Star Trek: Picard Mid-Season Angry Review

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    AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex review the Mid-Season point of Star Trek: Picard! Episodes 2, 3, 4 and 5! What's happened since the debut!? Well it's not good. Our Fears have been confirmed. What we think and can the series pull off the Finale? Find out!
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  • @xamalion7334
    @xamalion7334 Pƙed 4 lety +1090

    In First Contact, Picard himself explained to Lily Sloane how humanity surpassed capitalism. It’s unbelievable that those writers didn’t watch the source material.

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 Pƙed 4 lety +104

      that movies was even directed by frakes. whodirected the last two episodes. i guess at this point he's just cashing a cheque and laughing at how messed up they made this crap show as he slips off to go work on the orville.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver Pƙed 4 lety +16

      Class Warfare, Star Trek and TNG Federation of Planets was not Socialist Enough!!!

    • @Yegor06
      @Yegor06 Pƙed 4 lety +45

      No one honor or watches source material anymore.
      Thats my vision as a creator you don't like it well you can f**k off you goddamn entitled incel.
      Sad life when entertainment become soulless cash grabbing corporate gas lighting agenda machine.

    • @tyrongkojy
      @tyrongkojy Pƙed 4 lety +32

      To be fair that's only on Earth and federation controlled territories. INDIVIDUAL humans can still engage in commerce, akin to Mudd. Remember Mudd? He used money. Klingons use money. That said, it's good sci fi, but bad Star Trek.

    • @stardu5t796
      @stardu5t796 Pƙed 4 lety +36

      Patrick Stewart is one of the writers..lol Star wars sucks now star trek sucks, is there anything left???

  • @CaptainSovereign
    @CaptainSovereign Pƙed 4 lety +145

    Star Trek fan:I fcking hate this..
    Star Wars fan: I know how you feel bro...

  • @DarkNova50
    @DarkNova50 Pƙed 4 lety +169

    "Somehow, this is all wrong. This is not the way it's supposed to be." - Guinan

    • @vanaik
      @vanaik Pƙed 4 lety +1

      I just rewatched that episode yesterday. So old and still vastly superior to this crap.

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Pƙed 4 lety

      YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT THE SITH NOT JOIN THEM T.T

    • @deaconx
      @deaconx Pƙed 3 lety

      Somehow, Palpatine returned.

  • @lefr33man
    @lefr33man Pƙed 4 lety +282

    I want Q to appear in the last episode and say: "Jean-Luc, isn't this reality a complete bore? let's get back to how things were, shall we?"

    • @grimreamer2512
      @grimreamer2512 Pƙed 4 lety +17

      What you wrote there has more thought put into it than the actual plot of STP. I want to like this, but it's hot garbage

    • @whade62000
      @whade62000 Pƙed 4 lety +21

      “You having a good laugh now, Q? Does it amuse you to think of me living out the rest of my life as a dreary man hated and yelled at by every younger woman in charge?”
      “I gave human civilization something most species never experience: a second chance. And now all you can do is complain?”
      “I can't live out my days as that person. That universe is bereft of passion... and imagination! That is not who I am!”

    • @noobandfriends2420
      @noobandfriends2420 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      TNG did this in the episode "Tapestry".

    • @generalsirc2615
      @generalsirc2615 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Omg yes please! Q save us for Qs sake save us!!!!

    • @smokyg1161
      @smokyg1161 Pƙed 4 lety

      As Charlie brown once said: That's It!!!!!!!

  • @jeremiahpapa7868
    @jeremiahpapa7868 Pƙed 4 lety +577

    Mike Stoklasa's take on Picard. "A slow car ride to a cliff."

    • @Ade5
      @Ade5 Pƙed 4 lety +43

      Yeah, Picard is such a fucking slow series.. Everytime an episode ends, im always ending up thinking.. "did anything happen in this episode besides that one thing?".. Nothing like classic star trek..

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 Pƙed 4 lety +52

      Even better is how Rich Evans described this show:
      "This is written by people,who know even less about the Star Trek universe,than our Jay."
      ("Jay" as in Jay Baumann,the third RLM guy,who is not really into Star Trek,unlike Rich & Mike who are big Trekkie fanbois.)

    • @Valiyus
      @Valiyus Pƙed 4 lety +13

      Maybe the show is trying to "break new ground"

    • @russellarcher5181
      @russellarcher5181 Pƙed 4 lety +14

      I'm just watching, hoping Mike's Predictions come true; everyone with a Ninja Sword in a hallway *vs* Loqutus
      My dad predicted that KHAN!!? was behind it all along
      My prediction is Picard is the Android

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 Pƙed 4 lety +14

      Russell Archer I really hope so. The franchise is already a dumbed-down schlocky dumpster fire at this point. Trek is dead. Might as well go all out with the dumbest shit possible now.
      Locutus dual wielding phaser swords vs the entire bland cast in an exploding Borg cube.

  • @douglasammirati8450
    @douglasammirati8450 Pƙed 4 lety +658

    Imagine if Q came to judge this mankind. Wouldn't last three seconds.

    • @mr_incognito9305
      @mr_incognito9305 Pƙed 4 lety +35

      That starfleet bitch would walk up as he snaps his fingers. “SHEER.FUCKING.HUBRIS”

    • @scottyfox6376
      @scottyfox6376 Pƙed 4 lety +59

      Im sure Q would delete the first Woke asshole he met..😄

    • @DresdenShuffle
      @DresdenShuffle Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Would be great, it's not like the world is going great anyways lol

    • @samdog8087
      @samdog8087 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      Q was right.......Hes gotta pop in and break Picards balls.

    • @ItsJustMe0585
      @ItsJustMe0585 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      Doesn't Q know everything, including the future? Maybe this is why he was messing with them so much in TNG. If it all was going to just devolve in a couple decades, I'd mess with that dummy society too. :P

  • @manishlimbu1
    @manishlimbu1 Pƙed 4 lety +502

    First Luke Skywalker then Ghostbusters then John conner and now Picard, This is (Cultural vandalism)

    • @charlesballiet7074
      @charlesballiet7074 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      shut up and accept the kalergi plan you bigot the tribe has spoken!

    • @darkdogzstudioz
      @darkdogzstudioz Pƙed 4 lety

      yay I'm Like number 111.

    • @petercampi2840
      @petercampi2840 Pƙed 4 lety

      Whew, for a moment there I almost thought John Carter was a part of your list instead of John Connor. RIP Terminator (it was dead as soon as they failed to use a rendition of the iconic theme in the trailer).

    • @darkdogzstudioz
      @darkdogzstudioz Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@petercampi2840 play terminator resistance if you haven't. it's the true next movie, over woke fate. and they mixed all the previous themes together to make an awesome homage theme as the menu music, it's great. people complain about the AI being dumb but the stiff movement and one track mind suits terminators, really.

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 Pƙed 4 lety

      Ghostbusters 2016 was released before the Last Jedi ruined Lukes character. But I agree with the sentiment, though is Picards character actually ruined? Or just the federation?

  • @meris8486
    @meris8486 Pƙed 4 lety +267

    I'm so glad they bought Icheb back to torture him, drill his eye out, then slice the optic nerve in _graphic detail_ What wonderful fan service! I especially enjoyed when Seven mercy killed him, even though medical tech is so advanced they could just spray him and he'd be fine. I'm so glad these writers care deeply about treating Star Trek with respect and remaining true to Gene Roddenberry's vision.

    • @alejandor4870
      @alejandor4870 Pƙed 4 lety +34

      I was appalled by the mercy killing. Just the cherry on top of that scene.

    • @xellosmetallium8519
      @xellosmetallium8519 Pƙed 4 lety +26

      Apparently Icheb implants had been already remove to the point where he knew he was going to die. I still hate that scene, this is not Star Trek

    • @inorite4553
      @inorite4553 Pƙed 4 lety +17

      I didnt even know who that was until the internet because it came out of no where.
      They didn't bothered to earn that death scene

    • @frankmerker630
      @frankmerker630 Pƙed 4 lety +42

      Id recommend checking out the RedLetterMedia analysis of the Icheb scene. It seems to be very much politically motivated and they used his character to be an effigy of the actor who originally portrayed him

    • @NeilSearle
      @NeilSearle Pƙed 4 lety +6

      @@xellosmetallium8519 If they have advanced to the point where the hard part of making flesh androids isn't making the body as stated earlier in the season I find it difficult to believe they couldn't replace whatever Icheb was missing with new parts.

  • @davecam4863
    @davecam4863 Pƙed 4 lety +752

    On a side note.....can this be some alternate reality that Q created just to teach Picard a lesson? PLEASE?

    • @KiltedCritic
      @KiltedCritic Pƙed 4 lety +58

      You're not far off. Since this was made on the same alternate creative license as the JJ movies, so this is in effect, an alternate reality.

    • @B-Dad
      @B-Dad Pƙed 4 lety +36

      I feel like this is some alternate reality that Q created to teach ME a lesson! Not just the show.. everything now a days

    • @Xydonus
      @Xydonus Pƙed 4 lety +9

      @@KiltedCritic No. Its the prime universe timeline.

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      well whatever it is its a world that fails q's test for humanity so he's going to wipe us all out in episode 10

    • @goreobsessed2308
      @goreobsessed2308 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      They can do anything they want if they give me more Q scenes

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 Pƙed 4 lety +203

    "How does it feel to have your favorite franchise go down the shitter?"
    "Feels great!"
    - Mike, RedLetterMedia

    • @TheMarc388
      @TheMarc388 Pƙed 4 lety +24

      "You know this reminds me of an episode of Star Trek."

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic Pƙed 4 lety +9

      At least it's not Dr.Who.. Oh wait

    • @KaneK1234
      @KaneK1234 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Arcademan09 It feels absolutely awful. Like, I want to genuinely kill myself.

