What is the future of Taiwan? 台灣 :為何獨立只是夢想

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
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  • @livinlavidaluke
    @livinlavidaluke  Před 8 měsíci +32

    You can find a full range of interviews I made with locals about China here, including the good, bad and the ugly: czcams.com/users/shortsbEFAUvW5w6U
    The question posed to the people in the interview was "Can you describe Mainland China in 1-2 words"

    • @jaydee6268
      @jaydee6268 Před 8 měsíci

      Dude! You have absolutely no idea how much the narrative contributes to the instability to the region. You need to tell people in China if they are will to die to try and “reunite” Taiwan with China, they will.
      Edited to add: Seems to me Taiwan is living the dream.

    • @user-rj5ij2un3x
      @user-rj5ij2un3x Před 8 měsíci

      In your opinion - that's all中国正在统一 也必将统一(China is reunifying and will certainly be reunified
      ) @@jaydee6268

    • @jaydee6268
      @jaydee6268 Před 8 měsíci

      ⁠@@user-rj5ij2un3xAn opinion as valid as yours or Xi’s.
      As stated elsewhere it may well happen, but only under duress which makes China’s Taiwan policy pretty prickish. Reminds me of the rape of the Sabines.
      Anyway, I hear the dogs of war barking. The US Navy will be at its weakest over the next two years so things may well heat up if Xi wants it.

  • @james-huang
    @james-huang Před 8 měsíci +279

    Well said! 👍You are a wise Westerner who thinks independently about the Taiwan issue. Actually, the Taiwan issue originated from Chinese civil war in 1949 (just like the American Civil War in 1865). So, there is no reason for the US to interference in China’s internal affairs and the solution between Chinese on both sides of the strait.

    • @jaydee6268
      @jaydee6268 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Of course, to those living on Kinmen, Taiwan is the “Mainland.”😂

    • @marvinfok65
      @marvinfok65 Před 8 měsíci

      US is a joke and a total hypocrite! If US really wanted to support Taiwan's independence, US should break diplomatic relationship with China and resume diplomatic relations with Taiwan instead!
      US sold Taiwan out in 1979 breaking diplomatic relationship with Taiwan for China!

  • @86laowhy80
    @86laowhy80 Před 8 měsíci +85

    This is one of the most level headed explanations I have seen. I don't get involved because I'm a foreigner and it's not my business. In general, I'm against foreigners getting involved, but this clear unbiased information is good.

  • @csjmb6193
    @csjmb6193 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I'm a Taiwanese. I love Taiwan and I love China! After years of disappointments with the serious corruption from both parties, especially Democratic Progressive Party which runs the gov't, I honestly would rather China take over Taiwan for better future.

    • @Unnamed7964
      @Unnamed7964 Před 8 měsíci

      You're probably not aware that the PRC is politically dominated by one single party that controls every single branch of power. If you knew anything about structures of governance, you wouldn't endorse an authoritarian one single party state over a better organized republic.

  • @hauyeng2265
    @hauyeng2265 Před 8 měsíci +74

    我是台灣人,完全支持你的說法,任何一個以事實與邏輯思維的人都會同意。我身處於一個集體弱智的島上,感到很自閉。感謝你

    • @user-ze9pi3on6k
      @user-ze9pi3on6k Před 8 měsíci +8

      坚持自己 看透事情本质 不必自闭 中国人与你在一起 欢迎加入

    • @eswirdimmerbesser4251
      @eswirdimmerbesser4251 Před 8 měsíci +7

      兄弟 想你這樣的人 島上還有多少啊 😢😢😢 幾乎不到百分之十了吧 真的希望可以和平統一啊 我們中國人 團結起來 不久後絕對是世界最強國家 可惜。。。。。。

    • @chiehlilee9224
      @chiehlilee9224 Před 8 měsíci

      支持你投奔對岸 don’t let the door hit you on your way out

    • @antonyjun5758
      @antonyjun5758 Před 8 měsíci

      人民是最容易被牵着鼻子走的

    • @suneric109
      @suneric109 Před 8 měsíci +2

      承认中华民族,承认中华文化的就是中国人。中国人不打中国人~欢迎回来同胞和我们一起见证中华文明伟大复兴。

  • @grz1203
    @grz1203 Před 8 měsíci +49

    非常公正和清醒的视频👍🏻你对中国大陆与台湾之间的历史和关系十分了解,来自中国的尊重❤🇨🇳

    • @timsecond
      @timsecond Před 8 měsíci +2

      十分了解如何赚走中国人的钱,大家还当傻子给他点赞

    • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
      @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci

      他賺錢賺錢唄 點個讚而已啦!本身在這外網有幾個能正確看待問題的?本來反華是主流,一個讚而已不為過!必須支持!哪怕讓他們說事實 他們都不願意說 非要潑髒水!這樣的說實話的博主 為啥不支持?腦子有病😅

  • @REDSUN-8
    @REDSUN-8 Před 8 měsíci +81

    Correct answer!! Taiwan’s constitution states that Taiwan is the Taiwan Province of the Republic of China. The constitution stipulates that the territory of the Republic of China includes the mainland and Taiwan Island, so the referendum must be participated by all Chinese people!!

    • @martinfiedler4317
      @martinfiedler4317 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Wrong, the ROC-constitution does not state any such thing. It establishes Taiwan as a sovereign, independent country; not as a federal state of any "China".
      Any readmission of the mainland territory would need to be approved by a majority of Taiwanese voters.
      Not likely to happen...

    • @REDSUN-8
      @REDSUN-8 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@martinfiedler4317Wow~ When did Taiwan amend the Constitution of the Republic of China? Are you from Taiwan? The DPP doesn't even dare to change it, so what qualifications do you have to change the constitution on behalf of the people of Taiwan? Who are you😅sovereign country? Who recognizes you as a sovereign country? In 1971, the Republic of China was expelled from the United Nations. Member states passed resolutions deciding that the People's Republic of China is the only legitimate political power representing China. Listen carefully, it is the only legal government. So Taiwan is an illegal regime that is not recognized by the world!! This is why almost all countries in the world have only established diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China! ! Not to mention that Taiwan was kicked out of the United Nations, and even participating in the Olympics cannot use the name of the Republic of China. You haven't woken up yet and have been fooled by the DPP. You are so pitiful.

