that "it finally captures the classical Star Trek spirit". What a joke.
That says more about professional critics than society as a whole, as you'll note that the regular viewers rate it at 33%.
@@VolrinSeth Note that as time has gone on, the "professional" reviews and the viewer reviews have become more and more diametrically opposed?
The "professionals" are paid to leave a good review so you'll subscribe. They're little more than paid shills at this point. Same goes for half the CZcams "reviewers" out there getting sponsors.
Good on AJ and his crew for telling it like they see it, even as it costs them revenue in a fight with CBS.
@@compmanio36 Yup
_"Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before!"_
-Star Trek
Cue TNG intro music đ¶
@@daniel_gallardo808 No, cue a loud wet fart sound and start Star Trek Picard
âSheer ducking hubrisâ
this show is like watching scary movie"s scary movie parody! It's depressing that the writers don't understand why people love star trek and what's worse is TNG and others always felt like a show talking to an educated audience. this show talks down to you and expects you to smile and ask for more. 1 out of 10
Writers don't care about their audiences anymore, they only care about _engagement_ - as long as somebody is making youtube videos about their show, it's fine. It doesn't matter if the youtube video is praising it or describing all the ways it's a dumpster fire. Matter of fact, the dumpster fire option is probably better, people stay mad a long longer than they stay impressed. And you just can't beat those kind of engagement numbers.
I'm glad that my local non-cable TV has a channel that shows TNG and all the other Star Trek shows. I was even able to see that infamous Voyager episode where Janeway and that subordinate turned into monsters and mated on an alien rock. Surprisingly suspenseful, then veered into being hilarious.
I remember when Joe first started doing movie and series reviews and his viewers were initially put off by it. But here we are, with Joe, OJ and Alex saving us from terrible shows.
Suffering is content
@@SpecialJess2 GrayStillPlays agrees
How dare they treat not only this show but Picard himself like this
Shut it down
Start Trek deserves better but modern writing is shit
oy vey
@@winterrising8738 oyoyveyoh
Patrick Stewart is very much to blame as well. A lot of this shit was his idea from the start.
The best ending to the Picard character was at the end of All Good Things. That was the perfect 'riding into the sunset' moment for him and really we didn't *need* anything more (sure we got the movies, although they had to turn Picard into Action Man, which was silly). Draw your canon line on TNG at AGT and it's all good.
This show is just stupid fan fiction of the worst kind.
I was ok with the end of nemesis when Picard is just walking through the big E's corridors with a hopeful smile for the future, I'll remember him that way.
That's my opinion on the new star wars trilogy too. Bad fan fiction. Or a really terrible alternate timeline.
@@Knight121198 That was all right, it just didn't have the same emotional impact to closing the character's arc like it did with him finally sitting down to play poker with his crewmembers and friends.
Now had they actually given him a multi-film arc and closed it in a satisfying way, then that would have been fine too, but it's like they had an idea to do so but forgot about it as soon as First Contact rolled around (The "No more Picards" incident in Generations, which could have been wrapped up with him starting a family with Beverly at the end of Nemesis.)
@@arcadeheroes_coinop Patric Stewart wanted to be an action star. That's what gimped the movies.
"Fan fiction" from Star Wars fanboys and the man behind Batman & Robin.
Wow, joe sounds so defeated at the beginning. This must have been so bad it went to the point where he raged in previous eps, to sounding depressed due to the show carrying on being this bad.
Every Soong in the family line has been an asshole - how on Earth did they make Data so agreeable? Raffi and 7 have zero chemistry and have been utterly pointless for the whole season. The show should have a been a 3 hour mini series with Picard, the pilot dude and the Jurati Borg queen. Lose the entire Soong plotline, Picards parental trauma and the FBI timewaster (not timecop like he was in the Voyager series) and just focus on the death of Q - that could've been an interesting story.
I feel like Data was a reject honestly. Lore is actually the true creation of Dr. Soong. Being a reject Data rebelled against his creator and decided to be the best of humanity embodiment.
Am I the only one expecting Strange New Worlds to be another show where the marketing and first episode is better than the actual show turns out to be?
I will never know, usually it is best to leave the corpse in its grave.
I like how we're not even angry anymore, we're just fucking tired...and sad...
Yep. I don't even bother getting mad. You make a trash, woke show. K. I have no interest, no emotion, no thought spared for it afterwards.