    • @lovecchio420
      @lovecchio420 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@KaneK1234 I feel you bro, it's like everything that I have loved my entire life is gone forever. Trek,DW,SW, Indiana Jones, Im sure there are more if it didnt hurt to think about it.

    • @kutless45
      @kutless45 Pƙed 4 lety

      TheHunterWolf thanks, you just ruined my day. It’s times like now that I want to take up drinking.

  • @dasabaja
    @dasabaja Pƙed 4 lety +98

    This is basically a scam! It has "Star Trek" in the title, but instead it's a dark, gritty, depressing, dystopian Sci-Fi show starring Patrick Stewart.

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Gone are the Braga/Berman days of Star Trek writing.

    • @keithdoyle6535
      @keithdoyle6535 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      If it was a dark, gritty, depressing, dystopian Sci-Fi show it would have something going for it!!!!

    • @bdrago5420
      @bdrago5420 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      From the first episode I had a feeling that someone pitched a cyberpunk show about androids and it was retooled and got the Star Trek license slapped on it because studios are too cowardly to invest in new intellectual properties with no preexisting fanbase.

    • @KeeperProtector
      @KeeperProtector Pƙed 4 lety

      18:50 That part had me dying cuz it was so *STUPID* 💁😂😂😂😂😂

    • @dukaduka506
      @dukaduka506 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@keithdoyle6535 Yea the writing is bad.

  • @johnconnorpliskin7184
    @johnconnorpliskin7184 Pƙed 4 lety +328

    What’s this “Picard” and “Discovery” that you’re talking about? I thought they rebranded Star Trek into “The Orville”.

    • @joab757
      @joab757 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      John Connor Pliskin it actually feels more like Star Trek

    • @DavePruett
      @DavePruett Pƙed 4 lety +15

      What's interesting to me is that The Orville was intended (I think) as sort of a parody, but now it is far more canon than Picard, Discovery, or the Kelvin timeline movies.

    • @RealComp5
      @RealComp5 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@DavePruett I don't think it was supposed to be a Parody, it was supposed to be Star Trek but with humor at times and that's what it is.

    • @WCanyon
      @WCanyon Pƙed 4 lety +2

      More like the Snorville mirite??!

    • @RealComp5
      @RealComp5 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@WCanyon No, infact you're entirely wrong.

  • @glassworktrophic8465
    @glassworktrophic8465 Pƙed 4 lety +382

    Let's face it, The Orville is the closest we have to classic Star Trek anymore.

    • @Brejan
      @Brejan Pƙed 4 lety +49

      It's funny really. The only way Discovery and Picard are Trek is in name. And the only way Orville isn't Trek is... also the name.

    • @Sombriage
      @Sombriage Pƙed 4 lety +30

      I think we can thank Galaxy Quest for The Orville as well.

    • @ZeroB4NG
      @ZeroB4NG Pƙed 4 lety +24

      Galaxy Quest was also great Star Trek.

    • @cerro6061
      @cerro6061 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      With jokes I love Orville

    • @alessandro348
      @alessandro348 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      Man I don't even like The Orville that much but it's way better compared to what Star Trek has become.

  • @woohahcatrim9780
    @woohahcatrim9780 Pƙed 4 lety +140

    REmember when SEven of Nine got plastered off one half glass of champagne because she can't process alcohol? Now she's pounding drinks. Great char development.

    • @RetroSmiles
      @RetroSmiles Pƙed 4 lety +22

      Stunning and brave, they broke new ground!

    • @sargon6000
      @sargon6000 Pƙed 4 lety +16

      You'd think she'd at least mention that she had some upgrades and can now drink alcohol/synthehol without getting drunk from one glass, all it takes is a single line, but I guess that would distract from the eyeball gouging.

    • @MrGhosta5
      @MrGhosta5 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      she did have a couple of decades to build up her tolerance.

    • @peytonmac1131
      @peytonmac1131 Pƙed 4 lety +10

      As RLM said, Seven should have been working at the Daystrom institute building androids with her massive intellect. Instead she's off shooting people and being some vengeance fueled freelancer after seeing Icheb dead because that's the grown up Star Trek.

    • @sargon6000
      @sargon6000 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      This! But I guess that Kurtzman must have mixed Star Trek with Hostel (though a have a feeling that Eli Roth would make a more faithful Star Trek than these hacks).

  • @PyroMancer2k
    @PyroMancer2k Pƙed 4 lety +142

    "Poverty is coming back" .... HOW?!? Even the defense of maybe it's coming back doesn't make sense in terms of the Star Trek Universe. They have REPLICATORS which can easily make food, clothing, and shelter.
    Take a look at Voyager which was just a small ship stranded on it's own for years and thanks to their tech it was very rare that they were every struggling to get by. Any temporary shortages they had was due in large part to them being on their own without the support of the massive resource of the Federation.
    Part of the reason the Federation eliminated these issues is because of the advances in technology. It's like having safe drinking water is not some luxury for only the rich. Advances in indoor plumbing has brought clean water to the masses. Same is true with food, clothing, and so many other things with Replicators.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 Pƙed 4 lety +16

      THE SHEER FUCKING HUBRIS.

    • @zaubermaus8190
      @zaubermaus8190 Pƙed 4 lety

      talking about voyager to prove your point is hilarious. they held together BECAUSE they were stranded and BECAUSE they were on their own.
      not everyone on this planet has indoor plumbing an clean water. the same goes for the star trek future. not everyone has access to the advanced technology you mention.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 Pƙed 4 lety +14

      @@zaubermaus8190 Try actually watching the show and doing a tiny bit of research before you post. There is no poverty on Earth in Star Trek. Humanity eliminated it centuries ago.

    • @zaubermaus8190
      @zaubermaus8190 Pƙed 4 lety

      ​@@Gunnar001 why are you posting this answer to me? i never said there would be poverty on earth and i didn't see any poverty on earth in picard either. so your point being? the OP quoted "poverty is coming back" emphasis on "BACK". edit: plus that quote isn't worth anything without further details anyway. AND even if something like "poverty" was eliminated CENTURIES ago doesn't mean it stays that way... just look at things like illnesses or even physics... "humanity" thought to have reached the end of such things several times in the past and humanity was always wrong.

    • @PyroMancer2k
      @PyroMancer2k Pƙed 4 lety +8

      It's always amusing when people try to impose modern day issue into Star Trek world. In a world where you can literally make food, water, and clothing out of thin it kinda hard to argue why anyone would still be struggling in poverty to feed & cloth themselves.
      And the excuse "not everyone has access to the tech" is a complete failing to understand how the tech work and the world in which it occupies. It would be a bit like trying to claim homeless people living in the park in our world don't have access to the advance tech of plumbing to get clean water, when most parks have free drinking fountains to distribute clean drinkable water for free to another who wants it.
      Well the same goes for the future with Star Trek. It's very easy to imagine free food replicators available to all because we actually see this on DS9. Not only is it mentioned that every quarters has a food replicator but there is also that free open cafe you see Dr Bashir and Garak eat at all the time. People just walk up to the replicators and ask for a food/drink which appears followed by them picking a table to sit at. So it's easy to imagine similar setups all over on Earth as well as most Federation worlds.
      As for those who think the Federation is an unrealistic vision of the future I have to say they don't really understand Human nature. The ideals of greed is good and money drives things is a by product of our over commercialized society which puts value on the accumulation of things.
      Humans are social creatures and what they want is a place to belong and to feel that they are valued. It's why hopeless and desperate people often fall victim to cults, which I think most would find it hard to argue are motivated by money, they are instead often motivated by power.
      While some people do seek power and fame it's often emphasized that money is the way to achieve those things. And so to keep people on the spending treadmill companies advertise that buying more things can solve their problems but to do that they need more money. After all when you keep getting told hammers can fix any problem eventually everything looks like a nail. :)
      If you take any economics courses and actually pay attention to the studies done it becomes quite obvious that people are not as greedy and selfish as the modern cut throat companies would like you to believe, which are just trying to get a free pass by claiming it's only natural to act that way. It's amusing in various studies the economist found the results "surprising" only because they treated people as heartless machines in their theories.
      The Dictator experiment is one where a person is given $10 and they can keep as much or as little as they want. Supposed logic would say the person should keep all and give nothing since the other person has no say in the outcome. Yet the person playing the part of the Dictator still gives some part of the money away.
      Another version of this is where the other person does get a say in which they can choose to accept or reject. If they reject both people get nothing. Once again "logic" would say the person receiving should accept regardless of how small the amount is as they are better off, yet more often than not the person would reject it making both people get nothing if they felt the other person was being to greedy.
      There are plenty more experiments which have results all showing that most people don't like greedy people and will try to punish them even at the expense of themselves, it's why revolutions happen where the peasants burn everything down often hurting themselves and why a large wealth gap in a society if a very destabilizing force.
      And those who also don't understand evolutionary pressures would think this seemly self destructive trait to be counter productive to a species. But it's actually very advantageous as similar results are observed in other social animals. To quote the Starks, "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives." An individual who only thinks of themselves can't be trusted to work together in tough times which is often required in order to make it out alive.
      Ultimately though as anyone who has studied monitory theory can tell you, money isn't real. It only has a value based on what we place on it. If one day we collectively decide it's worthless then it will be. In a post scarcity society like Star Trek it's easy to see the importance of money going away as people no longer need to worry about having money to live.
      I doubt money will go away but it will become less important to get a job but instead simply be about doing what you love, like people who make a living on youtube. Or some will get jobs to keep busy, as working various jobs over the years I've meet quite a few retired people who have jobs because they are bored of staying home all day and don't need the money. And with improvements in automation most of the undesirable jobs will get replaced by machines but even then some people actually like their jobs, just watch the show Dirty Jobs.