    • @humansarecrazybeing5730
      @humansarecrazybeing5730 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@martinfiedler4317 lol western colonizers white supremacist like you shouldn't lie😂😂

    • @user-nq7vo6lo1m
      @user-nq7vo6lo1m Před 8 měsíci +11

      @@martinfiedler4317 谁跟你联邦?我们是一个国家,不是联邦

    • @elewhite5873
      @elewhite5873 Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@martinfiedler4317 你才是错的,他们的宪法里国土包含大陆地区

  • @andrewgeorge1306
    @andrewgeorge1306 Před 8 měsíci +60

    I'm very surprised to watch an unbiased, well-informed, objective, authorative video covering the most trickling thing that currently plaguing Taiwan.

  • @kungyin
    @kungyin Před 8 měsíci +157

    想要獨立當然可以獨立,不會有人反對,但不可以在中國的土地獨立,獨派可以去海地買塊地獨立,也是強權東南方,離美國爸爸也很近。

    • @cheungchingtong
      @cheungchingtong Před 8 měsíci +13

      离天堂太远 离美国太近哈哈哈

    • @REDSUN-8
      @REDSUN-8 Před 8 měsíci +2

      正解👍👍

    • @user-nk3rh2sn5n
      @user-nk3rh2sn5n Před 8 měsíci +10

      离美国太近都知道会发生什么了,看看整个美洲😂

    • @aungaisum8654
      @aungaisum8654 Před 8 měsíci +1

      👍👍👍

    • @yudogcome5901
      @yudogcome5901 Před 8 měsíci

      没有台湾岛,那台湾人还有什么利用价值?你有钱,有技术的话,直接成为美国人很容易,其他的人没价值为什么美国人会养你?

  • @user-wk8dx2ie4j
    @user-wk8dx2ie4j Před 8 měsíci +53

    看到一個有獨立思考的年輕外國小夥子,非常棒

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Před 8 měsíci +5

      谢谢哈哈

    • @user-me7zp5hu7b
      @user-me7zp5hu7b Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@livinlavidalukeI appreciate what you did, actually many people here think we are Chinese and Taiwanese at the same time, but DDP hates China, they controlls the main media to spread some twisted news about China and want to make people to hate, and why they do this just because many of them lost their profits from Japan since KMT took over Taiwan after Japan surrendered after world war 2. KMT made some policies to make poor farmers to get more lands from the rich people, which made those rich people unhappy, that's why they hate KMT. The DDP supporters got brain washed by the fake history created by DDP, that's the worst thing, actually most of us came from China, but DDP want us to cut all the culture connections with China, that's insane, and if we recognise ourselves are generations of Chinese, many of DDP's supporters will say : get out of Taiwan.

    • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
      @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@livinlavidaluke 這在世界媒體 可太難得了!關注你了 夥計😂

  • @peterwang5272
    @peterwang5272 Před 8 měsíci +5

    作为台湾人的前同胞大陆人,我愿意捐钱让台湾人在南极买地独立建国❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @growbear
    @growbear Před 8 měsíci +6

    I was born and grew up in Taiwan. You are 100% correct and I deeply appreciate your efforts in debunking the nonsensical, meta-narrative based nonsense like "freedom", "democracy" peddled by Taiwanese DPP to try to overturn international law. Your arguments are based on reason and facts, not religious meta-narratives! My respect!
    Look at the CSA. Look at Catalonia. Look at Scotland. Look at South Vietnam. Did freedom, democracy, self-determination help them in any way? No! And in these cases they even VOTED to secede, unlike Taiwan/ROC, whose constitution still says Taiwan is a province of China.
    By the way, the US Supreme Court has ruled that, if Texas wants to secede, it must pass a referendum held among, not all Texans, but all Americans.
    By international law, the mainland Chinese have paid the requisite price in blood and fire to EARN back their claim to Taiwan in 1945. Nothing changed ever since. If the Taiwanese want to change the international law, then stand up like a man, pay a commensurate price in blood and fire and EARN it! I can support that. Don't bark like a dog behind the master and hope others will pay that price for you so you can steal it!
    Keep up the good work! It's great for you to be in Taiwan and make your and other Taiwanese's righteous voices heard!

  • @xiao-rongpeng9804
    @xiao-rongpeng9804 Před 8 měsíci +47

    You see through things! The fight is actually between US and China, hence yes independence is a dream!

    • @monipenny408
      @monipenny408 Před 8 měsíci

      America can talk until the cows come home.
      China does not care and does not require America's approval, the reverse is true, China has no say over Hawaii, Texas, or California secession nor does it care.

  • @oasisgzry6183
    @oasisgzry6183 Před 8 měsíci +149

    Yes, we can vote. but it must involve the entire nation, including TW and mainland.

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Před 8 měsíci +47

      Exaclty! Because Taiwan isn’t a country, so the whole country should vote including mainland

    • @Sean-giang
      @Sean-giang Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@livinlavidalukeunfortunately taiwan is the ROC. It's no different than the ROK located in the southern half of korea. Taiwan can do whatever it wants without consequence

    • @LW78321
      @LW78321 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Exactly! I really agreed with this point that you and Luke made

    • @felisasininus1784
      @felisasininus1784 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@Sean-giang Go look up a proper map of the ROC. And see if it contains the whole of Mainland China.
      Ignoramus. 😂

    • @irone7050
      @irone7050 Před 8 měsíci +17

      @@Sean-giang BS, every action has consequences. If DPRK insist on reclaiming ROK's controlled territory, by your logic, they can do that too. Same with PRC if they so desired. Difference being DPRK had armistice with ROK while PRC and ROC had no truce signed. You want a war? The choice is yours then.