@@Kronos0999 I'm gay, a woman and not white and even I hate this show despite the fact that the writers are specifically trying to target it towards me lol
@@rileymachelle4088 Yeah, that pfp already speaks volumes. But hopefully you're not an avid Twatter user (even though you use Twatter) and are normal.
@@Kronos0999 I agreed with you on something and you're already assuming the worst. My pfp is Ramona from Scott Pilgrim...what's the negative connotations there lol. Also I don't have Twitter because I don't hate myself
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According to dialogue in the Star Trek: Enterprise (ENT) episode "Daedalus", the transporter was invented in early 22nd century by Dr. Emory Erickson
The score thing that Joe comments on is something I noticed in the movie 'Tomorrow war'. The soundtrack has to do the heavy lifting of a scene that is falling flat on it's face.
This isn't the prime timeline. Proof: Picard's brother doesn't exist and Guinan has never met Picard before in 1890's in "Time's arrow"
They did make an offhanded comment about Picard's brother being in boarding school. But the whole thing with Picard's parents make no sense because it was shown that both of his parents lived to old age. It just makes no sense that Picard wouldn't know about his mother's mental illness. Picard has a picture of his mother where she looked like she was in her 70's or 80's, so she probably didn't die until Picard was in his 40's. And she never had any problems with her mental health after that one incident and they never talked about her mental health during all that time? Especially it's the 24th century where they have the technology to easily keep track of hereditary health issues. Starfleet would have checked Picard's health and family history for mental illness.
You know they'd be pissed if they give ratings in the title
Even Deep Space Nine gave a more honorable tribute within the first 1 minute of the first episode of Picard and his adventures than this hot garbage has
Yeah but it's not a good idea if they want people to click and watch the video, a lot of viewers watch because of the payoff at the end with the rating like most reviews.
Joe -"Jerardi murders the entire original cast and crew"
CBS - "No That's our job"
Q didnât realize he was dying until he lost his powers. So we still donât know what his motivation was for doing any of this in the first place.
Honestly the animated show where Kirk fights a Mayflower pilgrim guy with magic to save Satan is more Star Trek than Picard S2
I never thought I'd see the day when literally all the hope, critical thinking, nuances and decent allegory would be gone from Star Trek. I grew up on Star Trek and it helped shape many of my better world views but had it been this Kurtzman stuff instead? I'd never have cared and just found something else watch. When the world needed a better world with humanity at its best and full of hope. Kurtzman and his team removed it all from the series.
Just it truly hurts me. I remember sharing ToS with my dad who liked old shows. TNG was the show we had pizza nights to watch and DS9 was the one shared with my brother in debates. While Voyager since we didn't have cable was the one my aunt taped and gave us to enjoy. Both as a solid memory and what the series stood for about humanity it truly hurts me that this is what it is now.
26:09 you go to this guy for your reviews.. LOL talk about critical thinking, im sure thats real important to you xD..
Same here. I grew up in a ghetto part of town that hope was a luxury in the 80's and 90's. I remember watching all the Star Trek Franchises growing up and how it gave me hope for a better future. It pushed me into getting into engineering and philosophy rather than selling drugs and getting into gangs like my friends ended up. Seeing an optimistic future is quite powerful for a young mind.
oh jfc
I can really feel your dissapointment in that comment. Its the same for me, many wonderful memories, many life lessons learned are trampled on by lesser humans. Thanks for sharing.
RIP - Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, Lord Of The Rings, Terminator etc.....
It's amazing how each episode gets worse than it's previous. 1 story stretched to death over 10 episodes.
Season 3 is also finished already so I'll expect no improvement there.
I was hoping the CIA might torture Picard only for him to say "There are 4 lights!!!"
I think a great deal of the failure of Picard can be laid at the feet of Patrick Stewart. The studio must have been so desperate to have him do this that they have allowed him too much influence on the show. The whole mommy issues thing from a 100 yr old man and bringing on Stewart's third wife to sing are just total cringe. I try to tell myself that the real Picard is dead and that this replacement robot is malfunctioning. What a terrible mess of a show. Such a huge disappointment this season.
Watched an interview with Stewart after Picard was announced.. he kept telling the interviewer how much influence over the writer's room he had ..how he hated having to wear uniforms etc.. Had hope but didn't watch after that .. It's Stewarts Picard and in his own words ... He doesn't understand Sci-Fi.. You're totaly correct
"Such a huge disappointment this season" This season? The entire series is a disappointing mess.