  • @manofsan
    @manofsan Pƙed 4 lety +88

    Romulan incest = Cersei+Jaime Lannister from GameOfThrones
    They're just throwing all kinds of stuff at the wall, hoping something will stick -- BladeRunner android-replicant-synths, Romulan SamuraiElves, Rangers, GameOfThrones, etc, etc
    Dahj/Soji/Rey will either be Palpatine's granddaughter or the next Borg queen

    • @Maren617
      @Maren617 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      That sister is the worst character in the show: if she had a mustache, I'm pretty sure she'd twirl it.

    • @ffs6158
      @ffs6158 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      It doesn't even feel like a real show. It's like a bad tumblr fanfic with a 30 million dollar budget.

    • @hardy83
      @hardy83 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      That's my biggest problem with the show. Not the plot holes, not the ignoring of lore, not writing Picard like Charles Xavier more than Captain Picard... It's that the show, visually and in tone seems to just be multiple things and has zero identity.
      It's trying to be everything and ends up being this weird scifi soup that blander than anything.

    • @Maren617
      @Maren617 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@hardy83 Yes, it's "writing by committee, as dictated by the marketing department - and all of them hate and look down on Science Fiction". Seriously, it's such an obvious paint-by-numbers thing full of contempt for the audience's intelligence. At least the special effects are nice. :(

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver Pƙed 4 lety

      They need intrigue and betrayal from Battle Star Galatica, they want the humor from Orvel, they also want covert military operations from The Expanse.
      What they got, is a mess!

  • @mitchtellers2547
    @mitchtellers2547 Pƙed 4 lety +158

    Didn't Star Trek IV make fun of modern day swearing when the crew went back in time to the 20th century?
    Now the current writers are turning the franchise into one of the things it lampooned.

    • @FlyfishermanMike
      @FlyfishermanMike Pƙed 4 lety +10

      Colorful metaphors!

    • @umjackd
      @umjackd Pƙed 4 lety +19

      Double dumbass on this show!

    • @danield.8233
      @danield.8233 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Data cursed in Generations tho

    • @Vaultboy101
      @Vaultboy101 Pƙed 4 lety

      Sheer fucking Who dis?

    • @Nesty9
      @Nesty9 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Exactly what i thought ,they should have used writers that really know the lore and not how rlm said that the writers only knew the cube and data

  • @harbringar828
    @harbringar828 Pƙed 4 lety +191

    "Alex: He has a cool sword, do you think he can set it to STUN?" That got me..

    • @julianmarco4185
      @julianmarco4185 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Just use the full side. Sword essentially become a bat

    • @Bluemoondm1
      @Bluemoondm1 Pƙed 4 lety

      To be fair, it's a Romulan sword. They do have stun settings on their weapons I believe but it's probably generally less important to them.

    • @Alexthe360Great
      @Alexthe360Great Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Step 1: Get a flamethrower. Step 2: Set flamethrower to stun. Step 3: Get mushroom tech from Discovery to make it make sense for sense because tacheons.

    • @robertagren9360
      @robertagren9360 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Command Consoles powered by Taychon never fail. Whoever design the ships should be fired.

    • @sargon6000
      @sargon6000 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Huh? I thought it was mentioned that Romulan handweapons don't have stun setting... Which doesn't make sense given how information collecting-savy they are, you'd think their agents would have a stun weapon at hand if they want to capture an important person for interrogation or some other activity, like they do to Geordi in that Manchurian candidate TNG episode.

  • @DjPolo1897
    @DjPolo1897 Pƙed 4 lety +227

    This is actually damaging the legacy of the character Picard and Star Trek for me.

    • @DjPolo1897
      @DjPolo1897 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      @va m Very good point, actions speak louder than words and the impression that he gives is one of not caring about the legacy of the character, I don't know what he is paid but it does seem he is doing it just for the money.

    • @cdreyes81
      @cdreyes81 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      In the end they'll probably say "oh it's an alternate universe. None of this counts" then the trekies will eat it up

    • @DjPolo1897
      @DjPolo1897 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@cdreyes81 Good point, its a damn cheat but I'm sure it will work.

    • @MyN0N4M3
      @MyN0N4M3 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      Yes, now I can hardly watch TNG anymore, because it reminds me of this godawful perversion of Star Trek.
      And I could maybe ignore that but I know bloody well that Patrick Stewart pushed for this upfron political agenda that got inserted into his show and has also some saying what and how he wants the story to develop.
      That's also the reason why I immediately stopped watching this show once 7 of 9 came in. I grew up with Voyager and Voyager is my favourite ST series (I know). And it remained untouched by all these hollywood freaks for so long.
      I won't let that new show destroy my favourite memories of Star Trek

    • @DjPolo1897
      @DjPolo1897 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      @@MyN0N4M3 Seeing 7 of 9 was too much as well for me, Voyager was also my favorite growing up and its bad enough seeing the legacy of Picard being destroyed but I ain't going to see anything Voyager destroyed so I'm done. When it comes to Patrick Stewart, well its just another example of a great actor not being that great in real life, its one of the reasons why I have no interest in any of these people off screen.

  • @deaconx
    @deaconx Pƙed 4 lety +153

    We live in the darkest timeline. Everything we love is turning to crap.

    • @omegamark9178
      @omegamark9178 Pƙed 4 lety +18

      God,i thought i was the only one noticing this,,,Star trek/Star wars/comic books,,,everything is just getting F'd up!

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      @@omegamark9178 And all because of stupid social justice warriors and their irrational political agendas. Trying to raise issues where there are none and infusing them into every possible form of media, whether the story takes place in ancient Rome or the freakin' 24th century.

    • @aleksander8497
      @aleksander8497 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      Maybe the world ended in 2012, we all died, and now we're in hell. And the torment is seeing anything that was good be slowly corrupted and turned to shit.

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@aleksander8497 It makes sense. Snowflakes started taking over the media and flooding campuses circa 2012. It all connects now!
      If this is hell, this is the worst kind of hell.

    • @perturbedsun5508
      @perturbedsun5508 Pƙed 3 lety

      Eli Malinsky careful good sir, Joe aligns with the SJWs who are ruining our culture. Said at the beginning of this video that he’s “Progressive” and some of the shit he says on Twitter is WAYYYY SJW.

  • @Puffycheeks
    @Puffycheeks Pƙed 4 lety +156

    They didn't just ruin Lore, they ruined Data too.

  • @SugarHighHeather
    @SugarHighHeather Pƙed 4 lety +149

    I don't understand why they have blue-collar workers on Mars when there's no money. Whoever writes this stuff is completely clueless.

    • @kynikersolon3882
      @kynikersolon3882 Pƙed 4 lety +33

      Yeah and whining about their food while the replicator can literally give them anything they want.

    • @shockmesane4158
      @shockmesane4158 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      It's not really anything new, though. There was a guy working as a waiter on earth at Sisko's eatery. You're telling me in a perfect society where anyone is free to pursue anything they desire you are going to have people picking "waiter"? That's like going to heaven and deciding yea, I really think what I want to do is work on somebody else's farm for free all day. I could actually cite a bunch of examples, but there's a ton of stuff that makes no sense if you think about it, and it wasn't introduced with Picard. I still don't like Picard, but let's not pretend Star Trek's gaping plot holes and bad writing in general began with it. They are ancient institutions.

    • @russellarcher5181
      @russellarcher5181 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      @@shockmesane4158 Sam Gamgee only wanted one garden to work on, and that was enough to resist Sauron's Ring in LotR, (novels).

    • @russellarcher5181
      @russellarcher5181 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Dude, they have 'TAXIS' on Earth; how?!?!?!?

    • @shockmesane4158
      @shockmesane4158 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      ​@@russellarcher5181A gardener with a lot of freedom can feel like an artist. Try waiting tables and tell me how gratifying it feels to your creative spirit. Apples and oranges.

  • @liammcnulty1987
    @liammcnulty1987 Pƙed 4 lety +204

    It doesn't feel like Star Trek at all. The swearing is way too off putting and cringe.
    And everyone keeps going on about monetary value is really pissing me off.

    • @DustinBarlow8P
      @DustinBarlow8P Pƙed 4 lety +17

      This is TV for the "stare at my phone for 22 out of 24 hours out of the day" braindead younger generation. They just have the tv on, they aren't watching... The prophecy foretold in the film "Idiocracy" is coming to be realized.

    • @euphan123
      @euphan123 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      oldschool1987 i know! Its fracking insulting!

    • @liammcnulty1987
      @liammcnulty1987 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@euphan123 so say we all! 😂

    • @pills-
      @pills- Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Damn Ferengis (Ferengii?) influencing the Federation values. At least that would have explained something, but no... (come to think of it, where are all the "typical" Star Trek races? All we've seen are Romulans, Vulcans (maybe?) and humans. Every other alien is unnamed and just background scenery)

    • @Cobruh_Commander
      @Cobruh_Commander Pƙed 4 lety

      @@pills- Darn space Jews.

  • @madjoe8622
    @madjoe8622 Pƙed 4 lety +40

    Farscape was a master class in parallel story line. Miss that show.

  • @WadeDMcGinnis
    @WadeDMcGinnis Pƙed 4 lety +161

    I tapped out when I heard one character complain about Picard's "wealth". Decided to go back and rewatch Voyager (the weakest in the franchise imo), better than I thought and vastly improved over Picard.
    Not sure what is going on with these directors, producers and writers not understanding the source material.

    • @OmegaZyion
      @OmegaZyion Pƙed 4 lety +26

      Funny how characters like Jar Jar Binks and Neelix aren't as annoying to watch after seeing the latest iterations of those franchises.