  • @user-hn8ss7nx3z
    @user-hn8ss7nx3z Před 8 měsíci +16

    我来自中国大陆,我们从小被教育是台湾是我们兄弟,欢迎台湾小朋友来内地玩。就是主观上大陆人对台湾是绝对友善的教育。

    • @argus-r1j
      @argus-r1j Před 7 měsíci

      对岸的教育跟我们正好相反!
      网上上对我们恶意最大的就是台湾人。
      不管发什么视频,可能完全跟政治无关的视频,甚至只是拍个城市风光,都是引来台湾人的谩骂。

    • @argus-r1j
      @argus-r1j Před 7 měsíci

      说白了,某地“畏威而不怀德”。
      日本打的他们越惨,他们越爱。
      “友台”根本解决不了对立的问题,必须下狠手才能获得尊重。

  • @jones8204
    @jones8204 Před 8 měsíci +27

    这是我第一次见到在台湾拍视频没有踩大陆捧台湾吸引流量的外国人,感谢你的客观发言

  • @LW78321
    @LW78321 Před 8 měsíci +22

    Well said, Luke 👍👍 if only more people could think as clearly as you do

  • @Ateshtesh
    @Ateshtesh Před 8 měsíci +28

    In general I think Taiwan people is very smart.
    Also is true that there is a lot of propaganda on some TV channels and because that a lot of young people fall into some misinformation.
    But even like that the people is reasonable and you can talk and debate with them respectfully and is a really enrichment experience.
    I hope they can reach a good agreement with the mainland and avoid the war.
    A peacefully reunification with one country two systems I think is still a good idea but I think all will depends on what their people vote for.

    • @REDSUN-8
      @REDSUN-8 Před 8 měsíci +10

      The Constitution of the Republic of China stipulates that the territory of the Republic of China consists of the mainland and Taiwan Island, so the decision must be made by all 1.425 billion Chinese people!!

    • @Ateshtesh
      @Ateshtesh Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@REDSUN-8 I mean in an idealist scenario of course should be like that.
      But Taiwan has in the practice its own government and in order to peacefully reunify is necessary that the local government of Taiwan negotiate with Mainland China.
      Is the people of Taiwan who has the power to vote for the party that is willing to do that.
      USA knows that very well, that is why they spent a lot of money on propaganda to convince Taiwan people to choose the parties that want to separate.
      Anyway, lets see what happen.

    • @REDSUN-8
      @REDSUN-8 Před 8 měsíci +6

      ​@@AteshteshYou have to understand that the Taiwan government is just a local government!! The constitution of the Republic of China, which was expelled by the United Nations in 1971, stipulates that Taiwan is only a province. How does it have the qualifications to negotiate on an equal footing with the central government?? The constitution of the Republic of China stipulates that the territory includes the mainland and Taiwan, in this case, if Taiwan wants to be independent, it must pass a referendum of 1.4 billion people!!

    • @Ateshtesh
      @Ateshtesh Před 8 měsíci

      @@REDSUN-8 Im agreed.
      I just say, one thing is what it has to be, because the logic and other is what is it in the practice because the circumstances.
      In the practice to achieve the peaceful reunification is necessary that people vote for the party in the local government that negotiate that with the mainland.
      The green party seems to be payed by USA government, they just will try to resist and push a war forward.
      That ca be avoided with Taiwan people voting for blue party.
      But even like that, an agreement is still no 100% grantee.
      I hope they can reunify peacefully.

    • @hclau218
      @hclau218 Před 8 měsíci

      The USA that is always accusing Russia or China of "interfering" with US elections is always openly and directly interfering in other country's elections. Hypocrisy demonstrated almost daily now.

  • @jiegao574
    @jiegao574 Před 8 měsíci +11

    你完蛋了,哥们。YT的中文审核地方在台湾,他们会限制你流量了。你选的这个时间点也很不正确,台湾正在大选,民进党会认为你是在帮国民党选举。民进党出征,寸草不生。台湾问题很复杂,在YT上面台湾属于中国是政治不正确。公投这事,西班牙还是葡萄牙一个省不也是要独立公投,结果呢。台湾的教材被改掉了,不然早就统一了。现在的教材是台独教材,以前的台湾教材教的是“做一个堂堂正正的中国人”。

    • @fziyi
      @fziyi Před 8 měsíci

      哇塞,你真是明白人啊!

    • @user-mj9vs4dz8u
      @user-mj9vs4dz8u Před 8 měsíci

      正确的

    • @chihfantang9050
      @chihfantang9050 Před 8 měsíci

      YT只會針對仇恨言論 腥羶色做審查,你愛怎麼表達政治立場根本不會管
      不要自己在家裡被中共言論審查就以為全世界都會言論審查好嗎?

    • @jiegao574
      @jiegao574 Před 8 měsíci

      @@chihfantang9050 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,我笑死,我笑死。我笑死。先让历史哥别黄标行吗?直播间发言别吞好吗?搜中国东西,先面几十条都是bbc 美国之音,德国之音。哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,我笑死了。

    • @jiegao574
      @jiegao574 Před 8 měsíci

      @@chihfantang9050 政治立场不会审查,哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,我听过最搞笑的事情。不会审查,哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。能让我笑一个月。

  • @yewsingooi9573
    @yewsingooi9573 Před 8 měsíci +10

    You are probably the first Westerners in Taiwan that i watch in CZcams who look into this subject unbiased. Thumbs up.

  • @ahkoy973
    @ahkoy973 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Everything was stable until the americans stirred the pot for their own benefit... btw why won't they allow Hawaii or Guam to be independent?

  • @Qiushishuo
    @Qiushishuo Před 8 měsíci +7

    It is glad to see more foreigners can think more deep into the relationship between Taiwan and Chinese Mainland.
    BTW, your sre correct Taiwan is a province no matter in constitution of PRC or ROC.