A 1 out of 10, wow, it's been a little while since we've had one of those.
I have a feeling we might see the first-ever negative scored (-1) review by the time this season is wrapped up
@@pinewolfpresents Well said my friend..totally agree đ
The writing this season wasn't even done by the show runners, it's like they're just phoning it in. Most of the writing seems to have been done by inexperienced mostly female writers, who don't even have a wikipedia page. For at least one of them, this is the first show she's ever written for.
But diversity is our strength LMFAO
Wait, why does it matter what gender they are? The keyword here is "Inexperienced," not "Female."
@@SteelWithIt very true. What matters is that they are inexperienced not there gender. I think the point he is trying to make is that they were hired for there gender not there experience.
Wether thatâs true or not the show is trash.
@@SteelWithIt inexperiences females are the things here
@@SteelWithIt because you know damn well they hired these inexperienced females over actual experiences makes for the sake of diversity, hence ruining the show thatâs why it matters
I would love to see you guys watch through and do these reviews for classic TNG, lol. Joe and Alex rewatching, and OJâs newcomer perspective.
I need to see the TrekCulture review for this, i scrubbed through it and they had 7 wins to 3 losses. I'm doubting they know how to count. I just remembered, when this was announced i was excited.....
DS9 was as dark as star trek should be. The point is the values of the future federation of logic and idealism are more valuable than immediate results. These people would wash out of the academy.
Iâm buying all the old stuff on Blu-ray and DVD. After this my support for Paramount is out the window. Itâs hard to believe Kirtzman could botch Star Trek up this bad and still have 4 more years on his contract. If anyone has hope in Strange New Worldâs then youâre a braver man than I am.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but they *know* this gutter-trash doesn't sell, yet they keep making it one after another. They make their money back on these as well. I think the whole point is that "divide and conquer" or some illuminati bs because there's no other explanation left.
The TNG blu ray box set was worth it. Shame ds9 is only on dvd but it works. The 4K original 4 movies box set was also impressive, awesome remaster.
Yeap picked up the series for all of them for a discount sale on the iTunes Store. A lot of still holds up after all this time which was very surprising to me. I canât believe anyone would actually enjoy Disc or Picard compared to previous trek great episodes and other sci-fi like the Expanse and BSG.
@@makasete30 Add Stargate SG-1 as well, grew up on that series and I love the hell out of it. Heard Farscape is pretty good too.
People are watching or they wouldn't greenlight this stuff. At this point how do you not include the Fandom in the blame of ruining the franchise?
I missed the part about the boots, I just assumed the writers just hoped we wouldn't notice them. So did the dead guy have like size 4 feet or is she swimming in those things?
Releasing that Picard Season 3 teaser, while still in the middle of Season 2, makes a lot of sense now. They knew what was coming down the pipe, and knew they'd better give people some kind of hook to keep them from bailing entirely on the series.
I'm so glad I got out of new Star Trek back in season 2 of Discovery. I thought it was shit from the beginning but I had a perverse interest in seeing how bad it could get.
However the episode where a spore derived hallucinogenic best friend of Tilly shows up and the gay doctor brings back his dead boyfriend from an alternate spore dimension were exquisite WTFs.
That episode in particular made me realise that I just couldn't put myself through this bullshit any more. It was just so painfully bad! There was also the fact that I was also watching it because I thought my partner wanted to watch it, but at the end of the episode she made it clear that she was only watching it because she thought I wanted to watch it! Lol!
Season 2 of Discovery was the best season of live action modern Trek. It was entertaining. Season 3 was beyond stupid and clearly written by people who never watched a damn episode of Star Trek.
The moment the alien dude gave birth to babies was the most woke thing I ever seen in discovery season 1 and I never watched it again lol was so creeped out
I actually knew ST Picard was on the way out when they introduced "Space Legolas". The show no longer shares any DNA with the old Star Trek shows from the golden era. Modern Star Trek is for a modern ADD audience
Per your recommendation I have not seen either season of this show. But it sounds to me as if the producer are using a movie format to tell a television story. In a movie or a novel you would have 2 or more plots that would converge somewhere in act 2 and then finish the story. In "classic" television multiple plots would be space out or hinted to throughout the main plot objective. This way the alternative plot could be revisited if it gained momentum in later seasons. The format used now is to run multiple plot to run parallel and come to a form of conclusion in case it can revisited in a future season.