    • @Saddler1944
      @Saddler1944 Pƙed 4 lety +14

      I would watch Voyager's Threshold episode 10 times in a row before wasting one more second on Picard I tapped out after episode 3

    • @WadeDMcGinnis
      @WadeDMcGinnis Pƙed 4 lety +12

      @@OmegaZyion While early on I would say Neelix was a bit of a pill, he slowly grew into one of my favorite characters along side the Doctor.

    • @ra6865
      @ra6865 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      I watch voyager every day. its freaken good! especially now when compared to shit like this :(

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Love Voyager, people can nitpick

  • @norbertsieniawski6768
    @norbertsieniawski6768 Pƙed 4 lety +146

    That moment when You realize that "The Orville", that was supposed to be a ST parody, feels WAY more startreky than anything with Star Trek in the name that was released lately...

    • @norbertsieniawski6768
      @norbertsieniawski6768 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      @Michael Shaffer Me too. I'm waiting for Season 3.
      I hope that new owner won't destroy it...

    • @BunBun299
      @BunBun299 Pƙed 4 lety +10

      The worst episode of The Orville is lightyears better than the best episodes of what they are legally allowed to call Star Trek produced by Secret Hideout.

    • @AegisHyperon
      @AegisHyperon Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Lol don't even mention that trashy show

    • @4Thessia
      @4Thessia Pƙed 4 lety +2

      The Orville SUCKS.

    • @andrewjacksonbr
      @andrewjacksonbr Pƙed 4 lety +5

      my father HATES sci-fi, but then he saw ST:TNG “Measure of a Man” told me how happy and proud that his son would watch it instead of “mindless entertainment”. It was an amazing moment of my childhood and to see this “version” of Star Trek...😒

  • @ih1589
    @ih1589 Pƙed 4 lety +80

    Yeah, watch The Orville, and pretend that ST ended when Enterprise ended.

    • @Gredddfe
      @Gredddfe Pƙed 4 lety

      Or earlier.

    • @anicetune
      @anicetune Pƙed 4 lety +7

      Enterprise was a slap in the face to the Star Trek franchise, which ended with a cuddle. STD and Picard are chainsaw massacres.

    • @Sheehan1
      @Sheehan1 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Pretend?

    • @woidonmiguel1
      @woidonmiguel1 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Agreed, though I am not a fan of Seth MacFarlane. But, The Orville is WAY more Trek than current "Star Trek". Watched a recent Voyager cast reunion and they were saying the same thing. Pretty sad when the legacy actors are dumping on their own IP cause it's so bad.

    • @R3GARnator
      @R3GARnator Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Last two season of Enterprise were surprisingly worthwhile. Of course, the best series was Deep Space 9.

  • @spacefx1340
    @spacefx1340 Pƙed 4 lety +103

    Why do the Romulans need saving, they just as advanced as starfleet.

    • @charleswood7001
      @charleswood7001 Pƙed 4 lety +25

      They also had a huge empire with hundreds of planets.

    • @SolarDragon007
      @SolarDragon007 Pƙed 4 lety +26

      Because muh stunning and brave political """"metaphor"""".

    • @Freedom21stCenturi
      @Freedom21stCenturi Pƙed 4 lety +15

      If not more. They had cloaking technology before Starfleet did after all.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris Pƙed 4 lety +14

      Because they wanted space refugees and couldn't be bothered to come up with a new species.

    • @jebes909090
      @jebes909090 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Oh you know. Racism and such

  • @genericgermangamer
    @genericgermangamer Pƙed 4 lety +290

    As someone who grew up with TNG and DS9 in the 90s I hate this show. The writing is just horrible.

    • @Paelmoon
      @Paelmoon Pƙed 4 lety +22

      It’s so bad. It basically shits all over Voyager, DS9 and TNG. I hate is so much.

    • @genericgermangamer
      @genericgermangamer Pƙed 4 lety +13

      Yep, I know it is. Pretty fucking obvious. I don't even shit on its agenda, but it's just not subtle enough. It's sooooo on the nose and cheap. That's what most ppl don't get. I always here the argument "but star trek was always political blah blah blah". They just don't understand what the writing was on another level most of the time and that its political subtext was subtle, thought provoking and not preachy.

    • @Novarcharesk
      @Novarcharesk Pƙed 4 lety

      Yeah, but it's not

    • @genericgermangamer
      @genericgermangamer Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @Deborah Rahn yeah, cuz it's pandering to the critics.

    • @scottyfox6376
      @scottyfox6376 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Ahhh better days, b4 the Woke 3rd wave feminist created the beta simp males..

  • @gorvarhadgarson5227
    @gorvarhadgarson5227 Pƙed 4 lety +169

    Why does everyone forget the Dominion War?! We would be speaking Vorta If it weren't for the Romulans and the Remans!

    • @30noir
      @30noir Pƙed 4 lety +35

      The writers don't know anything about the Dominion War, it probably didn't even happen in this alternate timeline which has more in common with the awful movies starting from the 2009 reboot.

    • @amit_patel654
      @amit_patel654 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Don't forget the Remulaks too

    • @spartacus36526
      @spartacus36526 Pƙed 4 lety +16

      The people who are working on STP probably don't know what DS9 even is. You want darker Star Trek? GO WATCH THAT!

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Pƙed 4 lety +6

      the writers probably only seen like 7 select episodes of star trek.

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Pƙed 4 lety +7

      @@spartacus36526 I actually dont want darker star trek, I was happy with the slightly optimistic star trek. if I wanted to watch the darkest timeline, Id watch the news about a possible coronavirus pandemic.

  • @chanceneck8072
    @chanceneck8072 Pƙed 4 lety +24

    I bet all the casting calls for this were like: "DonÂŽt worry! Our show is called _Star Trek - _*_PICARD_* !" This shit will print us money!

    • @justinjha
      @justinjha Pƙed 4 lety

      If they just had Picard farting around his vineyard it will still make money

  • @Ocyla
    @Ocyla Pƙed 4 lety +11

    Romulans: we're very smart, independent and resourceful!
    Also Romulans: WHY U NO HELP US MOAR????

  • @GarredHATES
    @GarredHATES Pƙed 4 lety +116

    Just give me The Orville

    • @BestWafflesEUW
      @BestWafflesEUW Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Derpiocy it’s so good right?!?

    • @mikael2670
      @mikael2670 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      You sure as hell know its sad when a comedy is more real than the last "real"

    • @Dimitri1221XxX
      @Dimitri1221XxX Pƙed 4 lety +10

      ​@@mikael2670 Season 2 of Orville wasn't really a comedy. They toned it way down and tried getting more serious.

    • @jak0995
      @jak0995 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      @@Dimitri1221XxX yeh 1st season was too slapstick but still had good premises in episodes. season 2 was much better and cant wait for season 3. also there have been ruumors of seth mcfarline getting star trek rights. possible for a good series from someone who understands the franchise, or maybe even an orville/startrek crossover which i think could work for a couple of episodes

    • @ZeroB4NG
      @ZeroB4NG Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@Dimitri1221XxX Season 2 was mostly romantic comedy ...for the girls.
      (and i still liked it because i love these characters, but it was just a little bit too much of the same one thing, "Identity" was the best Star Trek battle since DS9, but that wasn't really enough to save the slow 2nd Season for me.)
      I hope Season 3 gets back to more SciFi and more experimenting with the formula again like Season 1, now that it is on Hulu and has more budget to throw around and no meddling from FOX... and thank god it got away from Disney!!!

  • @TheAlienGangster
    @TheAlienGangster Pƙed 4 lety +110

    This show really overuses close up shots, shaky cam, bokeh (strong background blur), lens flare, and CGI. It’s hard to stay invested when the cinematography is so distracting. I firmly believe they use tons of bokeh to hide their green screen.

  • @Lootbot90
    @Lootbot90 Pƙed 4 lety +46

    As a member of the armed forces I can throw in a tid bit about how she spoke to a regarded legend of the Federation. In real life she would have NEVER spoke to him like that. His ideas would have been heard and if it didn’t line up with what she wanted to do he would have been given an explanation. Not belittled and screamed at. Star Trek is dead and gone my friend. Same as Star Wars. It’s all gone.

    • @jtonline99
      @jtonline99 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Unless you're part of Donald Trump's cabinet, then you would belittle to the max...

    • @makasete30
      @makasete30 Pƙed 4 lety

      jtonline99 but in the armed forces it would have been different.

    • @YadaYah
      @YadaYah Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Picard would have been a national treasure in Star Fleet and throughout the Federation. There's no way he would have been treated so disrespectfully just by sheer rank and his remarkable service.

  • @Soulcrushers666
    @Soulcrushers666 Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Gotta say, Jeri Ryan has aged pretty well!

  • @ezio_auditore5425
    @ezio_auditore5425 Pƙed 4 lety +261

    *I HATE THAT SHE CALLS HIM 'JL' TOO*

    • @ronuss
      @ronuss Pƙed 4 lety +28

      yes old picard would of taken that as disrespect.

    • @cinemaclips6074
      @cinemaclips6074 Pƙed 4 lety

      Ezioautditore714 What’s wrong with calling him JL??

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      Man that’s the worst

    • @ezio_auditore5425
      @ezio_auditore5425 Pƙed 4 lety +42

      @@cinemaclips6074 it's shitty writing. We don't as the audience know the character enough to feel comfortable with her being so casual with him. If Riker called him Jean luc, that would be fine. But some random character we have no backstory on talking to the legendary captain like he's some bro? Fuck off.

    • @fantact
      @fantact Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Yeah that was real cringy, and so many times in a row too, how did they get Stewart to do this?

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 Pƙed 4 lety +222

    Alex actually looks a lot like Riker

  • @dilatedbeholder3865
    @dilatedbeholder3865 Pƙed 4 lety +67

    Picard and STD actually make you realise that Enterprise was a really good Star Trek show. Should have been given another 3 seasons instead of these shit showers.