  • @stanbimi
    @stanbimi Před 8 měsíci +17

    The Korean war was a bitter lesson for the mighty US military at the hands of the poorly equipped PLA. In recent years, every war game conducted by the US Think Tanks such as RAND & CSIS ended up with the same result. If American forces engage the PLA in the Taiwan strait region, the US will suffer huge losses and will be defeated. The US dare not get itself into a war with China directly, also a nuclear power. The US can't even handle the Viet Cong in the Vietnam war, or the Taliban in Afghanistan. The US will try to use proxies, as they used Ukraine to fight the Russians. In a recent Foreign Affairs article, three top US Chinese experts: Bonnie Glaser, Chen Weise, & Christensen are dispatched as unofficial vices to tell Taiwan's Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) to cool it. Shut up about independence, don't make trouble for the US.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain Před 8 měsíci +4

      It's the US pushing tw for independence , not the other way !

    • @stanbimi
      @stanbimi Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@peanut0brain True enough, but the US always plays both tactical and strategic games. In the short term they can't handle Ukraine, Palestine then add the Taiwan Strait. It must restraint DPP from crossing the red line. 2024 is big election year. In the long term the US always want to split up China using Colour Revolution means, e.g. Tibet (Xizang), Xinjiang, Hong Kong & Taiwan.

    • @monipenny408
      @monipenny408 Před 8 měsíci

      I wouldn't worry too much about U$ military, it is trained only to fight farmers wearing sandals. The UKR is proof that U$ is all talk, when confronted equally mighty nation, U$ normally send their vassals. U$ wanting to take on RF, China and Iran, they can certainly dream about it but dreaming of a victory doesn't actually win any battle.....just ask Elensky.

    • @Haijwsyz51846
      @Haijwsyz51846 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@peanut0brainUS does not really want Taiwan to be independent, but just want to have the tension so that US can sell weapons to Taiwan. US does not want game over but just want to keep the game going.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain Před 8 měsíci

      @@Haijwsyz51846 u smart 👍 US is selling all the old weapons to Ukraine and tw with high prices , letting the Ukrainians test them out (to the last Ukrainian soldier), to fund the making of new improved weapons for themselve to prepare for the war with China , according to Brian berletic of "the new atlas" channel

  • @YaleLaurie-cm8sk
    @YaleLaurie-cm8sk Před 8 měsíci +11

    有太多年輕人被洗腦了……

    • @fziyi
      @fziyi Před 8 měsíci

      畢竟90%以上的傳聲筒嘛😂!

  • @zhangqun9829
    @zhangqun9829 Před 8 měsíci +9

    第一个能不偏不倚讲台湾的西方人,赞哦

  • @henrylee3379
    @henrylee3379 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Most objective report about Taiwan that I have seen for ages, do you know what... you have done a far better job than the BBC 10 times over.

  • @kl9518
    @kl9518 Před 8 měsíci +19

    So true about Brexit. I hope Taiwan don't go down that route.
    That is why the Chinese government works because you have to have knowledge before voting.

  • @dsallen0716
    @dsallen0716 Před 8 měsíci +66

    身為一個台灣人, 我覺得你說得很好..
    以前我們是抱著昂望的眼光看著美國..
    但現在發現美國的民主與自由是虛偽的口號.
    也發現, 中國並不如西方或台灣媒體形容的那樣..
    慢慢的, 我覺得, 兩岸統一也可以是選項之一..

    • @user-jp6ky6rm2e
      @user-jp6ky6rm2e Před 8 měsíci +6

      我討厭民進黨,但也不喜歡小粉紅,建議你去B站玩一玩,UP主的思想根本就有問題,根本是被大陸同化了,雖然西方和台灣媒體誇大了一點,但還是真的一言堂.

    • @user-sv8td8ke5l
      @user-sv8td8ke5l Před 8 měsíci +17

      ​​@@user-jp6ky6rm2e哈哈哈,我是马来西亚的,我也玩b站,但我觉得影片中说的都是事实,我也去过中国,中国现在言论更自由这是我的感觉,我的中国朋友聊天可是什么都说,而且网路上骂共产党质疑体制的也有,就是b站上都有。

    • @user-jp6ky6rm2e
      @user-jp6ky6rm2e Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-sv8td8ke5l 我在B站三不五時就被封,祗要沒有老共好棒棒就一堆人罵我1450,我對大陸沒有排斥,我每月也花二三萬買淘寶,但大陸的言論自由算了吧,大陸所有資訊都要審過才能給你放出來,評論常常被吃掉,我B站目前還被封鎖中.

    • @user-jp6ky6rm2e
      @user-jp6ky6rm2e Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@user-sv8td8ke5l 影片中很多是事實,但並不完全正確,UP因在大陸學習不知不覺被同化早就失去客觀性,他說什麼台灣年輕人不看大陸新聞,笑死了,需審過的新聞能看嗎,我們的網路超自由,所以我們會看各種資訊,也不限定台灣而己.

    • @dsallen0716
      @dsallen0716 Před 8 měsíci +19

      @@user-jp6ky6rm2e up主來自民主國家, 我也來個台灣, 我們都看透了所謂"民主自由"的虛假本質..你不要帶著惡意與偏見看老共, 或許你就會發現"幹!我居然被媒體騙了那麼久"

  • @jmjt3709
    @jmjt3709 Před 8 měsíci +23

    Well researched, very correct, and very factual. 👍

  • @jorryzhu4615
    @jorryzhu4615 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Thanks for this video and your opinions

  • @jusang6265
    @jusang6265 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @nelsonwong4631
    @nelsonwong4631 Před 8 měsíci +24

    You forgot to mention 2 important facts: 1) Scotland had their independence referendum in 2014 with a 55% vote for NO, not "we didn't let them"; the UK Govt refused ("didn't let them") their request for a 2nd referendum; quite rightly one can't have repeated voting until one gets the desired result! 2) China issued a White Paper on Taiwan Reunification in 2022, stating clearly it would not take Taiwan by force, with the exception when external separatist interference is involved (e.g. by another country, you know who); China doesn't want ANY war with anyone but will defend itself when necessary.
    I do not think important question like independence should be dealt with by public referendum, it should be left to experts. Brexit was a good example.