I mean TOS, TNG and DS9 are considered the golden age of Star Trek and they had their ups and downs lets be real
But ,basically every new piece of content since Enterprise has been a certified turd sandwich by comparison
Like, holy hell, did somebody at the staff meeting make a drunken bet on his yearly salary on how many characters they can fuck up ?
I remember watching Picard and friends with my grandad, when I was a kid. We didn't get to spend much time together so it's always memories that have stuck. I look the old series so much and I honestly believe it taught me a lot when I was young. The only thing I have learnt from the new Picard is that I hate people and don't trust others with things that you care about
âThis show is shitâ - OJ 2022
Truly a philosopher of our time
fun fact the fbi agent is the same actor who played Lt. ducane in voyager episode relativity, would have been more fun episode if it was him 20y older and telling picard what the hell he was doing in this time frame or helping him, but then again the prime timeline doenst exist anymore hence he couldnt go back in time from that time line to current timeline, ugh temperal mechanics is sooo confusing
I think the only reason they thought of revolving the entire show around a character as loveable as Picard is because they could bank off of his appearance alone, no work required
How wrong they were
Has Joe ever given a 0/10 rating? Is that even a thing, or does he only have a 1-10 scale?
Does it matter
it's only a 1 to 10 scale
He only has a 1-10 scale. But I imagine if he could give zeroes to some things, this episode and series would be one of them.
He's said that he does have a 0/10 on the scale but it's only in extreme cases for shit that just doesn't work. Like if a bad $60 game was literally made to not start up than it's 0/10 on his scale.
The only 0/10 we've ever gotten was in the review for Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. He gives it a 1 in the review but I think he brings it down to 0 in the spoilers video lol
@@rileymachelle4088 Thank you! I will watch that video.
'as you can see we're no longer wearing our uniforms' LMAO đ. Angry Joe's disappointed voice will never fail to make me laugh
Lmaođ€Ł
I wish they could travel to the 80's or 90's and bring back some competent writers. Long live the Orville!
Shhhh. No one tell them about Orville.
Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek movie. I hope the guys review it because I would love to hear their opinion since they are such big star trek fans.
@@user-uy1rg8td1v They were going to make the TV show too until Alan Rickman died. I would have loved to see that.
It's not just Star Trek, the crime being committed by all these shows with 6-10 episode seasons is that they try to take a single story that's maybe 2 hours at best and stretch it out over 12 hours. The actual story becomes so diluted we don't care, and the filler material is rarely connected to the main story so it's pointless. Who is allowing this type of storytelling?
CBS rn: *Prepare the block/claim button!*
When you're talking about music not matching content I immediately get PTSD from Dark Knight Rises. The entire time Hans is bumping away that overwhelming Inception inspired soundtrack while Bane is mumbling about something incoherently, Batman is barking at someone, generals are staring at screens mouth agape while nothing is actually happening. It was all so comedic visually but the soundtrack was trying to tell me "This is some seriously epic shit bro. How tense are you? You're so fucking tense right now." It was jarring and made the movie even funnier imo.
Pamela opens the shower curtain revealing Bobby and it was all a dream.
Hoping for something similar. Dr. Crusher wakes Picard in his cabin on the D and he says " doctor, i just had the worst dream", cut to credits, end show.
"It keeps getting worse." Oh Joe⊠I watched the review of episode 9 before this, so⊠yeahâŠ
For episode 10, I half-expect to be able to quote one wonderful track by The Human League, "Black Hit of Space": "Then into minus figures." Ah, the next line fits perfectly: "Though nobody could understand why." :D
This just goes to show how none of these people can capture what made these shows and characters great. Everyone keeps thinking they are going to write the next best chapter of a great story but are lacking the skills of real thinking people. The actors they bring back are not the same people they once were and everything else is a cash grab. This seems to be the mainstream modern cinema we are stuck with at the moment. Wet farts splattered on a canvas and called art.đ
Great story? Huh?
âNo! _Noooooo!â_ *smashes window with phaser*
âI will not sacrifice Star Trek. Weâve made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our franchise, and we fall back. They ruin beloved characters, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn _here!_ This far, no further! And I, will make them pay, for what theyâve done!!!â
Who ?
Nah bruh LOTR is the line. Trek has never been consistently great in any of the franchises, only intermittently and hasn't done anything really good since S6 DS9.