    • @anthonymounkes981
      @anthonymounkes981 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      I wish they had given Enterprise a proper ending, it deserves better, even if its not the best Trek.

    • @aleksander8497
      @aleksander8497 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Yep, bring back enterprise, it was far better than this

    • @justinjha
      @justinjha Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Star trek discovery went down the toilet in second season. I think trek works when standalone episodes not a huge ark.

    • @woidonmiguel1
      @woidonmiguel1 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@justinjha Don't know, DS9's Dominion War was a pretty awesome story arc and still maintained the legacy of Trek. This is all about Hollywood's uneducated and untalented reboot writers trying to be original

    • @tarb1320
      @tarb1320 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@justinjha Discovery was trash from the get go.

  • @Gala-yp8nx
    @Gala-yp8nx Pƙed 4 lety +12

    They’re mandating the same things with Picard that they did with Star Trek: Enterprise.
    1: Gratuitously show skin every episode.
    2: There needs to be action every episode.
    Between that, the fidgety camera work and the epileptic pacing... Picard is just nerve grating.

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 Pƙed 4 lety +49

    Picard to Q: I cannot go on the rest of my days living as that dreary man... that man is bereft of passion... and imagination.. that is not who I am!

    • @Zeriel00
      @Zeriel00 Pƙed 4 lety

      Au contraire that's who you wanted to be Sir Patrick Steward! Someone less like me. The Jean Luc piacard that loves Social Justice, fights against Brexit and Trump instead of exploring the Galaxy >.>

  • @Noble-xr4wx
    @Noble-xr4wx Pƙed 4 lety +129

    You know a show's gonna be bad when Joe's hands are on his face. Ha!

  • @Mecalas
    @Mecalas Pƙed 4 lety +10

    Very fair score there, IMHO.
    How to fix the show: Use the "Picard was trapped in the Enterprise-E main Holodeck (which is malfunctioning), infected by a virus (the Stewart Kurzman disease?) that has given him Dementia." The end of the season is Picard being rescued, then dropped off at the nearest 'House of Care' run by Romulan Nuns in black - his Dementia having never been healed. The next season is everyone but Picard going off and trying to discover who created the malfunction (of the Holodeck) and hopefully finding a cure for Picard before he dies.
    Make the whole first season a "Bad Dream" :-P Because it's a nightmare tbh.
    Create a new super-villain that caused the whole lot to occur. Mars is still OK, the 'synths' uprising never happened (wtf did they come from anyway???) and the Federation is as doting as ever it was - with more tech than ever before ;-) The Romulans are as fractured as their former empire - creating new enemies, allies and neutrals all over the place.
    *wistful and hopeless sigh*

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion Pƙed 4 lety

      Heres what id like them to do and it is complete wishful thinking.
      Going from where we're at with Episode 6, The synthetics create a kind of android invasion, leading to a shadow-war between the Romulan Secret society and a unknown number of Borg androids who had infiltrated Galactic Civilisation. Instead of rushing Picard meeting Sogi when he gets onboard the Borg Cube.
      Stretch things out to where Picard spends some time on the Borg cube once he meets Hue. His presence as once being Locutus would be a big thing and he really sees how the ex-Borg truly are and strikes a Bond with them, they revere him. This would create "ethical" questions, leading us the viewer unsure as to whether Picard is in the right.
      Draw out this Borg sub-plot giving it more focus in the season, Picard knows Sogi is on the Artefact sent by Bruce Maddox for a as-yet unknown reason. When he finally finds Sogi, Picard would be suspicious of her lover Narek, but he would have had no reason to believe he worked for the Zhat Vash. Viewers would have been unsure too; us viewers would have known Commadore Oh referred to a Romulan who was close to Soji, but Narek is hardly following protocol in becoming her lover.
      From here i would have it where Soji was created by Maddox from Data and she is the very thing Data strived to become, but was created as a means for either the Federation (through Maddox) or the Romulans (Doctor Jurati) with a Romulan spy changed to look human; to control androids for their own means.
      I would stop splitting the narratives the way the show does, and build up to a climax. The show has potential to really cleverly explore ethical questions and themes of what does it mean to be human? With this whole synthetic theme, which they have obviously been heavily inspired by Data and the Measure of a Man episode from TNG.
      Also i would NOT make the Romulans responsible for creating the Borg, that simply takes away all their mystery and intrigue, but simply make it where the Borg are now exploited by the Romulans.
      Patrick Stewart is pushing 70, id kill him off in the second season, resolve this Borg/Synth sub-plot, lead it upto where bad apples are rooted out in the Federation, gonna take time to restore the Federation back to what it once was, Synths become full citizens, free and equal rights. And Picard himself is redeemed and honored in the eyes of the Romulans and the Federation, where a new Federation ship is commissioned and named in his honor, taking the series forward.
      Use the existing characters we have, with the Romulan/Elrond looking guy joining starfleet, along with Hue as a science officer and Soji, that Captain becomes a regular returning character (like Q) who helps our the crew. And we get the Enterprise - F named "USS PICARD" brought into glorious canon.
      And the show moves forward back into "exploration" past the Delta Quadrant mapping whole new parts of the Galaxy.

  • @dONALDBLOOD
    @dONALDBLOOD Pƙed 4 lety +10

    My problem is the same as it was with Discovery: it's mostly about interpersonal drama between characters I don't care about. The old ST series were not as dramatic, it was never about interpersonal drama. The last drop for me was when the only character I liked a bit, the blond woman simply killed someone, especially because the way she killed that person: like a psychopath.

    • @presidentkang1986
      @presidentkang1986 Pƙed 4 lety

      "it was never about interpersonal drama" Bullshit!
      Picard and Crusher. Odo and Kira. Worf and his son. Worf and Troy.
      You dumb fake ass Star Trek fans can all fuck off and have transporter malfunctions.

  • @purgejmi
    @purgejmi Pƙed 4 lety +81

    This show was like "swords are cool and men are not".

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause Pƙed 4 lety +160

    Star Trek was always about the crew discovering and interacting with different planetary cultures, and using that as a subtle narrative vehicle to comment on relevant political and social issues. It seems that the latest incarnations of Star Trek - whether they are the J.J. Abrams movies, Star Trek: Discovery, or now Star Trek: Picard - have jettisoned this concept so as to simply peddle wokeness and cliched action. They took what made Star Trek different from other space related fiction and just threw it out the window. Its no wonder so many of the die hard fans of the original series, and the spin offs that came out in the 80s and 90s, are so frustrated with both Discovery and Picard.

    • @robertagren9360
      @robertagren9360 Pƙed 4 lety

      A prime example of these primitive beings with their values and need of money. Now, Now don't get too close. Be nice to them. They're our guests.

    • @nicandknacksandseans
      @nicandknacksandseans Pƙed 4 lety +5

      It was always woke though. Always. A lot of the allegorical stuff, was either poorly integrated, or didn’t make sense. It always stuck out like a sore thumb. Remember how awkwardly diverse the bridge was in the original show, how Q just rambled about “the horrors of man” without context. The whole thing was woke. Seriously. I love Star Trek, but the whole thing is pretty hammy. It’s always been like that.

    • @TheFanRift
      @TheFanRift Pƙed 4 lety

      Deep Space Nine... Nuff said

    • @CurtyTails
      @CurtyTails Pƙed 4 lety +10

      @Obsidikis Necrosine except as others have said-the issues they brought up made sense with the shows logic and lore-here they dont give a fuck.
      And being woke nowadays means bashing on men and having women be in every role even torturing(literally) and destroying beloved characters for the sake of bringing down "toxic masculinity".
      The show was woke in a everyone tries to get along kind of way-these shows are a dark and hateful kind of woke where everybody hates on picard and characters that are male for no fucking reason

    • @mk.5706
      @mk.5706 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      @Obsidikis Necrosine I disagree. Star Treks strength has always been to ask questions in a subtle way not to deliver simple answers. WeÂŽve also seen characters struggling with their own morale dilemma, when they were confronted with complicated questions and choices had to be made. Picard is nothing of that. ItÂŽs selling a simple agenda, Sir Patricks agenda obviously.

  • @MrQuakebuttock
    @MrQuakebuttock Pƙed 4 lety +8

    "Do you think the Romulans created the Borg?" Oh God! Oh no! That's so stupid I hadn't even thought about that. I really hope not. Just no.

  • @jackmaddox4960
    @jackmaddox4960 Pƙed 4 lety +11

    I LOVE 'Dark Trek: Picard'..! It's really made me realize just how much better TNG, DS9, and even Voyager and Enterprise are, by comparison, and given me a whole new appreciation for them. Bravo!

  • @medalgear654
    @medalgear654 Pƙed 4 lety +171

    Angry Joe:" We're big Star Trek fans...this isn't Star Trek"
    Me: That feels familiar...reminds me how how I felt with Disney Star Wars.
    At least Trek and Wars fans can relate to each other now.

    • @applecrow8
      @applecrow8 Pƙed 4 lety +28

      Its almost like they are being made by the same people.

    • @jonasking9587
      @jonasking9587 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Welp, they are making Star Trek for Star Wars fans now. So you might dig it.

    • @joehand2156
      @joehand2156 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      I always liked both but i always been like that. Like how some people are ps fan and other are xbox fans. I have an older brother when we were younger my parents asked what system did we want my brother wanted a Sega i wanted a SNES we got both but mine was a 2nd hand one which i did not care but we both would swipe system because we wanted to play other games.

    • @jonasking9587
      @jonasking9587 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@joehand2156 Sure. I just mean that new Star Trek is going for as wide an audience as possible.