    • @starfucks5327
      @starfucks5327 Před 8 měsíci +2

      和苏格兰不具有可比性,毕竟苏格兰是凯尔特人,不是盎萨人,另外苏格兰历史上也一直是一个独立的国家,有自己的king

    • @kevinrich5222
      @kevinrich5222 Před 8 měsíci +2

      This is because Scotland and England had discussed in advance the possibility of future separation before the merger, that is, Scotland had the right to leave the United Kingdom. However, the UK would not allow Wales and Northern Ireland to become independent, and there was a protracted war.

    • @starfucks5327
      @starfucks5327 Před 8 měsíci

      从1949年起,台湾就已经没有了大陆的主流资讯,大多数人还是相信媒体描绘的中国

    • @harisadu8998
      @harisadu8998 Před 8 měsíci

      He's clearly talking in bad faith if he forgets to mention that Scotland had a referendum. He gave the impression in the video that Scotland is not allowed a referendum. But they have already had it. In fact Quebec has had two referendums to leave Canada. So yes, the UK and Canada allow referendums to seceded from their own territory.

    • @kevinrich5222
      @kevinrich5222 Před 8 měsíci

      @@harisadu8998 A referendum on Scotland is one thing, whether it can leave is another. Scotland was allowed to vote because it was negotiated before joining the Kingdom, but Wales and Northern Ireland do not have this right, and the UK would not allow Northern Ireland to become independent even at the cost of war. The same thing applies to Canada. In addition, Catalonia also performed for you. Finally, don’t pretend to have forgotten a war called the American Civil War.

  • @sickg6417
    @sickg6417 Před 8 měsíci +6

    it was never the matter of referendum in human history,
    America wanted independence, and the overlord failed to hammer them, so it succeeded
    Catalonia wanted independence, and Spain just crushed them, so it failed,
    if one wants independence, he gotta fight the brutal war to get it

    • @irone7050
      @irone7050 Před 8 měsíci +1

      the truth has always been might is right

    • @yudogcome5901
      @yudogcome5901 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@irone7050Even without talking about the national historical connection, the government of the Republic of China took away gold and talents belonging to the entire Chinese people when it fled to Taiwan, laying the foundation for Taiwan's subsequent development. However, the people of the mainland struggled for many years on the basis of poverty to rise. On the mainland of Chinese people deserve to enjoy the benefits of investing in Taiwan

  • @user-gc9yh2ic4q
    @user-gc9yh2ic4q Před 8 měsíci +15

    By the ROC constitution, the territory encompasses the whole mainland China. And all mainlanders are ROC citizens .So a referendum must include the mainland to be legit. But we already know what the result will be if it goes ahead like that.
    Also by now most should have figured out voting does not prevent wars, is not the ultimate justice either. It is an action that bears its own consequences. The voters are seriously responsible for the consequences, especially when they include war and bloodshed.

  • @sensiblehk6859
    @sensiblehk6859 Před 8 měsíci +3

    No wars in Asia , too many already around the world. I hope Taiwanese people are sensible enough to know what is right for them.

  • @user-ro6hi7ii8z
    @user-ro6hi7ii8z Před 8 měsíci +17

    感谢您的公正报道 🎉❤

    • @user-jp6ky6rm2e
      @user-jp6ky6rm2e Před 8 měsíci

      笑死了🤣🤣,那裡公正,我沒有政黨傾向,也討厭民進黨,但UP主的言論明顯就被大陸同化了,早就不客觀了.

    • @user-ro6hi7ii8z
      @user-ro6hi7ii8z Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-jp6ky6rm2e 呵呵 你去看三立吧,你比较适合三立 蛙蛙

    • @user-jp6ky6rm2e
      @user-jp6ky6rm2e Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-ro6hi7ii8z 呵呵 一言堂CCTV忠實觀眾出現了 ,陸🐸快回籠子去,外面世界太危險不適合你,你在外面會看到一大堆沒有全面支持你主子的話,在你心中把家裡的女人送給主子來一發是光榮的,你應該很想把你老母送給高官來一發吧

    • @user-ro6hi7ii8z
      @user-ro6hi7ii8z Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-jp6ky6rm2e 台湾女人最喜欢非洲人 最喜欢日本男人

    • @user-jp6ky6rm2e
      @user-jp6ky6rm2e Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-ro6hi7ii8z 台灣女人喜歡非洲和日本男人你還有臉說出來,你我都要檢討了,大陸女人愛台灣人,還好台灣男人比大陸男人還強一點.

  • @siuchen7140
    @siuchen7140 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Very good video mate ❤

  • @jinlingliang4385
    @jinlingliang4385 Před 8 měsíci +21

    多谢🙏,中国人民永远支持正能量的外国友人,加油,我们永远支持你们哦,

  • @bunnyhop9465
    @bunnyhop9465 Před 8 měsíci +1

    我是海外华人,2017年曾到台灣觀光,在超市和一位年齡跟我差不多的小姐聊天,我们都反对民进党删改教科书,因为学習中国文化历史实在太重要了!!!

  • @pikachus5m166
    @pikachus5m166 Před 8 měsíci +12

    As mentioned, Taiwan is but a province, just as Alaska, California and Hawaii are states, but I agree those states should secede, and Texas returned to Mexico.

  • @user-vv8zb6og2u
    @user-vv8zb6og2u Před 8 měsíci +2

    是啊,两岸同属一个中国,要想台湾独立成一个国家,两岸的民众都应该统一支持或反对,投票才行,如果只是台湾一味的搞边缘关系,那也是台湾的泡影。

  • @linclinc
    @linclinc Před 8 měsíci +1

    So informative! Well done!

  • @JoelBergmark
    @JoelBergmark Před 8 měsíci +1

    Good points. In Europe and other places we claim democratic principles, but in fact representative democracy has never been worse than now. Like Sweden joining Nato: 350 odd politicians made it happen not anyone else was allowed to vote, AND even if we would so now, the propaganda for the last 2 years for Nato being the only option has been soo strong so now even if we vote, the results would be the same. This is truly a good example of manufacturing consent.