@@DirkPiddlemark Trek has been consistently good enough to influence western culture and social lexicon and still be talked about years after it was made. Itâs just modern trek where the line should be drawn. With 24 episodes a season you are bound to have filler episodes so maybe you are being unrealistic.
It was consistently good for you, but for most it certainly was.
You sound 14. Stop being so attached to media and making it your identity. You're not cosplaying as a knight lmao.
@@TheNobleFive it was a quote and a joke my dude
Old trek: makes you think.
New trek: tells you what to think.
Couldn't care less about Picard, just came here to see how mad Joe can get! đ
It feels like old days of Angry Joe
The scene where Picard and Guinan are sitting at the interrogation table, dead silent, looking bored as f**k pretty much sums up my feelings about this entire series.
I've just started rewatching tng again and the difference between this classic and ST Picard is light years apart. I DO NOT regard any of these new star treks as canon at all!
I'm still hung up on the FBI alien nerd should've played his future Federation Time Officer character from Voyager, been the protector of any other Picard relative, and it would've made WAY MORE SENSE than what we got.
Came here for Alex's truth... sadly, he's just trapped in the past. I've talked with Paramount+ and they have assured me they will win Alex over with Picard Season 3: Raffi and Guinan's Milky Way Adventures.
Why is it that so many modern stories feel the need to be so bloated with doom and gloom. This show just want to show how bad everything is and turn it to 11, instead of giving hope like nearly every other piece of star trek media tries to do.
Because now all series has to be game of thrones... you know, it was successfull, so his formula is right for whatever else! Makes sense.
Because it's the current thing and mindless sheep need to consoom the worst and most degenerate content possible.
There is one positive to all this Star Trek crap. It made me discover Red Letter Media and i've been binge watching them all week, so thanks Joe!
I love Mr.Pinkled reviews!
They're the best. What have you watched so far?
I envy you, I wish I could rewatch the Plinkett reviews of Generations, etc. for the first time, lol.
@@knightslegion1731 I've been going backwards through the half in the bag playlist. There's an awful lot of stuff to get through
The most disappointing thing--you had TWO killers inhabiting one body and neither one killed Raffi!!!!
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The biggest annoyance for me is the fact that, just 30 years prior, the Q fought a civil war to maintain their immortality and power...but now the Continuum is totally happy with their impending collapse??? And how could the Q even be taken by surprise when they exist in all times simultaneously? The line that he looks upon a darkening temporal horizon? Dude, you're not bound by time...so just stay in the "past" forever. Problem solved! In Quinn's trial Q says "immortality is one of the defining qualities of being a Q." Yet after existing for tens of billions of years and having "seen everything, heard everything" they're caught completely unawares and now they're "dying." Wtf đ
Why do people even watch this? Like, I can't even be bothered to be mad about any woke series anymore. I hear they're butchering another series/movie. "k" is all my response is. I don't bother watching pretty much any new media from hollywood.
Anime is where its at and old movies from hollywood and *some* new movies; I'm talking like 1 in 100.
@@Kronos0999 Agreed about anime. People have been trotting out Lower Decks as the "best" Trek show currently airing. But when compared to something like Legend of the Galactic Heroes or the Space Battleship Yamato remake, Lower Decks is painfully mediocre at best (in my humble opinion of course!).
@@Latinkon Anime has always been better and that just gets exacerbated by the woke shows.
I just hope that wokeness doesn't come to anime shows, however I don't think it ever will. The weakest link are the female authors.
The most shocking part about this was that everyone had hoped that it would be good.
Remember how we got here. Voyager ends, they give you Enterprise (which was a little rushed and didn't overlap), then you got discovery, which is bad, very bad. Why would you think Picard could save it, when he was only one of many, good detailed and likeable characters.
The 2009+ Jar Jar movies started this spiral.
@@badlaamaurukehu you mean Jar Jar Abrams đđ
So Jerati (probably misspelled, don't care, she doesn't deserve this level of thought) eats cars.
Literally Blondie - Rapture
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night eating cars
You eat Cadillac, Lincolns too
Mercury and Subaru
I am hoping they use that Sci-Fi time travel trope where they fix the time line and the none of the events of this season happened in the first place. Or at the very least, have Beverly crusher wake up the morning to the sound of a shower running where she discovers Jean-Luc and it is revealed she dreamt the entire season. đ