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Pƙed 4 lety

      Ya know, I hope that somewhere someday people will make a lookalike mix of both and unite the fans and bring balance/peace to the Force/Universe once and for all

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 Pƙed 4 lety +96

    Here's how the writing team works with new Trek:
    "What do I know about Star Trek? Beam me up, red shirts, Klingon, live long & prosper, laser beams, Spock, aliens and the bald guy Picard. Man I love politics"

    • @jadenkarpoff9158
      @jadenkarpoff9158 Pƙed 4 lety +19

      Don't forget Earl Grey Tea, gotta have Earl Grey Tea. Don't you remember Earl Grey Tea? I remember Earl Grey Tea.

    • @Arcademan09
      @Arcademan09 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@jadenkarpoff9158 I knew I was forgetting something!

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Pƙed 4 lety +8

      @@jadenkarpoff9158 And it's now DECAF Early Grey Tea! Give me strength .........

    • @tommenno
      @tommenno Pƙed 4 lety +6

      RLM summed this up perfectly. "Jay you know nothing about star trek, tell me all the things you know about Trek, because that's all they put into this show."

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Pƙed 4 lety +3

      I LIKE SCIENCE DERP. This is exactly like what they did to star wars. Fuck the story, let's just throw in some lazy lightsaber fights and star wars memes

  • @andrewjacksonbr
    @andrewjacksonbr Pƙed 4 lety +16

    Star Trek is forward thinking Modern Star Trek is no-thinking.

  • @Lowlander-ci7is
    @Lowlander-ci7is Pƙed 4 lety +10

    Its like Star-Trek has been contaminated with The Expanse level of grittyness, don't get my wrong I like The Expanse TV show and love the books..
    But for me Star-Trek represented an ideal Utopia like state that Humans would and should reach in a couple hundred years, no money, no greed and no shouting at respected characters, like you say Picard was not a wimp!!!
    And calling him JL.... No just no... The character deserves way way more respect than that.... â˜č

  • @mistercaddzola734
    @mistercaddzola734 Pƙed 4 lety +106

    “Breaking the lore, breaking the lore...”
    -Judas Priest.
    Okay, the song is called “Breaking the Law,” but they’ve got British accents.

    • @stealthy9599
      @stealthy9599 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      You soiled it. Get rid of the explanation

    • @_l-_-l_
      @_l-_-l_ Pƙed 4 lety +4

      A British band has British accents, who would have guessed.

    • @user-lj2cb2pj8j
      @user-lj2cb2pj8j Pƙed 4 lety +2

      I'm stealing this and making it better like a good American

    • @andypocalypse
      @andypocalypse Pƙed 4 lety

      phuk them and their lore... rip Keef flint

    • @gungriffen
      @gungriffen Pƙed 4 lety +1

      "You don't know what it's like."

  • @CrispyHulk1
    @CrispyHulk1 Pƙed 4 lety +35

    The same thing happened in star wars episode 8: the last jedi, except we had some of the most legendary characters in the history of cinema spat on and eviscerated for the sake of kathleen kennedy’s social agenda. Disgusting.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith Pƙed 4 lety +10

      TFA is shit also.

    • @KingofAwesomness14
      @KingofAwesomness14 Pƙed 4 lety

      basically, that's what happened and is happening in the media now adays...woo! said no one ever.

  • @Mockthenerd
    @Mockthenerd Pƙed 4 lety +11

    Why wife has seen a few episodes of ToS and like 2 seasons of TNG and even she says this doesn't feel like Star Trek.

  • @reticenti6365
    @reticenti6365 Pƙed 4 lety +15

    “Earth is a paradise, and it’s easy to be Saint in paradise” Ben Cisco

    • @makasete30
      @makasete30 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      That was a great episode, so much better than this crap.

    • @aleksander8497
      @aleksander8497 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      They could salvage this series by making it all part of the dark mirror universe.

  • @MrSolidsnake293
    @MrSolidsnake293 Pƙed 4 lety +73

    Well now starwars and star trek fans can finally bond over something for once.....
    Never said bond over something good :'(

    • @chaTzon
      @chaTzon Pƙed 4 lety +1

      at least mandalorian is freaking perfect.

    • @Kaizu823
      @Kaizu823 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      We are at that point where telling a “bad” story isn’t enough. They have to crap on the previous stories too.

    • @medalgear654
      @medalgear654 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@chaTzon hold on your breath...baby yoda is becoming a huge marketing tool I fear the next season will be milked out for that new character.
      Disney wants easy money they'll ruin Mandalorian.

    • @manoc6943
      @manoc6943 Pƙed 4 lety

      Ricky Castle at least they have good directors on the show

    • @alexdeghost2729
      @alexdeghost2729 Pƙed 4 lety

      Well Star Trek fans are smart and Star Wars fans are stupid.

  • @erremnart2869
    @erremnart2869 Pƙed 4 lety +82

    Just finished Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and wanted to see something newer - gonna try DS9 for second time.

    • @Saddler1944
      @Saddler1944 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      You should find a copy of the Deep Space 9 Book A Stich in Time is written by Andrew J. Robinson if you are looking for something close enough to Deep Space 9 it tells a lot of Garak Stories

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith Pƙed 4 lety +2

      DS10 is out next year, but with every other line being a massive load of swearing. It's gonna be great.

    • @AngelaRyanXX
      @AngelaRyanXX Pƙed 4 lety

      @Johnny Nemo And Voyager.

    • @inorite4553
      @inorite4553 Pƙed 4 lety

      Excellent choice

    • @articarcher3769
      @articarcher3769 Pƙed 4 lety

      @Johnny Nemo DS9 is a great series. It is easily competes with TNG for best startrek. You could even argue it has a diversity captain but I did not even notice as the character is good good.

  • @earthequalsmissingcurvesqu9359

    Set Phasers to suck. This thing will get even worse.

  • @tysmith4965
    @tysmith4965 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    You said it...."This is NOT Star Trek !"

  • @pauledwards9493
    @pauledwards9493 Pƙed 4 lety +62

    Turns out it was all a dream for Picard, in a retirement home.

    • @SlickR12345
      @SlickR12345 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      A nightmare

    • @spartacus36526
      @spartacus36526 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      I still subscribe to the idea that Picard is still in the Nexus, and this is all happening in there.

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Pƙed 4 lety +5

      its an early Aprils Fools joke played on Picard by Q.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith Pƙed 4 lety

      He gets out the shower like Bobby Ewing.

  • @Starfals
    @Starfals Pƙed 4 lety +66

    Well, Red Letter Media already guessed what will happen xD This is how bad Star Trek Picard is cuz its super obvious and feels less star treky than even Discovery lol, which is the worst.

    • @russellarcher5181
      @russellarcher5181 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      I'm hoping their endings come true;
      My money is on Picard is an Android
      Dad predicts that *KHAN!?* was behind it all

    • @russellarcher5181
      @russellarcher5181 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @Lics Norgi My reasoning; because I was deliberately bad writing this, Picard Died at the end of Nemisis, so Data reconstructed him, with false memories; and the more I think of it, the more I want to die...

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals Pƙed 4 lety

      @@russellarcher5181 Hah, wont that be amazing.

  • @MrAlcazar
    @MrAlcazar Pƙed 4 lety +23

    CBS has perverted this once great series. That scene with Borg having it's cybernetic implants being taken out while alive is NOT Star Trek! Rodenberry would've never allowed that. Kurtzman and his ilk, do not understand or respect this show and what it's really about. To them it's just an excuse to use curse words and violence, cause they THINK that's what people really wanted to see in Star Trek. It's typical Abrams fluff. Science that doesn't really make sense, even within the fictional universe's rules. Poorly developed characters, and contrived, bloated C.G. action scenes. I'm glad I don't have all access. I'd never use the fucking thing, especially for this.

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion Pƙed 4 lety +1

      All this is really about CBS and other big networks and corporations out there just dont want to make things properly to cater to the fans anymore. They are purely motivated by "MONEY", they have seen recent popular shows like Walking Dead and Game of Thrones, they have witnessed the sheer amount of viewers those shows reeled in each week, and it was alot. Those shows captured the interest of just regular "mainstream audience", who would have never been interested in those genres before, as well as the fanbase that was already there through the books and comics;
      CBS in their greed to make their streaming service "CBS ACCESS" the top-dog and compete with all the rest, are absolutely desperate to make one of their biggest IPs the "Star Trek" franchise appeal to this samekind of huge, mainstream audience.
      And this is fundamentally the main reason why CBS have no desire to stick to the original format of exploration, and themes of ethics, morality and philosophy, basically thinking-man's science fiction ofwhich Gene Rodenberry's Star Trek always was. And its because if they keep the show sticking to it's roots, they only generate "Fansbase" money, which in statistics only amounts to like a quarter of the tv viewing public.
      I dont agree with this either, but this is the truth today, sadly our beloved franchises are owned by big, greedy, fat bloated corporations, who are only interested in making as much money as they can in this digital world of the streaming service.
      It really is kind of thanks to GoT and The Walking Dead that now everyone seeks to copy and emulate those shows, with the excessive violence, mystery box twists, episodic writing, sex and incest. They're all trying to go that way because they thinks thats most popular, sadly us "fanbases" just dont matter anymore.

    • @TheAlienGangster
      @TheAlienGangster Pƙed 4 lety +1

      They’d rather pander to morons and SJWs over their dedicated fanbase.

  • @volpe_sol
    @volpe_sol Pƙed 4 lety +11

    Watch THE EXPANSE instead and forget all this trash they're putting out with Star Trek slapped on top of.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 Pƙed 4 lety +39

    "Disengage!"

    • @mercenaryninja
      @mercenaryninja Pƙed 4 lety

      Yora I laughed so hard at this for some reason, thanks.