  • @dz9446
    @dz9446 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Very well presented, clear and accurate!!! Thank you🎉

  • @EgbertLee-nw7rw
    @EgbertLee-nw7rw Před 8 měsíci +8

    小英不開心了 下次別讓這個啊豆仔進來啦

  • @DucaTech
    @DucaTech Před 8 měsíci +6

    I really miss the days of Ma In-Jeou

  • @cnwong5942
    @cnwong5942 Před 8 měsíci +11

    谢谢,如实表达两岸关系!!希望两岸能找到解决的方案!而不是不停的被操纵割裂!

  • @jenniferzhang864
    @jenniferzhang864 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Thank you Luke for make this video and did street interview. As a Chinese American, I am very concerned about the Taiwan and mainland situation. When we talk about the two areas, we would say Taiwan and mainland China, instead of Taiwan and China, since Taiwan is part of China.
    One thing I have to point out is that TSMC isn’t the reason for mainland China wanting to take Taiwan. Mainland China wanted to take back Taiwan since 1949, decades before Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing even existed. Taiwan is strategically very important to China’s security concerns, not only it’s so close to mainland. By taking back Taiwan, China can break through the first island chain built by the United States in the Pacific and reverse the series of strategic plans the United States is strengthening to contain China in the Pacific.
    In addition, China suffered 35M casualties during the 14-year (1931-1945) Sino-Japanese War and took back Taiwan. The Chinese government would be overthrown if it looses Taiwan.

  • @jackychen5578
    @jackychen5578 Před 8 měsíci +4

    其实对与中国来说,晶片问题并不是中国想要得到台湾的主要原因,甚至次要原因都不算是,只不过近些年被西方过分强调了,台湾问题主要还是领土和国家安全问题,另外一个就是中国复兴,最后一片未收回的领土,所以政府如果能做到收复台湾,解决台湾问题,基本上就是结束了国共内战,将会对共产党的统治也起到至关重要的作用,人民会相信共产党带领大家复兴中国,港澳台中,台湾是最重要的问题,也是收复难度最大的,谁能收复台湾,都将在近代中国史留下非常重要的一笔,不比1949年新中国建立逊色多少

    • @hoke3961
      @hoke3961 Před 8 měsíci

      完全正确,芯片问题连次要原因都不算。特别是到了今天,更有底气得出这样的结论,已经非常确定大陆具备了制造7nm芯片的能力,相信最近这两、三年就可以生产duv光刻机了(更先进的euv光刻机晚几年攻克,也不会造成太大的影响)。当然,取得现在这样的成绩,也有很多台湾同胞的帮助,比如说梁孟松。

  • @bunnyhop9465
    @bunnyhop9465 Před 8 měsíci +1

    谢谢你的分享!!!我是海外华人,十分認同你的看法!!!👍👍👍💪💪💪❤❤❤ 盼望祖国早日统一🎉🎉🎉

  • @politicaltroll8920
    @politicaltroll8920 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Taiwan Independence is not a dream. It is real and it is alive right now. The PRC has zero sovereignty over Taiwan whatsoever. Taiwan is de facto independent.

    • @Carbuncle0168
      @Carbuncle0168 Před 8 měsíci +1

      nice try trolling 😂

    • @politicaltroll8920
      @politicaltroll8920 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Carbuncle0168 every word is true

    • @Carbuncle0168
      @Carbuncle0168 Před 8 měsíci

      @@politicaltroll8920 sure. According to the Troll 🤣 any more rick roll "truths" you got? 🤣

  • @natn41r
    @natn41r Před 8 měsíci

    Wow, pretty brave of you to tackle this topic.

  • @user-uz2gl2zu2i
    @user-uz2gl2zu2i Před 8 měsíci +1

    非常的客觀 支持

  • @XavierHaggai-mh7km
    @XavierHaggai-mh7km Před 8 měsíci +5

    英國佬你把我台獨龜孫放在哪裡 XDDD

  • @user-iw8ns4wc7v
    @user-iw8ns4wc7v Před 8 měsíci +4

    👍👍👍

  • @devil-uu4gt
    @devil-uu4gt Před 8 měsíci +4

    well done!

  • @deworldzlastpunk666
    @deworldzlastpunk666 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Thank you for letting people know about the truth,love from China🇨🇳❤

  • @Hakunamatata707
    @Hakunamatata707 Před 8 měsíci +1

    哈哈说得好👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @horridohobbies
    @horridohobbies Před 8 měsíci +4

    Agree 100 percent. If you're going to hold a referendum, then it should include all the mainland Chinese. That's the "democratic" thing to do.

  • @巍巍大中华
    @巍巍大中华 Před 8 měsíci +1

    完全赞同你的观点,给你点赞👍🏻

  • @yu-jd5jg
    @yu-jd5jg Před 8 měsíci +13

    In the 20th century, China was very poor. Taiwan under the KMT was one of the 4 so-called Tigers and its GDP was about 40% of China. But now it is only about 4% of China's GDP. Most of Taiwan's Mainland Chinese descendants would not want independence

    • @user-wv1ex8bz6r
      @user-wv1ex8bz6r Před 8 měsíci +1

      now,4%

    • @yu-jd5jg
      @yu-jd5jg Před 8 měsíci

      Yes, it is 4%, and thanks for the correction@@user-wv1ex8bz6r

    • @shineluvslambiel
      @shineluvslambiel Před 8 měsíci

      95% if Taiwanese are mainland Chinese descendants.

  • @morningstararun6278
    @morningstararun6278 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Western Logic : Taiwanese are in desperate need of freedom. But the Scottish people are happy as ever.

  • @shiyubuze
    @shiyubuze Před 8 měsíci +2

    我觉得你的例子“英国脱欧”是一个很棒,一语道破。我感觉民进党没做好自己的工作,自己导致的结果却要人民和他们一起承担😢

  • @yongma4509
    @yongma4509 Před 8 měsíci

    you are indeed a true friend of China,good and fare video,thanks.

  • @AnbenK
    @AnbenK Před 8 měsíci +2

    It becomes less and less possible when China grows bigger and bigger

  • @HKChineseCanadian
    @HKChineseCanadian Před 8 měsíci +1

    I find that most native Taiwanese want independence. Most of the post civil war Chinese mainlanders who settled on Taiwan want a unified China.

  • @chjin1796
    @chjin1796 Před 8 měsíci

    Many Taiwanese people do not want reunification because they believe that there is no democracy and no voting on the mainland. But what they don’t know is that if the mainland implements democratic voting, then if a candidate wants to unify Taiwan by force, he will receive the greatest support.

  • @user-bk4on6fd8z
    @user-bk4on6fd8z Před 8 měsíci

    There is a house where your brothers and sisters all live. Now there is a room in the house that your brother says he has been living in and does not belong to this house. Because they have lived here for a long time. So it doesn't belong in this house. is it right?

  • @EvanAlick-kx3qb
    @EvanAlick-kx3qb Před 8 měsíci +12

    綠營側翼要湧入這個賬號出征了

  • @haha4581
    @haha4581 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is one of the best coverage I have seen, even better than bbc.

  • @kevinkoo9065
    @kevinkoo9065 Před 8 měsíci

    Simple explanation but well understood on the position of Taiwan as part of China. 💪

  • @constantineding8700
    @constantineding8700 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The US does have a big say in Taiwan presidential election. In fact, any candidate has to go to America first to get approval if they really want to win. Taiwanese get used to that long time ago and most of people are brainwashed to believe that this is just normal because the US is a big brother who will sitck out for Taiwan if the war between mainland and Taiwan breaks out.

  • @kxa1094
    @kxa1094 Před 8 měsíci +1

    China may have been divided dozens of times in history, but it will eventually be integrated into a whole. I don't think this time is an exception.

  • @lf3man05
    @lf3man05 Před 8 měsíci +2

    You don’t know much about Taiwan,
    Taiwan's media is also divided into two factions, those that are pro-China and those that are anti-China.
    Taiwanese can read information on either side and make their own judgments.
    Taiwanese people are not as "easily" misled as you think.

    • @fuselane
      @fuselane Před 7 měsíci

      But now 80% of traditional media are "green", which means they are anti-China. You may find that various opinions are abundant on CZcams, but for people aged 40 to 59 who embrace traditional media, it can be found that the DPP has the highest support.

    • @tigerfist2864
      @tigerfist2864 Před 6 měsíci

      u forget the part DPP shutdown all pro china media ,this why so hard find information from pro china in taiwan

  • @Earthman99999
    @Earthman99999 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Not only is "Taiwan independence" a dream... it is not reality. Taiwan has historically always been a part of China for centuries. The United States even recognizes (at least on paper) that Taiwan is part of "One China" with their "Taiwan Relations Act".
    If the Americans feel that Taiwan should be independent.... then an even stronger case can be made for Hawaii independence from the US. Imagine how the US govt would feel if a foreign nation were to send delegates to Hawaii to meet with the Hawaiian Sovereignty groups there to discuss independence. I'm sure martial law would be declared on Hawaii.
    I'm 100% certain the American govt will never allow any type of independence for Hawaii.

    • @jaydee6268
      @jaydee6268 Před 8 měsíci

      Taiwan has never been a part of the PRC. At least we can agree more provinces in China should be like Taiwan.

    • @Earthman99999
      @Earthman99999 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jaydee6268 The People's Republic of China is the successor to The Kingdom of China (or Imperial China or China)... and Taiwan was and still is a part of it.
      As I said... even the United States of America's "Taiwan Relations Act" acknowledges in plain English that Taiwan is part of China.

    • @xucg
      @xucg Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@jaydee6268 She also never belonged to the United States until Hawaii was annexed to it.

  • @rockywei2091
    @rockywei2091 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Well the root cause of Taiwan issue is the US weapon manufacturers interest: can you find a better customer than TW? First , it is easy to make up such an enemy like China; Second, every body knows that the war won’t happen at all so the customer won’t find a chance to complain the product quality; thirdly, every candidate of TW election is competing by telling how nice the future customer will be; last but not least, there are so many official excuses to guarantee only the most profitable junks can dump to the customer. As you can see, how much are the sellers working hard to maintain the current status because they all know if the real war takes place, their value custom will surrender at day 1 and there won’t be any transaction after that! Game over!

  • @jaliyajamole2484
    @jaliyajamole2484 Před 8 měsíci +5

    請每一個和中國建立外交關係國家的公民,遵守和中國建交時簽署的“尊重中華人民共和國關於台灣的領土主張”的相關文件,這是中國與其他國家建交的前提

    • @timsecond
      @timsecond Před 8 měsíci

      那先和美国断交了呗

  • @senhandy9754
    @senhandy9754 Před 8 měsíci

    统一和独立都不是一件容易得事情,希望台湾人民能幸福的生活

  • @cinnamomumcamphora8943
    @cinnamomumcamphora8943 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

  • @mikejung2115
    @mikejung2115 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I absolutely agree. It's not as simple as "let the people decide".
    It's not hard to foresee the US would exploit this and implement nuclear weapons and military bases on TW. TW would be militarily occupied , and hence a US vassal with no true sovereignty. Simply put, it's not about democracy and other rhetoric. See Japan and the Plaza Accord of 1985, and the Japanese economy since then.
    China must check US hegemony on TW. China cannot allow this to happen as this would amount to huge impact on the lives of Chinese people all over the world.

  • @jsc3417
    @jsc3417 Před 8 měsíci +2

    it's not a dream, it's a nightmare.

  • @bbyl1485
    @bbyl1485 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Self determination only applied to a colony. Taiwan is not a colony, it is part of China.

  • @Anonymous------
    @Anonymous------ Před 8 měsíci +1

    USA government says no to Native American independence, despite Native Americans have been in America for at least 10,000 years, whereas USA has been only less than a few hundred years.
    And there's Hawaii, a small island group in Polynesia, many thoudsand miles or km away from and not any part of America continent. Despite Hawaii is being illegally ocuppied by USA, the USA government doesn't allow independence for Hawaii and its indigenous Polynesian people.

  • @sophiehuang629
    @sophiehuang629 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Finally there is somebody speaks out the truth and reality about the situation! Thanks!!