  • @raghushe2083
    @raghushe2083 Pƙed 4 lety +28

    this is not Star Trek: Picard, but Star Trek: JL

  • @Porphyrios1
    @Porphyrios1 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Star Trek went from being about the optimism & the best of humanity, to being about pessimism & the worst of humanity.

  • @77Treasurehunter77
    @77Treasurehunter77 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Star Wars Fan Base: "Trekkies welcome to the club..........we feel your pain!"

  • @cochiserivera
    @cochiserivera Pƙed 4 lety +140

    This isn’t Star Trek

  • @Gnarrkhaz
    @Gnarrkhaz Pƙed 4 lety +59

    In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.
    - Gene Roddenberry

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      even warhammer 40k new you had to offset there shear deprssion and horror with awesomeness mega deadly battles countless armies and ships warriors beuond reality and a sheer sense of scale beyond anything but some old presucsor scifi like the culture

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Lol.

    • @TheFanRift
      @TheFanRift Pƙed 4 lety +5

      One of the lead writers on DS9 worked with Gene Roddenberry on TOS and said that Gene strongly belived that the Federation should not go to war... He then said that he belived Roddenberry was wrong and that what they should show is how the Utopian Society seen in Star Trek can deal with and overcome a war like scenario...
      And you know what, The Dominion War is one of the best arcs in all of television because of that one creative choice... Up until then it was off the table by the majority of Star Trek writers...

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@TheFanRift agreed and it perfectly represents the fedeations ideals being the writer himself as he had the same reaction too a serious war shock and horror but when explained the reason as the greatest test of there ideals agreed or in the federations case when they realised what the dominion were and realised if they belived in there ideas they couldnt NOT go to war agasint a hostile embodiment of the antithesis of there ideas again thats why i call the dominion war the world war 2 of star trek

    • @-JustHuman-
      @-JustHuman- Pƙed 4 lety

      @@TheFanRift Well that's because it's mostly taken from Babylon 5's story ark. :P

  • @suddenlywat
    @suddenlywat Pƙed 4 lety +8

    You should watch Star Trek: Picard because it has space ninjas.
    ...I'm really trying to work out who this show was actually made for. The writers clearly don't like Star Trek.

  • @numbers9to0
    @numbers9to0 Pƙed 4 lety +9

    Needs more lense flairs, and cowbell.

  • @TheAlienGangster
    @TheAlienGangster Pƙed 4 lety +87

    Everybody in this show is about as interesting as a Sand Snake. I think the writers thought they were making the next Game of Thrones.

    • @CrazyBoy-zu5ox
      @CrazyBoy-zu5ox Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Ayyoo. Altought season 5 was way better than season 8

    • @TheAlienGangster
      @TheAlienGangster Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Crazy Boy that’s depressingly true

    • @bonesawarm6987
      @bonesawarm6987 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Crazy Boy season 2 was much better than season 5

    • @CrazyBoy-zu5ox
      @CrazyBoy-zu5ox Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @@bonesawarm6987 but 6, 4 and 3 were the best

  • @TruckerJenkins82
    @TruckerJenkins82 Pƙed 4 lety +74

    May this era of generic current year wankathons pass quickly

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Pƙed 4 lety +4

      I actually hope this will kill those franchises and give rise to other lookalikes that will truly honor the past

    • @diegowushu
      @diegowushu Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@silverhawkroman The Orville?

  • @Brandon12983
    @Brandon12983 Pƙed 4 lety +14

    7:04 exactly, there's a reason that fans were attracted to the franchise in the first place, why change the entire formula

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion Pƙed 4 lety

      Its a mixture of things tbh. Today we have big corporations like Disney, buying everything up. Studios competing with eachother, using audiences and fans basically as ATMs they think they can just milk cash from whenever.
      1. Where Star Trek is concerned you have a licensing issue between Paramount and CBS, who split then merged again in a new deal with Viacom who originally own the rights to the original "Star Trek" canon.
      2. In 2009 JJ came in with a alternate license which he thought if he made Star Trek appeal to a wider, mainstream audience, he could milk money off of planned merchandising, this he marketed heavily as a alternate universe of Star Trek, or the "Kelvin Timeline".
      3. CBS and Paramount thought this would work well for both of them, only it failed because JJ's Alt Trek movies never took off once Trekkies began to realize it was too stylish, too action orientated and just didnt feel like "Star Trek".
      4. CBS tried to carry this on going back to Tv but were very vague about how they sold it to fans and audiences. So we got Star Trek Discovery, which although was not set in the Kelvin timeline of JJ's Trek movies, still was not even set in the canon "Star Trek" main timeline of TOS, TNG, DS9 and VGR.
      Discovery was met with luke warm reception and once the second season rolled along, enough Fan had checked out feeling it also was too far away from proper "Star Trek", too generic. So CBS try again thinking they can get away with the same generic shit with no substance, only they bring back a iconic, legendary character, "Jean Luc Picard", hoping it will gain fan's interest. It did but people are soon starting to see this Picard series is same toned down for mainstream audience and not "real Star Trek".

  • @brianpadraig
    @brianpadraig Pƙed 4 lety +4

    I humbly suggest that the fanbase should headcanon this as the "Stewart-verse" and consider it as the same level of canon as the "Shatner-verse" novels--vanity projects by the actors who played the characters, not to be taken seriously by anyone.

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause Pƙed 4 lety +54

    So Star Trek: Picard has a person of Latin American descent as the captain/pilot of a ship, whose job is to illegally transport people into areas where they don't belong. So he is sort of like a futuristic version of a Mexican coyote who takes undocumented immigrants across national borders. For a show that is trying to be "woke", Picard's casting sure seems racist 😉

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Pƙed 4 lety +19

      in case you didnt realize, the woke mindset is racist to the core. They're advocates of identity politics in every aspect of it. It's racist and it's disgusting. They've now infiltrated television and we have to deal with this garbage on our screens

    • @TobaxSkosto
      @TobaxSkosto Pƙed 4 lety

      Star Trek has always been progressive, maybe you missed that

    • @sjent
      @sjent Pƙed 4 lety +11

      @@TobaxSkosto Except what is "progressive" now and what was progressive then are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

    • @TailAbNormal
      @TailAbNormal Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Don't forget the black female admiral who was fired and become a poor drug addict who abandoned her family.

    • @TobaxSkosto
      @TobaxSkosto Pƙed 4 lety

      @@sjent Ok, please explain how

  • @georgevelvet4272
    @georgevelvet4272 Pƙed 4 lety +38

    Joe "This isnt babylon 5!" lol thank you. but this can never touch b5.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver Pƙed 4 lety

      CBS is looking for new franchise to go through the tender mercies of a "soft reboot".

    • @gurobano4179
      @gurobano4179 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Babylon 5 is better than any woke shit nowadays

    • @rageagaintstheNWO
      @rageagaintstheNWO Pƙed 4 lety +1

      B5 even at it's worst was far better than this pile of Vorlon shit.

  • @omegagilgamesh
    @omegagilgamesh Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Honestly, while the recent Star Trek movies have been bombastic and fun...they just lack Gene Roddenberry's intellectualism and vision for the future. They were trying to apply modern character flaws and growth to what was meant to be a more mature mankind.
    And here I see (or rather, hear) that Picard has devolved backward even more.

  • @Lambda.Function
    @Lambda.Function Pƙed 4 lety +3

    The thing that's so quintessentially Star Trek is that the protagonists are usually objective people with their own lives we follow with the show, but every episode they're put into a situation which makes you think. It makes you think about say unfettered capitalism, greed, ethical and moral issues, issues of gender and race discrimination, etc. But that's up to you to think about, the story doesn't force it, it works just fine even if you don't take that away from it. Picard is just in your face just like STD. It's bad writing; it makes for bad TV.

  • @invertedpolarity6890
    @invertedpolarity6890 Pƙed 4 lety +53

    Also, the show is called Star Trek: Picard, yet they haven't done shit with his character.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      except make him moppy sad and groveling on his belly every episode so from now on i deem him jack luke micard the infeiro copy of jaune luc picard just like how new luke skywalker isnt luke but jake skystalker the cribling depressed tit sucker

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@wilmagregg3131 And given him his chateaux in VR, despite him being glad he left it. Reusing scenes anyone?

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@wilmagregg3131 Sets I mean.

    • @hotlinechernobyl5157
      @hotlinechernobyl5157 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Oh they have done plenty with his character, the whole show is a character assassination

    • @923crono
      @923crono Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Picard will probably be sucking on alien titty milk soon on a desolate planet after being left all alone. Gotta subvert expectations... again

  • @camerona2509
    @camerona2509 Pƙed 4 lety +35

    All I can say is, RIP my Romulans. You were once the most conniving and tactful species in the galaxy to being reduced to a space joke. :(
    It was fun while it lasted

  • @billhell7143
    @billhell7143 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Its like the people making this "show" don't care and only thing they do know is hate, star trek is dead the swearing the violence the bad writing its all for trying to push a political agenda. hey the orville is great though

  • @MatoVuc
    @MatoVuc Pƙed 4 lety +20

    9:30 "Everything is female in this. (...) All the important characters are female. There are no important male characters, except Picard, i guess."
    Welcome to the progressive future, Joe.

    • @LoponStormbased
      @LoponStormbased Pƙed 4 lety

      "Well why does that matter all the important characters before were male (Ignoring all those important female characters)!"
      ~ ResetEra probably.

    • @macplumber
      @macplumber Pƙed 4 lety +1

      So woke, so brave... 😐

    • @reactions5783
      @reactions5783 Pƙed 4 lety

      I think you mean, "JL Cuckard" ... "Jean-Luc Picard" is nowhere to be seen in this "unmitigated disaster."