  • @bruceliu8542
    @bruceliu8542 Před 7 měsíci +1

    如果国家的概念定义在于联合国是否承认,那巴勒斯坦,库克群岛是不是国家?这俩联合国不承认,但是中国承认。如果国家的概念定义在于是否被大多数国家承认,那科索沃被超半数的联合国会员承认,是不是国家?如果不看官方外交层面,一个中华民国国籍的人拿着一本Roc of China能不能免签171个国家?请问从政治实体的角度来看,他属于哪个国家?是不是意味着这171个国家承认他是ROC人而不是PRC人?如果说ROC和PRC都是一个中国,那南朝鲜和北朝鲜是不是一个朝鲜?

  • @cinnamomumcamphora8943
    @cinnamomumcamphora8943 Před 8 měsíci

    Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @rambuntjajo1181
    @rambuntjajo1181 Před 7 měsíci

    you are a very wise young guy❤

  • @WU-ee3vs
    @WU-ee3vs Před 8 měsíci +3

    voting becomes symbol of democracy, thats the fundamental problem.

    • @bbyl1485
      @bbyl1485 Před 8 měsíci

      Ukraine is also a model of democracy until it became a useless burden. Then it becomes into a corrupted oligarchy country.

  • @itsme2be
    @itsme2be Před 8 měsíci

    There can be no unilateral referendum. The sovereignty of Taiwan belongs to the Chinese nation of 1.4 billion people.

  • @kenchan8099
    @kenchan8099 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Your so rare! Sadly, nowadays right things are so hard to gain people's attention. Democracy needs hatred.

    • @Unnamed7964
      @Unnamed7964 Před 8 měsíci

      Democracy is indeed flawed but it's the least immoral philosophy of governance that we have. Authoritarianism is way worse, entities with centralised powers by definition face no accountability and aren't incentivized to manage society efficiently. Self preservation and self interest is what comes first for those who have all branches of power (executive, legislative and especially judiciary). You need those powers democratically divided to manage society effectively. China's single party has control over all three branches of power. Even with elections, the people's republic of China, in its current form, is systematically undemocratic and is entirely owned by the ccp. Ccp has complete authority under every aspect over China. The ccp won't critique itself, disagree with itself and punish it self, the ccp has no accountability. Political menaces like the ccp should not be endorsed, sponsored or promoted. China needs major political reform.

  • @LesleyDeQuincey-bf1dz
    @LesleyDeQuincey-bf1dz Před 8 měsíci +10

    本來就是自娛自樂啊 在那邊喊獨立 有人跟你建立外交關係嗎

    • @fziyi
      @fziyi Před 8 měsíci +1

      不好意思,8年中又斷交了‘’許多‘’國家😅!

    • @bruceliu8542
      @bruceliu8542 Před 7 měsíci

      但是中华民国护照免签171个国家

  • @beanextreme5461
    @beanextreme5461 Před 8 měsíci

    真心希望大家和谐相处,求同存异。不希望任何形式的敌对甚至战争发生

  • @ZLL668
    @ZLL668 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Love it. Finally someone is speaking the truth.

  • @user-lc3fd1yv4u
    @user-lc3fd1yv4u Před 8 měsíci +1

    First Taiwan is not our name of country!
    The Republic of China has existed over 112 years and march toward 113 years!

  • @bernardfong1019
    @bernardfong1019 Před 8 měsíci

    Referendum for all 1.4 billion Chinese, those in Taiwan included.

  • @ricotheman8139
    @ricotheman8139 Před 8 měsíci

    Very logical.

  • @mengliang9310
    @mengliang9310 Před 8 měsíci

    thanks for your vedio, but I think most of social media wont report like this

  • @TAIWANPARTOFCHINA
    @TAIWANPARTOFCHINA Před 8 měsíci +1

    FRIENDLY REMINDER SOUTH CHINA SEA IS PART OF CHINA 🥰 🇨🇳 🇨🇳

  • @jmjt3709
    @jmjt3709 Před 8 měsíci +3

    As an added point, there's a lot of exploitable elements in the English language when it comes to the word, "Chinese". Unlike say, "being Jewish" is different from "being Israeli". There are overlaps in identity there, but there is also an understood difference. In the case of "Chinese", the English word does not distinguish being "中“ (中国 China nationality-wise) and being ”华"(ethnic lineage-wise). This ambiguity is not captured in English, and very much used to inconsistently to stir tension.
    That said, for an inheritor of the political legacy of the 中华民国 Republic of China (both 中 and 华), that saw through the succession of the last dynastic age of China, as well as the repulsion of the Japanese invasion (WW2), for such an inheritor to assert they are neither 中 nor 华 to me, is a sad matter. Of course there's nothing wrong if as an individual human being, the person feels the American way of life fits them better and they would thrive much better there -- I'm all for that person pursuing their American dream. Leave and go be a part of that instead, but I wish they wouldn't turn around and hate and spread that hate.

    • @harisadu8998
      @harisadu8998 Před 8 měsíci

      The Taiwanese are China simply because they say they are. However, in this discussion, it is not helpful to refer to the Taiwanese as 中國人 because they aren't. They are 台灣人. But the Taiwanese are 華人 as are all Chinese people. 華人 refers to ethnic Chinese. Otherwise the majority of Singaporeans are also 中國人 and not 新加坡人.

    • @Haijwsyz51846
      @Haijwsyz51846 Před 8 měsíci

      @@harisadu8998Taiwan is part of China. Singapore is not part of China. Get the difference? When you say Taiwanese, it does not exclude them as Chinese nationals because Taiwan is part of China. Just like saying Texans or Californians does not mean they are not Americans.

    • @owenmo4823
      @owenmo4823 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@harisadu8998One thing above all, Taiwan was never recognized as a country, but a province of China.

    • @harisadu8998
      @harisadu8998 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@owenmo4823 Yes and importantly so, Taiwan even today says it is just a province of China. They are Taiwan Province, Republic of China. And not only that, they also have a Fujian Province, Republic of China of which they control Kinmen and Matsu. PRC controls the rest.

  • @Fei_Ge
    @Fei_Ge Před 8 měsíci

    说的太对了