  • @OverlordZephyros
    @OverlordZephyros Pƙed 4 lety +79

    The ORVILLE
    Is still the best star trek in recent times

    • @jamessalvatore7054
      @jamessalvatore7054 Pƙed 4 lety

      damn right

    • @tawabunny
      @tawabunny Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Seriously. Identity Parts I and II was the best fucking sci-fi I've seen from the 21st century aside from The Expanse. It was so fucking refreshing. Proper Trek-esque drama.

    • @TheFanRift
      @TheFanRift Pƙed 4 lety

      For the love of God just let the Orville be the Orville... By constantly claiming it's the true star trek or whatever all you do is devalue it

    • @tawabunny
      @tawabunny Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@TheFanRift While I agree we should let The Orville be the Orville, I don't think we devalue it when we compare it to Trek. We're giving it a compliment. It's what CBS failed to deliver.
      Though I would prefer if its comedic elements were toned down further.

    • @TheFanRift
      @TheFanRift Pƙed 4 lety

      @@tawabunny They were toned down... It's called Season 2

  • @graphicsgod
    @graphicsgod Pƙed 4 lety +65

    I'm starting to get into "The Expanse." Not sure if I like it or not, just finished the first season.. But it is interesting! Much better than Picard.

    • @jaydaytoday3548
      @jaydaytoday3548 Pƙed 4 lety +25

      It gets way better.

    • @cclark8469
      @cclark8469 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      It's good and you'll like and realize do not screw with Amos

    • @stevemartegani
      @stevemartegani Pƙed 4 lety +10

      I rewatched all of Expanse before season 4 aired. Season 1 is a little slow, but man does it lay serious ground work for the rest of the series.
      It gets better and better too with each season. Can't wait for season 5!

    • @Athraxes
      @Athraxes Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Read the books... so much better than the trashy tv show. It's not crap but when u read the books you kinda expected so much more... and not this syfy stuff

    • @graphicsgod
      @graphicsgod Pƙed 4 lety

      @@jaydaytoday3548 Thats what I keep hearing.. So I'm trying to power through it to get to the later seasons. I'm already at season 2, episode 5. And all I have to say is WTF LOL!!

  • @peterblades
    @peterblades Pƙed 4 lety +11

    They turned Picard into a senile SJW who hates everything and acts on emotions. They destroyed one of the best characters of Star Trek because of who he originally was: a charismatic leader who was guided by wisdom and reason, something the people writing ST nowadays absolutely abhor.

  • @Gredddfe
    @Gredddfe Pƙed 4 lety +3

    "We went from Space Vegas to Space Cube to find the Space Racists who are being lead by the Robosexual."
    Thank you for elegantly summarising my issues with the plot.

  • @shawnescott
    @shawnescott Pƙed 4 lety +30

    "I can't do this anymore guys" - Angry Joe (haha)

  • @infinity1323
    @infinity1323 Pƙed 4 lety +79

    24:58 Did Joe just say that Discovery has "logic?"
    I guess he was talking about using sonar in space.

    • @EnsignRedshirtRicky
      @EnsignRedshirtRicky Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Or seeing light a few seconds after it happens half-way across the galaxy, or one of the other thousand plot holes.

    • @ApolloXL5
      @ApolloXL5 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      @@EnsignRedshirtRicky or witnessing a shooting star....in deep space.

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      or my favourite one, having a character easily pick up a chunk of dark matter with their hand while under earth levels of gravity. and then in the next episode specify that dark mattery is extremely dense and have a tiny piece of it weigh several tons. they cant even maintain their own internal logic in the show.

    • @TheAlienGangster
      @TheAlienGangster Pƙed 4 lety +8

      It writes its own rules, like new Star Wars. It’s a complete turn off for any fans that actually care about consistency.

    • @goreobsessed2308
      @goreobsessed2308 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@TheAlienGangster yes that is my main issue

  • @PhantomLAM
    @PhantomLAM Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Them trying to say the Romulans invented the Borg is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Guinan was the ancient alien species who had the only known conflict with them and warned Picard about them. This shit makes no sense, and I laugh that Patrick was forced to go on The View to ask Whoopie to come back for Season 2. They are aware of her but they aren't aware that the Borg is older than the Vulcans and Romulans? Fuck them! Even the Q Continuum knew about the Borg. So Alex-fucking-Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman want me to believe the Romulans invented them? If the Borg already knew about the Alpha Quadrant what was keeping them from showing up earlier? This bullshit hack writing is ruining what used to be great television. Serialization is the death of this franchise. The beautiful thing about old Trek was that if an episode sucked here and there you could always look forward to the next one since they were all self contained stories in a bottle. Bottle Episodes fit Star Trek, yes we love connective tissue and things to keep us tuning in but designing a show around an entire premise that turns off a majority of the viewer-base which both fans and nonfans vehemently dislike, then something is very wrong.
    The people involved in this don't care and they will keep doing this. Noah Hawley was tapped to write a new Star Trek film script and they fucking rejected it for being and I quote "Too Trekkie" what-in-the-fuck does it matter? That is the name of the brand. Imagine if any other franchise treated a writer like that, it's absolutely ridicoulous. "I got this great script for 24" - "That's waaaaay too much like 24 we need something more like Mr.Magoo" the logic of these studio heads is fucking laughable and Alex Kurtzman can rot in fucking hell for doing this. When Bryan Fuller found out how they ripped off his ideas YET AGAIN for STP he apparently cried. Not tears of joy but just tears of total confusion at the display of plagiarism. I suggest you read up on what Bryans plans were for Discovery and his idea for a show after Nemesis, and I'll tell you this, they were both light years better than what we got. Alex Kurtzman is the biggest asshole in Hollywood and I have no idea how he's been allowed to ruin as many franchises as possible. Thank god that Universal seems to finally be making a comeback with Invisible Man after what Kurtzman did with that fucking atrocious Mummy film.

  • @jhcoverdrive9287
    @jhcoverdrive9287 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    5:40 - the fact that humans and the federation had things like poverty and disease well figured out for TNG timeline allowed them to tackle any issue that was currently really going on through a unique sort of lens.

  • @luiszuniga5037
    @luiszuniga5037 Pƙed 4 lety +52

    Personally, Raffi calling him "JL"
    Sounds wonky to me.

    • @blankname6629
      @blankname6629 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Luis Zuniga doesn’t seem to fit the character that he would allow someone to call him JL

    • @davidkymdell452
      @davidkymdell452 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      I can't stand everything about that character. She's annoying as fuck.

    • @MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE
      @MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Cunty

    • @gargamellenoir8460
      @gargamellenoir8460 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      It's just not natural, it doesn't roll off the tongue so it's not a nickname you'd actually give to a friend.

    • @sargon6000
      @sargon6000 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Good thing they didn't decide to make a series about Ben Sisko and have his second-in-command call him BS.
      Or give in to Shatner's ego and make a series about a revived 90-year old Kirk that's called JK by everyone.

  • @TheDayRogue
    @TheDayRogue Pƙed 4 lety +49

    Alex was a great addition to the show, miss him when rewatching all the older content, great work guys 😃

  • @willytonjc
    @willytonjc Pƙed 4 lety +3

    I'm operating under the belief that everything after Nemesis is an alt reality created by the Q Continuum who are still amused by JLPs responses.

  • @bobbobson110
    @bobbobson110 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    3:31 In the range of the super nova? It would take several light years for a super nova to reach the next star. After 20 years only a handful of stars should even be affected. The other stars and their planets wouldn't get destroyed because of a super nova several light years away but the gamma radiation would have an extremely negative impact on the atmosphere of planets and nearly every form of life it hits. But with future technology there should be no problem at all because they have shields to protect them. And they also have several years to prepare.
    How is it even possible for the Romulan star to go super nova without showing any signs before that? They should have had thousands of years to prepare. Even today we can predict pretty well when stars go super nova (I look at you Betelgeuse). The star being a red giant is a pretty good hint that there isn't that much time left.

    • @pills-
      @pills- Pƙed 4 lety +2

      We have seen stars suddenly go supernova in ST before (usually because of some sort of villainry), so it is internally consistent with the ST universe. What's not consistent is why no one thinks it's weird for a star to suddenly explode...

    • @NickSquids
      @NickSquids Pƙed 4 lety

      It's an analogy for climate change. Including climate refugees.

  • @connormarshall3656
    @connormarshall3656 Pƙed 4 lety +57

    It’s like they’re in the mirror universe of everything that made Star Trek great

    • @TechnoMinarchistBall
      @TechnoMinarchistBall Pƙed 4 lety +7

      The writers don't know what makes Star Trek great. They just want to make explosions and nihilism.

    • @TechnoMinarchistBall
      @TechnoMinarchistBall Pƙed 4 lety +2

      And PC messages.

    • @Mariomario-gt4oy
      @Mariomario-gt4oy Pƙed 4 lety

      @@TechnoMinarchistBall yeah cuz old star trek never had any messages..dipshit.

    • @lovecchio420
      @lovecchio420 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      @@Mariomario-gt4oy At the benefit of the story, not at the expense of it.

    • @CC-vv2ne
      @CC-vv2ne Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Modern americojew culture is cancer, and media is always portraying current culture so dont expect a lot of good content out of movies and tv anymore.
      The only decent movie made in last year is a fricking korean movie....

  • @iinvaderrand
    @iinvaderrand Pƙed 4 lety +12

    Are we not gunna talk about how icheb was completely used as a throwaway character. "Kill him to get 7 of 9s story going."

  • @Pitchguest
    @Pitchguest Pƙed 4 lety +3

    9:26 Joe: 
 "storyline of these assassins that are ALL female 
"
    Alex: *The nuns.*
    đŸ€Ł

  • @lowket
    @lowket Pƙed 4 lety +15

    Star Trek: dead since 2005.